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If you are a new just 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: download the FanDuel Sports Book app to get started now 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: sign up with promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: sent you. What is going on, everybody, John Middelkoff, Go 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Lo Pod, Go Lo Pod. What a day to be 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: recording the Golf podcast. We have Phil, we got DJ, 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: we gotta Live. We got team names, which I actually 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: think are kind of funny. Uh, you know it's crazy 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: the Live is dominated today. Well, let's let's call a 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: spade a spade. They they won simple fact that like 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: this kind of worked in the sense of they got 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: to own the week going up against the RBC, and 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we're obviously gonna dive all into that. I'm wearing my 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods hat and solidarity with my man Eldrick Tiger Woods, 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: who is not playing in the US Open. And it 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: doesn't it feels like it's an afterthought now. In fairness, 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: I think after the way the the PGA Championship, he 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: was really struggling a Withdrew. I think we all assumed 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that he was not gonna play at the country club 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: here in a week and would just try to make 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: it to the Open Championship at St. Andrew's, which he 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: said before is his favorite course in the world. So 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't I mean, while it's news because he tweeted 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: it out, I think we all assumed in the Gulf world, 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: those of us, that all of the sport, the Tiger 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: was probably not going to play in the US Open. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Now our boy Phil, uh, I don't think I expected 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: him one. He didn't join Live last week. We'll dive 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: into Phil, We'll dive into DJ, will dive into Live. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of thoughts there. We'll talk to 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Sobel about his reaction. He's talked to a lot of 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: people in professional golf, the PGA Tour or they rattled 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: just the whole thing. And then of course at go 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Lo Pod at gol Pod is my Instagram. If you 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: want to get your question answered here on the show, 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: you gotta go to at go Low pod. We got 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: a several new d M s I'm gonna read today 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: after we talked to Sobel so at go lo pod. 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the pod. If you like golf, you play 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: golf with your friends, tell him about the podcast. I 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: love talking golf and uh I hope you guys enjoy it. 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's start overall listen. I think initially Live was hoping 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: to land a bunch of guys in the top fifty. 51 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: They basically landed Gooch, Sergio and dj I. They were 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: hoping for some Bryson's maybe land like a JT. Rory type, 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: and they didn't. Though I think it's inevitable that Bryson 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: and even Ricky Fowler, while no longer being a top 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: fifty player, is easily one of the most famous golfers. 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: So Live the PGA Tours unique because my buddy Jeff Schwartz, 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: who played in the NFL for a long time, really 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: struggle to understand. He texts me the other day, like, 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: how can the PGA Tour allow these guys to do this? Baseball, football, basketball, 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: would never allow this. I said, well, they are not 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: under contract with these individuals in the sense of you're 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: not a W two employee, you're a ten ninety nine guy. 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: You have to pay. Like if I'm on the Golden 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: State Warriors when I flew back to Boston to play 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, I don't pay for anything. Joe 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Laco plays for the flight. I get per diem for 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: my food, they feed me, they put me up in 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: a hotel, they cover all the expenses. That's not how 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: golf works. When Dustin Johnson went to the DJ Championship, 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: went went to Augusta, went to Riviera, he compensates his flight. 71 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: So it's it's very unique that way. They are independent contractor. 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: His wife said over and over the PGA tour is 73 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: going to regardless whether you stand on the side of 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: an organization or whether you stand on the side of 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the employee. It's pretty clear they're gonna lose this fight. 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: You cannot tell someone where they can and cannot work 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: in this situation when they're atend ninety nine employee. It's 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: why an Uber driver is also allowed to drive for 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: lift and also deliver for door Dash. The PG eight 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Tour is essentially saying that if they were Uber, you're 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: not allowed to drive for lift and you're not allowed 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: to drive for door Dash, and these players are like, 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: screw you. Now. A lot of players, especially the rich ones, 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: have taken hardline stances. Well JT. Jordan's, those guys have 85 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: a ton of money, so it's easy for them to 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: do that. Taylor Gooch took the stance of like, I 87 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: don't even aspire to do that. Maybe I do, but 88 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go take the money. I because money talks 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and ship walks. If Jordan's Beat and Rory and some 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: of these guys didn't have the astronomical amount of wealth 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: they had, they easily could have been wooed by this thing. 92 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: But you can't convince me that the PGA Tour is 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: not really really rattled because whatever happens this weekend, I 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: don't know how much I'm gonna watch, Probably not much. 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I'll consume a little bit on my computer or phone, 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: see some stuff on Twitter. But here's what's gonna happen. 97 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the weekend. Payouts are gonna happen. 98 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: Someone is gonna win four million dollars, another guy is 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna win three million dollars. Another guy is gonna win 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: two million dollars. If you win two million dollars. I 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the purse for the rbc UH Canadian 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Open this weekend. There's a chance that the winner there 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: gets like one point eight. There's a chance that third 104 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: or fourth place at this event makes more money than 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: the winner on the PGA Tour. And here's the other thing, 106 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: there is no cuts. I am not pro Saudi Arabia. 107 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: I do not like pretend to be pro Greg Norman, 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: but I do understand they got something going for them. 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: The reason all these other leagues historically have always failed, 110 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: whether it's the USFL, I guess in my lifetime, there's 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: never been a like competition in basketball. They never have 112 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: enough money. They run out of the funds. Remember when 113 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: COVID hit and the a F canceled, it ended immediately 114 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: went bankrupt. They don't have the money. Vince McMahon's like, 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fund this. You know what. The Saudis 116 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: have unlimited amount of cash. I mean, there are rumors 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: out that there's two hundred million dollars waiting for Bryson D. Shambo. 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: If Bryson D Shambo lives up to the hype and 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: lives up to his potential. He will never in a 120 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: million years earned two hundred million dollars on the golf course. 121 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: It will not happen. Tiger Woods, who won all the majors, 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: all the tournaments, has a career earnings of like a 123 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: d twenty million dollars. Now, obviously it's a golfer. You 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: make a lot off the course. But when they're paying 125 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: these guys, like ultimately last year or last week when 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: DJ went as time went on, they gave him a 127 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: hundred potentially a hundred and fifty million dollars. And I 128 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: see so many of the media elites and listen, I'm 129 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: a fan of Brandon Shamblely. I love the Golf Channel, 130 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: it's my favorite channel on television. But I think him 131 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: and some of the other big Jay's they get so 132 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: morally superior. It's like, hey, guys, no one's offering you 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: that much money. Now you can argue. I respect Jordan's 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: because ultimately Jordan and Rory think about this, to meet 135 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: the two biggest properties non Tiger, and it's clear that 136 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: Tiger turned down close to a billion dollars. Well, Tiger 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: was bought by corporations. Tiger is worth a billion dollars 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: potentially right now. Tiger has and listen, I say it 139 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: all the time. The most powerful thing you can ever 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: say in business, and you could argue life, but definitely 141 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: in business is no, it increases your value. What did 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: DJ say originally no when they offered him sixty million dollars, 143 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Well he ended up quadrupling that, maybe not that, but 144 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: three exing that to exing that. He got more. When 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: you make someone chase you in business, you get more cash. 146 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: And Tiger just does need the money he has stupid amount. Well, 147 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Jordan and Rory are also two guys worth hundreds of 148 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: millions of dollars, and there was a report last week 149 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: that they turned down astronomical offers because if DJ, who 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: I respect DJs won twenty four times on Toris, won 151 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: multiple majors. He's easily one of the best players of 152 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of decades not named Tiger Phil and 153 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: you could argue he's every bit the equal of Rory 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: or Jordan. I know those guys have a couple more majors, 155 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: but when DJ was on, he could easily beat those guys. 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: We all acknowledge that, but he's not the personality or 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: the draw that those guys would be. So if DJ 158 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: is worth a hundred and fifty, what are Rory and 159 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Jordan worth four hundred? Because to me, Bryson, when I 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: see that he's potentially worth two hundred, he's a needle mover. 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: And if Bryson d Shambo commits to live, whether it's 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: this year or next year, that is a fucking body 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: blow to the PGA Tour because they only have so 164 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: many needle movers and Bryson is easily one of them. Now, 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: they're lucky that Rory and Jordan's are very loyal to 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: them and don't want to leave. But eventually, here's what 167 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I would under if I'm the PGA Tour. They have 168 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: more money than us, and usually when someone has more 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 1: money than you, they can beat you in a competition 170 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to business because they can pay more 171 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: for your employees, they can pay more for stuff. Here's 172 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: the other thing that live brings to the table. They 173 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: don't work as much. They play three day tournaments. They 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: aren't gonna have as many tournaments of the PGA Tour. Listen, 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm a golf fanatic. I love watching Riviera. I love 176 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: watching the Arnold Palmer, I love watching a lot bay Hill. 177 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Here's the reality most people don't. The majority of human 178 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: beings watch maybe the players and the majors, and here's 179 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the reality of live. These guys more than likely are 180 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to continue to play in the majors. 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: So if you can make fifty a D two hundred 182 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: million dollars. I also read today on social media that 183 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the caddies who pays for the caddies when they travel 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: around either themselves or they have an arrangement with the player, 185 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: they have to compensate it on their own or the 186 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: player has to take care of them. On the pag 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: a tour, you pays for the caddies expenses, pays for 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: their food, pays for their lodging, plays for their travel, 189 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: and live live. The caddies don't pay anything, and they're 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: getting more money. When I see the guy left Golf Channel, 191 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: someone leaves this, of course they do. They're offering triple 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the amount of money every decision we make in life. 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: And I've said forever you should never make a decision 194 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: strictly based on money when it's not that big of 195 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: a difference. If you make a hundred fifty grand and 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: another company offers you a hundred and eighty grand, Well, 197 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: if you love the company you work for, you like 198 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: the people you work for, you like your responsibilities, and 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: you have to move, it doesn't pencil. But if you 200 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: make a hundred fifty grand and you love the place 201 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: you work, and someone comes in with an offer of 202 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars, you would be doing your family 203 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: a disservice to not only seriously consider it more likely 204 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: to take the job. There is a reason in football 205 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: most coaches leave being a coordinator in great spots, whether 206 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: it's at Alabama, whether it's for Belichick, whether or two ever, 207 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: to become a head coach, because as a coordinator, you 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: make two million dollars. The moment you become a head 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: coach usually makes six or seven. You can't pass up 210 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: that type money. Now, I have no problem with anyone 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: taking the money, and I have no problem with anyone 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: taking turning it down. But here's the simple reality. As 213 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: this cash flows, and it is flowing, and unlike a 214 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: lot of businesses that get funded by venture capitalists or 215 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: get funded by one rich guy, eventually the faucet gets 216 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: turned off. Because they go, we are not getting the 217 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: r o I on our investment. You know who doesn't 218 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: give one ship right now about the r o I. 219 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: And I hear a lot of like the people saying, 220 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: well eventually they will Well maybe eventually they won't care 221 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: because they have an endless supply of cash. So for 222 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, let's just say the next five years, 223 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: they won't think for one second how many people watch 224 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel, how many people care about this event? 225 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: As long as it's working, as long as they are 226 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: moving the needle, and as long as they are getting players, 227 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: and as these payments are being paid out. Let alone 228 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the lump sums. But the tournaments when a random guy 229 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: wins two million dollars and I'm a great player and 230 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: I get thirty and someone and the PGA Tour pays 231 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: me seventy five people are going to continue to leave. 232 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: And if Bryson leaves, the PGA Tour will be rattled 233 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: because they need that guy. And I'm telling you, I 234 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: think he's gonna leave, and so do most people. And 235 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: when we look at Phil Mickelson, he's fifty one years old. 236 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: He clearly I give him some credit on he did 237 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: an interview with s I, and he talked openly about gambling. Now, 238 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: obviously we're sponsored by gambling. Here on the volume I've 239 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: been gambling, he had a quote in there that I 240 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: thought was very relatable to myself. I've been gambling as 241 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: long as I can remember. I relate to that. I 242 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: have been gambling as long as I can remember. I 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: don't remember when I was twelve years old. I started 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: gambling when I was fifteen or sixteen. We used to 245 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: sneak into a casino. I was a golfer, used to 246 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: gamble in the golf course. I'm thirty seven years old. 247 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: I've been gambling over half my life, and I've been 248 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: in positions where I've gambled too much and I've lost money. 249 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: I've also made in positions where I won some money. 250 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I love the gamble, so do Phil, so do most 251 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: people I associate with. I think there's a chance, now 252 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I would always stop myself because I didn't 253 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: have an unlimited ount of money. So if I lost 254 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: ten grand I couldn't. I'd be in some trouble. I 255 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: might not be able to pay a mortgage, I might 256 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: not be able to pay some bills. Phil could lose 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: millions upon millions of dollars, and it was reported that 258 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson lost forty million dollars. Well, once I read 259 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: some of his quotes in the SI article, I think 260 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: he's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Now. Luckily, Phil 261 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: Mickelson is worth seven eight hundred million dollars and losing 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars, like he said, is reckless and embarrassing. 263 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: It didn't ruin his life, and didn't ruin his family's life, 264 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and didn't ruin uh, it didn't bankrupt him. He was lucky, 265 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: but he had a problem. Listen, I think it's easy 266 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: to kind of get on the line because Alpha's aggressive 267 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: people like I'm not trying to compare myself to Phil Mickelson, 268 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: but I love the juice of gambling. I don't even 269 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: love the juice like, I don't gamble to make money. 270 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: I work to make money. I gamble for entertainment. I 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: gamble for fun. It gets me going, just like a 272 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: lot of people that I know in my life. Most 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: people I know are big gamblers. Why Because it's the juice, 274 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: it's the fun of it all. And I've never lost 275 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: amount of money that crippled me. Clearly, Phil, I don't 276 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: care if you're worth five hundred million dollars, you lose 277 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. And again I'm just guessing this, 278 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: but the way he's talking forty million dollars when you're 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: worth eight hundred whatever, that's is that reckless? Yeah, it's 280 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: not that big a deal. Money is all relative, Like 281 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I think he needs this money. So when you see 282 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: they're paying him two hundred million dollars first and foremost 283 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: at fifty one years old, how could Phil Mickelson, even 284 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: if he had never blown any money, turned down two 285 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now you can say for his reputation 286 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: with who? The internet like? Who? On? My question is this? 287 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: The Saudis do shady ship, as do a lot of countries. Right, 288 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: we're balls deep in China. They do horrendous ship. We're 289 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: in business with them all. So the Saudis are offering 290 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: a ton of money, and if he turns it down, 291 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: he gets an applause from who Twitter? The media? He 292 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: takes it? Who really is that mad at him? Like, 293 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: if he needs the money, he takes the money. That's 294 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: the reason we all eventually do things for money. That's 295 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: the way the world works, that's the way America works. Capitalism. 296 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Now you can say, is it the right move legacy 297 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: his reputation. Yeah, that's all fair. But I think, and 298 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I've been saying over and over and over again, if 299 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: you want to justify your move instead of bullshitting all 300 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: these comments that Phil kind of put in a statement 301 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: or the DJ talked about, just tweet the number. If 302 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: I was Dustin Johnson, I'd say, listen, resigning from the tour, 303 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: all the other fluff I'm talking about. Guys, they gave 304 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: me a hundred and fifty million dollars. If you were 305 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: sitting in my shoes, you would have taken it too. 306 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: And if we all didn't pretend to be something we're not, 307 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: would agree with him. Phil Mickelson. They gave me two 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. I don't have quite the money Tiger does. 309 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have, whether it's the security whatever, to turn 310 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: down eight hundred million dollars like Tiger Woods, I didn't. 311 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I can respect Jordan and Rory for turned it down, 312 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: but I I didn't. I couldn't. If I'm Taylor Gooch. 313 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: They gave me forty million dollars Kevin Nod they gave 314 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: me thirty five million dollars. That is relatable, not because 315 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: we have that much money or ever will have that 316 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: much money, because if we were in their shoes, we 317 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: would do the same thing. And the p g A 318 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Tour does will never ever have the ability to give 319 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: them that money the way they're set up as a 320 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: charity five oh one seed, that's never gonna happen. I 321 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: think sometimes the problem with golf as someone who's just 322 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm all in on football and golf. In football, we open, 323 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: we talk about money, we celebrate big contracts, we argue 324 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: big contracts, we talk about the cash, how much coaches 325 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: are making, how much the start quarterbacks are making. It's 326 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: all about the money. In golf, we love to be like, 327 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: well they're playing for the Wanna maker. Well they're playing 328 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: for the lakes. No, they're literally playing for fucking cold 329 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: hard cash for money, and until you make enough, you're 330 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: never secure because on the PGA Tour you can lose 331 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: your card, you can lose your status, and the PGA 332 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: Tour golf is always what's weird is golf to the 333 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: number one gambling sport. Anyone that plays golf, you're always 334 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 1: gambling the buddy, whether it's a dollar where there's five 335 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: dollars with five dollars, whether it's for dinner, get they 336 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: never we never feel comfortable talking about it. It's a 337 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: lot like college football, where's like, hey, guys, you're paying 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: the players. You've been playing the players for fifty years. 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: No one gives a ship. We just want to watch 340 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: college football, college basketball. We don't care. But they're always 341 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of beat around the bush. No different with golf. 342 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: Jim Nance never wants to talk about the money on 343 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: the CBS, like this put is for eight hundred grant. 344 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: That is interesting, and I'll give if Live embraces that 345 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: the money that is fascinating. The media will call them scumbags, 346 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: they'll resent it. They resent business. Most humans were fascinated 347 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: by it, were drawn do it. And the PGA Tours 348 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: in this tough spot where they can't pay people to 349 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: show up. That's against the rules of their business model. 350 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Now they can do this fake p I P. They 351 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: gave out forty million dollars. There's a chance that Sergio 352 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: Garcia was literally just paid forty million dollars to go 353 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: to Live. How is the PGA Tour big picture gonna 354 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: compete if Live doesn't go away, because if they don't 355 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: go away, the PGA tours in major trouble. I'll promise you. 356 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: Just because it's natural, people are gonna gravitate. Ultimately, DJ 357 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: is a great example. He couldn't turn down the money, 358 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: and he originally said the most powerful thing you can say, No, 359 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm good, guys, I'm gonna stay with the PGA tour. 360 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm good. And then they said, what's your number? Bro? 361 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: And then he threw something out. Let's just say it 362 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: happened that way, and he threw out a number like 363 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: any of us would. What would you want if you 364 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: could get it? And you throw out a number, you 365 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: write it on a piece of paper, you hand it 366 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: to the shark, and then he says, no problem, in 367 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: done deal. A lot of people are okay, well I'm 368 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: in then, right. Who would not take more money to 369 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: work less, spend more time with your family? Now, I'm 370 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: a PGA tour aficionado. I love the PGA Tour, but 371 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: most people don't. It's not like the majors are huge 372 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: and tigers big. But there's a reason golf, like ultimately, 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: the Byron Nelson or bay Hill just isn't that interesting 374 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: to a large percentage of people. They'll get one point 375 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: five or two million people to watch, But for the 376 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: most part the fields are very hit or miss. My 377 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: favorite tournament of the year is Pebble Beach, but now 378 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: because the sadis pay people to go, the Pebble Beach 379 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: field is terrible. The only big name there is really 380 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: Jordan's because he's an a T and T guy. If 381 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Jordan was sponsored by Nike or Aquafina, he would probably 382 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: be in Saddi even if he wasn't joining the live 383 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: they would pay him so much money to go to 384 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: that tournament. Instead, he's at a T and T Pebble Beach. 385 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: But for the most part, look who compete competitive of 386 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach. It's like Tom Hogan Verse Burger vers Jordan's speech. 387 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: The top guys aren't walking through that door anymore. Riv 388 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: is somewhat unique, but this Tiger's tournament. But I still 389 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I I'm telling you, beside the majors and the players, 390 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: it's just it's not as big, I think as some 391 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: of the true die hard die hearts. And to be 392 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: a huge business in to print cash, you need to 393 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: get more casual fans, and it's gonna be hard as 394 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: it's splinters. And I think, say what you want about 395 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Greg Norman eaglemaniac. If you saw the picture Big penis Uh, 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: he's he's onto something and the only reason he has 397 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: a chance is because he's funded shady people with unlimited 398 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: amount of money and they're just not gonna go away 399 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: like Taylor, which is not gonna be the first. Like 400 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: if you told me there are some other big names 401 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: between twenty five and their early thirties and the next 402 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: twelve months that become I would bet ten thousand dollars 403 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: right now beside Bryson Ricky they get another Holy sh it, 404 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: this guy is leaving the PGA Tour in the next year. 405 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: I bet I wouldn't even hesitate putting ten thousand dollars 406 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: on the table, and you could argue I'd feel pretty 407 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: good about multiple names. Now this might I'm not saying 408 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: it's rom or Jordan, but if you tell me Joaukee, Neman, 409 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: Victor Hovlin, I'm just throwing out some random names, like 410 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna get top twenty five players because that's what 411 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: the pg tour. You have to earn all your money 412 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: as a player. Why wouldn't you go to a tour 413 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: where you just get it handed to you. It's just 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: it's basic human nature. Even if you are These guys 415 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: are all high achieving, high workers. It's just basic math. 416 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: It really is. Now how good the products gonna be? 417 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what the incentive for DJ to stay good. 418 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you obviously want to stay good 419 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: because you still want to win the majors. But things change, 420 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying the PGA tour is completely screwed 421 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: and gonna go away, but if you told me we 422 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: look back in five ten years and it splintered it 423 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: and it was never the same, like I could I 424 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: could see that happening if the Sadi's never tap out, 425 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: and I don't see any desire for them to tap 426 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: out given the money. So this is Tiger left today 427 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: and told said he wasn't gonna play in the U 428 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: s Open, and it felt like an afterthought. It really did. 429 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: And I can't wait, I repeat, can't wait to see 430 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: Phil at the US Open. I mean that you talk 431 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: about a press conference, it's going to be an absolute circus. 432 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, sign me up for that. Phil has got 433 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: the beard. Phil has got a little midlife crisis. He 434 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: looks like he's got He's got the leather jacket going. 435 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Let's go through some of the names. DJ's team name 436 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: is four Aces. Don't hate it, uh, Kevin Nah's name 437 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: is iron Heads. That's terrible. Louise Stinger not bad, Martin 438 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Khimer cliques, no clue what that means. Peter you line? 439 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: How is he a captain the Crushers fills the high Flyers. 440 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: I think my favorite, though, because it feels like a 441 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: movie name is Sergio's team is called the Fireballs. I 442 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have been making fun of 443 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the Fireballs. I'm not gonna lie, don't totally hate it. 444 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: I hope eventually we can institute some people wearing the 445 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: clothing with this, you know, plastered all over them, which 446 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: I think is inevitable. But I'm telling you as someone 447 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: who questioned this, I wouldn't say I danced on the grave, 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: but I thought it was over. I've completely changed my tune. 449 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: I think this is going to uh have major, major 450 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: ramifications for years to come. If the Sadis don't back out, 451 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: and I listen, why would they? I mean, what if 452 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: it works? 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I walked away from 493 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: my phone for four minutes earlier today and I missed 494 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: an entire news cycle. I mean serious. It's like golf. 495 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: People think golf is a slow moving sport just followed 496 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: on social media on Monday or Tuesday. The thing moves 497 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: faster than anything. Right now, Well, before we dive into leave, 498 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: let's let's start with a couple of headliners. We now 499 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: know that Phil Mickelson will play in the US Open, 500 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: and you know, the guy that always got the best 501 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: of them, Eldrick Tiger Woods is now out of the 502 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: U s Open. Your thoughts, Yeah, so we're saying a 503 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: month ago the PJ Championship, Man, a year ago, you 504 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: never would have thought that Phil would be out in 505 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Tiger would be And then a month ago you never 506 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: thought Tiger would be out for the US Open and 507 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: Phil would be in. Like I said, things are changing 508 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: very very quickly in the world of golf. Look, I 509 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: hope Tiger Um gets healthy and I hope he can 510 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: go play the Open Championship because, as I've been saying 511 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: for a few months. I've always believe that that's the 512 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: one he's got, uh circle on his calendar that he 513 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: thinks he can go to St. Andrews and compete, maybe 514 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: even contend for that event. So hopefully he gets healthy. 515 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: Not a huge surprise that Tiger's not playing at Brookline, 516 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the fact that Phil is coming back, I mean, it's 517 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to me. Skip the Masters, skip the 518 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: PGA Championship where he had a chance to tell everybody 519 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: all about his win from last year, but he will 520 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: go play the US Open XT I mean left, it's hypothetical. 521 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: He's fifty one years old, he hasn't played competitive golf 522 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: down in four or five months. Can you imagine Phil 523 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: Mickelson going to Brookline next next week and winning the 524 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: US Open, the one that's always eluded him, and then 525 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: going back to live golf, go and play play plays 526 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: an event in Portland two weeks playing its celebrates US 527 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Open victory and the career Grand Slam. The world is 528 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: weird right now, man, I mean, is it safe to say. 529 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Tiger is that much of a shock 530 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: how much physically he was struggling. Uh So that's not 531 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: that crazy. But Phil who I don't know if you 532 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: saw he did an interview with like s I and 533 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: he talked about how he needed time away, but he 534 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: is not unlike we'll dive into DJ and McDowell and 535 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I and uh, I guess McDowell didn't, but no, did 536 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: resign from the PGA tour, And you can help us 537 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: better understand that philis claim. I'm not resigning from the 538 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. Obviously his lifetime status which is what like 539 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years and twenty plus wins on tour, so he 540 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: he has exempt whenever he wants to play. Uh, I 541 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: guess just your thoughts on Phil and some of his 542 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: quotes and now coming back, I mean, are you surprised? Uh? 543 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: What's your take on Phil Mickelson as of the information 544 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: we have today. Yeah, none of it should be a surprise. Look, 545 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: we've known for months that this was going to happen 546 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: at some point. Maybe it's a little bit of a 547 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: surprise that the list for Live Golf's first event came 548 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: out last week and Phil's name wasn't on it, and 549 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: we thought, oh, maybe he's not a change of heart. 550 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't work out. My guess is after DJ 551 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: signed for reported hundred and fifty million film might have 552 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: made fifty million dollars more himself just by waiting, by 553 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: sitting on his hands and saying, I don't know, I'll 554 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: think about it. We'll see what's gonna happen. I'm guessing 555 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: the folks that run live Golf at some point got 556 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: a little warriors that fine, you know what, We'll give 557 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you whatever you want, come on over to London. We 558 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: need you to play in this thing. This was always 559 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: the plan, and so I'm guessing that Phil did pretty 560 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: well for himself just sort of waiting and waiting and waiting. 561 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: That said, the fact that some of these guys are 562 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: resigning from the PGA Tour, from what I understand, what 563 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: does that mean? What does that mean? So? Jamnahan, the 564 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: commissioner from the PGA Tour, has been saying from say, 565 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: if you go play live golf, we are going to 566 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: take disciplinary act against you. Now, what is that disciplinary action? 567 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: We have no idea because I don't think the tour 568 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: has any idea because the lawyers are going through everything 569 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what disciplinary action you can 570 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: take against the player who decided to go play another tour. 571 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what it can be. It can be 572 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: a suspension, it can be a fine, it can be 573 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: a banishment. I have no idea what it can be, 574 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: but they haven't announced that. The speculation though, is that 575 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: if the PGA Tour suspended a player who is still 576 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: a member of that tour, that player, if qualified Dustin 577 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Johnson is a great example for the major championships, then 578 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: couldn't go play the majors because they uphold those suspensions 579 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: from the PGA Tour. But if you resigned from the 580 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, well they can't enforced disciplinary action against you. 581 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: And so if Dustin Johnson or other players resigned from 582 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, well there's no suspension. They can then 583 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: go play the major championships. It's all a big catch 584 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: twenty two. But but I do understand kind of where 585 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: they're going with it right now. So when when Kevin 586 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: non DJ say they resigned, it's safe to say they 587 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: plan on playing the four majors moving forward, right I 588 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: would think so, And I would think the four Majors 589 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: are planning on having them. I have seen some thought 590 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: as to, you know, hey, they should you know, the 591 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: U S g A and the RNA. They should ban 592 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: these guys and not let them play the majors. I 593 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: don't see why they would necessarily have a dog in 594 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: the hunt. They're not related to the PJ Tour. Sure 595 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: there's a partnership there, and sure there's you know, things 596 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: they work on together. It's a sanction to bed. But 597 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't see why the U s G would necessarily 598 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: care if a player who's twenty three in the world 599 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: is playing the PGA Tour or Live Golf, they say, well, 600 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: you're qualified for our event, you're allowed to come in. 601 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: And quite frankly, it would be a really bad look 602 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: for either of those opens to say to a player 603 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: you went to live golf, you can't play. That's what 604 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: it's all about. I mean, Roy mclboy said, it's the 605 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: most democratic golf tournament in the world. If you're good enough, 606 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: you qualify, you get in. For them to say, oh, 607 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: you can't do it, it essentially makes it the US 608 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Open closed instead of the US Open. Well, we talked 609 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: last week on Tuesday morning and then Tuesday afternoon. You know, 610 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: Phil is a big story because of his name, but 611 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: we all knew he was inevitably going here. DJ said 612 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm out. And then on Tuesday afternoon a week ago, 613 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: DJ said I'm in. And you've now had a week 614 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: covering this talking to people about it. Obviously, the money 615 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: is kind of out there million he talked this morning. 616 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Just tell me your reaction to DJ announcing he's in, 617 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: and just over the week, what you've learned about the 618 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: situation with him Specifically, the sense that I've gotten is 619 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: that three days before the announcement was made last week, 620 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson was not part of this, that he had 621 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: said three months earlier, Hey it's not for me. I'm 622 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: as stick with p GA tur And then they just 623 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: kept throwing money at him, and he kept getting a 624 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: little bit more interested, and he kept thinking about, Hey, 625 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: I've got a young family at home, and I don't 626 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: necessarily need to go play every single week on PG 627 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: eight tour. Look, these guys are gonna play eight events, 628 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: their three round events. It's twenty four days out of 629 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: the year. They're gonna have three hundred and forty days 630 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: off and get paid maybe ten times fifteen times more 631 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: than they were making already. It's other that if you 632 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: can get over the ethical and moral decisions of it, 633 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: which granted that's a major part of it, and there 634 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: is sports watching going on. I I just wrote another 635 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: story about it, sort of explaining kind of what this 636 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: all means and what these players are doing. They're essentially 637 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: complicit in trying to change the messaging from the Saudi 638 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: Arabian government from hey, it's a murderous regime that has 639 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: a nefarious human rights record too. Oh, they give opportunities 640 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: to some of the world's best golfers and let me 641 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: go play golf over there. It's it's a changing world, 642 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: and they're they're complicit in, you know, letting Saudi Arabia 643 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: change that opinion of what they are. But look, everybody's 644 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: gotta and I get it. I mean, if someone comes 645 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: to you and they say, hey, we want you to 646 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: work for some really bad people, but you're gonna work 647 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: three times less, you get paid three times more, you say, 648 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: all right, well I can I can sort of make 649 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: do with that. You know, maybe it's hey, I won't 650 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: do it for three times more. How about ten times more? Uh, 651 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: there's still they're bad people. I don't know if I 652 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: want to do it. How about twenty times more? You 653 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: know what, They're not that bad. I can get along 654 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: with this. At some point, everybody's got a price, does DJ. 655 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: Obviously he has twenty plus wins, and you know, you 656 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: could probably I don't know exactly, as he's been on 657 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: the tour for fifteen years. He exclaimed the day he 658 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: was Does he fall under that Phil category lifetime exemption 659 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: as a PGA Tour member, Yeah, exactly, And you're right. 660 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: I think he may have another year or two to 661 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: claim that lifetime exemption, but essentially he has, he has 662 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: the win number. Yes, it's it's It's very interesting the 663 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: fact that Phil says, no, I'm a lifetime member of 664 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. I don't want to give that up. 665 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: And Phil thinks he can fight it and win, and 666 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he's wrong about that. I think 667 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: that Phil's probably got a good sense of what he's 668 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna do. He's got a good team of lawyers that 669 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: he's worked with for a long time, and a lot 670 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: of things. Dustin Johnson says, Hey, I'm just gonna resign 671 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: from the PGA Tour instead of trying to fight it 672 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: and use that lifetime membership. I guess DJ just doesn't care. 673 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: He just like, what do you want me to do? 674 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Go play in Greensboro later this year where there's no 675 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: event on the Lift Golf Tour, and trying to fight 676 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: it because I don't want to fight it because it 677 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't DJ know some of If if Phil fights 678 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: it and wins, then he can just piggyback off ad. 679 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Maybe now it might be a little bit different now 680 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: that he's resigned, as opposed to staying as a member 681 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and not resigning. I don't know where the language would 682 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: cut that off. So again, there's so much I feel bad, John. 683 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: I've been doing interviews, I've been posting shows for the 684 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: last week, let alone, you know, the last three months, 685 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: and everyone's asking these questions. I'm like, uh, maybe maybe not. 686 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: There's so much unknown here. Well as obviously the Masters, 687 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: if you win it, you get a lifetime exemption. Uh. 688 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: The the the Open, the British Open as I call it, 689 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: you get a lifetime exemption as well. You get to 690 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: play in sixty years old years old. Yeah. The US 691 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Open is not now, right, it's ten years and years 692 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: after you win. Got you? So DJ is exempt like 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: Phil Masters forever. Uh. The US Open, he has another 694 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: whatever five six years and he hasn't one the other two. 695 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: So Phil can play the Open until he's sixty, right, 696 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: And here's a big part of it, and it factors 697 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: in less for a DJ and a Phil, and more 698 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: for maybe a guy like Lee Westwood or Sergio Garcia. 699 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: But what happens here is that right now there are 700 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: no official World Golf Ranking points for the live golf events. 701 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: The way you get into the major championships other than 702 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: winning a PGA Tour event, other than winning a major 703 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: championship and having that exemption is being in the top 704 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: fifty of the world ranking. That's one of the easiest 705 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: ways for these elite level players to get in by 706 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: playing in the lived golf events. These guys are not 707 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: getting any World rank king points and so there's no 708 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: way to keep moving up in that ranking and staying there. 709 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: So a guy like Lee Westwood, I don't know what 710 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: Lee's rank is right now, it's probably somewhere around fifty. 711 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna start losing points. He's never won a major championship, 712 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: so he's not qualified for them already, so he's essentially 713 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: giving up on hey, I can go in a major 714 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: championship someday and saying I'm just gonna go play live 715 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: golf as opposed to a Phil or a DJ who 716 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: they should be qualified for a while. I mean, I 717 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: don't think uh DJ is gonna fall out of the 718 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: top fifty for a while. Phil's got the exemption from 719 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: winning the PGA last year for at least five years 720 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: and everything, so they're not too worried about it. You know, 721 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: obviously guys don't play in every event, but for all 722 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: the big events, non majors, for the most part, you know, 723 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: of the guys that matter, do I mean, DJ naw Louis, Phil, 724 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: Sergio Gooch. I mean, these are now spots on the 725 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: PGA Tour for guys right to take advantage. I mean, 726 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: those guys are not gonna be in just the Byron 727 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: Nelson or riv and we assume, right, so aren't Aren't 728 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: There just gonna be more opportunities for younger players or 729 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: guys on the fringe to take advantage of those. Nobody 730 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: from the PGA Tour is ever going to admit this. 731 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: Nobody from Live Golf is ever going to admit this. 732 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: I think that at some point, John, this could wind 733 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: up being mutually beneficial for everybody involved. You get, essentially 734 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour gets rid of a lot of players, 735 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: not that they want to get rid of them, necessarily 736 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: gets rid of guys on the back lind of their 737 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: careers who are in their forties, who aren't necessarily major 738 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: drawing cards anymore. The players themselves, they get paid and 739 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: they get to play less golf, which is something they 740 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: all want at this stage and their careers. Louis eustas 741 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: And said today that he's always thought about retiring at 742 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: the age of forty. This gives him a chance that 743 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: essentially being semi retired and being able to go work 744 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: on his farm, which he's always wanted to do, and 745 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: then lift golf gets to showcase guys with some big 746 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: names that that's kind of what they want to do 747 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: as well. Just have some big names playing golf and 748 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: uh and and and again, altering the messaging that they're 749 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: trying to do. It could work out for everybody. The 750 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: PGA Tour gets to replace these guys, not necessarily one 751 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: for one deal, but essentially gets to replace a Mooie 752 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: use days a surgeon of Arcia Lee Westwood with the 753 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: twenty two year old stud coming out of Oklahoma stake 754 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: the Gala Davis Riley. The next group of those type guys. Obviously, 755 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people around the governing body 756 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: of the PGA Tour. Is it safe to say that 757 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: they're rattled, nervous right now, Rattled, nervous, worried, angry. Yeah, 758 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: I think you run the Gabbett of emotions, and yes, 759 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: I would say all of those things. I don't know, 760 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: just to look at that from the outside, I don't 761 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: know that the PGA Tour was fully prepared for what's 762 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: happened exactly. I think they always kind of do, Okay, 763 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: this is coming, it's on the horizon, we'll deal with it. 764 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: We'll tell players, hey, we're gonna we're gonna take disciplinary 765 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: action against you if you do this, and that should 766 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: be enough. That would be enough to keep the players 767 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: not really gonna have a mass exodus and all go 768 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: over and play this live golf thing. I think it's 769 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: hit him pretty hard. I think the last week and 770 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: a half two weeks has hit the p G A 771 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Tour harder than they ever thought it would. I think 772 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: they that is that because of Dustin Dustin Johnson and 773 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: Taylor Gooch, those two names specifically probably had to be 774 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: the front liners. Yes, I would think maybe even less DJ. 775 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean just because DJ is again he's towards the 776 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: end of his career. We never thought DJ was gonna 777 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: be playing PGA Tour champions when he's sixty two years old. 778 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a lot of money, he's got 779 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: other interests. He's he's not gonna be playing that much. 780 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: And DJ aren't the same. Yeah, not exactly. He's not 781 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: gonna be the next hell Orman. Um. I will say 782 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: the two names that I think really scared the p 783 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: G A Tour, and again it's just from an outsiders perspective, 784 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: Taylor Gooch and Hudson Swofford. These are guys who aren't 785 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: that old, who are sort of in the primes of 786 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: their PGA Tour careers, guys who have each one already 787 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: this season, who have exemptions. They're not worried about I 788 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: might lose my card, so let me jump ship before 789 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: I lose it. These guys are good for the next 790 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: few years if they want to be. These are the 791 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: guys that I don't think they ever consider losing. They 792 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: never thought that a Taylor Gucha Hudson Swofford was gonna 793 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: go anywhere, so I think they're scared about that. They're 794 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: scared about the president now of Okay, we can lose 795 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: the guys who are forty seven years old, we can 796 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: lose the guys who don't have a card. We can't 797 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: lose the guys who are the nuts and bolts of 798 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: the PGA. Two are the guys who play weeks a year. 799 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: That's really gonna hurt them. I think if it continues 800 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: to happen, the two names, at least from my perspective, 801 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, social media and just reading everything you guys 802 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: have been writing and talking about Bryson and Ricky. Uh 803 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on those two guys. Is it inevitable that they 804 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: end up involved in this one day? Look, I'm not 805 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: saying anything is inevitable right now. The way the news 806 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: cycle is. I mean, things change in a hurry right now, 807 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: as I was saying earlier. But I would say, where 808 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire. And if you've heard the names, 809 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: there's probably reason that you've heard the names. Each of 810 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: those players has been at least open to the idea 811 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: of listening to live golf and hearing them out and 812 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: not automatically shutting them down and saying I will never 813 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: do that, And so I think it would be very 814 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: surprising to see saying a Rory McIlroy, who has been 815 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: adamantly against it the entire time. A Justin Thomas who 816 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: has spoken out and said NA not interested not doing that. 817 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: For Ricky Fowler, for Bryson d Shambo. Each of them 818 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: said it's an interesting opportunity. I'm going to weigh my options. 819 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: I'll see what's out there. It's not a yes, but 820 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: it's certainly not enough. Listen, we can say what we 821 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: want about Bryson. Obviously, Ricky had a good run, and 822 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: you could argue maybe it's over. And I know Bryson's 823 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, been banged up and played like ship at 824 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: the memorial. That would be a devastating loss for the 825 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: PGA tour. I mean he he's a needle mover for them. 826 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's that'd be a big deal if he 827 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: If he did a quote unquote, I resigned and I'm out, 828 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Both of those are are are 829 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: big deals. I see them as I don't know how 830 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: to rate them necessarily, but I think each of them 831 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: might be maybe even a bigger deal than Dustin Johnson. 832 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson might be a better player right now than 833 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: either of them. But you're talking about drawing cards, you're 834 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: talking about eyeballs. I mean, I've watched that countless times 835 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: over the last dozen years where Ricky Fowler walks off 836 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: the golf course, have to shoot the seventy four and 837 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: signs autographs for an hour and a half and has 838 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: kids and Puma hats and Puma shirts throwing sharpie's at 839 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: him because they love him so much. To lose a 840 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: guy like that, yeah, that's gonna hurt the brand name 841 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: and marketability of the PGA Tour. It shows you this 842 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a win for live. Because 843 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: we're fifteen twenty minutes in, we haven't even mentioned the 844 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: PGA Tournament this week, and I mean that's that shows you, man. 845 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: I mean, and like you wrote that, there aren't nobody's 846 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: playing in this thing. It's pretty top heavy that there 847 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: are some big names. We haven't even mentioned it, but 848 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: let's mention it now. Who do you like? Yeah, very 849 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: top of the field. And so I wonder here's a 850 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: little conspiracy for you. I wonder if the PGA Tour 851 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: went to the likes of Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, Justin 852 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: Thomas uh, Sam burns Uh went to these guys Cameron 853 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: Smith and said, hey, there's another event going on this week. 854 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: We need to deflect some of the attention away from 855 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Live Golf. The best way for us to deflect that 856 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: attention is having some big names playing our event. We 857 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: need you. I wonder if they told them that you 858 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: have to come play because look, we're gonna get crushed 859 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: if we have a worse field then Live Golf during 860 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: their first event. And so you look at and say, okay, 861 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: those five of the top ten players are playing this week. Hey, 862 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: it's a great field. It's nine of the top and 863 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: then it's only twelve of the top fifty. I mean, 864 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: the drop off is dramatic, and so this is not 865 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: a deep field whatsoever. If you're looking at the top 866 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: of the board and you're trying to pick a guy, 867 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: Rory probably needs the win more so than anybody else 868 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: in the top ten. The other guys have all one 869 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: and they've won pretty recently. Rory won this event three 870 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: years ago. Granted a completely different golf course, but you 871 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: talk about trying to gain some momentum going into a 872 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: major championship. Also, maybe a little karma player for Rory's 873 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: been so outspoken against live golf that maybe he wants 874 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: to sort of show show off a little bit and say, hey, 875 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: let me take the spotlight away from that another event 876 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: that's going on. So if I've got to pick one 877 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: of these guys, it's rory. But based on the prices 878 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: they're so short, he feels it's not deep. I'm not 879 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: chasing anybody in the marketplace. Well, I know that you 880 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: picked Rose another name and fan Delise fifty two one 881 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: and Tagala, who played pretty well last week. I mean, 882 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: the guy's got game, and even you wrote and it's 883 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: we've been talking about it, like, I think him and 884 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: Davis Riley are similar. They're gonna win at a price point. 885 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: It's like, damn, you could have got this guy at 886 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: fifty to one. You could have got this guy at 887 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: forty to one. It feels inevitable for both guys, right, Yeah, 888 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: I think so. I like those guys essentially this strategy 889 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: this week. And you're write, my favorite out right was 890 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: Justin Rose. It's not me saying I love Justin Rose. 891 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: I think he's the best player. He's gonna win this week. Now, 892 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: it's more I don't necessarily like playing anybody at seven 893 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: to one, eight to one, These guys who are super Simmie, Yeah, 894 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: they're looking ahead to a major championship next week. Who 895 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: knows how motivated there they are. And so I just 896 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: want to take a shot at some guys who are 897 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: in that fifty to one to seventy to one range. 898 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: Take take two, three, four or five guys and at 899 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: least have a chance of Hey, I can win with 900 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: a bigger price of bigger number as opposed to you know, 901 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: such a small payout on a guy who's eight to 902 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: one instead. I know, I like it really quick, before 903 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: I get you, before I get you out of here. 904 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: Do you think, what what's your expectation this weekend from 905 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: the live stuff? Like obviously it's gonna be on YouTube, 906 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna be some moments that probably go viral or whatever. 907 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, do you think they probably put some social 908 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: media influencers on the payroll? I mean, what, what what's 909 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: your expectation for the next come Sunday? Like what happened 910 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: over a couple of days. So far, the pr for 911 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: this thing, the social media presence for this thing has 912 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: been almost non existent. And so what it tells me 913 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: is that this ain't about us. It's just not. This 914 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 1: is not about hey, let's have a fun entertainment vehicle 915 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: that provides an alternative for the fans. This is not 916 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: about the fans. Now. If you want to put on 917 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: YouTube TV on Thursday morning and watch the live event Friday, 918 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: Thursday through Saturday, I believe, Oh it's Thursday through Saturdays, 919 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: so they're not even going Sunday. Yeah, so you want 920 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: to put on the live golf of band, it's gonna 921 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: be a shotgun. You want to watch it? I canna 922 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: say no, They'll let you do it. But quite frankly, 923 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: I don't get a sense that they care necessarily if 924 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: they have a million views or a hundred views. It 925 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter to them. This is about causing a disruption. 926 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: This is about changing the messaging for their government. It's 927 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: not about hey, let's create something for the fans out there. 928 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: Let's o the game. That's that's the last thing on 929 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: their priority list right now. I saw that they pulled 930 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: people and came up with people like the consumer wants 931 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 1: a shotgun start. What's what's your take on the shotgun? Okay, 932 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: we sitting here and talk about betting every single week 933 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: here on the pod John. A shotgun start might be 934 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: the worst idea for betting. Where where all sports going 935 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: right now? What's the biggest thing going on in all sports? 936 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: Odds betting odds, we can put some money on this stuff. 937 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: We can have a personal investment while we watch. Okay, 938 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: what does the liv Golf Tour do? Let's have a 939 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: shotgun start where it's terrible for Ben, you can't watch 940 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: everything going on at the same time. Things are gonna 941 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: flip too quickly. It's completely anti gambling. Which again, if 942 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to draw the fans, you're trying to get eyeballs, 943 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to get people to watch, that's the last 944 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: thing you want to do. So again, it just tells 945 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: me they don't care. That they just don't care. What 946 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: isn't the drama of winning a golf tournament that last day, 947 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: the setup of where they're staggered on the holes, like 948 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: this guy can this guy's leading, but he's on whole fifteen. 949 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: The leaders only on whole nine. He's still like as 950 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: part of the drama of a Sunday of golf and 951 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 1: to win, of course, I mean, maybe it'll be fun 952 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: to watch, you know, bouncing around two different holes. Hey, 953 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: they all have two holes left, and he's on thirteen 954 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: and he's on seven, and they each are tied to 955 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: the lead. I don't know, maybe that will be fun. 956 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't mind a shotguns start to the first round. 957 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, let's get them all out there, get 958 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: him playing quick. That's cool. But then repair and and 959 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: having a regular event afterwards. I mean, look, they're trying stuff. 960 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: It's fine, but again, it just doesn't seem like it 961 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: would fit the needs of the consumer right now. And uh, 962 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: which just tells me consumers, it's about them, it's not 963 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: about us. Well, so I know where we can find 964 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: your Thursday through Saturday in front of your computer watching 965 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: live golf on YouTube, and uh uh, enjoy the weekend, 966 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: and uh, I'll talk to you next week. You know 967 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: you'll you film it us in press conference. Can't wait 968 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: next week. I mean, I I firmly believe that everything 969 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: in golf will have changed by the time we talked 970 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: next week. We just talked for what minutes? And I 971 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to go on Twitter and see, like, you know, 972 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: who's defected and what leagues are popping up. Now, we'll 973 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: take it easy, man, have a good week. And and 974 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the lift. Thanks see you. Okay, let's go go 975 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: low mail bag at go low pod is the Instagram. 976 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put up some some consistent content up 977 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 1: there of me bullshitting about golf and some other posts. 978 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: So go follow that on Instagram at go low pod. 979 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: Question for the pod. My name is Vincent out of 980 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: San Diego, Love San Diego. I'm a new golf better 981 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: and have made some cash following your recent picks. Thanks 982 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: for that. You're welcome, buddy. Just wondering what you're right 983 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: who you're writing for this weekend's RBC Canadian Open. Are 984 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: you gonna focus on the top pack or try to 985 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: find some towards the middle and say Tony Finale or 986 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: someone like that. Two guys I really like this week. 987 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bet any of the I'm not betting 988 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: Cam Smith, Scheffler, Rory, any of the guys that are 989 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: like seven to one, eight to one, eleven to one. 990 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: Tony Finell is the last guy that I would I 991 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: would take and or I mean, the the highest odds 992 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: fan duel has them twenty five to one. Don't hate that. 993 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: The other guy, I think he's forty eight to one 994 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: is uh sehith Tha Gala, And I just think this guy, 995 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: him and Davis Riley to me are gonna win, and 996 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: when they win, you'll have got them at one fifty 997 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: two one. So I've benna put maybe fifty bucks on 998 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: each one of those guys. Tony Finell Fagala would be 999 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,479 Speaker 1: my two picks. John Nice spot Why all the fuss 1000 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: about the golfers gonna live when most casual golf fans 1001 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: don't care about non majors. Correct me if I'm wrong, Phil, 1002 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: Louis d J and others are still gonna be teeing 1003 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: it up at the major's regardless of the penalties the 1004 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: tour and poses. Correct. All these guys, Sergio Non, Uh, 1005 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: Phil DJ, uh, Louis Westwood are They're gonna be at 1006 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: the US Open. They will be. All of them are 1007 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna be at the US Open, every single one of 1008 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: the big names. Maybe I'm pretty sure Lee Westwood's in, 1009 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: but definitely Na, Louis DJ for sure, Phil for sure. 1010 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: They're going to the US Open, Gooch US Open. The 1011 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: one thing bigger than the tour, much bigger as far 1012 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, is the majors. Tiger doesn't give a 1013 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: shit about seventy plus non major wins. I think he 1014 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: threw out those trophies or lost them in a divorce settlement, 1015 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: and casual golf fans don't care about them either. It's 1016 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: the majors and as long as the live golfers can 1017 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: still tee it up at those tournaments which to find legacies. 1018 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't think they give two ships about the tour. 1019 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: Casual golf fan, but really enjoy your golf pad. I agree, 1020 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, the more money these guys make 1021 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: on live, why do they care about the Byron Nelson 1022 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: or even the Memorial or you know, the Arnold Palmer 1023 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 1: or the Century or the Barracuda or the Safe Way Open. 1024 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: They do not, So I'm with you if they're able 1025 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: to play in the majors, and they're going to be now. 1026 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: There is an element of official World Golf rankings. The 1027 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: live is not officially World Golf ranking, so guys like 1028 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Na, for example, will lose points as he plays, 1029 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: even though he technically resigned. Like Phil Mickelson, Is has 1030 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: a lifetime exemption. He has twenty plus wins and he's 1031 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: been on the tour fifteen years. So does DJ Technically 1032 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: I was talking about Sobril is he true fifteen years? 1033 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: But he has twenty four wins and DJs won the 1034 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: US Open and that is a ten year exemplion. But 1035 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: he's a Master's champion, so he can play the Masters 1036 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: until he dies. The question is simple, is Tiger worth 1037 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: one billy for your golf league? I can make an 1038 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: easy case for yes, if he only plays three or 1039 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: four tournaments. Full disclosure, I have done no research what 1040 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: they're buying for one billion. My jaw dropped when I 1041 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: saw it, and it shouldn't have. Uh. Yes, he would 1042 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: be worth if he took a cart and played live, 1043 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: he would be worth a billion dollars to them without. 1044 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: If Bryson d Jambo is worth two d Fiel's worth 1045 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: two hundred, feels probably worth a little more. I'd say 1046 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: both those guys are probably worth a little more Tiger's worth. 1047 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: There is no amount of money if Tiger is playing 1048 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: you can pay him and not feel good about your investment. 1049 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, Tiger is worth an astronomical amount of money 1050 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Tony Fene Alexander are the two most 1051 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: overrated players on tour. To settle a bet between friends, 1052 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: who do you think is the most long term upside 1053 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: better career. Would love to hear your take on the podcast. 1054 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: I would say that Xander is a better player than 1055 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: Tony Finale. If I was gonna bet on one the 1056 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: next ten years, and I don't think Tony's going away, 1057 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: I would bet on Zander over Tony Finale. Now, I'm 1058 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: with you. I think both have a hype train that's 1059 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: greater than there. There some but I mean pretty sure 1060 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: Xander won the Tour Championship Xander. Xander is a better 1061 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: player in Tony Final. Now we're talking about the best 1062 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: of the best, so it's not like that wide of 1063 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: a gap. But I think it's fair to say that 1064 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,959 Speaker 1: Zander this might be I wouldn't say controversial. I would 1065 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: bet on Zander to win a major or two. Tony 1066 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't win very often. Not that Xander wins a lot, 1067 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: but Xander's gonna win a major. I put I'd put 1068 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: ten grand on that right now, and honestly, Tony easily could. 1069 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: But I would bet on Zander to win a major. 1070 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: It said that Lived Golf offered Tiger one billion dollars 1071 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: nowhere compared to his awe career earnings as a golfer, 1072 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: not counting sponsorships. If he was, the move will be 1073 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: considered treason after he all he has given golf. Well, Tiger, 1074 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: if Tiger would would have gone to live the PGA Tour, 1075 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: I would say it would be really fucked because if 1076 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: Tiger went, a lot of people would follow, period point blank. 1077 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if they can barely walk, and he's old. 1078 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: If Tiger went, guys would follow, and it would make 1079 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: it easier because Tiger would take all the heat, right, 1080 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Tiger is the most famous guy in the 1081 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: history of golf by a mile. So like the reason 1082 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: Phil took all this heat is he was the most 1083 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: famous Guy's the reason he takes a lot more heat 1084 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 1: than DJ. He's just way more accomplished, way more famous, 1085 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: way more money, way more He's been famous for way longer, 1086 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: and Tiger is fifty x Phil, hundred x Phil. But 1087 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: Tiger is not gonna go. I'll give Tiger credit, like 1088 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: he he turned out a billion. Now it's easier turned 1089 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: down a billion when you probably already got a billion. 1090 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: But he's been pretty adamant, Like the PGA Tour meant 1091 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot to him. Now he made the PGA tour 1092 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: and its members a lot of cash. But he also 1093 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 1: like they helped him out, like it was a mutual, 1094 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: beneficial deal. They became cash cows together, and I think 1095 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: sometimes we lose sight of that, like you can make 1096 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: money with other people and then kind of resent him 1097 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: at the end when it was it was a partnership, 1098 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: and I would say the partnership between the two treated 1099 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: each other very very well. Uh at low pod fire 1100 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: in those d M s and um and yeah, I mean, 1101 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: what what a week? I guess. I don't know how 1102 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 1: much of the lift I'm gonna watch, but I'm gonna 1103 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: be paying attention. I've bet many of you will too, 1104 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: not like watch many holes, but we'll know what's going on, 1105 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Uh Again, I like to heat the 1106 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: Gala and Tony Finel will probably be my two bets 1107 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: this week. I'm not gonna bet much. I've lost, you know, 1108 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: I do not, Phil, but you know, probably a grand 1109 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: the last month betting on golf because I've just I 1110 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: haven't I haven't hit anything. I guess the one thing 1111 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: I hit was JT. But I lost all this other money. 1112 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: So it ull bounced each other out and I have 1113 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: not come close the last couple of weeks, even though 1114 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: Davis Riley has been in the mix. But when you 1115 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: pick him to win, he doesn't come through. Just come on, Davis, 1116 00:57:44,200 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: UH talk soon. Peace the volume