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Speaker 1: Was very appreciative. I'm wondering what you got out of

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Speaker 1: When I read it. George Plimpton's paper line was kind

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Speaker 1: it's been a great man afternoon, Bill, Mike Petralias, Sealin

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Speaker 1: s media. A lot of talk obviously about player camaraderie

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Speaker 1: So you know, every coach wants to do what's best

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