1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: On this episode of news World, I'm joined by members 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: of my Inner Circle Club for a fascinating conversation about 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: a wide range of issues and topics on their minds. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: We hold these regular video conference calls so that we 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: can have an honest discussion about what is happening in 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: America today. I find it extraordinarily helpful to me personally 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: and helping think through the issues that are facing us. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: So I hope you'll find this episode of Newts World informative. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to become a member of my 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: Inner Circle Club, please go to newts Inner Circle dot 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: com and sign up for a one or two year 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: membership today. Let me first say thank you for being 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: a member of the Inner Circle. This is a group 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: that I really like to interact with, to report to, 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: to answer questions, and to get a sense of your thinking. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you spending some time with us. We 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: learned that Mikhail Gorbachoff passed away at ninety one years 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: of age. Gormachoff was a very interesting person. He was 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the rising young star of the Soviet system when they'd 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: had a series of people who, as Ronald Reagan once said, 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: he never got around a meeting with him because they 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: kept dying. It really was a gerontocracy. Started with Breshnev, 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: who had replaced Krushchoff, and then went to Andropoff, who 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: had been the head of the KGB, and to Turnyenko. 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: The three of them all were older. They were very hardline. Frankly, 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: although Nixon had been able to work some with Breshnev 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, I think Reagan felt that there 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: was no real flexibility, so he just didn't even try. 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: During the period that those two were there, Gorvischoff was 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: coming along as one of three rising young leaders, and interestingly, 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: in Henry Kissinger's new book on Leadership, he talks about 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the fact that Margaret Thatcher had an intuition that Gorbachev 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: might be a leader of the future who would be 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: more practical, more modern, and they could talk with. Because 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: he was not yet the leader of the Soviet Union, 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't invite him directly by himself, so they set 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: up a parliamentary leadership group because he was the head 38 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: of the parliamentary part of the Soviet system. So he 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: came over to London on a parliamentary visit and ended 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: up spending a good bit of time with Margaret Thatcher, 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: and she called Reagan and said, you know, I think 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: we can work with this guy. The result was that 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: they did begin to talk with him. He was much 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: more modern, much more flexible, but in the end, to 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: be fair, he really was trying to reform the system 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: in order to sustain communism. He was not anti communist. 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: This was a mistake by many people in the West. 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Gorbachev was a true communist, but he thought that the 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: system had grown corrupt and bureaucratic and incompetent. The problem 50 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: ahead was that every step you took to try to 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: fix it made it worse. So he realized the system 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: had grown very corrupt, an amazing amount of work was 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: done through bribery, and the system was literally breaking down. 54 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: We think we have logistics problems. There used to be 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: a joke of the Russian the Soviet worker who went 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: in to buy a new car and the car dealer said, well, 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: we could deliver it on Wednesday morning, two years from now, 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and he said, no, no, that's when the plumber is coming. 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Could you do it in the afternoon, And they said, 60 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: this genuine breakdown of the whole system. Reagan used to 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: tell the joke about the person who went out to 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: buy beef. They stood in line for an hour and 63 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: a half. They got to the front of the line 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: and the clerk said, oh, I'm so sorry, we just 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: ran out of beef. But I think down the street 66 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: they still have chicken. So I went down the streets, 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: stood in line, finally got to the front. Oh, we 68 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: just rant at a chicken butt. I think they have 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: fished down the street. So he goes down and gets 70 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: in the line a third time. By now he's grumbling. 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Now this is under Gorbachaf's idea of glass nosed or openness, 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: And he's complaining, and the man behind him taps him 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: on his shoulder and says, comrade, you are very lucky. 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: If Brushniov was still in charge, he would be shot 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: for treason. But because Comrade gorbache office for openness, you're 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: allowed to complain. According to Reagan, the guy goes home, 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: his wife says, so, how is it. He said, it's 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: worse than ever. They're out of bullets. You had this 79 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: whole sense of a system just breaking down for gorbache Off. 80 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: The crisis actually was the meltdown at Chernobyl of the 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: nuclear reactor because he discovered the system was so corrupt 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: and so used to lying that the only sources of 83 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: information they were accurate about an enormous human disaster in 84 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Ukraine were the Norwegian and Swedish television systems that they 85 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: actually knew what was going on. He could get honest 86 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: information out of them, he could not get it from 87 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the Soviet system. So he did all he could to 88 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: change things. Finally, there was a serious effort to replace 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: him with a coup. We intervened very strongly on his side, 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: and he survived briefly, but ultimately the Soviet Union just 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: literally collapsed, and in December of nineteen ninety one it 92 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: disappeared from history. What later on the Current of Russia 93 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: would call the greatest disaster of the twentieth century was 94 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the collapse the Civil Union. So from nineteen ninety one 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: to today, Goobachoff has basically written memoirs, given speeches, taught 96 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: at colleges. He was a man who I think tried 97 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: very hard. I think he was very serious about trying 98 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: to modify and modernize the system, and it was just impossible. 99 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: It was too big a problem. Also, we're going through 100 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: discuss about the anniversary of the American collapse in Afghanistan, 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: and that's what it was, was a collapse. The Biden 102 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: administration was so totally incompetent that what could have been 103 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: an orderly, routine process became a nightmare, with people falling 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: off of airplanes, with huge crowds around the airport, and 105 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: with a real loss of control almost overnight to the Taliban. 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: We've done two very very interesting podcasts, one about an 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Afghan interpreter and the American who worked with him and 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: helped him get out. The other about an entire project 109 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of getting pro American Afghans out of Afghanistan before they're killed. 110 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I found it infuriating. Here is a Biden administration that 111 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: has left two to three million people come in illegally, 112 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and they are deliberately slow walking the people from Afghanistan 113 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: who risked their lives fighting as our allies. So if 114 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: you were a pro American Afghan, you may not be 115 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: able to get a card to come in the US. 116 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: But if you just want to go through Mexico, you 117 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: just sneak across the border and Biden will be happy 118 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: to give you a cell phone, put you on a 119 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: plane or a bus or a train, and send you 120 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: somewhere in America. It makes you wonder, just what are 121 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: the core values of the Biden administration. I would say, also, 122 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: one last thing, and then we'll take questions. We're going 123 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: through in August, where the Democrats seem to be having 124 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: a slightly better time of it. I am personally not 125 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: very worried. Every August of an election year, the news 126 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: media goes overboard to indicate that the Republicans can't win. 127 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: And if you I'm back and look for example at 128 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Reagan in nineteen eighty in August he was behind. He 129 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: of course beat Jimmy Carter by the largest electoral College 130 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: vote against an incoming president in American history. If you 131 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: looked in August of twenty sixteen, you would have seen 132 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: that Trump was going to lose to Clinton. Didn't happen 133 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four when we had the contract with America, 134 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Nobody in August thought we'd have a majority, and of 135 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: course we did so. I do think that the Republicans 136 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: have to focus on a couple of big things. They 137 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: have to focus on inflation. They have to focus on 138 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: the price of food, which is going to go up. 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're about to have a huge 140 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: crisis on the price of electricity, because natural gas is 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: a major source of electricity, and the fact is that 142 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: there are I think twenty million families that currently are 143 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: behind and paying for their electric bills, and the prices 144 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: are going to keep going up, So you could have 145 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: a huge catastrophe this fall, both in food prices, which 146 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: are going to go up because of drought, because of 147 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, because of the price of natural 148 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: gas translates directly into the price of fertilizer, and that 149 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: translates directly to the price of food. So you're going 150 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: to have rising food prices my hunches. By September. You're 151 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: going to see gasoline prices starting back up again, and 152 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a real crisis and 153 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: electricity prices. I mean, electricity is central to civilization. You 154 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: can't cut off twenty million families, and the number is 155 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: going to go up as the price goes up. Electricity 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: is already up fifteen percent over last year, and a 157 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: lot of people, given all the other expenses they're faced with, 158 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: they just can't afford it. So I think Republicans ought 159 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: to emphasize inflation. They should emphasize their commitment to allowing 160 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: parents to know what's going on in their children's schools. 161 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: They should emphasize control of the border, and they should 162 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: emphasize bringing crime under control. And virtually every major city 163 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: you've had an amazing rise in the number of people 164 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: who are being killed, and I think people really want 165 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: a party dedicated to creating safety once again, which it 166 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: can only be the Republican Party given the Democrats situation. 167 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: I also think in every single race in the country, 168 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: Republicans should tie Biden to the race. So it should 169 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: be the Biden Warnut ticket in Georgia, the Biden Kelly 170 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: ticket in Arizona, the Biden Fetterman ticket in Pennsylvania. By 171 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: the way, I don't know if you've seen the brief 172 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: clip of Biden in Pennsylvania endorsing the attorney general for 173 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: the state US Senate and endorsing the lieutenant governor for 174 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: the governorship, when in fact, of course, it's the lieutenant 175 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: governor who's running for the state US Senate and it 176 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: is the attorney general who's running for governor. She only 177 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: got him totally backwards. It's about a nineteen second clip. 178 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: It's on YouTube, and it's just a further reminder that 179 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Biden is not always totally on top of his game 180 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: or even sure what game he's in. So that's sort 181 00:10:46,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of a sweeping initial overview. And why don't we toss 182 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: it open for questions? All right? This is Thomas. I'm 183 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: from Melvine, Pennsylvania, eating a question for the historian. It's 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: about the currently inhuman porous border at the south of 185 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: the United States. And we all know everyone's being brutalized 186 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: in just horrible conditions. And when they come into this country, 187 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: they're basically unemployable because federally they're not how to be unemployed. 188 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: They're destitute, many are in ill health, etc. Etc. And 189 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: what's the end state because we're going to wind up 190 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: between four and six million folks who came across the border, 191 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: And are we creating a permanent under pless And what 192 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: do you do with that permanent underclass? Send them home, 193 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: persecute them, etc. This is a formula for fascism, and 194 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I would like you, as the historian, to comment on 195 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: what do you do. I think that one, if they 196 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: have any kind of a criminal record, you send them home, period, 197 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: it's not negotiable. Two, I think it's very important to 198 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: get people into earning a living. I did a study 199 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: back in the early nineteen eighties when I was in Congress. 200 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Vietnamese refugees who came to the US and avoided the 201 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: welfare state went to work, created a business, sometimes had 202 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: to work very hard. They all rose, they were all successful. 203 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: Vietnamese refugees who got here and were absorbed by Lyndon 204 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Johnson's Great Society into the welfare state were taught dependency, 205 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: and they didn't do nearly as well. And I think 206 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: we've got to really think carefully about how we are 207 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: going to find a way one to require people learning 208 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: English and two to require them to go to work. 209 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: And you do not want to create a huge dependency 210 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: class that sits around all day. Because once you decide 211 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: as a dependent that we're going to give you money, 212 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: the upper limits is inevitable. I mean, you want more 213 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: and then more, because after all, you must be deserving 214 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: it or they wouldn't give it to you. So creating 215 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: a dependent class is very dangerous. You're exactly right, and 216 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: I think that it is the sort of thing we 217 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 1: should be aware of. I assume that the left deliberately 218 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: once open borders. I mean a lot of them say 219 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: it publicly that they're against the idea of a border, 220 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think they've ever thought through. Gallop Wants 221 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: did a world survey and concluded that there were least 222 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five million people who would come 223 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: to the US if they could, because this is seen 224 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: as the promised Land, as a place where you have 225 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: great opportunities. Well, we would have no potential to absorb 226 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five million people without breaking down 227 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: the whole fabric of American society. So I think this 228 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: is a deliberate effort on the part of the left 229 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: to basically create a dependency class that's going to want 230 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: more help from the government, more money, more things like 231 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Biden's ten thousand dollars loan payoff. I mean, if you 232 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: look at this administration, they want to find a way 233 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: to bribe virtually everybody if they can, and I think 234 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: this is part of that same psychology. The name is 235 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Charles Kilmer. I'm from Leesburg, Virginia. I have two questions. 236 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Barry Seed, a Chicago based electronic local billionaire, recently said 237 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: he would contribute one point six billion to the twenty 238 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: twenty two elections. How could that money be used to 239 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: best promote a free and fair election, And then the 240 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: second part would be why is not currently the Republican 241 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: adapting at nineteen ninety fourth style election campaign where all 242 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: the candidates carry the same message. I think, in fact, 243 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: you'll find in September that Kevin McCarthy's commitment to America 244 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: is adopted by virtually everybody running for the House and 245 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: by most Senate candidates, and in some ways it will 246 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: resemble what we did in nineteen ninety four, the Contract 247 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: with America. So that part pretty straightforward. On your first question, 248 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I frankly don't know. I'm not sure how you would 249 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: spend that kind of money to get an a fair 250 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and honest election. I thought the way that Zuckerberg spent 251 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifteen million dollars maximizing turnout essentially only 252 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: in democratic neighborhoods was clearly a fundamental violation of our 253 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: whole election process, and I think taints the whole twenty 254 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: twenty election. With a clear sense between that and the 255 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: things the FBI did and the things that the big 256 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: social media companies did, that that election was rigged. I'm 257 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: not prepared to say it was stolen but I am 258 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: prepared to say the election was clearly rigged. Yes, dude. 259 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: My question is why hasn't Mitch McConnell come out with 260 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: a contract with America's ingrid style for the November election. 261 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: He seems just on the sidelines. I think McConnell doesn't 262 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: believe in big ideas. I think he believes in a 263 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: politics of raising a lot of money and running negative 264 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: ads against your opponents. And I think big ideas sort 265 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: of scaring you know it limits you. When we ran 266 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: in ninety four and we ran on welfare reform and 267 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: balancing the budget, cutting the capital gains tax, we actually 268 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: had committed ourselves to something. I think Kevin McCarthy intends 269 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: to do the same. And I have a hunch that 270 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: most of the Senate candidates are going to end up 271 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: endorsing McCarthy's commitment to America. But for some reason, Mitch 272 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: McConnell doesn't believe in having big ideas. This is a 273 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: very old Republican weakness, frankly, because I think people want 274 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: to know what do you stand for? Is your word good, 275 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: are you really going to do it? Etc? And I 276 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: think when you just run a purely negative campaign, I 277 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: think you actually weaken yourself and you certainly weaken the 278 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: process of self government. We have the right to know 279 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: from our elected officials what they're going to do before 280 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: we elect them. Well, thank you very much, and thank 281 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you for this venue again. I look forward to it. 282 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Note that Antifa is armed in standing guard at Texas 283 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: drag show with children present. And are we facing potentially 284 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: armed Antifa while at the polling places for the midterms, 285 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: Well you could be. And I don't quite understand how 286 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: they get away with it. But if you look at 287 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: the nightly riots in Portland, Oregon for over a year 288 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: by Antifa, it's clearly a violent organization. It's clearly an 289 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: organization dedicated to replacing the American system, and it's clearly 290 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: an organization that very comfortably engages in violence. I frankly 291 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: don't understand how it can exist and why under the 292 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: Rico statutes it is not being prosecuted by the FBI, 293 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: and why people who are organizing this kind of violence 294 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: aren't being locked up. I think it's just one more 295 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: example of how the left has politicized things in a 296 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: way which I think is destructive of the American system. 297 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I appreciate it wouldn't real quick 298 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: one was there not a cap on the amount that 299 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: any individual could donate or any corporation donate. What happened 300 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: to that? It's really a stupid system because if you 301 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: donate to the candidate, you're limited to I think fifty 302 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars. If you donate to an independent political 303 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: action committee, you can give anything you want to, which 304 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: of course makes politics more negative, more irresponsible, more dominated 305 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: by big money. And what Zuckerberg did, the founder of Facebook, 306 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: which was very clever, I mean totally un American and 307 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: destructive of our system, but very clever, was he figured 308 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: out he could create a foundation and effect, and the 309 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: foundation could go out and register people and encourage them 310 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: to vote. And as long as they didn't actually campaign 311 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: for particular persons. They didn't say we're going to campaign 312 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: for Biden. What they did was they said, we know 313 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: these are precincts that are going to be seventy eighty 314 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: or ninety percent for Biden, so we're going to focus 315 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: on maximizing turnout. And they did a very good job. 316 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Citizens United did a movie about it. Denish to SUSA 317 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: did a movie about it. It was an amazing effort 318 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: to warp the system, and we've seen people like Mayor 319 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg who put one hundred million dollars in to run ads, 320 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: And you have this strange pattern where under free speech 321 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: you can go out and run ads all you want to. 322 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Under the campaign law, once you're a candidate, you're limited 323 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: by the federal campaign limits. So we actually weakened the 324 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: ability of candidates to raise the money to finance their 325 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: own campaign while strengthening the ability of independent packs and 326 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: independent organizations to try to influence and shape the whole 327 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: campaign in a way which I think is very detrimental 328 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: to responsible self government. I'm calling from Fairfax, Virginia News, 329 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not quite sure what the difference is between 330 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: rigging an election and stealing it. Could you enlighten me 331 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: a little bit? Sure? Rigging election means that, for example, 332 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: you cut off the New York Post and will not 333 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: allow it to circulate widely, even though it's the fourth 334 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: largest newspaper United States and the oldest, So the information 335 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: about Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't reach as many people as 336 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: it would have. That sets up, I think a rigged 337 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: election where you're deliberately favoring one side by cutting off information. 338 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: A stolen election would be going in and actually stealing ballots, 339 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: either by stuffing the ballot box with false ballots or 340 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: by literally taking ballots out of the ballot box. So 341 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: they're very different experiences. I have no doubt that the 342 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: national establishment, the deep state, the hard left, all of 343 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: them came together and did everything they could in twenty 344 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: twenty to make sure that Trump would face a huge 345 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: uphill fight, and in that sense, I think they did 346 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: rig the election, Thank you very much. I'm from New 347 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: York City. Two questions. One is that in Pennsylvania, which 348 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: is where I was born, I read that the voter 349 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: registration now includes a box for mail in voting, So 350 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: it confuses the process of registering. And is that going 351 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: to lead to some kind of cheating in the election 352 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: with all this confusion, because it's going to make them 353 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: hard to register people legally because you have to do 354 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: it by steps. First the register, then you sign up 355 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: for mail in voting, So they're going to do something 356 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: with that. The second question is why are they giving 357 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: IDs to illegals and is this going to somehow be 358 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: tied to allowing to register them to vote on the 359 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: Erstwin to hold me this because I've not looked in detail, 360 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: but I think under Pennsylvania law you do have to register. 361 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: You can ask for an absentee ballot, but you have 362 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: to be a registered voter. I think secondly, I'm against 363 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: giving the kind of ID cards that would allow you 364 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: to vote. I was deeply opposed to New York City, 365 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: which actually had passed a provision which was repealed, allowing 366 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: people who are illegal immigrants and not citizens to vote. 367 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: But again, it's part of this whole process. The left 368 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: believes they can only win if they can bribe enough people, 369 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: and they can only bribe enough people if they have 370 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: a big enough dependency class. Right, But why are they 371 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: giving ID cards to people entering the country illegals. They're 372 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: giving some kind of decart what are they going to 373 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: do with them? Look, the Biden administration and the left 374 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: in general would like to integrate every possible illegal into 375 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: the system as rapidly as they could, and would like 376 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: to encourage more people to come illegally. And you can 377 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: tell that's true by just watching the border. I mean, 378 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump had actually gotten the migration down to forty six 379 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: thousand a month, and it was shrinking, it was going 380 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: to keep coming down. By contrast, they now have ten 381 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: times that many people coming in a single month, and 382 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: I think it's because they wanted it. This is not incompetence. 383 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: This is a deliberate policy to maximize the number of 384 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: people who come here illegally. This is Matthew Pole from 385 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Believe to California, And my question is do you feel 386 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: that the voting machines were programmed to change votes? I 387 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: don't think there's any conclusive evidence that the machines themselves 388 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: were a problem. I know people have said that, but 389 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: to the best of my knowledge, none of the forensic 390 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: efforts that went out in check found that to be true. Okay, 391 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: thanks for spear Nude. Our final question was written in 392 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: by Maria from Utah. Maria would like to know I 393 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: feel like Ukraine has fallen out of the news cycle. 394 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: What do you think the outcome of the Russian war 395 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: on Ukraine will be? Well, if it continues at its 396 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: current pace, will know better in about thirty to forty 397 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: five days, because I think the Ukrainian Army actually has 398 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: put together a counter offensive around Kharkoff if that happens, 399 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: and they've also cut off an entire Russian army group 400 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: which had crossed a river and using drones they had 401 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: destroyed the two bridges, which a mile wide river. It's 402 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: a big river, and so it's conceivable that you could 403 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: see an entire Russian army group surrendering at some point. 404 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: The fear then is that Putin might actually go to 405 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: tactical nuclear weapons just out of desperation. But I think 406 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: it's very possible that Ukraine is in fact going to 407 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: start driving back Russia. They clearly are penetrating in Crimea 408 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: in a way that I didn't think they could. They 409 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: clearly have been chewing up the Russian ammunition supplies and 410 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: the Russian commanding control systems. The delivery of a variety 411 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: of advanced weapons from the United States and other NATO 412 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: countries is in fact having a big impact, and I 413 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: think that that'll continue. So I think we're somewhere between 414 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: a stalemate and a Russian defeat at the rate things 415 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: they're going right now, let me eat this close and say, 416 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: I hope all of you will make sure that everyone 417 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: you know goes out to vote this fall. This is 418 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: one of the most important elections of our lifetime. If 419 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: we in fact get everybody to turn out, and we 420 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: win in the House and Senate. We're going to be able, 421 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: I think, to start really turning things around. If we 422 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: were to lose, I think that it would be a nightmare, 423 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and I think we'd be shocked how far the left 424 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: the country would go by two twenty four. So I 425 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: hope you'll make sure all your friends are registered. You'll 426 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: make sure they vote. This is the big, big deal 427 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing you when we have 428 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: our next Inner Circle conference. Thank you for listening, and 429 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: thank you to members of my Inner Circle Club. 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