1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers report your roundup of companies making moves 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: in the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm Carol Masser along with Tim Statvik. Let's get to 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: some stocks on the move. Joining us right now is 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News Crossouse that reported Danizazikova here in studio. A 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: lot to talk about, a lot to choose from, because 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: docs are certainly on the move. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: Let's start with Cisco, which less than. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours ago we were all over their earnings. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 4: For sure, a lot of stocks in the red, and 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: definitely Cisco is one of the big down names today. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 4: It's actually nearly worse the day in four years. The 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: company is down about twelve percent. The ticker, of course 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 4: is CSCO. At the company gave weaker than expected forecast 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: for profitability, and everyone is looking at those numbers in 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: terms of profits, and clearly we're seeing a sign that 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: memory chip prices are in a toll that said, there 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: were pretty good numbers when it comes to ABEAT sales forecast. 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 4: The number that perhaps is worrying investors is just a 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: growth growth margin, which came roughly at sixty six percent, 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: which was lower than what the street. 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: So higher costs, you're just not as profitable. 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, And obviously there is a lot of competition 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: in that space. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: We have HP, we have Broadcom. 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: There is also a memory chip shortage, so there are 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: a lot of headwinds in that state space. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: The company was doing well here today before this. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: Now it's down here to date, but obviously today is 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: the big drag. What we're seeing, of course is tightening margins, 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: but also some delay in US government contracts, which is 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: also wearing in the company for. 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: Sure, you know on it. It'd be interesting to see 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: what the stock would do on today when the entire 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: tech sector is not lower. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the NASA and a half percent. 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: Apples down five percent, Cisco's the second biggest drag, but 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: app Lovin is down twenty percent, and Tesla down three percent. Amazon, 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 5: Meta Platforms, Broadcom all down more than two point five percent. 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: It's hard to find stocks in the green, especially anything 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: text software. 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: It's really hard. 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I think it's also a nervous, jittery market when it 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: comes to AI in terms of okay to spend the 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: build out the ROI, right, we know folks are continuing 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: to spend, but the return on investment and then who 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: ultimately are the winners, but also the impact on so 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: many different sectors. This AI scare trade continues moving through 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the market. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: It's really fascinating. 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: Every day we see a newtube being released and a 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: totally news sector of the market that we thought was 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: kind of immune being hit. And that's what happening to 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: logistics today. This is the AI scare trade of the day. 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: If we look at the Russell three thousand trucking index, 57 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: it's down more than three percent today and some of 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: the names like cch Robinson Worldwide down twenty percent. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: It's really really big losses and. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: It's coming after Algorithm Holdings is giving a live customer 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 4: deployment which is supposed to scale fried volumes by three 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: hundred four hundred percent. So the whole thing is maybe 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: we will need fewer trucks and fewer workers, which is 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: going to weigh on trucking and more likely on logistics. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 5: I thought I thought the like things were safe, right, things. 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: Were safe, all the economy was safe, right, So. 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Is AI supposed to make it more efficient, like so 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: that truckloads don't go out until they're fully packed, and 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: so maybe it don't make. 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: Exactly it's more about efficiency, not getting more trucks that 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: you need and kind of fearing perfectly little jig sticks 72 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: before actually getting the trucks, and again that means less 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: labor and fewer trucks. 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: So those companies, I'm. 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Going to get a T shirt that says knee jerk 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: reaction because I just think, you know, anybody who comes 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: on right reminds us like, we're going to see how 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: this plays out. They're going to be winners and losers, 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: no doubt about it, and our world is going to change. 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. I guess we'll have 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: to just wait and see. 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: Be patient. 83 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: That AI scared trade, so logistics stocks. We're seeing a 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: play at real estate servicing companies too. 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: That's another one. It's really hard to find the winners. 86 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: I feel almost every sector is considered to be a 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: loser in some sap or form. An interesting one is 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: real estate services cbr E groups that dropped as much 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: as fifteen percent. This is a real estate services company. 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: Of course, of those kinds of commercial real estate companies 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: have been under a lot of pressure ever since the 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: pandemic Obviously there was a big lag, there was a 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: big issue with office space. But the company is saying 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: now that the outlook remains uncertain as AI may reduce 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: long term office space demand. They're saying fewer and fewer 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: workers may work from the office, so there will be 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: less and less demand for those massive office buildings. 98 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: Obviously that's very few Have I heard this. 99 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 5: I was just going to say, yeah, I thought this 100 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: happened during COVID, in post COVID, but. 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: We talked about it six years ago. 103 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I thought it's going to create new jobs. Yeah. 104 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: Also, I mean a lot of those things you can 105 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: see a few day trade. The analysts are saying, oh, 106 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: this is overblown, and there is a little bit of 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: calm down. But this is obviously like really in the future. 108 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: But investors are definitely punishing any sector that could be 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: in any way shaped by AI. 110 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: This stock mover's report from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 113 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: moving headlines. 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