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Speaker 1: Who's the best female school you ever saying myself outside of.

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Speaker 2: You, I was honestly, I would say Maya because Maya

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Speaker 2: get buckets, YO, Like she's different. That's one person I

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Speaker 2: She's going to get buckets. To ROSSI and myself, we're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: To get buckets. Maya mooreries she's going to get buckets.

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Speaker 2: And she's six three and she got a quick release,

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Speaker 2: so that makes it tough to guard her. And the

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Speaker 1: Taking any shot.

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Speaker 3: But she practices, she practices, she practices. She practices that shot.

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Speaker 1: Pull up three like her three got even better than

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Speaker 4: Yo, what's good? Q Rich D Miles Weeding Knuckleheads. This

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Speaker 4: is the ladies edition. She is the first lady of

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Speaker 4: the Knuckleheads podcasts in Chicago's very young everybody. We got

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Speaker 4: the legendary w NBA superstar Cappy Context in the building.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The queen.

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Speaker 5: This is cute Rich and D Niles and Knuckleheads.

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Speaker 1: We coach a push up. That's when I knew.

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Speaker 5: I was like, this is fact finder right here. This

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Speaker 5: is a story that people don't know. Can't call me soft,

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Speaker 5: and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 3: I did deal with a lot of losers and that

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Speaker 5: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint. But it's

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Speaker 5: thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 5: and you guys got a microphone set up in the backyard.

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Speaker 5: And okay, I like it. I like it. I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I like to say, it's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: and not only not only in Illinois, but you basketball

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Speaker 1: and watch it at the early age, like an honor

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Speaker 1: and a blessing to even have you on our show.

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Speaker 1: So let's get this start in appreciation to you. Thank

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Speaker 3: Y'all gonna make me cry. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I got a story for you that I always wanted

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Speaker 1: was my first year of tenth grade. Year you was

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Speaker 1: Was it easy being a dog like you came into

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's why she started, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the opportunity to play you three years

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Speaker 3: It's Tasha man, Natasha Portnew you know that, Like.

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Speaker 2: She was my mentor. She was the first female I said, like, yo,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was her. It was crazy like that.

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Speaker 2: I would never trade that experience in my whole entire

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Speaker 3: Experience for me.

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Speaker 4: I was hyped to see it because I knew a

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Speaker 1: You're getting drafted, you going to the Mercury. So this

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, because I came into a

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Speaker 2: Like we're going through airports, people like yo, Tarassie, what's up?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It was just a cool experience.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, y'all the girl version of shaking Kobe, like that.

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Speaker 1: The numbers y'all was putting up when y'all went on

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Speaker 2: It was crazy because, like I remember, we were our

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Speaker 3: I never expected it. And I remember, like some of

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Speaker 2: You don't even know what this means all this, I'm like, nah,

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Speaker 2: So it was just it was a great experience to

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Speaker 1: How did you feel to become the one of the

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Speaker 1: You've always been a score since the first time I

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Speaker 2: Buckets, nah, you know what, Honestly, it's like really a

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Speaker 2: you gotta go through a lot, you know, a lot

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I just had that mentality of

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Speaker 1: Your game is to kill everything that moved, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: Tarassiti who who won that championship with y'all like you

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Speaker 1: they want to say it, that's Kobe and Shaq. You

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Speaker 3: No, I agree. Look, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: I think in Tarassi can admit it as well that

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't have one without each other, you know, because

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Speaker 2: we both had the mentality. She she's an Italian from Argentina.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just different mentality.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: She had to get it from the Mud like I

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Speaker 2: So it just helped us like really like propel for it,

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Speaker 2: because it was different. It was like how did these

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Speaker 2: So to see that, to even experience it, honestly, it

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I just I loved it.

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Speaker 2: But I never said like, oh, I'm gonna win a

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Speaker 3: I never that was. I just said I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: Who if anybody, who would you say, growing up like that,

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Speaker 4: the mid range because a mid range killer, he could.

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Speaker 5: Have been nicknamed two point geezers too. Now I'm just saying, right,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm appreciative of where I am now, and I

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Speaker 2: we're exactly where we should be because who would ever say, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: these three would be talking about basketball and what they've

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Speaker 3: So I'm I don't know, I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be in you guys presence and just

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Speaker 2: because when you live in life, you tend to forget

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, you accomplished a lot in our eyes,

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Speaker 1: and you continue to accomplish like so much more, you know,

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Speaker 1: to see us from being young kids to now that

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Speaker 1: we're adults and were moving a certain way. We grow

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Speaker 1: I said, I got so many of you. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: One of the eras. You was one of the ones

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Speaker 4: So I feel like the WNBA and the female players

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Speaker 5: I guess the rest of the world, like the networks.

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Speaker 4: a lot more opportunities for those type of things. What

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Speaker 4: that's trending for you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I think that's great because I think it will

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Speaker 2: The more they physically see us in the States going

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Speaker 2: our brand, you know, our company, and I think people

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Speaker 3: We're celebrating twenty four years this year.

437
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: So and I don't like to never compare the two

438
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: to the game, you know, because I think it's different.

439
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: Like you guys started twenty four at the age of

440
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: twenty four. I think we had way more exposure and

441
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: probably was making way more money. So it's different, you

442
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I just think we just

443
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: have to do a better job of marketing, you know,

444
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: and more girls staying home and getting the opportunities to

445
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: stay home.

446
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: Right, maya more sitting out this year, like Tarisi set

447
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: up just for that. Like what you think about girls

448
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: the Cambridge Cambridge I think that's the thing.

449
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, a few teams from overseas, like the one year

450
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: they paid Diana Trasse not to play in the WNB.

451
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: She had a million dollars to not play. I mean,

452
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 3: of course, why wouldn't you take it?

453
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: You know, No, no, that's definitely smart. But the Cambridge

454
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: girl said, she's not playing like what you think about girls.

455
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: Just like, oh, she's a great DJ, she can fucking

456
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: rock a house.

457
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: She can she's talented.

458
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: I play with her in Australia. I think, you know,

459
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: she has style, she's witty. You know, Australians live different.

460
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: I seen Cambage when she was young, and I try

461
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: to warn everybody about her. You know, she's she's just

462
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: as creative as I am, you know, and she thinks

463
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: way out the box.

464
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: And I love her growth.

465
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: I think she's a tremendous basketball player and to see

466
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: her do what I love as well in the music industry,

467
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: you know, like being a DJ producer. Like I think

468
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: she's going to open up a lot of doors for

469
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: a lot of young ladies.

470
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: I think the game just needs to be supported more

471
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: by like everybody, because like girls, basketball is dope on

472
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: all seiling tosy. You watch the college game, you watch

473
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: the the w an like the playoffs and stuff like that.

474
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: It'd be exciting, it's thrilling. I just I don't understand

475
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: it either, like why it ain't being supported while we

476
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: can't have it be bigger and why it can't be

477
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: like you know, moving in the right direction or something

478
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: like all Star games be biggers and stuff like that.

479
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: You know.

480
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we don't even have a w Union

481
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: president right now, but if you know, look at our stats.

482
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: We went from eighty six thousand views to one hundred

483
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: and sixteen thousand views, you know, so I think numbers

484
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: like that, you know, with fifty merchandise sales, obviously it's

485
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: gonna help help the game grow behind our campaign find

486
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 2: against the Trump you know, administration. So it gave us

487
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: a lot of growth this year. But I think now

488
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: it's just like we need somebody that's gonna progressively help

489
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: us change the WNBA.

490
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: They did a great.

491
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Job of with Marvel out there with the young ladies,

492
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: and I think that is it's cool because everybody want

493
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: to be a superhero and it's so many girls that

494
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: want to play basketball, and I think it's cool for

495
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: them allowed their dreams to come true. I remember growing

496
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: up and I didn't have that, you know, and to

497
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: be able to see it, you know, like actually happened,

498
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: it's just like Okay, that's cool, and I was a

499
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: part of it.

500
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: I could tell my kids, like.

501
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: Look, I helped the league road and you know, like

502
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: it's just passing the torch and it just it's I

503
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm just happy to be a part of

504
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: something I love.

505
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: How do you feel when you see some of the

506
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 4: talent that's coming through now, Like some of the girls,

507
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: like I seen the one girl in the high school

508
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: and McDonald's game is like jumping over people, dunking girl

509
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: with the goggles and it's like, yeah, like some of

510
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: the talent that you're starting to see, you know what

511
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you start like do you think it's gonna

512
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: take somebody like a girl like her to come through

513
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 4: with like with this crazy athletic ability that can count

514
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: possibly take the game to a next level, like as

515
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: far as like because that's something that when I first

516
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: saw that come across social media, I was like, what

517
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: is this old? Stop really looking see what was going?

518
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: Like she was catching lives and it was like, what's

519
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: going what is going on?

520
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy to me? Her teammate threw it

521
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: with so much confidence.

522
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 4: Like behind it said, Oh, it's like that's when you

523
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: know it's real because like.

524
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: She threw it like a teammate got confidence.

525
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 4: It's nothing like So, how do you feel about seeing

526
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: this new talent push come through.

527
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: It's scary. I'm like, you know what, I'm glad I'm out.

528
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Of it because those girls like they're they're just only

529
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: going to get creative with it now, but that they

530
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: have a confidence in knowing that they can accomplish it,

531
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: because I never understood that it was just more of

532
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: a saying I can thing to dunk, you know, like yeah,

533
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: I remember like, oh I could touch the rim and

534
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, at a younger age. And

535
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: then now it's like, no, we're dunking, we're throwing and

536
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: we know we're going to catch it and throw it

537
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: down like crazy. That's on the whole other level, you know.

538
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's just it says a lot

539
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: about the game and where we are. I think Asia Wilson,

540
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: she helped the media come to the WNBA, So it's

541
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: going to only expose the game like so much more

542
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: now than these younger girls are duncan.

543
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: That's what everybody want to see.

544
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: They want to see the girls play over the room

545
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: because if you look at our stats, it says that

546
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: men are sixty five percent more involved in our game.

547
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: Those that's our fan base, you know, and it's not women.

548
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: So now it's like, okay, how can we get the

549
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: women involved.

550
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: You know, because that's the most important thing.

551
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: And that's the link, you know, because like obviously the

552
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: men are watching us, but okay, let's get some love

553
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: to you know.

554
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 4: Like I think one of that women, Yeah, I think

555
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: one of the things that really jump off when I

556
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: look at the w NBA is opposed you know, not

557
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: to say I'm comparing, but like just as opposed to

558
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: the NBA, the Wino men are a million times more

559
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: fundamentally sound than we are, as the yes please, some

560
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: of the step through and the one two stuff that

561
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: I watch y'all do, like we can't even do in

562
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: our game because we don't do it so to get

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: called to travel because we don't do some of the

564
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: like some of the fundamental stuff I watch y'all do regularly.

565
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: We don't do that.

566
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: And maybe it's because, like you said that the big

567
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: difference in athleticism, we skip stuff because like we can,

568
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: we can do this, We ain't gotta do that because

569
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 4: like y'all have to you know, be polished with so

570
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: many of the fundamentals because men could just skip that phase.

571
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump so I'm gonna not do that because

572
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: I could jump and do this, so I can run

573
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: past here.

574
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 5: Or do that.

575
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: Like y'all footwork be crazy like it be precise and

576
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: everything be like super fluid like he say, like fundamentals

577
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: be on point.

578
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 5: Y'all be polished like.

579
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: You said, probably because we have to skip that, like

580
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: we cannot skip steps right, you know. But then that's

581
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: also scary too, because it's like if the girls can

582
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: start dunking, you know, like it. So it's like I guess,

583
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: but honestly, I enjoyed watching the Men games so much

584
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: because I look at certain things that happen. It could

585
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: be like the jump pass to the person that's on

586
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: the wing. You know, it's a lot of things that

587
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: that's missing from our game too, you know. Or you know,

588
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: we just started using a snake, you know what I mean,

589
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: like or the Chris Paul you know a lot of

590
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: moves that are now popular.

591
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: We're just we're doing it in our game, you know.

592
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, who go at you the best.

593
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: Catchings because she was.

594
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Because she was she was tall, and you know, she

595
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: was as quick as I was as a player during

596
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: the time when we played against each other.

597
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: So it was a lot different.

598
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: They one of the reasons that I love women's basketball too,

599
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Like huh closed hose Car and past sum at their

600
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: whole program, Like just watching them coming up in the

601
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: early days, Like yeah, she was nice.

602
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Nice, nice catchings is the real deal, Like and she

603
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: never gave up on any play on both ends of

604
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: the courts to have a player guard you. I'm only

605
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: five seven. People don't even realize how really small I

606
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: am compared to most female players, So you know, it's

607
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: it's different.

608
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: Like talk about how it is for you, you girls,

609
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: having to go after you playing the season, well not

610
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: so much anymore, but having to go overseas and play,

611
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: And like where was your favorite place to play at overseas?

612
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: Did you play?

613
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great experience.

614
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: I think my favorite place to play that I've ever

615
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: played with Cypress, the little island between Greek and Turkey.

616
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: And it was cool because we were still in the

617
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: Turkish League, so we would fly the anchor or to

618
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: play our home games, but we were practicing live in

619
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: Cypress Island on an island, so I can go to

620
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: the Greek side with my American passport by like literally

621
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: a taxi and walking through the border.

622
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: So it was cool.

623
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: It was like you get the experience, like both sides

624
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: of two countries.

625
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Basketball took us around the world and showed us like

626
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: so much stuff. I know, growing up in Chicago, you

627
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: like you say, certain things was cool, certain things were

628
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: not cool. But basketball gave you the opportunity to go

629
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: all the way to Rutgers and then you traveling playing

630
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: all these different states with WNBA. You travel overseas and

631
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: see all these different cultures, eat all these different foods,

632
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Like how was that?

633
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: Like?

634
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: So my mom, So I was fifteen when I first

635
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: started traveling international. My mom signed me up for like

636
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: this basketball camp, this organization and you get to travel.

637
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: So I went to Germany for my first trip by

638
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: myself at fifteen, and I was just going to like

639
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: these different camps playing basketball. So I don't know what

640
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: it was about why she wanted to be My mom

641
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: is like that. She's just like, you always have to

642
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: try this, So go to just do this experience this.

643
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: Go there myself for a camp. Yeah, with a bunch

644
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: of other kids and older kids.

645
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: You know. I was like we were just trying to

646
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: be seen, you know, and I was better than everybody

647
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: in the camp. And people were like remember my name

648
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: and stuff and we pin pals.

649
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: So like at fifteen and you're going, is that that

650
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: had to be like culture shocked?

651
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: Did everybody speak English? How was that?

652
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: Well?

653
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: It was cool to me because I enjoyed a travel

654
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: like I've always been. My mom can tell you, like literally,

655
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: like when I was younger, I would do like all

656
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: this crazy stuff, Like I was swimming at like three months.

657
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: My babysitter would literally throw me in the water. I

658
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: started walking.

659
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: At one Literally, ladies and gentlemen, that's me.

660
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: I started walking like by myself because I wanted pretty panties.

661
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: It's like I got a lot of weird, crazy stories.

662
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: But I've just always been different, you know, since I

663
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: was a baby, you know what I mean, And it's

664
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: who I am now. Like I just love everything about

665
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: anything in the world has to offer, like travel. When

666
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: I just came from Bali, I was teaching kids, and

667
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: oh my god, I fell in love with that country.

668
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: I could actually live there, you.

669
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like, what something go wrong, It'd

670
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: be like.

671
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: It could go wrong anywhere, but at least.

672
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: I can go and tell somebody about why I went

673
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: wrong and stuff like that. I can tell the family

674
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: members even that you.

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: Know he's better with evil. You know, you say, I

676
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: know what's going on over here, like I don't know

677
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: what language, and I don't know this look.

678
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: Right in your face talking about you.

679
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I just can't trust that.

680
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: You like, yeah, we're gonna kill him after this, so

681
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 5: we right.

682
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I could be like she missing, like you can't help

683
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: you all are off. You know what.

684
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: Country was that we said in a different language, like

685
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 5: we can't help.

686
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: You be like what No, But it's a great experience,

687
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: like I was. I feel like you conquered fears by

688
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: doing that. I was swinging over a jungle over a waterfall,

689
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: like swinging on a big swing like that was just

690
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: you know, I was riding the mopads in the jungle

691
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: in the mud, come on like that. Those are life

692
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: experiences that you know you can always say you're done.

693
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 5: I would probably do that.

694
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: It depends on what's under me when i'm what was

695
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 4: under you when you were swinging on the.

696
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: Road the jungle literally and a waterfall, so like, how

697
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: how was I was? I was high over it, but

698
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I was still swinging all the way over.

699
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: You secured or something? Yeah, okay, if I'm secure.

700
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of life. Yeah, like I love

701
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: I love to you said, yeah, you know when you

702
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: do a little what is.

703
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: It called a little bit too much? Like I'm not

704
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: expect you come from the West Side like you. I

705
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: thought you already know better than to go doing looking

706
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: for something like you ain't.

707
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: We ain't had to look for no trouble like you

708
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: jumping in the cave.

709
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: I think it's the California base. I think that's what

710
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, because I always represented Chicago, Like that's.

711
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: What you know, right, I thought that's right, Chicago has

712
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: right you feel me?

713
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know she's definitely queen in Chicago, Like she's

714
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: definitely one of.

715
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: I won't know how you got into you huge into

716
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: fashion now, that's a huge passion of yours. And I

717
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: see you doing a gang of stuff since when you

718
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: was in New York coming to l A and like

719
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: I see you doing stuff with shoes, doing collapse, doing

720
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: stuff for Nike, doing dope stuff, hoodies, And how did

721
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: you get all into the fashion?

722
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: What's that? What did that passion come from?

723
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: From Chicago?

724
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: Like, you know, our culture was so big on the

725
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: nineties because Jordan inspired you know, our city and if

726
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: you ain't have the Jordan's ju just whack period. You

727
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: ain't have Air Force wants, you were whack period. If

728
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: you ain't have Airmaxes, you were whack.

729
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 5: Right.

730
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: Thank god for the Air Force. Those was forty nine

731
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: and I was that's what I get. My, that was

732
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: my Oh I'm cool right here, this was my niee.

733
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: My wasn't going over fifty dollars now.

734
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: It was lucky though.

735
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: Right you for me?

736
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 5: Thank god?

737
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: Nah. But like just being able to love fashion, growing

738
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: up with art, just being artistic. It was just a

739
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: great experience overall because I took what.

740
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: I learned from the nineties, not even consciously thinking that

741
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: how much I really loved fashion. I had everything like Iceberg,

742
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Tommy Hill, Feeling, Nautica, Old Navy, anything that was popping

743
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: in the nineties, I had it, you know, because that

744
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: was my thing. I enjoyed dressing up, you know, and

745
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: people were like always looking at me weird, like what

746
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: But then it was like some.

747
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: People's like, hey you fresh and fresh and fresh, and you.

748
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Know, so it was cool to just continue to just

749
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: grow into really love fashion. And most people think I'm

750
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: an icon, but I think I have so much more

751
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: levels to go through in the fasher industry. But yeah,

752
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: it's been it's been a cool experience to see where

753
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: I started.

754
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: And where I am now. Paint paint Do I paint?

755
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: No?

756
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: But I love to go to our galleries. I love

757
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: to actually buy paintings collect them.

758
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: I love it. I love art shows.

759
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this, because I'm a person

760
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: I don't understand art at all, Like I don't.

761
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: Understand like it be pictures. I see that.

762
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: I feel like my two year old could script belong

763
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: and do and it be like, yo, this is a

764
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: million that. Like when you go to art galleries, what

765
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: do you focus on or what grabs your eye makes

766
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: you want to buy a painting?

767
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't go to an art gallery without going

768
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: to the art show first to learn more about the

769
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: art artists work, because that's when you grab the business

770
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: card to know like, okay, they have this kind of style,

771
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: you know what you're into. It's really just how you

772
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: interpret a piece of work somebody else done. It's like

773
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: us on the court, like if we're you know, their

774
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: favorite two player, you know they'll tap in in any

775
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: kind of way to learn more about us, to collect

776
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: us you know, like so it's the same thing with art.

777
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: One of my favorite artist is Peter Tunny and I

778
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: walked I was walking in Soho and I remember saying

779
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: this cool graffiti. Think it was like a shoe or

780
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: something and it spelled out some words.

781
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: It was really unique. So I said, okay, like this

782
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: is cool.

783
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: I want to go in to ask if he can

784
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: create something for me because on my mind it said gratitude.

785
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: And he happened to be in his own gallery that

786
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: day and I talked to him. I was like, yes,

787
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: I want a painting, and what I want.

788
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: To do is get it backboard.

789
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: This is what I want the base to be, and

790
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: I want to say gratitude. And he was like, oh yeah,

791
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: I can do that for you, no problem. So he

792
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: got all this piece of like old clippings of myself

793
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: doing like all cool things that I had from high

794
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: school to college and the pro level. He ended up

795
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: like molding on the back of the backboard and then

796
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: painting Gratitude with to teas and I still have the

797
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: pain that I think it was like fourteen thousand dollars.

798
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: But I can make so much money from his piece

799
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: of art. You know, It's like stock X. It's like

800
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: you bond stocks and bonds. It's that kind of thing.

801
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: So it's something that you can always hold, and it's

802
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: like equity.

803
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Really did your coaches used to tell you like, no,

804
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: I want you to get buckets, like go go score

805
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: all of them if you can.

806
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, coach trigger did. She said, I was too nice.

807
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: She did all the time.

808
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: What she taught me was how to take over games,

809
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: because I would get teased, you know, the players to

810
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: say I wouldn't passing a ball or you know, I

811
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: was only thinking about myself when I'm like, oh, really no,

812
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: I just want to I want everybody to do well.

813
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like that was my mindset.

814
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: And so for her to tell me, like take over

815
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: the game, you know, she'd give me a look like take.

816
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: Over the game, and I'm like, right, I never got

817
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: that from I never got that you. You were always

818
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: a team player to me, but you just could score

819
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: so well and so good. I think that intimidate they

820
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: might atimidated other girls because you can do it so well.

821
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: Because you never rubbed me off as like you were

822
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: selfish to me at like never at one point. It's

823
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: just that you scored so good. You like Ellen Iverson

824
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: and Kimball walking them and you know you got that

825
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: same dilemma. But it's like, but I need you to

826
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: get these buckets us.

827
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, in my opinion, a bucket get or

828
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: somebody like who is like you consider like a walking bucket.

829
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: So it's like that's not a selfish person. That's like

830
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: a smart coach gonna tell them to do their special move.

831
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: That's what all like, like your special movies and buckets,

832
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: like do your special moved.

833
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 5: Quit playing around with all this other stuff. Do your

834
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: special move.

835
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: Like like do you specially liked and running the court?

836
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: Like that's why I tell people like you know what

837
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Kids just come in.

838
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: When I was working for the Pistons, they coming in

839
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 4: and you see guys about to do their workout and stuff,

840
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: and I ain't talk to them for a second.

841
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: I'm like, like, man, a couple guys be like man,

842
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 5: they need you to do this.

843
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: I'm like you about trying to do who what I said,

844
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: brou do your special move? Don't show up in some

845
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 4: workout talking about you about to do something you ain't

846
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: never did before, Like do what you do great? Do

847
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: that and then if you get a chance, but do

848
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: your special move up. Boy, I said, you come out

849
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: here trying to do this other stuff that you think

850
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: they want to see.

851
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 5: I said, they ain't gonna never see what you do.

852
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: Good, say, do your special move first and foremost, like

853
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: forget that.

854
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: But you know that generation they think different than us,

855
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they were. We gave

856
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: them everything, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,

857
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: think about all exposure you guys had and I had

858
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: as a female.

859
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: They're having what we you know, we gave that episode.

860
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: It's like it's different now, like everything we worked for

861
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: just basically gave it to that generation. Then now they

862
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: don't understand that part of it. So you know, it's

863
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: a whole different thing, a whole different ball game.

864
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Now. It's about what you're seeing, Like the more visual now,

865
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: like people can see stuff now. Man, we ain't have

866
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: all this internet and stuff. You can see it now.

867
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Like so if you're looking at it every day on

868
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: TV and then you going outside trying it, it's like

869
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: eventually you do it. Like I see some of the

870
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: dunks that you see nowadays, three sixty between the legs,

871
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: un I'm like, never seen that.

872
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: In the nineties and they get paid for it, man

873
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: like that.

874
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, Like I think it's just like the

875
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: human body just kind of evolved once they steady seen

876
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: and it's just.

877
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: I be wondering that sometimes too, like is it the

878
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: food or is they putting stuff in the food? Is

879
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: making us like like I'm telling you when I went, I.

880
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Was think that could be done.

881
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: I was at the Aaron.

882
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: Gordon Zach Levine the Dunk Contest and that was in Toronto.

883
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Bruh.

884
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: Like he just said some of the stuff that was

885
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 4: being done, it was like, come on, doll, Like wait

886
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: a minute, I'm I was tripping it. I was in

887
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: person see, So it wasn't like, oh, it's on TV.

888
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: It's like some of the stuff is like what's going on?

889
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: Like how was none of us wasn't jumping like this.

890
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: Lavigne and Gordon was man and then like you got

891
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 4: this young kids, I ain't coming through now, like come on, man,

892
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: this this kid is like Khalil max size or whatever

893
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: five dunking like Dominique point two point zero.

894
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: Lady five And every time he jumped, his head is

895
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: at the rim, exploding through shoes.

896
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: But Ronnie feels like I've never seen anybody dunk like that.

897
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: So it's like for me, like that is true.

898
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: Shut out running field, shut out running fields.

899
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: That is true.

900
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: So that was one of your moments coming up that

901
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: like in basketball that you.

902
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 3: Remember for him.

903
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: No, I mean like going to y'all games, was you

904
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: donna understand you couldn't even get in there, Like you

905
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: had to be plugged to get in the game, Like

906
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: it was not plugged.

907
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: You're not going to see you guys play.

908
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: Ronnie. What Ronnie did though? For real? Nah, Like like

909
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 5: he's one of them ones.

910
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: Like she said though that when he jumped and done

911
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 4: like you ain't seen this before, like you knew when

912
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: you saw he was special.

913
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 5: And then when KG came and joined them.

914
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, forget about it. It was like, Yo,

915
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: this like the biggest show in town. Literally, like bro

916
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: like everything when everything went down with him in the accident,

917
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: like come on man, like oprah MJ them.

918
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: Type of people showed up to the hospital to see him.

919
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: I felt like like when Nipsy died, That's what I

920
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: felt like with Ronnie, you know what I mean, Like

921
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: I was like, how, yeah, how.

922
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 5: Could that happen, bro, that happened the night.

923
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: We were supposed to play them next day in the

924
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: playoffs and they beat us. They beat us without him.

925
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: No lie brother remember his little brother. It was a

926
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: little brother named like Rosco or something. Little brother was

927
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: on the Yeah. They was like we was like yo,

928
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: one of those things where the spirit didn't move the team.

929
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 5: We were supposed to smack them. They had Michael right

930
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: after that.

931
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: That was like it Mike right, you had some great

932
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: basket word God bless that might right right word like

933
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 4: right was cool dude and super super that dog. You know,

934
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: we teammates on the ninety eight Junior Olympic tween.

935
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: You want to go together USA team.

936
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: That's crazy though, Like I don't know we I mean,

937
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: there's a lot of legends, like to see Ronnie Feels

938
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: had that much, you know behind this stuff.

939
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: It was impactful and it's cool to talk about it.

940
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: It's like I feel like we kind of got getting

941
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: it off our chest talking about.

942
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: How that feel though, Like you just was saying that

943
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: just made me think about what you saying that Like

944
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: the roster of people, the hoopers in the in the cold,

945
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: people out of Chicago, like your name is up in

946
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 4: the middle of like I'm talking about with all the dudes,

947
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: like your name is up and and like you one

948
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: of them ones?

949
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 5: Though, Like how that feel shit right up in there?

950
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: It feels cool?

951
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: You know It's I like you hear that every single day,

952
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, Like, so it's cool to my own Chicago

953
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: people telling me like yo, like you did that.

954
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, dangn Like for real, I did? You know

955
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?

956
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: That gives me like great hope, you know what I

957
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: mean that people appreciating my game, you know, because sometimes

958
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: I feel like people ain't really appreciate my game because

959
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: it was so distinctive and different. You know, when people

960
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: think about Chicago basketball, think about all the players, you

961
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: know yourself, you know, the guards like d Rose, Isaiah Thomas.

962
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: But it was no girl like that but me, you know,

963
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: so it was different and people don't understand that. And

964
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: I had a lot of backlash, you know, from the

965
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: way I played because it was aggressive.

966
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: It was like in your face.

967
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: So.

968
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: You know, like, but it was love, you know what

969
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean. It was just like that was our go

970
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: to to survive. That got us off the streets to

971
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: not do anything else. So it's like our passion for it.

972
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: It's just different.

973
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: What is something ridiculous that you bought that you was like, man,

974
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I thought that I spent that much money on that,

975
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: like we all did, we all a bit bit by thebove.

976
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: But what is something that you paid something ridiculous price?

977
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: Matter of fact? Let me change that. Let me change that.

978
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask your actually because that you

979
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 2: know what I think about it, Like cappy, why would

980
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: you okay?

981
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Okay?

982
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: So basically like coming from a Dubai trip and I

983
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: saw a watch nineteen.

984
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Why were I in the airport though?

985
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: Like you were?

986
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: No, it was nineteen k or.

987
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Watch in the airport in the airport and you just

988
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: wanted that watch then?

989
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: And now I did? It was different.

990
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: I was like I worked hard, you deserve it, But

991
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't flexing though.

992
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: No, no, we know that, we just but it was

993
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: like it wasn't like nah, let me correct that. It

994
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: wasn't like you wasn't doing it in the in it

995
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: like in the showing off type way. That's like time out.

996
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: You just say you put team watch. That's flexing. That's flexing.

997
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 4: I don't mean like you out here being a little

998
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: buttthead about it, like I got like you you dang you.

999
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: You worked hard, you earned it right there. You treat

1000
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: yourself one time. That was a look I did.

1001
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: That was a flex that was that was you still

1002
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: have that watch?

1003
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: No somebody actually stole it. Oh no you did not.

1004
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: But it's just it's just it's just crazy, right, nothing,

1005
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy.

1006
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1007
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: You know, I'm working the thief, not working the thiefs.

1008
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: It's just the nature we live in. Like everybody knows that.

1009
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: That's the part of the game. Like we're we're at

1010
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: a level where.

1011
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 5: Like you know, you gotta live on Back from Dubai,

1012
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 5: that was a lot of humble.

1013
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: The whole the whole story was like the way to

1014
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: Barrow Like ya, I was on the way back from Dubai.

1015
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 5: I thought it looked nice, he said, nineteen. I said,

1016
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 5: how what you was on the trip? Yeah? That's you know,

1017
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: that's a blessing, though, that's a blessing.

1018
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: What's the first thing you bought when you got some money? Like,

1019
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: what's the first like when you send your bank account

1020
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: and they hit six figures and he was like, oh man,

1021
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: the house. Yes's straight up you know, I'm just straight up,

1022
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: that's what's up.

1023
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: Somebody at the table got some sins. He's one of us.

1024
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, we ain't going down. The first thing we

1025
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 4: got with no house, I got a chain big enough.

1026
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 4: I put that thing down about three times. I got

1027
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 4: some of the chain. In some ways. It ain't the change,

1028
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: you know, Bracelet.

1029
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to get new to this social media

1030
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's stuff that I was kind of

1031
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: seeing on social media about you. But I'll be knowing

1032
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: you be speaking. I just want to word the question

1033
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: right to get you to talk on panels and stuff

1034
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: you'd be going to speak on.

1035
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: Just a basically, I was an angel hair investor for

1036
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: a company I started in twenty ten, and I was

1037
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 2: using my own money to fund my company, and I

1038
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: had somebody obviously that wasn't agreeing with the partnership, and

1039
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 2: you know, ended up being a crazy situation. I found

1040
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: out a lot of different things were happening about with

1041
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: the company. So it sparked my interest to learn more

1042
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: about financial literacy. And I met a my mentor, Rashawn Williams,

1043
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: and Rashawn just said, you know what, two thousand and eight,

1044
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: I lost all my money on Wall Street, every inch

1045
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: that I saved up for sixteen years. So he inspired

1046
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: me just to continue to keep going to learn about investing.

1047
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: And you know he started he was working in tech

1048
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: and working in tech being involved with these top companies

1049
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: at Silicon Valley. You know, you see all the VC

1050
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: deals that are passing through and you're like, okay, like, okay,

1051
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: this is how you gnain generational wealth. I'm like, and

1052
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: it's easy by just investing money that we splurged on

1053
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: earlier in our career. By just investing that money and

1054
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: then in a return part of it, you know, after

1055
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: IPO drop, then you can see the return of that

1056
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: money that you invest in. So like, just little things

1057
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: like that that we missed growing up. It just sparked

1058
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: the interest because I'm like, you know, we shouldn't athletes entertaining,

1059
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to be involving, you know, something crazy, you

1060
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: know every time, And I'm like, why not teach the

1061
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: next generation.

1062
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: So they won't have to go through what we went through.

1063
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's golden actually because it's opened my eyes up

1064
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: to so much stuff with even decisions that I make now,

1065
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: Like I don't even care if somebody thinks I'm broke, Okay,

1066
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 2: go ahead think it, you know what I mean, Like cool,

1067
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: you see me, I'll probably wear the same jeans and

1068
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'll switch up the shirt little things like that,

1069
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, because it's like I don't mind saving my money, yeah,

1070
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: you know, And I think that's the difference, knowing, like

1071
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: resetting the mind, the thermostack, the financial thermostack.

1072
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Going through what I went through made me have a

1073
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: whole new outlook on certain things. Certain things that I

1074
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: feel like it is valuable, certain things that I feel

1075
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: like it's not valuable. So as you get older, like

1076
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I kind of went through that stage. Now, I'm just

1077
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: so focused and I'm so much in detail when I'm

1078
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: doing any business with anything or anybody. So it's just

1079
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you got to bump your head to

1080
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: find out, you know, what it really is to get

1081
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: your stuff together. And I'm growing out with kids or

1082
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions it just shouldn't be made instead

1083
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: of you being out here by yourself, you know.

1084
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all a part of it, you know,

1085
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Like basketball was just a small window to help us

1086
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: through life, you know what I'm saying, Like we just

1087
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: chose something cool, you know what I mean.

1088
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: We're blessed.

1089
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: We just show something really really cool to really be

1090
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: passionate and make a living from it.

1091
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: You know, it's we're special. It's a chosen few.

1092
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't have that opportunity. So and it don't stop

1093
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: as long as you keep going, that's what happens.

1094
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, out of all these kids and all these kids

1095
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: coming up, they like you the one. Like it was

1096
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: surreal for me, Like I know how you feel when

1097
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: you be like man, it's so real that that everybody

1098
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: liked me and think I'm just this nice basketball player

1099
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: and it supposed to stay that way for just like ever.

1100
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: So it was surreal going from where I was coming

1101
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: from to something as big as this and do it

1102
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: with somebody that I looked up to too, and get

1103
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: a chance to get drafted with him, like crazy, especially

1104
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: for the City. Top five female basketball players ever.

1105
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: Shirl Swoops, Don Staley, dont I used to love.

1106
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: Lisa Leslie first uncle ever w Tina Thompson. That lipstick,

1107
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1108
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: She's killing. Lipstick used to kill. That's how she used

1109
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: to stand up. Real talk though, like not being funny

1110
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. She stood out to me because

1111
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: she had lipstick on and she used to be out

1112
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: there putting numbers up, double dubling and all that stuff

1113
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: like killing.

1114
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: Nah, she no, she's she definitely was her own person. Yeah,

1115
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: she brought fashion to the game. And I would say,

1116
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: Tacher Pin and Cheryl was like pen and Cheryl, I'm like,

1117
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: how are you like? Basketball wasn't even that developed, Like

1118
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: how are you doing?

1119
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: How are you doing that?

1120
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: She was like a Jason williamsed to be. She used

1121
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: to be like doing the craziest passes. That's what your

1122
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: mind the w NBA white chocolate like Jason wizh he's

1123
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: dming like that. I like that too.

1124
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably So that's that Top five choose.

1125
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a hard one right here. You gotta

1126
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 4: start one, you gotta bench one, and you gotta cut

1127
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: the other one. Mm And you know I'm gonna be

1128
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: controversial here.

1129
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

1130
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: We got MJ Michael, Jeffrey Jordan, we got Kobe Kobe

1131
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 4: Bean Bryant, and we got Lebron James. Start bench cut Bron.

1132
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: You gotta go, you know, but we could do you know,

1133
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: production and content, you know, you know what I'm saying.

1134
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: Like that's how we roll. That's how we roll.

1135
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, MJ, because like honestly, like he inspired me

1136
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: watching him on WG and nine.

1137
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: Please, we're watching every and I'm like I'm dictating.

1138
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the screen like, yeah, we got this.

1139
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: He shot.

1140
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: Like so like and Kobe was the closest thing to

1141
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: that after Jordan retired, you know what I mean.

1142
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 5: So so you starting m J.

1143
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: Mentioning Kobe and you're gonna cut But.

1144
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: I got love for all everybody.

1145
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: That's that's why I say it's controversial because it's such

1146
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 4: a such a it is like the three is just

1147
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: just to be mentioned in it alone.

1148
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: It's greatness. Yeah, you can't lose, but it's just a

1149
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: fun game.

1150
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely a fun game.

1151
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 2: Like like you said, honestly, to even say you can

1152
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: get to that level, I think it's super cool because

1153
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: the fact that you're debatable, that's what I'm saying, you

1154
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like in that convo to be

1155
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: in that it's.

1156
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: Cool to be debatable, you know.

1157
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: But like for me, I feel like the person is

1158
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: who you represent, it's who you look up to, who

1159
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: inspired you.

1160
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. The end of the day

1161
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: because somebody inspired all of us to be great. You

1162
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1163
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: So it's just who you are, you know what I mean.

1164
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: Just depend on who you are, because some people say birds,

1165
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: some people say magic, some people say you.

1166
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1167
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 4: Like, we want to definitely thank the legendary CAP for

1168
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 4: coming out and rocking with us.

1169
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 5: This was very special.

1170
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: Chicago in the house, w NBA Hall of Fame all

1171
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: the time, great in the building. Yeah, you know what

1172
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And she's Chicago very own everybody.

1173
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I represent.

1174
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: Yo.

1175
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,440
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1176
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: check us out.

1177
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: We out here. We getting it in knuckleheads yeat