1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: One week into the coaching search, what do we know? 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: God Zach erstmin Whipenberg Gang. As of Monday, ten names 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: and maybe an eleventh have been reportedly linked to the job. 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Plus Trey McBride, He's not just a Pro Bowl tight end, 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: he's an All Pro tight end. Well deserved by the way. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine sixty nine, and it 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: starts now. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Poa Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast pop. 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Right at the five, hit to the ends, up for 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: the Cardinal touchdown. 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monster. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griolo. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: So let me just say this right off the I 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: would have much rather been working this weekend. Unfortunately that 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: was not the case. Instead, it was a weekend spent 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: watching a lot of football, a lot of good football. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Plus Zac. We've got one more tonight, Steelers and Texans 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: to cap off wild card weekend. 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 4: Does Aaron Rodgers continue his legendary NFL career. Is this 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: going to be CJ. Stroud's time to just show that 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: that sophomore slump was just exactly that and that he 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: is still that quarterback that everyone saw rookie year. I 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: don't know if I'm setting the scene up perfectly or not. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: You covered basically both story Those. 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Are basically the storylines. Right there. 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: Is Mike Tomlin gonna stay the head coach if the 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: case that the Pittsburgh Steelers lose. I don't know, but 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: I did see that the Pittsburgh Penguins, the hockey team, 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: they showed a fan in the stands and he was 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: wearing a hat that said play Renegade and it dimmed. 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: The screen dimped to black after they showed him on 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: the screen, and they start to play the Steelers hype 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: up video and the f went nuts. Now, I hate 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Penguins every fiber of my being. If there's 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: one franchise out there that's not in the NFL that 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: I absolutely cannot stand, it's the Pittsburgh Penguins. However, I 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: thought that was a pretty cool moment to see all 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: their fans get excited. 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: At least Philadelphia fans have something to look forward. 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: To, which is spring training. 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh okay, you're just gonna bypass hockey season. 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: Basketball suers just lost like seven to two to the 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Lightning. The Philadelphia seventy six ers can't inbound 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: a pass to try to get a game winning drive in. 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: So spring training it is. 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: I love the to know I know what buttons to 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: push with Zach Gershman over the other side. 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: That's fair. 53 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: But you know what, as long as we just have 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 4: a solid outfield. I just both the both the Diamondbacks 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: and the Phillies. 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: Neither of us. 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: Got Alex Bregman, So I guess we could all just 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: mutually pout together. 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: We'll get into what happened for the weekend. And by 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the way, even going back to Thursday and the Fiesta Bowl, 61 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: and you look at those four games or the four 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: days worth of football Thursday through Sunday now tonight as well, 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: it's been it's been a lot of fun to watch. 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: But again, unfortunately we're not We're watching as opposed to covering, 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of leads us to where we are 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: right now because we are one week into a head 67 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: coaching search. It was one week ago today in which 68 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals fired head coach Jonathan Gannon. And as 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: we speak here on this Monday afternoon, there are ten names, 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: ten reported names. The Cardinals have either requested an interview 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: or have scheduled an interview, and maybe by now have 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: actually conducted an interview. All we know are the ten 73 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: names that are out there, and this is a process 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and fans would love to know, Zach Hey, who's our 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: head coach? Yesterday doesn't work that way. It could be 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: another week, two weeks, Heck, it could be the beginning 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: of February before the Arizona card have filled that spot. 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, when the Cardinals hired Jonathan Gannon, it was one 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: of the latest that the team has had to hire 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: a coach. But that's because Jonathan Gannon was in the 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: Super Bowl in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three with 82 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles, so obviously they needed to wait a 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: little bit. Is the same situation that the New Orleans 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: Saints had this past year with Kellen Moore. They had 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: to wait a little bit of time, although in a 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: situation like his, it seemed like everybody already started to 87 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: link and connect the dots that Kellen Moore was going 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: to be the head guy over there for the Saints. 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: This is going to be a long process, and I 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: think it's still because not a lot of jobs are 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 4: fully still secure for even a lot of the teams 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: that are in the playoffs right now. I mean I 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: made the comment about Mike Tomlin. It's it's a serious 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: storyline right now going on there in the East Coast. 95 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: We were even talking about the TV broadcast for the 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: Bills Jaguars game. They were talking about it with Sean McDermott. 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: Could he possibly be done if the Bills don't end up. 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: Winning this game. 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: So there's still a lot that's going on right now. 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: I know you mentioned the ten reported names. Those are 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: simply just reported, speculated per sources. None of that necessarily 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: means things have been confirmed. We are not in the 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: rooms to know. This is being kept very close to 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: the vest, and I think that there's a reason as 105 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: to why it's being kept close to the vest, But 106 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: I think it's also just because there is still so 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: much time. A lot can change between now and February. 108 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: You do know you're going to have a coach by 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: the time end of February comes around, and you're going 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: over there to the combine. At least you have your 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: fingers crossed that that's going to be the case. But look, 112 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: Michael Bidwell simply said straight up, this is a season 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: that we're going to try to make. 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: This is an off seas. 115 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna try to make the right higher so that 116 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: we could start winning games as soon as year number one. 117 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: That's the plan. It doesn't happen overnight. They're going to 118 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: try to figure this out and bringing the right guy. 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: Here are the ten reported names, and we'll go in 120 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: alphabetical order here because again depending on reports and sources, 121 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: don't really know exactly the order of things, so it's 122 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: just very easy to go, Hey, alphabetical Jeff Hafley, Packers 123 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Vance Joseph Broncos defense. It's a quording. In fact, 124 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: former Arizona Cardinals DC as well, Clint Kubiak, Seahawks offensive coordinator, 125 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Mike Leffleur, Rams offensive coordinator Raheem Morris, the former Falcons 126 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: head coach, Matt Naggy, chief SoC Robert Sala forty nine 127 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Ers defensive coordinator, Chris Shula, Rams defensive coordinator, and Anthony 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Weaver Dolphin's defensive coordner. So you look at those ten names, 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: four with previous head coaching experience, Vance, Joseph Raheem Morris, 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, Robert Sala plus Thomas Brown was the Bears 131 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: interim coach in twenty twenty four and Jeff Hafley, former 132 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: college head coach with Boston College from twenty twenty to 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So again, when you have a head coach, 134 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: first time head coach and that does not work out, 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: many people believe, Okay, we need to try something different, 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: find someone with previous head coaching experience. Then when you 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: have that head coach and it doesn't work out, and think, okay, 138 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: let's try that. Find that young, up and coming coordinate 139 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: or whether that's an offensive minded or a defensive minded person. 140 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: And that's I think where the Cardinals are right now 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: because they've had that first time head coach previously, they 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: haven't had the experienced head coach. Bruce Arians was an interim, 143 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: but you have to go back to Dennis Green when 144 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: he was hired to be the Cardinals head coach way 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: back when. So again that's those are the names. Six 146 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: with defensive backgrounds, four with offensive backgrounds, some familiar names, 147 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: some names within the division, which again isn't also a 148 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: talking point out there, Zach, because you're looking at all, right, 149 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: what are the Seahawks' rams and forty nine ers doing 150 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: so well? Why don't we pluck from them to try 151 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: to uplift the Arzona carry. 152 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: You're trying to purge the West and trying to steal 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: as much as you can, because if you're making yourself 154 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: better in this process and you're taking you're taking pieces 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: away from the West, by default, you're making their teams 156 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: worse and and a competitive division like the NFC West 157 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: is obviously the Cardinals are on the spot that they 158 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 4: want to be at right now. But by adding to 159 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: your team, you're subtracting from other teams. Once again, this 160 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: is just the this is just a reported list of 161 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: people that are speculated to be and this is a 162 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 4: lot of agents reaching out and things of that nature. 163 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: It's a very tricky, foggy time to kind of navigate 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: between because you don't truthfully know what is or isn't 165 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: actually going on out there. But you mentioned the optics behind. Okay, 166 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: you have a coordinator, you come in, you try to 167 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: you elevate them to becoming a head coach for the 168 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: first time. 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: It does always work. 170 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Typically the plan is to go and try to find 171 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: an experience head coach and try to give him that 172 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: second opportunity out there. In a case like Vance Joseph, 173 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: obviously he had that at a certain point. But you 174 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: don't have all those times, all the situations like the 175 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: Mike Frables of the world, where they become a head coach, 176 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: they get fired, they spend a year on the sidelines, 177 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: and then they come right back into it. For Mike Frabel, 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: he approached a perfect situation going to a situation, going 179 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: to a spot, a team that he had a lot 180 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: of familiarity with as a player, won Super Bowl rings 181 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: over there, and he had that opportunity to really sit 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: back and warn the game from a different side of 183 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: things when he wasn't coaching for the Tennessee Titans after 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: he got let go. I don't know what direction the 185 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Cardinals are going to go in. It wouldn't surprise me 186 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: if they opt to go back to a coordinator and 187 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: try to give him that shot, because you look at 188 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: across the league, that's how a lot of these coaches 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: are starting to make their money as they come from 190 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: being a coordinator and then they find themselves as a 191 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: head coach and there's some excitement there. Demiko Ryans seeing 192 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: what he was able to do in the first year, 193 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 4: what Ben Johnson's been able to do. The coordinators have 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: done a pretty solid job all things considered, transitioning to 195 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: becoming head coaches. Now it's just on the Cardinals to 196 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: find which is going to be that next guy that 197 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 4: could take the team that goes from worse to first, 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: because there's always going to be that one team. And 199 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: I think you're starting to see it all around right now. 200 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: The Jacksonville Jaguars and how they were able to make 201 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: it to the postseason, the Bears. As I mentioned, there's 202 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: candidates out there, Craig. 203 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: You want to move up that ladder, so to speak, 204 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: from position coach to coordinator to head coach. The pretty 205 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: much everyone and that's regardless of what you do sports 206 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: real life. Everyone wants to elevate and be that top guy. 207 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Now you look at some of the coordinators on this list, 208 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: and one name, Robert Sala, has been that guy as 209 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: far as within the division. He did elevate, he dies 210 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: work his way up to the top, became the Jets 211 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: head coach, didn't work out well, bumped down to a 212 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: coordinator level. Now he's been very solid again with the 213 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and has put his name in the 214 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: mix once again. And you brought it up. Okay, well, 215 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: forty nine ers very very successful, specifically defensively. So can 216 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: you make yourself better at the same time as hurting 217 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: someone within the division. That's a name that's out there 218 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: that I get why it's so popular, and then you 219 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: look at some of the other names within the division. 220 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak Seahawks offensive coordinator, first time coordinator last season 221 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: after they made that switch in McDonald's after his first year. 222 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: They made the change at OC not a head coach 223 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: but son of a former head coach, and Gary Kubiak 224 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: and then the Rams offensive coordinator defensive coordator. Familiar names 225 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Michael Laforer, younger brother Packers head coach Matt laflor and 226 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Chris Shula, the grandson of Hall of Fame coach Don Shula. 227 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: So they have head coaching in their blood, if you will, 228 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: and our football lifers. So they've been around the game 229 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: and at the same time, okay, they've been very successful 230 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: at their respective stops. Are those are those individuals worth 231 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: taking a look at or bringing in for a visit 232 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: and interview to see if they are capable or if 233 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: they're not capable, if they are ready to take the 234 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: next step. 235 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: And that's and that's a big part of it because 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: these guys are such young guys as well. I think 237 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: when Jonathan Gannon came in, so much of the talk 238 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: was about how young his coaching staff was, and you 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: start you start to see that a lot with Nick Rolis, 240 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: with Drew Petsing, a lot of these younger guys that 241 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: are out there, and I think that there were moments 242 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: where their agent inexperience to the position as they're still 243 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: trying to learn what it's like to actually call the 244 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: shots out there. It showed at different points and they've 245 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: and they've even talked about that. I mean, Drew Petson 246 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: was talking about how sometimes he's looking down at the play, 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: looking ahead, looking ahead at what the next play is 248 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: gonna be, while that play is still actually going on 249 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: that he just called, and he said that that would 250 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: took a little bit of time in terms of actually 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: getting the play call out there and thinking of what's next. 252 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: So these young guys that. Fortunately for them, they've had 253 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: a lot of experience at calling the plays already and 254 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: they've been quite successful at doing that. I'm not sure 255 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: if you can make this the legend's house and you 256 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: start to bring in all the sons of all these 257 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: legendary and grandsons of all these legendary coaches, and you 258 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: get to pair them up with a son of a 259 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: legendary wide receiver and Marvin Harrison Junior, I'm not sure 260 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: how we can make that happen. The marketing campaign would 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: be absolutely incredible if we're able to make that happen, 262 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: But I do think that at the end of the day, 263 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: many Austin Ford said, something Jonathan Gannon did really well 264 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: was he was a leader of men, and that is 265 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: something that they're looking for in their next head coach, 266 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: somebody that's able to lead this organization forward. This is 267 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: a team that has been on the rise obviously on 268 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: the field. That wasn't the case this year, and they've 269 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: all talked about that, the frustration, the disappointment, and that's 270 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: why Michael Bidwell said he's going to put a stop 271 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: in the middle of the road of what's actually been 272 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: going on because he said, they've been going the wrong direction. 273 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: Now they're trying to turn it back around and try 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 4: to get the train back on track. So whoever it 275 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: is a young guy. And right as we're recording this, 276 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 4: right now, the Falcons have officially announced that they've interviewed 277 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, his first official interview. So these are just 278 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: going to continue going on, and it's going to go 279 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: from the top candidates like the John Harbaugh's, the Mike 280 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: McDaniels out there, all the way down to the Thomas Browns, 281 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: who is the past game coordinator for the Patriots. 282 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: Let me say this one more thing on these list 283 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: of names, as far as you know, do you want 284 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: a young up and comer or do you want someone 285 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: who's been in the position before? And then you always 286 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: hear that term retread, Well, why do we need to 287 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: go back to someone who's already done it and failed 288 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: at it? Well, you can get better. You learn by 289 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: your past mistakes, your past failure. So who's to say 290 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: if you get that second opportunity to be the man 291 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: in charge you don't learn from what didn't go well, 292 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: bring back what did work, and you are a better 293 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: leader of men as a head coach and then you 294 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: have to make the decision. Okay, do I still call 295 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: plays offense defense? If I'm the head coach? Jonathan Gannon 296 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: chose not to do that. There are head coaches that 297 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: still call plays. Again, those are all discussions that will 298 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: be happening behind the scenes as far as all right, 299 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: we're interested in you, we like what you offer. What 300 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: can you tell us about yourself, your own staff. Who 301 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: might you be able to bring in as your offensive coordinator, 302 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator and fill out your own 303 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: staff because you've got the connections out there, or are 304 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: you going to need some assistance in filling out that staff. 305 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: So there's the that's the other because I again I 306 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know which direction. And there's not to say that 307 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: they're there's a better direction, whether it's a first time 308 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: versus someone with previous experience. I just know that typically 309 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: you do the opposite of what you had before to 310 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: try to make things better. 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I question, uh, let's let's have some a 312 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: little bit of fun here. 313 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: Could this year have just been a one year fall 314 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: off from what from what the Cardinals had because of 315 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: the direction that they were going in, because they went 316 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: from the four wins to the eight wins under Jonathan 317 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: and could this year have just been it didn't work out? 318 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: The injuries piled on up, you know, the inexperience are 319 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: in a lot of different positions because of the lack 320 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: of continuity with the injuries. Could that have all played 321 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: a role is and then next year when everyone comes 322 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: back possibly healthy, you have a clearer idea of what's 323 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: going to be happening at quarterback. As we talked about 324 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: any Austin Ford said, all options are out there at 325 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: a lot of different positions. You could bring in a 326 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: game changer at number three. Could they be back on 327 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: track simply because they're going to be fully healthy. So 328 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: do you necessarily need to do the complete opposite of 329 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: what you have previously done because you saw the steps 330 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: that it was going in the right direction prior to 331 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: these injuries. I'm not necessarily saying that that's what I 332 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: believe in, But for the sake of playing Devil's advocate, 333 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: I think that that could be an interesting way of 334 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: looking at it. And you could tell me if I'm wrong, 335 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: if that's the case, But I just think it's tough 336 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: right now to fully have an idea of what this 337 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: Cardinals team actually is right now because of what this 338 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: past year has been with all these injuries. 339 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Going back to one week ago in that press conference 340 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: with Michael Bidwell and Monty Austin Forts and there were 341 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: several times in which Mani brought up coaching player development. 342 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: That was something that Jag had already brought up as 343 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: far as, Okay, where do we need to get better 344 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: at in the offseason to get this on the right track, 345 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: and he brought up health and player development. Well, we 346 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: heard more player development talk out of Monnie Austin Fords. 347 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: So is it just a matter of getting We have 348 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: the pieces. The talent is here, We just need to 349 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: have the coaching to assist that talent to be where 350 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: we want it to be. 351 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: And I think when I think of what you're saying 352 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 4: about kind of doing the opposite, that seems more at 353 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: least to me, like the ideology of it, the culture shifting, 354 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: the things like that, Like I think that, like Michael, 355 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: like Michael Bidwell said, Jonathan Gannon made the team better, 356 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: and he said that the organizations in a better spot 357 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 4: than when it was when he came in in twenty 358 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 4: twenty three. I think we could all kind of be 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: in agreement with that, seeing how the roster has changed 360 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: over But it does go to when I think about 361 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: the change of direction that the coaching aspect of in 362 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: terms of the player development, I think is what's going 363 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: to be most important kind of going forward, because you 364 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: brought in a lot of players that were successful at 365 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: their previous stops, and then when they came over here, 366 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: the production didn't translate. I mean, Dalvin Tomlinson is a 367 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: dominant run stopper, and I know that that the stats 368 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: aren't always going to be a sexy when you are 369 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 4: that run stopper and you primarily are in that part 370 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: of your game. You're not necessarily a pass rusher. But 371 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: the just weren't there to what he was. And I 372 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 4: know that the coaching staff was still very complimentary of him, 373 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: and he filled his role and he did his assignments. 374 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: But you have to figure out a way I think 375 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: this coaching staff has done that did a good job, 376 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: but you need to find that coaching staff that could 377 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: take him to the next level and they could say, 378 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: all right, your stats were good in the past, now 379 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: we have to figure out a way to bring you 380 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: into the system here and take those stats to a 381 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: whole other level. Take that production and take it up 382 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 4: a notch. 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Perfect example, Marvin Harrison Junior has not been that top 384 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: five pick statistically, flip side third round selection. Michael Wilson 385 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: looks like a number one wide receiver very well, probably 386 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: could have been or playing like a top five draft pick. 387 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: So again, what is the coaching that elevated Michael Wilson? 388 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: Now? 389 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: How do you get that out of Marvin as well? 390 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: And I think the interesting thing because a reporter asked 391 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: Arthur Blank from the Falcons, the owner for the Falcons. 392 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: They asked him about what makes this job unique compared 393 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: to all the other jobs, Like why should a coach 394 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: want to come here? And that's something I might ask 395 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: the new head coach whenever they do come in here, 396 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: to ask him why this play is opposed to all 397 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: the other places. Because we've seen so far with the 398 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: list a lot of the names that the Cardinals will 399 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: request that as have many other teams and whoever the 400 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: Cardinals bring in. Obviously we're gonlearn a lot as the 401 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: time goes on. But what makes this job unique compared 402 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: to other jobs? Well, it's because you have a Marvin 403 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: Harrison junior the potential of a top five guy with 404 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: the work ethic of a guy that you know was 405 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: a third round selection that is playing like a top 406 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: five guy, with already an elite tight end who's probably 407 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: the best in the NFL, and with the achilles injury 408 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: to George Kittle, probably solidifies himself as the best tight 409 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: end in the NFL for next year as well. You 410 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: have a strong left tackle there in Paris Johnson Junior, 411 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: who said that his knees recovering and that he hopes 412 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 4: to be back and have his offseason program go on 413 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 4: as planned. You have a Pro Bowl caliber pass rusher 414 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: in Josh Sweat. You haven't all pro caliber safety and 415 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: Buddha bakerly there are. There are a ton of pieces here. 416 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: It's a matter of building that depth and also having 417 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: the player development from a lot of the other spots. 418 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 4: And I hope that whoever the next head coaches can 419 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: truly recognize what makes this job unique and is the 420 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: fact that not a lot of teams have a Trey 421 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: McBride or the potential of Marvin Harrison Junior or a 422 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. 423 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: The big question mark and the elephant in the room 424 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: is what do you do at quarterback, and of course 425 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: that's something that will be discussed and asked whomever that 426 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: new head coach is, and then my guess is we'll 427 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: still be discussing it once free agency is around the corner, 428 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: and certainly with the draft as well. 429 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: Can I give you some breaking news here? Absolutely breaking? 430 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: But are you at break after? Are you breaking news? 431 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Here? 432 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: On Cardinals cover, I mentioned that John Harbaugh interviewed with 433 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons per Adam Schefter with while the Falcons 434 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: announced an official interview with former Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, 435 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: he already has been conducting preliminary and extensive phone calls 436 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: with the Giants, Titans, Browns, Raiders, and the Arizona Cardinals. 437 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Say that first part again, so. 438 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: The obviously he interviewed already with the Atlanta Falcons. He 439 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: has been conducting preliminary and extensive phone calls with the Giants, Titans, Browns, Raiders, 440 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 4: and the Cardinals. He is trying to determine who to 441 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: meet with later this week and into next week before 442 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: making a decision, but he is fully expected to coach 443 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six per sources. 444 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: So preliminary phone calls, what does what does that mean? Well, 445 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but what I do know. 446 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 4: What I do know is the Cardinals are now linked 447 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: to John Harball in some way, shape or form. That 448 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: was something that I think a lot of the fan 449 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: base was seeing on social media. They're saying, why are 450 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: the Cardinals not And this kind of goes back to 451 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: my exact point of what I was saying earlier on 452 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: in Cardinals Cover two. You don't exactly know who the 453 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: Cardinals have or have not been reaching out to. Just 454 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 4: because a reporter hasn't tweeted out doesn't mean these phone 455 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: calls haven't been happening, because clearly Monty or whoever in 456 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: the Cardinals front office, whether it was Michael Bidwell, somebody 457 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: places to call John Harbell's direct So I'm not sure 458 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: what that means going forward. If that means that they're 459 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: going to have an official interview, or if this is 460 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: just hey, hey, we're interested in you, we'd love to 461 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: potentially talk with you. Let's see what actually ends up happening. 462 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: I do not know, but at least there's now officially 463 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: been a connection and a link to the Arizona Cardinals 464 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 4: per Adam Schafter. According to a report, according to a report, Yes. 465 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are one of eight different teams looking for 466 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: head coaches. As the other aspects of this search, not 467 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: only are their names out there, and you're also dealing 468 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: with the playoffs and who might be available at a 469 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: certain time and when you can actually speak to candidates 470 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: given their playoffs situation, but you're also now competing with 471 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: seven other teams looking for what you are, that leader 472 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: of men to get you to where you're not worried 473 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: about this in January and February. You're playing football in 474 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: January and February. 475 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and with a guy like John Harbaugh, that's been 476 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: the norm, is playing football in January. It's not something 477 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 4: that the Cardinals have unfortunately been used to in the 478 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: recent years, and that's something that Michael Biddle said has 479 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 4: been very frustrating it. But he does have belief that 480 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: they can turn around. He brought up how he was 481 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: able to with Cliff Kingsbury in recent years, how the 482 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: Cardinals were able to make a postseason appearance after a 483 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: coach kind of started and he took over. But look, 484 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: this is I think in some ways right now, so 485 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: many teams aren't limbo. They're not truly certain about what 486 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: to do. I don't think that this Cardinals roster kind 487 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: of going back to it is all that far off. 488 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 4: I just think it's going to be very interesting to 489 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: see how Mani asin Ford constructs the roster, taking into 490 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: account contract years and the recent slate of injuries that 491 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: this team has faced. 492 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: On the subjects of roster, I know you spent part 493 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: of your week last week with a handful of players 494 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: at the TPC Scottsdale media day for the upcoming waste 495 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: Management Phoenix Upen, Trey McBride, Budda Baker, Denzel Burke, Zavan Collins. 496 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I did not know Denzel Burke was 497 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: a golfer or a fan. Certainly know about Trey, Buddha 498 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: and Zavin, but to see Denzel on that list, and 499 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: you were telling us before we hit record that you 500 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: were asked and you politely declined to attempt a t shot. Yeah, 501 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: they asked me how my golf game is, and I 502 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: said not you were honest. Well, I wasn't gonna embarrass 503 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: myself just to seem cool. 504 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: I don't. 505 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: I don't fold to peer pressure. I can't do all that. Like, 506 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 4: what was I gonna do? Heyes, Avon Collins. Thanks for 507 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: giving me the club that is already half the size 508 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: of my body. And on top of that, it's not 509 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: even that I'm short, I'm not, but the club, I 510 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: just I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna embarrass myself, because 511 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: then how can I go up to anybody and try 512 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: to hold them accountable in the locker room when they 513 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: could say, you really want to talk to me about athletics. 514 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 4: Did you see how you swung that club? And I 515 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: would have said, you're right, next question please. So yes, 516 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: I was there at TPC Scott's. It was an event 517 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 4: to just kind of generate some excitement see how the 518 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: golf course is looking ahead of the annual Waste Management 519 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: Phoenix Open Tournament, which I'm sure will be a blast 520 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: for those that are going to be in attendance over there. 521 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: It's gonna be Super Bowl weekend, and they just invited 522 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: a lot of different people to be in attendance. Ryan Nelson, 523 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: a bunch of Kevin Ginkel from the Diamondbacks were out there. 524 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: Carli Lloyd and Olena Deladon Olympians were out there. So 525 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: it was it was pretty cool to see just how 526 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: many people were in attendance, and then of course our 527 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 4: our Arizona Cardinals were out there and they I asked 528 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 4: Zavian about it and he even though I saw it 529 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: for myself, but I needed to get on the record 530 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: about the golf game, and he said, we had a 531 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: fun time. 532 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: We hit the ball. We didn't always hit it straight. 533 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 4: But but we hit the ball and that's what that's 534 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: what matters. But I did talk with them for an 535 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 4: article on azycrdis dot com about the change at at 536 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: coach and uh Zavin said he was surprised by it. 537 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: I asked Trey McBride. He said that there was a 538 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: lot of emotions in the room. Jonathan Gannon. He did 539 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: confirm address the team and told him about it, and 540 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: he said, hey, this is a sign of adversity. You 541 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: guys are going to get through it. I'm going to 542 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 4: get through it collectively. We are all going to get 543 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: through it because a lot of these players are forever 544 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 4: going to be linked to Jonathan Gannon one. 545 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: Way or another. 546 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: But I asked Trey McBride, as one of the leaders 547 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: in the room, like how do you find the balance 548 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: between you know, you feel for the guy because you 549 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: love Jonathan Gannon, but you're also having that eagerness that 550 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: to say, like, Okay, it didn't work. Now we're going 551 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: to find a guy that can help make it work. 552 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: And he was saying, as a leader, it's on him 553 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: and a lot of the other guys to make sure 554 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: that the young players are following along. They're still doing 555 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: everything that they need to do during the offseason so 556 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 4: that whenever this new head coach does come in, they 557 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to just hit the ground running right 558 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: off the bat. 559 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: So he said, look, we feel for JG. We love JG. 560 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: This is a business now at the end of the day, 561 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: and they want to figure out a way just like Michael, 562 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: just like MANI, just like everybody in this building. They 563 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: want to figure out a way start getting back into 564 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: the win column. 565 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is why the change was made. Michael made 566 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: that very clear. Did not win enough games. And as 567 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: a player, you hear that. You there's that natural tendency 568 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: to feel a little guilty because you didn't do your job. 569 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this though, when you talk about the players 570 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: and doing their job, not exactly sure. Trey could have 571 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: done much better than what he did in twenty twenty 572 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: five and rewarded as such. We know he is a 573 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: pro bowler. He is now a first time All Pro. 574 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: In fact, he is a first time All Pro selection, 575 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: a near unanimous pick forty nine of fifty votes. And no, 576 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't Kyle Pitts, who received the other vote, who 577 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: finished second in the voting. George Kittle got the other votes. 578 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: He finished third overall. George Kittle, who. 579 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 4: Played eleven games, eleven games, seventy less receptions, four hundred 580 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 4: something less yards than Trey McBride. I don't know who 581 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 4: the voter is. I also don't want to know who 582 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: the voter is. However, I will I will say this. 583 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: We will have the Cardinals Awards coming out later. There 584 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: might be a similar situation. 585 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: Oh no, what a tease right there for the annual 586 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals Awards. Love that, Zach. I like that. 587 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: I learned from the best. 588 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: Stay tuned later on the week here on Cardinals Cover two. Well, 589 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: congratulations to Dre certainly will deserve the first Cardinals tied 590 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: end to be named First team All Pro. Last Cardinals 591 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: offensive player to be named All Pro was running back 592 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: David Johnson in twenty sixteen, also receiving votes All Pro 593 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: votes Budda Baker, who was a second team selection last season. 594 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: Matt Hawk got an All Pro votes talk about that 595 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: and Pawk was here for what sevex seven games good 596 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: for him? And Kalays Campbell got a first place vote 597 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: for Special Teams. Because the man can block kicks, field 598 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: goals and extra points. 599 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: He's a massive human being, I tweeted out at the 600 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: Fiesta bal Pat McAfee went up to him. He was 601 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: walking by the steps by the college game. They sat 602 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: with Ray Lewis and Michael Phelps. Because of course Colis 603 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: was that's the Miami Hurricane connection that they all seem 604 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: to have out there, and Pat McAfee walked up to 605 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: Colais and said, hey, enough of blocking them kicks, like you. 606 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: Got to stop it there. 607 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: Obviously, Pat being a kicker himself in a punter, he 608 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: definitely did not like seeing that. 609 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: But game respects game two. 610 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: Because he was able to see what Klayus is able 611 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: to do in year eighteen and if he comes back 612 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: for a year nineteen, he's still trying to climb up. 613 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: The record books. 614 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: He's only I want to say, three block kicks away 615 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: for our blocked field goals away from being the All 616 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: time leader in most block field goals, and I think 617 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: he stix away from being most blocked in all time 618 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: attempts because the pat that he blocked earlier this year 619 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: against the San Francisco forty nine ers, if I'm not mistaken, 620 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: was his first ever block PAT. 621 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I saw that note and I was like, well, okay, 622 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: so just all field goals, but pat is a little 623 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: bit more difficult because on a field goal, especially a 624 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: long field goal, the trajectory is a little bit lower 625 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: than Klais Campbell at six' eight six,' nine and a 626 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: wingspan of a condor can get whatever football is headed. 627 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: His way there was also another moment In That fiesta 628 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: bowl during. THE game i don't know when, it WAS 629 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: but i saw the video on social media while they on, 630 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: the scoreboard the split Screen with klayis on one Side 631 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: And walter nolan on the other Side the miami, Ole 632 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: misconnection and we missed that in the locker Room because 633 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: kalayis has got the. Bragging, rights well maybe, you Know 634 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: if klay's, Comes back. 635 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: Kalais, comes back and as long as walk comes back 636 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: healthy with whatever knee injury he seems to, be having 637 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: then in, That, case yeah you hope that they come 638 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: back and they get to have that bragging. Rights together, 639 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: BUT regardless i saw a Video of kalais just talking 640 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: about the excitement of Being Inside State farm stadium and 641 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: seeing the confetti, falling down something he hasn't experience and 642 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: quite a little bit, of time and it was cool 643 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: to see just how happy he was to kind of 644 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: be be in, that moment especially after what has been 645 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: a pretty. 646 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: Tough season yeah. 647 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Tough season cardinals left watching the playoffs before we get 648 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: into wild. Card weekends some other notes as far As 649 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: the cardinals assistants, are concerned we bid fund farewell to 650 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: defensive Line coach deebo who is Now At michigan state 651 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: doing the, same Job And, patrick tony defensive, backs coach 652 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: is Now The Ole miss code. Defensive coordinator so props 653 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: to those two for landing on. 654 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: Their feet congrats to, Both Guys and i'm sure there's 655 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot more that's going to be coming 656 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: out in the. Coming weeks you don't know who's going 657 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: to be retained on, the staff who's going to be, 658 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: let go the sort of changes are going to. Be 659 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: made whoever the new head COACH is I Mean drew 660 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: terrell had a couple of. Coordinator interviews Is he wolffork 661 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: also did as well With The Tampa. Bay Buccaneers So, 662 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: david blou A former cardinals now the new, offensive coordinator 663 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: replacing his former head Coach In cliff kingsbury as the 664 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator For The washington commander is by Kudos To 665 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: patrick tony pt and to uh To Coach debo winston 666 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: Di attibo air the third for getting. 667 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: THERE again. I tried. 668 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: I tried you didn't, say IT so i needed to 669 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: flex a. 670 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: Little bit very. 671 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: Well done now it's one thing to, say it and 672 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: it matters to you more than it matters. To me 673 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: can you? 674 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 4: Spell IT d E L A T t I B 675 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: O U D E r, e third. 676 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: The third said, The third very. WELL done. 677 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: I tried i might have, butchered THAT but i. 678 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: DON'T know i don't have it in front. Of me. 679 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: That's Okay spell check's, a crazy, crazy thing but. It's good. 680 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: IT works i mentioned it off. The top you kind 681 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: of open up the door when you bring up, You, 682 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Know philadelphia are? We okay based off the results Of wild? 683 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: CARD weekend i could care? Us okay then we'll just move. 684 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: Right, on, Yeah Look i'm. 685 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: I'm okay the Only Reason i'm i'm GENUINELY LIKE i 686 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 4: i could. 687 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: Care us the Only reason i'm not okay with your 688 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: team or the team that you grew up, rooting for 689 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: is because the forty nine ers are. Moving on and 690 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: that's the only negative with. 691 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: That ASPECT did I did i Want The philadelphia eagles? 692 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: To win OF course. 693 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: I did as MUCH as i wanted it for my, 694 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: CHILDHOOD team i wanted it for my family that still 695 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: lives in that city and now has to be consumed 696 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: by all that media that's going to be out there, 697 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: right now because, trust me it is not fun to 698 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: always listen. To it number one and, NUMBER two i 699 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: wanted them to whoop the forty nine ers and send 700 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: them HOME because i am so tired of seeing how 701 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: they've been able to persevere through these injuries and still 702 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: somehow find. A way and because of whatever bias the, 703 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: world has That's why trey McBride is not a unanimous 704 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: first Team. 705 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: All PRO so i get very frustrated. 706 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: About it but if you're asking me personally, MY football 707 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: i don't want to say Fandom because i'm still a FAN. 708 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: But, I could i could. Care less let ME ask 709 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: i care for. 710 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 4: The storylines there's a lot of good story lines that 711 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: are gonna be coming, from this and that's what matters. 712 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: To me let me ask you THIS because i fall 713 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: in one. Particular category but how do we feel bird 714 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: gang as a group When the seahawks, they're waiting did 715 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: not play? This weekend but you're seeing your, other teammates 716 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: if you will within, the division your, other neighbors if 717 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: you will continue to advance into. The postseason is it 718 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: good That the rams Beat? The panthers is it good 719 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: that the Forty nine ers Beat? The eagles is it 720 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: good That the seahawks will now host the divisional Game? 721 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: On saturday or much, like me would you have Preferred 722 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: the panthers, to Win the eagles, to win and Whomever the? 723 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: Seahawks play OR now i can't root for that Game 724 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: on saturday because it's Forty nine Ers, and seahawks which is. 725 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Not GOOD but i don't want to SEE The nfc west. 726 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 4: Do well my, Honest opinion i'm rooting For the bears 727 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: through if I'M and i use the term, rooting loosely 728 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: BUT because i Want the cardinals to get the best 729 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 4: head coach. Out there and if there's belief that the 730 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 4: best head coach is one of the assistants on one 731 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: of THE Three nfc, WEST teams i went them out 732 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 4: of the playoffs as soon as possible so That the 733 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: cardinals can interview that individual and they could try to 734 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 4: figure out whatever comes. 735 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: Of IT but. 736 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 4: I don't i don't. Root anymore it's kind. OF weird 737 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: I just i just enjoy, a good good, football game 738 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: and THAT'S what i really. 739 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: Care about there's not a part of you like during 740 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: the course of a game that. You're watching it doesn't 741 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: have to be this, past weekend but anything like rooting 742 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: interest OR hey i would prefer this team or that. 743 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: Particular player i'm a human, being there but it's not 744 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: to be emotionally. Invested IN and I think i think 745 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: that's a good way to. 746 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: Differentiate it LIKE when i talk about like not caring 747 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: About the eagles or anything, Like THAT like i care 748 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 4: about a, good storyline a, good game and obviously there's 749 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: always going to be some and For as i've worked 750 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: in this league now for what three seasons you've worked 751 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: in the league, even longer you have connections to a 752 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 4: lot of guys on a lot of, different teams and 753 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: at that point it starts to become a little bit 754 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: less about the actual logos and more about the people 755 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: that are. Out there and that's kind OF how i 756 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 4: FEEL when i look At, THE eagles i think about 757 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 4: my mentors that are getting to that now have to 758 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 4: join the couch and be where we are, right now 759 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: and that's not necessarily what they where they want. To 760 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 4: be the ONLY teams i want to be on the 761 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: couch are the three teams in, our division because there's 762 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: one team that you have to root for in, this. 763 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: Division and It's The. Arizona cardinals and. 764 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: That's it here's where it could be good For. The 765 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: cardinals when you See, The seahawks rams and forty nine 766 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: ers do, so well. It's, twofold one it shows you 767 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: where you need, to be and, then two it's a great. 768 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Measuring stick how do you measure up not on a piece, 769 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: of paper but when you step foot on the field 770 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: with the number one seed or the Team In los 771 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: angeles and the team In The. Bay area are you? 772 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Good enough and if, you're not what do you need 773 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: to do to get on? That level because, right now 774 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: that's Where the cardinals are looking up at the rest of. 775 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 4: The division and that IS why, i THINK and i mentioned, 776 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: THIS earlier i could see a little Bit this cardinals 777 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 4: team what it can be In The chicago bears in 778 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 4: terms of a new head coach, coming in not necessarily 779 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 4: a new ideology around, the team not necessarily a, new culture, 780 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 4: you know shock, per se but just the ability to 781 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: be that. Player DEVELOPMENT and i think you could start 782 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 4: to see that a. Little bit this is what you 783 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: WANT The nfc west to. Look like three really strong teams, 784 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: right now and the forty, nine Ers, the rams And, 785 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 4: the seahawks and what the future could look like if 786 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 4: you hire the right head coach and you figure out 787 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: what you need to do at the other different positions 788 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 4: with big, key playmakers because it could be as competitive 789 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 4: as the playoffs. 790 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: Are right now within your. 791 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 4: Own division every game could be like a, playoff game 792 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: Starting from week one all the Way through week eighteen 793 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 4: into the actual playoffs If the cardinals do find that. 794 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 4: Right guy and this could be kind of a little 795 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: bit of a preview of That five but. 796 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: Does that analogy make sense or does it make sense? 797 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: To me all it. 798 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: Matters if it makes sense. To you as you say it. 799 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: Out loud if it makes sense, to you then it. 800 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: Makes sense doesn't make sense, to, you though do you 801 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Understand what? I'm, saying okay, good hew be cause it 802 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: seems like such a. 803 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: Good analogy in. 804 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 4: MY head i just need to make sure someone else 805 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 4: thought it was at, least understandable whether they agree with it. 806 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 4: OR not i don't think five of the six games 807 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: On wild card weekend four games decided by fewer than. 808 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: Five points twelve fourth quarter, lead changes the most ever 809 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 4: in a single round and in a. SINGLE postseason i 810 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 4: bring this up because it's what we always talk about 811 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 4: during the, regular season is games come down to one 812 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 4: possession and there's a handful of plays that will dictate 813 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 4: whether you win or. You lose and it always comes 814 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 4: back to, the details which can be coach speak. At 815 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: times yet when you watch games, from afar meaning teams 816 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 4: that are in, the playoffs you see why the. Details 817 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: matter are you? Making mistakes can you overcome? Those mistakes 818 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: do you make too? Many mistakes and then what it 819 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 4: always boils down to is the line. 820 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: Of scrimmage are you? Holding up are you? Pass protecting 821 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: can you get after? The quarterback the only quote unquote 822 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: Blowout WAS sunday, nye football on Which the patriots could 823 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: do no wrong as far as Getting After justin herbert's 824 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: and shutting Down that. Chargers offense that there was a 825 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: lot of expectation going into this season Because It's justin 826 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: herbert has not won a postseason game yet and seemed 827 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: to have. The talent but Against that patriots defense that 828 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: did spend money in, the offseason just basically Locked the. 829 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 4: Chargers down put a lot of Money Into millon williams 830 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 4: and he might have had a, quiet season but when 831 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 4: the lights, were bright he delivered and he got that 832 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: big sack, that ultimately, you know helped secure and seal 833 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: the victory For The New. England patriots and he ran 834 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: over to the sideline and Busted Up mike rabele's lip 835 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: in celebration. With him but it's what happens when you 836 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: invest in certain positions where you need a, game changer 837 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: and that's What the patriots were able to get. OVER 838 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: there i think the common theme of What this cardinals 839 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 4: team is just twenty twenty five team has come to 840 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 4: realize games aren't one, at halftime they're not one in the. 841 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: Third quarter they're one in the, fourth quarter and for 842 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: so many of, these games it might have felt and 843 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 4: seemed like it got a little bit boring up. Until 844 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: halftime Even Even stefan diggs was talking about as they 845 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 4: asked him about the Crowd At jillette stadium For, the patriots, 846 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: he said, YOU know i thought they were getting a 847 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 4: little bit sleepy, at times but then at the end of, 848 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 4: the game they started to wake up a little bit 849 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 4: when we needed. The MOST and i think that's kind 850 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 4: of what we've been able to see so far throughout, 851 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 4: the postseason is that the games might have, started slow 852 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 4: they haven't been as exciting right off, the bat but 853 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: once you get to the, fourth quarter it's which team 854 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: doesn't shoot themselves in. The Foot The philadelphia eagles had 855 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 4: a lot of self, Inflicted Penalties The Los angeles chargers, 856 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 4: had Penalties the bills Or The, jacksonville jaguars there's a 857 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: lot of different situations that have happened those self. Inflicted 858 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: wounds you need the team that's going to be, mentally trained, 859 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 4: mentally disciplined, mentally strong that is ultimately going to be 860 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: able to get the. Job done and so far the 861 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 4: postseason is not Disappointed and i'm interested to see, what 862 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 4: this to put a bow, on it to see What 863 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: This Pittsburgh Steelers houston texans game is going to. Be 864 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 4: Like on, monday night. 865 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: There were four game winning touchdowns scored in the final. 866 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: Three Minutes four there were, five games with a sixth to. 867 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: Come tonight it's going to. Be exciting that's why people 868 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: love to, watch sports and Specifically The National, football league 869 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: because even though on paper you might have the, better 870 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: team how do you execute when it matters, the most 871 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily in the first quarter or, first half but down. 872 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: This stretch how do you finish? The game and we 873 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: talk about that. A lot how do? You finish And 874 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: the cardinals more times not didn't finish, well enough and 875 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: that's why they're watching and we are watching. 876 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: As well and you just have, to hope whoever. 877 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: It is you're not always going to win the one, 878 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 4: score games but you need to win more one score 879 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: games than not because they all start to they all 880 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 4: start to. Add up it's one of those things where 881 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: before the regular season begins, next year there will be 882 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 4: a graphic that's going to be posted and it's going 883 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 4: to Show the cardinals record in one score games that 884 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: if the roles were reversed If the cardinals won all 885 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 4: the one score games versus the ones that, they Lost 886 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: and i'm pretty. 887 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: Sure if they, did that they would be. 888 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 4: The postseason so it's a tough pill, to swallow but 889 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 4: it's also something you look forward into. The future, You, 890 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: say okay you're you're not that, Far. 891 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: Off zach you teased. It earlier but we have The 892 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: Annual cardinals awards to be posted, this week and as 893 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: we have done now two, different times three, different times two, 894 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: different times, at least we will bring you back for 895 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: a second time this week a Bonus With zach gershman 896 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: Here on cardinals. Cover two join Myself and danny surrec 897 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: to kind of go over what we selected the, true 898 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: winners and then what you will tell us who actually. 899 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: Did, WIN yeah i will tell. 900 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: You this your answers are more similar to mine than 901 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 4: they Are. 902 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: To, danny okay so it'll be it'll. Be exciting that 903 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: doesn't mean we we. 904 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: Won anything it's always a, good debate and there will. 905 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: Be debates we can make sure that let people know 906 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: that if you didn't agree with, certain choices. 907 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: They're wrong. 908 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: You're wrong it's as simple. AS that, i mean everyone 909 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: can have. An opinion you just might have the, wrong opinion. 910 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 4: That's All and i'm not if you're listening this Late 911 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 4: Into cardinals, cover two good on you and we respect 912 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 4: you and we appreciate. 913 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: Very much we will also say this. 914 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: Just for our. 915 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 4: Own fun, every year the category is at the same 916 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 4: it's the most, valuable player the, offensive player the, defensive 917 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 4: player the newcomer that beyond the box scortes or that 918 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: player that might not necessarily pop up on the stat 919 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: sheet in, their impact and then the play of the 920 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: game or the play of. The year so if anybody does, 921 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 4: you know feel strongly reach out to us on social 922 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 4: media and let us know who your vote, would Be 923 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: because wednesday will debate it all. 924 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: Sounds good good tease ahead Here On cardinals. Cover two 925 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: Gotta let. Zach go he's got to actually fill in 926 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: the details and actually put pen to paper or at 927 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: least keyboard to computer and feel all that stuff out 928 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: For crazy Cardinals. 929 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: Dot com need one, more person send it in. 930 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: And we'll leave that anonymous for. Right now on, that 931 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: notes we will put a lid on this Edition Of 932 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: cardinals cover two Presented, by hundai partner Of The Arizona 933 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: cardinals as always special thanks to our executive Producer Jim, 934 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: on mohundra our Associate Producer cody Fincher For, Zach Kershman 935 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm Craig. Real lou we'll talk to you next time 936 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: Here On cardinals cover two