1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: We were presented, I went bet betting the team sport 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: put together. We bet Uh. Since that we are talking football, 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: since we are in America, we might as well bring 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: on Peter King Football Morning in America. It is morning 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: out here in Arizona. One of the things that jumped 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: out to me as far as your column last week 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: was you said the Jets are likely to be a 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: national team in twenty twenty three. When you look at 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: the schedule when it's released after the draft in early May, 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: the Jets are going to go from being assuming at 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: some point Aaron Rodgers is a Jet. And one of 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the reasons, I mean, people have sort of said, well, look, 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: they don't they don't really need to do it until 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: they get close to training camp. Rodgers is not a 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: guy who's going to be in the offseason program the 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: whole time, blah blah blah. I say, well, wait a minute, 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: because the NFL can't release its schedule seriously until Aaron 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: Rodgers is a Jet. That's why, in my opinion, there's 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: no way this goes much past the draft, and I 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: don't I think it'll go before the draft because obviously 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna want to know Green Bay's gonna 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: want to know, and Green Bay's gonna want that second 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: round pick off the Jets in twenty twenty three, so 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: I think it gets done before the draft. And then 25 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: you talk about TV. Eric. So last year, the Jets 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: had the mandatory national TV game, primetime game against the 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars on December twenty two, I think it was. But 28 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: this year, I think they're going to go up to 29 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: ten or eleven, doubtfully twelve, but ten or eleven national appearances. 30 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: And that encompasses doubleheader games on CBS and Fox in 31 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: the late Sunday afternoon window. That encompasses one or two 32 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Sunday night games, probably early in the season, and that 33 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: encompasses a Monday night game, maybe two, and obviously the 34 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Amazon game. And although I don't think the Jets will 35 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: be in the Black Friday window necessarily, that's also an 36 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: interesting spot for the Jets because obviously Amazon is going 37 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: to want the biggest numbers it can get, so you know, 38 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: I know, probably Jets fans have been very used to 39 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: going to church, getting a bagel, getting home, and at 40 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: you know, five minutes to one, turning on their game, 41 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: because that's when all the games have been played. Basically 42 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: in the lifetime of almost every Jets fan you know. 43 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: But that's gonna change this year, and you're gonna have 44 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: to work on changing your schedule this year. Well, you'd 45 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: have to go back to two ten since the last 46 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: time the Jets were primetime darlans. Of course, that's the 47 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: last time the Jets made the postseason oh nine and 48 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: oh ten, advancing those AFC Championship games. But you think 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the national play for the Jets could begin as early 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: as Week one? Oh, They'll be on Week one in 51 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: the national game, There's no question about it. They will 52 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: either be in Week one. I think it's like they're 53 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: either going to be Sunday or Monday Night Football or 54 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: the CBS doubleheader game you know, in four twenty five pm. 55 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: They'll be one of those three things. But I think 56 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: most likely they'll be one of the primetime games. Yeah 57 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: you're so, you're thinking Sunday Night or Monday Night. Yeah, yeah, 58 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Because look, Aaron Rodgers, he's the classic case of he's 59 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: he is what Tom Brady was five years ago. Whether 60 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: you love him or you hate him, you're going to 61 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: watch him and people will turn on the TV. Like 62 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that if the NFL wanted to get a 63 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: monster number on the Sunday night game to start the season. 64 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: It would be Jets in Dallas. That would be one 65 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: of the three biggest ratings of the year in the NFL. 66 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: But the way the NFL looks at it is that 67 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: they would almost I think and watch me. I'll be wrong, 68 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: but I think the NFL feels, why would we put 69 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Dallas and the Jets in Week one? We need to 70 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: save that for one of our huge national windows. We 71 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: need to save that for either one of the three 72 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: or four huge Sunday night games, or to make it, uh, 73 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, a prime doubleheader game for some weekum, you know, 74 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: on either CBS or Fox. Because they're going to intermingle 75 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: and interchange a lot of games this year. It's not 76 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: necessarily going to be all the big AFC games. They're 77 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna be on CBS. But I think you're more likely 78 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to see I don't pick an opponent. Maybe you know 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Jets Bills, you know that first weekend, but you know, 80 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: we'll see, but the Jets will be in a national 81 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: game in Week one. Interestingly, the Jets and Cowboys on 82 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the schedule like you talked about, and a lot of people. 83 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: I think I thought, maybe, hey, that's a natural spot 84 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: for a Thanksgiving game, but you actually said that, Hey, listen, 85 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, are you gonna draw on Thanksgiving no matter 86 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: what happens? You know? So I don't have to I 87 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think this is a terrible word 88 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: to use. I don't think the NFL wants to waste 89 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that game in a slot on Thanksgiving where the Cowboys 90 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: always they're gonna draw twenty five to thirty five million 91 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: people if they play the Washington Generals. It's just you know, 92 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: so I just don't really see that happening. But again, 93 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, it could happen. I just doubt 94 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: it will. So fascinating quarterback matchups potentially if this trade 95 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: does go through, right, because the Jets have the Kansas 96 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: City Chiefs and Pats Mahomes on the schedule, they have 97 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers and Justin Herbert on the schedule. You 98 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: talked about the Eagles before, and also just I mentioned 99 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Herbert Josh Allens inside the division, so you got a 100 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: pair of games with the Buffalo as well. So if 101 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: this happens, it's going to be an interesting quarterback matchup 102 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: each week for the Jets. Look, you can you can 103 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you can say that about a lot of teams in 104 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: the NFL this year. I mean Mahomes just anybody who 105 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Mahomes plays, that's got the potential to be a great attraction. 106 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: But I think one of the interesting things about the 107 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Jets schedule, honestly, and why I would expect them more 108 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of their primetime games to be early than late, is 109 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: because I think because ESPN and NBC are both going 110 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: to have the options to flex games this year, if 111 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: they're really good, you know, uh, they're going to have 112 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: at least one game added you know to them in 113 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: a you know, in another primetime game. So I think 114 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you're right looking at the quarterbacks and looking to see, 115 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, the really interesting matchups. But to me, one 116 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: of the other ones is I think Mike McDaniels is 117 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: going to get two a back and back playing at 118 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: a very high level with a really good offense. So 119 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I will not be surprised if you look up Thanksgiving 120 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Ish time and you know the Dolphins are seven and 121 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: three or out whatever it would be at that time. 122 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: So it could not just be the quarterbacks you talked about. 123 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: You could also add two to the equation. I doubt 124 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you'll add mac Jones to the equation, but you know, 125 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you never know. The Patriots are always dangerous. So but 126 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's going to be such an interesting year. 127 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I would be monitoring, 128 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: probably most of all, the one thing about about Rogers 129 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: and what he said that if I were the Jets, 130 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: quite honestly would scare me, is that he said before 131 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: he went into his darkness retreat, he was ninety percent retired. 132 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: You don't really want a guy who is basically has 133 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: sort of changed his mind about playing football to come 134 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: into your team. Now. Rogers obviously is one of the 135 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: most unique people, not just players, in football, and so 136 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I kind of take all that with a grain of salt. 137 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: But I also the reason if I'm Joe Douglas, I 138 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: am not given a first round pick unless it's a 139 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: conditional first round pick, and that condition would be based 140 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: almost entirely on whether Aaron Rodgers plays football in twenty 141 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty four, and I think unless he does, I would 142 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: not and I would hold firm if I were Joe. 143 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what the offers are, Eric, I really don't. 144 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: But if I were the Jets and there's a stalemate. 145 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel so bad about that because I don't 146 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: think either side has a huge edge. I think there's 147 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: pressure on both sides to get it done. So we'll 148 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: see when it happens. But I would still assume very 149 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: much that it happens. Yeah, you wrote about a proposal 150 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: that a lot of people haven't taken that approach. With 151 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: was saying, hey, send him a twenty twenty three second round. Yeah, 152 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: but then you got a skip a year. Yeah, and 153 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that's a conditional pick. Yeah. I would if I were 154 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: doing it this way, and I understand why Brian Goodacunston, 155 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: probably even Joe Douglas, not Joe Douglass, but certainly Brian Goodakunst, 156 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: the Packers general manager, would be reticent to do this. 157 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I said, give him a two this year, and in 158 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: give him a pick for instance, like a three or 159 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: four in twenty twenty five. But that's an if. If 160 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers plays football in twenty twenty four, it becomes 161 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: a one, right, And that would be okay with me, 162 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: because then you know you'd be getting at least two 163 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: years of Rogers. But because right now, and look, for 164 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: all I know he's told Joe Douglas, don't worry, you 165 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: got me for two years. I don't know that because 166 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: it's not out there and I've certainly not heard that. 167 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: But I think some of this ought to be conditional 168 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: on whether he plays next year. Now, another alternative, and 169 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to Brian Costello about this, that you know, 170 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe you give him a pick next year, even before 171 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season happens, and then the Jets 172 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: give back or I'm sorry, the Packers give the Jets 173 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: back a pick in twenty twenty five if Rogers doesn't 174 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: play in twenty four. But there's a lot of ways 175 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: to do this, but I do think that ultimately there 176 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: should be some conditions that include whether Rogers plays in 177 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. You said the word unique when describing 178 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers before you've been you are a football institution yourself. 179 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: You've been covering this game for multiple decades. What do 180 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you think about Rogers entering a year nineteen As far 181 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: as the fit is concerned with the Jets and then 182 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: also the fit in New York. I don't think the 183 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: New York thing really matters. I mean a lot of 184 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: people have said, oh, how will he handle the big 185 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: bad New York media When you're the quarterback of the 186 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, a national franchise, and every word that 187 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: you say is dissected by a cadre of national media 188 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: people from Stephen A. Smith to Mike Florio to all 189 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: of us everything. So it doesn't matter whether you play 190 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: on Broadway or in Kankakee, Illinois. It just doesn't anymore. Now. Look, 191 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: I think it might take him getting take some getting 192 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: used to the fact that he's not even on the 193 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: team yet. He's been on the back page of the 194 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: New York Post already five times, and that might be 195 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,479 Speaker 1: weird for him. But I also think because the impact 196 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: of newspapers per se is so much less than it 197 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: was twenty and thirty years ago, that or even oh eight. 198 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, of course, But so I don't really 199 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: think that. I don't think the whole New York media 200 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: thing is going to be an issue. Now let's talk 201 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: about him as a player. I think the mental part 202 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers is going to be very, very important 203 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: in this case, because Aaron Rodgers is going to have 204 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: it in the back of his head what so many 205 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: athletes get motivated by huh, the Green Bay Packers thought 206 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: I was done and I Am going to stick this 207 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: one right up their rear end. That's how Aaron. He 208 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: may never ever say that and all that, but you'll 209 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: hear a few things from him that'll be like, well, 210 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure that anybody in Green Bay 211 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: thought this was possible. But and they'll just say it 212 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: as a little aside. But every time somebody says that, 213 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: it means the deep inside they are ticked off about 214 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: what just happened. And I think if I were Aaron 215 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers sitting out there in California wherever he was when 216 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: all of this started. When Adam Schefter says there's a 217 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: good chance that Aaron Rodgers are going to be traded 218 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: this offseason, which I think that was January twenty one, 219 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: that was a big wow to me. Okay, And so 220 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: how did that happen if you look at Aaron Rodgers 221 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: very clearly not from Aaron Rodgers apparently. And so my 222 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: whole thought the whole time has been wherever Adam got that, 223 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it was from somebody who I think Aaron Rodgers will 224 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: be wanting to say, So, you're deciding my future without 225 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: even talking to me, okay, well, we'll see what happens now. 226 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: And so I just think they're mental. There's some mental 227 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: motivation here that there might not be in a lot 228 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: of situations. Jets fans were in our final push and 229 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: the clock is ticking. 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The best part, 238 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: you get an entry for every one hundred dollars you wager. 239 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Do you like the pairing with Nathaniel Hackett because Rogers, 240 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: of course, obviously Lavish should praise on him. And again 241 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering where he was still 242 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: a lee player, but where he was going to go 243 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: after the McCarthy era in Green Bay and then we 244 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: saw the floor come in there with Hackett and back 245 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: to back mbps in twenty and twenty one. I think 246 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: the difficult and I'm not saying that Nathaniel Hackett cannot 247 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: be a head coach coach, but he walked into a 248 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: really weird situation in Denver where everyone in Denver thought 249 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson walked on water when he walked into 250 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: the team. And so you're you're the coach, You've never 251 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: been a head coach before, and you're a big partnership guy, 252 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: and after a while you just sort of got to 253 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: got the feeling that I think Nathaniel Hackett, if he 254 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: had it to do over again, would have put a 255 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: few more guardrails in for Russell Wilson. But in my opinion, 256 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons that Rogers loved working 257 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Hackett is because he knew that Nathaniel Hackett 258 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: was going to think of everything, and he knew that 259 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: that that the combination of Lafleur in Hackett was going 260 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: to leave no stone on turn and it's kind of 261 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: funny that. Okay, So so when you look at what 262 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: happened with Mike Lafleur with the Jets. I don't think 263 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Mike Lafleur is gone because he's not a good coach. 264 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Mike Lafleur is gone because the quarterback situation got to 265 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: be an abject disaster, and so now Lafleur moves out. 266 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: And honestly, Rogers would have been fine, I think with 267 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Lafleur because he was fine with Matt Lafleur, and they 268 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: believe a lot of the same things. But this becomes 269 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: a really good combination because Aaron Rodgers knows that if 270 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett tells him something, he takes it to the 271 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: bank revamped wide receiver room. A bit for the Jets, 272 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: they at their headliner already, Garrett Wilson, fantastic rookie year. 273 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: The Jets not only had the offensive rookie year, Garrett 274 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Wilson was the defensive rookie of the year and Sauce Gardner. 275 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: But what do you think about the pickups of McCole 276 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: Hardman Jr. Also Allen Lazard most recently of course with 277 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: the Packers, but also the Jets interest that Joe Douglas 278 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: confirmed here on the ground in Arizona in Odell Beckham 279 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a big Odell Beckham person in terms of 280 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: relying on him. Here's a guy who, over the last 281 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: three years his average two hundred and eighty five receiving 282 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: yards a year, and he's at two ACL surgeries and 283 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: he's entering his age thirty one year. I'm all for 284 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: putting Odell Beckham on your team and giving it a shot. 285 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on him at all. It's just it's 286 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: any team that has counted on him him in the 287 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: last three years has basically been disappointed. Why all of 288 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, is that going to change again now that 289 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: he's a year older. I don't. I just don't see it. 290 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times what happens in the NFL, 291 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: people view guys like Odell Beckham Junior as a superstar 292 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: receiver who's going to catch ninety balls for sixteen hundred 293 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: yards and thirteen touchdowns. Stays are gone, Yeah, they're gone. 294 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: But as far as what the receiver room is now, 295 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of trading Elijah Moore. I 296 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: think both because of the contract and look, Joe Douglas 297 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and Robert Salin know the kind of person he was, 298 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: and whatever his attitude was whether he was a distraction. 299 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't know that, but I understand 300 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: they would not have done this unless they felt like 301 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: they really had to do it. But I'm not a 302 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: big fan of losing in the exchange for the guy 303 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: who was hurt all most to last year, McCole Hardman. 304 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of adding a guy for four 305 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: million more on the cap, which Hardman will be or 306 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: something in that neighborhood. I'm not a fan of adding 307 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: that and subtracting a player who I think still has 308 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: a chance to be good. But again, i'm not inside 309 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: the team. I don't know. There are other reasons sometimes 310 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: about why you make a trade like that. But they 311 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: do get a two back, and they'll be able to 312 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: use that either for currency with Aaron Rodgers or you know, 313 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: for another player. So we'll see how that all plays out. 314 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: Jets right now on the thirteenth overall pick in the draft, 315 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: and then a pair in the second round after the 316 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: Green Bay trade. Excuse me, after the trade with the 317 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, I should say the forty second and third 318 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: overall selections that pair. So what do you make of 319 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: the Jets if this big trade does go through it. 320 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, the only the only thing that I think 321 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: is I don't even want to call it a black cloud. 322 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: But the only thing that sort of hangs over the 323 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: franchise as far as a player right now who you 324 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: really are not sure of is McKay Beckton. And first 325 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: of all, I mean, I think it'd be wonderful if 326 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas and Robert Sale and the coaches there say, man, great, 327 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: great attitude really is you know, has been fantastic to 328 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: deal with blah blah blah. All signs are pointing up. 329 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: None of that really matters. He's got to go out 330 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: and do it, and he just hasn't done it. And 331 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: for that reason, if I were the Jets, I'd go 332 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: somebody like Paris Johnson and the you know, the Ohio 333 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: State tackle in a in the first round. I try 334 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: to get a player like him who has played at 335 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: a very high level at a good program and has 336 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: played a lot of football, and who's also a really 337 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: really solid guy. Most people are talking about Paris Johnson 338 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: or Roderick Jones from Georgia. Yeah, if if you if 339 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: you you know what I think. If I'm Joe Douglas, 340 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm putting a very very uh significant part of my 341 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: grade on a person attitude, work ethic and all that, 342 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: and what you hear about Paris Johnson is totally off 343 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: the charts in all aspects. Paris Johnson, Willie Anderson. Uh, 344 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, you want a guy who is revered by 345 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: his coaching staff and by his teammates. Paris Johnson was 346 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and so that's I'd be looking for 347 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that a lot this year. You been unbelievably gracious with 348 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: your time. I've enjoyed it. Let's end here solid Douglas 349 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: as you like where they've taken this thing the past 350 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: two years. And also with that being said, what do 351 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: you think the buzz is gonna be? Like? We started 352 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: this pot off talking about the prime time games, the 353 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: national team, the New York Jets perhaps could be in 354 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. What kind of buzzy think is going 355 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: to be back at my life this year? I mean, 356 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: it'll be all the Jets fans who put away their 357 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Cleco jerseys, put away their Curbet jerseys. They'll be back 358 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: in the stadium and they will be they will have 359 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: fireman ed like for and that's going to be a 360 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: really tough place to play. Now there's one little X factor, 361 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be Debbie Downer, okay, but 362 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: I do want to say that the Jets have to 363 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: make sure that however long Aaron Rodgers is a Jet, 364 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: they have to make sure that this isn't the kind 365 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: of bleep on the radar screen that or blip on 366 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: the radar screen that is going to take your team 367 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: up for a year or two and then you're going 368 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: to be five and twelve in twenty twenty six. You 369 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: gotta you have to use this for an advantage. And 370 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: the reason I bring that up is I think that 371 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Robert Sala should tell Zach Wilson to do what Jordan 372 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Love did in Green Bay. Now this didn't get a 373 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: lot of publicity, but Aaron Rodgers never ever took it 374 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: out on Jordan's Love that he was drafted to replace 375 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And in this particular case, especially because Zach Wilson, 376 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: maybe the wrong word is to say idolized Aaron Rodgers 377 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: when he was like a high school in college quarterback, 378 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: but he really looked up to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers 379 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: needs to invest some time in Zach Wilson. I don't 380 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: think that Zach Wilson should be thrown out with the trash, 381 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: not at all, because you can't pick somebody in the 382 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: number two overall, have him played twenty two games or 383 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: parts of twenty two games, and then say yep, that's it. 384 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: You know he's gone. He just can't do that now. 385 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: I do think that if his career as a Jet 386 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: totally flames out, that's really bad for Joe Douglas, very bad. 387 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: But I also think that I think he's got a 388 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: chance to be reborn a bit if he is literally 389 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: just basically works very hard to soak it up. You're right, 390 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And he also understands what this year is for Zach Wilson. 391 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: This year is the greatest year that could happen to 392 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: a player after a disastrous year, best thing by far 393 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: that could happen to a player. Because Aaron Rodgers is 394 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: one of these guys. If you ask a lot of 395 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: the guys who have played with him, and a lot 396 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks who have quarterbacked in his room, they 397 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: love the guy, and they will Zach Wilson doesn't have 398 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: to be a holler guy. It doesn't have to say 399 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: three words all season, just attach yourself to the hip 400 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. Learn as much as you can, and 401 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: as long as you're respectful to Rogers, he's really really 402 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: gonna help him. And I think Rogers likes the fact 403 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: that there's somebody there who kind of looks up to him. 404 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a threat in any way. And I 405 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: just I think it's a perfect situation. And if Zach 406 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Wilson can be saved, this is going to be the 407 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: kind of year that will help that. That's awesome. And 408 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: you believe this division gonna be a tough one. Huh, 409 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be. It'll be brutal. It'll be brutal. It's 410 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: amazing to say. But you know, I mean, if Aaron 411 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers comes and I'm look, the Patriots always surprised you, 412 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: but I mean, the Patriots have a chance to be 413 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: the last place team in a year that it's pretty 414 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: important for Bill Belichick. So anyway, we'll see. Hey, thanks 415 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot, it was fun to be on with you.