1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off tears down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: are satisfied with t is not to be president of 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the United States, take it to a bank. Together, we 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: will make America great again. It's what you've been waiting 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: for all day. Buck Sexton with America now joined the 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: conversation called buck toll free at eight four four nine 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to eight 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: to five the future of talk radio. Buck Sexton team, 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hunt Buck Sexton Show is on. 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. Eight four four to 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: eight to five, eight four four nine hundred buck. Much 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: to discuss. We will dive right into the North Korean 15 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: intercontinental ballistic missile launch just occurred in the last twelve 16 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: hours or so. We'll talk about what that means. Things 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: are going to get worse with North Korea. I've been 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: telling you for a long time. I know Trump takes 19 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: the threat very seriously. I know his literally his top 20 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: people are on at Madison Company. But this is a 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: this is a problem set that has no never mind, 22 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: no good solutions. I'm not sure it has any solutions 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: worthy of the name right now. We need to get 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: very creative. Being tough alone may not be enough. There 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: has to be new thinking, but we'll get there a 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: little later on. We'll also talk about an update on 27 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: the Hillary email investigation, just because there's some worthwhile stuff 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: to talk about there. I know that's an old story, 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: but there are some new bits of it to work in, 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. The media is all upset 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: about Trump. There's nothing new, but we'll talk about that too, 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: because they're acting like, oh Trump's Trump criticizes them and 33 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: that makes him an authoritarian. Now. Media types are a 34 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: very sensitive bunch. Um. I keep finding this to be 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the case, and I think that so many of them have, 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: for especially those who come out of the journalism schools. 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: They go to a j school afterwards and they come 38 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: out and they've been so focused on being the focus 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: for such a large portion of their adult lives that 40 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: I think there's often with the with the mainstream media left, 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: there's just a lack of perspective. They do think they're 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: so much more important and so much more irreplaceable than 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: they really are. But some of them we need to 44 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: bring out the AMBULANCEE wow. That will happen later on. 45 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: We will talk about that. Biggest news item today though, 46 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: other than the North Korea launch in the national security side, 47 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: is a verdict in the h of the mastermind Abu 48 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Katala guilty on three of eighteen counts. He's the mastermind 49 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: of the Benghazi attack that killed for Americans serving their 50 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: country in Libya. We will get into that discussion coming 51 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: up in a bit, and I believe we will actually 52 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: have UM. We we should have Chris Pronto joining us 53 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: to give his thoughts on it. Tonto from thirteen hours. 54 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're all quite familiar with them, so we're 55 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: hoping he'll join us in just a bit to talk 56 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: about that. But Trump had quite a press conference today. 57 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: I guess it was with the press pool, which is 58 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: different then if he gave a formal press conference. Idea, 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: there's some different process where he does it and then 60 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: it's broadcast out for all of us to see. UM. 61 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: But but the big issue today for the press conference, 62 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: other than than the missile launch with North Korea, which 63 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: we will spend some time on in detail, is taxes. 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: Now I don't know I don't know how interested you 65 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: are in the back and forth over over the tax fight. 66 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Right now, here's what's happening on a political level. It's 67 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: tough to get two worked up about the specifics of 68 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: any tax bill because we don't know what's going to 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: come out of the Conference committee. Yet the House has 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: one version, the Senate has another, and not even clear 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna make it through the Senate. I should note 72 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: it could all come down to Senator McCain. And let 73 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: me tell you, if Senator McCain has yet another opportunity 74 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: to just do a drop kick into the gut of 75 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: the GOP agenda, he'll do it. He'll do it. I'm 76 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm quite confident that will happen, never mind a few 77 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: of the other senators who clearly have a a strange 78 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: relationship with this White House. So will it make it 79 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: over the fifty threshold? Here's a a guess on that, 80 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: A prediction, I should say, here's a prediction. I believe 81 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that it will be fifty fifty, and then the Vice 82 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: President will have to be the deciding vote. That's my guest. 83 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, who knows, But to get through 84 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: the Senate, I'm seeing it I'm seeing a fifty fifty 85 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: tie with the Vice president, um, the one who has 86 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: to break it, Mike Pence coming in to save the day. 87 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Perhaps that that's just I just got a feeling one 88 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: of my basing that on. I don't know, you know, 89 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: am I running all my sources around Capitol Hill trying 90 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: to figure this out? Nope, that's just my gut. That's 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: what my gut tells me. But here's an even more 92 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: confident prediction I can make for all of you right 93 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: now now. I think that the debt ceiling, which is 94 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: up for renewal. Right, there's all, Oh yeah, that Tyrone's 95 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: pointing to this guy. That is correct, There's all. This 96 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: is the most boring kabuki theater in American politics. This 97 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: is the most worthless waste of time political discussion we 98 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: can have at this point, because we all know, we 99 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: all know. It doesn't mean Trump, I know is saying 100 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: they'll blame the Democrats, and maybe Trump, if it were 101 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: just up to him, would but the GOP Congress will cave. 102 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: Democrats will demagogue the issue. They're gonna say, what about 103 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: student loans and and food for children in schools and 104 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: old people who need medical care and the and you know, 105 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: the military and all this stuff that none of that 106 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: would be defunded, None of that would be defunded. Yet 107 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: they would say that it is. And they'd say that, 108 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, Republicans are stealing food out of the mouths 109 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: of babies and letting old people go without their you know, 110 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: their their insulin or they're there whatever it is that 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: they need. Right, That's that's gonna be the story. And 112 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: do you think this Congress that couldn't even figure out 113 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: an Obamacare adjustment. That's what it was. Was not repealing 114 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: a place. It was an adjustment, A good one, fine, 115 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: but an adjustment. Nonetheless, you think they're really gonna want 116 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: to go to town and get serious on the death ceiling? 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: No way, no way. So I just I wish they'd 118 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: stop wasting our time. I know that there's plenty of 119 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: people that are gonna say no buck this time. They're serious. 120 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: And and maybe right now, optimism for the Republican Party 121 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: cells I don't know, maybe people want to hear optimism. 122 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: I just try to tell you what I think is 123 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: the truth. I don't like the just just go with 124 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: what you think folks want to hear. And I don't 125 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: think the GOP Congress is going to do anything on 126 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: the death ceiling other than raise it. That's right, they'll 127 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: raise it. They're talking about DOCCA, deferred actions for child arrivals, 128 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: are talking about concessions that they would want to extract 129 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: from Democrats in exchange for But we have been to 130 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: this dance so many times before. Same music is playing, 131 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: same dance floors out there. This will not change. This 132 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: will not be different no way, shape or form. Do 133 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: I see this being anything other than what has been 134 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the past, that there will be a dead seiler. They'll 135 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: just they the metaphor is useful it they kick the 136 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: can down the road. That is what will happen. So 137 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know how much time there is suspending 138 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the death ceiling. And then just to tell you, don't 139 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: listen to all this Congress and oh no, the Dutch 140 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: it's bluster, it's nonsense. Because with the media still has 141 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: some powers that is able to utilize to the benefit 142 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: of Democrats, and one of them is that a government 143 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: shut in a government shutdown situation, Republicans will be blamed, 144 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: especially with this administration with a majority in Congress. Right, 145 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans will be blamed if it's the Democrats who 146 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: refuse to go along because they are holding the whole 147 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: budget hostage. Remember it was all about feeding kids and 148 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: medicine for old people and funding our military. That all 149 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: stops being the narrative the moment that the Democrats say, hey, 150 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: you gotta raise the dead ceiling for us, or else 151 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta raise the dead ceiling for us, 152 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: and that's it, and it's brinksmanship that they will win. 153 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna say that, you know any doca anything like that. Nope, 154 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: they take the maximum position and they win time and 155 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: time again. So I know it's it's frustrating for you, 156 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: it's frustrating for me. That's just the way it's gonna be. 157 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Onto taxes, though Trump says it's gonna get past that. Uh. 158 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: We're in a very good position in terms of the 159 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: meeting we just had over at the Capitol with the 160 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Republican senators. It was outstanding. I think we have tremendous support. 161 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I was just informed by Mitch that we had had 162 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: a unanimous vote from the Republican side. At least we 163 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: had a unanimous vote on the text bill and it 164 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: goes now the next step and I think we're gonna 165 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: get it passed. I think it's going to pass, and 166 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be very popular. It's gonna have lots of 167 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: adjustments before it ends, but the end result would be 168 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: a very, very massive, the largest in the history of 169 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: our country, tax cut, and lots of good things are 170 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: going to happen, including the bringing back to our country 171 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: of it probably will end up being over four trillion 172 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: dollars money offshore that's staggnedant that companies and they're just 173 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: not able to bring it back. So I think it's 174 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: going to be a number over four trillion dollars. Okay, 175 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: we will see. Look, the president's role in all this 176 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: is to be a dealmaker, right that this should be 177 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: the president's sweet spot, and also a part of that 178 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: is selling it, so he has to be optimistic. I 179 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: do not I do not criticize him for that. He's 180 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: got to and can you imagine the presidence. Yeah, it's 181 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: not gonna get done. Sorry, I'm not gonna happen this 182 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: time around. No, I don't. I don't think that would 183 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: be wise. I don't think that would be appropriate under 184 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: the circumstance. I think the president has to see this 185 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: as a glass more than half full. Other otherwise the 186 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Congress than there, then we know there's no chance. Right 187 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: then there's no chance at alls. Oh and I should 188 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: note that probably the most memorable part of the whole 189 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: press conference was, in fact the absence of a couple 190 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: of folks are supposed to be there, Nancy Pelosi and 191 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. They were no shows, and this I believe 192 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: could come back to to haunt the Democrats. This was 193 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a very powerful moment of dicks. You got the President 194 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: United States speaking to assorted reporters making important important case 195 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: about UH policy and taxes and the budget. And this 196 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: is the this is the meat and potatoes of what 197 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: the federal government should be doing, figuring out the budgets 198 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: and figuring out what the tax code is, and and 199 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: handling some other issues as part of that. Maybe obamacarel 200 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: though maybe not. You know, they may get rid of 201 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: the mandate, that may not. And then DACA, will they 202 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: figure out the first action for childhood arrivals. But those 203 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: chairs were empty. Pelosi and Schumer ghosted this meeting, and 204 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan, who was there, had this to say about it. 205 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: I'll just briefly say I think it's regrettable that our 206 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Democratic count leagues and the leadership chose not to join 207 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: us today for a bill to become a law. Congress 208 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: has just pass a bill and the President signs a bill. 209 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: That means Congress in the White House always negotiates legislation. 210 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: We have important work to do, we have being dead 211 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: money to meet, we have a military in need of 212 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: our support, and that work needs to happen now, and 213 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's very regrettable that our Democratic colleges 214 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: and leadership chose to not participate, because we have to 215 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: negotiate these bills to get this work done for the 216 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: people who represented and especially to help our military with 217 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: these difficult situations we have. And I just hope that 218 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: our friends in leadership on the other side of the 219 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: aisle will choose to participate so we get people's work 220 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: doing and the scene as you saw it if you 221 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: had a chance to, which probably a lot of your 222 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: working or do another state. A lot of you are 223 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: probably just living your lives and did not decide to 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: watch the press conference. But in case you caught some 225 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: of it, and I tweeted out a still shot of it. 226 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: They they focused it on the president and you can 227 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: see the two empty chairs, and they had the name 228 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: placards Pelosi and Schumer out in front of the empty chairs. 229 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: It was a great visual look. Trump was from an 230 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: entertainment in reality TV background. He knows you couldn't watch 231 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: that without thinking Pelosi and Schumer huh, no shows. And 232 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: that's really on policy. What we've seen from Democrats all year. 233 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: They are policy. The Democrats are policy. No shows. They 234 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: they don't There's nothing that Trump can do. There's nothing 235 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Trump can offer them that they will want to go 236 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: along with because they are hashtag resistance. They won't get 237 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: any votes, any votes at all on the tax package 238 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: from Democrats. That's my that's my belief. Not in the Senate, 239 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: maybe at the House. Is unlikely though, because opposition is 240 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: the name of the game for them. It's not about 241 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: making things better for the American people, not about helping 242 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: American businesses, not about lessening the burden on so many Americans. 243 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: All right, Um, do you think I'm being a little 244 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: too cynical on the whole debt ceiling thing or on taxes? 245 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: Curious to know what you think, and also how much 246 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: do you care about the tax cuts if Obamacare mandate 247 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: still stays in place. You know, maybe you'll get a 248 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: thousand bucks back at tax time, but you'll pay more 249 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: for your premiums a month. You know. I'm just not 250 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: sure it's as exciting that some people want to believe 251 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: it is. But you know, I'm in kind of a 252 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: mood today. Eight four four eight to five, eight four four, 253 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Light them up. We'll be right back with that being 254 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: said Chuck Schumer, and then she Pelosi did not show 255 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: up for a meeting today. I'm not really that surprise. 256 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: We have a lot of differences that week on crime, 257 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: that week on illegal immigration. They want the illegal folks 258 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: have come pouring into our border and a lot of 259 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: problems are being caused to although we've stopped it to 260 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: a large extent as much as you can without the wall, 261 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: which we're going to get. They before this meeting and 262 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: before this missile launch, they've been weak on military in 263 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: terms of spending. They're very hard to get familitary. They 264 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: wanted for a lot of other things, but the military 265 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: is always secondary to them. The military, to me is 266 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: number one. We won't be here without our powerful military, 267 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and we're building it up stronger, bigger, better than ever before. 268 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: In general, managers can testify to that and the other thing. 269 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: They want tax increases and we want major text decreases. 270 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: So they decided not to show up. They've been all 271 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: talk and they've been no action, and now it's even worse. 272 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: And now it's not even talk. So they're not showing 273 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: up for the meeting. Not even no action, but no shows. 274 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Nancy Polosian truck Schumer would not show up. Look, it 275 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: is a slap in the face to the administration. I 276 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: think there's no question about that. Think about all the 277 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: meetings during the Bush era that President Bush went into 278 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: with Nancy Pelosi and Schumer and Democrats in Congress, and 279 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: they go from calling them like war criminals over morning 280 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: coffee on the TV to then calling him a were 281 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: criminal to them they're trying to talk about, you know, 282 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: No Child Left Behind or Medicare party or whatever it was, 283 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: those security reform um. You know, you'd have meetings with them, 284 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: he would talk to them at least. Meanwhile, they won't 285 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: even go and talk. But Schomer's talking bipartisanship. I mean, 286 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: this guy is is such a dishonest and and unctious character. 287 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: By partisanship and compromise, Mr President are very possible on 288 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: tax or form. It's an issue crying out for a 289 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: bipartisan solution. There are a lot of areas we agree. 290 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: We have to work to find a middle ground that's 291 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: acceptable to both parties. I dare say it would be 292 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: a better bill for the American middle class than the 293 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: one we're looking at right now. Oh yes, the middle class. 294 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Democrats love the middle class so much. That's why they 295 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: gave them the enormous tax hike of Obamacare. Remember, only 296 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: only allowed only constitutional according to a wrong Supreme Court 297 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: because it was a tax, and it was a considerable one. 298 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: It was a whole bunch of taxes, that is what 299 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Obamacare was. And now you have Schumer saying there's gonna 300 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: have to be a bipartisan solution here. Look, I'm I'm 301 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: worried everybody because there there are some weak need Republicans 302 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: already in the Senate, and this whole discussion over over 303 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: tax reform right now is getting so complicated and discombobulated 304 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways that people are just gonna 305 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: start tuning out and the swamp is just gonna do 306 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: it's swampy thing. D C is, which is a swamp 307 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: as we know for those of you who have lived there. 308 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: Uh d C is so good at exhausting us with 309 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: all of the back and forth and the horse race stuff, 310 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: and people are all talking about, oh yeah, they gotta 311 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: probably has gotta put points on the board. And this 312 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: tax bill be great. No, it's terrible. It's good for 313 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: middle class, it's bad for middle class. How can anyone 314 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: even know? I mean, I got ten different fact checkers 315 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: out there on this tax bill. They'll give me ten 316 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: different answers to every question I can think of. So 317 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: how excited can we really be? I mean, if you 318 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: just want to view this in the perspective of the 319 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: administration needs to win, Okay, but I wouldn't bet the 320 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: farm that this Republican Congress is gonna get it done. 321 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I'll be back. I have to think 322 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of funny at some point that you 323 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: have so many, so many journalists who really must buy 324 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: into their own press releases about how they're just they're 325 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: just journalists, right, that nothing really matters. You have Stephanie 326 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Rule over at MSNBC, who's upset because nobody will let 327 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: nobody from the White House. We'll talk to her about 328 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: tax reform. It has been one hundred and fifty two 329 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: days since the White House has agreed to let me 330 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: interview someone from the White House who's working on tax reform. 331 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Fifty two days ago, I interviewed Gary Cone. Since then, 332 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: when the White House has been on this media tour, 333 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: they have refused to give me a guest. Who's one 334 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: of the architects of this bill. I mean, you know tough. 335 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: MSNBC had like its own entrance for the Obama White House. 336 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: Now you got a Republican in there. I just and 337 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of news outlets. This is a this 338 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: is a very messy and unfair world of media, and 339 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: all this complaining and whining about access and a mean administration, 340 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's like they just don't pay attention. 341 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I want to know we will get 342 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: in a North Korea in detail in the next hour. 343 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: I want to spend most of the next hour on 344 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: the North Korea mis a law. This is a big deal. 345 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: And I would just say, and Tyrone was reminded me 346 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: of the break I've been telling you all along. I 347 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: like that Trump has made this a front and center issue. 348 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: What we're doing is not enough. I don't know what 349 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: is enough. I'm not pretending to have the answer. I 350 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: just know that what we are doing is not the answer. 351 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: As I have been saying, sanctioning a country like North 352 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: Korea is not as effective as we would like to 353 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: believe it is. The The history of sanctions as a 354 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: as a tool of international relations and and and pressure 355 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: in diplomacy is not encouraging if you want to see 356 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: what the likelihood is of success here. So all right, 357 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: there's there's that. But on taxes, as I've been telling you, 358 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: this is back to that for a moment. Like I said, 359 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: North Korea next hour, missile launch, I CBM, this is 360 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: a big deal. They're saying it's the furthest. I believe 361 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: Madis has said this is the furthest they have. Yeah, 362 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: when higher than anything they've they've done before. High in 363 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: this guy, this miss launched it. We'll get into it, um. 364 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: But you're hearing a lot of talking about taxes. I 365 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: just want to know what the GLP thinks they're gonna 366 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: tell us if we go off into our Christmas break 367 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: respective you know, everyone goes off on their holiday and 368 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: nothing has passed. I know they're going to tell us 369 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: that Oh, well, we'll get to it right away when 370 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: we come back. But what are we what do we 371 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: vote for? Again? What was this whole election about so far? 372 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, it's it's an It's interesting, isn't it? 373 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: That Trump was the political novice. Trump was the guy 374 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: without a political resume. And if you're looking at positive action, 375 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: forget about the personalities and the rhetoric in the tone. 376 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: If you're looking at positive results from the perspective of 377 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: a constitutional conservative, you can talk about things that Trump 378 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: has done. I know they're different branches of government. He 379 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: has different powers than the Congress. But you can point 380 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: to things that Trump has done and say, well, that's good. Yeah, 381 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorst's good, Other federal judges good, 382 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: enormous pullback in regulation from within the executive branch of good. 383 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: There are there are are tangible, real things that President 384 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Trump has accomplished. And now I ask you to do 385 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: the same exercise for me with Paul Ryan and Mitch 386 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: McConnell and the in the House and the Senate, respectively. 387 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: What what have you got for me? Well, what's the 388 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, Mitch McConnell, are you know, no, nothing, There's 389 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: nothing In fact, you could ask what exactly, how is 390 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: the country better off because of congressional action over the 391 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: last nine months or so or no, over let's say, yeah, 392 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: let's say the last nine months. Well, what comes to mind. 393 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure we could find some stuff, but it's hard. 394 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: Because of the sweeping immigration reform bill, Nope, that didn't happen. 395 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: Because of the massive increase in border security and and 396 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: funding for a border wall, Nope, that didn't happen. The 397 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: repeal and replace him of Obamacare, we know that didn't happen. 398 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: So I would just like, I would just like to 399 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: put it in in the proper context. I would like 400 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: to manage our expectations going forward. Here you see the 401 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: problem with many members of the GOP when it comes 402 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: to the conservative agenda is that they don't actually have 403 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: a conservative agenda. They like to say they do because 404 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: they want to get elected and they need votes from 405 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: people who want to vote for conservatism. But when it 406 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: comes to actually casting votes and making tough calls, they 407 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: want to make sure they keep the donor class happy. 408 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: They want to make sure that the the interests, business 409 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: and otherwise that right checks to keep them to keep 410 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: their campaign going. The next time around to keep them 411 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: in office. They have a war chest to beat their rivals. 412 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: That is um that is the primary consideration for them. 413 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: It's look, it's it's disconcerting. I'm hoping they proved me wrong. 414 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: Maybe Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan pull off some amazing 415 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: stuff here. Maybe I am just being a little a 416 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: little sour about this today, But I would ask you 417 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: how many times have I been wrong about Congress so 418 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: far this year? Everybody? How many times have I been like, Yeah, 419 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna get this done and then they didn't. Mm hmmm. 420 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, look at you know, look at the record. 421 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: Right it's and I'm not I'm not thinking I'm gonna 422 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: be wrong on this one either. But I want to 423 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: talk to you about this verdict about the Benghazi mastermind. 424 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: I tell you all about that when we come back. 425 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Stay with me, Welcome back, team. There is a verdict 426 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: in now um US jury found Ahmed Abu Khatala guilty 427 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: on four of eighteen charges related to his role in 428 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: the twelve terrorist attack on a US on two US 429 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: compounds in Benghazi, Libya, that killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens 430 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: and three Americans serving their country. Uh, there were guilty 431 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: counts that could lead to ten to sixty years in 432 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: prison for Kaitala. But what do we think about this 433 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: and what does it all mean? We've got Chris Tonto 434 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Pironto on the line to weigh in, and he's a 435 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: former Army ranger, but he was there. He was part 436 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: of the Annex security team that responded to the terrorist 437 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: attack on the Special Mission compound in Benghazi, Libya, on 438 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: September eleven. Chris, great to have you. Thank you for 439 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: making the time. Of course I could talk to you 440 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Gamebouck a long time. I'm glad you're doing well. Brother, 441 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend you too, so so tell me, 442 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: you know what, what do you think about this? Do 443 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you feel I saw the CEI director said, he called 444 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: it measure, a measure of justice. Clearly not thrilled with 445 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: what what came down as the verge here? What do 446 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: you think? You know? I I don't see it in 447 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: is any justice at all? And to be honest with you, 448 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know why we had a terrorists being 449 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: tried in a criminal court. Since when do terrorists deserve 450 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: any sort of due process? Um, it's really just a mockery, 451 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: mockery of of everything that that we're serving for. We're 452 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: fighting terrorists, and I'm sure right now all the terrorists 453 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: are over there thinking, gosh, he's nice Americans. I think 454 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: we're just gonna not attack anymore because, you know what, 455 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: They're not going to do anything to us anyway, because 456 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: they're so kind of harder than empathetic. All this did 457 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: is to show weakness as usual. And and by doing 458 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: a criminal trial for a terrorists, um, it's almost like 459 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: it's a bad movie. Brother, It's like satirical and I'm 460 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: not obviously you can tell I'm not real happy with Yeah, 461 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: be nice about it. I'm nice about it. That's ridiculous. 462 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: I look, he wasn't found guilty of murder. He was 463 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: found guilty. I've got the charges right here. Abucatala has 464 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: found out the conspiracy to provide material support and resources 465 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: the terrorists resulting in death, using, carrying, brandishing, and discharging 466 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: a firearm during a crime of violence. I mean that 467 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: sounds like he robbed the Seven eleven and maliciously destroying 468 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: and injuring dwellings and property and placing lives in jeopardy 469 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: in the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Look their 470 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: federal crimes. And you and I both know Chris said, really, 471 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: any federal crime at the at the felony level, you 472 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: can go to prison for quite a while. But this 473 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: guy is not being held to account. I mean the 474 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: death penalty is off the table. He is not being 475 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: held to account for murder. How do you how do 476 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: you plan the how do you help a plan the 477 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: attack or assisting the planning? You you are there, you 478 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: are helping kill Americans and then you're sounding not guilty 479 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: of murder and you're discharging weapons. How does god It's 480 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: it's a complete mockery. It was a political side show 481 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: from the beginning. That's why I didn't take part of 482 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't take part in the in the 483 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: trial because I said, I said, this is ridiculous. I'm 484 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: not gonna go on trial and be part of the 485 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: circus show for a terrorist that either it needs to 486 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: be in GETMO and needs to be interrogated or just 487 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: put to death. And that's how the military tribunal and 488 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: or GITMO, right, that's that would have been your preferred 489 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: or or the extraction team just putting a bullet in him. 490 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: That would have been actually, that would have been paramount 491 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: that the seal team were Delta or the rangers that 492 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: went there and got him put a bullet in him. 493 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: And if that offends people out there, you know what, 494 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: go fight terrorists and then tell me what you think 495 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: about it after. But that's honestly, that's what should have happened. 496 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Chris Tonto Pronto Formula, our former Army 497 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: ranger and a member of the Annex security team that 498 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: was there that night in Benghazi on September eleven. Uh, Chris, 499 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: tell me about the There's another part of this, right. 500 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: I know that we're focused right now on the criminal 501 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: trial of the terrorists who was captured. It took quite 502 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: a while to get him, by the way, as you know. 503 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: But then there's also there's so there's the accountability for 504 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: the terrorists, which is paramount, but then there's also the 505 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: issue of accountability from within the chain of command for 506 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: those who are in charge that night, notably the commander 507 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: in chief in twelve Barack Obama and the Secretary of 508 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: State Hillary Clinton. UM. There will be no justice when 509 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: it comes to that, will there, Chris? I think we 510 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: should all just be prepared for that we should be 511 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: prepared for. That doesn't mean we shouldn't stop fighting for 512 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: starting fighting for the justice. Don't don't ever give up, 513 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: don't ever quit. Uh. Karma always finds a way of 514 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: rearing its head and and and actually bringing people accountable 515 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: if you stick with it. Um, Hillary, she is a sponsible. 516 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: She needs to be held accountable. And she hit information 517 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: and she broke classified information rules and laws and national 518 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: security laws. And I'm not going to stop fighting for 519 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: justice to come and bring her in. Uh. Same with Obama. 520 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: But it doesn't look good, no, because we're in a 521 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: political world and end up in the Beltway there there 522 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: helped do a different standard. But we still have to 523 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: keep pushing for for justice for my teammates that died 524 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the sacrifice of Sell then Ambassador Stevens and Shawn Smith, 525 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: because right now they're not getting the justice that they 526 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: deserve for being out there and being patriots and fighting 527 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: for this country. They're not And Tonto I I read 528 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: earlier today, we're actually gonna be talking about later in 529 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: the show about how the former Intelligence Community Inspector General 530 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: that the legal guy who's supposed to be keeping an 531 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: eye and all the legalities. When the i C says 532 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: that what was in Hillary's email, he used terms like 533 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: endangered lives, endangered sources. So and I'm somebody coming from 534 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: my side of the analytics side of it, I'm like, well, 535 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm reading between the lines, but I know what that means, 536 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: and that means that there were some really egregious stuff 537 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: in her emails. You know, I can't really get into 538 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: on air what I would think it might be, but 539 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: of course I have my thoughts on it. I think 540 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: it's worse. The point is that I think it's worse 541 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: than even a vast majority of the American people know 542 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: because they have not been allowed to know. And I 543 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: would also note that from from your perspective, and I'm 544 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: trying to talk around the issue, and Chris, you know 545 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: how it is, but yeah, from your perspective, there's still 546 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: stuff about BEng Ghazi that I know we can't talk about, 547 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: and I know people who know exactly what was going 548 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: on that night. I feel like if the American people 549 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: knew the full truth, they would even be more angry. 550 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: And and that's that's the double standard, because of people 551 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: like yourself, for myself, and hey, I got this, everybody 552 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: out there. I got fired when we told the truth. 553 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I lost all my security clearances for doing the right thing. 554 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Where Hillary Clinton violated NASA security, gave up class of information, 555 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: gave time and place predictable predictability of the ambassdor so 556 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: they knew where to attack in also, and we also 557 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: possibly possibly possibly helped Paris to overthrow Facade. Did all that, 558 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and here we are, and I'm the one that was 559 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: being punished. And you know, hey, that's fine. I knew 560 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: that was gonna happen when told the truth because it's 561 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: the belt Way again. But you're seeing politicians again getting 562 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: away scott free, being above the law, not being held 563 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: in the same standards at the rest of us that 564 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: sign a non disclosures, we won't violate NASHA security. I 565 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: helped too, and that is wrong. And that's why I 566 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: will never stop until I'm on my death bed. I'm 567 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: trying to bring this this and she is an evil, 568 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: evil woman to justice. I will never stop. I don't 569 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: think the American people should stop asking questions and stop 570 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: ever stop trying to bring her to justice as well, 571 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: because she did and she should have been on trial 572 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: for the death just as much as Abul Katala Chris 573 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Paranto is a former Army ranger and part of the 574 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Antex security team from that night and faithful Night in 575 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: ben Gazig, Libya in twelve Chris, thank you for your service. 576 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for everything you're doing out there. Man, keep 577 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: it up and come back anytime you one. Thanks brother, 578 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: Be safe, Buck, talk to you soonbody you too, well, 579 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: there you have it. And somebody who was who was 580 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: there that night and has been through the whole process, 581 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's it's so important for everim to 582 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: hear too. You know, I'm wrong in a sense when 583 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: I say that there was no one held responsible on 584 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: the on the U. S side for what happened that 585 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: at in Benghazi, because our our government punished some of 586 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: the heroes. You just heard it from Chris himself, some 587 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: of those who rushed towards the gunfire to try to 588 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: save their fellow Americans in dressed that they were punished. 589 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: And it's a frustration for me. I remember I've told 590 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: you this before. When that attack happened, I was on 591 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: air that night, and I I knew a lot of 592 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: what is known now, Um, but couldn't you know, I 593 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: just couldn't say anything and just had to just had 594 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: to be there and say, okay, you know this is 595 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: what what what? What news reports have come in. I'm 596 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: analyzing the news as it's reported. I'm giving it no 597 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: additional context because I knew that there were there were 598 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: security issues that have all since you know, not all, 599 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: but a lot a lot of that has since come 600 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: out and is now public knowledge. Um. But I also 601 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: know that there's more about Benghazi that we have not 602 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: been allowed to know. And people who are very who 603 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: are much closer to the subject matter, shall we say, 604 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: than I was, people who were still in at the time, 605 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: wished that that information could be made public because the 606 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: American people would be even more outraged about it. And 607 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's too late for this now, but it 608 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: it very well may have if the press had dug 609 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: a little deeper and tried a little less to shield 610 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: the Obama administration from blame, it may have cost Obama 611 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Obama the reelection. It may have had some things come 612 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: out and had it gone a different way. And that 613 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: was why the whole Candy Crowley thing with Mitt Romney 614 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: and all that was so important to them, because they knew, 615 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: they knew that the narrative of a of a kind 616 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: of new style of Democrat presidency that it could actually 617 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: be trusted on terrorism instead of being blundering on terrorism, 618 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: which is the truth of what the abdministration was doing. 619 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: I know, Oslomon lawdon great. There was a lot of 620 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: other stuff that over the course of eight years was 621 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: completely mishandled. And killing Bin Laden didn't end al Qaeda, 622 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: didn't stop the je hottest threat, and it was the 623 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: result of US special operations and the intelligence community. It's 624 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: not like, you know, I joke around about how Brian 625 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Williams acts like he's the guy repelling out of the helicopter. 626 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, Obama took more than his fair share of 627 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: victory laps for the whole bin Laden situation. Anyway, it's 628 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: it's frustrating. It is frustrating, and I can imagine for 629 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: those who knows still people well, we lost we lost 630 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: four of our own that night in Benghazi, but also 631 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: there were some who were grievously wounded. And a measure, 632 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: well a measure is what the CI director says. We've 633 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: got a full measure of justice, real justice with Katala 634 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: being punished for murders that were committed at his behest 635 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: that would seem to be the least we could we 636 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: could want after a proceeding like this. But look, it's 637 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: it's true in any case where there's a jury involved, 638 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: you put it before a jury, you are rolling the dice. 639 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. And he's going to 640 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: jail for for a few decades for sure. But it 641 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: should have been a lot more. All Right, we're gonna 642 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: talk about I mean, perhaps the biggest story today honestly 643 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: is North Korea and this missile launch. We will dive 644 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: into it together. This is some scary stuff. Stay with 645 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: me and we'll talk about it. You are now entering 646 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: the Freedom Technical Operations Center. All sensitive programs musty Kens 647 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: strictly need to know. Team Buck is cleared and ready 648 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: for the Buck brief North Korea fires and intercontinental ballistic 649 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: missile that it is now reported, could put the US 650 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: appital Washington d C itself could now be in range. 651 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: This was the first test in more than two months, 652 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: and it dashes any hopes that the kimb regime was 653 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: hoping to begin a constructive dialogue with either the US 654 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: or more likely an intermediary about how to step down 655 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: from the current nuclear brinksmanship. This is very troubling. Let 656 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: me just give you some of the specifications of what 657 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: we know about the missile launched as of as of 658 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: airtime right now. Quote. The missile, which launched early Wednesday, 659 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: traveled some six hundred and twenty miles and reached a 660 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: height this is the big point here of about hundred 661 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: miles before landing off the coast of Japan and flew 662 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: for a total of fifty four minutes. This suggested that 663 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: it had been fired almost straight up on a lofted trajectory, 664 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: similar to North Korea's two previous intercontinental ballistic missile tests. 665 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: The Pentagon said that the projectile did indeed appear to 666 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: be an intercontinental ballistic missile or i C b M. 667 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: And this is what Secretary of State Matti I'm sorry, 668 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense Maddis had to say about this earlier today, 669 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: sender speaker, a little over two and a half hours ago, 670 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: North Korea launched an intercontinental ballistic missile. You went higher, 671 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: frankly than any previous suns they've taken. As the research 672 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: and development effort on their part continued building ballistic missiles 673 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: that could threaten everywhere in the world and basically and 674 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: in response, the South Korean have fired some tin point 675 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 1: missiles out into the water to make certain North Korea 676 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: understand that they could be taken under fire by our ally. 677 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is it's a continued effort to 678 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: build a threat for a blistic missile threat that endangers 679 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: world peage, regional peage, and for the United Yeah, this 680 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: is a major concern, should be a major concern for 681 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: anybody who is paying attention to national security. Um and 682 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: and this is getting the world's attention here now that 683 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the Trump administration has been on this, and I should 684 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: know that this was handed off to this White House 685 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: after decades of failure. North Korea has been a foreign 686 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: policy challenge of bipartisan failure, stretching back to the Clinton era, 687 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: stretching back to Kim Jong Ill forget about Kim Jong 688 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: on the the father of the current despot of pyeong Yang. 689 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: They have not figured out how to handle this problem. Now. 690 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: President Trump assures us, and assured us earlier today that 691 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: in fact they will figure this out and it will 692 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: all be okay. Some of you have reported a missile 693 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: was launched a little while ago from North Korea. Will 694 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: only tell you that you will take care of it. 695 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: We have general medics in the room with us, and 696 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: we've had a long discussion on it. It is a 697 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: situation that we will handle, a situation that they will 698 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: And okay, uh, Look, the president part of his job 699 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: here is to reassure the American people because this is 700 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: this can rattle some of us right understandably, when you 701 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: now have the craziest regime in the world that the 702 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: more you know about it, the scarier it is. That 703 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: it may have the capacity to two hit any US 704 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: city with a nuclear weapon. That that might keep some 705 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: people up late at night. Now that's that is a concern. 706 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: And then then you get into well would they risk it, 707 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: would they in fact try to hit us? I think 708 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: the answer is no. But you don't really want to 709 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: live in a world where you're worried about finding out, right, 710 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: that's the problem. And Trump says that they will figure 711 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: this out. But when I heard from a White House 712 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: senior official earlier today on this, I have to tell 713 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: you I was not encouraged. Now, there may be plans there. 714 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are plans I don't know about. Look, 715 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been out of the game for 716 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: a while, um, but they're not telling me anything that 717 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: I haven't heard before, And in fact, this was not 718 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: confidence inspiring. Here's uh, he's some senior some look it 719 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: looks like the sort of quintessential senior House official on 720 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: national security. I forget the guy's name, but he was 721 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: speaking about it with Brett Michael Anton, thank you speaking 722 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: about it with Brett Bear earlier. Here here's what he 723 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: had to say. North Korea is already the most sanctioned 724 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: country in the world. Is anything the UN Security Council 725 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: can do that somehows ratchets ratchets it up further than 726 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: the US and the UN. I've already done well. We 727 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: got we did pass two resolutions already this year. We're 728 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: always looking at new ways to apply this pressure, whether 729 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: that be through the Security Council, whether it be obviously 730 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: unilaterally by the United States alone or and in multilateral combinations. 731 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: We know that there are other countries closer to the 732 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: border of North Korea that have much more leverage than 733 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: the United States does, and we don't have diplomatic relations, 734 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: we don't really have economic ties. Obviously, we want all 735 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: the nations of the world to do more. Ultimately, that 736 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: means Russian China at the utmost, which have the greatest 737 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: amount of economic ties and um and and leverage over 738 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: North Korea. We've seen progress. The President is encouraged by 739 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: the progress he's seen, especially from the Chinese government over 740 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,479 Speaker 1: the course of his year. I think we don't believe 741 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: if there's any country on Earth that has exhausted all 742 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: of its alternatives. So we think everybody can do more. 743 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: But we're encouraged by the progress, and we're going to 744 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: be pushing for more progress. But us anytime you have 745 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: progress presence on some stuff, lots of progress, Ah, not 746 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: not really, you know, to say that today, I mean, 747 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: what what? What really is the progress? Look, I'm just 748 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: keeping it real everybody, I know, right this is a 749 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, well, you know, Trump's 750 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: got this in the the administration. This is a very a 751 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: very tough nut to crack. This is not easy because 752 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: here's the North Korean point of view. There's nothing but 753 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: benefit from them for them, for their regime to be 754 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: able to threaten US with a with a nuclear hit, 755 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: with a nuclear strike their regimes, that means the regime's 756 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: going nowhere. And if they can build keep in mind, 757 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: they're building more nukes, right, they put together a nuclear 758 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: arsenal of who knows if you know a few hundred 759 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: weapons that we're we actually believe could hit us anywhere 760 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: in the US. They're not worried about any invasion or 761 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: military strike or anything anymore. I mean, I see there's 762 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: a piece up by uh by Mark uh Mark Feishan 763 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: on the Fox News dot Com where he's saying that Trump, 764 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: uh unless I'm misreading, you know, I'm feasting. Here's what 765 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: it says, President should take out the site where North 766 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: Korea just launched an I C B m Um. That's 767 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: a really good way to start a war, firing missiles 768 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: at North Korea, to blow up a nuclear weapon site 769 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: that they've just fired a missile from. I mean, if 770 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: you want to start a war, I mean, if that's 771 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: what you think, the answer is here. And I don't 772 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: mean that as as a completely rhetorical statement, right, if 773 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: you want to start a war, I mean, maybe people 774 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: do think that we need to actually strike, but don't 775 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get away with just hitting one missile 776 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: site and North Korea is gonna say, yeah, you know, 777 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: we didn't need that one. North Korea has a tremendous 778 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: chemical weapons program. We have no idea really what their 779 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: biological weapons program. Maybe we don't, you know, a lot 780 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: of assumptions made. I will remind everybody I come from 781 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: the CIA's Analytic Office of Iraq. Mistakes can be made. 782 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: We don't know as much as we think we know. 783 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: And if there is a country that has been cut 784 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: off from the decision makers in our government knowing what's 785 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: really happening there, trust me, North Korea is high on 786 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: that list. I don't have answers for you. I just 787 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: would note that I've told you all along that this 788 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: isn't gonna work. The incentives for North Korea is still 789 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: are to continue its belligerent behavior. Why would it? Why 790 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: would it give it? Because of economic pressure. They'll find 791 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: some They'll find some way to make up for the shortfalls. 792 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: The people already live in abject misery, despair, and slavery. 793 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: We think by by cutting off foreign currency reserves, there's 794 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna be what revolution The people at the top of 795 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: the North Korean power pyramid. They've got plenty of food 796 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: or they've got food. They're not gonna turn on Kim 797 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: Jong on. As I've been saying. The more you learn 798 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: about North Korea, the more you realize that this is 799 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: not a this is not a normal country. This is 800 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: not in a place of twenty some odd million people 801 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: I think it's roughly thirty uh that has a conception 802 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: of reality that aligns with ours at all. They think 803 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: that we are trying to eradicate them, by the way. 804 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: That's North Korean propaganda that we are just waiting, you know, 805 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: we we have a flotilla, you know, we'll send out 806 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: a fleet with a carrier and we'll say, see, we're 807 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: showing strength behave North Korea. Internally, North Korea, they're telling 808 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: their people that we're just were that the only thing 809 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: stopping the US military from coming in like the you know, 810 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: invading huns is Kim Jong un and the North Korean military, 811 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: and that we want to come in and destroy the 812 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: whole country and kill everybody. And that is so that 813 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: is so apart from reality to us that it's hard 814 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: to take it seriously. But this is a country where 815 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: people don't have access to any outside sources of information. 816 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I know there's been there's been some 817 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: uh bleed over of South Korean DVDs and Chinese DVDs 818 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: and people. You know, there's yeah, I know, it's not 819 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not a hermetically sealed country. There are some 820 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: contacts with the outside world, but it's just not it's 821 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: not a situation that can be easily read by our 822 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: leadership and this whole Oh, we're gonna pressure China, We're 823 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: pressure trying to do What do people really think that 824 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: that China's calling the shots in North Korea? The answer 825 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: is no. Um, you know, the answer is no. You know, 826 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: we can't get Mexico to build a wall, but we're 827 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna get China to do what in North Korea? Well, 828 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: what do we really think is gonna shut it off 829 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: and we want to blockade? Is that the answer we're 830 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna start? I mean, North Korea is already partially starving. 831 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna starve it even more. I know there are 832 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: people are gonna go on TV this day, well, you know, 833 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: multilader a lot of things like multilateralism and strategicy and 834 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: you know all this other stuff. You're gonna notice when 835 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: you hear people talking about this, they will not they 836 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: will not tell you anything you really don't already know 837 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: about North Korea. Overwhelmingly on TV that's what you'll see. 838 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: And then it just just turns into, well, am I 839 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: pushing for a positive perception of how Trump is handling 840 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: this or a negative perception of how Trump is handling this. 841 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's just yet another effort, not another exhibition 842 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: of partisanship. And I don't know, it's almost like North 843 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: Korea becomes irrelevant in the public discussion of this. You'll 844 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: see it tonight, you'll see it on on all kinds 845 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: of shows. You'll see this on in the commentary about it. 846 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: But as I've been saying to you, there are lessons 847 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: that dictators can draw from the last couple of decades, 848 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, in a post No eleven world, for example, 849 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: And one of the lessons is if you got nukes, 850 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere. If you don't have nukes, my 851 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: your days maybe numbered. And they saw what happened to Kaddafi, 852 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: and I can't even describe what really happened to Caddafi 853 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: on air on this radio show because I know their 854 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: kids listening. But that that's uh. You know, the assad regime, 855 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: they paid attention to what happened to Kadafi and Saddam 856 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: They're like, nope, there is no brutality. There's no viciousness 857 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: that the Assad regime would not do to avoid that faith. 858 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: They don't care. I don't care how many people they kill, rape, murder, pillage, 859 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: you name it. Kim Jong n even worse, even worse. 860 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: They've got people now who you know I don't like. 861 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: I don't know Mark Deeson. He might be really good 862 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: on some stuff, but yeah, the president should respond by firing, 863 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: by by blowing up part of North Korea. I mean, 864 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: if I lived in Seoul, the capital of South Korea, 865 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: I'd be pretty annoyed that an American thought that the 866 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: best way to go here. Remember, North Korea has been 867 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: firing missiles. It's we we don't like it. It's it's belligerent. 868 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: Haven't fired a missile at US yet, haven't killed any 869 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: Americans with any of this. We blow up in North 870 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: Korean military facility, you know, that's the first strike situation. 871 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: We don't know how that's gonna go. I'm this is 872 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: concerning because I know that, you know, part of the 873 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: the appeal of Trump is um is to deal with 874 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: things as they to deal with things, full force, straight 875 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: on right, not to dance around the is and talk 876 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 1: about stuff and lots of meetings and Latte's and everything else, 877 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: but to actually what is the problem? State the problem, 878 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: addressed the problem. I'm trying to do that with you 879 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: right now in North Korea. What people are talking about 880 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: right now, who are pretending they know he's wrong. It 881 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: will not work unless you think that we need to 882 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: just roll the dice if things are so die or 883 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: we need to roll the dice. That's a dangerous place 884 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: to be when you're talking about the most totalitarian nation 885 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: state to really have ever existed. Yeah, I am very 886 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: very concerned. Will we will see how this plays out. 887 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: It Trump says he's got it, I don't know. Do 888 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: you think he's got an eight four to five. I'll 889 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: be back with more. Stay with me. Just a note 890 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: team that I will be on Fox News tonight at 891 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: eleven pm Eastern I believe right around the top of 892 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: the show, so right, or you know, maybe eleven oh 893 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: five ish talking about North Korea. This missile launch would 894 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: it means? And um, you know that will be Yeah, 895 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: that will be an opportunity to discuss what I've been 896 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: talking to you about here. I'm gonna really think about 897 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to do more than just say, what's not 898 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: going to work, which is the continuation what we've already seen. 899 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know exactly what will work, So I, um, 900 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: please do join me though, if you can join me, 901 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: if you can um. I also saw the James O'Keefe video. 902 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: Total Ah. I saw the James O'Keefe video, and oh boy, 903 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: what is there to say about this? Uh? You know, 904 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: I I've had James on the show before. I think 905 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: he's done. Uh, he's done some very interesting work in 906 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: the past. I know he's a anyone who's gonna be 907 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: unearthing the truth about the left and progressives is going 908 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 1: to be called controversial and they're gonna go after him. 909 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: Was was it was O'Keefe involved though, with the Center 910 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,479 Speaker 1: for Medical Progress with the videos of the abortion because 911 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: that was that was gut wrenching but profound undercover journalism 912 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: of those abortion clinics and those abortion clinic and employees. 913 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember if I think that was actually that 914 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: wasn't O'Keeffe's unit, though, I think that was a different 915 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: the Center for Medical Progress. That was a different group. 916 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: I camemb if there were ties. But here's what happened 917 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: with keef. If you didn't see it. He tried to 918 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: run a a a fake source into the Washington Post 919 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: on the Roy Moore issue, and they videotaped the encounter 920 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: with the with the fake source. And the point of 921 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: this was to show that anybody could concoct a story 922 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post had run with it, I assume, 923 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: and the Washington Post figured out what was going on 924 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: after multiple meetings, and they sniffed out the they sniffed 925 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: out the the scheme, and it's all on video, and 926 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: it does not look good. In fact, let's just be 927 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 1: honest about it, it's a strong day for the Washington Post. 928 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: It looks like they do their source vetting very seriously. 929 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: And you know, this is where we get into the 930 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: discussion about what media bias really is. They're not running 931 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: with entirely false news stories all the time. They're not 932 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: running this is And look, I've worked in this this 933 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: area now for seven years, and I was an Intel 934 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: analyst for almost what six or seven years before that, 935 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: But I've been a media you know, a media junkie 936 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: my whole life. Okay, ever, as long as I can 937 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: remember the real biases in what they choose to not 938 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 1: cover and in how they cover things, but they can't 939 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: just entirely make stuff up, right, There is a difference 940 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: between what you'll and like the National and Choir, you know, 941 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: the front page of the National Choir in the Washington Post. 942 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: Let's not get too crazy with the fake news thing. 943 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they never that the Washington Post in 944 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: your times never lies. I'm just saying they what they do, 945 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: the way that they portray things, in the way that 946 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: they are biased is in one what they choose to 947 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: cover at all or not to cover at all, the 948 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: amount of coverage they do, which has a profound effect 949 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: on how people view different subjects and subject matter. And 950 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: then it's in the context and the words and the descriptions, 951 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: and but it's not generally in the wholesale falsification of 952 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: a story or of the sources for the story. So 953 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 1: I just think this was this O'Keeffe venture was obviously 954 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: ill fated and ill advised. In the public can change things. 955 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we all talked about for you a little 956 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: bit at a time. You know, don't get in the 957 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: elevator with him, you know, and the whole every female 958 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: in the press court knew that, right, don't get in 959 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: the elevator with him. Now people are saying it out loud, 960 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: and I think that does make it. That is a change. Okay, 961 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: thanks very much. So that was a journalist Roberts writes 962 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: her name Coco here Roberts. She was saying about Conyers, 963 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: Representative Conyers, that everybody knew. Oh can you think about 964 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: this for a second, right, you know, you're you you're 965 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: listening to our radio show. If I was walking around 966 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: the office and everybody's like, well, you know, Buck's a 967 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: great guy, but everybody knew, you know, don't get into 968 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: the elevator with that guy. I would I would be 969 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: very ashamed if that were my reputation. Don't get into 970 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: an elevator with him because he might grab you. That's 971 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: what this one. Now that it's all out about Conyers, 972 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: now that another woman has come forward and claimed harassment, 973 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: now that that's going on, we're not we're treated to 974 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: the to the actual truth that this was known. This 975 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: has been known all along that Conyers was was was 976 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: grabby with women and and worse. Um, I I have 977 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: to note that it is you have to look really hard. 978 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean you have to do multiple Google searches and 979 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: and digg in to information that is presented in different 980 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: stories and really go down to find out what Conyers 981 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: is accused of, because it's it's a pretty pretty aggressive, 982 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: pretty graphics stuff. It's not Weinstein level criminality, but it's 983 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: it's real sexual harassment. It's fire able stuff for sure. 984 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: But here we are. Now they'll tell the truth, you know. 985 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: Now it'll say that you know it was known that 986 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: he was he was. How how is that never reported on? Oh? 987 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: That's right, he's an icon, you see, too important to 988 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat cause to just to allow the fact and 989 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: the reality of his conduct to get in the way. 990 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: He was. He was an eye comer. Oh, I see, 991 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: and still is for them. Oh. The Senator Ron Wyden 992 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: Um has also come to the defense of a Democrat here, 993 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: he's a Democrat. Here's what he said about Al Franken. 994 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: What do you make of the argument by some liberal 995 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: columnists Um that by not demanding that Franken and Congressman 996 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: John Conyers, who has been accused by at least two 997 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: staffers of sexual harassment, by not demanding that they step down, 998 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: democrats are seating any high ground on this sexual harassment issue. Well, 999 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: with respect, Senator frank and these are obviously serious allegations. 1000 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: He's called for an ethics inquiry. I think that's appropriate, 1001 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: and I want to see the results. But you don't 1002 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: think he needs to step down as of now. I 1003 00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: think it's appropriate that there be an ethics inquiry, an 1004 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: ethics inquiry. Ah, that whole moment of of recognition among 1005 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats that sexual harassment was a zero tonversation didn't 1006 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: last very long, did It didn't stay around for all 1007 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: that long as I was telling you yesterday, No surprise there. 1008 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: But this will I think eventually, this will just fade away. 1009 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm I feel like I'm the bringer, 1010 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the bringer of cynical viewpoints today. But the cultures of 1011 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, the culture of of one company or another, 1012 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: or of institutions they're are, They're already subject to all 1013 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: kinds of laws and restrictions. So it has to change 1014 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: because the people inside them change. And the basis for 1015 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: all of this is just manners in decent conduct and 1016 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and consideration for your fellow human beings. Considerations for your 1017 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: coworkers are just for somebody else as a person, not 1018 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: to treat them like an object or property. In the 1019 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: context of somebody that you can leverage your professional position 1020 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: in order to you know, physically used for your own purposes. 1021 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is it's really not that 1022 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: complicated when you get down to it. But it's also 1023 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: not really about this is not about being truthful and honest. 1024 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I think in over the long term about any of this, 1025 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: this will very quickly devolve into and into the partisan 1026 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: which hunt. It's just a question of when, and they're 1027 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: they're holding back on this until that or we're we're 1028 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: all holding our breath waiting to see when that becomes. 1029 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: That becomes the case. We have been here before, the 1030 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: sexual harassment that they're talking about here, the sexual harassment allegations. 1031 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: This is not new. The laws are already in place, 1032 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: they're already have been lots of dicussion about this. And 1033 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: as I've said to you, I mean, my my experience, 1034 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: my experience with this. That sounds like a really bad 1035 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: way to start this conversation, but my experience in a 1036 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: professional workplace in the federal government with this was that 1037 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: you did not you did not want to be caught 1038 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: off even as a witness in a sexual harassment case. 1039 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: You didn't want to have to talk about it. You 1040 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: didn't that. The way that it works, I can tell 1041 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: you in some government organizations is that you can refuse 1042 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: to testify, even as a witness, not not in your 1043 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: own defense. You can refuse what ends up happening, they'll 1044 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: bring you in, they'll say did you hear this? Did 1045 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: so and so say this, And then you're in the 1046 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: position where you can you can make the decision whether 1047 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell, are you gonna tattle? Depends how egregious 1048 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: it is, right, I mean, if it's really bad stuff, 1049 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: probably feel fine about But you know, did you hear 1050 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: that that inappropriate joke that someone made? Well you're not 1051 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: aware of who else says that you were in the room, right, 1052 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's it's almost like it's treated 1053 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: like a criminal inquiry, and you're not under oath in 1054 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: the sense that you're not going to go to prison 1055 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: or anything for perjury. But the way it is in 1056 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: some government organizations is if you lie, you're fired. So 1057 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: for me to look at how and then no questions asked. 1058 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: By the way, if you're calling a lie doesn't even matter. 1059 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: If it's a small lie, you can be immediately terminated, 1060 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and even a even a relatively minor lie ar transgression 1061 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: in that process, and you know it's hard. I'm somebody 1062 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: who you know. I I applied to Davidson College member 1063 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: for school, and they have an honor code there, which 1064 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm fine with in principle, but they had I didn't 1065 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: end up going to the school, but they had an 1066 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: honor code that said that you know, you will not 1067 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I forget what the specifics are. I think uv A 1068 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: maybe still has A has the same code or something 1069 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 1: like it, but you know you will not lie, cheat, 1070 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: or steel, and you will report anyone who does so. 1071 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a I'm not a report anyone who 1072 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: does so unless, you know, unless I think something really 1073 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 1: needs to be I've maintained that discretion for myself. You know, 1074 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't like the snitch just 1075 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that's not That's not who I am. It's not how 1076 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: I do things. And I did not like that concept 1077 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: of you have to if somebody, like, if somebody else 1078 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: cheats on an exam and you see it, you have 1079 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: to turn them in or else you are treated as 1080 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: equally guilty. Which, yeah, Tyrone's not a he knows this 1081 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: is the way that it works at some of these 1082 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: schools and in the federal government when it came to 1083 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: sexual harassment, if you were asked about did so and 1084 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: so say this, you weren't allowed to say. Look, it's 1085 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: not my business, it's not my whatever. You know, did 1086 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you think that somebody was being a little appropriate? You know, 1087 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: you have to answer. And you may be talking about 1088 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: your friends, You may be talking to people that you 1089 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: think of the time or totally within the bounds. You know, 1090 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 1: just made a mistake. But now you're in a position 1091 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: where do you lie or and possibly jeopardize your job 1092 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: never mind tell a lie, or do you throw somebody 1093 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: under the bus that you think maybe is getting a 1094 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: rough a rough deal. You know, it's that was my 1095 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: exce So this, I mean, it's it's so many, it's 1096 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: so many universes away from what we've seen and been 1097 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: told about, particularly in Hollywood, but also in terms of 1098 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the way that it's functioning for Congress. I mean, and 1099 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: it's no surprise that Congress creates this whole separate reporting 1100 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: for itself, or this reporting mechanism that make sure that 1101 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: nobody is really going to be held account. Before it 1102 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: there was somebody else I can't remember off the top 1103 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: of my head who it was. But oh yeah, Gria, Grijalva, Grialva. 1104 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: His office paid out. This is from the Hill. His 1105 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: office paid out forty eight thousand in a workplace settlement. 1106 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: But now we're gonna start to get some of these 1107 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: cases that come out. Where was it covering up real 1108 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: abuse or was it, uh what was a covering of 1109 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: real abuse? Or was this just paying somebody off because 1110 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: it's easier to make it go away. Office place sexual 1111 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: harassment in the nineties, people began to say was the 1112 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: was the whiplash injury of the office place? Meaning that 1113 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: there were a lot of frivolous lawsuits that were brought. 1114 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Now you can tell me that there's been a massive 1115 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: change in that since then. Fine, But like I was saying, 1116 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: this is I don't think this is gonna get There's 1117 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: not gonna be there's not going to be anything that 1118 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 1: comes out of this over the long term. I think 1119 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that's all that different. I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, but 1120 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: this will right now, it's very politically sensitive. Right now, 1121 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: victims finally have the upper hand over their abusers. But 1122 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I doubt it will last because the way it stops 1123 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: is that once we see there it is used for 1124 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 1: a political hit. When it is clearly a political targeting, 1125 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: then people will just say, well, we can't. We're back 1126 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: to maybe where we should be, which is every individual 1127 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: case should be judges an individual case, you know, as 1128 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi said, due process and all that. Right, all right, 1129 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about We're talking about the media. And 1130 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: then also in the next hour, I've got much more 1131 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: coming your way. Stay with me. What's the danger in 1132 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: your view of the president as we saw over the weekend, 1133 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: um declaring a network in this case CNN International to 1134 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: be a fake and telling a global off of audience 1135 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,439 Speaker 1: the same thing, and um uh, perhaps deciding to give 1136 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: a trophy to the network of his choosing that's been 1137 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: reporting giving out the most fake news. What he did 1138 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 1: is he endangered certainly, uh, CINN journalists, all journalists operating 1139 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: and dangerous areas and autocratic areas. And it's another assault 1140 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: in in spirit on the concept of free press, on 1141 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: the spirit of the First Amendment. These are the behaviors 1142 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:02,439 Speaker 1: of an autocrat, dreviably a vers of an autocrat. Yeah, right, 1143 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Steve Schmidt of what was the MSNBC, you had Brian Williams, 1144 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: who took a few moments out from his busy schedule 1145 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: of repelling off of roofs with the Seal Team six 1146 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: in undisclosed locations around the world. You know. And by 1147 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: the way, Brian Williams, the Seals, they all carry weapons. 1148 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Brian Williams just needs his hands. He's that good. Uh. 1149 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: He took time off from from that to get all 1150 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: upset and and really have to pull up the we 1151 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: ambulance on how Trump says that c AN International is 1152 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: fake news or it's it's bad for the country or whatever. 1153 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: And then they bring out Steve Schmidt, whom all you 1154 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: can really need, not like I don't know Steve Schmidt. 1155 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 1: He could be really nice guy. He says a lot 1156 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: of I think, very uh, bone headed things on TV. 1157 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: But you know, he might be a nice guy. All 1158 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: you have to know is that he's the one Republican 1159 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,799 Speaker 1: in the movie Game Change that that I can recall 1160 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 1: that they don't make look like a complete and utter 1161 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: buffoon and and an unethical slug And he was played 1162 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 1: by Woody Harrelston in that movie. And so that's all 1163 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you have to know. Because if the Left likes you, 1164 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: there's a problem This is something that I keep in mind. 1165 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: The people that the mainstream media hate the most on 1166 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 1: the right are a lot of the best people. So 1167 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 1: they and they make no distinctions between those who are 1168 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 1: trying to in good faith be centrist or be a 1169 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: little more accommodating to alternate points of view and those 1170 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,680 Speaker 1: who are just like, this is a street fight. We've 1171 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: gotta win, right, whether you're Romney or benn In, the 1172 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 1: left wants to destroy you. So with someone like Steve Schmidt, 1173 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: who is a quote Republican, uh, then you have the 1174 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: same the same thing you always have, which is if 1175 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 1: you want to be a Republican on MSNBC, your job 1176 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: is to go on there and talk about how bad 1177 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Trump and all the other Republicans are. It's the one 1178 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: way you can get immediate job security over there. But 1179 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: the whole press corps seems really upset over this whole 1180 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: this this Trump situation. Um. For example, you have CNN's 1181 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, who is just going after Trump. The President 1182 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: does not care for us reporting these facts, and it 1183 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: seems like he does not want you to believe these facts. 1184 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: The President said he wanted to give an award based 1185 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: on which network is the most quote dishonest, corrupt, and 1186 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: or distorted. But his problems with journalism seem to be 1187 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: rooted in the exact opposite. He hates that which is 1188 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:46,560 Speaker 1: honest and ethical and precise. Ask yourself why might that 1189 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: be so? Now? I would like to ask Jake Tapper 1190 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: a question which will never happen because Jake Tapper will 1191 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,879 Speaker 1: would have an endless uh and endless uh clown cars 1192 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: worth of the weak giest Republican debate opponents possible on 1193 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 1: his show of the course of the campaign, and and 1194 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: and I was I was never asked or welcome on 1195 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Jake show even when I was a an employee of CNN. 1196 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Um which go and look at some of the lineups 1197 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: they've had and tell me, Okay, was this a Gravitas 1198 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: issue or is this just a they know that Buck 1199 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 1: will light them up on their own show issue. You 1200 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: can make your own calls about that. But Jake Tapper 1201 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 1: saying that Trump hates that which is ethical and honest, 1202 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 1: I would just want someone to ask Tapper what exactly 1203 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: does CNN think it is? Does CNN reject that it 1204 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 1: is a Democrat network that's pretending to be a centrist 1205 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: unbiased journalistic enterprise, because if he can't answer that question, honestly, 1206 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: nothing else after that really matters. Right, if we were 1207 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: to ask Jake Tapper whose brand at CNN is, he's 1208 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: at least the he's the the least unreasonably partisan of 1209 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: their ajor anchors. I think that's fair to say that's 1210 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,640 Speaker 1: his brand, not that he's nonpartisan. He's the least unreasonably 1211 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: partisan of the hyperpartisan anchors at CNN. And if some 1212 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: were to ask him the question do you think that 1213 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: CNN is left leaning? He would go into and I 1214 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 1: guarantee it some You know, we have many journalists who 1215 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,280 Speaker 1: are very ethical and rigorous standards and gold standard and 1216 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: journalism and blah blah blah. But are you are you 1217 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: always taking a Democrat point of view? And do do 1218 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 1: your producers and your anchors and your shows favor a 1219 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: Democrat left narrative? Jake Tapper, what's the answer to that question? 1220 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,560 Speaker 1: They would say No, I couldn't believe it. When I 1221 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 1: was at CNN. How many people would look at me 1222 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: like I was crazy, And I'd say, well, we all 1223 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: know that this is you guys are just MSNBC without 1224 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 1: the honesty, Did you not? Are you unaware of that. 1225 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: You don't get that, And they also seem not to 1226 01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: grasp that, given that fundamental disconnect with reality that they 1227 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: have at CNN, given that they don't seem to understand that, 1228 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: all the rest of us who don't buy into their 1229 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: propaganda see that they are in fact. And look, it's 1230 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: fine to be a Democrat network. It's fine to be 1231 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: a left of center cable. Note I have no problem 1232 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: with that in concept, but just be honest about it. 1233 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 1: And also don't pretend that the president doesn't also have 1234 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 1: First Amendment rights. President is allowed to say he doesn't 1235 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: like any network he likes. It doesn't mean that he's 1236 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,759 Speaker 1: trying to help autocrats. It doesn't mean that he's helping 1237 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: hostile foreign governments. I mean all this stuff. And notice 1238 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: how CNN always runs to like international opinion and you know, 1239 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: the international community those sux thing really is the international community. 1240 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: It's largely a fiction of people who use the term. 1241 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 1: But until they can say, until they can admit that, 1242 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 1: assuming their anchors voted at CNN, not a single anchor 1243 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: on that network, the only or tell you they voted for, 1244 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,640 Speaker 1: of course, is how they get around this. But I 1245 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: can tell you not a single one voter for Trump, 1246 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: not one, And they're going to tell us all that 1247 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 1: there it's all about truth and honesty. And you know 1248 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: that they revile this term fake news. It's just completely 1249 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 1: and utterly laughable that they can't be forthright with the 1250 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: American people. Oh wow, by the way, I just saw 1251 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 1: a CNN panel. I think they were like thirty people 1252 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 1: on the screen at one time, Like whoa, whoa, and 1253 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: whether one of them you've got wolf Blitz are talking 1254 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 1: to uh before? What was this the guy's name earlier today? What? 1255 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. All these anchors are Democrats that are 1256 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: all left, and yet they pretend that they're not. I 1257 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 1: just and they think there's honesty in that. They think 1258 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: that there's a brand to be salvaged with the pretense 1259 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: of oh no, we are not in fact, partisan journalists 1260 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: were something else. No, they are very much much part 1261 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,640 Speaker 1: of the hashtag resistance. That is their brand. Now. It 1262 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,640 Speaker 1: is why I left CNN. I could not stand to 1263 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 1: deal with the dishonesty anymore. But Jake Tapper wants to 1264 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 1: give lectures on honesty. Fair enough, We'll be back talk 1265 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,600 Speaker 1: about the Hillary email situation. Some interesting updates on that 1266 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: stay with me. There was an effort on the certainly 1267 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: on the part of the campaign, to mislead people and 1268 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 1: to think he needed there was nothing to see here, 1269 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,560 Speaker 1: told that we would be the first two to be 1270 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: fired with her administration, that that was definitely going to happen. 1271 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Is that how it's supposed to be? I was, in 1272 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: this context a whistle blower. I was explaining to Congress, 1273 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I was doing exactly what they had expected me to do, 1274 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I was the enemy. That 1275 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,440 Speaker 1: is from a new report out, and that was Charles McCullough, 1276 01:15:55,080 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: who was the intelligence watchdog for the former and own's 1277 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Community Inspector General Charles McCullough the third and he was 1278 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: saying last night on Fox that he knew that there 1279 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 1: would be consequences if, in fact, he did not play 1280 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: ball with the Hillary administration. Uh, there are a bunch 1281 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: of thoughts I want to share with you on this, 1282 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to get as many of them 1283 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 1: in in a regional time frame here as I can. 1284 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Because we all know that the fix was in for Hillary, right, 1285 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: we knew that Comey was When I say we knew, 1286 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 1: it was not surprising to find out that Comey was 1287 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 1: already drafting a letter that would say there'd be no 1288 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,600 Speaker 1: charges filed against Hillary. I knew all along that it 1289 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: did not matter what was in those emails, how egregious 1290 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: it was. Hillary Clinton was not in an election year 1291 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,600 Speaker 1: when she was the Democrat nominee for president. She was 1292 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: not going to face criminal charges for this. And this 1293 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: is yet another data point that supports that point of view. 1294 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: This shows us that Charles McCulloch coming out here to 1295 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 1: say that he was threatened with retribution by Hillary allies 1296 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 1: just lets us all know that, as I've said you 1297 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 1: many times before, the fix was in no question about it. 1298 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,720 Speaker 1: The fix was in here. And I would note that 1299 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: also in this interview he went on to say that 1300 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 1: because this was a very uh, this was a very 1301 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 1: contentious part of the whole debate. The way the Hillary 1302 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 1: people kept changing the storyline on this tells you a lot. 1303 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 1: But originally they were saying there was no classified, then 1304 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: there was nothing mark classified, then there was nothing mark classified. 1305 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: That was that big a deal even though it was 1306 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: mark classified. The only stop after that is you had 1307 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: incredibly sensitive stuff in your unclassified email, which is a 1308 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:57,280 Speaker 1: huge violation of security protocols and criminal law, and they 1309 01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: want us to believe that it never got to that point. 1310 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 1: But here's what this report and Fox said about all this. 1311 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 1: As one of the few people who viewed the UH 1312 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: the twenty two top secret Clinton emails deemed too classified 1313 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 1: to release under any circumstances, there was a very good 1314 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 1: reason to withhold those emails. There would have been harm 1315 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: to national security, McCullough said. He went further to tell 1316 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Fox News that sources and methods, lives and operations could 1317 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: be put at risk. Some and this is from the 1318 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Fox piece. Some of those email exchanges contained special access 1319 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 1: program information characterized by Intel experts as quote above top secret. Now, 1320 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,680 Speaker 1: I at one point how to t s clearance and 1321 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: know what they mean by above top secret. I read 1322 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 1: this in for it. You have only two options here. 1323 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 1: And this is from the Inspector General, the person who 1324 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: is in a sense the intelligence the classified information Ms. 1325 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 1: Budsman of the intelligence community, somebody who really knows this 1326 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 1: stuff backwards and forwards. And he's saying that sources, methods, 1327 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: lives and operations put at risk. That's setting off major 1328 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,600 Speaker 1: alarm bells for me, because I know the kind of 1329 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 1: information that he would have to be referring to there's 1330 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: only two options here. Either Hillary was putting stuff in 1331 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: those emails that, as was just said, could have put 1332 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: lives at risk. That's not you know, an analytic assessment 1333 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,560 Speaker 1: that's classified at the lowest level. You know, continued instability 1334 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 1: in the Middle East is likely. You know. Sometimes those 1335 01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 1: of you have had a clearance know that sometimes there's 1336 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: stuff that's classified. You're like, I mean, does that really 1337 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: need to be classified? And the answers no, there's a 1338 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,679 Speaker 1: lot of over classification. It's just a reality. Anybody who's 1339 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: worked in national security and how the clearance knows that. 1340 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: But only with the only at a certain level, right, 1341 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're not stuff is not marked super 1342 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 1: super duper secret, squirrel that is not secret at all, right, 1343 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's only at the very lowest level. Usually 1344 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,480 Speaker 1: you'll see stuff you're like, well, is that really classified 1345 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 1: or not? Or should that be classified or not? I mean, 1346 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: and there's no way that, as Fox puts it here, 1347 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 1: special Access program information should have under any circumstances whatsoever, 1348 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: made it into Hillary's emails. And this is where I 1349 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,879 Speaker 1: would tell you that I think the administration should release 1350 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 1: because people like me. I've never I don't know what 1351 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: was in those emails, and I haven't had a clearance 1352 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: in years and years now, right, so I can't see it. 1353 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I'm out of the game, which 1354 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 1: is great because it means that I can speak very 1355 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 1: freely with all of you. I've been out of the 1356 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: game now for for years, but out of the Intel game. Uh. 1357 01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 1: But if they even released redacted for ursions of the 1358 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Hillary emails, I could tell from the context how serious 1359 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,640 Speaker 1: the information is that we're talking about here, and and 1360 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: we should know. We should know because if what either 1361 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: this guy's lying or Hillary got away with a security 1362 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 1: breach that would have sent any other person in this 1363 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 1: country unless they also were a super powerful democrat to prison. Really, 1364 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: that's what this That's what the former Inspector General of 1365 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: the Intelligence community is saying here to Fox News. He also, 1366 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean, in case you weren't sure enough, I know 1367 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 1: that this is a story. It's been going on for 1368 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: a long time. There's a lot of but this is 1369 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 1: important because we're getting more of the information now. Just 1370 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: like as I've been telling you, we would do a 1371 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: and we'll do it tomorrow. Guys, remind me the Clinton Foundation. 1372 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Remember I sent you with the I was almost exactly 1373 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: right with my prediction about how the Clinton Foundation would 1374 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 1: turn out this year, because the numbers are in the 1375 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: fiscal year ended, and now we know what the donatations were, 1376 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,320 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll return to that tomorrow. Sometimes it takes 1377 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 1: a bit of time before I can have the follow 1378 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 1: up information to to bring you the you know, the 1379 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 1: so what you know that the did this really happen? 1380 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: Is this really? Was I right about all of this? 1381 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: And in any case, in any events, here we are 1382 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 1: now with the email situation and Hillary and seeing that 1383 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,680 Speaker 1: there was political pressure brought to bear. They promised us 1384 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: that that was not the case. They they swore all 1385 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,720 Speaker 1: over the place. Oh no, there's you know, it was 1386 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 1: an honest process. Comey as America's greatest boy scout. You know, 1387 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: he's the super g man. Can trust him with anything. 1388 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 1: Until he did something bad Hillary, Then he was the 1389 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,759 Speaker 1: worst person ever. That's what the media said. They flipped 1390 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 1: on that real fast. But this former Intelligence Community Inspector 1391 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 1: General James I'm sorry, Charles McCullough says the quote. I 1392 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: was told by members of Congress be careful you're losing 1393 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 1: your credibility. You need to be careful. There are people 1394 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 1: out to get you. So, uh, that's that's a pretty 1395 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:24,719 Speaker 1: clear That's a pretty clear indicator, isn't it. That Congress 1396 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: was like, look, Hillary is gonna be the president. That 1397 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 1: also tells you something very important that everything that was 1398 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 1: happening around the email investigation was premised under we can 1399 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 1: make this all go away. Think about how certain they 1400 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: were that Trump was gonna win. Think about how sure 1401 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,640 Speaker 1: they were that all of Hillary's horses and all of 1402 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 1: Hillary's men would be there to put the Hillary administration 1403 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: back together again once she won, and it would all 1404 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 1: be fine because they'd be in power and they could 1405 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, and it would be a long along gotten 1406 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 1: memory that Hillary had, at any point in time ever 1407 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 1: been involved in this scandal. So that also means that 1408 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 1: there were it was likely that they would be even 1409 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,720 Speaker 1: more brazen in their efforts to shut this whole thing 1410 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 1: down because they thought there would be no consequences for 1411 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: those efforts, and in fact, there would be rewards for 1412 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: those who were covering for Hillary with the emails, and 1413 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 1: there would be punishment for those who were trying to 1414 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 1: find the truth. There would be punishment for those who 1415 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 1: were upholding their oath to uh the American people into constitution. 1416 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,720 Speaker 1: That's that's the reality of the whole Hillary Heam email investigation. 1417 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,639 Speaker 1: So the truth matters just as a as a as 1418 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 1: an overall concept, right, we want to know the truth. 1419 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,640 Speaker 1: And then it also is important for all of us 1420 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 1: to look at this and keep analyzing and searching for 1421 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: more information on this, because the media has been telling 1422 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 1: us that Trump is he's destroying all these government institutions, 1423 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 1: and he's so terrible, and he's so awful, And I 1424 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 1: think you can argue and the Clintons were a wrecking 1425 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: ball when it comes to any sense of bipartisan fair 1426 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 1: play and government institutions. I think they were a wrecking 1427 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: ball too. Political integrity. I think that they completely blew 1428 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: apart any notion that there was such a thing as 1429 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 1: truth in politics that mattered. And so that's why all 1430 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: the the lectures and the and the harangues from the 1431 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: left about Trump, for so many of us, it's just 1432 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 1: just doesn't doesn't land. We we don't care. We don't 1433 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: care how how annoyed they are about Trump's verbis. We 1434 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 1: don't care how annoyed they are about the rough edges 1435 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration because Clinton was supposed to be 1436 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 1: our next president. And it doesn't get any worse than 1437 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 1: the Clinton's All right, Uh, we're gonna talk about Elizabeth 1438 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 1: Warren speaking enough. Can't get any worse talking to Elizaeth 1439 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Warren in a few minutes. Stay with me. President Trump 1440 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 1: couldn't even make it through a ceremony to honor these 1441 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: men without throwing in a racial slur. Yeah, he thinks 1442 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,120 Speaker 1: that somehow he's going to shut me up with that, 1443 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: and it's just not gonna happen. It. You know that 1444 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren still manages to say anything about this stuff 1445 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,680 Speaker 1: without groans from from everyone, well in the media and 1446 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,799 Speaker 1: anyone who hears it. It's pretty astonishing. This is somebody 1447 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: who engaged in racial fraud and now she's going to 1448 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 1: claim that it is a a racial slur. Um. Look, 1449 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm familiar with what would be considered a racial 1450 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 1: slur for Native Americans. There there are a few that 1451 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: we all know. Um, But referring to Elizabeth Warren as 1452 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: a very prom Native American when we all know she's 1453 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,559 Speaker 1: not Native American at all, is a slight against Warren. 1454 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 1: It's not a racial slur. It's not intended as a 1455 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 1: racial slur. But you don't have to take my word 1456 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 1: for it. You can actually have somebody else weigh in 1457 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:22,679 Speaker 1: on this one. The mooch, I I think that she's 1458 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 1: been nasty to him, and he's been concurrently nasty to arks. 1459 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 1: You've been victims of racial slurring because of your ethnic heritage, 1460 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 1: So I what do you do in a situation like that. 1461 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,640 Speaker 1: This is what I do. Okay, see that, that's what 1462 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 1: you do, and you have to do that at the 1463 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 1: end of the day. I think at the end we're 1464 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 1: getting a little bit to micro managing with each other's 1465 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 1: languages and the whole political correctness movement. I think most 1466 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,320 Speaker 1: people hired with it. You are, I am. Maybe you're not. 1467 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. You work at CNN. Yeah, there's a 1468 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: there's there's different speeds for the mooch. That's Anthony Scaramucci, 1469 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 1: formerly formerly White House Communications Director, formerly somebody who h 1470 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a pretty senior administration figure. I 1471 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: remember when I first met him and he was running 1472 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 1: the or was one of the top people in the transition, 1473 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: and I and my jaw hit the ground. I was like, so, 1474 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 1: this this guy, he's running Trump's transition team. Okay, and 1475 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: then he had that incredible uh I don't know if 1476 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you call it a fall from grace or uh belly 1477 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 1: flop from the high board high dive. I I don't know. 1478 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 1: But he didn't last for long in d C at all. 1479 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,439 Speaker 1: But I will note that his his when he goes 1480 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: into the more chilled out version of Scaramucci, which you 1481 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: got there on the phone. They let him call into 1482 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: the CNN Morning Show. Why. I don't really know. Wh 1483 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: wasn't that Chris Cuomo show or yeah, oh he was 1484 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: in studio. Oh, it sounded like he was on the 1485 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: phone again becausemember he had that epic phon er where 1486 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: he just went on and on with Cuomo. But yeah, 1487 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 1: they'd like to have him over at CNN. I wonder why. Um, 1488 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, at some point we're gonna have to understand, 1489 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to come together and agree that if 1490 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: you were in d C, if you're in the White 1491 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: House for like a month or maybe ten days or so, 1492 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that you really have a lot of 1493 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 1: insight to share about anything other than those ten days. 1494 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you'd be considered a wise, a 1495 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,640 Speaker 1: wise old owl of all things inside the Beltway. But 1496 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, hey, maybe I'm wrong, but hey, the mooch 1497 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: is waging in Hey, but he calls he refers to 1498 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: himself as the mooch. So I don't think that I'm 1499 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 1: This is not, by any means a slight on Italian 1500 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: American heritage, which he was clearly referring to in that 1501 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: in that sound bite, um he said that he had 1502 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 1: come come across racial slurs in his in his past. 1503 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,800 Speaker 1: He says Cuomo has as well. I I suppose I 1504 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 1: take his word at it. But this does return me 1505 01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 1: to something that I bring me back to something I 1506 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,599 Speaker 1: wanted to raise with you, and that is one Elizaeth 1507 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 1: Warren is just not a serious should not be a 1508 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 1: serious candidate for anything. It's really too Massachusetts is shame 1509 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 1: that she represents them in the Senate, but the fact 1510 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 1: that people even talk about her as a presidential candidate 1511 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: and she has an entire career built on fraud. And 1512 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,920 Speaker 1: I would just note that if if we're now at 1513 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 1: a phase where you know, inappropriate comments, not touching or 1514 01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 1: anything else, but comments from someone's career twenty years ago 1515 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 1: could be grounds for them losing their career. Wouldn't an 1516 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 1: entire legal and academic resume built upon a lie also 1517 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,160 Speaker 1: disqualify somebody from office. And I know they're very different things, 1518 01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: but it would seem to me that if we're expecting 1519 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 1: some degree of integrity from those who are gonna hold 1520 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 1: elected office, that should be applicable beyond even just sexual harassment, 1521 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 1: that that should be applicable as a general concept. But 1522 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm kind of old fashioned that way. 1523 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 1: I suppose one more note I wanted to get, and 1524 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,639 Speaker 1: we will have producer Amy look into this. I would 1525 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 1: like to get on a code talker of a Native 1526 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 1: American co talker, because there are some who are still 1527 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: who are still living, and I would love to get 1528 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,599 Speaker 1: one on the show if we could, just to share 1529 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,720 Speaker 1: some of the experiences, because you know, I was I 1530 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,880 Speaker 1: am still a little bit annoyed that the spat between 1531 01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:30,960 Speaker 1: what Warren and Trump was getting more of got more 1532 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,640 Speaker 1: of the attention that day, which was to honor the 1533 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,640 Speaker 1: code talkers than the story of what those Native Americans 1534 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 1: did from various most the most well known for the 1535 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,720 Speaker 1: co talkers or Navajo, but they were also there were 1536 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:51,519 Speaker 1: Comanche and a whole, a whole slew of different Native 1537 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 1: American tribes that were part of that. And I didn't 1538 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,519 Speaker 1: know this. I looked this up because I was curious, 1539 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 1: and actually began in the First World War, um and 1540 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,120 Speaker 1: it was really the It was an idea that came 1541 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 1: came about from an officer on the front lines too 1542 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 1: who had experienced back home. And there were some I 1543 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't think there were 1544 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 1: apache I forget what the tribe was, but there were 1545 01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,560 Speaker 1: some members of a Native American tribe who were with 1546 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 1: a military unit, and they and the US Army officer 1547 01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: decided that he would utilize their language skills or their 1548 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 1: native language because the Germans, who were able to especially 1549 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,560 Speaker 1: in the early days of any kind of radio communications 1550 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:41,679 Speaker 1: or telegraph, very very easy two intercept that the Germans 1551 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:46,599 Speaker 1: could intercept Native American Native American languages all day long 1552 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, what is this like Oddsonsanda stopped, like 1553 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,799 Speaker 1: what's is going on? And they had no idea understand 1554 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 1: that's just and it was a huge advantage of the bettlefit. 1555 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 1: So it started in the First World War and on 1556 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 1: small scale the Second World War in the Pacific Theater. 1557 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,360 Speaker 1: It was used much more, but there were many more 1558 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: code talkers involved. And then there was that movie wind 1559 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 1: Talkers with the Nicolas Cage, as I mentioned yesterday. But 1560 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: there are some people who look back on that because 1561 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 1: code breaking played an enormous role in the Second World War. 1562 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 1: There's that pretty recent movie The Imitation Game, which I 1563 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,519 Speaker 1: was frustrated it focused so much on the the personal 1564 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,760 Speaker 1: life and the personal struggles, and it's the middle of 1565 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 1: the Second World War. Sixty million people lost their lives, 1566 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't think we need to have so much 1567 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: of the the personal struggle of the primary code breaker 1568 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 1: out at Bletchley Park and dealing with the you know, 1569 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 1: the Enigma machine and and and all that. But it 1570 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,479 Speaker 1: was over. It's an important story for people to know. 1571 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 1: But code breaking was a huge part of the war 1572 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: after the Second World War, and it became it came 1573 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,639 Speaker 1: into prominence really in the in the First World War, 1574 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: or it began to be an issue in the First 1575 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 1: World War in a way never before. So anyway, I 1576 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 1: would like to spend some more. I would like to 1577 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,519 Speaker 1: have somebody on. If we can find a co talker 1578 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,040 Speaker 1: who would join the show, we will because I would 1579 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,840 Speaker 1: like to honor them. I would like to continue that 1580 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 1: conversation and not get distracted by the political dynamics around it. 1581 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 1: Because those men, those those Native Americans from various tribes 1582 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 1: were were heroes, and they serve this country honorably, and 1583 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 1: they deserve their moment in in the national spotlight, and 1584 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,040 Speaker 1: they deserve our appreciation. So I just wanted to note that, 1585 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,559 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get into some uh Team Bucks 1586 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 1: speaks coming up here in just a few minutes, So 1587 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 1: stay with me and we'll be right back. Just as 1588 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 1: a follow up to yesterday's story, everybody on the Consumer 1589 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Financial Protection Bureau, I am. I'm here to tell you 1590 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 1: that all is well with the world, or it's it's 1591 01:34:56,120 --> 01:35:01,840 Speaker 1: all going to be okay. Well, maybe that's saying too much, 1592 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: but at least for now, Donald Trump's appointee has asserted 1593 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:10,759 Speaker 1: control over the cf PB. Here's the Wall Street Journal 1594 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 1: reporting workers at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau arrived at 1595 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,160 Speaker 1: the office Monday to find two acting directors asserting dueling 1596 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,560 Speaker 1: authority and facing off over the direction of one of 1597 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,080 Speaker 1: the nation's financial watchdogs. The acting director appointed by the 1598 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 1: Trump administration, Mick Mulvaney, arrived a little before seven thirty 1599 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,280 Speaker 1: Monday morning, with two aids and a bag of donuts 1600 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,360 Speaker 1: to work in the Director's office across the street from 1601 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 1: the White House Complex. The office had been vacated Friday 1602 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,799 Speaker 1: by the departure of former Director Richard Cordrey. Mr mulvaney 1603 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,960 Speaker 1: later outlined his immediate plans to change how the bureau operates, 1604 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 1: including putting in place a thirty day freeze on the 1605 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 1: issuance of new rules and hiring so in the in 1606 01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:02,040 Speaker 1: the attempted deep state bureaucratic coup within the CFP B 1607 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 1: not the most exciting place in the world, I'm sure, 1608 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 1: but nonetheless it looks like the Trump team has emerged victorious. 1609 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 1: Also on this guy, Richard Cordrey, turns out that he 1610 01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:21,400 Speaker 1: has political aspirations and that wasn't to be fair the 1611 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 1: rest of CFPB. As of the most recent reporting, the 1612 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 1: rest of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau didn't think that 1613 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:34,679 Speaker 1: this whole succession struggle, uh nonsense was a good idea. 1614 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 1: This was just cooked up between the top guy Cordrey 1615 01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 1: and his successor, Miss England, and it was all about 1616 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 1: his future political aspirations. He's gonna run I think for 1617 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: the governor or something or other, I forget what exactly, 1618 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: but he wants to be an elected official going into 1619 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,600 Speaker 1: in the future and that's why for him this was 1620 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be hashtag resistance. I would just note 1621 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:11,519 Speaker 1: that we don't see this with other administrations, and it 1622 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,599 Speaker 1: is to the to the shame of those who engage 1623 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,840 Speaker 1: in it. And that is that once there's a new 1624 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,600 Speaker 1: once there's a new political regime, right, once you have 1625 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 1: a new administration that is in place, it is not 1626 01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 1: for the former administration's picks or it's personnel choices to 1627 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:37,880 Speaker 1: take it upon themselves to really defame the institutions that 1628 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,240 Speaker 1: they once were entrusted with. Those institutions really belong to 1629 01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:48,080 Speaker 1: the American people. These are not their playthings or their 1630 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:53,200 Speaker 1: own little platforms from which they can project their their careers. 1631 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 1: Right that that's not the way this is supposed to go. 1632 01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 1: And I would note that it's not just CFPB. You 1633 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:06,160 Speaker 1: have had this problem of stay behind Obama administration elements 1634 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 1: in a whole bunch of different parts of the executive branch, 1635 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,200 Speaker 1: and for example, look at the whole mass over comey. 1636 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 1: You can argue that the biggest single impediment for the 1637 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Trump administration this year has resulted. I think actually it's 1638 01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,560 Speaker 1: a pretty clear argument. I don't know if there's a 1639 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 1: good counter argument. It seems pretty obvious that the single 1640 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:40,639 Speaker 1: best uh or the single most effective means of slowing 1641 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,719 Speaker 1: down the Trump administration this year has been the stay 1642 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 1: behind so called deep state elements within the government. Because 1643 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Comey got the whole Mueller probe going, and Comy was 1644 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 1: an Obama appointee, right, so we know that we know 1645 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,479 Speaker 1: that Comy is an example of this, but and the 1646 01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: whole Rush investigation has been such a giant waste of 1647 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 1: time and energy and all the rest of it from 1648 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 1: the you know, from the perspective of trying to get 1649 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,400 Speaker 1: things done for the American people. It's just been a disaster. 1650 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,280 Speaker 1: It slows everything down. But the Mueller probe has just 1651 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,479 Speaker 1: been grinding on, and that's the results of a stay 1652 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 1: behind element within the government. The Environmental Protection Agency has 1653 01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,320 Speaker 1: had problems with this administration with some of its senior 1654 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,200 Speaker 1: appointed personnel, the obviously the CFPB at the top level. 1655 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:37,559 Speaker 1: It's it's reassuring, I think to hear that there were 1656 01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,600 Speaker 1: some Consumer Financial Protection Bureau folks who were like, what 1657 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,080 Speaker 1: is going on? Here, Mulvaney's running the show. The administration 1658 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,560 Speaker 1: put him in charge. Let's go, you know, that's it. 1659 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:51,400 Speaker 1: And it's just indicative of a of a mindset, and 1660 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 1: it's a mindset the media has fed into or in 1661 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 1: many ways created, which is that I think there are 1662 01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:01,679 Speaker 1: a lot of folks in this government who still delude themselves. Perhaps, 1663 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,680 Speaker 1: but when they go to sleep at night and they 1664 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,760 Speaker 1: don't really believe the president Trump is the president, they 1665 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:12,200 Speaker 1: think that this is some nightmare from which they will wake. 1666 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,800 Speaker 1: They think there's still a means by which they can 1667 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:23,559 Speaker 1: undo the events of the election last November one year 1668 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,120 Speaker 1: ago this month. They think that there's something that will 1669 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,680 Speaker 1: happen that will make this all end, and so they 1670 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:33,640 Speaker 1: haven't really made the psychological switch. It is a bizarre circumstance. 1671 01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 1: And yet here we are. Here we are the hashtag 1672 01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: resistance in the government is alive and well. Although I 1673 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: should note that Keith Olberman, he's he's a big hashtag 1674 01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 1: resist guy, not a government guy. But he's thrown in 1675 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 1: the talent. You gotta love this. He's done with his 1676 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:56,600 Speaker 1: little g Q psychotic rants about the president because he 1677 01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,560 Speaker 1: says that it's imminent that the president is going to 1678 01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 1: be impeached, which is just I I do feel kind 1679 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,080 Speaker 1: of bad even talking about it, because I understand that 1680 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 1: that's part of the that's part of the decision making 1681 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,800 Speaker 1: that they that he embarked on here. You know, it was, Hey, 1682 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just make a mockery of myself, but a 1683 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,040 Speaker 1: loud one on the way out to get more attention. 1684 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 1: It is really it speaks volumes that the Democrat media 1685 01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,720 Speaker 1: held this guy up for so long as some kind 1686 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 1: of words smith and political savant he is. I would 1687 01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 1: not I have told you before. There are other people that, 1688 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 1: for example MSNBC whom I've heard are good folks. You know, 1689 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 1: they're wrong on everything, but they're nice people. He's overmant 1690 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 1: to the opposite. I've heard from Democrats and Republicans who 1691 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,080 Speaker 1: have been around him and worked with him universally a 1692 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:52,960 Speaker 1: really bad, really bad, mean guy. But he's done because 1693 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,200 Speaker 1: he thinks that the impeachment's gonna come any day. Now. 1694 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, they might have some charges against Flynn, they 1695 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: might try to make an example of Flynn, and but 1696 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: it's not And once again, it's not going to do 1697 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 1: anything with the administration because there's nothing the administration did. 1698 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 1: Russia collusion is a fantasy. It is a delusion of 1699 01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 1: the left, and it's not going away, unfortunately, anytime soon. 1700 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,840 Speaker 1: And I think that whole notion of Russia collusion emboldens 1701 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 1: these deep state elements and these Obama leave behind at 1702 01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:28,280 Speaker 1: the CFPB, at the o J State Department, Environmental Protection Agency, 1703 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,559 Speaker 1: any number of places. It's a shame, really, because the taxpayer, 1704 01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: the American people, American citizens, we deserve better than government employees, who, 1705 01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, if they hate it so much, they can resign, 1706 01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,720 Speaker 1: but don't try to sabotage things from the inside. And 1707 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,000 Speaker 1: that's what some of them are doing. Alright, Team, we'll 1708 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,600 Speaker 1: be back with much more. Stay with me. I know 1709 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you listening have kids, and I was 1710 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 1: just thinking today about how I am tired all the 1711 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 1: time and and don't understand how so many of you 1712 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,640 Speaker 1: are able to function. Many of you have jobs and 1713 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,759 Speaker 1: have a large role in taking care of the kids, 1714 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 1: or just taking care of the kids all the time. 1715 01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. This is just 1716 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,800 Speaker 1: a random thought, but it's amazing to me. I don't 1717 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,240 Speaker 1: know how my parents did it. I don't know how 1718 01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,600 Speaker 1: all of you listening, did it. I really want to 1719 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,599 Speaker 1: have kids one day, but I just don't know how 1720 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 1: this how this is supposed to work. I guess I 1721 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of just would walk around in maybe I just 1722 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 1: need to get more sleep, but I feel like I'd 1723 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 1: be walking around in some kind of zombie like trance 1724 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,760 Speaker 1: or something. But hey, it means I get to have 1725 01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 1: a little cute Buck Jr. Or Bukita. No, that's bad, 1726 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. Has to come up with a 1727 01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,400 Speaker 1: better name for a little female the next generation of 1728 01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,680 Speaker 1: buck that is female. Buquita is uh is not going 1729 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,280 Speaker 1: to be good? Or Buckett. Now that's also not good. 1730 01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 1: So we'll come up with something else. But I just 1731 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,200 Speaker 1: it was a random thought today as I was struggling 1732 01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 1: to get through all the myriad things I had lined 1733 01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 1: of for the day. Those of you with kids, I 1734 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,200 Speaker 1: I tipped my at you. I don't know how you 1735 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,519 Speaker 1: do it. I'm worried even about what my day to 1736 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,679 Speaker 1: day would be like with a little furry companion, never 1737 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,600 Speaker 1: mind a human being that I am responsible for. So 1738 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 1: parents out there, Uh wow, I am I am in awe. 1739 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 1: I will just say it. I'm in awe all right now. 1740 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to get into a bit of the team 1741 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 1: Buck speaks here today on the show. It's always fun 1742 01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,280 Speaker 1: for me to read through all your messages and I 1743 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 1: like sharing them, and uh, here we go. Oh and 1744 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 1: I should note official Team Buck at gmail dot com 1745 01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:34,360 Speaker 1: or you can write to me at Facebook dot com 1746 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,759 Speaker 1: slash buck sexon All Right, here we go. Colin writes 1747 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,679 Speaker 1: in with the following, Hey, Buck, just wanted to wish 1748 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,840 Speaker 1: you best of luck in your hunt for a furry companion. 1749 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: Best advice I've received was this, Choosing some of the 1750 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,320 Speaker 1: more intelligent breeds is not always good. If you leave 1751 01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 1: a lab or German shepherd puppy in an apartment for 1752 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,120 Speaker 1: eight hours while you're at work, you come home to 1753 01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 1: a construction site, but a mastiff wouldn't even notice you left. 1754 01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,240 Speaker 1: I had a rot mastiff mix in an apartment and 1755 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,880 Speaker 1: it was awesome. The most important thing is to find 1756 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 1: one that's right for you and yours. Best wishes to 1757 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,760 Speaker 1: all the Freedom Hut team Shield time Ego Colin what 1758 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: Colin Shields? How to you? And thank you? And you 1759 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,519 Speaker 1: just reminded me of a story that I will now 1760 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,760 Speaker 1: tell you about how it is in fact necessary to 1761 01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:28,599 Speaker 1: choose the proper dog breed for your situation. I will 1762 01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,479 Speaker 1: say this was not my this was not my immediate family. 1763 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 1: This was a These were friends of the family that 1764 01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:41,160 Speaker 1: many years ago they chose to get in a pretty 1765 01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:48,360 Speaker 1: tight space New York City apartment. They got a Siberian husky, 1766 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, like a straight up sled dog out of 1767 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 1: the I guess, and huskies are sled ducks. But it 1768 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 1: looked like something from Call the Wild or White Fang 1769 01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 1: or one of those books. And it was beautiful animal 1770 01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,519 Speaker 1: that was kind of a reddish color, and it was 1771 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,719 Speaker 1: a husky. And there were two girls, two young girls 1772 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,320 Speaker 1: in the family and one of them And for those 1773 01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 1: of you listening, the only no, no human beings are 1774 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:18,080 Speaker 1: harmed in this story. But there there is a there 1775 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 1: is some animal stuff that happens that might make something 1776 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,479 Speaker 1: of you look a little bit sad. But I'm gonna 1777 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: tell you the story nonetheless because it's it's a public 1778 01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,439 Speaker 1: safety announced. But it's a warning about what can happen 1779 01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,080 Speaker 1: if you get the wrong kind of dog for your apartment. 1780 01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:31,800 Speaker 1: Right if you had to live in the countryside or 1781 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,680 Speaker 1: cold weather, you want to get a husky. Great, if 1782 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 1: you live in a one bedroom New York City apartment. 1783 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not the best idea, so I guess this was 1784 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,559 Speaker 1: a two better apartment. They get the husky. And there 1785 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,519 Speaker 1: was also at this point, because one of the girls 1786 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,560 Speaker 1: and the family is quite young, they there is a 1787 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 1: a class rabbit. Now I'm right, had a class rabbit 1788 01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:59,839 Speaker 1: named Thumper, uh like the rabbit from what's that where Bandy. 1789 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,519 Speaker 1: I don't remember this rabbit's name. I never met this rabbit, 1790 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 1: and not nearly as many people ended up meeting this 1791 01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:11,560 Speaker 1: rabbit as probably would have at events transpired differently. So 1792 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,280 Speaker 1: there was a class rabbit. I guess who was in 1793 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,920 Speaker 1: the kindergarten I think of of the school. And one 1794 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,639 Speaker 1: of the young girls decided that she would take home 1795 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,800 Speaker 1: the rabbit for the weekend, which you were allowed to do. 1796 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,880 Speaker 1: You were allowed to be in charge of the class 1797 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:31,360 Speaker 1: rabbit for the weekend. Now I had seen this Siberian husky, 1798 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:37,240 Speaker 1: this Siberian husky named Sonja. I had seen her in 1799 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:41,200 Speaker 1: action before. I had seen her leap up and seize 1800 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,559 Speaker 1: the entire carcass of a Thanksgiving turkey and getting massive 1801 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,200 Speaker 1: bones stuck in the roof of her mouth. And that was, 1802 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, volunteering for who is going to reach into 1803 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:55,040 Speaker 1: that wolf mouth? Was not That was not a fun thing. 1804 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:57,640 Speaker 1: And I had also seen her do something that was 1805 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:02,000 Speaker 1: always reminiscent to me of the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. 1806 01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 1: Remember that one scene. Jurassic Parks a great movie. I mean, 1807 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,559 Speaker 1: I know it's a little hokey in retrospect in some parts. 1808 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,000 Speaker 1: It's a great book by Michael Crichton, and the movie 1809 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:11,800 Speaker 1: really holds up the c g I is actually really 1810 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,680 Speaker 1: well done. But there's that scene where well, you've got 1811 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 1: that British guy of course, who was like, you know, 1812 01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:22,599 Speaker 1: the smarts, even problem solving smart, smartest chimpanzees maybe smart. 1813 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,640 Speaker 1: And then there's the whole scene where they go at 1814 01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 1: least unless they learn how to open doors, were fine? 1815 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:32,679 Speaker 1: Then a door opens. I had seen Sonya the dog 1816 01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,479 Speaker 1: go up on her hind legs and using her front 1817 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,479 Speaker 1: legs jimmy open a door handle. I had seen her 1818 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,360 Speaker 1: do this. Now, I'm not gonna lie to you. It's 1819 01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,320 Speaker 1: of those you are really smart dogs, like, yeah, my 1820 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,680 Speaker 1: dog can basically make me sushi and go out and 1821 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,000 Speaker 1: get the paper and negotiate a better price for me. 1822 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, okay, fine, but this dog was 1823 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,479 Speaker 1: the wild animal was able to open doors, and sure not. 1824 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 1: They brought home the rabbit for the weekend. They left 1825 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,400 Speaker 1: the apartment for some period of time, and they had 1826 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:08,240 Speaker 1: I believe, three no less than three closed but not 1827 01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 1: locked doors separating the cage. It was in a cage 1828 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:19,679 Speaker 1: of the class rabbit and the Siberian husky and Sonya, 1829 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 1: the husky who always reminded me a bit of the 1830 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:26,240 Speaker 1: wolf from the Peter and the Wolf. Uh what Operetta, 1831 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 1: you know children's musical that I listened to countless times 1832 01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:33,920 Speaker 1: actually growing up. Uh, Sonya the wolf had managed to 1833 01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 1: get through all three doors, and what that family came 1834 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 1: back to was a broken rabbit cage songs rabbit. The 1835 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 1: rabbit had become uh le pin the French dish, it 1836 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:52,920 Speaker 1: was no longer with us, had been eaten, and of 1837 01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:56,080 Speaker 1: course then this precipitated a series of panic phone calls 1838 01:49:56,160 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 1: to the teacher of this I believe kindergarten class that 1839 01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,240 Speaker 1: let's just call him Thumper, will make it easier that 1840 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,800 Speaker 1: Thumper had been eaten or Thumper had died. I don't 1841 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 1: know if she said, my My guess is that Thumper 1842 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,439 Speaker 1: had a mysterious heart attack. I'm not sure they went 1843 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,720 Speaker 1: with the Thumper had been eaten scenario because that's you know, 1844 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,760 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't left Thumper alone with the wolf babysitter. Uh. 1845 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,479 Speaker 1: But Thumper had a mysterious little heart attack. It was 1846 01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,639 Speaker 1: very sad, and they had to replace Thumper, and sure enough, 1847 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:33,719 Speaker 1: I believe they were able to replace the classroom rabbit 1848 01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,760 Speaker 1: with a rabbit that was similar looking. It was a 1849 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:41,479 Speaker 1: kind of a more rare rabbit species for pets, but 1850 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:42,920 Speaker 1: they were able to find one in New York here 1851 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,200 Speaker 1: in New York City and replace it. And I believe 1852 01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,360 Speaker 1: this was a very very long time ago. I mean 1853 01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 1: we're going on like twenty years plus. So anything any 1854 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 1: inaccuracies in my story, I just put it to memory. 1855 01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,560 Speaker 1: But I believe only one girl in the class was like, 1856 01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,120 Speaker 1: that's not Thumper, and the teacher was like, quiet, it 1857 01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 1: is Thumper. And so that is my story for all 1858 01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,519 Speaker 1: of you about how no your breed when you're picking 1859 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,800 Speaker 1: out a canine companion, go go with a go with 1860 01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 1: a smart choice. I realized I just took up a 1861 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,880 Speaker 1: lot of our of our time for four Team buck 1862 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,960 Speaker 1: Speaks with that one. But I did want to share 1863 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,720 Speaker 1: that story with you, So why don't I do this? 1864 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,000 Speaker 1: I will promise that tomorrow will get into a longer 1865 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:29,200 Speaker 1: team Buck speaks segment without me running off into uh 1866 01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,880 Speaker 1: never never land here with a story. I know you 1867 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,920 Speaker 1: can pour out a little we're out a little uh 1868 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,760 Speaker 1: wine or tequila tonight or whatever it is you drink. 1869 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 1: Those the only things that I drink for for Thumper 1870 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 1: no longer with us. For a long time, Thumber, he 1871 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be with us anyway. I mean, rabbits live for 1872 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,400 Speaker 1: how long do rabbits live? Rabbits live for like a 1873 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,479 Speaker 1: few years? I think maybe five or six, I don't know, 1874 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:53,519 Speaker 1: but that I always remember that story. I'll try to 1875 01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 1: think of some other. I've got some pretty funny dog 1876 01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:57,960 Speaker 1: stories over the years. Growing up here in New York City, 1877 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 1: You're You're around a lot of stuff. You see a 1878 01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of people that make very interesting choices for their 1879 01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 1: their habitat for their canine friend. 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I'll see you tomorrow, She'll tie