WEBVTT - TGI – Episode 711 “What a Drag!” 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.959 I had Rachel Lee Cook on Team Beat. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.200 Oh geez, here we. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.800 Go, and it was so fun and so good to 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.440 see her. But she shared a story with me, Oh no, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.000 that I wanted to bring here to my pods World universe. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.479 So to give you a little bit of backstory, I 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.920 told her, I said, you know, I've been reading snippets 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:51.600 of my teenage diary on pod Meats World. And I said, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.480 and the thing that struck me, one of the things 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.160 that struck me as being so funny is that I 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.400 have all these diary entries from the time that Rachel 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.960 and Writer that you two were dating, and it's so yes, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.160 And I said, and it's so apparent that I just 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.480 have the biggest crush on Writer. But I like Rachel 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.080 too much to hate her. But like I'm seething inside, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.280 like in the writing, it's like hung out with Writer 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.479 and Rachel today. She's so cool. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.000 I don't want to punch her at all. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:32.559 But I don't think she understands him. And so I said, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.679 did you just curious did you ever pick up like 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.119 when we were hanging out, did you ever pick up 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.240 on the fact that I had a crush on Writer 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.440 or that maybe you know somewhere I was jealous of you, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:48.840 and she goes, no, but I have a story and 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.040 now I'd like to play the clip. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.840 Oh what I remember one time he said to me like, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.120 if you weren't with me, you know, who would you 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.760 want to be with? And I realized in retrospect that 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.160 he was probably thinking I'd be like, oh, I don't 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.679 know James if he was still alive or something like that. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.000 But instead I say the name of my ex boyfriend 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.360 and he takes it on the chin and I was like, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.520 I realized that I've probably answered wrong. And then I said, well, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:21.200 what about you? 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:27.399 And he goes, Danielle what, I don't know the presses. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:28.240 I think I didn't remember. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.400 Yeah, I was. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.440 I was probably trying to make jealous. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.320 I was like, you were probably trying to. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.080 Make her hanging out all the time, I know, but yeah, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.520 she's probably right that. Like I expected her to say, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.760 like some you know, fa cele guy. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:46.440 When she said that, I. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.760 Was like, fine, how about my friend? 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.040 You know that every day with. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:53.800 How about that? 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:54.760 Just for the. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:03.440 Record, have you guys ever kissed anything on TV? You 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.680 never had an when you were hanging out, nothing, it 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.680 never crossed the line. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:07.760 Nothing ever happened. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.760 Okay, what we've talked about. We were cuddly the way teenagers, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.320 the way teenagers are cuddling. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.239 You'll probably cross the line now now, correct. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.600 I would not ever go over to your house and 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.840 lay on with my head on your chest and my 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.640 legs draped over your leg, listening to counting, but we 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:26.400 definitely did. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.440 When you work in the car seems to look at 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:30.600 stars and listen. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.120 To music and run in the rain together holding hands. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.280 We wouldn't do that away, it seems it seems totally normal. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.120 You were dating and you just didn't know it. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.600 But my favorite part of the whole thing is that 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.440 when she finished the story, we started laughing and talking 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.560 over it, but she looks right at the camera and 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.320 she goes, you think I forget, Oh. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:50.240 My god. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.800 Anyway, I just felt like my teen Beat world fully 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.680 crossed over into the Pod meets World universe, and I 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.920 had and I had to share. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:01.760 Wow. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.840 So so you can hear the rest of the Rachel 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.800 Lee Cook interview over on the designated feed at teen Beat. Yeah, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.720 it was. It's so much fun to talk to her. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.160 I've had so much fun doing that show and just 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.000 getting hearing people's stories of what they were like as 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:23.000 kids and teenagers, also getting Rachel's like the way Rachel 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.279 felt about herself. She's like, I was such a try 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.200 hard and I was like, it's so crazy because she was. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.479 She was like a definition of cool. But she was 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:33.280 always she. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.840 I mean, the thing about Rachel is that she was 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.040 she was always kind of she thought of herself as 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.560 like a dorky person and it was like there was 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.120 nothing everything. I mean yeah, no, I mean except she 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.440 was earnest. She was not like but she just always 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.560 had the best taste in clothes and music and movies 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.640 and art and like, yeah, she was so sophisticated, but 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.719 she never like she never thought of herself as sophisticated, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.279 which is that was you? I know, maybe described yourself. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.920 Writer is into cool clothes, per se. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:04.440 I think he was. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:13.600 Back in the day, he was. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:08.320 And he was. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.560 I think in retrospect, I can say graduation, I was 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.240 a pretty cool kid, and you were silent. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.640 But I didn't feel the cool like nobody does. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.160 Know. There's I guess one thing I imagine, Danielle You're 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.760 going to learn from your show is that there's something 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.200 wrong with you. I think, honestly, if you look back 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.480 and you're like, my teenage years, I was awesome and 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.680 the world was at my doorstep, and it was the 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:31.400 best time. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.400 In my life. Like everybody hates being a teenager at 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:34.039 the end of the day. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.760 It's so tough and you're going through so many changes, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.880 and so it's like, you look back, but you were 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.520 totally cool and sophisticated, and and you know, we drove 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.120 a BMW and you you wrote poetry and you were 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.360 friends with Adam Durretz. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.840 I mean, of course your teenagers were. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.200 I think, you know, part of it was that I 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.640 always always hanging out with older people, you know more 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.480 just like even in my hometown with my brother's friends, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.720 and like so I just always felt like sort of 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.240 the the younger kid crashing the party, who like was 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:03.719 lucky to be there, do you know what I mean? 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.960 When in retrospect, like, yeah, I was pretty cool. I 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:06.960 was doing cool things, and. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.599 I just didn't feel that way, you know. Yeah, God, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:11.840 that's interesting, right. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.200 Welcome to bod Meets World. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.080 I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm Righter Strong, and I'm wil Fredell. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:33.760 Today we are recapping season seven, episode eleven, What a 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.560 drag in the raatest. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.800 Episode of Boy Meets World's history. May this go down? 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.919 Let's proclaim it now, just before. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:54.000 Gold Star Man, the Emmy's just snubbed us in our 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.039 final year with our greatest ever. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.919 Do you think Bill Daniels looks at his his entire. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:06.400 Career and says, with that one time I said a joke. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.200 To Eric Matthews. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:09.520 Yes. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.000 It originally aired December third, nineteen ninety nine. The synopsis 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.840 Corey decides to redecorate the apartment while Eric and Jack 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 poses girls to hide from. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:26.200 A rave throwing Fuck. You can't even I think you're 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.120 gonna be surprised. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.280 I like to call this episode the Leather Jacket Gang 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:38.240 is Alive and well exactly. It was directed by Jody Binstock. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.720 It is her third and final episode of Boy Meets World. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:48.080 It was written by Carlos Aragon. Before I jump into 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.800 our guest stars writer, take it away with your overall fox. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.960 Uh yeah, no, I think this is pretty bad, pretty 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.920 pretty up there, and you know, definitely top ten were 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.640 episode world, if not top. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:03.600 Five, probably top five. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.880 I would say it's hard to remember all of them, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.840 but I would say this is pretty bad. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:09.960 I mean, actually, the. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:15.120 B story is cute, and again we're in the the 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.720 Corey Topanga era, which I do like, so that's cool. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.000 But yeah, it's it's really. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.760 Yeah, you know, I mean, and it's one thing like 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.120 it's it's it's just I don't know. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:28.520 I found it really insufferable. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:34.880 Yeah, well, I it surprised me. I actually really liked 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:40.800 this episode. I thought this was fun and kind of 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:41.640 out of the box. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:47.960 I liked the I'm kidding it was awful episode. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.960 You know, maybe I was like, maybe it was really 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.440 into his own performance, whether you're doing a French accent 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.280 the whole time and and crying in a French accent 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.319 the whole time because somebody ugly it is. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.760 This is so And I realized just halfway through, it's 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.400 what we've talked about. It's this is the biggest drug trip. 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.720 Nobody kind of cares about the stories. It's it's so, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:14.760 I don't I don't know what to think. I don't 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:15.840 know what to say about this episode. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.680 I really don't. None of it makes any sense. I 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:18.640 remember shooting this week. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.000 I remember specifically some stories about this week, but I 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.199 remember getting into a fight. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.880 With Michael at one point. But this was just it 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:26.679 was it. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:31.679 Was borderline, and I mean real borderline unwatchable. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.720 Yes, I actually found myself looking at my phone, yes, 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.000 which is you know, like I don't do him life 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.320 in general, but like especially when we're watching shows. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.719 For the podcast. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.400 Twenty and for twenty two minutes, it was an under 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:44.199 six hours. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.600 Checking the news. Yeah, and I was like, what's going on? 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.400 I had to like stop myself, like keep watching. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.520 It is everything about this. And I know you said 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:52.360 you like the B story. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.839 It was so lost in the quagmire of whatever the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.920 hell was happening in the A story that I just 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:58.400 didn't get. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:59.840 A real ruin of the B story is the fact 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.000 that they actually try to have like a boy meets 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.360 world sweet moment where Eric as a woman, gives the 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.040 advice for the lesson. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.800 Of the B story and I was like, what is happening, nobody, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:15.800 It's Eric. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.360 I'm sitting there talking it to Panga and she doesn't 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.640 get to that. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:28.040 Everyone has to pretend that we don't recognize you too. Also, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:35.800 I've never seen a more hideous woman than that in 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:43.000 my life. And you are substantially better looking, yes than 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:43.480 he is. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.320 Ed, thank you. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:50.760 I what I do have to share, we've now watched, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.719 however many episodes. We're coming up on one hundred and 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.160 forty some odd episodes. We're in one hundred and forty 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.400 five episodes of Boy Meets World, if not more at 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:06.719 this point. Right, Jensen has never hated any of them. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.800 He's always been able to. He's always like, listen, here's 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.800 the silver lining. I really like, even when we've all 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.840 been like, I hate it, no redeeming qualities, he's found 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:20.120 redeeming qualities. This was his he said, I absolutely hate it. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.600 I didn't hate it as much as he did. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.400 Can I tell you also that I think that this episode, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.360 more than any episode that we've seen, which is now 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.800 almost all of them, you're all furious, you're all clearly 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.360 out of you're not even there. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:36.319 Yeah. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.040 There are parts where Danielle feels sad. Yeah, Will, you're 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.080 doing what you've done well this whole season, which is like, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.319 try not to drown and you drown. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.079 Yeah, No, it's bad. It's just bad. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.800 It is, and it's you almost want to And again, 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.600 from an actor's standpoint of us working, getting to spend 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.880 the year with each other, making more money, which is 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.560 of course important, giving the fans something else, which is 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.160 great season seven. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:03.440 Great. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:04.679 I'm glad we got a chance to do it and 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.400 all be together for the legacy of boy Mets Roll. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.240 That almost feels like we would have been better to 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:10.760 end after season Well. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.960 You know what bothers me about it is it feels 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.120 there is a part of me that when I watch it, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.560 and I do feel I feel like I'm looking at 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.720 Danielle being sad. There is a sense and I remember 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:28.000 feeling that way that season that felt like we had 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.480 been raised and nurtured in kind of this. Not that 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.520 it was all pleasantries, obviously, but we had been protected 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.480 as a show and we had the same goal, and 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.280 it was to make good a good product, and we 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.200 were enjoying doing it. And then for some reason in 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.640 the seventh season, because they knew it was over anyway, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.640 they stopped caring about us and they didn't feel the 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.720 need to protect us or the characters. So it just 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.480 became you write a script, you write a script, you 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.720 direct an episode, you direct an episode. Let's bring this 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.800 person and then throw that character out the window. Who 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.719 cares anyway? And now this thing we worked six years 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.080 to build, they just lit a match to and yet 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.360 we all still had to go out there and do it. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.559 Yeah, And it was also the thing that also made 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.960 me sad, was it. It kept just I was kept 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.240 just thinking about Writer's performance and Ben's performance and chick 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.840 like me, and it kept just makeing me go, like, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.880 you know, all the good that did this kind of 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.960 undid and it was just none of it made it 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:36.240 was so well motivated, yes, just so poorly motivated. And 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.040 then oh and it was even worse at the beginning. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.679 That's what Michael and I thought, we'll get into that 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.280 because I. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.760 Mean, but it's just like the idea that Eric is 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.959 like motivated by being upset that he's an ugly girl. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.520 Like that's literally what your character is supposed to be 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.800 doing for like three scenes, not one, not one moment, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.200 but like it's the entire character arc. And it's like, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.160 actually could have been set up easily if you were 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.640 talking about looks in the beginning, if you were talking 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.240 about how women look, or you know, the way you 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.679 feel about your own looks or don't even think about your. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.679 Own looks, Jack, how you know, there's ways. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.120 You could have done it, But instead it just becomes 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.920 this jokey motivation that then we're supposed to carry through 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.840 so many scenes, I was like, I don't care. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.040 Also, why not make it Jack who is an ugly 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.840 woman and he's never been told he was ugly in 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.480 his life wonderful and he all of a sudden is like, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.080 but wait, you know, and you could then help him through. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.720 Like that, And then he's pursuing the guy because he 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.240 wants the guy to validation the validation, even though it. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.560 Puts him closer to getting caught. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.000 Yeah, I know, it's this was just yeah, this was 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.680 a very very tough watch. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.040 While jumping into our guest stars, we have Andrew Levitos 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.280 as Luther. He had appeared in the movie In and 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.960 Out and TV shows like The Nanny and Party of Five, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.880 but has since become quite the renaissance man. A multidisciplinary artist, 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:06.080 his work spans all types of mediums visual art, sculpture, film, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.160 and installation, with an emphasis on experimental mixed media. He's 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.120 best known for his signature metal work photography process, in 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.120 which photographic images are chemically transferred onto sheets of metal, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.240 blurring the line between painting, photography, and sculpture. His work 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:27.440 often explores themes of environmental decay, human fragility, and urban transformation. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.520 Exhibited internationally in numerous galleries and museums. He's also produced 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.920 several films, including The White Crow directed by Ray Fines, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.400 Georgetown directed by Christoph Waltz, and Lullaby, a movie he 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:41.960 directed So. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:43.840 Hand Man, wo awesome. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.000 Can you imagine having to commit to this character? Also, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.640 why are the leaders of all gangs hot? 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:01.320 Well, we like to know, I don't I was, I mean, why. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.320 Why they like why did they put that in the 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:04.880 lines of the young women. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.640 Fifty's bully archetype? 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:07.840 Right? 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.760 Like they clearly just liked the like bad boy leather jacket, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.720 James Dean wanta be greaser because it's like such a 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.920 clear archetype. It's like you have Harley, Harley's replacement Griff 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.040 to a certain extent, you have this now it's like 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.880 always these like handsome, gorgeous guys. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.480 But there's also the leather jacket instantly signifies you know, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:30.960 it's three guys with leather jackets. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:31.640 You're bad. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:32.520 You just need that. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.720 It's all you need to see. And we know and 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.520 it wasn't three guys when we started. So yeah, well right. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.560 Yeah, And there's Josh Lamb as gang member. This appears 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.320 to be his first and only credit in the entertainment business. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.840 And also we have another featured background actor in Luther's Gang, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.680 played by Brad Everett Young. This was uncredited, but he 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.600 also appeared on shows like Felicity and Gray's Anatomy and 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.680 in movies like Love and Basketball and The Artist. He'd 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.480 eventually become an always working celebrity and red carpet photographer, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.719 published in magazines like Vanity Fair, Vogue, People, Variety, and 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.400 with celebrities like David Harber, Sarah Michelle Geller, and Seth Green. Sadly, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.240 Brad collided with a car going the wrong way on 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.600 the one thirty four freeway and died at the young 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.840 age of forty six. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:17.520 Oh God. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:22.480 Young also founded dream Loud Official, a grassroots initiative dedicated 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:28.320 to restoring and preserving music and art programs in schools nationwide. So, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.320 jumping into our recap, we start in the student union. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.719 It's late at night and Eric and Jack are working 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.800 overtime behind the counter. Eric is spit shining the register 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.679 when they're startled by a rattling at the glass doors. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.919 The boys hide and watch on as a handful of 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.840 guys in leather jackets, which still means they're up to 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.800 no good load in sound equipment. These hooligans are putting 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.920 together some sort of secret event and they've sent out 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.200 over three hundred flyers, so they're expecting a big turnout out. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.359 The main thug Luther brags, big crowd, big money, lots 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.800 of beautiful women, and none of it's legal. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.840 Just the kids we didn't know, breaking the law, breaking 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:11.560 love it. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:12.520 I love it. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:12.800 Yeah. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:18.480 So the original scrip, it was just him. Really, it 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:18.840 was him. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.919 He might have had a couple that like he there 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.760 was people that were helping him set up the rave, 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:23.600 but it was just him. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.119 And I went to Michael. I'm like, Michael, come on, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.159 and he's like what what, what's the problem. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.040 I'm like, what's the problem. We're gonna dress like women 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.720 to get away from this one guy. I'm like, Matt 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.840 shredded and I'm two hundred pounds. We could crush this man. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.480 Yes, two against one, two against. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:42.439 One, and like what that? 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.680 Well, well, you know it's all about you or you're 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.239 the good guys. I'm like, no, Michael, this is right, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:47.600 and we ended up getting into a fight about it. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.120 I'm like, I'm not doing it. I'm not there's no 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.880 reason why we're getting dressed like women to get away 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.520 from this one guy guy. Yeah, and so we got 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.240 into this whole thing. Well, then we'll give them guys, 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.240 We'll give them thugs. I'm like, do something because I'm 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.159 not doing it this way. Yeah, And it was the 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.040 first time of really starting to stand up where it's 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.320 like this is insane, and so he would. They went 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.040 the rest of the other guy. Yeah, and then they gave. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.680 Him ten guys around it where it's like, at. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.080 Least make us feel threatened because this one little guy 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:13.399 comes in. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.720 It's like, I'm gonna kill you. Well, then we're gonna 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.680 beat out of you because there's two of us. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.560 But you were being cooked in a pot. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.320 Again. At least that was so absurd that it's like. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.320 This is fine, but it's it's just it was all 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.040 of it is just I think it was also building 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.359 up by this point of you know, and. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:30.879 Then to do this season. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.639 Man oh man. It culminated me wanting to leave with 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:34.560 the lot of tickets. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.719 I mean that gout that goes later. But it was like, 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.240 I just it was it was starting to build and 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.080 build and build, and I remember Michael and I going 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.239 at each other because this was made perfect sense to him, 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:44.960 made perfect sense to him that. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.160 Well, he's the bad guy. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.120 And it's like, as a point of comparison, you think 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.240 about players with squirrels, like how much of a slam 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.000 dunk that over the topness was versus the over the 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.640 top miss that they've been making you do in other episodes. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.719 It's it's too bad because it could have been. You know, 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.520 it's fine to go over the top. Going big is great. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.720 I take some of this blame because I remember specifically 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.919 asking Michael this season to let me play multiple characters. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.760 So I know because I had that conversation with him 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.360 where I want to play more things, and I think 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.240 Michael in you know, the road to Hell being paved 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.919