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Speaker 2: Still just not even looking to attack Dante DiVincenzo, Mike Conley, Nikkeil,

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Speaker 2: But like Lebron pretty much hasn't gone to that. My

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Speaker 2: over the course of that game, go Bear held up

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Speaker 2: But if you were taking those against a player that's,

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be much more of a knockdown,

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Speaker 2: a misread on my part before the series, not accounting

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Speaker 2: enough for just the unrelenting physicality that Minnesota brings to

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Speaker 2: Ant was able to get into the paint for easy

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Speaker 2: basic level, strategically, just look at the total of points.

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Speaker 2: You just were able to hold Minnesota down, even though

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Speaker 2: You can do it, but you are going to fatigue.

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Speaker 2: You're going to fatigue faster. The Lakers will let go

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Speaker 2: A couple other specific things with Laker role players. I

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Speaker 2: JJ for holding his minutes down. Again, Ruby Hatchamura only

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Speaker 2: Rudy was closing out. But like, that's playoff basketball, Ruy, like,

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Speaker 2: that mattering with Lebron and with Luca not being in

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Speaker 2: to take a jumper, and Brooke took like two steps

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00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: out to the top of the key and Tyree's just

435
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: went right around and made it literally made him look

436
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: like he was stuck in the mud, had a dunk.

437
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: He blew by him for a drop off to Siakam

438
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 2: in the second half. Finally, late in the game, Brooke

439
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: was like, I can't keep getting beat off the dribble,

440
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: so he just played way back and then Tyre's burned

441
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: him by hitting a three right in his face at

442
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: the top of the key, so like that didn't work.

443
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: The Pacers even looked super prepared for the scram switches,

444
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: and this is something I want to credit the Indiana

445
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: coaching staff, Rick Carlisle and his guys. We saw the

446
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: Bucks do that with Dame quite a bit in the

447
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 2: regular season, and so they clearly scouted it and they

448
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: were ready for it. There was one where Dame scrammed

449
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: out to the left corner to get Obi topping, but

450
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: right as he was scramming, right as he was sprinting

451
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: over there, Obi just cut back door through the lob

452
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: and he got a dunk. There's another one where he

453
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 2: was sprinting like literally he was in the process of

454
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: sprinting to go to Nie Smith in the right corner.

455
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: The Pacers identified it immediately. Swing swing hit Nee Smith

456
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 2: in the right corner. He knocked down a three. They

457
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: were going at Dame just one on one. They realized

458
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: that he can't get a great contest on pull up

459
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: jump shots, so they were hitting pull up jump shots

460
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 2: in his face. They just were prepared for every single

461
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: thing that the Bucks tried to do. Still did a

462
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: lot of just just damage in transition in this game.

463
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: Out of their one hundred and eight possessions, forty five

464
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: of them were logged by Synergy as pushing the ball

465
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: with pace, and on those possessions they logged in one

466
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: twenty four offensive rating.

467
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: TJ.

468
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: McConnell did a bunch of damage on like semi transition

469
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: drives in those situations before the help defense was set up.

470
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: And I remained just completely impressed by Indiana's collective team

471
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: jump shooting. They were seventh as a team in jump

472
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: shooting in the regular season. They averaged one point zero

473
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: seven points per jump shot as a team throughout the

474
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: unit throughout the season, they got one point two to

475
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: three points per jump shot. In Game one and one

476
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: point two to two points per jump shot. In game two,

477
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: they have just consistently burned the Bucks every single time

478
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: they've made a mistake. And that was, honestly the larious

479
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: part about the late game comeback. Right, So the Bucks

480
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: actually cut this lead down to three, I believe late

481
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: it was at least as two or three. I think

482
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: they actually cut it to two. It was one fifteen

483
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: to one to thirteen. A couple of things that were

484
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: working offensive the same Giannis offensive rebound, put backs around

485
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,959
Speaker 2: the basket. Bobby Portus hit a couple threes, Dame hit

486
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: a big three at the top of the key. They

487
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: hit some shots, but on the other end of the floor,

488
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: pacers were still getting great looks and they just missed them.

489
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: Like Tyres Halliburton got a wide open look in that

490
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: stretch that he missed, Miles Turner got a wide open

491
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: look in that stretch that he missed. Pascal Siakam got

492
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: a wide open look in that stretch that he missed.

493
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: They were just open looks that the pacers were missing.

494
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: And so what was funny is Dame hits the shot

495
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: that cuts it to three, and then on the very

496
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: next possession they leave Pascal Siakam wide open again and

497
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: this time he makes it and effectively ends the game.

498
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: Is a really weird kind of like double low man

499
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: look from Bobby Portis and Kyle Kuzma. Miles Turner was

500
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: sitting around the right block and Kuzma went way inside

501
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: of Miles Turner, and so Portis and Kuzma were both

502
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: standing inside of Miles Turner while Siakam was outside of

503
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: Miles Turner way out at the three point line, just

504
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: to try to kind of set up the geometry for

505
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: you guys, like, and it was as good a look

506
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: as the Pacers got all game. And so it's one

507
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: of those things where like it felt more like a

508
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: fake comeback there from the Bucks late because they were

509
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: still conceding the same shots they had been conceded all game.

510
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: They were just hitting on one end of the floor

511
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: and the Pacers went cold for a little bit on

512
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: the Bucks front. It's really hard to come up with

513
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: real solutions. There isn't really a coverage they can run

514
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: with Brook Lopez that that works. Like if you run

515
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: a drop coverage, that's suicide against Tyrese Haliburton. He's got

516
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: all the mid range and floater shot making right if

517
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: you run a high drop coverage. Tyrese is arguably a

518
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: top three or four pick and roll passer in the league,

519
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: probably closer to two or three pick and roll passer

520
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: in the league in terms of just making basic reads

521
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: on where the low man is and where the screen

522
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: defender is, and if you come up and put two

523
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: on the ball with him, whether it's a high drop

524
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: or a blitz or anything like that, he's going to

525
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: pick you apart with the pass. Then if you switch.

526
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: He's just way too slow footed to be able to

527
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: handle Haliburton in space. And the team doesn't really have

528
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: a backside kind of like rotational fly around athleticism element

529
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: to copy to compensate for the dribble drives that Lopez

530
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: is going to give up, so they don't really have

531
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: a coverage there that works. Portis and Kuzma aren't exactly

532
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: defensive answers. Like I talked about it, the Pacers were

533
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 2: still getting open looks. I would probably still go with

534
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: them and still switch like they have been, especially with

535
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: as well as Bobby Portis has been shooting the ball

536
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Kuzma did. Finally, I felt bad for Kyle early

537
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: in the game. He smoked two wide open layups. No,

538
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say wide open laps are tough layups. He

539
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: had a kind of like a step through layup against

540
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: a small attacking mismatch, and then he had a pass

541
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: from Giannis where he was right at the rim that

542
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: he just smoked, and it looked like it was going

543
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: to keep spiraling, but he just kept being aggressive and

544
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: he did finally manage to bring some scoring pop to

545
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: the table. I do like the idea of leaning into

546
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: those two more and switching. Most of it is going

547
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: to be about process from there. You have to run

548
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: good offense to avoid precarious transition situations. So like someone

549
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: tell Kevin Porter Junior that he shouldn't even look at

550
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: taking a shot unless there's like three seconds on the

551
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: shot clock, or if it's like a wide open shot

552
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: in the coverage, like it's a drop coverage and they

553
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: stay with Giannis and you've got a layup, or they

554
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: die on the screen and you've got like an all

555
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: day a pull up three something like that. That's fine,

556
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: but there were way too many possessions. There was one

557
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: where like Giannis was calling, like demanding the ball on

558
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: the block and Kevin Porter Junior took a pull up

559
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: three on the right wing, and the Pacers just ran

560
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: out and got a bucket off of it. Like there's

561
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: there's certain like offensive process stuff that you have to

562
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: do in order to avoid those transition situations, and then

563
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: just in general just setting up your floor spacing in

564
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: a way that you still have guys that are back

565
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: and ready to contend with the pacers in transition. The

566
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Dame thing is interesting. I thought Dame was an absolute

567
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: nightmare on defense tonight. He ended up providing what like

568
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: fourteen points on thirteen shots if I remember correctly. I

569
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: don't have the box score up, but he wasn't exactly

570
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: a super efficient score. I get it, like you almost

571
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: feel like you have to play Dame. I don't know

572
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: how you explain to Dame or to your fans the

573
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: idea that like you're to like sit him or limit

574
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: his minutes in a series like this, because if you

575
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: lose and you have Dames just sitting on the bench,

576
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: that's a really, really tough pill to swallow if you're

577
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: a fan, right, But it's just tough because Dame is

578
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: out of rhythm clearly, and he brings a lot of

579
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: defensive issues and so honestly, it's just a gamble.

580
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: I get it.

581
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: I'd probably make the same gamble, but like I wish

582
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: there was a way to manage it in a way

583
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: where like you almost like come up with a minute

584
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: restriction or something to kind of ramp him up. Over

585
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: the course of the series. It's far more likely that

586
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: in a game five, six, or seven that Dame brings

587
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: more offensive pop than he did at this phase in

588
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: the series, And tonight I thought he probably did a

589
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: little bit more damage than good. And so it's just

590
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: honestly a really, really tough position to be in if

591
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: you're Milwaukee, And as you dig into it, it really

592
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: just comes.

593
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Down to roster issues. Now this one.

594
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to bail on my pick yet. The

595
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: Bucks could certainly regain control of things in Milwaukee, especially

596
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: if Dame gets going. But it look good for them,

597
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: and the matchup continues to present some clear problems for

598
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: their defensive scheme that have been on display throughout the

599
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: first two games. All right, let's do ten fifteen minutes

600
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: of questions with Jackson.

601
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it. We are going to

602
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: start with Jason does a physical rock fight series like

603
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: this favor the Lakers or the Warrior or the Wolves

604
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: as the series goes, for it.

605
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: The more physical the series is, the more the refs

606
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: let both teams get away with, the better it is

607
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: from Minnesota, for sure. I think that I think that

608
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: goes without saying. I think if there happened to be

609
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: a game in the series, and you know how it is,

610
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: there's different officiating crews, right, Like I thought tonight was

611
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: a game where they actually called quite a few fouls

612
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: on both teams, but at the same time, there were

613
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: a lot of uncalled fouls. But it was one of

614
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: those games where there was like at least a dozen

615
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: fouls on like every possession, like everyone's just getting hacked

616
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: all over the place. And I do think that favors Minnesota.

617
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like that is playoff basketball,

618
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: and so at the end of the day, like that

619
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: is the challenge for the Lakers. And I mean, if

620
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: you can somehow survive this series, even though Golden State

621
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: in round two or Houston, like Houston I actually think

622
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: presents similar problems to the Lakers that that Minnesota does.

623
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: But if you get a Golden State, if you get

624
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: an OKC in later rounds. Those teams don't have the

625
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: sheer size that can cause problems for you. But Minnesota.

626
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota definitely is benefiting from the whistle.

627
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree they were. I mean it, there

628
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: were There's a lot of online chatter and today about

629
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: how the refs were handing the Lakers that game, and

630
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: I think that, whether that's true or not, I think

631
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: it's a it's an encapsulation of the fact that when

632
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: the whistle is tighter, it's gonna benefit the team that's

633
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: less physical because those some of those more physical players

634
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: are getting called.

635
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: The Blakers got called for two more fouls in Minnesota.

636
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: That's literally fantasy Land.

637
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't really have any issues with

638
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: the way the game is refree. I thought it was

639
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: the whistle was a little tight, but it was equally

640
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: tight both ways.

641
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was tight in a way that was

642
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: like they were like there were a lot of foul calls,

643
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: but there were also a lot of uncalled foul calls

644
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: like like but yeah, dude, any converse surrounding the Lakers

645
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: and in officiating is like completely disingenuous. I saw that

646
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: all day today during the game, and it's like literally

647
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: throughout the entire game, the Lakers had more foul called

648
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: fouls called against them in Minnesota. It's like it's legitimately

649
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: fantasy land. But as you if you do any even

650
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: just like a little bit of basic research on the

651
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: Laker foul disparity thing, it's completely horseshit. It's just fantasy

652
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: land from other fan base.

653
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: This is a supertat from jam. Thank you for the

654
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: supertach question. How can Ant get more point in the

655
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: paint against LA's defense Outside of the poster dunk, it

656
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: almost seemed like Luca was more aggressive driving to the

657
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: rim than An.

658
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: I feel like Ant got to the basket quite a

659
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: bit tonight. The way that the Lakers were guarding him.

660
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: They were I thought Ruey actually did a pretty decent job,

661
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: but I want to credit Rui a little bit, Like

662
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: he was able to cut off Ant's first drive a

663
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: bunch of times and then flatten out his second drive,

664
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: So credit to Ruie. I actually thought he played some

665
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: really good defense tonight. He had a huge sequence late

666
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: in the game too, where he had i'll help side

667
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: rotation at the rim and got a stop and then

668
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: leaked out in transit the other way and got a.

669
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Layup like Ruey.

670
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: I was frustrated with the three point shooting, but he

671
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: made a lot of really nice plays tonight. As far

672
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: as Ant getting into the paint, like a lot of

673
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: it is lineup structure too, Like every single minute that

674
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is on the floor, he's gonna run into

675
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: his second defender. That's just how it goes. If you're

676
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: looking at these Luca drives. They played Jackson Hayes for

677
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: eight minutes, and they play nine minutes, and they played

678
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, vandover like even less. So if you really

679
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: dig into it, thirty minutes of the game, you have

680
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: five shooters on the floor. So as a result of that,

681
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: there's less help at the basket on some of these

682
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: Luca drives compared to what you're seeing from the Lakers.

683
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: And that's how it looks like Lucas getting there easier.

684
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: But most of this is schematic, yeah for sure.

685
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: Next question, do you think Minnesota will use different actions

686
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: to get Ant the ball and get him to the

687
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 3: rim in other ways? Pinned downs, cutting, inverted pick and roll,

688
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: et cetera. Basically, how how do we feel like the

689
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: Wolves can try to get at going a little more

690
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: considering some of these lineup restrictions and some of the

691
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: way the Lakers are defending him.

692
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: It's a good question, I mean a good percentage of

693
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: it is like I thought, I thought i Aint and

694
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: Julius were great tonight, Like guys like we have to

695
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: completely reconfigure the way we.

696
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Look at box scores.

697
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: This is this has been an issue that I've been

698
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: looking at a lot over the course of the last

699
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: few years. Like we talked so much, it's about like

700
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: this guy's averaging thirty four points a game, and it's

701
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: like the teams are averaging like one hundred and twenty

702
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: something points a game, Like this was a game that

703
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: ended ninety four to eighty five. So just do like

704
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: do a like a basic ratio type of calculation. So

705
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: let's say the Lakers scored ninety four and in a

706
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: typical regular season game, it's more like, you know, one

707
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: fourteen to you know, uh to like one oh four

708
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: or something like that. If you count, if you account

709
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: for that, that increase in scoring volume. That night from

710
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards isn't a twenty five point night, It's a

711
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: thirty two point night at that night From Julius Randalls.

712
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Not a twenty seven point night, it's a thirty two

713
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: point night. Like I thought, Aunt and Julius were great tonight.

714
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: The key there is Jaden McDaniels missed the threes that

715
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: he took in game one, Mike Conley missed the threes,

716
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: Nas Reed missed the threes like nikiel Like, they just

717
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: didn't shoot as well. And credit to Lakers, like, I mean,

718
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: what did I say after Game one? I said, if

719
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: you're just sitting here cross from your fingers hoping the

720
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: Wolves are gonna miss, it's not gonna happen. You have

721
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: to bring the requisite intensity to force misses. And it

722
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: goes both ways, Like you want to know why Lebron's

723
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: leaving jumpers short and Luca's leaving jumpers short and no

724
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: one can make anything and both teams shot twenty twenty

725
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: one percent from three. It's because the game is so

726
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: damn physical that everyone's legs are fucking exhausted and no

727
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: one has the power or the energy to knock down shots.

728
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: That's usually how it goes. It's just like there were

729
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: a few more shots that went down for the Lakers tonight.

730
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: It's literally the difference in the game but I actually

731
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: thought Aunt and Julius both played really well tonight.

732
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, especially as scorps like I thought ten

733
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: twenty two and yeah, in a playoff game that physical

734
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: is not all that bad a shooting night. I think

735
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: the bigger number if you're looking at if you're going

736
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: to box for our watch and combine it with the

737
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: way that actually watching the game. Zero assists for Ant

738
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: is the glaring number compared to nine in Game one. Yeah,

739
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: oh sure, you know a lot of that is not

740
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: his fault. It's shot making, a lack of shot making,

741
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: but combined with those more intense closed outs from the Lakers.

742
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: But that's if the Timberwolves want to be at as

743
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: close to optimal offensively as they as they can be.

744
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: It's twenty five thirty points ran and five plus assists.

745
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be nine every game, I don't

746
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: think for them from their win the series, but it's

747
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: got to be more than zero.

748
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. That's a that's a great point.

749
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: I get there is a little bit of a game

750
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: plan element to that, in the sense that the Lakers

751
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: were playing closer to shooters off ball and the reads

752
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: for Ant in Game one were a little bit easier,

753
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: but I agree with you, like it's got to be

754
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: more balanced there. Julius brought up Julius had six assists tonight,

755
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: but yeah, like I I didn't think. I all, we're

756
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: gonna do a film session tomorrow morning, and whoever it

757
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: is that asked that question, if you come back tomorrow,

758
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I will make a pointed effort to dig into Minnesota's

759
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: offense better and see if I can't find some more

760
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: detailed answers for you about how to go from there.

761
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: We had a couple questions about connect and about Jackson

762
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: Hayes and will should those guys get in connect case

763
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: any minutes? But should Jackson Hayes get more minutes? And

764
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of lively debate in the chat.

765
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: Shout out to the chat for those arguing and debating

766
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: on both sides, but just in general, your take on

767
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: why some of these guys who feel like they can

768
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: be contributors because of a specific skill they might have,

769
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: but why are they not getting more playing time or

770
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: any playing time you know in Connects case?

771
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: So as you, as we talked about in the in

772
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: the initial reaction, things can go south so fast if

773
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: you've got a guy who makes mistakes, Like this game

774
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't even have been remotely close late if Jackson Hayes

775
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: doesn't set a completely unnecessary backcourt screen where you just

776
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: straight up trip Jaden McDaniels and then goaltended. Like if

777
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: you look at the Lakers offensive rating, let's just call

778
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: it one point. And then Jackson Hayes blocking a shot

779
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: that literally would have been a miss that would have

780
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: led to another transition possession going the other way, Like

781
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: that was a huge swing there, and a four point

782
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: swing or whatever in a game that finished ninety four

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: to eighty five. The field literally it's like a touchdown.

784
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: It's like when you watch it's like when you were

785
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: watching that Houston Golden State game, Like every step three

786
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: feels like a shotgun blast to the chest because the

787
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: score is so low that, like relative to what we

788
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: look at as regular season scoring, those are massive shots

789
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: in the game, Like Fred van Vliet finally hits a

790
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: three at the end of the game, and all of

791
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's close because there's no real margin, there's

792
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: no real separation because of how physical and how intense

793
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: these games are. But yeah, like I like, do I

794
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: think that Dalton Connect is gonna suddenly step into this

795
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: obscenely physical series and just suddenly bring a bunch of pop. No, like,

796
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: you bring him out the same way you would, like

797
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: we talked about with Jonathan Kminga for Golden State. If

798
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: it's Game three and it's mid third quarter and you're

799
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: down seventeen, and there's a clear guy who's really struggling,

800
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: like let's say Dorian Finney Smith is just straight up

801
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: not having a good night on either end of the floor,

802
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: then yeah, by all means, throw Dalton out there, you

803
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But like, I don't think Jackson

804
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: Hayes is the answer. I don't think Dalton Connect is

805
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: the answer this. This feels very much like a six

806
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: and a half man rotation that the Lakers actually trust,

807
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: and it's basically the core five with Dorian Finney Smith

808
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: gave Vincent a little bit of like Jordan Goodwin, Jared Vanderbilt,

809
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call that extra guy.

810
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: But like, I don't.

811
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: Think they really have a I don't think they have

812
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: an answer on the bench beyond the fact that Austin's

813
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: gotta play better. Austin and I bounced back nicely in

814
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: the second half. But Austin's got to hit some spot

815
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: up threes Lebron Like Austin and Lebron won for eleven

816
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: from three. Those guys gotta knock down shots. Like, I

817
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: don't think this is an end of the bench answer.

818
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: I think this is your core guy's gotta play better.

819
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Look at the minutes Ruy thirty four minutes with a

820
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: with a facial injury that took him out for his

821
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: normal early second quarter shift, Lebron forty, Luca forty two,

822
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Austin forty three, Dorian Finny Smith thirty nine. Like you're

823
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: going down with those guys. Those are the guys you

824
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: got to look for.

825
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Answers from J.

826
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: J Riddick saying, first playoff series as a coach, I'm

827
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: running my guys out there. I think, just to sort

828
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 3: of put a period on the point, though. I saw

829
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: someone say this on Twitter the other day that the

830
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: NBA has shifted in a way away from just which

831
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: team has the best player to which team has the

832
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: worst player on the floor. And it's why Jordan Goodwin

833
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: is getting minutes, not that he's getting a lot, but

834
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: he's getting some minutes over a guy like Dalton connect

835
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: He's not obviously the offensive player that Dalton Connect is,

836
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: but you're not picking on him in a way that

837
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: you would, you know, someone like that, someone Connect.

838
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: Jordan had some incredible defensive sequences tonight. He's good on team,

839
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: great closeouts, beaten guys to spots, fighting for contested rebounds,

840
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: tapping the ball around Like I Jordan played seven minutes.

841
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: I thought he was good when he was out there, Like,

842
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: and that's the thing, like you're these rock fight games

843
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: are an entirely different animal. It is so much more

844
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: about IQ and physicality than it is about top end skill.

845
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Like it just is. That's just how it works, which.

846
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: By the way, is yet another reason why the Lakers

847
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: need to attack Mike Conley and Dante DiVincenzo.

848
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Dude, Jackson, it's killing me, man, it's killing me.

849
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Watch like I I all I can say is I

850
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: hope this is like a Lebron and Luca know deep down,

851
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: like we're gonna go to the post later in the

852
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: series if there was, If you're Lakers fans and you're

853
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: looking for, you know, something to drive home that point.

854
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: I think about Game six against the Warriors two years ago,

855
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: when Lebron wouldn't post up at all, and then finally

856
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: in Game six, he just lived down there and just

857
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: annihilated Andrew Wiggins. Like, that's what you gotta hope for,

858
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: is that Lebron's just saving that for a late series punch,

859
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: and the advantage there would be if you if Lebron

860
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: breaks that out and breaks it out effectively in like

861
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: a pivotal Game five or something like that. It could

862
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: literally be something that happens late enough in the series

863
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: that the Wolves don't have enough time to really game

864
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: plan or adjust to it. But I tend to think

865
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: more urgently. I tend to think, like, let them figure

866
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: out how to adjust to it, but let's throw our

867
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: best punch early. That's more my philosophy. But who knows,

868
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: it could literally be the growing Like we don't know

869
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: what's going on with Lebron mentally and what he trust him,

870
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: what he doesn't.

871
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: Let's take a couple from some other series. We had

872
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: a lot of Lakers questions, Uh, if Tatum's wrist is

873
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: a factor for the whole postseason, A, what does that

874
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: change your outlook for the Celtics? And B is there

875
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: a way for the Celtics to game plan around that he's.

876
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Last I checked, he's doubtful or maybe upgrade to questionable

877
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: for Game two. But my guess is he's not gonna

878
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: play tomorrow.

879
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: Did he get upgraded to questionable?

880
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: Someone in the chat said he's questionable last I saw.

881
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: I saw doubtful. Yeah, I did see the doubtful thing.

882
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: My first thing that I thought when I saw the

883
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: Tatum is doubtful thing is like, oh shit, Like Jalen

884
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: Brown's a little banged up, Tatum's a little banged up.

885
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: A couple guys aren't shooting as well as last year,

886
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: Like there's some obvious signs for concern. But the more

887
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: I thought about it, Uh, it could almost be a

888
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: blessing in disguise if it gets Tatum to take less

889
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: jump shots, you know what I mean, Like, like if

890
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: it if it turns into a thing where Tatum goes

891
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: like man like I don't really trust my jumper or

892
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: further away from the basket because of this wrist issue,

893
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: and he just becomes a physical bullyball playmaker, it could

894
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: still manifest Well.

895
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I would actually say that I'm more worried.

896
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: About I would be more worried about a different Celtic,

897
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: like Horford or porzingis going down, or Jalen Brown just

898
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: not bringing the requisite scoring pot because of his knee.

899
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: Tatum is just so versatile and so much of his

900
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: game is predicated on like all these little things that

901
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: he does well. And the jump shooting is like kind

902
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: of one of those things where it's like Tatum can

903
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: go three for twelve on jump shots and have a

904
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: great game. I mean, I feel like that's half of

905
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Tatum's games. Like, so the reality is is like Tatum

906
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily need his jump shot to be great, and

907
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: so I'm less concerned about him in his wrist, if

908
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

909
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think that the first

910
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: for this series shouldn't you gotta assume it's not going

911
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: to matter whether Orlando looks. You know, they got a

912
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: tough defense, they're physical, they present some matchup challenges. But

913
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: if you got the aspirations of the Celtics too, you

914
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: gotta be able to get past his team with the

915
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: hobbled Tatum or with him missing a couple of games.

916
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: So I think you gotta think about it more in

917
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: the long term. But I don't know, risks are weird.

918
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: It's hard, it's tough. I hope it's not. It doesn't

919
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: become this this cloud over the postseason run, Like, well,

920
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: if only Tatum's risk was healthy, you know what I mean, Like,

921
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 3: I it's tough if they if they are able to

922
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: get a sweep here without him and he gets some

923
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: time off hopefully, I'm hoping it just is not a

924
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: non issue.

925
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: My next Have you ever had a risk injury?

926
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: I have, yeah, go ay quickly.

927
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: I haven't had a severe one until recently. And then I, uh,

928
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: my guy Daniel Knorka, one of my favorite players here

929
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: in town that I compete with and against, big dude,

930
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: like six four two forty, and I kind of like

931
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: caught him on a transition possession. He was coming full

932
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: speed at me, and I like inverted my risk this way.

933
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: And that was like six months ago. And it hurts

934
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: worse now than it ever has. It lingers, and it

935
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: it's like, thankfully it's my non shooting hands, so it

936
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: hasn't had that big of an impact, but like there

937
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: are so many different little things that I'll try to

938
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: do and it hurts, and I'm like, fuck, this sucks,

939
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Like it's just such a pain in the ass, Like

940
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: wrist injuries. They just linger and they linger and they linger.

941
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: Like it's very possible that he's dealing with this for

942
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: the rest of the playoff run. It's at least worth considering.

943
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm just if there was a star in this league

944
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: that could withstand something like that, it'd be Tatum because

945
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: of his versatility.

946
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great point. I think that's

947
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: a great point.

948
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Do you think Dame.

949
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: Would be better off coming off the bench and running

950
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: the second unit?

951
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: No, uh, I would, And I mean I feel like

952
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: they did do this tonight, Like I felt like they

953
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: more or less played through Jianis when he was on

954
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: the floor. I think Dame should be more aggressive with

955
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: the bench units, like that's his time to look to

956
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: be aggressive. What I would have done is I would

957
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: have limited his minutes earlier in the series, still starred him,

958
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: but limited his minutes. Play him off the ball when

959
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: he's with Yiannis, play him on the ball when he's

960
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: without Yannis. The I don't think the answer is like,

961
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: like people focus on this like coming off the bench

962
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: like were to me, like doing that with Dame doesn't

963
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: solve the problem. You can stagger to deal with that.

964
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: So like for instance, you could have Dame come out

965
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: at like the seven minute mark of the first quarter,

966
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: bringing Kevin Porter Junior, then bring Dame back in to

967
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: start the second quarter when Giannis comes out, or something

968
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: along those lines. There are ways to work around it

969
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: so that you can still keep Dame with bench units

970
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: without necessarily having to bring him off the bench.

971
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: I agree with you. All right, let's see one more

972
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: question this. I like the way the way this question

973
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: was worded was funny. Said, assuming Cleveland wins the East,

974
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: quite the assumption, but assuming Cleveland wins the East, who

975
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: would you have facing them in the NBA Finals? And

976
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: I think a more apt question is if we if

977
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: we end up with two one seeds in the finals,

978
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: certainly possible, who would you have in okay See Cleveland matchup?

979
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: I would say you okay See. I think okay See

980
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: is like the ultimate like antidote for everything Cleveland does.

981
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: They have just a shit ton of fast, like great

982
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: perimeter defenders that aren't necessarily big, and Cleveland just doesn't

983
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: have the ability to punish like.

984
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter can do it a little bit.

985
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: You can see, you know, Evan Mobley do it a

986
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: little bit, but they're not necessarily a big like matchup

987
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: attacking team. In terms of attacking like smaller players, that's

988
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: not something that they do extremely well. They're more of

989
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: a speed attack and Oka See is just like the

990
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: ultimate speed and fly around team. I'd like as far

991
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: as matchups go, I can't think of a worst matchup

992
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: for Cleveland than Oka See. I am also like really

993
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: intrigued by just how good Golden State is, by how

994
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: good this Minnesota and LA these two teams are. If

995
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: you told me right now, like OKAC or the field

996
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: in the West, it's pretty much a coin flip to me. So, like,

997
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: I still think there's a pretty solid chance that we

998
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: don't see Okace in the finals.

999
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that OKAC versus the Field question is really really interesting.

1000
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: I think I would get at the field as well.

1001
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: Okay See does so many things better than so many teams,

1002
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: but the West is looks strong. The West looks really strong.

1003
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, you can be the favorite and

1004
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: still be statistically unlikely to do something like that. That's

1005
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: a very important thing to understand. Like, as far as

1006
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: I understand, okay See is currently the championship favorite in Vegas,

1007
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: but but they are statistically unlikely to win the championship,

1008
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: like it's more likely that it's somebody else, and so

1009
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: it's it's one of the that it's just something to

1010
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: keep in mind. But I yeah, I think okay See

1011
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: would I think okay See would handle Cleveland. I think

1012
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: they'd deal with him in you know, five or six games.

1013
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 3: The DraftKings answer to our question is what is okay

1014
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: See versus the field? Is okay See is a minus

1015
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: one sixty five conference favorite right now, so they're slightly

1016
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: favorite over the field.

1017
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me. That is crazy to me.

1018
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 3: You want to guess who's second? Golden State indeed plus

1019
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: six hundred.

1020
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: Wow, that's really fascinating.

1021
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: Very fascinating. I'm surprised the Clippers are at plus one thousand,

1022
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: they're fourth, Lakers are at a fifty.

1023
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: A dude, I like weirdly came away from the first

1024
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: two games of Nuggets Clippers like like a little bit,

1025
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: like just a tiny bit down on both of them,

1026
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Like like it's it's weird, Like I shouldn't say a

1027
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: tiny bit down on both of them. I've viewed the

1028
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: Clippers as like closer to OKC and Denver is like

1029
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: well below them, and I viewed the Clippers a little lower,

1030
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: and I view the Nuggets higher, but they still now

1031
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: both are are substantially below. It's just it's more just

1032
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: all of them, like Minnesota, La, Golden State, Denver Clippers.

1033
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: One of those five is going to survive this mess

1034
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: and end up in a knockdown, drag out fight with

1035
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: OKC that could go either way, is the point, and

1036
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: that that's where I see it, as like the field

1037
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: has an advantage there. I shouldn't even say advantage, I

1038
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: mean coin flip, but you get the point.

1039
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: All right, let's call it for the night. We'll be

1040
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: back tomorrow morning.

1041
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: All right, Day four in the books. We're chugging right along, guys.

1042
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: We will have the film session up tomorrow. I want

1043
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: to focus a little bit on Bucks Pacers. I want

1044
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: to show you, guys some of the stuff that Indiana

1045
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: was doing to beat the defensive scheme that Milwaukee deployed,

1046
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: which I thought was fascinating. So we'll cover some stuff there,

1047
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: and then as promised, I'll dig into Minnesota's offense and

1048
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: see if I can find some missed opportunities there. We'll

1049
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: get a film session in and then we'll be back

1050
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. For Golden State Houston Game two. As always,

1051
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys for supporting us and for supporting

1052
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: the show.

1053
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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning. What's up guys?

1054
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1056
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