WEBVTT - TRADE ALERT! Breaking Down the Deadline Deals | Command Center Pod | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are

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<v Speaker 1>talking trades montege Chase. We're breaking down those Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a good trade, is it a bad trade? And we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about what it means moving forward, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we got a segment. It's a lot of fun. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Haters are gonna hate, hate, hate. Hey, Seal get Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I have logan Paulson.

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<v Speaker 1>Here were Santanamos with a big chain on today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Fred.

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<v Speaker 1>Smooth with a couple of jealous with a coup of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph decaf or caffeinated.

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<v Speaker 3>Is caffeinated And I've wondered how do you decaffeinate coffee beans?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But tree that has no.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat I don't think that's how they do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to if you know how they do it,

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<v Speaker 1>please leave a comment. That's always helpful for our distilling

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<v Speaker 1>what's truth and fiction with Fred. So, but yeah, Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>was yesterday. What did you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I did nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>You were you were hyping up Halloween.

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<v Speaker 3>I went out to parties this weekend, but for this Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>no I did nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I handed out candy and I do experiments.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a nerve, so I put like all

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<v Speaker 3>the nerdy I've been a nerd like I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>literally like put a big basket of candy right there,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I put on the other side like funions

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<v Speaker 3>and tato chips and other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see who grabs what, and you would

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<v Speaker 4>be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I went for the chips.

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<v Speaker 3>ND I had to lit crackers with the cheese in

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<v Speaker 3>there because that's how it was getting from the other

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<v Speaker 3>houses with candy. So when they see this switch up,

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<v Speaker 3>my candy bowl stayed full. Really yeah, I gotta I

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<v Speaker 3>got Yeah, my candy bowl stayed full while the others

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<v Speaker 3>got taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go out at all or no? Just what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, do you like go to the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>or I go.

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<v Speaker 2>With the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>I walk around and you know, because people know who

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<v Speaker 3>you are, I be handed out football courts.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime I'm looking like a jerk. Hand here you go, kid, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your what does your son do? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>go with this? Boys?

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<v Speaker 3>And my son is eighteen years old, he's not kicking

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<v Speaker 3>it with pops on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like what they do now,

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<v Speaker 1>like they go, they probably go.

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<v Speaker 3>They went hung out of it, like I hop like

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<v Speaker 3>they got it and I hoped people house, Yeah, steal

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<v Speaker 3>people candy bag stuff like that tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Paper on your tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do nothing. I went to the gym I

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<v Speaker 2>want to l a fitness and got a nice little.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot about l A fitness like on Halloween, him and

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<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein's pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Really Yeah, people think about their weight more than they

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<v Speaker 2>think about these candy and these kids. Man, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>honestly thought. Man, I was planning on doing something every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm gonna do something Halloween, and like what is.

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<v Speaker 1>A grown person doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Allow? Because I got kid dressed up and act like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying dress up. I would probably go to like

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<v Speaker 2>a lounge of a party, but I knew we had

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<v Speaker 2>to get our ass up earlier to day. Like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to like other like parties in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, DC is big on Halloween. Like when I was

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<v Speaker 3>in I was in DC Saturday, I was literally driving around.

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<v Speaker 3>Frankenstein passed me like like riding the school like it.

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<v Speaker 2>DC is lit apart.

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<v Speaker 3>So then you had to go five you old costume

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<v Speaker 3>so you can get in where you fit in.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just went to the party as Fred Smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's awesome man, thank you. Well, yeah, we do

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<v Speaker 1>like the bowl of candy out, you know, we leave

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And like I was leaving, just my kids

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<v Speaker 1>were getting ready for my daughter wanted to start trigger

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<v Speaker 1>tinging like five o'clock yesterday. Yeah, it was like, sonny out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are we doing? And uh so the

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<v Speaker 1>first people came by our house and this little neighbor kid,

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<v Speaker 1>we know, oh the buckets right there. He goes up

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<v Speaker 1>there and I just hear them, just take the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>First kid, And that's why you have to police them.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I give him options.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I was like, hey, man, just

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<v Speaker 1>put some of that back. He's like, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like six. He's like, I don't know, No, IM not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to share this. I want it all all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a lot of stuff to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to do a little recap of the Philly game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the main thing we got to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, it is the trade man.

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<v Speaker 4>When did in the NFL turned to the NBA trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like when did this start?

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<v Speaker 4>Like last year was the best, Yeah, last year was

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was a little bit more location.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, But I still felt like the energy was there,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it felt like for the first time, like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of players didn't know if they was gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>on their tea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good point, which.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of NBA is shut.

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't really NFL like they let you finish out

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<v Speaker 3>the year before. And I think maybe because they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>the contracts a little different now, they willing to let

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<v Speaker 3>go of these contracts.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the team that really.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like they got a chance to win the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>they putting the pedal to the medal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they ain't just waiting back no more.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that, And I think, like, let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with San Francisco, for example, you know, giving

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<v Speaker 1>up a third round pick or a compensitory third round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they have a compensitory pick from their coach

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan I believe in maybe one other player, Jason, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure exactly playing that a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little more compensitory pick.

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<v Speaker 3>They get a pick because of they replace it if

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<v Speaker 3>you lose something.

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<v Speaker 4>They replace it with a pick. Let's just say if

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<v Speaker 4>we lost montig.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a compensitory pick for Brandon Shriff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we did.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes and he gets paid a certain amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money by a different team, and he's considered like

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<v Speaker 1>a cornerstone.

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<v Speaker 2>Piece, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they do is they have like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flux picks at the end of the round, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you get one of those third round flux picks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so trying to understand the compensatory part of

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<v Speaker 2>that pick, like, Okay, you either getting a pick or not.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically like extra picks that the league allocates, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can get a compensory third, fourth, fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>or sixth, maybe seventh even too.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I think about it, the third round, I

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<v Speaker 3>have thirty five picks in it, thirty six picks instead

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<v Speaker 3>of the thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why this is kind of this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit weird. I think a lot of fans

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<v Speaker 1>are maybe upset about it because that compensatory even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's a third round pick, it's a compensatory pick, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's one of the last picks of the third Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be so essentially it plays like a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round like this. Last year we had two compensatory

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round yes, yeah, and they basically play like fifth

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<v Speaker 1>round picks. So you know, I just wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your kind of initial thoughts on that and see see

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys felt, because there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are not feeling too positive about it.

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<v Speaker 4>What I think the way they not feeling feeling good

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<v Speaker 4>about is the fact that he was the number one

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<v Speaker 4>two pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can't think about that he was the

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<v Speaker 3>number two pick four years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what just just a little housekeeping note there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get a couple of compenstory picks, ones for

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<v Speaker 1>the coach, ones for Mike McGlinchey, and then Ray Karthon

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<v Speaker 1>is the other one. They're they're gonna three compensitory picks

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<v Speaker 1>and players that have left.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they just mad because they felt like we

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<v Speaker 3>put more in than we got back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we did, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what, that's the draft. I'm not tell people this

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. I don't care if you got the

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<v Speaker 3>first pick, ten pick, ain't no guarantees and Draga not

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<v Speaker 3>one guarantee and sometimes it ain't the player, it's the place.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I think about Chase, it makes me go

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<v Speaker 3>back to when I was coming out. If I would

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<v Speaker 3>have got drafted by the Saints, my career would have

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<v Speaker 3>started off rocket too, because I was too close to Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 3>too close to my family, too close to home.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is a blessing in.

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<v Speaker 3>Disguise for this guy to actually reach his peak.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's humbling. It's humbling to get traded.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's and you've been and Tenny, you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this a little bit too with your time

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, and I just wonder if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring some of that to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the thing that you know so so I

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<v Speaker 2>get what the fans are talking about, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of hoopla. And sorry fans, hoopla. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a hoopla because I feel like we can't one minute

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<v Speaker 2>be on the fence saying that none of these guys

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<v Speaker 2>deserve to be here, and then the next minute being

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<v Speaker 2>mad when they get shipped out.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, you're not gonna pay them, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we can't be on the fence of saying that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when the season o with everybody gone. But then ask

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<v Speaker 2>the question of why we're doing it now. Look, at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, things change drastically sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever for whatever reason, both of these guys sweat and

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<v Speaker 2>pay I mean and Chase, what's going to be potentially

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<v Speaker 2>got guys that we have to pay twenty plus mire

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<v Speaker 2>you need one day and they're here and we have

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<v Speaker 2>other guys on the team that can fit fill in

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<v Speaker 2>those spots and go out there and play productively. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you have that kind of debt and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you can get more for these guys, now you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make those moves. You understand, like I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>see us make moves and get picks then sit here

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<v Speaker 2>and say we go hold on to these guys and

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year, both of them not

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<v Speaker 2>going nothing, getting nothing from them. But on the flip

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<v Speaker 2>side of all that, when I look at what transpired

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<v Speaker 2>with Chase, I think it's great. I think it's great

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<v Speaker 2>for him because one, he's a DC guy. It's tough

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<v Speaker 2>to play home. I talked about, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in Miami as a collegiate ball player, it was

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<v Speaker 2>tough to be santannamau Mouth. At the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about that a little bit, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you say it's tough to be santannamaus you got people

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<v Speaker 1>around you, you got family around you, Like what.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I was trying to be Santantamous. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to make that name a household name.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't there yet. But in order for me to

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<v Speaker 2>make that name a household name, I experimented. I had

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<v Speaker 2>time to experiment. I said to myself, I'm gonna scrap

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I'm doing, partying girls, whatever it may have been,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that it was, I was gonna scrap it because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to become a household name. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be that guy on Saturdays that people came to the

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<v Speaker 2>stadium winning at number six and saying, oh, we're finna

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<v Speaker 2>see the show. And it happened. It worked, And so

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw my transformation that okay, damn. When I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped hanging out, when I stopped doing going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the hood, stop going home bgal, Yep, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing. When I stopped showing my face out started

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<v Speaker 2>just strictly and I wasn't doing nothing different. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was locally around the campus. I just stayed away from

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<v Speaker 2>all the things that were made say that Tanner was

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<v Speaker 2>out tonight, Tanner was doing this, I just stayed away

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<v Speaker 2>from it, and my game risen. So when I look

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<v Speaker 2>at what Chase had going on here, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know half of the stuff that Chase was doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but just hearing the rumors and the rumblings and just

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how hard it's and difficult it is to live

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<v Speaker 2>up to playing here and being a household name, already

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<v Speaker 2>being a professional, having everything that you can possibly want

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<v Speaker 2>and need, and still having to go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>play the game. It was difficult. So I just felt

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<v Speaker 2>like it was gonna be a better move for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not knowing it was gonna happen this soon, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought in the future we would see this guy go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But being that it was done the other day, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna be great for us career after.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be beneficial to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, me meeting Tanna in college, the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing I can give him the way he.

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<v Speaker 4>Acts now is how he act then.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very mature for his age, and then why.

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<v Speaker 3>We call him old man because he just had this

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<v Speaker 3>all right, But everybody can't self checked, theyself like think

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<v Speaker 3>about it. So we're talking about Santana at eighteen, nineteen twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about Chase at twenty four. So it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to say, you know what, and we talking about Miami. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to, but they ain't gonna work for me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's hard to self identify that, and sometimes people.

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<v Speaker 4>Need to take that out of your hand.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought it was a burden on Chase being

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<v Speaker 3>here with family friends around the corner, like and expectation

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<v Speaker 3>played at the math supposed to be God's gift to defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and once you don't live up to that, you're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>You hate us.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have people say, oh, he hate this, he

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<v Speaker 3>hain't this. I always felt like he was a good player.

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt like the person got in the way

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<v Speaker 3>of the player.

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<v Speaker 2>But also too with all that that extra or added

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<v Speaker 2>stress of trying to be him, live up or live

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<v Speaker 2>up to who they expect him to be. It's the team,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how many expectations it is for the Redskins,

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<v Speaker 2>for the Commanders to be the Redskins again, like to

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<v Speaker 2>be that that one franchise that everybody wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard and it's so much hooplog going on around

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<v Speaker 2>this team alone. Then you add that, yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>too much. So I look at it like, man, it

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<v Speaker 2>was great for the kid man. I think it's great

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<v Speaker 2>for him to get away and go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>be with all he can be. But I just think

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to what you're hearing, hey, it's other

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<v Speaker 2>guys we know in this league all too well that

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<v Speaker 2>it's the next man you know, and the show much

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<v Speaker 2>go on. So I'm looking for now, regardless of what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the trade atmosphere, I'm looking for now for

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<v Speaker 2>all these guys who played before to now finally get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to go out there and be the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that they want or they were trying to be. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy's now for to beat the stars.

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<v Speaker 4>They now get that chance to star.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my show. Ye ye, let me go out here

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<v Speaker 2>and see what y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, y'all shocked that Monte has had more value, Like

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<v Speaker 3>more people was at the Montes than they were Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really for me, for me personally, No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the reason is like Montese has just been if you

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<v Speaker 1>just look at play, just been more consistent. He's been healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like an established commodity. I think he plays in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the defense a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 1>Chase does. That's just watching film, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would just say, like it makes a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the fact that he was getting all the calls,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that there was like a big pull

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<v Speaker 1>within the organization to try and keep him. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things is you get like a second round

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<v Speaker 1>pick from.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears, it's really a first round that's a first

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<v Speaker 2>round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's going to be like, what is that

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<v Speaker 1>probably the thirty. Like that's that's a huge deal when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to build for next year, that pick, that

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<v Speaker 1>second round pick becomes excellent trade value in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>moving around. So I think it doesn't surprise me with Montes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just been more consistent. He's been healthier, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people value the health of those players.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite that's ability is availability.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he's just been a super consistent guy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I look at that and I just say that

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<v Speaker 1>while everything about Montese, I would have thought they would

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<v Speaker 1>have tried to keep him. I would have thought they

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<v Speaker 1>would have tried to pay him up to probably. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that what the pairs offered is like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, and I don't say crazy, but it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I understand it benefited the Bears and it benefited us.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you were talking about a front four a

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<v Speaker 3>first round, and that you knew from drafting him you

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<v Speaker 3>won't gonna be to sign themll so they go to

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<v Speaker 3>realistic part of.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a GM. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If they if they did reach their peak, you're still

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be to play them all like you just especially

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<v Speaker 3>if they asly as they do. Like I thought negotiating

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<v Speaker 3>when you negotiate, and I thought, all right, I think

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<v Speaker 3>swear would be the easiest one to negotiate and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, listen, Letsten, let's find a point. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>just pay you what I paid the run pay it's

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<v Speaker 3>call it a day. But there's still a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're talking about having five picks here at

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<v Speaker 3>high peaks and ninety million dollars of camp room. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you can literally reshape this whole roster if you want,

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<v Speaker 3>But it also allows you to pay the cam curls

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<v Speaker 3>of the work. It allows you to keep the nucleus together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's it's gonna be a different nucleus than I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe a lot of fans identified. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>camp Curll is a big part of this defense definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>and get and be able to pay him and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly Saint Juces in a couple of years. Whoever it is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you gonna do, or maybe go find someone in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll pick it a little in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so I think like obviously the Montees one

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<v Speaker 1>makes it makes more sense to me from an organizational standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it makes more sense to fans. I think

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<v Speaker 1>fans see the chase thing and they're like a a

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<v Speaker 1>compensatory third round, so basically a fourth round. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>good value for him?

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<v Speaker 2>Well is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And let's talk about that a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like he could walk at the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pay him, and so yeah, like do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is Like what would you say to

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, It's like the value is not there.

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<v Speaker 3>Come down and understand when you trade me in car,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're training in the car with smiles on it,

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<v Speaker 3>they usually give you what they want to give you

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<v Speaker 3>at the dealership, Right, but you're still gonna get your

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<v Speaker 3>new car because that your old kuys of down payment

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<v Speaker 3>on your new car.

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<v Speaker 4>So our down payment was a first fourth round pick.

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<v Speaker 3>And what you don't know is what that fourth round

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<v Speaker 3>pick gonna turn Who.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna turn to? That's what I was saying, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really don't understand. You don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the draft are going to have, you know, there for

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<v Speaker 2>you around that time, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really just jump the gun and say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be nobody valuable at that pick. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>George picks you. That's talent. That's talent everywhere throughout the draft,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't look at it. And then you told

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<v Speaker 2>you also got to think about what is the value

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<v Speaker 2>of that player right now? Yeah, I'm not hearing to

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<v Speaker 2>say that that Chase it's only a compensatory third third

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<v Speaker 2>round pick value wise. But if you look at the injury,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what you're really getting, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. You look at what he you know he

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<v Speaker 2>went through here as far as the injury and and

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<v Speaker 2>all the things that have to happen to his knee

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<v Speaker 2>for it to get back to normal. San fran don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're picking up, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have a bunch of I guess you could

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<v Speaker 2>say optimism and optimism and what player that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>become Right now, Chase is he was drafted to be

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<v Speaker 2>more Julius Peppers, Like right now he's in.

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<v Speaker 3>The jadevia on Clowney Ram You remember Clowney first pick

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<v Speaker 3>came out and everybody thought he was gonna be amazing

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<v Speaker 3>God's gift to the past rushing. Well, right now, if

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<v Speaker 3>you had to slot Chase.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is he?

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<v Speaker 3>Terreil Suggs, this guy, he's Clowney right now, in which

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<v Speaker 3>Clowney has played some good but he ain't lived up

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<v Speaker 3>to the height of Clowney. And I think that's where

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<v Speaker 3>Chase at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think again, Tanny, you talked about the injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about the performance a little bit like he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think outside of his rookie year, he's never been

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<v Speaker 1>overly productive. And I think there were flashes this year

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<v Speaker 1>where you saw very productive games from a personal standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, oh he had.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's they're early too, man. Yeah, Yeah, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what is your with a transpire to be like when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to just getting more play on them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reps and everything. Repetition is key. So I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>But him not being the star in San Francisco will

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<v Speaker 3>benefit him, Him not being the focal point will benefit him.

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<v Speaker 2>Him with some.

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<v Speaker 3>Proving playoff winners will humble him. I just think he's

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<v Speaker 3>in the right situation to blossom.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the other thing that I hear from

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<v Speaker 1>fans all the time is that hey, the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are we giving up on the season, and no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not part of me? Is like, I can see why

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<v Speaker 1>they would say.

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<v Speaker 4>That, No, I don't be with them. We were the

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<v Speaker 4>thirty first ranked defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I also look at like the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are backing them up. I look at Casey two Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at James Smith Williams, and I think those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are they've been playing good football and they played

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<v Speaker 1>with a systant.

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<v Speaker 2>Football and I don't want to cut you off. I

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<v Speaker 2>think what the fans are thinking or saying because of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they look at those guys are not being capable and

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<v Speaker 2>not they're not really watching football if they watched last year,

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<v Speaker 2>because that goes to show. But that's how the fans are, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one one moment we're talking about bench. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>seem how the next thing we're talking about man, he

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<v Speaker 2>could be the franchise quarterback. So they're not watching it

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<v Speaker 2>from the links. Were watching it from They don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the reason why we built the depth that we

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<v Speaker 2>built on our defensive line, because if them guys went

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<v Speaker 2>down like they have before, two Hill Smith wins Junior

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<v Speaker 2>about it. All those guys have played a significant road

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.720
<v Speaker 2>on that line that has allowed that d line to

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<v Speaker 2>be ranked in the top five last year. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I look at it and say, hey, so much

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<v Speaker 2>go on regardless of what happened. And now we get

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<v Speaker 2>to see those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>If I give you a nickname, you good.

0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.760
<v Speaker 3>And I called Casey two sacks, and I called James

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<v Speaker 3>Smith James hyphen.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't use James hyphen in two sacks.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day, I have seen enough

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<v Speaker 3>of them that if I'm the coordinator, I trust him.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is all That's what being a team and

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<v Speaker 3>a coach is. Can I trust players to keep me hired?

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<v Speaker 2>That that's the thing about.

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<v Speaker 4>And can I trust those two yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>The question is now that they the start, what depth

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<v Speaker 3>do we have behind him?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question, absolutely, And I think, like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>your point. One of the things that I noticed when

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.680
<v Speaker 1>James and Casey are playing is that they know they're

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<v Speaker 1>not the guy. They know that they're playing second fiddle

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<v Speaker 1>to Drawn Payne. But I think like when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at them, John and Dorawn play better when they're in

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<v Speaker 1>there because instead of John having to kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of figure out where he fits with Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like he's like, hey, Casey, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>To do this.

0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in case he's like, oh okay, yeah, yes, mister,

0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll do what she'll do that, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that allows.

0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes that gives that Casey, that's okay to I

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.359
<v Speaker 2>guess you can say commit to someone that you feel

0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.240
<v Speaker 2>that's superior that Ali, and you might get the sack.

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.159
<v Speaker 2>You might get. That's exactly right. I mean, shoes, I've

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:50.920
<v Speaker 2>been a guy with the quarterbacks say do X Y

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Z and I want to say, no, coach called this

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.479
<v Speaker 2>and guess what. Eighty yards later, you know I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 2>down the sideline. Sometimes you have.

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<v Speaker 4>To fall in line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you got to play in the context

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of the defense. I think that's what we when they've

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 1>come in, they fit the run correctly, they rushed, they

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 1>rushed in their correct rush lanes, and it's not maybe

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the most dynamic thing in the whole world, but they're

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.879
<v Speaker 1>doing what they're supposed to do. It gives Jack some

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<v Speaker 1>flexibility to call more his own pressures because he feels

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable dropping those guys out in the coverage. So

0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it does do some stuff for you that I think

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>long term, Like to your point, Fred, like you want

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are gonna play that are gonna help you

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<v Speaker 1>keep your job. And I think you feel confident that

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.919
<v Speaker 1>both these guys are gonna help you do that. But

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the depth I fail body. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about him. He had a grea year last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't played a ton because the injury, but obviously

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's very capable. And you got Andre Jones

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and kJ Henry and I and I kind of want.

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<v Speaker 3>To see see Jones. I'm eager to see Jones. I'm

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 3>eager to see everybody want to know he is all right.

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.560
<v Speaker 3>If you trade away uh your sec leaders where you

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<v Speaker 3>say it's coming from, I hate to tell you out

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 3>is but Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot of sun. He's got five yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's played.

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<v Speaker 4>One full of the snaps of the other defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 3>So now the question is how can coach Jack del

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Rio manufacted sex.

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.159
<v Speaker 4>Now he's gonna have to bring that pressure.

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.439
<v Speaker 3>Now he won't have that option to say in my

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<v Speaker 3>front can just dictate games.

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna have to beat people with the pen.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a little bit more creative. And that's what you saw,

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 1>like when Chase and Montesa were out. You know over

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.360
<v Speaker 1>here Montesa has been healthy, but when Chase was out,

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>he was a little bit more innovative. They did more

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff to help guys free up. So I'm kind of

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>excited to see what the defense does because historically, and

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Kim said this on his Twitter page, John Kim, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know, I love he swent it inside of

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive statistics with and without Chase, and the defense was

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>better without him. And again I Chases. It's not saying

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Chase is a bad football.

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<v Speaker 2>No he's not. He's a great football player. That just

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>was not the place for him. And and and change

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>is always good, man. People look at changes and look

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 2>at it. It's bad. Look at the end of the

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 2>day right now, we just we like that wishing well

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.440
<v Speaker 2>with throwing a skipping that rock or throwing that corner

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>there and just hoping man that I used to steal out.

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 3>The whists and wheel just you're just in there and

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 3>there were ever I can't waiting to go to the casino.

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 1>That's my way, oh my gosh. But yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's also be interesting to see what they do.

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, like Abdula Anderson played a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>end in Atlanta. Does he get in that rotation as

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>an end as a big end like and again we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Just there's pieces of big fills back now, like John

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<v Speaker 1>Ridgeway all that stuff, So they have pieces here. I

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think it needs to be like everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 1>freak out, but it doesn't mean the season so in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cover is not bare Like I know, we just lost

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 3>two premium pass rushes, but this defense got talent on

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 3>all three levels, got talent on because to me, Ridgeway

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 3>is a start, Like I'm just anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing well, like like we've we've done him a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of breakdowns on him, He's playing really good.

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Lodge Way just a dirty holl, dirty hog. I love

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 3>a dirty holl.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this is the other thing about this

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is going in the next I know people don't want

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk. We just talked about how you don't need

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to worry about this season being over.

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But going into next year, they have five picks in

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<v Speaker 1>the first three rounds. Well, how much cap space? They

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>have ninety million dollars, ninety million dollars, and they've got

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 1>potentially a rookie, they potentially have the quarterback of the future.

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>And saw we'll see how the rest.

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 4>Of the season only own a rookie contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so to me, I look at this from

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<v Speaker 1>a drafts value standpoint, and I'm like, you could pretty

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>much and the and the cap space, you can restart

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>your team.

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 3>You can rejump everything. You could come out next year.

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 3>And if you're talking about premium people at premium spots, office.

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Of line, you can recreate it. And they have like

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>next like the next year's already got your friend. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like like right now, in terms of the draft evaluation process,

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>tackle is gonna be one of the premium positions, quarterback, receiver,

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>all these positions of like really high positional value. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of guys. You're gonna be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>one a good football player, and.

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Then think about it, who are you losing contract wise?

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<v Speaker 4>I think Curtis Samuels is up. I think Saint Juice

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 4>might be up.

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Cam You're gonna pay like you're still gonna have tons

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 3>of cap space.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Interesting and not a lot of positions to fiel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think I think what you're you're not

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>looking to fill positions, but you're looking probably at the

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>upgrade positions and just add to that depth. And I

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>think about some of the best teams I was on,

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was always you're like, man, we

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have any holes. They go through the draft to

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>go free agency, and then they just make these environments

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that were so competitive and they bring in another veterans boarder,

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 1>bring another veteran offensive line, and you're like, man, that's

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a dogfight there. Yeah, they bring it an

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>extra tight end. Your man, I gotta bring my a

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>game or extra receiver, whatever it is. So I think

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna have this fantastic opportunity to to just

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to jump start the whole thing.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:48.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's one of the things that I used

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>to love about this game, man like to bring in

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 2>the other guys. Competition was always key for me, Like

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I never I never watched the draft.

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 2>I care less about free agency. All I know my

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 2>job was secure and the only way I could keep

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it secure about going out there and being ready for

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>every day.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a this is maybe it's a little

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>off track. Did you have like a big competition in

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>off season you were like, man, I really got to

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>bring it this year, or a guy that they brought it.

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I got older, never had a competition from a player,

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think ever, like I never really like you

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 2>bringing guys. I'm gonna, I'm gonna find a way we're

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna work together, like we're gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 2>be one of the guys. You see what I'm saying.

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>But the only one time I think I had competition

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>as even being on the team was in year probably

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>was twelve or thirteen. It was twelve going into twenty

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 2>twelve season. That was year twelve, and I got a

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>call from Mike like, say, Tanning, you two hundred and

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 2>ten pounds if you don'na come back in one ninety something,

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you ain't gonna be on the team, thank you. Course,

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>what I needed I was I was going through a

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 2>whole lot out of the field, and I was just

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>eating myself to yeah, I think I just had And

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that was two thousand. That was going to twenty twelve.

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>The year prior to that, I was two hundred.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I was two five.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. I'm telling you these numbers because I played

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>at one ninety five or one ninety at two at

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and five. After I had last my third

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>knee surgery, I basically didn't work out and got big

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and had some off the field stuff that I was

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>dealing with, and still had eleven hundred. I had one

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>thousand yards with ninety something catches. First time I have

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>a court, ninety something passes and I had, I believe

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that year six or seven touchdown. So mentally, I'm like, man,

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm killing people and I'm out of shape. So I

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>cared less. So but at two out of twelve, I

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 2>needed that call. I needed it because I feel like

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 2>that I had been praying, praying, and I'm serious, I

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>do this Sometimes I just like, man, come on, give

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>me a sign. Then I need to do something. Different town,

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jesus and bro I came back in. I

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>promise you I remember the spring when I walked in here.

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Mike say, damn, you lost yourself. You lost two of you. Yeah.

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I was one hundred ninety pounds.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I needed that just twenty pounds. It's funny when I

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>asked that question, I forget how good you were. I

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>forget like you were like the dude every year I

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>did tell you the story. In two thousand and eleven,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I like did this charity thing and there was a

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>couple of scouts there. We were talking afterwards, and the scout,

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like unsolicited, was like like he kind of got this

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>look in his eye and he goes, I am trying

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to replace you every possible second, because I don't think

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you're that good at football. And I was just like, okay,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and so so every year, every year they'd bring in

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>two or three guys, and I was just like, man,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I just got to just grind.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 2>And so like the words of tall guy like yourself,

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>who's confident and motivated to go out there and do

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>what you do.

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so but I'm just saying, like, for I

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>forgot that you were like you were like the comfort,

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and for me it was like they'd bring in like

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>when they brought in Vernon Davis. I remember everyone's like, oh,

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Vernon Davis is over the hill, Like oh, this is

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>all done. And I remember like the first day we

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>were doing uh like routes on air and Kirk took

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>like a five step drop and he outran the throw

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>from a seam, you know, and I was just like, well,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely not cooked.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 2>So but you can honestly say that I've always had

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>to deal with them bringing as a receiver. You bring

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>in so many receivers anyway.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying you never had one. You never had

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 1>one that like stressed you, is what I'm saying here.

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Was never like, oh hey we're riding Julio Johns. We

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>think about this in dB.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 3>My first dB room from drafted at twenty years old

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 3>was the sanders Dale Green and Champagne.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 4>Well then we kept morphing.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Then it was just me and Shun.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it was me Shunk Carlos. Then it was me

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<v Speaker 3>Shunk Carlos d Hall. Then it was like it was

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<v Speaker 3>always like Laurn Landry in the back. It was always

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<v Speaker 3>an all star cares. That's one position that I think

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<v Speaker 3>Washington has always coveted it, and then most of the

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<v Speaker 3>time always got right was the cornerback position.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was always cushing through that, you know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how it was to in college. I think when you

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>came onto a college and you like basically a walk

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<v Speaker 2>on and you see Jamie Jermy, Magic Benton, oh My Role,

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<v Speaker 2>and Reggie Wayne come in as the top top recruit.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Darryl Jones is the top recruit, but a dude named

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Daryl Williams that was I mean, my bad. Robert Williams

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>was better than Yeah this in Miami that was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be better than Reggie and Darryl Jones. All those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are freshman's with me. Another guy named Andre King,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>who's twenty something years old. He was there. Boy, he

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>was twenty seven years old. He was an ex baseball player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you had all these guys come in and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just now it's me like, I all got guys

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>there and guys you came in with, and you're just like,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>that's competition. It makes if you a ball, It brings

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the best out of you. It should be to like

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you should say it's time to go. I swear I

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 2>used to always tell myself, I forgot that. My dad

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>was the one that said a coach somebody told me,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure when you leave the field that day that

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the coaching staff is saying something about you in a

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<v Speaker 2>positive way. I tell my kids that to this day,

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to step off the field, and they be like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I to hear it, and I hold forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that you're my freshman. And guys used

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<v Speaker 2>to be looked, but it was the greatest feeling when

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>they say who they hell that forty eighty and before

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you know it, you know, before you know it, like

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>now people are gravitating to you, like you're just sitting

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room, like I'm just trying to make

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the team, trying to find out who my friends. My

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>roommate is a guy that played high school with me,

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<v Speaker 2>so I know I got him as a friend. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't trying to talk to him. I thought of him

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>every day. I'm trying to see who else know me

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>and guys coming here, Hey boy, good practice, Hey hey

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>forty good practice. Before you know it, now the coach

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>is staff coming. He says, hey, you can do this,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you can do this. Y'all got that coach, and now

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you got there cutting grass. So I say all I

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>have to say this. When I was in the league, man,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I care less about who you brought in because I

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>understood who I am, who you were. I was very

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<v Speaker 2>sure about myself and I can hear less about the

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<v Speaker 2>next guy. As long as you gave me the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Pduce one hundred percent. All right, well, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>in the leader. Sto our next segment, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer here with a head full of hats.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Gorgeous hair. We'll have you on camera one time just

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>so you can see his hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Jason, how you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer.

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<v Speaker 5>Jason will never be in front.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the oh bummer. So, yeah, you have a little

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<v Speaker 1>baby girl. How would you would you dress up for Halloween?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>My beautiful wife, yeah, so she was an avocado or

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<v Speaker 5>a little little.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby, but not taking a chipotle. Well then, uh, my

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<v Speaker 4>wife was a burrito like Chile.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I was the tinfoil like you said us

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<v Speaker 1>A picture was really cute. At first I didn't get it.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what's going on here? But then it

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>made sense.

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, so.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Then we all like, yeah, that was luke warm.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of cold on that.

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<v Speaker 5>So the tinfoil that I had was one of those

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<v Speaker 5>emergency blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you.

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<v Speaker 4>Up as a deer? And then his girl dressed up

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<v Speaker 4>as a hit light?

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I saw that.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that was kind of a pretty popular costume, but.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Those are will throw it out costumes. I feel I.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Feel like she came up with that on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, Caitlin, Yeah, of course. My wife is very

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 5>like former preschool teacher, like very resourceful, and she's like,

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 5>what can we do cheap?

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<v Speaker 1>But then I feel like the Heineke thing, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's something you buy at the store because I

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>saw it a couple of different.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, So Jason, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>next segment we got?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we got a little segment here called Haters

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Gonna Hate. Hey, producer, Jason's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 5>part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>This ter Jason Steelki Johnston.

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<v Speaker 1>This is stuff you've heard from fans, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just there are haters out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's in the world. I'm not even gonna say

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 4>there are fans.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna say I've seen it.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>They feel that I seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>My family got haters in it.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're here, comes somebody, Here comes some hate. You

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<v Speaker 5>tell me if if I'm a real hater here or

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 5>if there's something you know we lost in these traits.

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 4>We didn't get enough back, we didn't get anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate having conversations with people like that because there's

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<v Speaker 1>like an emotional attachment.

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<v Speaker 4>To people that you know you was gonna lose anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could and you could present every piece of

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<v Speaker 1>factual information.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why I know you a hater for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like seeing your ex girlfriend knowing you don't really

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 3>want them, but you see a happy with her new boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to hate on them. Like that's what it

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>is right there.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you gotta let go if you really love somebody.

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>That with Make's wife told, if you really love somebody,

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 3>you gotta let them go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when I hear that, When I hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at guys who's saying that, because I'm like, man,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you're just not happy. You hate it, but you're just

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 2>not happy because you weren't happy with the guys here

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and now you're not happy that they're gone and what

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<v Speaker 2>we got and getting back and we don't even know

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>what we potentially getting back.

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<v Speaker 4>Listening to haters our morning because the sports Johnny, But

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<v Speaker 4>so say.

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<v Speaker 1>This with the Montes sweat thing, Yeah, that value equal

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<v Speaker 1>is very good for a guy that's not under contract

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<v Speaker 1>for next year. I think that's the thing. If he

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was under contract for like five years, he'd be like,

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>that's terrible.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Thinking about this though, too. And I don't want to

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>cut you up. I say this all say you do

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 2>it because you don't know how to apologize, and you

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 2>cut somebody. Yeah, so I always let you know. I

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want to, but I'm apologized. But about how we

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>got back, how we got into the whole first round

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>to get Montese when he came, we got him in

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>very late, so you don't know what's around at that

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>time that's gonna be potentially that that's gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to help you. He was a valuable pick pick up

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in the twenty six pick, yeah, twenty six, so it

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>might be a Montesa somebody better at Ron fall again,

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>we see it every year. That's why I don't. I

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>don't get when people go to talking before we can

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>even see what's available.

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 3>And I always tell people college, he's remaking another version

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 3>of us every year, and it might be scrowing, go fast,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>but still at the end of you just just relax.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so Tanny, you brought this up when we

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>talked earlier. Basically, he was gonna either you're either going

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to resign him or he's gonna walk at the end

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of the year. And if he's gonna walk for nothing,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather get a basically a late first round pick. Well,

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be, you know, a thirty fifth smell blind.

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And so so that's what i'd say to that that fan,

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, or that that hater. Yeah, is that

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>while this seems bad, you're that value for Montez at

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>this moment of this franchise and at this moment of

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.959
<v Speaker 1>his career and his contract situation. It's you can't pass

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>that up.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I say, coming some select jack. Yeah. So but the

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>one that I.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Think fans have might have, like they see it on paper. Yeah,

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>they say Chase Young, the former second over post a boy,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it is the name, Yeah, for a compensatory third round pick,

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>which is basically a fourth round pick. Did we get

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Hose in that deal? And what I would say to

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>them is he's been hurt. His production, while at times

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>has been very high, I'd say, has not lived up

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>to expectation for years. He has under twenty six, right,

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>And again we all think he's a good player.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying yeah, But but perception

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 3>sometimes outweighs reality.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And it's not even about that, it's just the

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>potential hasn't really gotten to be anything yet because of

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the injury, and he hasn't been on the field. So

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>when you don't have the reps, you can't really see

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>what you really who you are, bingo.

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>And so if I'm a team, I'm not If I'm

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a team trading for Chase, I'm not going to give

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>up anything of significant value because I'm like, I'm unsure

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he's been hurt and he's been kind of lukewarm in

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>terms of production. Yeah, So that's why, like, that's probably

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the best they could have gotten, in my opinion, is

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that kind of range of pick. And I think that's

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty generous.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>By and still looking out for him and sending him

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>away to somewhere where he could potent to be.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:01.800
<v Speaker 4>The guy get blossomed.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>That was like that was like ally for him, he

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>can blossom there, he possibly win a super Bowl. But

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I think people had this this view of his rookie year. Yeah,

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>and that's how when they see this rookie year and

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I hate the bust they bubb on that one.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>It was a good rookie year.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 4>But I've seen better.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was it was such I'll perform that, yes,

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 2>sax wife, but he got the credit. But because they

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>fumble recovered that he picked up.

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's also like I was talking to I was

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>talking to Ryan Kerrigan. This was way long time ago,

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you know, how was your rookie

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>year and he was like, I had seven sacks, I

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>had two fumble recoveries and it was like almost identical.

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, well Ryan had a very good rookie yar.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>People weren't hyping.

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Up the same.

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't the number two p yeah right, yeah, And

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>so I think there's a little bit of that perception

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that goes into that.

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>So you have a perception in the NFL has a

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 3>perception of him. The NFL perception was a third round

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>because he got shopped and people said, no, I'm not

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 3>giving you that.

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather have him right, right, absolutely right.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that calls your hate hate.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 5>And one of the things, you know what, show he's

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 5>just not the guy.

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Too many turnovers, not showing me enough, He just isn't it.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>We got to move on.

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 4>The best quarterback we have since Kirk Cousins.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm so glad you brought that up, though, Sorry

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I cut you off.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>So let me just say this.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>So people say, oh, he's not ready, he's got too

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>many turnovers, whatever, whatever, whatever, I think back to Kirk

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Cousins his rookie year and they're they're very similar in

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>terms of production. You're this guy's gonna grow up. He's

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>gotten better every single week, every week, and he's way

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>more physically talented than Kirk Cousins. And I'm not saying

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he's got to beat Kirk Cousins, but I'm saying, like

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>having a guy who's very talented, he's got that competitive moxie,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 1>he's got that in fact, and he's gotten better every week.

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's me. That's so port And so when I

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>look at that, sir, what if.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I told the fans, this is the worst version of him. Yeah,

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 3>this year, it's the worst version of Sam Hat. He

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 3>can only get batter And what if I shocked you

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 3>and told you this, Pat Mahomes, God's gift to quarterback

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 3>only got one hundred and forty more yards than Sam,

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 3>only got two more touchdowns in the interceptions of right there,

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 3>So step back Hat.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 4>And let this man graduate.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And so we were going to talk about the Philly game.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Like in that game, I mean he's starting, he completes

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>his first seven passes. Yes, he looks in total control

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the whole game. Obviously, we talked about this

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>on you know, in our production meeting. There's that there's

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like a ten play sequence at the eight thirty mark

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>after where he looks a little bit flummoxed. Yeah, but

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a young football player. Very those things are going

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to happen. He threw an interception there, he looked a

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>little tight on fourth down whatever whatever, Missmbalssentarry. That's frustrating.

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>But also he's a young football player who threw for

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>four hunds the football against.

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>He still gathering information. I think when when you watch

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 2>him play, that's why you see every week it's like

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.479
<v Speaker 2>a new guy out there. Like he goes from having

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.439
<v Speaker 2>one of his best games and then the next week

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 2>he gets something different that he wasn't ed to or

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen yet, and then he goes back, he

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>regress a little bit, and then I guess what, the

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>next week he goes back to having on even a

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>better game. He's gathering information on the go on the fly.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>So when you see that being done and you see

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a guy that can say, Okay, this is what I

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>did wrong last week, I'm better that, you have have

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>to have hope and respect to say, man, this guy

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>is the guy here. You can't really hate that because

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 2>being young, normally see young guys melt and be a

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 2>shut of theirself. They can't even deal with that week

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to week. Yeah you know what I mean, dysfunction of

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>not knowing what the defense is gonna bring and he

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>knows they're gonna blitz him half the time.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I tell you, hey, at the end of

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the day, I feel like Sam howl ain't even made

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 3>it to his bye week.

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Like are you serious? All right, we ain't. I'm gonna

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>tell you what.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 3>When people are not used to stuff, they don't know

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 3>how to treat it. We are not used to good

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 3>quarterback here, so we don't know how to watch it for.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Grace well, and I think also to that point, Fred,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you don't watch people. People watch this team

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>when you watch other games, when you watch other teams,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>when you study other teams, you realize that it's this

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>is good, this is pretty.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>You want to know what stinks?

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 4>They have a quarterback. They're what stinking quarterback look like.

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And so let's do this real quick. Let's talk about

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 1>confidence meter. Our confidence meter. It just go around the league.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And so the one that's fresh in my mind because

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I just watched a lot of them is Mac Jones.

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have Mac Jones a former first round

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>pick or Sam Howe? I think this is an easy one.

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>And what's your confidence meter in Mac Jones winning you

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a game five and a half, five and a half

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, guys, it straight.

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>No no here.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Got a thing about Matt Jones is he's too emotional combustible,

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 3>like if you watch him, and even coach Saban said

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 3>he was like the one thing if I had to

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 3>tell mex that we had control when he was at Alabama,

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 3>we controlled his emotion. Like when he make a band play,

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.479
<v Speaker 3>he whined like a baby. When he make a good play,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 3>he's a static.

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Know what I love about Sam?

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 4>Sam is just middle.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not mon emotional man. I still got three quarters

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>of ball to player. I don't care nothing about that.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 3>I still got to go play ball.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 2>So I the covenant is.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 4>Matter in mac Jones. His name too regular too.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm not to give it a four. Four.

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not very confident in right now. I think

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he had a really good game against the Bills. Was

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 1>that two weeks ago? But he's had some absolutely well

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you look.

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 2>At him his first year. John mc dange's really was

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the kind of the puppet master behind him having that

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl season. So it's all about, too, who you

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>got calling the players, who you got putting you in position?

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Who catching it? Kendrick Bard just got hurt.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Kendrick Bourne. Uh, Parker's hurt there for them too, but nobody.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about. So it's Tommy DeVito, He's starting in

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>New York.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 4>He has he has less yours than the dead Man.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't you know? He got next negative negative? Your past?

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 6>What screen play got stopped on the back from that

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 6>sounds fitting for New Yorkers, Like, No, it's like one

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 6>of those those those Gambino movies or something, the Beato.

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure that in Good Fellas, Joe Petty's character's

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 5>name is Timmy Daviata.

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 4>And he also got a niggative.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like there's some bad quarterbacks the I mean,

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>how would you feel if if Jordan Love is.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>The quarterback here?

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Would you?

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Would you like Jordan Love? I do take him over Sam, No,

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not. It's hard he is younger, Yeah,

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but also to you, I don't know. I

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>can't answer that. Is it like a wash for you?

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Kind of in terms of comp because I feel like

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>when I watched Jordan Love, I mean, there there are various.

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Plays where he have he have He shows you the potential.

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Then I see plays to where he's kind of still

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>learning and trying to figure it out, you know what

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 4>So I think get too much props. I'm not sold

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 4>on him.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Floor.

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:07.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sold on the floor.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sold on the floor.

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing about Green Bay, just to give

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>some context, is they have all all of their all

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of their offensive playmakers out of the running back are

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>in their first or second year behind an offensive line

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that suffer a lot of injuries. So I don't think

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say you can't really show because

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 2>that especially the officer line. I think the officer line

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>is to me, the deciding the fact that when it

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 2>comes to a lot of quarterbacks.

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Come to the offensive players period.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't hurt no ball that hurts how much time he

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>sits there, and don't don't flint he holds the ball

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 2>more than like if you put him behind the office

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 2>of line and got the bread man, we'll be we'll

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>be looking at Hurts like we look at Sam like

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, We'll be having those same

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 2>questions at time. So to me, I think you can't really,

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, give those guys a good rating or say

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>what it is behind them until they get their true

0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>protection or get behind a good team that's going to

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 2>put him in situations that we can really see him

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>flirt right Logan, Hey, dewy Cox, what you thinking about him? Man?

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think, you know, I really like Jordan Love.

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got some ability. I do think there's

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of irregularity in game for me, I

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just or something about Sam like when he's on, he's on,

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>he is on. Yeah, like watching him in that Philly game,

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 1>just how consistent, how poised he is, you can make

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>every single throw. I mean I still think about that

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Broncos game. A couple throws me in that game, and I.

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Just like that is we throw for child I mean

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Childer to me, the one that that was great man

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 3>man as a conaback this show Wards nightmare.

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 4>I could be in this hill pocket but that passed.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't defat or the Baali through the Gibson on

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the rail. I can't right over the top there right

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>in the bucket. And so you see enough of those

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>high level things and right now, I think the thing

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that is like the biggest glaring issue with his game

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>is that he takes a lot of sacks. But you've

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>seen that eb if he calls a good game or

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>he calls the right game, because he's always calling pretty

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>good games. Yeah, like getting out of that five step

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>drop stuff a little bit more like he took he

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>took one secon against Philly, Yeah, and absolutely deal late

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>sack and it was on a fourth and five and

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>in the louds portion of So I don't know.

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I just I look at that.

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, there there's so much there to be

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>excited about with Sam, And if you're a fan of him,

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I know this hater over here is doing whatever he's doing. Yeah,

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he throwing out, But I just think there's enough outside

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's gonna get better.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Like there's certain times you're like, you watch a quarterback

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, for example, with Mac Jones, like what

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 1>is his ceiling? Because you watch him and he does

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>these process as well. His arm talent's not there, so

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>they have a really hard time pushing the ball to

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and.

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 2>He don't do it right.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think with Sam, you see all the physical

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>tools and you see the mental stuff starting to come

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>with it. And I'm just saying, if he can become

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And I just think about Kirk early in his career. Yeah,

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone everyone was hating on Kirk, but he developed into

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But he developed into one of the best, one of

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the better quarterbacks in the league, is what I'd say.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think Sam is ahead.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Of that right now. Yeah, So did that all right?

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Sails?

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>So Jason are we doing this? Are you hating this one?

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Or are we doing this one?

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>On? Around here?

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>This team can't make the playoffs?

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>You know that.

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a hater right there.

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. We can't do it.

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 5>We're too far behind. We're giving up pieces. Sam, howel

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.359
<v Speaker 5>ain't it We're not getting there?

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Can't do it well? Like his voice asked, Yeah, I

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>love it. Hater's voice, right, It's fitting the character, you

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Because you know Jason and I

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>know don't talk, you know, but you know I was

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 2>just talking to this. I was talking to Sheen. I said,

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I kind of talked about just that twenty twelve season

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>we had, man, it was three and six that year

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and found our way in the playoffs until I found

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 2>our way riding high going into the playoffs. So anything

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is possible, you know what I mean. And now you

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>have an extra game, so you know, you never know

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 2>what can happen late in the season. But I will

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>also say this, I will understand the little hate behind

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.359
<v Speaker 2>this one because of who we just you know, got

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 2>rid of. But then you, like I said before, you

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't been watching what we have at depth. You haven't

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 2>been watching this team as a whole and let them play.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you let it, let a team go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and play, eventually they gonna show you who

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<v Speaker 2>they are. And I think we have at least three

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<v Speaker 2>to four more games. I'm about three games to really

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<v Speaker 2>say we're going to be in and on the three

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<v Speaker 2>or four games.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of them things where all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go realistic. We already oer and three in the division,

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<v Speaker 3>but we can go five hundred in the division. You

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<v Speaker 3>can still go three and three in individual. You got

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<v Speaker 3>some games you can win. You got the New England

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<v Speaker 3>Patriots ahead. Of course, people gonna look and say, Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks something beatable, But I watch them get beat

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, like it's ways to see how it's

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<v Speaker 3>way to make this thing happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell them all the time, take every season.

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<v Speaker 3>One game at a time, because once we go and one,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean one and oh and in the season open

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<v Speaker 3>we win in the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Then when we're three and one after.

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<v Speaker 2>Four games, oh, get my ticket? Do you lose to

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<v Speaker 2>in a rowing?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>We just think in his tickets. So you can't go

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<v Speaker 2>on this emotional roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 3>What you can do is sit back and then enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>the riot because I can say this, this is the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>This is only the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say that when you look at this

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<v Speaker 1>team in ten, I think you just brought this up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just want to reiterate something there is when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this offense and I see what they

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<v Speaker 1>did against Philly in both outings, I say, that is

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<v Speaker 1>an offense that can win you some football games. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if they can, if they can play with that

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<v Speaker 1>level of consistency, it was gonna be tough, Sam, how

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<v Speaker 1>is a young player. It's gonna be tough to play

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<v Speaker 1>with that level of consistency and finding different ways to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, can you run the football in some games?

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Can you throw the football like they did in the

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<v Speaker 1>Philly games? And then can the defense play a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better a lot better? And so but I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about in a close game, can they make

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<v Speaker 1>the one or two plays we need?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Can they make the one or two plays we need?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that I would say is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>if if that happens, which I think is entirely possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's entirely possible that happens. Let's say Benjamin Saint Juice.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's just take the Philly game, because we're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking Abo. He makes that PBu with makes PBu with

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, Ki yeah, right, or they break up that

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<v Speaker 1>pass to Julio and the enzng right, two plays, totally

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<v Speaker 1>different outcome of the game. Or Forbes in that Tampa too.

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Right, or Forbes you know, don't keep running fading back on.

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<v Speaker 4>Now and just finish the play at the highest point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that, like then the game is completely

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<v Speaker 1>different and all of a sudden, you don't need thirty

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<v Speaker 1>points to score, you just need twenty eighth and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a much more reasonable thing. And against some teams with

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<v Speaker 1>like less efficient quarterback play, I think that's gonna be plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So can the defense make five more plays and can

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<v Speaker 1>the offense play with this level of consistency for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season, because that's objectively good offense for

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half quarters And so if they can

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and I do think and I do think,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about them moving some of these pieces. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>win Chase has been out, has been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more exotic, and I think that will be helpful.

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 2>And we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I don't have any of this is

0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>an inside baseball. It's just like based on past performance

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>what I think happened. So there's a very real possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that they play better, they win some games they shouldn't win,

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and they win the games they should win, and they

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<v Speaker 1>end up in the playoffs. You know, it's interesting. You

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<v Speaker 1>made me think back to twenty ten and eleven with

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle and I remember we had like, you know, obviously

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Tannis here, but we had like Jabbar Gaffney and Star

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Wars and guys that were good football players. But and

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Rex Rex Grossman was the quarterback and I

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>love Rex, but we were not an extremely talented team.

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But the way it forced Kyle and that offensive staff

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<v Speaker 1>to like get in the pen work and say, oh

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>we can get this, Oh, look at this coverage, we

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>can attack this, look at that we Oh can we

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>get with this motion? And it just it elevated, It

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>elevated the team because he pushed himself harder. And I

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think maybe that's what Jack does when when montesen or

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when Chase, He's done that, when Chase has been out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think just adding that and again it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not like Casey and James have played bad ball.

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>They played fine ball. So I think it's definitely a

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.320
<v Speaker 1>possibility to make the playoffs. We understand the hate, but

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>but but I think there's a world where that that

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is unwarranted. That hey, and a lot of hate there

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, sometimes you got to lean on Jesus, hater, Jason's gone.

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Look at happier, right, yeah, happier. Well, I think that's

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't right for the show today. It's crazy, all right,

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 1>So make sure you guys tune in on Friday because

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>we're doing a preview part of the New England Patriots

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>game and talk about a team.

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>That's having a tough go. And then make sure Frederick,

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 2>yes that you know you have a podcast.

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I do get loud and I'm always loud.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Me and the man get loud. We got the next

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>man up, you know.

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of our thing behind not really football y

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 1>right in the weeds there and then Players Club Tana

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that's your thing, right, Logan Thomas, Dude, Logan Thomas is

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>always fun at time, So Logan to spend that rock.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Now you gonna demo that live on the show, Coach London.

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.359
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0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:03.880
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