Speaker 1: What's going on everyone? I'm a Nissa Ferrera. Hey y'all,
Speaker 1: it's me Davon Rogers and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: We just watched the episode and now it's time to
Speaker 1: discuss what the hell a mess madness is. What just happened,
Speaker 1: Pure madness. But you know what, I love a good
Speaker 1: get your lick back, and that's exactly what Kelly Anne
Speaker 1: did this episode. She got her lick back, okay, because
Speaker 1: Mama went into that elimination and was like, no, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine, and she did what she needed
Speaker 1: to do. So shout out to both her and Grant.
Speaker 1: Somebody would have said my name, I probably would have
Speaker 1: herds them out down there. Or she slaid somebody the
Speaker 1: middle finger, Yes she did, and we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: who Kelly Anne gave the middle finger too. Yes, But
Speaker 1: before we get into all of that, you all know
Speaker 1: we have our little segment of the king or queen
Speaker 1: of the world as well as someone who was on
Speaker 1: another planet. Whore your picks for this week, Anissa, I
Speaker 1: don't know who my king or queen of the world
Speaker 1: would be, Okay, glor Reverse listen, Nellie was on another
Speaker 1: planet where there was no gravity. Um, poor baby. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't hear anybody when they were
Speaker 1: like stop stopping her, But that's what he did instead
Speaker 1: of the momentum like things in motion, stay in motion,
Speaker 1: like he should have went with that inertia and just
Speaker 1: push baby girl into the thing. Huie was just there,
Speaker 1: just like just like a little flailing pizza. She wanted
Speaker 1: to fly so bad. She looked at the other She
Speaker 1: looked at Killian like I want to do what she's doing.
Speaker 1: I want to do that. I want to be you
Speaker 1: when I grow up. But but Nelson knew how to
Speaker 1: run right in the middle. He got that part. He
Speaker 1: got that thing quick. I was like, come on, Nelson,
Speaker 1: but now, and you know, looking at this elimination, he
Speaker 1: was a little on the disadvantaged side, because height was
Speaker 1: your advantage in this in this thing. Um fran a
Speaker 1: little short here, a little short, and so you know,
Speaker 1: trying to run and hold the strap to sling her
Speaker 1: would have been better to swing her and then go
Speaker 1: behind her and try and push like her actual body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and get off the get off the string that was
Speaker 1: Her arms were short too, so well they don't they
Speaker 1: do it because it has to be able to be done.
Speaker 1: So if maybe they heightener. You know, they tested every
Speaker 1: single person in South Africa in the in like a
Speaker 1: twenty mile radius and said, hey, testers, we have this
Speaker 1: sized person and this sized person all the way up
Speaker 1: to theo's height. I'm gonna need you guys to all
Speaker 1: test out this one thing. Okay, do you have a
Speaker 1: king or a queen of the world. I mean, Grant
Speaker 1: did take two back to back, back to back. You
Speaker 1: ran it back back to back, and TJ made it known.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you gonna acknowledge Johnny at all? Right?
Speaker 1: He was like, and you did well as you did
Speaker 1: well as well. Look at you, Johnny, you were there too,
Speaker 1: Puzzle put some respect on my name. It's like we're
Speaker 1: all watching a different show. Sometimes I feel like we're
Speaker 1: not all seeing the same things. My king or queen
Speaker 1: of the world. It's actually Kelly in And I say
Speaker 1: that not because she won this elimination, but you know me,
Speaker 1: I love somebody that's confident and not afraid to show it.
Speaker 1: And she's having a conversation with Grant and she's telling
Speaker 1: he says, oh, you did great in elimination he's congratulating
Speaker 1: her for winning the elimination, and she says to him, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm a legend. So and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh right, okay, together, like, well, what you expect me?
Speaker 1: And I'm the ship. Yeah I'm here, aren't I. I
Speaker 1: thought that was so so so good. So she gets
Speaker 1: my Queen of the World this week. Planet I gotta
Speaker 1: give it to Nelson because I feel like friend had
Speaker 1: no strategy, Like I feel like he had no strategy.
Speaker 1: And then I also feel so bad because he tried
Speaker 1: to have a brave face for Hui, who's like super like, okay,
Speaker 1: it was fun right, right, and he's just like this
Speaker 1: challenge stuff means a lot to him, right, And so
Speaker 1: I think going in he had that mindset yet again,
Speaker 1: this is my chance, this is my time. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: win this money. And so to have it taken away
Speaker 1: from him again, and you know, you could see it
Speaker 1: in his face. So I mean, but I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: it's so much easier to go out in the beginning
Speaker 1: than at the end, Like, oh, you didn't even have
Speaker 1: to put in a lot of work, yet you've only
Speaker 1: done one challenge. Yeah, so it's it's not as bad
Speaker 1: and it wasn't Fetsy, So there's also that, so thank gosh, dramatic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not triggering. Well, we have a great interview for
Speaker 1: you today. We have Kelly Ann on and she has
Speaker 1: a ton of things she'd like to get off her chest.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she is going to spill the tea
Speaker 1: and tell us what really happened when we return after
Speaker 1: this break. Buckle up because it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: bumpy and when I say bumpey buffet bump by Flintstone bumpy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but dap a dude like I was sorry. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after this, all right, folks. It is that
Speaker 1: time in the podcast where we get to interview some
Speaker 1: on special from this season of the Global Championship. Today
Speaker 1: where it on the street is we have somebody who's
Speaker 1: been involved in a little bit of some stuff this episode.
Speaker 1: It's a very, very very Kelly Anne heavy episode and
Speaker 1: we are happy to have a year Kelly Anne to
Speaker 1: talk about what the hell happens. I was anxious this
Speaker 1: whole episode. Yeah, I mean yeah, I sweat a little
Speaker 1: bit watching it, just slightly. Um. But there were some funny,
Speaker 1: funny time moments too. You know, but those are good.
Speaker 1: Did you and John A? Well, clearly you guys have
Speaker 1: been friends and we were. We all did All Stars
Speaker 1: one together, so I think that's where the budding friendship
Speaker 1: came from, if I'm not mistaken. Um, did you guys
Speaker 1: walk into this game with a plan like we're friends,
Speaker 1: We're going to work together? No? No, we didn't. Um,
Speaker 1: we actually did not. On All Stars three, we did.
Speaker 1: It was the only person I came in with like
Speaker 1: a for sure worked other you know, like Kayla had
Speaker 1: message me like, hey, did you know help me out?
Speaker 1: I was like sure. But the only person I was
Speaker 1: like really like, I'm working with you was Kendall and
Speaker 1: which again I had to have that conversation with Kendall
Speaker 1: at the point. The only person I ever had a
Speaker 1: conversation with ever was John A for All Sorts three.
Speaker 1: But on this one, I just kind of felt like
Speaker 1: it was when you become close enough friends with someone,
Speaker 1: you just kind of you kind of know, you know,
Speaker 1: and and also though like there's times when you might not,
Speaker 1: even with a close friend, be able to help them out,
Speaker 1: and that is going to happen, so you know, like
Speaker 1: how Naya said, like, oh I love Kelly Am, but
Speaker 1: I'd prefer for Nelson to stay here because you don't
Speaker 1: know's team Argentina, and they were going to keep picking
Speaker 1: them off as an excuse. So in that situation, you know,
Speaker 1: I understand where that has to happen, but we didn't
Speaker 1: have a conversation beforehand. No, I definitely think it's like
Speaker 1: one of those things where like, you have your friends
Speaker 1: and in the beginning, the easy decision is to not
Speaker 1: vote them in, and then when it gets hard or later,
Speaker 1: there aren't many people to pick from, so then I
Speaker 1: could understand. I guess from your perspective, I mean, and
Speaker 1: just watching it not knowing, pretending that I don't know
Speaker 1: anyone on this show, but it I definitely seem to
Speaker 1: upset you, so do you. I don't think that friends
Speaker 1: shouldn't vote friends in. Um, you know, like you have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends on this show, Anissa, and gets
Speaker 1: kind of sticky in that situation. You might have your
Speaker 1: very very very best friends. You can still have a
Speaker 1: lot of good friends and eventually you're going to be
Speaker 1: in a situation where that happens, or you know, you
Speaker 1: could your good friend could have a teammate. It's just
Speaker 1: not going to work with you, like things happen absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, and to say, like I had said um
Speaker 1: on the show, I don't want to put my friends
Speaker 1: in a situation that hurts their game. That's why on
Speaker 1: episode two, I told Amber and Naia and I told Durell, like,
Speaker 1: you know, guys, I don't have the numbers, you can
Speaker 1: say my name. Because you don't, You're just gonna be
Speaker 1: putting a target on your back for absolutely no reason.
Speaker 1: So you know, like I don't take it like West.
Speaker 1: You know, I was worried that I was mad at him.
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad at him. He could have asked me beforehand,
Speaker 1: you know, but like he wasn't targeting me. He didn't
Speaker 1: you know, vote my name in. Like I know, I
Speaker 1: absolutely was not mad at him. For me, it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't have the numbers, you're not targeting me. It's okay,
Speaker 1: you can say me, but if I'm your friend and
Speaker 1: it really doesn't affect you in this early on in
Speaker 1: the game, yeah, it was. It's really fucked up. You know.
Speaker 1: I will say, like some people, some mistake and people
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, well, you have to cheat and
Speaker 1: lie to win these games, and you have to betray
Speaker 1: your friends to win these games. But I've never lost
Speaker 1: because I didn't betray my friends. I've lost because I'm
Speaker 1: not good at puzzles. I've lost because of bad luck
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I have never not made it to
Speaker 1: the end or lost because I was loyal as a friend.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, killy Anne, because you
Speaker 1: did say that you would never want someone that you
Speaker 1: care about, someone in general, to hurt their game in
Speaker 1: order to save you right, And you also said in
Speaker 1: this interview that you and John Ay never had any
Speaker 1: type of agreement coming into the house. It was an
Speaker 1: unspoken agreement on your end, but there was never a
Speaker 1: dialogue between the two of you. So why was it
Speaker 1: such a big issue for you that she could potentially
Speaker 1: say your name? Like? Why was it a situation where
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, the friendship is over if it happens.
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking that questions. I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of people might ask that. So again, for me and
Speaker 1: people that I normally would consider people I would be
Speaker 1: friends with, I don't have to tell anybody I won't
Speaker 1: say your name again in the beginning of a game.
Speaker 1: When it doesn't put my back against the wall in
Speaker 1: a very negative way, because that's just not how I play,
Speaker 1: and Johnny's and my friend for years, so she knows
Speaker 1: how I where I stand with that. But if she
Speaker 1: was to be like, hey, you, Kelly Anne said this
Speaker 1: ridiculous comment to Tori, which by the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize how bad that looked to watching it back last week,
Speaker 1: and I was like, bay of, So you know, if
Speaker 1: she even like it really puts the target back. Now.
Speaker 1: If I don't say you, because they're like really scared
Speaker 1: to trying to come after them, I would have my
Speaker 1: feelings her, but i'd be like, oh, thank you for
Speaker 1: explaining that. If you really think that means they're going
Speaker 1: to come up for you next. If you don't say me,
Speaker 1: which I don't like. I talked to all of them,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's what it is. I talked to
Speaker 1: every person on the USA team at some point after that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that would have happened. But if she
Speaker 1: really was like that's what they're telling me, dude, of course,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: John A, like I'm sorry I put us in that situation,
Speaker 1: you know, but on All Stars three, like I said
Speaker 1: we had an agreement, and later on I was during
Speaker 1: the show the whole time time. This is why, you know,
Speaker 1: John Aye had said I had some giving her quote
Speaker 1: weird vibes, and and she would be accurate. She you know,
Speaker 1: said it was because I was upset maybe that she
Speaker 1: had won, which again, I would never be upset for
Speaker 1: my friend winning. I wouldn't even They're like, I've had
Speaker 1: so many great friends, whether Evelyn or Jody or whoever,
Speaker 1: and I would never want the great strong competitors. I
Speaker 1: would never try to get rid of them because I
Speaker 1: think they could beat me in a final if they're
Speaker 1: my friends, because as we all know, you could be
Speaker 1: less of an athlete or less great puckles and still
Speaker 1: get lucky enough in a final to win, Like things
Speaker 1: happen all the time in finals. So I would rather
Speaker 1: if I don't win, my friend wins because I want
Speaker 1: her to do well. I want him to do well.
Speaker 1: I want to see them have their dreams because I
Speaker 1: fucking love them. I love my friends. So to finish
Speaker 1: the question that you asked on All Starts three, I
Speaker 1: was told many times that John A was working both sides,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I started to really recognize that myself,
Speaker 1: but I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: And at one point I was really pushed by other
Speaker 1: people from the other alliance, like Sylvia and different people
Speaker 1: that I needed to put john A in when I
Speaker 1: got the chance to vote or else if I didn't,
Speaker 1: because they were like, we're going to vote her in
Speaker 1: either way, so you might as well just put her
Speaker 1: in and like proved us that, like and then we'll
Speaker 1: be kind to you, we'll work with you. And I
Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not, Like if you want to say
Speaker 1: Johnny's name, you go ahead. I didn't think they would though,
Speaker 1: and by the way, so they didn't it. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not I'm not putting john A in.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying her name, even if it puts a
Speaker 1: target on my back, right and knowing she was working
Speaker 1: both sides at that point and so she saw my loyalty.
Speaker 1: Then after I finished the show, I saw how much
Speaker 1: she was working with him watching it back, and then
Speaker 1: I watched her talk bad about me to Kayla, and
Speaker 1: you know, saying I was eavesdropping like as if I
Speaker 1: could like hear a pass the Olympic sized pool, and
Speaker 1: that I was acting weird and that I was pretending
Speaker 1: to do yoga, like just really hurtful things. I didn't
Speaker 1: care if I heard the other girls talking about me.
Speaker 1: I really didn't. But when it came from john Ay,
Speaker 1: I just love her so much. It really hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1: And she immediately texts me when it came out, and
Speaker 1: she apologized, but I was a little hesitant at that point.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like you played me the whole time.
Speaker 1: I was loyal to you. Now for no reason you
Speaker 1: were talking that. Don't me saying I was scared of Kayla,
Speaker 1: like all these things, and I was so happy for
Speaker 1: you both times you won, Like I just it was
Speaker 1: really hurtful. And so I came on the show with
Speaker 1: my like guard up a little bit, being like, we'll
Speaker 1: just see how she treats me and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: So as soon as there was a question, I was like,
Speaker 1: it was for me. It was just like all of
Speaker 1: that coming up, and I was just like, boom, you
Speaker 1: don't fucking like me. You're faking me being my friend,
Speaker 1: which is really hurtful because I really do, to my detriment,
Speaker 1: really love so deeply. So and so that's where that
Speaker 1: hurt Prosodyeaody, I just want I wanted to understand if
Speaker 1: she really loved me as a human or she didn't
Speaker 1: playing me for years. That's all right. That's why in
Speaker 1: the scene when you guys are having the conversation when
Speaker 1: she tells you she has your back, whatever, you guys
Speaker 1: have that talk on the grass, That's why I cried.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you. Were you
Speaker 1: crying because she was telling you she wasn't gonna put
Speaker 1: you in game? Relate? Now? Were you crying because that
Speaker 1: kind of gave you some type of confirmation about your
Speaker 1: friendship with her. It gave me confirmation of a friendship
Speaker 1: where I was questioning it for about six months to
Speaker 1: a year, you know, So this is deeper than just
Speaker 1: this game. It was deep. Yeah, it was not the game.
Speaker 1: It was I don't I wasn't that worried about going in.
Speaker 1: I felt like maybe these all these fucking legends were
Speaker 1: just so great, and I was just proud to be there.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to go home that early,
Speaker 1: and I had a feeling that I could win, but
Speaker 1: I was like, like win the whole thing. But I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm just lucky to be here, what
Speaker 1: the feelings were and the anger before and the feelings
Speaker 1: of that you saw him and I started to tear up.
Speaker 1: Was just I needed confirmation that she was actually my friend,
Speaker 1: right right? Right? Um? Did you believe her when she
Speaker 1: told you after all was saying yeah, and she had
Speaker 1: a conversation with you and told you that she heard
Speaker 1: from someone that you shared the agree First of all,
Speaker 1: did you share the deal that you two met with
Speaker 1: anyone else? I didn't know. I didn't even tell my teammate.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell my teammate. I purposely acted like
Speaker 1: I thought I was going in all day possibly, and
Speaker 1: I prepared myself mentally because even if she would didn't
Speaker 1: say my name or granted it's my name. With these shows,
Speaker 1: you just never know if they're gonna be like surprised
Speaker 1: you're going in anyways, why I was still mentally prepared
Speaker 1: to go in. Um, but no man like I. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I thought I was like man because she
Speaker 1: even said, you're gonna see me have conversations with a
Speaker 1: bunch of people today. I just want to know where
Speaker 1: all their heads are it so I can get an
Speaker 1: idea for the whole you know, the rest of the game,
Speaker 1: which is very smart. And she's like, but don't worry, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not putting you in. You have nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1: Grant will listen to what I say, right, And I
Speaker 1: was like, good, got it. And then there was this
Speaker 1: like point one percent, like I said, this is point
Speaker 1: one where I was like, wouldn't that be fucking crazy?
Speaker 1: If not? Like, nah, keep that out of your head.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't happen. I was like, but it could. You know?
Speaker 1: Did you know about the Nelly harrising? No? He told
Speaker 1: me after it's stilly funny. It was really silly watch
Speaker 1: because it's Nellie. Well now, yeah, like he was doing
Speaker 1: something like he was like fucking James Bond. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: I put my hair up this way and I have
Speaker 1: one days dangling in the front. You know that I
Speaker 1: want Kelly Anne and Tristan down long and luxury my
Speaker 1: nostrils this much right right. It was hilarious. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it. The thing is is, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: why are you getting nels and full brains that choose
Speaker 1: you know again? You know? But also will it takes
Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off the person if they can
Speaker 1: add in the fact. Yeah, yeah, but I've done it.
Speaker 1: People have done it. It's one hundred percent. Oh no,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But not when you tell your friend, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say your name to my or what
Speaker 1: you say, Hey, I'm gonna give Nelson the choice, or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like figure it out as we go, or
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know till we're out there. That's what
Speaker 1: you said. You if Jennie would have just come to
Speaker 1: you and said which I thought she did when she
Speaker 1: when you originally had the very first conversation right in
Speaker 1: the room where she said that you attacked her. You
Speaker 1: came in and attacked her, right, I want to get
Speaker 1: your later, yes, But in that conversation I felt that
Speaker 1: she basically let you know she doesn't know what she's
Speaker 1: gonna do, and it can go either way. I think
Speaker 1: that was her giving you a heads up that she
Speaker 1: could possibly put you in. But your response was a
Speaker 1: little like what do you mean? Like we're friends, and
Speaker 1: you kept pushing the friend agenda, the friend friend friend friend,
Speaker 1: And so my question to you is if she would
Speaker 1: have just came to you straight on and been like, look,
Speaker 1: you're going in, would you have respected that more? Or
Speaker 1: would that have put added fuel to the fire. Well,
Speaker 1: I fothered out that myself a lot. Um, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had a fuel to the fire. No, it would
Speaker 1: have been better than what I had been version. Um,
Speaker 1: if it was a different situation, if it was Kendall
Speaker 1: or something a Nissa, you know something, I would have
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, okay, you had to be honest with me.
Speaker 1: You had to tell me why. Okay, you can just
Speaker 1: be like because I don't give a buck about you,
Speaker 1: that's not but like you're like, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: You put trk in your back. You made it clear
Speaker 1: that you're not scared to go, you know, say someone
Speaker 1: BIG's name. Like obviously when I was saying someone big,
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about her and Grant. I didn't look
Speaker 1: at them as a big team. I looked at the
Speaker 1: mine like, yeah, they're good, but I didn't think they
Speaker 1: were the best, and I didn't think they were the scariest.
Speaker 1: And I wanted her at the end anyway. So again,
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't have mattered. Um, But you know, if
Speaker 1: she would have said that, I think if it was
Speaker 1: a different situation, I would have been super like, I
Speaker 1: don't no matter why. I've been like bummed out a little,
Speaker 1: but I would have been upset and she said maybe
Speaker 1: so she would have just gave you. I wasn't spirling
Speaker 1: a fucking all. I was not even little bit. I
Speaker 1: finished when you guys want me to, when you want
Speaker 1: me to answer, I'll about you let me oh, okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Well no, so I wasn't spiraling like if
Speaker 1: you want to say I was spiraling because of getting
Speaker 1: put in. No, I was maybe holding in all of
Speaker 1: the feelings of dude, you've been fucking playing you this time.
Speaker 1: I kept sticking up for you. Then I watched you
Speaker 1: talk mad shit for no reason about me. Then I
Speaker 1: forgave you. And now the first chance you had to
Speaker 1: protect me, you're not like that might have been a
Speaker 1: spiral of like me just trying to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm already fucking done with this. And if you would
Speaker 1: have her being if she would have had to say
Speaker 1: my name and like you asked me like, would I've
Speaker 1: been okay with it? If she did, I just had
Speaker 1: to say, look, this is we can put charmer on
Speaker 1: your back. Yeah, I would have been better. It would
Speaker 1: have still hurt me, absolutely, it would have still put
Speaker 1: a bigger question mark and if we were ever really friends,
Speaker 1: whereas if it was like Kendall or one of my
Speaker 1: other regular friends who hadn't all already hurt me, I
Speaker 1: would have handled it very differently. Yeah, So, speaking of
Speaker 1: spiraling or lack thereof, there was a conversation that happened
Speaker 1: with Tristan and a couple of the other girls where
Speaker 1: the girls were calling you intense because of the way
Speaker 1: that you were behaving. How did you feel going back
Speaker 1: watching that scene. Yeah, I don't know, you know, I
Speaker 1: I will say that I feel like it needs to
Speaker 1: probably knows about me. There are times where I'm always
Speaker 1: surprised by how I'm coming across. Okay, Sometimes I just
Speaker 1: come right to the point and I think that people
Speaker 1: look at it in a way that isn't how I intended.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I say things where I'm just like yeah, like
Speaker 1: even just now, and you're like okay, I was like, no, man,
Speaker 1: there I go again, Like I just don't know exactly,
Speaker 1: and I'm just I am an intense person. At times,
Speaker 1: I'm very bubbly and cute and like everything's free and butterflies,
Speaker 1: and then there's this other high of me that's like
Speaker 1: but when I think like this, like this is how
Speaker 1: I think, and you know, I'm always open to hearing
Speaker 1: out people's thoughts. Yeah, but I'm also I'm direct, and
Speaker 1: I think it does come across wrong sometimes. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to go all the way back because we have
Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that you have a partner. Right,
Speaker 1: You're not playing this game just as Kelly and by yourself.
Speaker 1: You have a partner. Two questions One, how did it
Speaker 1: feel being picked last on a scale of one to ten?
Speaker 1: How annoyed were you that you were picked last? And
Speaker 1: then also also how do you feel about Tristan being
Speaker 1: your partner? How did you feel at that time? I
Speaker 1: wasn't annoyed at all that I was picked last. I
Speaker 1: knew as since there were rumors days before like oh
Speaker 1: they might be able to pick who's their partner. And
Speaker 1: I immediately was like, oh, that's gonna fucking fuck, you know,
Speaker 1: because like I assumed from the star, I get picked last.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm one of the older women in
Speaker 1: the house. I have never won, and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot lighter and shorter than a lot of other women,
Speaker 1: and they're all just straight muscle, you know, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was you know, I was.
Speaker 1: I was from It was like, and I'm not good
Speaker 1: at sell him myself. They're like, what are you good at? Like,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm not good at, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So so I wasn't. I wasn't surprised
Speaker 1: by it, but um, I've never been picked last before.
Speaker 1: But I've also never for myself in a situation where
Speaker 1: I had to get picked for anything. Um, So that
Speaker 1: wasn't annoyed. But I was like, all right, everyone knows
Speaker 1: my fear and it just happened. But at least I
Speaker 1: got that over with having Tristan as a partner. UM.
Speaker 1: I thought I got very lucky because he did win UK.
Speaker 1: He it seems quite an athletic and he was easy
Speaker 1: to talk to it. I had had some conversations with
Speaker 1: him just about life beforehand, and I felt like he
Speaker 1: was very similar to me and the things that he
Speaker 1: cared about. UM, I didn't want him to get like
Speaker 1: at one point, I was like, ma, hash, I just
Speaker 1: go home. You'll be set, dude, But why would you
Speaker 1: do yourself? I feel like I didn't feel ready. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel ready. Yeah, but you're you're you think these things.
Speaker 1: I think that you're good at it just naturally and
Speaker 1: there's like a fire in you and I want to
Speaker 1: like do well where it's like you'll say that you
Speaker 1: can't or your doubt or whatever, and then I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not in shape for this or I'm going through this,
Speaker 1: and you still manage to do it. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. So it's like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't care if if you say whatever. I know what
Speaker 1: you're capable of. So I really do appreciate that. I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't done anything except for leaving you with a
Speaker 1: lot of what ifs and not being able to save
Speaker 1: all of the dogs in the world. Yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: think when you say that you weren't ready that when
Speaker 1: you say that you weren't ready, do you think it's
Speaker 1: because mentally you're still kind of or you were still
Speaker 1: kind of locked into All Star three? Yeah, girl, I
Speaker 1: think I was. I think I had just done so
Speaker 1: poorly at that final. I was really sick on All
Speaker 1: Stars three to night and I've been still battling with
Speaker 1: some of that and goes some waves and um, and
Speaker 1: I just said so poorly that you know, doing that
Speaker 1: bad and then getting picked last and then doing second
Speaker 1: to last on the challenge. I was like, year, I'll
Speaker 1: throw your raging and you know, you know, know your limits,
Speaker 1: you know. So um I was. I was a little
Speaker 1: beat down on myself for sure, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that's why I was like spiraling to stay in. I
Speaker 1: was almost like, you guys should get me out of here.
Speaker 1: Let me have a good partner, you know. Um. With Tristan,
Speaker 1: I was concerned because he didn't get that puzzle, which
Speaker 1: is why he came in last. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know it'd be great. It's like it was the
Speaker 1: he wasn't good at, but I'm really good at yeah,
Speaker 1: but hopefully the future and I'm good at some puzzles
Speaker 1: like it. But you know, it's just under pressure in general,
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not my strong suit. So you know,
Speaker 1: that was a lot. We need to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: just real quick, a little bit. Okay, don't go anywhere,
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. Well, let's get into
Speaker 1: this elimination, because I have many questions about this, this elimination, Kelly.
Speaker 1: And this made me think of bloodlines. When you had
Speaker 1: to stack the things I thought the same thing. Did
Speaker 1: it trigger you a bit like off? Because that was
Speaker 1: I think I was happy I don't have to stack,
Speaker 1: because you know, like that was so silly, the stacking thing,
Speaker 1: because I was beating Jenna the whole time and then
Speaker 1: literally she just did and I put too much thought
Speaker 1: into it, and I was like, oh, I put this
Speaker 1: on to off with it, and then I'm a little shorter,
Speaker 1: so it'll talk to me. At least the trusting can
Speaker 1: stack things and push things. Yeah, yeah, that definitely yeah,
Speaker 1: And there was definitely a way that who he could
Speaker 1: have held her body. She was really kind of far
Speaker 1: back on it and flopping around, so it didn't help.
Speaker 1: But no help help to when he stopped it every time. No,
Speaker 1: but he the reason he kept stopping it too is
Speaker 1: because um, yes he was doing it stupid as well,
Speaker 1: but also sometimes you got to stop it because she'd
Speaker 1: be going in the other direction and um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's like I'm like, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: get to know exactly what the game is when we choose,
Speaker 1: but like you can we walk in and you can
Speaker 1: see it's a hype thing and there's like a swing
Speaker 1: and I was like, I could probably and I would.
Speaker 1: Just before we got anything, I was like, I bet
Speaker 1: you most likely I can beat any lest anybody here
Speaker 1: for whatever this is with my tall ass partner and
Speaker 1: my long arms and long, you know, tight body. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be good my lightweight. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good at this. And and I think
Speaker 1: that if he would have chosen Jody and Ben huh,
Speaker 1: I know why that makes sense why they didn't want to.
Speaker 1: But if he was like, oh, I'm just gonna wait
Speaker 1: and see what it is, it's like, you gotta whatever
Speaker 1: that is. You know, their weight is a lot more
Speaker 1: similar in size, so and then has a lot shorter.
Speaker 1: So it's just to me, it was like, what could
Speaker 1: it have been that you would have ever chose Ben
Speaker 1: haw and Jody? If it was if you saw this
Speaker 1: and you chose us, that definitely was one of my
Speaker 1: questions because you can tell that height and armspan played
Speaker 1: a major part in this eliminius. Like there were times
Speaker 1: when am I saying her name right? HAHOI yeah, she
Speaker 1: was reaching, I did it. There were times when she
Speaker 1: was reaching and she wasn't even close like at all,
Speaker 1: And and of course we needed Nelsonson, but him even
Speaker 1: he's short, so trying to swing her it was just
Speaker 1: like it was a total disadvantage from him. And then
Speaker 1: the strategy was off to strategy you and Tristan. What
Speaker 1: was the strategy? Was it just swing me and let
Speaker 1: me go? Um? Yeah, So he had to make sure
Speaker 1: the same thing, he'd get enough space from behind push forward.
Speaker 1: That was like twifting his rift because that's when you
Speaker 1: start to swing to the side too much, right, And
Speaker 1: for me, I had to kind of like when you're
Speaker 1: on a regular swing, but you're now laying straight. You
Speaker 1: had to really move my weight like with the swing.
Speaker 1: So as you go back, I'd go back and I'd
Speaker 1: swing my body forward and I'd helped push you go
Speaker 1: further and I'd put my arms as straight as i could,
Speaker 1: my legs back as far as I cook. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to push through and you would in a swing
Speaker 1: when you when you swing up on a regular swing,
Speaker 1: you push your legs up as straight as you can
Speaker 1: and then you push them back. You know, very similar. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you in in mid swing, as you guys, it's obvious
Speaker 1: that you're winning. Right in mid swing, you look into
Speaker 1: the crowd and you give somebody the middle finger was
Speaker 1: that specific or universal, but um, I think it was universal.
Speaker 1: I definitely was not to John Day. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember doing that. I'm sure it was just to everyone
Speaker 1: in the place for for fucking saying my name. But
Speaker 1: I mean literally after the nominations, like going, oh, so
Speaker 1: stress up the nominations, I had like five different teams
Speaker 1: come up to me and be like, girl, you were
Speaker 1: I was thinking jokes the whole time. They were like,
Speaker 1: you were so funny, thanks for making that so easy.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it, Like I was, really and as
Speaker 1: much as I kept my name called by people the
Speaker 1: whole time, I was really enjoying the house. I really
Speaker 1: like the people. I was like, fuck you guys gonna
Speaker 1: say me, but like I'm enjoying around all of you,
Speaker 1: and I think they were enjoying thing around me as well.
Speaker 1: So I was having a good fun You can say
Speaker 1: my name if you don't promise me you will, and
Speaker 1: I can take it and we'll still be friends and
Speaker 1: we'll still have a good laugh afterwards for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So where are you and John A? Now we're okay,
Speaker 1: we're on speaking terms, we're friends. We're friends, but it's
Speaker 1: not the same. I think it's still fresh. You know,
Speaker 1: we're still I need to hang out there outside the show.
Speaker 1: On the show, I would say I can't imagine ever
Speaker 1: trusting her because well, I mean, even talking to her recently,
Speaker 1: she's not like, She's like, oh that was it wasn't
Speaker 1: appropriate for me not to tell until the end after
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't send any of that. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I feel like having someone like your word means something
Speaker 1: in life. In the game it means something or else.
Speaker 1: Everyone would just lie all the time, and you know
Speaker 1: it doesn't that doesn't make any sense. So in the
Speaker 1: game I couldn't. I don't think anyone should probably trust
Speaker 1: her because you can't believe she's actually gonna do what
Speaker 1: she says. That's a pretty big deal. But in life
Speaker 1: I still love her. I love her children, you know,
Speaker 1: I really I like talking to her. So I had
Speaker 1: this friend growing up. She would always hit on my
Speaker 1: boyfriend and she she was just hippie chick and it
Speaker 1: was totally appropriate. I don't think she'd ever do anything.
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't a regular girl, i'd be like, girl, like,
Speaker 1: I can't be friends with you. You just being totally inappropriate.
Speaker 1: But with this particular woman, I was like, that's just
Speaker 1: who you are and and I love you nonetheless, and
Speaker 1: so I kind of feel like it's just an is similar.
Speaker 1: It's like very different in what I'm talking about, but
Speaker 1: simire the fact that you're like, I probably wouldn't put
Speaker 1: up with anybody. But John as owned that, like this
Speaker 1: is how she plays the game, and I don't as
Speaker 1: long as you I don't catch her talking bad about
Speaker 1: me like she did with Kayla, like that just again
Speaker 1: was so unnecessary and painful for me as a friend
Speaker 1: to watch, But um yeah, I just wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: probably be her alliant in the game, but I'm I'm
Speaker 1: still her friend outside the game until she tells me
Speaker 1: that like she just doesn't want to be right. I
Speaker 1: totally get it, though. I get it because there are
Speaker 1: certain people like I really like them and I like
Speaker 1: spending time with them, but I don't like the way
Speaker 1: they play. So I you then have to kind of
Speaker 1: like it's just a game. So in the game, like
Speaker 1: I love who you can hang out, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: play differently. And then outside the game, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: drinks and go to dinner. And be friends. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it totally time until after the show was over
Speaker 1: to forgive her. Like actually, as the show was continuing on,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I got more and more angry, Like
Speaker 1: it was like festering more like emotions. Do you ever
Speaker 1: rebably have a breakup and then like after like my
Speaker 1: last break was so bad that like a year afterwards,
Speaker 1: I would just have things pop into my head and
Speaker 1: be like that motherfucker, you know, And I felt like
Speaker 1: that's kind of what this one was. Like my heart
Speaker 1: healing and accepting like all the things that I had
Speaker 1: been ignoring, and I was like, this pisses me off,
Speaker 1: this hurt me, this hurt me, hurt this for me,
Speaker 1: And so it was like I kind of got more
Speaker 1: angry for a little while. But then once I was
Speaker 1: able to like heal from that pain, I was able
Speaker 1: to forgive her, truly you And but then now like
Speaker 1: I actually do forgive her, I don't understand that tactic.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, I've never not won because I
Speaker 1: was a loyal friend. I never didn't make it to
Speaker 1: the end because I was a loyal friend. So to
Speaker 1: use as an excuse, it's just an excuse. Danny had
Speaker 1: made a statement that he's noticing in his opinion that
Speaker 1: the house is more so the friendship aligned as opposed
Speaker 1: to the country alliance. Right, would you say that there
Speaker 1: is a clear division? Was there a clear division inside
Speaker 1: of the house. Yeah, I think that it worked out.
Speaker 1: Danny was kind of doing his own thing compared to
Speaker 1: a lot of us, for sure. Yeah. The countries were
Speaker 1: really just an excuse for people to be able to
Speaker 1: target you a certain way or for you to have
Speaker 1: that like built in alliance. And I think that like
Speaker 1: using that to your advantage was smart. But when you
Speaker 1: start off with lust players like Argentina or UK, it's
Speaker 1: like you can use it, you know, only so far
Speaker 1: and U. But USA was so strong and they had
Speaker 1: real friends like you have Casey and Tori, right, they're
Speaker 1: real friends. And yeah, Bananas, he's a real friend. Theo's
Speaker 1: a real friend. So you're like, your country's your friend,
Speaker 1: but you also have that. Then Tor also has her
Speaker 1: outside that like Jordan and I don't know who else,
Speaker 1: but she was very protected by her country and by
Speaker 1: outside of it. So you know, Danny, he was really
Speaker 1: he was really like he had a lot of thoughts
Speaker 1: judgments on people's close friendships because he wasn't really aware
Speaker 1: of them, and the academy to the commers too many people,
Speaker 1: but people also fall out on their own, like you
Speaker 1: can protect him and they still go in and go home.
Speaker 1: So it's like he was a little paranoid when really
Speaker 1: I think he should have been appreciative of how connected
Speaker 1: his partner was. Oh, okay, because she was. You know,
Speaker 1: we spoke a little bit about it earlier, and I
Speaker 1: just kind of wanted to tap in and ask you,
Speaker 1: a girl, the conversation that you had in the room
Speaker 1: with Tori where you mentioned that someone from USA needed
Speaker 1: to go home. Now, did you forget that Danny was
Speaker 1: her partner? You really didn't care? Absolutely? Uh, that's solid
Speaker 1: question to talk about. Um. Yeah, exactly. Um, because it's
Speaker 1: funny because Jody's like, she's Team USA. But I was
Speaker 1: talking to Tory and I said, I said, I refer
Speaker 1: to her as part of the USA. I said, you
Speaker 1: guys are the strongest. I was what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I know, it's you your USA, you know. Um, But
Speaker 1: that was actually at that point, yes, it was my
Speaker 1: That's where I said I screwed up. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember doing that until I watched and I was like yeah, um.
Speaker 1: But Tory brought it up later and I was like, girl,
Speaker 1: I don't know you're talking about And I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I did. Um. But that was because I
Speaker 1: had already talked to to Bananas and I had already
Speaker 1: talked to West, And you know, we have less than
Speaker 1: ten minutes to get back from the Challenge shower eat
Speaker 1: do nominations, and then you got to be ready in
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to go out that night, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm and you have to have this conversation. So it's
Speaker 1: like you look like your frantic, but really you're like,
Speaker 1: I got four minutes to do this. Of course I'm
Speaker 1: fucking frantic. I can't even clay him four minutes and
Speaker 1: so ill and so um. I go in there room
Speaker 1: right next mind, I'm like, Bananas was the plant and
Speaker 1: Banana's I haven't been close friends. We had never really
Speaker 1: worked together, but we've grown up in a friendship as well,
Speaker 1: at not a real friendship, but like there is a
Speaker 1: friendship there. We have a love over all families. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me know, like what's the plan. I'll
Speaker 1: follow your lead And he's like, not telling me. You know,
Speaker 1: I've talked to my teammate. It's like, oh, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: really gonna You're not gonna tell your teammates telling you
Speaker 1: what to do? Come on, um, And I know, like
Speaker 1: the solid thing you should know want to challenge is
Speaker 1: if you're not having the game the plan talked to you,
Speaker 1: it's because the plan is you. Yeah. So as soon
Speaker 1: as the plan was not talked to me, I go, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm the plan. That's why I was like, okay, got it.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, oh no, Johnny, like what's the plan?
Speaker 1: And I was kind of my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: why the fuck is Johnny even in here right now?
Speaker 1: She's not even part like you know, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why why are we having this conversation? Is that Johnny,
Speaker 1: She's the person choosing like right like it just like
Speaker 1: don't fuck off guys, And so I knew at that
Speaker 1: point it was me. And then I was being told
Speaker 1: by Team UK and Australia like, oh, everyone wants to
Speaker 1: put Tristan in because he had lost the time before
Speaker 1: and he got like a free out, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: put him as an excuse because he didn't have to
Speaker 1: go compete the time before four and then you guys
Speaker 1: came second to let Yeah, yeah, it was even they said,
Speaker 1: they're like, this is an easy tactic. That's why we're
Speaker 1: gonna say it. So I at that point it wasn't
Speaker 1: because I was saying Team US said they were already
Speaker 1: choosing me. Then that's why I'm looking so like disgrunted, disgruntled.
Speaker 1: I don't know, um in my bedroom with Jordans and
Speaker 1: Tory because you know, I'm sitting right there, Jody's there.
Speaker 1: They're probably just talk to Jody about what to do.
Speaker 1: And now I'm they're packing my shit up, getting my
Speaker 1: things ready, and they're like, what do you think Kelliott.
Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, fuck, do you mean? What
Speaker 1: do I think? I know what I think? You guys
Speaker 1: are putting me in right, you know. And so that's
Speaker 1: when I was like, well, I think fucking usa she
Speaker 1: go in because I was like, you're already sucking saying
Speaker 1: my name right, you know. So my problem is like
Speaker 1: people call me a loose cannon. I don't agree. I'm
Speaker 1: not a loose cannon. If you watch All Stars. Both
Speaker 1: times I was on it, I kept my mouth fucking shut,
Speaker 1: even when I kept having my peel being complete assholes
Speaker 1: to me the whole time, like kept getting you know,
Speaker 1: talked about and put it, talking about being put in,
Speaker 1: and I stayed calm so I wouldn't call myself a
Speaker 1: loose and I'd say that I do speak too much
Speaker 1: sometimes when I have high emotions or someone ask me
Speaker 1: a direct question and I have not I've sometimes it's
Speaker 1: like forty percent of the time I'm able to just
Speaker 1: be like no, no, I'll keep it to myself. And
Speaker 1: then there's like there's sixty percent of the time where
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, I just say something stupid.
Speaker 1: And I could have just been like, oh, I understand
Speaker 1: if you guys like what I said to Amber and
Speaker 1: all of them, like you guys, just say my name,
Speaker 1: don't play target in your back. But if I should
Speaker 1: have just probably looking back when Tori and Jordan asked me,
Speaker 1: I should just say, what do you guys want to do?
Speaker 1: I'm open to whatever, and if it has to be me,
Speaker 1: then I'll take it on the chin and I understand,
Speaker 1: you know. But instead I was like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say your names because everyone's just trying to like stay
Speaker 1: another week, but like you guys have the strongest fucking
Speaker 1: team is strong. And I wasn't saying I was gonna
Speaker 1: say Tori. I was saying, let's choose someone like Bananas
Speaker 1: or something, someone that is a I would say Banana. Say.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm gonna say someone's name. I don't have
Speaker 1: the numbers, but be aware, I'm going to stay one
Speaker 1: of your names. That's all long answer. Sorry, So now
Speaker 1: you've won the elimination. Congratulations, You've won this elimination, and
Speaker 1: now you're going back into the house. You and Jane
Speaker 1: have this whole conversation, and now my question is what
Speaker 1: is the plan for Kelly Yanne? And that rhymed I
Speaker 1: know in an accident, but I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: What is the plan for Kelly Yanne? Like? Who do
Speaker 1: you feel like you need to link up with? People
Speaker 1: have shown their cards in this little amount of time.
Speaker 1: What are you going to do strategically moving forward? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I was It was kind of
Speaker 1: what I said. I was just gonna wait and see.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how I've always played the game.
Speaker 1: I just like to wait and see. I just was
Speaker 1: hoping that I could have stayed out of it from
Speaker 1: the beginning. But um, I knew that once my name
Speaker 1: was put in, it would probably likely be put in again.
Speaker 1: I was going to continue to tell Bananas and West
Speaker 1: and Tory and whoever I need to, like, Hey, you
Speaker 1: guys want to group me into you all take all
Speaker 1: of reliance and willing to pick me up. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to target Johnny because I didn't think that,
Speaker 1: like being vengeful would be very good for my game.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't going to protect her. And Okay, so,
Speaker 1: like I said, I came into the house with me
Speaker 1: with weird vibes. Let me explained that better. On the
Speaker 1: very first like a couple of days that we're all
Speaker 1: getting to know each other, john NYE comes up to
Speaker 1: me or is in front of me and two other
Speaker 1: girls from like UK and Australia, and she was like, Kelly,
Speaker 1: and if I ever lied to you, and like she
Speaker 1: had lied to me, Mary told you she had lied
Speaker 1: to me and all Stars three and I didn't. I
Speaker 1: was never going to tell anyone that you couldn't trust
Speaker 1: her like I was. I gave her. I was giving
Speaker 1: her a second chance, you know. So I was not
Speaker 1: going to share that with anybody. But then she asked
Speaker 1: me to vouch for her, and I just thought, like,
Speaker 1: why are you asking me to vouch for you when
Speaker 1: you know you had just lied to me and I'm
Speaker 1: still kind of uncertain about you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Podcast last week she did? Did she? Yeah? Oh? Man? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she's like, I'm like, what that's funny. So I
Speaker 1: was like, why would you ask me to vouch for
Speaker 1: you when I'm still just trying to make sure that
Speaker 1: you're someone that I can trust, you know, And so
Speaker 1: I I was like, uh, you know, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about this in front of them. And
Speaker 1: she was like, well, what do you mean you know?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I mean, like you did
Speaker 1: tell me one thing and do another, and I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at you, It's okay, but like I'm not. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have misled me, that's you know. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't but again, I don't want to talk. Can
Speaker 1: we not have the conversation in front of other people?
Speaker 1: It's like, you want to talk about it, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it, but not here, and um, the girl's like
Speaker 1: we'll walk away. They walked away, and then you know,
Speaker 1: she started to tear up, which I thought was kind
Speaker 1: of peculiar, and she's like, I just feel and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's okay, like you know, but she
Speaker 1: hadn't drinking, so I thought maybe she was just a
Speaker 1: little drunk. And I was like, do you want to
Speaker 1: have this conversation like upstairs, and socially did and it
Speaker 1: started off like with her being like apologetic, but then
Speaker 1: it turned into like okay, then she got you know,
Speaker 1: like more like upset, and then I just let's just call, like,
Speaker 1: we don't have to go in circles, let's just stop
Speaker 1: the conversation. We're fine, you know, like I just let's
Speaker 1: move on. So later on, when she's telling Casey like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think Kelly An's upset because you know, I won
Speaker 1: a couple, which again just makes no faking sense. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, she's just trying to prepare everybody that
Speaker 1: she's going to do something dirty to me because she's
Speaker 1: realizing that, like by having me here, I might dirty
Speaker 1: her name. And again I never would have wanted to
Speaker 1: do that to her. I just didn't want to. I
Speaker 1: just also didn't want to vouch for her, and so
Speaker 1: I knew that even though I didn't coming back to
Speaker 1: the house. I didn't want to try to go after her.
Speaker 1: I also knew that now she was probably gonna start
Speaker 1: making up rumors about me, whether it's that I'm stressed
Speaker 1: or crazy or whatever, because like, oh, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to really worry about kelly An's vengeance. Like Okay, when
Speaker 1: did you guys ever seen me like other than I'm
Speaker 1: talking shit to the guys back in like two thou
Speaker 1: and ten, Like when have I ever like come back
Speaker 1: with a vengeance? Like, yeah, I'm not, that's not me.
Speaker 1: I forgive a lot, I will not forget, and I'll
Speaker 1: do what I have to do in the game, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go be vengeful. So it was like
Speaker 1: I was, I was concerned that by me being there,
Speaker 1: even if I didn't come after her, she wasn't sure
Speaker 1: what I was going to do, and therefore as afraid
Speaker 1: she was going to say things about me that could
Speaker 1: have been detrimental to my game. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: here we go. We're just gonna have to see how
Speaker 1: this game plays out. Right. So for clarity, because again
Speaker 1: we did talk about this on the last episode of
Speaker 1: the podcast, you were uncomfortable with that conversation, because question mark,
Speaker 1: because the way it was presented to us was almost
Speaker 1: and I don't want to put words in her mouth,
Speaker 1: but almost as if you were trying to sabotage her
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Yeah, that makes sense, That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of how she started to address it afterwards. And absolutely not, No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I never ever would have come. I would
Speaker 1: have never done it. First off, if I was gonna
Speaker 1: sat her someone when I do behind their back, But no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gone to her face and just started
Speaker 1: like talking crap about her character to these people. I
Speaker 1: just didn't, like, why would she come up to me
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, Kelly Anne, have I ever lied
Speaker 1: to you? Like I don't know the conversation you're having
Speaker 1: with these people before I showed up, Like I was
Speaker 1: walking by, you know, the couch and the table um.
Speaker 1: But I'm like why, Like why, out of all things?
Speaker 1: You know, you've apologized to me multiple times since last
Speaker 1: season for betraying that, you know, like our friendship, for
Speaker 1: talking crap about me, for pretending that you were working
Speaker 1: with me when you were working with them, Like why
Speaker 1: are you asking me if you've ever lied? Unless you
Speaker 1: just want to make me feel like it was just
Speaker 1: it was it was very uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, um oh
Speaker 1: this has been intense, but not you this episode has been. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anything you care to tease for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: give us some little crumbs kill the Anne because we hungry.
Speaker 1: They're giving us a little bits of pieces in the episodes.
Speaker 1: Give us some crumbs. Um. You definitely see some ups
Speaker 1: and some downs from different um groups of both and you'll,
Speaker 1: you know, alliances get a little stirred up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I also ask, I'm gonna ask are there cracks in
Speaker 1: the Legends or in the MVPs? Am I allowed to
Speaker 1: answer that? Um? I, well, you know, you guys saw
Speaker 1: the cracks for Australia. We saw that an episode one,
Speaker 1: a little bit on two, so you might see some
Speaker 1: of that for the MVPs and uh, and there's definitely
Speaker 1: some some cracks with the definitely have some cracks with
Speaker 1: us Legends. You saw that already obviously as well. Well
Speaker 1: these that's the only crack that we like on this
Speaker 1: uh podcast. So I'm executive. I'm excited to see what
Speaker 1: the season has and I'm really grateful that this episode
Speaker 1: was not another cliffhanger because I'm sick of that shit.
Speaker 1: It was too much. Each one was like because they
Speaker 1: focused a lot on the drama. Ask back the reality
Speaker 1: this um episode, which I don't mind. You know, I
Speaker 1: like when they show the inner workings of the house
Speaker 1: because now you're a real world girl too, so it's
Speaker 1: me John Ay, you are real world girls, so you
Speaker 1: know there's we're used to that. Yeah, it definitely makes
Speaker 1: a difference. Well on the not so real world. Where
Speaker 1: can the people find you on the social media? Um? Um,
Speaker 1: you guys can find me on Instagram at Kelly am Judd.
Speaker 1: I do have a TikTok at Kelly am Judd. I
Speaker 1: need to get more into that and um yeah it's
Speaker 1: mostly one them on Hey, okay, when you heard of
Speaker 1: first people, go and follow Kelly Inn and see what
Speaker 1: she has going on in her life. I thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming in out with you and I
Speaker 1: on this podcast. You have been a play leisure girl
Speaker 1: and being very vulnerable and honest with us. Yeah. I appreciate.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And when you guys want to follow my dogs,
Speaker 1: stop the sad Yeah. I try to keep the sad
Speaker 1: stuff to a minimum on my regular page and time
Speaker 1: just still seeing it a lot but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of good stuff too, Lots and lots of really uplifting stuff,
Speaker 1: but also some sad things. On my dog page, you'll
Speaker 1: find it at um at no traditional mother with under
Speaker 1: slash under each word. Okay, no dash, un traditional. Thank you. Yes,
Speaker 1: she saves the pups and gives them a new lease
Speaker 1: on life as a foster foster parent. I've always done
Speaker 1: it for men, so I figured why not dogs as well.
Speaker 1: You missed opportunity to say new leash on my You
Speaker 1: know what? Nice? I love the corny jokes up to you, sis,
Speaker 1: but that's really funny. She could start a whole, a
Speaker 1: whole foundation called new leash on life where you take
Speaker 1: I would like I was like eight for being here.
Speaker 1: I love you guys, all right, well, thank you, enjoy
Speaker 1: your day, have fun with the hops. Thank you, and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the rest of this season.
Speaker 1: Yes yet, by the way, I'm excited to see the
Speaker 1: fire that's been lit up under you for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season, because situations like that will light a
Speaker 1: fire under you. That's like, oh, good luck trying to
Speaker 1: put it out, because I've been there. Good luck. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Thank you, guys. Dave, and I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm so excited that I get to
Speaker 1: podcast with you. It's just it really keeps me honest,
Speaker 1: but it also makes me laugh because you're funny. But
Speaker 1: you also have like a corny element to some of
Speaker 1: these jokes and a couple of slogans that might make
Speaker 1: us some money later in the future, so there has
Speaker 1: to be balanced. Yeah, I really really am happy about it.
Speaker 1: I am too. I am having so much fun co
Speaker 1: hosting this podcast with you. Of course, we miss our girls,
Speaker 1: Devin and Tory. However, in their absence, we are holding
Speaker 1: down the fort. Yes, everybody needs a break sometime. The
Speaker 1: podcast sport the port. We are holding the port is
Speaker 1: gonna say well, friends, family, listeners. Um, that interview was very, very,
Speaker 1: very therapeutic. I am glad that Kelly Anne was able
Speaker 1: to get all of the things off of her chest.
Speaker 1: And you know, hopefully there will be some healing from
Speaker 1: All Stars three and this season as well. Yes, that
Speaker 1: friendships are not destroyed and that we can all move
Speaker 1: on and play our game. Yeah, uh chat, where can
Speaker 1: people find you? A Nissa? They won't find they won't
Speaker 1: find me on the Global Challenge because I'm home, but
Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram at an Nissa MTV.
Speaker 1: That's a n e s a MTV Davin. Where can
Speaker 1: they find you? Follow you Twitter, the mayor Twitter. You
Speaker 1: can definitely tweet me at day Davin Underscore. You can
Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram at Davine Diane Underscore And I
Speaker 1: think thoughts about it for now. But as for you,
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