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Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are

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Speaker 1: talking trades montege Chase. We're breaking down those Is it

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Speaker 1: a good trade, is it a bad trade? And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about what it means moving forward, right, and

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Speaker 1: then we got a segment. It's a lot of fun. Man,

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Speaker 1: Haters are gonna hate, hate, hate. Hey, Seal get Jay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I have logan Paulson.

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Speaker 1: Here were Santanamos with a big chain on today?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and Fred.

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Speaker 1: Smooth with a couple of jealous with a coup of that.

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Speaker 1: Joseph decaf or caffeinated.

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Speaker 3: Is caffeinated And I've wondered how do you decaffeinate coffee beans?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But tree that has no.

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Speaker 1: Cat I don't think that's how they do it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to if you know how they do it,

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Speaker 1: please leave a comment. That's always helpful for our distilling

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Speaker 1: what's truth and fiction with Fred. So, but yeah, Halloween

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Speaker 1: was yesterday. What did you guys?

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Speaker 2: Do you think I did nothing?

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Speaker 1: You were you were hyping up Halloween.

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Speaker 3: I went out to parties this weekend, but for this Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: no I did nothing.

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Speaker 4: I handed out candy and I do experiments.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm a nerve, so I put like all

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Speaker 3: the nerdy I've been a nerd like I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: literally like put a big basket of candy right there,

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Speaker 3: and then I put on the other side like funions

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Speaker 3: and tato chips and other stuff.

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Speaker 4: I want to see who grabs what, and you would

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Speaker 4: be shocked.

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Speaker 2: I mean I went for the chips.

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Speaker 3: ND I had to lit crackers with the cheese in

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Speaker 3: there because that's how it was getting from the other

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Speaker 3: houses with candy. So when they see this switch up,

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Speaker 3: my candy bowl stayed full. Really yeah, I gotta I

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Speaker 3: got Yeah, my candy bowl stayed full while the others

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Speaker 3: got taken.

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Speaker 1: Do you go out at all or no? Just what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, do you like go to the neighborhood

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Speaker 1: or I go.

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Speaker 2: With the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I walk around and you know, because people know who

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Speaker 3: you are, I be handed out football courts.

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Speaker 2: Sometime I'm looking like a jerk. Hand here you go, kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what is your what does your son do? Did you

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Speaker 2: go with this? Boys?

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Speaker 3: And my son is eighteen years old, he's not kicking

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Speaker 3: it with pops on Halloween.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like what they do now,

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Speaker 1: like they go, they probably go.

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Speaker 3: They went hung out of it, like I hop like

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Speaker 3: they got it and I hoped people house, Yeah, steal

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Speaker 3: people candy bag stuff like that tall.

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Speaker 2: Paper on your tree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do nothing. I went to the gym I

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Speaker 2: want to l a fitness and got a nice little.

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Speaker 1: Lot about l A fitness like on Halloween, him and

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Speaker 1: Frankenstein's pack.

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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, people think about their weight more than they

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Speaker 2: think about these candy and these kids. Man, I mean

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Speaker 2: honestly thought. Man, I was planning on doing something every year.

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna do something Halloween, and like what is.

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Speaker 1: A grown person doing?

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Speaker 2: Allow? Because I got kid dressed up and act like

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Speaker 2: I'm trying dress up. I would probably go to like

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Speaker 2: to get our ass up earlier to day. Like, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like other like parties in DC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DC is big on Halloween. Like when I was

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Speaker 3: in I was in DC Saturday, I was literally driving around.

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Speaker 3: Frankenstein passed me like like riding the school like it.

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Speaker 2: DC is lit apart.

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Speaker 3: So then you had to go five you old costume

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Speaker 4: So I just went to the party as Fred Smooth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome man, thank you. Well, yeah, we do

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Speaker 1: like the bowl of candy out, you know, we leave

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Speaker 1: tinging like five o'clock yesterday. Yeah, it was like, sonny out,

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Speaker 4: First kid, And that's why you have to police them.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I give him options.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, hey, man, just

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Speaker 1: put some of that back. He's like, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to share this. I want it all all right.

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Speaker 1: So we got a lot of stuff to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: We got to do a little recap of the Philly game.

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Speaker 1: But I think the main thing we got to talk about,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, it is the trade man.

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Speaker 4: When did in the NFL turned to the NBA trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like when did this start?

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Speaker 4: Like last year was the best, Yeah, last year was

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Speaker 1: This one was a little bit more location.

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Speaker 3: Dude, But I still felt like the energy was there,

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Speaker 3: Like it felt like for the first time, like a

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Speaker 3: lot of players didn't know if they was gonna be

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Speaker 2: It's a good point, which.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of NBA is shut.

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Speaker 3: That ain't really NFL like they let you finish out

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Speaker 3: the year before. And I think maybe because they're doing

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Speaker 3: the contracts a little different now, they willing to let

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Speaker 4: And I think the team that really.

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Speaker 3: Feel like they got a chance to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: they putting the pedal to the medal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't just waiting back no more.

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Speaker 1: You see that, And I think, like, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: I think with San Francisco, for example, you know, giving

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Speaker 1: up a third round pick or a compensitory third round pick,

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Speaker 1: which means they have a compensitory pick from their coach

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Speaker 1: Ryan I believe in maybe one other player, Jason, I'm

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Speaker 2: Little more compensitory pick.

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Speaker 3: They get a pick because of they replace it if

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Speaker 4: They replace it with a pick. Let's just say if

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Speaker 1: So we got a compensitory pick for Brandon Shriff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we did.

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Speaker 1: So he goes and he gets paid a certain amount

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Speaker 2: Piece, you know.

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Speaker 1: So what they do is they have like kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so trying to understand the compensatory part of

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Speaker 2: that pick, like, Okay, you either getting a pick or not.

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Speaker 4: No, you're gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: They're basically like extra picks that the league allocates, and

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Speaker 1: I think you can get a compensory third, fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 3: So now I think about it, the third round, I

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Speaker 1: And so that's why this is kind of this is

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Speaker 1: a little bit weird. I think a lot of fans

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Speaker 1: how you guys felt, because there's a lot of people

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Speaker 4: What I think the way they not feeling feeling good

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Speaker 3: I think you can't think about that he was the

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Speaker 1: And this is what just just a little housekeeping note there.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get a couple of compenstory picks, ones for

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Speaker 1: and players that have left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: I think they just mad because they felt like we

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Speaker 3: put more in than we got back.

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Speaker 2: I mean we did, but.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, that's the draft. I'm not tell people this

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Speaker 3: one guarantee and sometimes it ain't the player, it's the place.

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Speaker 3: And when I think about Chase, it makes me go

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Speaker 3: back to when I was coming out. If I would

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Speaker 3: Disguise for this guy to actually reach his peak.

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Speaker 4: And it's humbling. It's humbling to get traded.

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Speaker 1: I think that's and you've been and Tenny, you were

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Speaker 1: talking about this a little bit too with your time

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Speaker 1: in New York, and I just wonder if you want

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Speaker 1: to bring some of that to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that you know so so I

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Speaker 2: bunch of hoopla. And sorry fans, hoopla. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a hoopla because I feel like we can't one minute

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Speaker 4: I say, you're not gonna pay them, And.

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Speaker 2: Then we can't be on the fence of saying that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when the season o with everybody gone. But then ask

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Speaker 2: the question of why we're doing it now. Look, at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, things change drastically sometimes and

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Speaker 2: whatever for whatever reason, both of these guys sweat and

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Speaker 2: pay I mean and Chase, what's going to be potentially

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Speaker 2: got guys that we have to pay twenty plus mire

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Speaker 2: you need one day and they're here and we have

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Speaker 2: other guys on the team that can fit fill in

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Speaker 2: those spots and go out there and play productively. So

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Speaker 2: when you have that kind of debt and you feel

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Speaker 2: like you can get more for these guys, now you

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Speaker 2: have to make those moves. You understand, like I'd rather

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Speaker 2: see us make moves and get picks then sit here

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Speaker 2: and say we go hold on to these guys and

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, both of them not

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Speaker 2: going nothing, getting nothing from them. But on the flip

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Speaker 2: side of all that, when I look at what transpired

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Speaker 2: with Chase, I think it's great. I think it's great

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Speaker 2: for him because one, he's a DC guy. It's tough

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Speaker 2: to play home. I talked about, you know, when I

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be beneficial to him.

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Speaker 3: And I think, me meeting Tanna in college, the one

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Speaker 2: He was very mature for his age, and then why.

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Speaker 3: We call him old man because he just had this

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Speaker 3: all right, But everybody can't self checked, theyself like think

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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to self identify that, and sometimes people.

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Speaker 4: Need to take that out of your hand.

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was a burden on Chase being

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have people say, oh, he hate this, he

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Speaker 2: But also too with all that that extra or added

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Speaker 2: you know how many expectations it is for the Redskins,

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Speaker 2: it's hard and it's so much hooplog going on around

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Speaker 2: too much. So I look at it like, man, it

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Speaker 2: when it comes to what you're hearing, hey, it's other

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Speaker 2: it's the next man you know, and the show much

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Speaker 2: all these guys who played before to now finally get

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Speaker 4: They now get that chance to star.

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Speaker 2: That's my show. Ye ye, let me go out here

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Speaker 2: and see what y'all.

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Speaker 3: Well, y'all shocked that Monte has had more value, Like

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Speaker 1: Not really for me, for me personally, No, I think

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Speaker 1: the reason is like Montese has just been if you

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Speaker 1: just look at play, just been more consistent. He's been healthier,

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Speaker 1: He's like an established commodity. I think he plays in

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Speaker 2: The Bears, it's really a first round that's a first

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Speaker 1: I mean that's going to be like, what is that

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Speaker 1: He's just been more consistent. He's been healthier, and I

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Speaker 4: Quite that's ability is availability.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's just been a super consistent guy. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I look at that and I just say that

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Speaker 1: just that what the pairs offered is like it's it's

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Speaker 3: No, I understand it benefited the Bears and it benefited us.

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Speaker 3: But also you were talking about a front four a

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Speaker 3: realistic part of.

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Speaker 4: This is a GM. Think about it.

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Speaker 3: If they if they did reach their peak, you're still

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Speaker 3: if they asly as they do. Like I thought negotiating

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Speaker 3: when you negotiate, and I thought, all right, I think

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Speaker 3: swear would be the easiest one to negotiate and say,

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Speaker 3: you know, listen, Letsten, let's find a point. Let me

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Speaker 3: just pay you what I paid the run pay it's

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Speaker 3: call it a day. But there's still a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: And now you're talking about having five picks here at

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Speaker 3: you can literally reshape this whole roster if you want,

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Speaker 3: But it also allows you to pay the cam curls

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Speaker 1: Well it's it's gonna be a different nucleus than I

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Speaker 1: think maybe a lot of fans identified. But you know,

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Speaker 1: camp Curll is a big part of this defense definitely,

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Speaker 1: and get and be able to pay him and you know,

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Speaker 1: possibly Saint Juces in a couple of years. Whoever it is, right,

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Speaker 1: whoever you gonna do, or maybe go find someone in

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Speaker 1: free agency that you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: You'll pick it a little in free agency.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so I think like obviously the Montees one

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Speaker 1: makes it makes more sense to me from an organizational standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes more sense to fans. I think

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Speaker 1: fans see the chase thing and they're like a a

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Speaker 1: compensatory third round, so basically a fourth round. Is this

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Speaker 1: good value for him?

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Speaker 2: Well is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And let's talk about that a little bit because

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Speaker 1: it's like he could walk at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: you could pay him, and so yeah, like do you

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Speaker 1: think that that is Like what would you say to

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Speaker 1: a fan, It's like the value is not there.

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Speaker 3: Come down and understand when you trade me in car,

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Speaker 3: when you're training in the car with smiles on it,

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Speaker 3: they usually give you what they want to give you

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Speaker 3: at the dealership, Right, but you're still gonna get your

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Speaker 4: So our down payment was a first fourth round pick.

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Speaker 3: And what you don't know is what that fourth round

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Speaker 2: Is gonna turn to? That's what I was saying, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you really don't understand. You don't know what

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Speaker 2: the draft are going to have, you know, there for

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Speaker 2: you around that time, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 2: you can't really just jump the gun and say, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be nobody valuable at that pick. Come on,

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Speaker 2: George picks you. That's talent. That's talent everywhere throughout the draft,

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Speaker 2: and you can't look at it. And then you told

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Speaker 2: you also got to think about what is the value

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Speaker 2: of that player right now? Yeah, I'm not hearing to

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Speaker 2: say that that Chase it's only a compensatory third third

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Speaker 2: round pick value wise. But if you look at the injury,

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Speaker 2: you don't know what you're really getting, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. You look at what he you know he

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Speaker 2: all the things that have to happen to his knee

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Speaker 2: for it to get back to normal. San fran don't

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Speaker 2: know what they're picking up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So they have a bunch of I guess you could

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Speaker 2: become Right now, Chase is he was drafted to be

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Speaker 2: more Julius Peppers, Like right now he's in.

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Speaker 3: The jadevia on Clowney Ram You remember Clowney first pick

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Speaker 3: came out and everybody thought he was gonna be amazing

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Speaker 3: God's gift to the past rushing. Well, right now, if

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Speaker 4: Who is he?

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Speaker 3: Terreil Suggs, this guy, he's Clowney right now, in which

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Speaker 3: Clowney has played some good but he ain't lived up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think again, Tanny, you talked about the injury,

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Speaker 1: you talked about the performance a little bit like he's not.

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Speaker 1: I think outside of his rookie year, he's never been

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Speaker 2: And it's they're early too, man. Yeah, Yeah, who knows

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Speaker 2: what is your with a transpire to be like when

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Speaker 2: it came to just getting more play on them, you know,

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Speaker 2: reps and everything. Repetition is key. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: But him not being the star in San Francisco will

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Speaker 3: benefit him, Him not being the focal point will benefit him.

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Speaker 2: Him with some.

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Speaker 3: Proving playoff winners will humble him. I just think he's

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Speaker 1: So I think the other thing that I hear from

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Speaker 1: are we giving up on the season, and no, we're

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Speaker 1: not part of me? Is like, I can see why

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Speaker 4: That, No, I don't be with them. We were the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also look at like the guys that

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Speaker 1: I look at James Smith Williams, and I think those

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Speaker 2: think what the fans are thinking or saying because of them,

442
00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,159
Speaker 2: they look at those guys are not being capable and

443
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,840
Speaker 2: not they're not really watching football if they watched last year,

444
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,880
Speaker 2: because that goes to show. But that's how the fans are, yeah,

445
00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,439
Speaker 2: you know, one one moment we're talking about bench. You know,

446
00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 2: seem how the next thing we're talking about man, he

447
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 2: could be the franchise quarterback. So they're not watching it

448
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320
Speaker 2: from the links. Were watching it from They don't understand that.

449
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,919
Speaker 2: That's the reason why we built the depth that we

450
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 2: built on our defensive line, because if them guys went

451
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:18,440
Speaker 2: down like they have before, two Hill Smith wins Junior

452
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,880
Speaker 2: about it. All those guys have played a significant road

453
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 2: on that line that has allowed that d line to

454
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Speaker 2: be ranked in the top five last year. So that's

455
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Speaker 2: why I look at it and say, hey, so much

456
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Speaker 2: go on regardless of what happened. And now we get

457
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Speaker 2: to see those guys.

458
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,640
Speaker 4: If I give you a nickname, you good.

459
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Speaker 3: And I called Casey two sacks, and I called James

460
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Speaker 3: Smith James hyphen.

461
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Speaker 4: I don't use James hyphen in two sacks.

462
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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I have seen enough

463
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Speaker 3: of them that if I'm the coordinator, I trust him.

464
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Speaker 3: And this is all That's what being a team and

465
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Speaker 3: a coach is. Can I trust players to keep me hired?

466
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Speaker 2: That that's the thing about.

467
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Speaker 4: And can I trust those two yes, sir?

468
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Speaker 3: The question is now that they the start, what depth

469
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Speaker 3: do we have behind him?

470
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Speaker 1: That's the question, absolutely, And I think, like kind of

471
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Speaker 1: your point. One of the things that I noticed when

472
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Speaker 1: James and Casey are playing is that they know they're

473
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Speaker 1: not the guy. They know that they're playing second fiddle

474
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Speaker 1: to Drawn Payne. But I think like when you look

475
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Speaker 1: at them, John and Dorawn play better when they're in

476
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 1: there because instead of John having to kind of work

477
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Speaker 1: and kind of figure out where he fits with Chase,

478
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: it's like he's like, hey, Casey, I'm going.

479
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 2: To do this.

480
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, in case he's like, oh okay, yeah, yes, mister,

481
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll do what she'll do that, you know, And I

482
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Speaker 1: think that allows.

483
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Speaker 2: And sometimes that gives that Casey, that's okay to I

484
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 2: guess you can say commit to someone that you feel

485
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 2: that's superior that Ali, and you might get the sack.

486
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 2: You might get. That's exactly right. I mean, shoes, I've

487
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 2: been a guy with the quarterbacks say do X Y

488
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 2: Z and I want to say, no, coach called this

489
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,479
Speaker 2: and guess what. Eighty yards later, you know I'm speaking

490
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Speaker 2: down the sideline. Sometimes you have.

491
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Speaker 4: To fall in line.

492
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you got to play in the context

493
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Speaker 1: of the defense. I think that's what we when they've

494
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 1: come in, they fit the run correctly, they rushed, they

495
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: rushed in their correct rush lanes, and it's not maybe

496
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: the most dynamic thing in the whole world, but they're

497
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. It gives Jack some

498
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 1: flexibility to call more his own pressures because he feels

499
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Speaker 1: more comfortable dropping those guys out in the coverage. So

500
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Speaker 1: it does do some stuff for you that I think

501
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Speaker 1: long term, Like to your point, Fred, like you want

502
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna play that are gonna help you

503
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Speaker 1: keep your job. And I think you feel confident that

504
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Speaker 1: both these guys are gonna help you do that. But

505
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the depth I fail body. We got to

506
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Speaker 1: talk about him. He had a grea year last year.

507
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: He hasn't played a ton because the injury, but obviously

508
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: a guy that's very capable. And you got Andre Jones

509
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: and kJ Henry and I and I kind of want.

510
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Speaker 3: To see see Jones. I'm eager to see Jones. I'm

511
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: eager to see everybody want to know he is all right.

512
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Speaker 3: If you trade away uh your sec leaders where you

513
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Speaker 3: say it's coming from, I hate to tell you out

514
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: is but Casey.

515
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Speaker 2: Got a lot of sun. He's got five yeah, and

516
00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: he's he's played.

517
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Speaker 4: One full of the snaps of the other defensive ends.

518
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: So now the question is how can coach Jack del

519
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: Rio manufacted sex.

520
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 4: Now he's gonna have to bring that pressure.

521
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 3: Now he won't have that option to say in my

522
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: front can just dictate games.

523
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to beat people with the pen.

524
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: Be a little bit more creative. And that's what you saw,

525
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: like when Chase and Montesa were out. You know over

526
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 1: here Montesa has been healthy, but when Chase was out,

527
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: he was a little bit more innovative. They did more

528
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: stuff to help guys free up. So I'm kind of

529
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: excited to see what the defense does because historically, and

530
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: Kim said this on his Twitter page, John Kim, if

531
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Speaker 1: you guys know, I love he swent it inside of

532
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: defensive statistics with and without Chase, and the defense was

533
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: better without him. And again I Chases. It's not saying

534
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: Chase is a bad football.

535
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: No he's not. He's a great football player. That just

536
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: was not the place for him. And and and change

537
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: is always good, man. People look at changes and look

538
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: at it. It's bad. Look at the end of the

539
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 2: day right now, we just we like that wishing well

540
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: with throwing a skipping that rock or throwing that corner

541
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: there and just hoping man that I used to steal out.

542
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: The whists and wheel just you're just in there and

543
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: there were ever I can't waiting to go to the casino.

544
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: That's my way, oh my gosh. But yeah, and I

545
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: think it's also be interesting to see what they do.

546
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, like Abdula Anderson played a little bit of

547
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Speaker 1: end in Atlanta. Does he get in that rotation as

548
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: an end as a big end like and again we

549
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know anything.

550
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: That's were talking about.

551
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: Just there's pieces of big fills back now, like John

552
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: Ridgeway all that stuff, So they have pieces here. I

553
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: don't think it needs to be like everyone needs to

554
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: freak out, but it doesn't mean the season so in the.

555
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: Cover is not bare Like I know, we just lost

556
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 3: two premium pass rushes, but this defense got talent on

557
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: all three levels, got talent on because to me, Ridgeway

558
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: is a start, Like I'm just anyway.

559
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Speaker 1: He's playing well, like like we've we've done him a

560
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: couple of breakdowns on him, He's playing really good.

561
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Speaker 3: Lodge Way just a dirty holl, dirty hog. I love

562
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Speaker 3: a dirty holl.

563
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Speaker 2: Okay.

564
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Speaker 1: So I think this is the other thing about this

565
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Speaker 1: is going in the next I know people don't want

566
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: to talk. We just talked about how you don't need

567
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: to worry about this season being over.

568
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: It's not.

569
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: But going into next year, they have five picks in

570
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 1: the first three rounds. Well, how much cap space? They

571
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: have ninety million dollars, ninety million dollars, and they've got

572
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: potentially a rookie, they potentially have the quarterback of the future.

573
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Speaker 2: And saw we'll see how the rest.

574
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: Of the season only own a rookie contract.

575
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so to me, I look at this from

576
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: a drafts value standpoint, and I'm like, you could pretty

577
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: much and the and the cap space, you can restart

578
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: your team.

579
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 3: You can rejump everything. You could come out next year.

580
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: And if you're talking about premium people at premium spots, office.

581
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: Of line, you can recreate it. And they have like

582
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Speaker 1: next like the next year's already got your friend. It's

583
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: like like right now, in terms of the draft evaluation process,

584
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: tackle is gonna be one of the premium positions, quarterback, receiver,

585
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: all these positions of like really high positional value. There's

586
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 1: a ton of guys. You're gonna be able to get

587
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: one a good football player, and.

588
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: Then think about it, who are you losing contract wise?

589
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: I think Curtis Samuels is up. I think Saint Juice

590
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: might be up.

591
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: Cam You're gonna pay like you're still gonna have tons

592
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: of cap space.

593
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: Interesting and not a lot of positions to fiel.

594
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think what you're you're not

595
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: looking to fill positions, but you're looking probably at the

596
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: upgrade positions and just add to that depth. And I

597
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: think about some of the best teams I was on,

598
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: and it was it was always you're like, man, we

599
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: don't have any holes. They go through the draft to

600
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: go free agency, and then they just make these environments

601
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: that were so competitive and they bring in another veterans boarder,

602
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: bring another veteran offensive line, and you're like, man, that's

603
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: gonna be a dogfight there. Yeah, they bring it an

604
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: extra tight end. Your man, I gotta bring my a

605
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: game or extra receiver, whatever it is. So I think

606
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: they're just gonna have this fantastic opportunity to to just

607
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: to jump start the whole thing.

608
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the things that I used

609
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: to love about this game, man like to bring in

610
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: the other guys. Competition was always key for me, Like

611
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: I loved it. I never I never watched the draft.

612
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: I care less about free agency. All I know my

613
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: job was secure and the only way I could keep

614
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: it secure about going out there and being ready for

615
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: every day.

616
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Did you have a this is maybe it's a little

617
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: off track. Did you have like a big competition in

618
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: off season you were like, man, I really got to

619
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Speaker 1: bring it this year, or a guy that they brought it.

620
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Speaker 2: I got older, never had a competition from a player,

621
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Speaker 2: I don't think ever, like I never really like you

622
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: bringing guys. I'm gonna, I'm gonna find a way we're

623
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Speaker 2: gonna work together, like we're gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna

624
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Speaker 2: be one of the guys. You see what I'm saying.

625
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: But the only one time I think I had competition

626
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: as even being on the team was in year probably

627
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: was twelve or thirteen. It was twelve going into twenty

628
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: twelve season. That was year twelve, and I got a

629
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Speaker 2: call from Mike like, say, Tanning, you two hundred and

630
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: ten pounds if you don'na come back in one ninety something,

631
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Speaker 2: you ain't gonna be on the team, thank you. Course,

632
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: what I needed I was I was going through a

633
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: whole lot out of the field, and I was just

634
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: eating myself to yeah, I think I just had And

635
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: that was two thousand. That was going to twenty twelve.

636
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: The year prior to that, I was two hundred.

637
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 4: I was two five.

638
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I'm telling you these numbers because I played

639
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: at one ninety five or one ninety at two at

640
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: two hundred and five. After I had last my third

641
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: knee surgery, I basically didn't work out and got big

642
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: and had some off the field stuff that I was

643
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: dealing with, and still had eleven hundred. I had one

644
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: thousand yards with ninety something catches. First time I have

645
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: a court, ninety something passes and I had, I believe

646
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: that year six or seven touchdown. So mentally, I'm like, man,

647
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: I'm killing people and I'm out of shape. So I

648
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: cared less. So but at two out of twelve, I

649
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: needed that call. I needed it because I feel like

650
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: that I had been praying, praying, and I'm serious, I

651
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: do this Sometimes I just like, man, come on, give

652
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: me a sign. Then I need to do something. Different town,

653
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, Jesus and bro I came back in. I

654
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: promise you I remember the spring when I walked in here.

655
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Mike say, damn, you lost yourself. You lost two of you. Yeah.

656
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: I was one hundred ninety pounds.

657
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: I needed that just twenty pounds. It's funny when I

658
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: asked that question, I forget how good you were. I

659
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: forget like you were like the dude every year I

660
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: did tell you the story. In two thousand and eleven,

661
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: I like did this charity thing and there was a

662
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: couple of scouts there. We were talking afterwards, and the scout,

663
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: like unsolicited, was like like he kind of got this

664
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: look in his eye and he goes, I am trying

665
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: to replace you every possible second, because I don't think

666
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: you're that good at football. And I was just like, okay,

667
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: and so so every year, every year they'd bring in

668
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: two or three guys, and I was just like, man,

669
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: I just got to just grind.

670
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: And so like the words of tall guy like yourself,

671
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: who's confident and motivated to go out there and do

672
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Speaker 2: what you do.

673
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so but I'm just saying, like, for I

674
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: forgot that you were like you were like the comfort,

675
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: and for me it was like they'd bring in like

676
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: when they brought in Vernon Davis. I remember everyone's like, oh,

677
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis is over the hill, Like oh, this is

678
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: all done. And I remember like the first day we

679
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: were doing uh like routes on air and Kirk took

680
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: like a five step drop and he outran the throw

681
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: from a seam, you know, and I was just like, well,

682
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: he's definitely not cooked.

683
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: So but you can honestly say that I've always had

684
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: to deal with them bringing as a receiver. You bring

685
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: in so many receivers anyway.

686
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: But I'm saying you never had one. You never had

687
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: one that like stressed you, is what I'm saying here.

688
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Was never like, oh hey we're riding Julio Johns. We

689
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: think about this in dB.

690
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: My first dB room from drafted at twenty years old

691
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: was the sanders Dale Green and Champagne.

692
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Well then we kept morphing.

693
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Then it was just me and Shun.

694
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: Then it was me Shunk Carlos. Then it was me

695
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: Shunk Carlos d Hall. Then it was like it was

696
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: always like Laurn Landry in the back. It was always

697
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: an all star cares. That's one position that I think

698
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: Washington has always coveted it, and then most of the

699
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: time always got right was the cornerback position.

700
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: So it was always cushing through that, you know. That's

701
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: how it was to in college. I think when you

702
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: came onto a college and you like basically a walk

703
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: on and you see Jamie Jermy, Magic Benton, oh My Role,

704
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: and Reggie Wayne come in as the top top recruit.

705
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Darryl Jones is the top recruit, but a dude named

706
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Daryl Williams that was I mean, my bad. Robert Williams

707
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: was better than Yeah this in Miami that was supposed

708
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: to be better than Reggie and Darryl Jones. All those

709
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: guys are freshman's with me. Another guy named Andre King,

710
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: who's twenty something years old. He was there. Boy, he

711
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: was twenty seven years old. He was an ex baseball player. Yeah,

712
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: So when you had all these guys come in and

713
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: it's just now it's me like, I all got guys

714
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: there and guys you came in with, and you're just like,

715
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: that's competition. It makes if you a ball, It brings

716
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: the best out of you. It should be to like

717
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: you should say it's time to go. I swear I

718
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: used to always tell myself, I forgot that. My dad

719
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: was the one that said a coach somebody told me,

720
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: make sure when you leave the field that day that

721
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: the coaching staff is saying something about you in a

722
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: positive way. I tell my kids that to this day,

723
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: I want to step off the field, and they be like,

724
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: because I to hear it, and I hold forty eight

725
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I told you that you're my freshman. And guys used

726
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: to be looked, but it was the greatest feeling when

727
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: they say who they hell that forty eighty and before

728
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: you know it, you know, before you know it, like

729
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: now people are gravitating to you, like you're just sitting

730
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: in the locker room, like I'm just trying to make

731
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: the team, trying to find out who my friends. My

732
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: roommate is a guy that played high school with me,

733
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: so I know I got him as a friend. I

734
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: ain't trying to talk to him. I thought of him

735
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: every day. I'm trying to see who else know me

736
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: and guys coming here, Hey boy, good practice, Hey hey

737
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: forty good practice. Before you know it, now the coach

738
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: is staff coming. He says, hey, you can do this,

739
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: you can do this. Y'all got that coach, and now

740
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: you got there cutting grass. So I say all I

741
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: have to say this. When I was in the league, man,

742
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: I care less about who you brought in because I

743
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: understood who I am, who you were. I was very

744
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: sure about myself and I can hear less about the

745
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: next guy. As long as you gave me the opportunity,

746
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna.

747
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Speaker 1: Pduce one hundred percent. All right, well, I think that's

748
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Speaker 1: in the leader. Sto our next segment, and we're going

749
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Speaker 1: to bring in our.

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Speaker 2: Producer here with a head full of hats.

751
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Gorgeous hair. We'll have you on camera one time just

752
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: so you can see his hair.

753
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: Hair.

754
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: So, Jason, how you doing, buddy?

755
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: I'm doing good.

756
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Producer.

757
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: Jason will never be in front.

758
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Of the oh bummer. So, yeah, you have a little

759
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: baby girl. How would you would you dress up for Halloween?

760
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't do anything.

761
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: My beautiful wife, yeah, so she was an avocado or

762
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: a little little.

763
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: Baby, but not taking a chipotle. Well then, uh, my

764
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: wife was a burrito like Chile.

765
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: And then I was the tinfoil like you said us

766
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: A picture was really cute. At first I didn't get it.

767
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on here? But then it

768
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: made sense.

769
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so.

770
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Then we all like, yeah, that was luke warm.

771
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: It was kind of cold on that.

772
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: So the tinfoil that I had was one of those

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Speaker 5: emergency blank.

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00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that was great.

775
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: Did you.

776
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: Up as a deer? And then his girl dressed up

777
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: as a hit light?

778
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: I saw that.

779
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that was kind of a pretty popular costume, but.

780
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Those are will throw it out costumes. I feel I.

781
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Feel like she came up with that on her own.

782
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: I didn't see that anywhere else.

783
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Caitlin, Yeah, of course. My wife is very

784
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: like former preschool teacher, like very resourceful, and she's like,

785
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: what can we do cheap?

786
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: But then I feel like the Heineke thing, I feel

787
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: like that's something you buy at the store because I

788
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: saw it a couple of different.

789
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, So Jason, what's the

790
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: next segment we got?

791
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we got a little segment here called Haters

792
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: Gonna Hate. Hey, producer, Jason's not going to be a

793
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: part of this.

794
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: This ter Jason Steelki Johnston.

795
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: This is stuff you've heard from fans, and.

796
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just there are haters out there.

797
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's in the world. I'm not even gonna say

798
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: there are fans.

799
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say I've seen it.

800
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: They feel that I seen it.

801
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: My family got haters in it.

802
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: So you're here, comes somebody, Here comes some hate. You

803
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: tell me if if I'm a real hater here or

804
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: if there's something you know we lost in these traits.

805
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: We didn't get enough back, we didn't get anything.

806
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I hate.

807
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: I hate.

808
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I hate having conversations with people like that because there's

809
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: like an emotional attachment.

810
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: To people that you know you was gonna lose anyway.

811
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: And you could and you could present every piece of

812
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: factual information.

813
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 4: This is why I know you a hater for that one.

814
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: It's like seeing your ex girlfriend knowing you don't really

815
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: want them, but you see a happy with her new boyfriend,

816
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden.

817
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: You want to hate on them. Like that's what it

818
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: is right there.

819
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta let go if you really love somebody.

820
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: That with Make's wife told, if you really love somebody,

821
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: you gotta let them go.

822
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean when I hear that, When I hear that,

823
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: I look at guys who's saying that, because I'm like, man,

824
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: you're just not happy. You hate it, but you're just

825
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: not happy because you weren't happy with the guys here

826
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: and now you're not happy that they're gone and what

827
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: we got and getting back and we don't even know

828
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: what we potentially getting back.

829
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: Listening to haters our morning because the sports Johnny, But

830
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: so say.

831
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: This with the Montes sweat thing, Yeah, that value equal

832
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: is very good for a guy that's not under contract

833
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: for next year. I think that's the thing. If he

834
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: was under contract for like five years, he'd be like,

835
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: that's terrible.

836
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Thinking about this though, too. And I don't want to

837
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: cut you up. I say this all say you do

838
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: it because you don't know how to apologize, and you

839
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: cut somebody. Yeah, so I always let you know. I

840
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: don't want to, but I'm apologized. But about how we

841
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: got back, how we got into the whole first round

842
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: to get Montese when he came, we got him in

843
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: very late, so you don't know what's around at that

844
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: time that's gonna be potentially that that's gonna be able

845
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: to help you. He was a valuable pick pick up

846
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: in the twenty six pick, yeah, twenty six, so it

847
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: might be a Montesa somebody better at Ron fall again,

848
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: we see it every year. That's why I don't. I

849
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: don't get when people go to talking before we can

850
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: even see what's available.

851
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: And I always tell people college, he's remaking another version

852
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: of us every year, and it might be scrowing, go fast,

853
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: but still at the end of you just just relax.

854
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Tanny, you brought this up when we

855
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: talked earlier. Basically, he was gonna either you're either going

856
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: to resign him or he's gonna walk at the end

857
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: of the year. And if he's gonna walk for nothing,

858
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather get a basically a late first round pick. Well,

859
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be, you know, a thirty fifth smell blind.

860
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: And so so that's what i'd say to that that fan,

861
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: I'd be like, or that that hater. Yeah, is that

862
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: while this seems bad, you're that value for Montez at

863
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: this moment of this franchise and at this moment of

864
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: his career and his contract situation. It's you can't pass

865
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: that up.

866
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: I say, coming some select jack. Yeah. So but the

867
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: one that I.

868
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: Think fans have might have, like they see it on paper. Yeah,

869
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: they say Chase Young, the former second over post a boy,

870
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: it is the name, Yeah, for a compensatory third round pick,

871
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: which is basically a fourth round pick. Did we get

872
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Hose in that deal? And what I would say to

873
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: them is he's been hurt. His production, while at times

874
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: has been very high, I'd say, has not lived up

875
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: to expectation for years. He has under twenty six, right,

876
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: And again we all think he's a good player.

877
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying yeah, But but perception

878
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: sometimes outweighs reality.

879
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's not even about that, it's just the

880
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: potential hasn't really gotten to be anything yet because of

881
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: the injury, and he hasn't been on the field. So

882
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: when you don't have the reps, you can't really see

883
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: what you really who you are, bingo.

884
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: And so if I'm a team, I'm not If I'm

885
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: a team trading for Chase, I'm not going to give

886
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: up anything of significant value because I'm like, I'm unsure

887
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: he's been hurt and he's been kind of lukewarm in

888
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: terms of production. Yeah, So that's why, like, that's probably

889
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: the best they could have gotten, in my opinion, is

890
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: that kind of range of pick. And I think that's

891
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: pretty generous.

892
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: By and still looking out for him and sending him

893
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: away to somewhere where he could potent to be.

894
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 4: The guy get blossomed.

895
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: That was like that was like ally for him, he

896
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: can blossom there, he possibly win a super Bowl. But

897
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: I think people had this this view of his rookie year. Yeah,

898
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: and that's how when they see this rookie year and

899
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: I hate the bust they bubb on that one.

900
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: It was a good rookie year.

901
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: But I've seen better.

902
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was such I'll perform that, yes,

903
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: sax wife, but he got the credit. But because they

904
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: fumble recovered that he picked up.

905
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: But it's also like I was talking to I was

906
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Kerrigan. This was way long time ago,

907
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, how was your rookie

908
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: year and he was like, I had seven sacks, I

909
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: had two fumble recoveries and it was like almost identical.

910
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: And you know, well Ryan had a very good rookie yar.

911
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: People weren't hyping.

912
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Up the same.

913
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't the number two p yeah right, yeah, And

914
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: so I think there's a little bit of that perception

915
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: that goes into that.

916
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: So you have a perception in the NFL has a

917
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: perception of him. The NFL perception was a third round

918
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: because he got shopped and people said, no, I'm not

919
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: giving you that.

920
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: I'd rather have him right, right, absolutely right.

921
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that calls your hate hate.

922
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 5: And one of the things, you know what, show he's

923
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: just not the guy.

924
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: Too many turnovers, not showing me enough, He just isn't it.

925
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: We got to move on.

926
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: The best quarterback we have since Kirk Cousins.

927
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm so glad you brought that up, though, Sorry

928
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: I cut you off.

929
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: So let me just say this.

930
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: So people say, oh, he's not ready, he's got too

931
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: many turnovers, whatever, whatever, whatever, I think back to Kirk

932
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Cousins his rookie year and they're they're very similar in

933
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: terms of production. You're this guy's gonna grow up. He's

934
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: gotten better every single week, every week, and he's way

935
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: more physically talented than Kirk Cousins. And I'm not saying

936
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: he's got to beat Kirk Cousins, but I'm saying, like

937
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: having a guy who's very talented, he's got that competitive moxie,

938
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: he's got that in fact, and he's gotten better every week.

939
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: And that's me. That's so port And so when I

940
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: look at that, sir, what if.

941
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I told the fans, this is the worst version of him. Yeah,

942
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: this year, it's the worst version of Sam Hat. He

943
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: can only get batter And what if I shocked you

944
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: and told you this, Pat Mahomes, God's gift to quarterback

945
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: only got one hundred and forty more yards than Sam,

946
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: only got two more touchdowns in the interceptions of right there,

947
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: So step back Hat.

948
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: And let this man graduate.

949
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: And so we were going to talk about the Philly game.

950
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: Like in that game, I mean he's starting, he completes

951
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: his first seven passes. Yes, he looks in total control

952
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: pretty much the whole game. Obviously, we talked about this

953
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: on you know, in our production meeting. There's that there's

954
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: like a ten play sequence at the eight thirty mark

955
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: after where he looks a little bit flummoxed. Yeah, but

956
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: he's a young football player. Very those things are going

957
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: to happen. He threw an interception there, he looked a

958
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: little tight on fourth down whatever whatever, Missmbalssentarry. That's frustrating.

959
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: But also he's a young football player who threw for

960
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: four hunds the football against.

961
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: He still gathering information. I think when when you watch

962
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: him play, that's why you see every week it's like

963
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: a new guy out there. Like he goes from having

964
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 2: one of his best games and then the next week

965
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: he gets something different that he wasn't ed to or

966
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: I haven't seen yet, and then he goes back, he

967
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: regress a little bit, and then I guess what, the

968
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: next week he goes back to having on even a

969
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: better game. He's gathering information on the go on the fly.

970
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: So when you see that being done and you see

971
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: a guy that can say, Okay, this is what I

972
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: did wrong last week, I'm better that, you have have

973
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: to have hope and respect to say, man, this guy

974
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: is the guy here. You can't really hate that because

975
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: being young, normally see young guys melt and be a

976
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: shut of theirself. They can't even deal with that week

977
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: to week. Yeah you know what I mean, dysfunction of

978
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: not knowing what the defense is gonna bring and he

979
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: knows they're gonna blitz him half the time.

980
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I tell you, hey, at the end of

981
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: the day, I feel like Sam howl ain't even made

982
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: it to his bye week.

983
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Like are you serious? All right, we ain't. I'm gonna

984
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: tell you what.

985
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: When people are not used to stuff, they don't know

986
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: how to treat it. We are not used to good

987
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: quarterback here, so we don't know how to watch it for.

988
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: Grace well, and I think also to that point, Fred,

989
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: it's it's you don't watch people. People watch this team

990
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: when you watch other games, when you watch other teams,

991
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: when you study other teams, you realize that it's this

992
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: is good, this is pretty.

993
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: You want to know what stinks?

994
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: They have a quarterback. They're what stinking quarterback look like.

995
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: And so let's do this real quick. Let's talk about

996
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: confidence meter. Our confidence meter. It just go around the league.

997
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: And so the one that's fresh in my mind because

998
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: I just watched a lot of them is Mac Jones.

999
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Mac Jones a former first round

1000
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: pick or Sam Howe? I think this is an easy one.

1001
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: And what's your confidence meter in Mac Jones winning you

1002
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: a game five and a half, five and a half

1003
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, guys, it straight.

1004
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: No no here.

1005
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: Got a thing about Matt Jones is he's too emotional combustible,

1006
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: like if you watch him, and even coach Saban said

1007
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: he was like the one thing if I had to

1008
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: tell mex that we had control when he was at Alabama,

1009
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: we controlled his emotion. Like when he make a band play,

1010
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 3: he whined like a baby. When he make a good play,

1011
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: he's a static.

1012
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Know what I love about Sam?

1013
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: Sam is just middle.

1014
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm not mon emotional man. I still got three quarters

1015
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: of ball to player. I don't care nothing about that.

1016
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: I still got to go play ball.

1017
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: So I the covenant is.

1018
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: Matter in mac Jones. His name too regular too.

1019
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: I'm not to give it a four. Four.

1020
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not very confident in right now. I think

1021
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: he had a really good game against the Bills. Was

1022
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: that two weeks ago? But he's had some absolutely well

1023
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you look.

1024
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: At him his first year. John mc dange's really was

1025
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: the kind of the puppet master behind him having that

1026
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl season. So it's all about, too, who you

1027
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: got calling the players, who you got putting you in position?

1028
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: Who catching it? Kendrick Bard just got hurt.

1029
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne. Uh, Parker's hurt there for them too, but nobody.

1030
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about. So it's Tommy DeVito, He's starting in

1031
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: New York.

1032
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: He has he has less yours than the dead Man.

1033
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Don't you know? He got next negative negative? Your past?

1034
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 6: What screen play got stopped on the back from that

1035
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 6: sounds fitting for New Yorkers, Like, No, it's like one

1036
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 6: of those those those Gambino movies or something, the Beato.

1037
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that in Good Fellas, Joe Petty's character's

1038
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: name is Timmy Daviata.

1039
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: And he also got a niggative.

1040
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: But you know, like there's some bad quarterbacks the I mean,

1041
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: how would you feel if if Jordan Love is.

1042
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: The quarterback here?

1043
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: Would you?

1044
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Would you like Jordan Love? I do take him over Sam, No,

1045
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. It's hard he is younger, Yeah,

1046
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but also to you, I don't know. I

1047
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: can't answer that. Is it like a wash for you?

1048
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Kind of in terms of comp because I feel like

1049
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: when I watched Jordan Love, I mean, there there are various.

1050
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: Plays where he have he have He shows you the potential.

1051
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Then I see plays to where he's kind of still

1052
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: learning and trying to figure it out, you know what

1053
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1054
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: So I think get too much props. I'm not sold

1055
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: on him.

1056
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: Floor.

1057
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 4: I'm not sold on the floor.

1058
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm sold on the floor.

1059
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I think the thing about Green Bay, just to give

1060
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: some context, is they have all all of their all

1061
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: of their offensive playmakers out of the running back are

1062
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: in their first or second year behind an offensive line

1063
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: that suffer a lot of injuries. So I don't think

1064
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you can kind of.

1065
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: And that's why I say you can't really show because

1066
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: that especially the officer line. I think the officer line

1067
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: is to me, the deciding the fact that when it

1068
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: comes to a lot of quarterbacks.

1069
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: Come to the offensive players period.

1070
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: Don't hurt no ball that hurts how much time he

1071
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: sits there, and don't don't flint he holds the ball

1072
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: more than like if you put him behind the office

1073
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: of line and got the bread man, we'll be we'll

1074
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: be looking at Hurts like we look at Sam like

1075
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, We'll be having those same

1076
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: questions at time. So to me, I think you can't really,

1077
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, give those guys a good rating or say

1078
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: what it is behind them until they get their true

1079
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: protection or get behind a good team that's going to

1080
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: put him in situations that we can really see him

1081
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: flirt right Logan, Hey, dewy Cox, what you thinking about him? Man?

1082
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, I really like Jordan Love.

1083
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I think he's got some ability. I do think there's

1084
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of irregularity in game for me, I

1085
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: just or something about Sam like when he's on, he's on,

1086
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: he is on. Yeah, like watching him in that Philly game,

1087
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: just how consistent, how poised he is, you can make

1088
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: every single throw. I mean I still think about that

1089
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Broncos game. A couple throws me in that game, and I.

1090
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: Just like that is we throw for child I mean

1091
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: Childer to me, the one that that was great man

1092
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 3: man as a conaback this show Wards nightmare.

1093
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: I could be in this hill pocket but that passed.

1094
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Speaker 1: I can't defat or the Baali through the Gibson on

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Speaker 1: the rail. I can't right over the top there right

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Speaker 1: in the bucket. And so you see enough of those

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00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: high level things and right now, I think the thing

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Speaker 1: that is like the biggest glaring issue with his game

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Speaker 1: is that he takes a lot of sacks. But you've

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Speaker 1: seen that eb if he calls a good game or

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Speaker 1: he calls the right game, because he's always calling pretty

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Speaker 1: good games. Yeah, like getting out of that five step

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00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: drop stuff a little bit more like he took he

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Speaker 1: took one secon against Philly, Yeah, and absolutely deal late

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Speaker 1: sack and it was on a fourth and five and

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Speaker 1: in the louds portion of So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I look at that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, there there's so much there to be

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Speaker 1: excited about with Sam, And if you're a fan of him,

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Speaker 1: I know this hater over here is doing whatever he's doing. Yeah,

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00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: he throwing out, But I just think there's enough outside

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna get better.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like there's certain times you're like, you watch a quarterback

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00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, for example, with Mac Jones, like what

1116
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: is his ceiling? Because you watch him and he does

1117
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: these process as well. His arm talent's not there, so

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Speaker 1: they have a really hard time pushing the ball to

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Speaker 1: the sideline and.

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Speaker 2: He don't do it right.

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Speaker 1: And I think with Sam, you see all the physical

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00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: tools and you see the mental stuff starting to come

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Speaker 1: with it. And I'm just saying, if he can become

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Speaker 1: And I just think about Kirk early in his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone everyone was hating on Kirk, but he developed into

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Speaker 1: But he developed into one of the best, one of

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00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks in the league, is what I'd say.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think Sam is ahead.

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Speaker 2: Of that right now. Yeah, So did that all right?

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Speaker 4: Sails?

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00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: So Jason are we doing this? Are you hating this one?

1132
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Speaker 1: Or are we doing this one?

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00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: On? Around here?

1134
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: This team can't make the playoffs?

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00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: You know that.

1136
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: That's a hater right there.

1137
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: I can't do it. We can't do it.

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00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 5: We're too far behind. We're giving up pieces. Sam, howel

1139
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: ain't it We're not getting there?

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Speaker 2: Can't do it well? Like his voice asked, Yeah, I

1141
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: love it. Hater's voice, right, It's fitting the character, you

1142
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Because you know Jason and I

1143
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: know don't talk, you know, but you know I was

1144
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: just talking to this. I was talking to Sheen. I said,

1145
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: I kind of talked about just that twenty twelve season

1146
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: we had, man, it was three and six that year

1147
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: and found our way in the playoffs until I found

1148
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: our way riding high going into the playoffs. So anything

1149
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: is possible, you know what I mean. And now you

1150
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: have an extra game, so you know, you never know

1151
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: what can happen late in the season. But I will

1152
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: also say this, I will understand the little hate behind

1153
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: this one because of who we just you know, got

1154
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: rid of. But then you, like I said before, you

1155
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: haven't been watching what we have at depth. You haven't

1156
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: been watching this team as a whole and let them play.

1157
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: I think when you let it, let a team go

1158
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: out there and play, eventually they gonna show you who

1159
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: they are. And I think we have at least three

1160
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: to four more games. I'm about three games to really

1161
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: say we're going to be in and on the three

1162
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Speaker 2: or four games.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of them things where all right,

1164
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: let's go realistic. We already oer and three in the division,

1165
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: but we can go five hundred in the division. You

1166
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: can still go three and three in individual. You got

1167
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: some games you can win. You got the New England

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00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: Patriots ahead. Of course, people gonna look and say, Miami,

1169
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: it looks something beatable, But I watch them get beat

1170
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Speaker 3: all the time, like it's ways to see how it's

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00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: way to make this thing happen.

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Speaker 4: I tell them all the time, take every season.

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Speaker 3: One game at a time, because once we go and one,

1174
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: I mean one and oh and in the season open

1175
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 3: we win in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Then when we're three and one after.

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Speaker 2: Four games, oh, get my ticket? Do you lose to

1178
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Speaker 2: in a rowing?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

1180
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: We just think in his tickets. So you can't go

1181
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: on this emotional roller coaster.

1182
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: What you can do is sit back and then enjoy

1183
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: the riot because I can say this, this is the beginning,

1184
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Speaker 3: This is only the beginning.

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Speaker 1: And I would say that when you look at this

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Speaker 1: team in ten, I think you just brought this up,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to reiterate something there is when

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00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: I look at this offense and I see what they

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Speaker 1: did against Philly in both outings, I say, that is

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Speaker 1: an offense that can win you some football games. Right,

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00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: So if they can, if they can play with that

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Speaker 1: level of consistency, it was gonna be tough, Sam, how

1193
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: is a young player. It's gonna be tough to play

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Speaker 1: with that level of consistency and finding different ways to win.

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Speaker 1: You know, can you run the football in some games?

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Speaker 1: Can you throw the football like they did in the

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Speaker 1: Philly games? And then can the defense play a little

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Speaker 1: bit better a lot better? And so but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: we're talking about in a close game, can they make

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Speaker 1: the one or two plays we need?

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00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: Right? Can they make the one or two plays we need?

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I would say is gonna be

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Speaker 1: if if that happens, which I think is entirely possible.

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Speaker 1: It's entirely possible that happens. Let's say Benjamin Saint Juice.

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Speaker 1: And let's just take the Philly game, because we're just

1206
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: talking Abo. He makes that PBu with makes PBu with

1207
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Speaker 1: one hand, Ki yeah, right, or they break up that

1208
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Speaker 1: pass to Julio and the enzng right, two plays, totally

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Speaker 1: different outcome of the game. Or Forbes in that Tampa too.

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Speaker 2: Right, or Forbes you know, don't keep running fading back on.

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Speaker 4: Now and just finish the play at the highest point.

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Speaker 1: And I think that, like then the game is completely

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Speaker 1: different and all of a sudden, you don't need thirty

1214
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Speaker 1: points to score, you just need twenty eighth and that's

1215
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: a much more reasonable thing. And against some teams with

1216
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Speaker 1: like less efficient quarterback play, I think that's gonna be plenty.

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Speaker 1: So can the defense make five more plays and can

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Speaker 1: the offense play with this level of consistency for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, because that's objectively good offense for

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Speaker 1: three and a half quarters And so if they can

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Speaker 1: do that, and I do think and I do think,

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Speaker 1: we talked about them moving some of these pieces. Jack

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Speaker 1: win Chase has been out, has been a little bit

1224
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Speaker 1: more exotic, and I think that will be helpful.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't have any of this is

1227
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: an inside baseball. It's just like based on past performance

1228
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: what I think happened. So there's a very real possibility

1229
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Speaker 1: that they play better, they win some games they shouldn't win,

1230
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: and they win the games they should win, and they

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Speaker 1: end up in the playoffs. You know, it's interesting. You

1232
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: made me think back to twenty ten and eleven with

1233
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Speaker 1: Kyle and I remember we had like, you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: Tannis here, but we had like Jabbar Gaffney and Star

1235
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Wars and guys that were good football players. But and

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00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, Rex Rex Grossman was the quarterback and I

1237
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Speaker 1: love Rex, but we were not an extremely talented team.

1238
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: But the way it forced Kyle and that offensive staff

1239
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: to like get in the pen work and say, oh

1240
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: we can get this, Oh, look at this coverage, we

1241
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: can attack this, look at that we Oh can we

1242
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: get with this motion? And it just it elevated, It

1243
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: elevated the team because he pushed himself harder. And I

1244
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: think maybe that's what Jack does when when montesen or

1245
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: when Chase, He's done that, when Chase has been out,

1246
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: and so I think just adding that and again it's

1247
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: like not like Casey and James have played bad ball.

1248
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: They played fine ball. So I think it's definitely a

1249
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: possibility to make the playoffs. We understand the hate, but

1250
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: but but I think there's a world where that that

1251
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: is unwarranted. That hey, and a lot of hate there

1252
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: on that one.

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Speaker 4: Listen, sometimes you got to lean on Jesus, hater, Jason's gone.

1254
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Speaker 1: Look at happier, right, yeah, happier. Well, I think that's

1255
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Speaker 1: that doesn't right for the show today. It's crazy, all right,

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Speaker 1: So make sure you guys tune in on Friday because

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Speaker 1: we're doing a preview part of the New England Patriots

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00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: game and talk about a team.

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Speaker 2: That's having a tough go. And then make sure Frederick,

1260
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: yes that you know you have a podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do get loud and I'm always loud.

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Speaker 2: Me and the man get loud. We got the next

1263
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Speaker 2: man up, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of our thing behind not really football y

1265
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Speaker 1: right in the weeds there and then Players Club Tana

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Speaker 1: that's your thing, right, Logan Thomas, Dude, Logan Thomas is

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Speaker 1: always fun at time, So Logan to spend that rock.

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Speaker 1: Now you gonna demo that live on the show, Coach London.

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