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Speaker 1: we know this is Miami's mayors. We notice other Miami,
Speaker 1: but this is the Miami president. This is Miami in Miami.
Speaker 1: If he don't get your co sign, then you you
Speaker 1: cannot live out here. He's the person, he's personally. If
Speaker 1: he didn't exist, a brother like me and r E
Speaker 1: would not exist because I always talk the worst ship
Speaker 1: on records. But he's the guy who went to court
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Speaker 1: relevant to this day. This man is out here coaching
Speaker 1: that not only he did all the craziest ship, but
Speaker 1: he's also given back to the youth and the community.
Speaker 1: If you don't know who we're talking right right now,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the godfather, the father of Miami, of
Speaker 1: South Florida, of speaking your mind right now, we're your
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke. Uncle Luke, I'm such a fan of you.
Speaker 1: I've been living in Miami for ten years, but prior
Speaker 1: to that, I've been coming to Miami ten years before that,
Speaker 1: and I could just remember, I'm digging right into it.
Speaker 1: I could just remember Cowards and Calmpton. I just remember
Speaker 1: that because it's crazy because now that I lived in
Speaker 1: Miami and I literally I would probably say I lived
Speaker 1: out here ten years. I would probably say Miami maybe
Speaker 1: six years, and then Broward maybe like three or four,
Speaker 1: maybe even maybe in five. And that's saying will always
Speaker 1: be it gets prayed the day and all that. And
Speaker 1: I never knew that they got that from. So how
Speaker 1: did that even start? Like you gotta you gotta, you
Speaker 1: gotta set it up? We had we had a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and then he talked about it. He
Speaker 1: said that when that beef popped off, they quickly found
Speaker 1: out how real Uncle Luke was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That was my that was my transition from from the
Speaker 1: streets to you know, to the music business. You know,
Speaker 1: I still had a lot of streets in me, and
Speaker 1: I still had a lot of a shot at you. First,
Speaker 1: I think we took a shot at them. Yea, it
Speaker 1: was the original. I mean it was, let me tell
Speaker 1: you it was. It was. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: disrespect for Miami. I mean, you know, you had at
Speaker 1: one point you had read Man and that whole thing
Speaker 1: when they did the record where it was like what's up,
Speaker 1: what's up? But they did in the Miami. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now I think I think you're both bucket. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it was like you know, you know when you
Speaker 1: when you're in the business, like I'm in the business
Speaker 1: and we're going on too, We're trying to do shows,
Speaker 1: you know, just giving us you know, this much stage
Speaker 1: to work with, you know, and teen and fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: on stage and all that. Less than that, you know,
Speaker 1: one or two songs. So it was just a whole
Speaker 1: lot of But that was when you was to live
Speaker 1: Cruel two, Live creul so so now so now snooping them.
Speaker 1: They do this video and then you do like it
Speaker 1: was and you did the same video and then you
Speaker 1: had JT. Money on Man. Yeah, and it was the
Speaker 1: other guy that was on that record, someone from Poison
Speaker 1: Claim somebody it was it was it was JT. Money,
Speaker 1: and then it was another artist was working with what
Speaker 1: I forget what was? Yeah, yeah, so so you you
Speaker 1: make this video and then Snoop was like, Snoop says
Speaker 1: it because at this time, I came out in nineteen seven,
Speaker 1: so you guys were way before that, and then Snoop
Speaker 1: was ninety one, I think he said it was, so
Speaker 1: at this time, people are just seeing Miami beaches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did because he said that, he said, he said, Luke,
Speaker 1: we figured out how real Luke was? How did that happen? Like?
Speaker 1: What did y'all see them somewhere? Well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it was just you know, back then at that period
Speaker 1: of time, you know, shook night Head and everybody you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah, they all all the record executives,
Speaker 1: they're all nervous. Everybody nervous, you know, and so during
Speaker 1: that period of time, it was, you know, some kind
Speaker 1: of way it became, you know a question about whether
Speaker 1: or not he got us ship. I'm like, no, they
Speaker 1: ain't got me. Shoo. I'm really on some different ship,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just in the music business. Right now,
Speaker 1: everybody something. So you know, so at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know, we made the song, they made
Speaker 1: the song, and then we ended up at Jack the Rapper,
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we we Basically it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: they look you know, I went to Jack the Rapper
Speaker 1: and was like, Yo, this is the time you might
Speaker 1: need to squash this. Yeah, you know, they're coming down.
Speaker 1: Everybody come down for the convention. So you know, they
Speaker 1: were like, no, we ain't gotta do no talking about
Speaker 1: nothing and all that, right, So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well this ship is gonna go down. So you know,
Speaker 1: who wants wants my dudes, you know, the dudes who
Speaker 1: again making a transition from corporate world from the streets,
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody was looking at us like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's some booty shaking dudes. They're playing the booty music on.
Speaker 1: But you know, we were rapping about ship that's gonna
Speaker 1: get us put in jail, you feel me. I would
Speaker 1: look at like, you know, dudes who be rapping about
Speaker 1: that ship, they're just rapping about who they know, They
Speaker 1: ain't rapping about somebody. They ain't really live that life
Speaker 1: like that, you feel me. So you know that's That's
Speaker 1: why I want to hold different direction with what I
Speaker 1: was talking about. But at the same time, them dudes,
Speaker 1: you know, ship happened and my homeboys on the streets
Speaker 1: was like, yo, we gotta hey, look here, we gotta
Speaker 1: problem here, you know, because they ain't the record and
Speaker 1: they in the chatter and then in with him, dude
Speaker 1: was doing others and it was the ship with in
Speaker 1: motion where it was totally it was. It was it
Speaker 1: got an the motion where I could I couldn't really
Speaker 1: control it to a whole degree where I'm sitting up
Speaker 1: at the hotel and you know, the fucking Nico Hotel
Speaker 1: and my dudes came up there. You know, I gotta
Speaker 1: funk y'all got here, you know what needs of the
Speaker 1: role dude, And I'm like, uh, like yo, yo, ship,
Speaker 1: we stopped these niggas. So it's like eight of the
Speaker 1: most notorious motherfucker's you ever want to meet, drove that
Speaker 1: car there. They're like, we drove here. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: we can't do this. You know. Again, I'm coming from
Speaker 1: the streets and were gonna cup like them. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, hey man, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna kill this nigga. We're gonna kill this nigga,
Speaker 1: this ni I said, no, no, no, no no, we ain't
Speaker 1: killing nobody, you know. Now, well we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: let we're gonna touch somebody. Somebody up. So she hit
Speaker 1: the fan, you know at that point. And then how
Speaker 1: did you after that? Um? How did you? Like, we
Speaker 1: don't have to describe if anything happened, because you know
Speaker 1: we were positive, but how how did you eventually work
Speaker 1: that out? How we worked it out? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I ended up having a conversation with should We ended
Speaker 1: up talking, you know, and and then you at that time,
Speaker 1: I think the Bengos and somebody was playing Super Bowl
Speaker 1: down okay, and so I kind of invited them down.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, man, y'all come on down hang out
Speaker 1: with me, you know, as sweet in the Dolphin Stadium.
Speaker 1: And I was like, y'all be my guests, and we all,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to squats because I ain't on it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm leaving that, you feel me. So then
Speaker 1: they came down and we can't squass, you know. Now
Speaker 1: you also this is this is which is crazy. You
Speaker 1: also had words were run DMC. Yeah you must. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy like he was a promote. You would
Speaker 1: bring them down right to mine. Because you gotta realize,
Speaker 1: like I'm from New York. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I recently migrated, but we never heard this news between.
Speaker 1: You have the internet back then, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this would be a little industry things. And I
Speaker 1: remember hearing you saying somewhere like they were acting like
Speaker 1: pussies or something like that. DC. What happened, Let's describe that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that the whole thing with that
Speaker 1: was you know, I was again just like sales of promoting.
Speaker 1: You know, I was bringing all the hip out the
Speaker 1: Miami want to hip hop feel me? So running all
Speaker 1: it would come down and they would be you know,
Speaker 1: I paid them five hunting thousand dollars. Then you know
Speaker 1: they ended up there. Luke just said he paid MC
Speaker 1: five hunting for this is it doesn't matter legends. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: this is for all the new artists that think you're
Speaker 1: supposed to come out and get fifteen thousand in the
Speaker 1: first show. You know what I'm saying, Like, there's people
Speaker 1: who have legends have to start from somewhere. So they
Speaker 1: let me tell you we had we had Dr Juck
Speaker 1: Limits hide down. He ended up what fucking running motown
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, all those guys, I mean
Speaker 1: your name, and I would bring all those guys down here,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, even on the radio Miami
Speaker 1: weren't playing no hip hop, right, you feel me? So
Speaker 1: then I'm like, you know, I'm into it because I'm DJ,
Speaker 1: and I'm bringing dudes that I'm bringing people from everywhere,
Speaker 1: Callie New York, you know, Jessey j and all them dudes,
Speaker 1: man trying you name it, just bringing all them dudes
Speaker 1: and Run and they were acting funny or something like,
Speaker 1: Yeah they got brand new yeah called Port Mississippi. Right,
Speaker 1: and uh Leo Corn was there manager at the time,
Speaker 1: snipping copally he got the pictures in his office. Was
Speaker 1: when I was to be their road manager. I was snipper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Leo was the road manager, right and uh and
Speaker 1: so we are going Fort Mississippi, get ready to do
Speaker 1: the show. So they was like everybody was like ya,
Speaker 1: Run said, you can only have five minutes on stage.
Speaker 1: Run said, you're gonna have one sets of lights. Run said,
Speaker 1: you know your sound is gonna be a run running them.
Speaker 1: See said this, run see that. I'm like, how the
Speaker 1: funk We're gonna do a show with five minutes on
Speaker 1: stage and we got you know what I'm saying, we
Speaker 1: got at least four five songs Number one that one
Speaker 1: us on the show Norway because they had to have us.
Speaker 1: It was like these things from the South Wing really
Speaker 1: funking with them. Everybody mad that we got to do
Speaker 1: a show with these guys because we're selling so many
Speaker 1: records in the city to sell to sell, you know,
Speaker 1: the tickets. So it was just too much running, too
Speaker 1: much running again, I'm still got the street ship in
Speaker 1: my head. So then they, you know, I was like, man, funk,
Speaker 1: run them. So I told I told h I told
Speaker 1: Mr Mixing. I was like, Mr Mix, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Since we got Mr mix Yeah, since
Speaker 1: we got five minutes on stage, we're just gonna cut
Speaker 1: Peter Piper. So I went on and got the microphone,
Speaker 1: went on stage. These motherfucker's there, run them, see them say,
Speaker 1: we got but five minutes on stage, So what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do in our five minutes? We're gonna scratch stay
Speaker 1: ship Peterboy Py yeah, they ran them on stage and
Speaker 1: all that. You know, when they ran up on stage,
Speaker 1: then we was like, okay, let's go, let's do what
Speaker 1: we got to. The police ended up running up on stage.
Speaker 1: You know. Back then it was packing. But now now
Speaker 1: I know you're cool with all of these guys. Yeah, yeah, dudes,
Speaker 1: But but how do you like? I like? I like
Speaker 1: because you see why and and nowadays it's so hard
Speaker 1: to squash beef because you see how I know about
Speaker 1: you know that I know about that. But that's because
Speaker 1: it wasn't on the blogs. That's because it wasn't on
Speaker 1: the internet, you know, on the bogs y'all still right now,
Speaker 1: So would you say it was still it was easy.
Speaker 1: It was easier to squash beef then, because I mean,
Speaker 1: it was easier if it was a real if you
Speaker 1: if you use a pussy, then it was gonna keep
Speaker 1: on you. And then you don't have the fans instigating
Speaker 1: on Twitter that ship. Yeah, like they just had Drake
Speaker 1: fans just ran up on Joe Buttons ship is real.
Speaker 1: Like you see that they ran up with Joe Button's
Speaker 1: house and they got they got beef and one of
Speaker 1: his fans just running up on him like, this is
Speaker 1: this is a totally fund up world. Your glass of
Speaker 1: this business? You're not. So he's out of the business.
Speaker 1: Are you me out of the business? Well, when you
Speaker 1: got catalog selling, that's right. Well yeah, keep me on
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I stay on the roof. So now before
Speaker 1: we get to the money of my favorite jay Z
Speaker 1: and the views, ever, what's with you? We're gonna be
Speaker 1: to that he wrote this book, right? What was that like?
Speaker 1: Inspired by? How many games? How many years have you
Speaker 1: been in this game? Oh? Man, you didn't You got
Speaker 1: draw another Prime eight five the label Star, which would
Speaker 1: be the first? Would you be the first black owned
Speaker 1: independent hipopalysis. Let's make some voice for that. I relaxed.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know. I've always told people. I
Speaker 1: was like, this gotta be one of the first presses.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what I said. This was
Speaker 1: one of the first presses. Oh hold on made my
Speaker 1: mom mind for me because I couldn't get out to
Speaker 1: you now that when I made about me that when
Speaker 1: I see this, it says Lou Skywalker and the two
Speaker 1: Live Crew, Well, you always like to produce it, and
Speaker 1: he was always like the main attraction, all pretty pretty much.
Speaker 1: Uh it was it was more I was more like
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to be in the group, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But then it was more like,
Speaker 1: all right, I need to be in the group. Just
Speaker 1: this ship is a little you know, playing we gotta
Speaker 1: have a little bit of you already started prior to them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a DJ. My DJ name was Okay. And
Speaker 1: then how did you meet well bringing him down doing
Speaker 1: the concert? Oh they're not from Miami. No, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we just went all three Well, Fresh Kid Ice is
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, Brother Markets is from Rochester, and Mr Mixes
Speaker 1: from San Bernadine. I knew for service to mix was
Speaker 1: like when I was watching those videos, I was like
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I was born in seventy seven,
Speaker 1: so what Yeah, that had to be like eight eighty seven,
Speaker 1: so I have been ten years old watching that ship.
Speaker 1: Like Miami is the place there was a group already
Speaker 1: like they were doing something because of the military they
Speaker 1: met her something or in l there was in the military. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Markes and uh and Fresh Kid I was in the
Speaker 1: military in California. And then of the other original member
Speaker 1: was your in v line. He was in the group.
Speaker 1: He was the one on the flip side of beb
Speaker 1: I was doing the contract. So we got to celebrate
Speaker 1: your your book right now, come on, have a drink, man,
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you gotta have a drink. Hulu Man,
Speaker 1: we got the right fact. You know, you know, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: made all my record. You know what's up. You know
Speaker 1: you know he's born to raised from Miami with Miami.
Speaker 1: The people know that you want to Miami and you
Speaker 1: have been hands down one of the most highly requested
Speaker 1: guests because you know what I'm saying, because of all
Speaker 1: your history. So we're gonna celebrate some Look, you don't
Speaker 1: play conk. We got just coming up. We got boss
Speaker 1: coming up. But yeah, I just want to be admitt
Speaker 1: inter you say thank you so much because so many
Speaker 1: people have requested, because I am not like one of
Speaker 1: them guys that want to come to a town and
Speaker 1: don't get back from the town and don't you know
Speaker 1: help And we're gonna get to that phonell um. But
Speaker 1: because let me know what, right now, we'll do it
Speaker 1: right now, because I remember you saying that he was
Speaker 1: he was um. It was like some type of screpancy
Speaker 1: with like a Drake or Wayne, and I believe a
Speaker 1: baby or something, and you said something that was that
Speaker 1: was that was that was real, real powerful to me.
Speaker 1: You said, you guys come out here, you smoke our drugs,
Speaker 1: you funk all women, and he don't give nothing back
Speaker 1: to us. And he let me tell you something. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't nobody thro and Miami, I said, coming
Speaker 1: out of that, I got them, You got me in
Speaker 1: bae out of that. But you can look at stupid,
Speaker 1: said n down. I know what you mean. I know
Speaker 1: what you meant. And so is that how you feel
Speaker 1: like the Miami has to have this pride in order
Speaker 1: for you guys to move forward? Yeah? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it's you know, my thing. When I made
Speaker 1: the statement I did it in my column that I
Speaker 1: did many New times. It was more down the lines
Speaker 1: of if you move here and feel me, you know,
Speaker 1: then you need to get back to the community. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, and not only this community, anywhere around the
Speaker 1: country because you know, back in the days when we
Speaker 1: was doing shit, you know, on a regular basis, you know,
Speaker 1: we all we knew we had to get back. I
Speaker 1: looked at every hip hop artist as a representative of
Speaker 1: the the city. You know, when when when the world
Speaker 1: came out. You know what c do you rep? You
Speaker 1: know you got repping. You know the guys over there,
Speaker 1: you know there James Repping, you know, uh, Houston. You
Speaker 1: know you had guys repping everywhere. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: they were giving back to the community. So if you
Speaker 1: live here, then if you move here, what you're finding, right,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a that's an excellent thing. But you know,
Speaker 1: go and read the FU Book to some kids. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now, you're you're a citizen of Miami.
Speaker 1: You don't say South Beat. Yeah, I don't say that
Speaker 1: that's most over town. Go to Kenya any find a
Speaker 1: little program that you that's very true because um and
Speaker 1: then and then I remember when that statement had came out,
Speaker 1: and then nobody said nothing. But then Drake said something.
Speaker 1: And then he moved though because dra was living here.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because he said tell him a little too,
Speaker 1: like a more later he was gone, like it was
Speaker 1: doing that on that was just I don't know, just
Speaker 1: like like like I heard Jack say that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I want to see and then all I
Speaker 1: was saying he was in California, and I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Drake is a nice guy. Yeah, you didn't
Speaker 1: take it. You you understood I didn't. I understood it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, I like I like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I like direct shots, you know, indirect shots. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't subliminal. So you know that to me, that wasn't
Speaker 1: a direct shot that it was more like, oh, I'm here.
Speaker 1: You should have mentioned me an art. You know, I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I took it, if I took a
Speaker 1: direct shot, did not? So, now what's your relationship with
Speaker 1: pup Daddy? Like, because you guys come from my man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like like my little son, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm got the water, damn foul guy.
Speaker 1: Cat do American friends? My friend Mr Lee get to
Speaker 1: have anything? My brother nobody bunk some water. This this's
Speaker 1: my friend fat Joe's uh vodka. Look at Joe got about.
Speaker 1: Let's bring that overhead, lean back. That's what it should
Speaker 1: be called. Nice bottle should be being right right up
Speaker 1: all the way up. So now uncle Loutle, you here,
Speaker 1: you here, this, these these these children nowadays, what music
Speaker 1: do you like? Sit back and of a new artist
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what I funk with that? Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm all over the place. I mean when
Speaker 1: it comes to music, you know, I mean I listen
Speaker 1: to Jay Cole. I mean I listen, don't you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Long as the guy straight, I listen to.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If it's if he you know,
Speaker 1: funny style, if he's different, I don't listen to it
Speaker 1: funny style, Okay, Like yeah, honestly I called it so
Speaker 1: but you know, I listen up. You know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I love music, you know, and you know I love
Speaker 1: good music. I love interesting music. You feel me like, Okay,
Speaker 1: damn that ship that was different? You know, man, I
Speaker 1: like that beat. I don't like if I hear the
Speaker 1: same beat, yeah, I'm going to I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: an whole bunch of ship with the same beat right now.
Speaker 1: So I don't really vibe with you know, I listen
Speaker 1: to some Chill. I listen um some fucking Drake, and
Speaker 1: I listened to some you know, I'm a jay Z fan. Anything.
Speaker 1: Were there any DJ in Miami that inspired you that
Speaker 1: you looked up like I know that. Yeah, yeah, Franky
Speaker 1: Holler would inspire me. I mean, he you know, everything
Speaker 1: that he did, breaking records because the way that Miami
Speaker 1: DJ spun like the ghetto style DJ, Sugar Health DJ
Speaker 1: jam Pony expressed they from Tampa really right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know where they're from. They were like we never
Speaker 1: really considered them as DJ's because it was more like
Speaker 1: the first studio DJ. But if you're DJ in Miami,
Speaker 1: you set your fucking speakers up and you got in
Speaker 1: the battle and you had to go ahead the head
Speaker 1: with another group and if you can survive that ship,
Speaker 1: you're good. So Jam Pony was always doing that in
Speaker 1: the concert, which I liked this stuff and all that,
Speaker 1: but they were in the conset doing the definitely Sugar
Speaker 1: Health DJ's sugar here yea, yeah, all the wards that
Speaker 1: was got uncle our stories, old stories. Oh god, that
Speaker 1: was good dude. I like that was a good d
Speaker 1: a studio one a three, And he was just such
Speaker 1: a good humble Alice like Alice like my other little son.
Speaker 1: You know. I love that dude to death, God blessing.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, all is how good?
Speaker 1: You know, how al You know, my last time talking
Speaker 1: to Hell he was like Luke, you know, his whole
Speaker 1: conversation and basically down the same lines too. You know, man,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of dudes, right, Man, You're the
Speaker 1: only one can pretty much holding ship down and get
Speaker 1: the respect because a lot of a lot of these
Speaker 1: other artists and a lot of these other companies doing
Speaker 1: a lot of selling out. You know, you need to
Speaker 1: hold this ship down so people can't, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: still give the respecting. Probably two weeks after day that,
Speaker 1: because I remember I met Al for a second and
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna shut me down because this
Speaker 1: is when I'm coming up. Yeah, rest in peace. And
Speaker 1: I met him at Student one of three weeks to
Speaker 1: go and open up for shows out there, um, And
Speaker 1: I remember I brought him a record. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: typical record. I thought he would like it. You know,
Speaker 1: he was on some straight boom back hip hop ship.
Speaker 1: But we're wrapped in Miami and he said to me,
Speaker 1: as long as you rapp in the crib, I'm working
Speaker 1: with it. And I never forget that from him. He
Speaker 1: was by man. I respect that. Man. I came out
Speaker 1: here and learned earlier. Do you know that? You know
Speaker 1: tell us I want to know the Griff story too,
Speaker 1: because great kids, Griff from Public Enemy. You gotta beat
Speaker 1: them to you. Okay, okay, put me on group. I
Speaker 1: mean the group story. I mean Griffath just got kicked
Speaker 1: out of Public Enemy the Jewish Comicy, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, I like Griff, you know, as a person
Speaker 1: because I got to be Griff, you know, because that
Speaker 1: was a whole. Another movie was in Savannah, Georgia, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know Public Enemy, yead just just uh just uh
Speaker 1: this manager another you know, fun Miami Funk this that
Speaker 1: got five minutes on stage ship and I'm like this
Speaker 1: don't look right. Public Enemy got a little white manager.
Speaker 1: You don't talking ship like this, and I'm like, fight
Speaker 1: the problem and white manager. Yeah, yeah, I am beating
Speaker 1: this motherfucker up. And then he comes like yo, yo,
Speaker 1: come on. So many of them became real good friends
Speaker 1: at the time, and so then they ended up, you know,
Speaker 1: some kind of way. He ended up getting out of
Speaker 1: the group for whatever, you know, the comments was, and
Speaker 1: then you know, and the group ended up coming. He
Speaker 1: had he had a group. Uh he was working with Society.
Speaker 1: Society came he came down and then it was like, look, man,
Speaker 1: you know, explained to me what happened, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, man, I look out for you.
Speaker 1: I'll put you one like that was just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because anybody was nobody. He was blackballed, like yeah, and
Speaker 1: he gave him a home and you signed him on something.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's what I meant right out. I make
Speaker 1: some noise for looking. So I heard you say this
Speaker 1: man's name earlier. I also said his man name earlier.
Speaker 1: But one of the funniest interviews I ever seen is
Speaker 1: is that that's that's Miami or what's that a Lanta?
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was too bitches. One was
Speaker 1: eating a bit shout and Jamee was trying jay Z
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He was trying to be cool because
Speaker 1: he's just a cool character. This is my man, spoke
Speaker 1: to him this morning. He's a cool character standing on
Speaker 1: us right now. He's not. It's a cool character. But
Speaker 1: when I looked at that interview, yes's coming out of
Speaker 1: my eyes because he's trying to be cool. But they're
Speaker 1: really eating each other out, like this is not you
Speaker 1: can tell, like you know, when they'd be like they
Speaker 1: got the letter suck. No, he's just doing it for
Speaker 1: around and James standing there. Luke Luke forward. He like
Speaker 1: he would tell Luis is nothing faded from Luke, but
Speaker 1: Jay is like I won't see sweat coming down, like
Speaker 1: I've never seen Jay like that. Like he was, yeah, this, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I used to do. I mean, god, I
Speaker 1: used to do. I created this show called Luke's Peep Ship.
Speaker 1: Wasn't this a second called Captain Chest because this wasn't
Speaker 1: Captain Dick secondmented something like that. So I would, you know,
Speaker 1: what I would do in the show? You know, it
Speaker 1: actually came on Action pay per view, which was by
Speaker 1: BT you feel me? So what we would do to
Speaker 1: take all the you know, the club version of the
Speaker 1: videos to put it on the air. So I would
Speaker 1: do a show and I would interview different artists right now, Kim,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, yeah, you're talking about sucking dicks and
Speaker 1: all that. So I would have a big orgy right
Speaker 1: in the background. I'm just I'm really just working with
Speaker 1: the artists, you know. And then he did so put
Speaker 1: it in your mouth. Yeah, I had a chick like, okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead and suck like yo yo yo, just had
Speaker 1: you really ain't on it. I'm really like my whole
Speaker 1: the whole thing was y'all think it's making these records,
Speaker 1: but I want to see you really about that, So
Speaker 1: I would create the whole scene about what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, and if you're looking like no, that let
Speaker 1: me know that you was what we just had let
Speaker 1: on here. He must have took that from you, he
Speaker 1: said that, let me tell you, Let me tell you
Speaker 1: during how can I be down write the convention? He
Speaker 1: had a boat party that that was going on, and
Speaker 1: everybody knew we had to be on that boat party
Speaker 1: and we all would get on. I think it was
Speaker 1: at bay side. We would die that dog, right, so
Speaker 1: were some of my dogs. And here we went on it.
Speaker 1: You get on the boat. It was calm for a second.
Speaker 1: As soon as that motherfucker took off. Luke got on
Speaker 1: the mic and strippers came out. Chick sitting on forts
Speaker 1: and the craziest ship in the world. Man. We asked,
Speaker 1: we asked questions, Oh no, this is what was all
Speaker 1: our adverts. But this is where he sucks us up
Speaker 1: right now? How many? How many? How many grandmothers out there? Right?
Speaker 1: This is a different type of different question because you know,
Speaker 1: you slip, you were different questions, different questions. It's maybe
Speaker 1: grandmother's right now, they might be grandmother's because you know,
Speaker 1: you look at the rude saying it might be one
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, you're ready, Max. You gotta listen, man,
Speaker 1: you're a little bit ready. Maxwell, maybe, but a little
Speaker 1: because back then y'all didn't really have rubbers or rubbers
Speaker 1: wasn't really pop were you acting saying it wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't disease. It wasn't disease. You're nasking only. But listen,
Speaker 1: when I look at your brands, you know she got
Speaker 1: dry the rubbers. Maybe they don't have because I watched
Speaker 1: your videos and you ain't. You ain't have ugly bitches.
Speaker 1: They don't know this would make difference, like you would
Speaker 1: get bitches to get legged. But if they're if they're
Speaker 1: already tools, they already ones with low self esteem. It's
Speaker 1: easy to get hot in that kid. But when you
Speaker 1: got the five check league, you're gonna get naked. You're
Speaker 1: gonna gonna put You're gonna put the baby dollar in
Speaker 1: your puss, and I want to see you every right,
Speaker 1: put put rself over you gotta call you over right,
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did that ship one night and
Speaker 1: you out of my man. You know this ship maybe
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, all the stuff that you
Speaker 1: all like, you will be locked up nowadays. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean back the worse I got locked them.
Speaker 1: But no, what I'm saying is you like but um,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is nowadays that's so coarse. It's like
Speaker 1: the NBA, like you got something called flocking and all that.
Speaker 1: Like back then people were just hating each other and
Speaker 1: y'all were just sucking everywhere having the ball. But nowadays,
Speaker 1: well at least, but but how did that how did
Speaker 1: they even controversy start? Because what do they want to
Speaker 1: stop you, um from performing or from going in town
Speaker 1: the daughters. Let's make some noise, let's host you the
Speaker 1: book one more time, the book a little. So you
Speaker 1: let your record label informs you that you're about to
Speaker 1: have a case or recul label for me, he's the
Speaker 1: record label ship my bath, he first pressed that mother
Speaker 1: first black label. That that alone we gotta get back
Speaker 1: to because I want a segment on that alone. But
Speaker 1: so you you will see a letter because there's no
Speaker 1: emails back then, and they say you gotta facts. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right now, I got a letter. You know when
Speaker 1: the kids was getting it, like we had this, So
Speaker 1: throw the Dick y'all side the New York that one
Speaker 1: you got me. I like, when Miami getting together. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, excited. So how do you find out about this? No?
Speaker 1: You know some parents to p t A from Alabama,
Speaker 1: you know one of those. They hit me up, send
Speaker 1: me a letter. Was like, hey, look, you know the
Speaker 1: kids is getting this. Just throw the dick version of
Speaker 1: the song. And I was like, I ain't really trying
Speaker 1: to have kids get it. That's nothing. It's more of
Speaker 1: an adult thing. So then that's when I created the
Speaker 1: printo Advisory sticking that the record. I had that for
Speaker 1: a question. Let's just make listen. Listen, listen. People don't
Speaker 1: understand that that prot into advisory stick It's so important.
Speaker 1: If that part advisors stick up, wouldn't it existed, You
Speaker 1: wouldn't have I don't want to just half a hip hop.
Speaker 1: I'm about to start naming groups. But I gotta applaud
Speaker 1: you for that. I gotta applaud you for fighting for
Speaker 1: the right. But I want you to go through it
Speaker 1: for and for the people that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You read the Book of Luke as well, but I
Speaker 1: want you to go through it for our fast. We
Speaker 1: got dumb fast. They don't read, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so they read, I mean the things that like me
Speaker 1: don't read. So you get that letter. And then they
Speaker 1: stopped pushing the record, so well, I get the whatepp is?
Speaker 1: I get the letter because you gotta remember, at that
Speaker 1: period of time, I'm the only one doing explicive li
Speaker 1: it is on the rap backad and nobody doing no cussing,
Speaker 1: no nothing. So you get the letter. And then at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, I'm like, okay, well I
Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. So I started using the you know,
Speaker 1: the movie industry standards. I just took that ideal because
Speaker 1: I always know everything that I had to do it
Speaker 1: had to be coming sense and that would be already
Speaker 1: something that was already established. So that's when I came
Speaker 1: up with the ideal of NC seventeen. You feel me
Speaker 1: like seventeen under seventeen you can't look at the movie.
Speaker 1: So I took that R rating system and using the
Speaker 1: music system, and then I didn't alerted all the record
Speaker 1: stores that they're looking at him, gonna put a stick
Speaker 1: on here don't sell the kids this version, but selling
Speaker 1: the clean version did? I never know? It was no
Speaker 1: other hip hop rap, none of that. You made money
Speaker 1: off of the idea of the sticker to yourself, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should have did it. I should I should have
Speaker 1: pattent and should give away. You know, it was more
Speaker 1: about the light, you know, adopting the sticker. So if
Speaker 1: they adopted the sticker, then it was industry standard. Any
Speaker 1: other artists that would come to front behind me, you know,
Speaker 1: they would just put the stick on there. They were
Speaker 1: able to do the music that they want to do
Speaker 1: and say what they want to send the records. Now,
Speaker 1: when ce the laws Tucker was coming at Tupac. That
Speaker 1: was after you correct, when they was coming at Tupac
Speaker 1: and Snoop was so oh my god. But they had
Speaker 1: had the permantual advice there. There were just see that
Speaker 1: that was that. He was the first project that was
Speaker 1: yeah I did that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't
Speaker 1: he actually came up with it. That came out of
Speaker 1: the court stuff and everything. So you're saying that that
Speaker 1: just happened because you wanted to do it, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: that because I wanted to do that happened. I did
Speaker 1: that on my first record, first record, which was Throw
Speaker 1: the D and the answer was throw the P That
Speaker 1: was my first record doing with two live crew, And
Speaker 1: so I did that at that period of time, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost you know it was. It was
Speaker 1: a no brainer because at the same time, you got
Speaker 1: kids that couldn't buy cigarettes. So you look on the
Speaker 1: back stone already knew not to sell the kid's cigarette
Speaker 1: be or anything like that. So then you know, I
Speaker 1: just said, okay, let me put a stick on here
Speaker 1: that would let a kirk know because I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1: You know, there's little kids that work in the records too,
Speaker 1: so you put the you know, stick on there. Don't
Speaker 1: sell this happened now, this one happened. That one probably
Speaker 1: did you No, I can tell you right now. I
Speaker 1: couldn't buy it. I told my mom this is like
Speaker 1: some really good music. There were a hold a lot
Speaker 1: of record that went out again that didn't have to
Speaker 1: stick because all this what I'm changing over these new
Speaker 1: pressings will go out with the stick on. Now, did
Speaker 1: you have the ideas for the video as you was recorded?
Speaker 1: You knew that you're gonna have button and bitches. You
Speaker 1: knew that. You know that. I mean the whole thing
Speaker 1: with that. You know, I looked at everything because again,
Speaker 1: you don't wanna hip hop junkie, you feel me. So
Speaker 1: I'm coming from bringing you know, historic hip hop artists
Speaker 1: like Divining Sound, you name it, t Rock, all these
Speaker 1: all these guys down here. So I'm like, I'm from Miami.
Speaker 1: You know. I looked at a lot of people. You know,
Speaker 1: don't disrespect the iced tea and a whole lot of
Speaker 1: these other guys. They were from other places, but they
Speaker 1: want to be like New York. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I respect New York, love New y'all to death. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm about, where are you from?
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta you know, rep your CD. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to show my city. This is what we do.
Speaker 1: You know, we walk around, have naked we got beaches,
Speaker 1: we got all the while ship going on. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to show that, you know, part of what we're about,
Speaker 1: you know, how we living As far as the hip
Speaker 1: hop scene. I drove down Miami Beach the other day, man,
Speaker 1: and I was just driving down and it was nothing
Speaker 1: behalf naked chicks here, I said, anywhere else in the world.
Speaker 1: I would call that bit of slut right here because
Speaker 1: normal was motherfucking tire man. Let's go make some noise
Speaker 1: from MIAMIB and half Baggage. Let me tell you see.
Speaker 1: You see this club right here, the pack Jam, that's
Speaker 1: like a ride of passage days to Minami like like
Speaker 1: we were, we were kindle boys, and was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta go to pack Jam just to prove that we
Speaker 1: are getting robbed in pack Jam. Oh yeah, you get
Speaker 1: hip and he had his clubs never a good hip
Speaker 1: hop club. Let's people get robbed in there? You jam?
Speaker 1: You did? Oh that game was crazy. That dam was crazy.
Speaker 1: We was young just going in there and then girls
Speaker 1: getting button egg and we're like, oh ship pag Jam
Speaker 1: was like the rear parent in New York. So now
Speaker 1: they're trying to ban your records and then you go
Speaker 1: even crazier with the videos because you single handedly because
Speaker 1: of you, the shows like beat, I think you created
Speaker 1: YouTube like mort more so than uh, you know video
Speaker 1: the jukebox, well box box, but they were showing guns.
Speaker 1: You were showing that, like you know, there was that,
Speaker 1: but I think that single hand and that single handy
Speaker 1: transferred to YouTube because people were saying, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: we can't watch it here, then we want to watch
Speaker 1: it somewhere else. And I think, like in a little
Speaker 1: way YouTube bowing you somebody, let's makes a noise, We're
Speaker 1: gonna start you just what I'm doing, deal with just
Speaker 1: think about it. Like and then BT jams they had
Speaker 1: had transferred to B T Jam they hated me. Why
Speaker 1: because they couldn't play a record, or well because I
Speaker 1: was pushing the envelope over sexually intriguing it was. It
Speaker 1: was really backed by the whole gospel side of BT
Speaker 1: as well, Like it seemed like they would be well,
Speaker 1: I mean back back then, you know, I mean back
Speaker 1: then black people were very very conservative. The ship that
Speaker 1: I was doing was unheard. You know what, I had
Speaker 1: every hip hop artists hating. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you had to getting plays and ship. They would get
Speaker 1: on VT. They would do shows where the interview guys
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, do you like this to love
Speaker 1: proof motherfucker's in this uncle loo and not funk them.
Speaker 1: I don't like them. That ain't hip hop. They ain't
Speaker 1: ship there. Then you know they would do that, you know,
Speaker 1: so we would be pushing the envelope through the video jukebox,
Speaker 1: you know, and be like, Okay, why you ain't playing
Speaker 1: this ship and they will be losing ratings and people
Speaker 1: will be looking at the box. So it became a big,
Speaker 1: real beef. And then that's when I ended up doing
Speaker 1: the show with Bob Johnson at the station. But everybody
Speaker 1: else still hated me. You know, the people that there
Speaker 1: right now, who was still there right now, they were
Speaker 1: there back then. They still hate my ass to this
Speaker 1: fucking day because I pushed the envelope so hard that
Speaker 1: you know, they had to change their were program. People
Speaker 1: just didn't understand Miami especially No I mean it was
Speaker 1: motherfucker's from pr Illinois. They're setting up there like what
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, they had a real problem
Speaker 1: with what we're doing. But let me tell you, I
Speaker 1: don't know who those people are, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you help my childhood. I got a right to the birthdays.
Speaker 1: So that was a good old day. That was a
Speaker 1: good old day. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just sitting back
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Speaker 1: Then you're gonna talk about Biggie and Luke. Oh that's right,
Speaker 1: Big Yeah, y'all had you have befat first? No no
Speaker 1: no no no no no um and and yeah that's
Speaker 1: that's my dog right all right, big man, Big, that's
Speaker 1: my guy. What happened? How did your link up with?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know ship I brought him down to
Speaker 1: do a show. You know, it was Super Weekend and
Speaker 1: then you know he came. He was like you know
Speaker 1: him Julie Mafia and know all that was like Big
Speaker 1: was like, okay, man, I'm doing your pack jam the
Speaker 1: big one. The second one was around the corner. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't gonna do that, motherfucker. Lets
Speaker 1: you come because pat jam here was what we called
Speaker 1: it was Apolo South. They would go up in there
Speaker 1: and I artists going there and there you looking like
Speaker 1: this at your ass. You know, motherfucker, you better get
Speaker 1: to the song. You know, we really you know, it
Speaker 1: was the hardest order of the sound man. You have
Speaker 1: a dirty guy like who came out like the crowd
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I ain't doing that, motherfucker. Lets you
Speaker 1: let you come up in there? And so many him.
Speaker 1: You know, we ended up linking up that weekend and
Speaker 1: we was friends forever. I'm and he uh, he would
Speaker 1: tell me stories about you know him him being a
Speaker 1: big fan of Poison Clan. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He told me he was like, man, this fucking JT money,
Speaker 1: you know. I you know, before I got into business,
Speaker 1: I got all his ship. So it was like damn,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm looking at him like. He
Speaker 1: was like, nah, man, that was my dude. There, that's
Speaker 1: my dude. And so many him hit it off. Every
Speaker 1: time you come down. I go to New York, I
Speaker 1: would hang out with him and uh we end up
Speaker 1: doing a record together. And he wasn't there with a right.
Speaker 1: I was in l A. Actually I was in the
Speaker 1: studio doing I was supposed to link up with him.
Speaker 1: Men uh men stupid was in the students think so
Speaker 1: yeah when they ended up when they told us about him,
Speaker 1: did then you know, we were sitting in the studio
Speaker 1: and I think he said in a purpose club. He
Speaker 1: was supposed to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: supposed to go to another party that was at a
Speaker 1: party we were recording, and uh that we were supposed
Speaker 1: to go link up after God, God bless Big Man,
Speaker 1: God bless Junior Mafia. You know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: did you ever meet tupac Oh? Park was? No, that
Speaker 1: was my guy. Let's break out some let now the
Speaker 1: bitches involved. Part was that was another one of my
Speaker 1: little son. Okay, let's make yeah. Part would part would
Speaker 1: come down? You know you hang out? Park was like
Speaker 1: George Jefferson looking at Jepson on the on the Jempson,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker just sit in the car and talk talk
Speaker 1: talk talk talk. I mean we would be on the
Speaker 1: road together, we see each other. You would be in
Speaker 1: my room. I'm sitting there, land down and sleep. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker still talking. God damn. You know what I heard
Speaker 1: Every story there was, but that was part with my dude,
Speaker 1: that's my nigger. That's so. Let me ask you because
Speaker 1: it had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you
Speaker 1: ran Miami after especially all the termorial the beat said,
Speaker 1: everybody everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But
Speaker 1: now this East coast West Coast war happens, right, It's
Speaker 1: in the middle. You're cool with both sides. Was it like,
Speaker 1: did it ever feel weird to you because Miami is
Speaker 1: a vacation place? Were godless regardless, but now they vacation
Speaker 1: and they all got your number. Was there ever an
Speaker 1: instance where like some East Coast dudes was out here,
Speaker 1: some West Coast dudes text you and say, hey, I
Speaker 1: know the text wasn't back then, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or whatever the brick phone, yeah phone, the rail trap
Speaker 1: phone that DJ Calley was selling. So was you ever
Speaker 1: like put in the weird space because you do Miami
Speaker 1: is a new tube place? Yeah? I mean no, I
Speaker 1: mean what we always told dudes when they would come
Speaker 1: down here and look at man, you come down here
Speaker 1: lead the beef ship, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it was we was on that if you come down,
Speaker 1: you know, leave your your issues, you know, outside of that,
Speaker 1: because we don't need that kind of heat down here.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to you know, the police
Speaker 1: know that coming all right, they we didn't want to
Speaker 1: know the hip hop police down here. We need none
Speaker 1: of that kind of ship. So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: me working with the police and like we need that
Speaker 1: kind of heat, like, hey, look, no, you an't gotta
Speaker 1: worry about it because when they had that, how can
Speaker 1: it be down? And there was a lot of yeah,
Speaker 1: ship was gonna get crazy, you know that. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: don't come down there with the shoot. Heavy deal was
Speaker 1: there was a shoot. I was heavy. He was involved,
Speaker 1: like he he wasn't shooting, but he was. Now, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, you both knowing Pocket and Big, there's very
Speaker 1: few people who know Pocket and Big. There's people who
Speaker 1: know Pop great, and then people who know Big a
Speaker 1: little bit, right, people who know Big a lot, people
Speaker 1: who know Pop a little bit. But you know, on
Speaker 1: both with them, do you think they could have ever
Speaker 1: squashed that? Like, yeah, that would have been I mean
Speaker 1: on the Peep Show when Pop got out of jail.
Speaker 1: Then that went the interview Biggie, and then through the
Speaker 1: interviewing process of it, it was more like I was
Speaker 1: interviewing them that I was like, Nigga chilling funk out,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was more of me having a
Speaker 1: conversation with them about chilling funk out you too. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: need to make money. This ship is about money, y'all
Speaker 1: taking this too to the extreme, because you know, I
Speaker 1: was in St. Louis doing a show with Big and
Speaker 1: Big out there, you know, motherfucker's they wanted did this
Speaker 1: pop on stage? And they were boring. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm sitting up there like you know, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, the mediator of the whole ship, like and
Speaker 1: Big when this so then I when I interviewed, uh
Speaker 1: when when I interviewed pop Pop was just going crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this girl and did
Speaker 1: this and and then that and all this, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: so when the interview over there, look at man, you
Speaker 1: need to chill the funk out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, so many of them had you know, we
Speaker 1: could talk because I know him before he linked up
Speaker 1: with you know, with the Death Row dudes. I know
Speaker 1: him when he was with you to Underground. Know, so
Speaker 1: I noticed young dude, he you know, on some black
Speaker 1: power ship. You know, I know where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: So you know, you ain't on what you you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you change? What are you doing? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're you on that you know,
Speaker 1: on that black man ship with you, which is I
Speaker 1: know how that's how you raised you always on that
Speaker 1: you don't know, do nothing other black man. So, you know,
Speaker 1: we had that conversation and you know, I want to
Speaker 1: go interview Biggie Big was say one word about you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big One talk big you know big ones say nothing.
Speaker 1: It was like nine nine, you know, he just kept
Speaker 1: it like, uh, kept it like really one hundred. So
Speaker 1: it was it was they were if they were gonna talk,
Speaker 1: you know, after me. After I had the conversation with
Speaker 1: both of them, you know, they were gonna talk. And
Speaker 1: then for some reason happened. You new pop pre Death? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then what's that right? Well was very which which
Speaker 1: park you related to more? The park called before before Death,
Speaker 1: the Underground. It's all like it's almost like two different people,
Speaker 1: total person to different people totally. Man, I can relate.
Speaker 1: I'm a Gemini, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, young dude, you know, hanging out with with
Speaker 1: a creol people, then you conform into that crew. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why always, you know, when I'm working with kids,
Speaker 1: I tell kids, don't be no followable, you know, and
Speaker 1: the back of my mind I'm thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the soldiers who did like you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: you gotta be your old man. You can't get caught
Speaker 1: up in you know, the ship somebody else trying. You
Speaker 1: think Park was following though in that sense you do.
Speaker 1: You don't think I think he had a plan to
Speaker 1: get out of that situation or change the trajectory of
Speaker 1: what he was trying to do. That's what everybody says.
Speaker 1: That least, well, when you when you when you when
Speaker 1: you want some real black man ship like Brenda got
Speaker 1: a baby, and then you go overhead not not exact
Speaker 1: gonna bring the I mean he was deep. He was deep.
Speaker 1: He was on some real black man ship, you know,
Speaker 1: black power black like this. He was on some deep
Speaker 1: black man And then so now you get linked up
Speaker 1: with this crew on that on some different ship, then
Speaker 1: you conformed to be like that. You feel me? So
Speaker 1: I knew him before that. You know, this young man
Speaker 1: was just trying to get on, trying to get this
Speaker 1: music here, trying to do the right thing. I'm on
Speaker 1: some black man ship. He was more. He was more
Speaker 1: deeper than then publicandemy then Public m on that black
Speaker 1: man ship. So then I when you go and you
Speaker 1: linked with this crew here, then you kind of conformed
Speaker 1: to that and then now you got a whole crew
Speaker 1: of and you had already had beef for death Roll,
Speaker 1: so you knew what type of mind stick Yeah else,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, you know, it was you know, it
Speaker 1: was like on some you know, we tough guys ship.
Speaker 1: So then now you got this young guy that's really
Speaker 1: you know, just searching for a family. You bring him
Speaker 1: in and before you know it, he conform into you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, become a product of your environment. So
Speaker 1: he became a product of that environment. God makes noise
Speaker 1: when before we knew one of that. You have a
Speaker 1: hung out with Pun as well by him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how was how was it hanging out? Like yeah, pun
Speaker 1: Pun punting Joe? I remember, you know when I first
Speaker 1: met Joe, you know, I went to the went to
Speaker 1: the fucking club and uh the Puerto Rican club story,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. So I go to club. I
Speaker 1: go out with Joe Bunton Shi, Joe beat the ship
Speaker 1: out of some mother the club like this motherfucker is
Speaker 1: snapped up some motherfucker and I'm like, what the fund
Speaker 1: is this? Right? But but after that, I mean we
Speaker 1: end up doing a song together and uh and some
Speaker 1: of the other guys in the group. Now, now, Luke,
Speaker 1: you put on practically the whole Miami. If they from
Speaker 1: Miami and they have artists, they either got put on
Speaker 1: through you or they got put on through a protege
Speaker 1: at you, Like, how does that? Because what was it?
Speaker 1: Trick daddy scarred, he's scarlet? Yeah, I got Trick, came
Speaker 1: out of jail and he was staying with me. And
Speaker 1: how did you discover there in the streets running hard? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Discovered it. I have my own idea because I have
Speaker 1: a story. Because my story. We have something called drunk facts. Here.
Speaker 1: Drunk facts means that we off by either a year
Speaker 1: or a day or a name. So this is my
Speaker 1: drunk facts. I have artist named Garcia, and we did
Speaker 1: what was what was the club? Remember that club on
Speaker 1: South Beach Zen Remember that actually did the first hip
Speaker 1: hop party. They took me three months to convince the
Speaker 1: Turkish dudes to do it. So they did a freestyle
Speaker 1: bad and my artists battled Pit and my artist one
Speaker 1: against Pitt. But in my mind you was in the
Speaker 1: background and he was like, Pits the one. Did you
Speaker 1: discover him there? Or am I completely that? Drunk facts? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: drunk the good thing about drunk facts. People like, that's
Speaker 1: drunk facts, and it means that's right drunk fast. And
Speaker 1: remember when Pitt had the corporate Brady was rapping like dragon.
Speaker 1: So Pitple comes up. How do you make what I mean?
Speaker 1: I was chilling at the crib, you know, and how
Speaker 1: I looked that I looked, you know, because I know,
Speaker 1: hold on because when Miami people say crib, y'all mean
Speaker 1: two things. I noticed that right to my house you
Speaker 1: mean city. You also mean to the city. You also
Speaker 1: mean the city. So you're talking about the city of
Speaker 1: the house. I because you know you had to crib.
Speaker 1: I'm like, alright, cool, I just kid in your house
Speaker 1: the city. They say the city for years. That's why
Speaker 1: I was confused. Just now I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: to that house. So I mean, you know again, I
Speaker 1: just did this song with you know, um, we're punning
Speaker 1: all of them, you know, and everything. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, you know New York got Puerto Rican rapper,
Speaker 1: Back Joe and Big Pun, you know all that, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm from Miami. I won't be complete
Speaker 1: if I don't find a Cuban rapper. You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so I didn't say that. Okay. Then at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm looking at the sucking Census, and
Speaker 1: the Census says, you know, Latinos are the predominant race.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, ship, I gotta give me a you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so, you know, me being executive.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like still saying, I won't be complete
Speaker 1: if I don't find a Cuban artists somebody, because so
Speaker 1: many Cubans like my music and they you know you
Speaker 1: feel me. So I'm like, I need to do that.
Speaker 1: That that will make Luke Records. Yeah, and so so
Speaker 1: I ended up going on this mad search looking for him,
Speaker 1: and and they brought me a source Battle tape. You know,
Speaker 1: they were like, they showed me a source Battle tape
Speaker 1: with this guy on there wrapping. I was like, it
Speaker 1: was like this one from I was like, I want
Speaker 1: them Mona, that's not from Miami. I want you know,
Speaker 1: because the Cuban Yeah, from my So then when I
Speaker 1: looked at I like them now, I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, go find him and brought him Lollop song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They brought him to the to the to the studio,
Speaker 1: to the office and then uh, you know I'm on
Speaker 1: that vibe, Like I have a guy hang out with
Speaker 1: me for like a month before I really signed them
Speaker 1: up because I gotta know that number one, your original
Speaker 1: ain't we aren't doing the studios. Sho, don't get out
Speaker 1: with that. You're richinally who you write your own ship,
Speaker 1: and you got good vibes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You understand the game. So he was a real woman.
Speaker 1: That's and we got shot out Big Teacher as well.
Speaker 1: That's now Trick Daddy is um like one of the
Speaker 1: most phenomenal ah personalities hip hop. It like his no filter.
Speaker 1: It seems like like he could just get on. He
Speaker 1: literally spent on his computer the other day. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys see that. It's crazy and he's
Speaker 1: authentically like he's authentic and his Did you notice that
Speaker 1: with Trick because you know he makes great music, we
Speaker 1: already know that, but he's like, but personality sometimes with
Speaker 1: transcends the person I mean that that that's he has
Speaker 1: a record executive producer. I always look for authentic ship,
Speaker 1: Like if you listen to Age Time, the guys authentic voice,
Speaker 1: you know saying that if you here Trick talking outside
Speaker 1: in the bushes and not knowing who I did. You
Speaker 1: know that's him. You know all my artists that all
Speaker 1: j money all I'm at that. That was my thing.
Speaker 1: You know that I would do what I would be
Speaker 1: looking for in the artists. But Trick, the story was
Speaker 1: similar to the story that you thought was with Pitt.
Speaker 1: Trick was in. I had a battle contest, like a
Speaker 1: seven week battle whoever last the longest and win. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sign him up to Loop Records. And so that's
Speaker 1: Trick ended up winning the contest. You know, he battle
Speaker 1: battle one guy. You know his kidn't read, beat him,
Speaker 1: put him on the record before you know it in
Speaker 1: the story. But I mean his whole thing was you
Speaker 1: know again you got vibe with me. I'm we're riding
Speaker 1: to take you on the road, which is the same
Speaker 1: thing I did to Pitt. You know, I take him
Speaker 1: on the road with me in and put the ass
Speaker 1: out on stage and you know, throw them into five.
Speaker 1: You know, hates motherfucker. You know you ain't go one studio.
Speaker 1: That's age, you know, that's why they call it. You
Speaker 1: know you here, my boy, y'all. I went to the
Speaker 1: Luke School or Knox. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I
Speaker 1: mean I've gotta scribe. What is like you hazy like
Speaker 1: when you're in college, like like you gotta pay your dudes.
Speaker 1: Basically you gotta do point You gotta go through some
Speaker 1: ship you got. Yeah, I would be on the radio.
Speaker 1: I do a radio interview and be like, yo, bring
Speaker 1: to the city, bring the best rapper in town. If
Speaker 1: you if you battled to mother, I'm kicking his hand
Speaker 1: something bus And it's not just serious, it's not just artists.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, like he helped Khalid too, because Cali
Speaker 1: was on Mixed ninety six. But you know, like he
Speaker 1: said before we underground radio staying mixed on six, I
Speaker 1: was on point seven. We were right under Mix ninety
Speaker 1: six at one point in the same building, but we
Speaker 1: didn't have a like a straight up hip hop show
Speaker 1: in Miami. And he had his show on nine nine Jams.
Speaker 1: And you brought Khalid. If I'm wrong telling you start
Speaker 1: doing so basically I'm just like, why why isn't don't
Speaker 1: hear Luke coming to me? But you got to give
Speaker 1: him also credit for Calida's role. He definitely helped cand
Speaker 1: Like is there artists that ever got to a certain
Speaker 1: place and like he was disappointed in though just in
Speaker 1: and they're like, man, I thought I thought he would
Speaker 1: have kept it real. I thought he would have kept
Speaker 1: in contact with me. I thought he would, you know,
Speaker 1: like any type of disappointment, like well, you know when
Speaker 1: I when I listened to Callet Talk, he'd never make
Speaker 1: mention of the show what you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean we know it in Miami, don't in Miami.
Speaker 1: But if you ever if you ever listened to any
Speaker 1: interview that he's ever did, he never made mention of
Speaker 1: any of that that should be but the food and
Speaker 1: you exactly exactly. I mean, you know him being on
Speaker 1: the underground and you know, I'm hearing this again. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a discovery thing. I mean, this guy, by
Speaker 1: the way, fat this this this this energetic guy on
Speaker 1: the radio because he was originally from Orlando, or wasn't
Speaker 1: he from Yeah? It was. It was all over the
Speaker 1: place trying to find and say you heard him on
Speaker 1: the underground radio station six. I heard him on there,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you know, I wanted to see,
Speaker 1: you know, this this kid on the radio. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to see what he looked like. And I
Speaker 1: vibe and again. So I would go to the Madhouse,
Speaker 1: you know, they had the Madhouse Party and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, just chilled in there with Joey and check
Speaker 1: him out. And then before you know it, when I
Speaker 1: did the show, because Miami never had a mix show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so when uh you know, Suchra Hollywood came down for
Speaker 1: Orlando to take over the radio station, I was like,
Speaker 1: we didn't do a mix show, and he was like,
Speaker 1: well you do it for years is by the way,
Speaker 1: just so we can shoot out forgot like ninety seven problems.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I wanted to have a combination of
Speaker 1: everything this kids spinning you know here pop then okay,
Speaker 1: I'm spinning Miami, uh popa Keith and so sending kids
Speaker 1: spinning you know, reggae. And then I would have DJ
Speaker 1: ire come in and spend popped every night. And then
Speaker 1: so all these yeah, all these guys got jam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy to blew my mind. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: this is my way of putting them on. You know.
Speaker 1: So I did Luke Show on the radio every Friday.
Speaker 1: It would come on nine nine jams and a big show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's used to line up around the corner, you know
Speaker 1: at the station, you know, because I you know, I
Speaker 1: played on people mind, which you know, which was not
Speaker 1: hard to due because they already know I get bitches naked.
Speaker 1: If I said, oh yeah, we're live in the studio
Speaker 1: and that everybody naked and fucking was right now getting
Speaker 1: the sticks out, you know, and so everybody would leave that,
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, all those guys with personalities,
Speaker 1: and they were different personalities. So I would, you know,
Speaker 1: guys at night and the jam. They wanted me to
Speaker 1: fire Collet so many times. It was like he's too loud,
Speaker 1: he's too this, he's too dead, you know, and and
Speaker 1: I would I would actually they would be like fire him,
Speaker 1: and then I said, I ain't doing the show this,
Speaker 1: so it'd be like, okay, well we want you, so
Speaker 1: we gotta keep him, you know. And then I would
Speaker 1: app him up, you know, like he would be this
Speaker 1: O him the baddest teach in the world. So I
Speaker 1: would be like, yo, you're the best DJ. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: the bast j oh. So everybody else's bullshit, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And so you know, he would would I
Speaker 1: would push him into show that he definitely definitely well,
Speaker 1: I really when when I really met him when I
Speaker 1: was the first time I met him. You know, it's
Speaker 1: on one of my peak shows. It was he was
Speaker 1: with Fat Joe. He came to a party. Were had
Speaker 1: a super Bowl party and this young dude, you know,
Speaker 1: Arab guy. He's selling fucking hot phones. You know that
Speaker 1: was my first and kind of with him. He got
Speaker 1: the hot phones. You know, it's like you think his
Speaker 1: mom at the time was Palestinian terrorists dropping bombs. Like
Speaker 1: that's big up to Uncle Luke for talking about my
Speaker 1: college have bootleg phones? Does it? College? You got boots
Speaker 1: sales and all that ship now and waiting for you chaps. Listen, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: we knew you when you have bootleg phones. Come on,
Speaker 1: I know you do. He but you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're proud of him. I'm proud
Speaker 1: of because you know a lot of listeners can't see,
Speaker 1: but I looked at your face. There's no hate, no,
Speaker 1: don't hate. Disappointment don't mean hate. No, No, He's like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I could be I
Speaker 1: could be disappointed, doesn't mean I hate no way shape
Speaker 1: fact right now, I know I love what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I love that. You know that easy. I knew he
Speaker 1: was gonna be drivers. Yeah, yeah, d crazy man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can put him in the room and he'll make
Speaker 1: He'll make fucking anything out of something, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's just that creative, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I like what he's doing. Them happy, you know to
Speaker 1: see that. Okay, this young kid who was selling fucking
Speaker 1: bootleg phones is on the damn TV. So I said, there,
Speaker 1: you know you're doing you're doing commercials and ship right now,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's it's it's a good thing. But
Speaker 1: you know, the story should be told. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just you. You have to you have to let
Speaker 1: young people know that I ain't just start up here
Speaker 1: because I came from here and this the road, this
Speaker 1: is the path that I took. So you can actually
Speaker 1: the same thing exactly. You know, you give people, you know,
Speaker 1: you get people you know in their mind that they
Speaker 1: could do things to always tell me he should be
Speaker 1: like I would complain about something like he's like, I
Speaker 1: got this flight. You're gonna pick up fifth seen eighteen thousand,
Speaker 1: like you they ain't have first class. He used to
Speaker 1: be like I used to hold kick a pries Crates.
Speaker 1: I mean kidding plays crates going in and get your bucket,
Speaker 1: and like it's like remembering your beginning. It makes you better,
Speaker 1: makes you better, it makes you better. So I wanted.
Speaker 1: But that's the only person that you have a black
Speaker 1: disappointed at, like a little bit. That's like, that's just
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, I can see look at
Speaker 1: your face, you ain't hating at all. He was one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most of the artists, you know what I'm saying. Cool,
Speaker 1: you know, I was a little disappointed with Two Live Crew,
Speaker 1: A little disappointed when whatever be a reunion whatever two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen and club left, correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you was back from there. I mean, those
Speaker 1: guys are real, real, real talk to all the time,
Speaker 1: like we need to have them all together. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the he's doing. BB raised BB, but
Speaker 1: I think BB is taking you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was trying to do. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love BB to death as the sun, but exactly, but
Speaker 1: BB taking that money from over there, that's like taking
Speaker 1: money from hit whoa in my opinion, from over work. Well,
Speaker 1: the little Joe guy. Oh, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't know about Little Joe. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's going back. Yeah, bb you know, you know
Speaker 1: being here, you know, I'm like, if you're a desperate
Speaker 1: you can so Little Joe still involved? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those guys signed up to them. Oh ship, all those
Speaker 1: all those guys, all those guys have tried to go
Speaker 1: bankruptcy and then he went and bought them in bankruptcy.
Speaker 1: He owned all of them. So they can't do a
Speaker 1: reunion without going through him, asking him. And so for
Speaker 1: bb to be working for them, it's straight because he
Speaker 1: don't understand that the listeners aren't even understand Little Joe.
Speaker 1: Was they the distributors originally directly? Not at all? So
Speaker 1: how do they how do they own anything? Well, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, stolen car it no, no, no no. But
Speaker 1: for BBDB working for them, you know, that's not cool.
Speaker 1: They though I had no idea. So it's no beef
Speaker 1: with them, it's just beef with the guy that that well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean when you let some guy control you, I
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't matter with me. I mean, I'm twenty
Speaker 1: years not doing shows with them. I mean they you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a niker atletic mother control you used to
Speaker 1: put a sneaker as simple as that, you know, and
Speaker 1: let some dude don't matter control old this dude over there.
Speaker 1: It's person or just the late. But come, no, not
Speaker 1: a little about this big here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you gotta dudes that control you like that to
Speaker 1: the point where they tell you you can't, you know,
Speaker 1: go and do something for your fans and all that.
Speaker 1: That's the whole another movie. Wow, it took a weird
Speaker 1: pointed right now because I'm when I was when I
Speaker 1: when when you know people were requiring because at first,
Speaker 1: you know, they started saying two A live cool, and
Speaker 1: then I guess people, you know, we've only been doing
Speaker 1: this five months, right six we're going into it going
Speaker 1: in just six months. We've got the number one podcast
Speaker 1: makes a noise for us. I saw a notice like
Speaker 1: that when the fans knew. The fans is like, no,
Speaker 1: just go uncle, just get Uncle Luke, because it's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the Union. It's not gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: had no which we tried. We actually had aspirations of
Speaker 1: getting all y'all together and then and then yeah, that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. That's all I mean that's a old movie
Speaker 1: in itself. I mean, you know, the dudes are good dudes.
Speaker 1: But again, when when you're owned by this guy, when
Speaker 1: this guy paying all your bills and ship and he
Speaker 1: got your handcuffed and you're almost like a slave in
Speaker 1: my opinion, you know, they pretty much gotta do what
Speaker 1: dudes they do. That's crazy. No, no, Uncle Loup. This
Speaker 1: is a problem that I've had in the past. What
Speaker 1: I mean by that is I don't kind of like
Speaker 1: the respect of these young artists. I've been out since
Speaker 1: night seven and there's been a couple of artists just
Speaker 1: sample my records and they'll clear it through the proper things,
Speaker 1: or or they won't clear it to the here. You know,
Speaker 1: he already know what I'm going to because now I'm
Speaker 1: considered like O g like now. And the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, if I touched, you know, a Curtis blow
Speaker 1: a record, or I touched like if we come from
Speaker 1: the era, I'll call you listen, I'm doing this over.
Speaker 1: I'm sampling it because we all of the same nature. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: mothers just take your record, loop it, put it on iTunes,
Speaker 1: and by the time even if you have a problem
Speaker 1: with it, it's like so big. It makes you, it
Speaker 1: makes you look like, oh, you're mad because the record
Speaker 1: is sussessed. Know, I'm mad because the proper respect wasn't
Speaker 1: handed to me. You know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't even care about the finances. I
Speaker 1: just care about like if I made a record like
Speaker 1: I gotta record call. Sometimes it's about my father record
Speaker 1: he died, So it's about planning and my father and
Speaker 1: I literally made that record crying. And some of these
Speaker 1: artists take this record be like sometimes I want and
Speaker 1: they changed the whole concept. Sometimes I want to the bitch.
Speaker 1: Sometimes are you mad at every artist? Or you're mad
Speaker 1: at I'm mad even the young kid in his room
Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, I'm mad at him too. But I'm
Speaker 1: calling me because I don't call you. Know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's certain ways because certain records, certain records mean too
Speaker 1: much to me to let you funk with it. Like
Speaker 1: if I don't know you, like, I might not let you.
Speaker 1: You could be you could be a dude I've met before,
Speaker 1: so you won't take it as paying homage to you.
Speaker 1: If it's paying hommage. Sometimes it's not like what Gret
Speaker 1: just in what I can at least ship believe that
Speaker 1: that was paying hunt. But that's a different level. The
Speaker 1: kid in this room that's wrapping over your beat, but
Speaker 1: he needs to learn though the kid don't get ahold
Speaker 1: of you though Twitter everybody. But the thing is that,
Speaker 1: the thing is this, people need to learn. People need
Speaker 1: to learn that there was a there was a world
Speaker 1: that existed before you. If we just allowed a person
Speaker 1: to just come and just do some too a lout
Speaker 1: of cruel ship, and then they can take like he said,
Speaker 1: he said me so and they think they invented that
Speaker 1: that ship is a problem with history is no future.
Speaker 1: I feel like people, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: like we ain't trying to sue you all this. We
Speaker 1: ain't trying to but just come higher at me, get
Speaker 1: the proper respects. So I ain't never got to say
Speaker 1: something coming courtesies with you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: ain't never got to say something slick. But how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Because we went in we've been
Speaker 1: going down this. I clearly understand what you mean. You know,
Speaker 1: when you know when the guys did the pop that song, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally forgot. I mean, you know, mother fucker's did
Speaker 1: pop that never called me up. You know, they actually
Speaker 1: called me to do a video, but they never the video.
Speaker 1: They never let me hear the song. It was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're doing a video. We want you to come and
Speaker 1: be in the video. And I was like, what's song
Speaker 1: you been? What's on you? They never let me hear
Speaker 1: the song. It was like, come be in the video.
Speaker 1: We you know, the song is a big secret, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know whether it was surprise something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I never got deep into the conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's the same thing. Nobody never really called up
Speaker 1: and say, Yo, Luke, we're gonna do uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take your voice and put your voice on
Speaker 1: this song and we're gonna put this ship out. So
Speaker 1: you know, so I said something about it, you know,
Speaker 1: down those lines, and then it became, you know, almost
Speaker 1: like you look like the old old hater when you're
Speaker 1: the young man. The young man's game young man exactly.
Speaker 1: But and and and so I clearly understand what you
Speaker 1: what you what you mean by that? I mean, but
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys just don't know their history,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they sit back for one second
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, if I'm making here records, then if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the game for this amount of time,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some more young guys after after me.
Speaker 1: Do How would I feel if they take my ship
Speaker 1: and started wrapping my checause yeah, it's gonna get old.
Speaker 1: Keep living. If you are gonna get you, you are
Speaker 1: going to get old in the game and the young
Speaker 1: motherucker gonna come and they're gonna take your ship. How
Speaker 1: would you feel when they take your son and start,
Speaker 1: you know, rapping and using your hook and making that ship. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's an official s startists just did my record over
Speaker 1: see them at MTV and he gave it up. What up?
Speaker 1: I wanted to kill us, but we was in in
Speaker 1: TV offices and people called me because he was coming up.
Speaker 1: He ain't popping on mar Home. Won't say his name,
Speaker 1: so he was coming up his dream champ his name. No,
Speaker 1: that's cool, it's cool. It's cool because he's over. He was.
Speaker 1: I was saying his name, but you know, let's be
Speaker 1: over that nigger. And when I seen him, when I
Speaker 1: realized he not only he didn't even recognize me. So
Speaker 1: you were just doing records. There's no respect to that.
Speaker 1: I can't respect that news. Now. I'm not a hater.
Speaker 1: I'm not fucked up, you know what I'm saying. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, I was raised with respect.
Speaker 1: My mom's told me to pull out, to care for
Speaker 1: a woman. My mom told me to hold the door.
Speaker 1: My mom told my mom's told me manners. So I
Speaker 1: don't think. But that's why right now, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Guys, when you really think about the guys
Speaker 1: who are still in the business right now, the ones
Speaker 1: who have longevity, they have some sense of the history
Speaker 1: of the one hit wonders they go and they come
Speaker 1: all day because they don't understand the history and they
Speaker 1: ain't trying to learn the history. You know, if you
Speaker 1: know the history, you'll be around I mean had been
Speaker 1: around on the years and still making hit exactly. You
Speaker 1: know all those guys, I mean Wayne and all them, dude,
Speaker 1: you have to know the history. If you don't know
Speaker 1: the history and you're sitting there and when you make
Speaker 1: a statement like that, everybody, oh man, you tripping it
Speaker 1: all that. No, no, no, you don't pay how muche
Speaker 1: like that? You'll be in this business and outroom but
Speaker 1: but y'all talking to you specifically? Are you talking about
Speaker 1: two different things. There's the artist that puts out a
Speaker 1: single and he just jacks your beat and takes the
Speaker 1: record and puts out officially because I'm a mixtape. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying, there's the kid that anybody you could be.
Speaker 1: You run on other people's beats on my mixtape. It's
Speaker 1: not the same thing. Freestyle. Are you talking about We
Speaker 1: need to find that. I'm about redo your record. I
Speaker 1: ain't talking about album. I don't know. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: No problem with a person freestyle and mistake career. I
Speaker 1: do it. When you take my ship, throw it out,
Speaker 1: sell it, make a profit and didn't try to clear
Speaker 1: me like it ain't. And the thing about it is
Speaker 1: like money ain't everything. So most people will come back
Speaker 1: and offer you some running right, and it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: knowing that you don't I would have did it. Maybe
Speaker 1: you don't own that bet because of whatever. But they
Speaker 1: owe you as an individual, as an artist, they should
Speaker 1: pay homage to you. Yeah, that's what I want. My
Speaker 1: ship was worse than my ship was more like the
Speaker 1: first what I really heard about what it was. It
Speaker 1: was a fucking uncle, Luke uh Rick Brass and French Bontana.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the funk fresnth the f friend
Speaker 1: so heard? I like this motherfucker song. Who the fucking friends?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Z my song to so
Speaker 1: you know you know, but you know again you know
Speaker 1: that that you know people blew it up. Luke man
Speaker 1: that French ready to get this motherfucker. I'm like, nah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We ended up doing a show for b TO Awards
Speaker 1: and all that. You just did the show recently with
Speaker 1: d Max and Onix and my manager was out there
Speaker 1: ship like, man, I'm performing. I have to tell him
Speaker 1: to stop. Yeah, I love performing, you love I love Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like a hobby to me. Are not going, you know?
Speaker 1: And you know I don't do that kind of music
Speaker 1: where I just woke up and downstage smoking joining and
Speaker 1: talking strippers. What you want to know? They still we
Speaker 1: are regular dances. Excuse me, there's a differences that guerated
Speaker 1: they graduated the scrippers, now no no dancing on that.
Speaker 1: When they graduate dances, it's all out scrippers and they
Speaker 1: end up as dances. How how does it going? They
Speaker 1: saw that none is just start since dowadays. But you
Speaker 1: got sophisticated dance. Dance. Let's we're not into it. But
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you admitted interview, because you
Speaker 1: know why I single handedly sink that you know, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what call you Santiago my lass name. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just saw that, just throwing it out there, but
Speaker 1: I single handedly see you hold Miami down when Miami
Speaker 1: had problems with anybody. You stepped up. You wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't holding your tongue. You you you shape and mold
Speaker 1: what Miami is now. And I have to thank you
Speaker 1: as a person that now lives in Miami, born and
Speaker 1: raised in New York. But this is my second home.
Speaker 1: I've been out here, this is where the show is
Speaker 1: being taken. And we wanted it personally, I say, but
Speaker 1: we wanted to personally and just invite you here, let
Speaker 1: you know that this is your home. We got hen
Speaker 1: apprecially at one point two million people listening to us.
Speaker 1: I'm like average a million a week. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say like two or three people, but listen. So we're
Speaker 1: at the crib, at the crib, We at the crib
Speaker 1: the way they want to use it. And we want
Speaker 1: you to know that you can come here all the time,
Speaker 1: but continue in moving on, where do you see Miami
Speaker 1: going to as far as the music scene goes? As
Speaker 1: far as the music scene, I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's tough around here because radio stations don't support the
Speaker 1: little artists. You know what I'm saying. That's true. The
Speaker 1: underground is powerful. Isn't as it was as it used
Speaker 1: to be. You know, you got you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the DJ's on South Beach, you don't no disrespect that
Speaker 1: none of them ain't really playing no Miami music, you know.
Speaker 1: So so at the same time, you know, you got clubs, right,
Speaker 1: it's a totally different scene, you know if you you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm out, you know in the hood all
Speaker 1: the time, you know, at the parks and everything in
Speaker 1: the DJs played totally different music then what you is.
Speaker 1: It's it's the same thing, you know, like when I
Speaker 1: was when I came up. You know, the difference is
Speaker 1: I was able to take you know, songs like Peter
Speaker 1: Butter and Jelly, and because I was naturally known, I
Speaker 1: put it out. They become nationally know, you know, in
Speaker 1: that same beat that's going on around here. So you
Speaker 1: don't have the record companies in Miami that may have
Speaker 1: a national appeal. They're not going to get those artists
Speaker 1: and put them on and let people here real Miami music.
Speaker 1: You know, I could be doing I could be selling
Speaker 1: platinum Ahtown R and B album. But then I'll go
Speaker 1: find a treat daddy and he'll be spitting Miami sling.
Speaker 1: You feel me in He'll do his song and out
Speaker 1: then do me. I'm introducing the rest of the world
Speaker 1: to you. You don't have these artists, you know that
Speaker 1: from here doing that. You know the dudes who on,
Speaker 1: they ain't doing that, And then Miami does not have
Speaker 1: a sound anymore because everybody that's the biggest problem. And
Speaker 1: I tell a lot of these young dudes you know,
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, we had boom chat
Speaker 1: boom chat, you know what I'm saying. We had and
Speaker 1: then we had sling because to me, hip hop is slain.
Speaker 1: You know what these things you don't like. You lost
Speaker 1: when you said the crib you know, red Man lost
Speaker 1: when he said what's up? Dog was? And then you
Speaker 1: will be like what these nicks on my cousin blood
Speaker 1: and all that ship. So then you heard slain through
Speaker 1: the music right now. You know the the artists that
Speaker 1: are coming out of Miami. You hear Miami slain. What
Speaker 1: did you think about Mother Superior? Because I'm that's the
Speaker 1: era I'm from. I'm with that group. What did you
Speaker 1: think about her? Do you remember she wasn't getting You
Speaker 1: didn't give a fun Let's keep it, I don't that's
Speaker 1: my home. She they called it the literal the female
Speaker 1: nas And she was from Miami, she repped Miami. She
Speaker 1: was just on some lyrical ship. But look a little.
Speaker 1: But remember we got lad at her when she moved
Speaker 1: to New York, when she got her deal with Island,
Speaker 1: right right, I mean again, when you the question becomes
Speaker 1: and I try and tell these young dudes around you,
Speaker 1: you can't. You got to have a sound. Atlanta got
Speaker 1: a sound, New York got sound, California sound, and right
Speaker 1: now Miami don't have a sound. More on top of it,
Speaker 1: you ain't got guys putting guys on. So everybody trying
Speaker 1: to sound like sucking Atlanta. You know, And and when
Speaker 1: you you know nothing, you're saying lyrically, ain't really you know,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're saying, because I'm with kids
Speaker 1: every day. You gotta coach high school football. So I'm
Speaker 1: driving them home and they're having a whole conversation. I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm here in the conversation and they sling is
Speaker 1: totally different. You know what I'm saying. They call a
Speaker 1: fat girl a pepper again, you know, so just you
Speaker 1: like that. You know when I'm when I when I'm
Speaker 1: doing records, that would be a whole song, you know,
Speaker 1: the girls and be peppers in the lyrical content of
Speaker 1: a song, and then you would get the song in Chicago, Atlanta?
Speaker 1: What you know? What the what the is the pepper?
Speaker 1: This thing? I keeps saying. It's like like y'all always
Speaker 1: jet like as as the whole world when you So,
Speaker 1: my son comes in the other day and he's calling
Speaker 1: his little brothers a jet and I'm like, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? And then I come around these guys they
Speaker 1: start using it, and I'm like, I have to be killed,
Speaker 1: Like what then is my son calling ut? Like they
Speaker 1: just called him a younger dude. But like, and to
Speaker 1: me and to be that's always been hip hop. It
Speaker 1: was it was the ghetto blues. You know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about over here? You know when being was making
Speaker 1: the songs, oh ship, you know what I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: dudes in that line of making that song, okay, oh
Speaker 1: that's you know, so it was more intriguing as to
Speaker 1: what they're vibing and what they're talking about, as was
Speaker 1: the sling on top of it. So now when you
Speaker 1: have the guys coming from Miami or from Money, but
Speaker 1: you sound like pop that ain't Miami. So technically I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not no Miami artists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When when when when Trick said you don't know that nigga,
Speaker 1: you know, saying that's the Miami ship. So Trick is
Speaker 1: like the jay Z of Miami because he's lyrical and
Speaker 1: people don't give him that credit, but he's literally from
Speaker 1: cross Will be the jay Z. No, No, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you before that it's Trick. Trick is the jay Z
Speaker 1: of Miami. He's literally so nobody is connecting with Miami.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, None of the none of
Speaker 1: the artists. Because these artists, these young guys are really lost.
Speaker 1: I mean like I'll go to the radio station, fucking
Speaker 1: go in on the p D and the m D.
Speaker 1: Why are you playing the music from Miami, and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, the business ain't right, Luke, their business ain't right,
Speaker 1: you don't and then business and then they'll be like
Speaker 1: and then I listen to a song, you know, because
Speaker 1: they everybody getting mad, loop man, you need to go
Speaker 1: and step down on these motherfucker's. When I go in there,
Speaker 1: then I listening ship and like the fun is this
Speaker 1: the ship that they have? You know? And then they'll
Speaker 1: be like, yo, this these are songs right here. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, this ain't the fucking Miami song. Deep, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: trying to sign like another motherfucker on the same beat,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm really almost yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sucked up when when it comes to music, I'm
Speaker 1: real real, ain't real that I don't like studios. I
Speaker 1: go in there, my attention span is real short. Ship
Speaker 1: ain't right. I ain't suing with it, you know. So
Speaker 1: when I hear in the first one minute, I was like, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's trying to sound like somebody else. Starts sund like Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of lot of a lot of music.
Speaker 1: Ain't like that. You got a couple of young guys
Speaker 1: around here that Curry is dope from You got a
Speaker 1: couple black to Yeah, when you when you hear dudes
Speaker 1: spitting you know, Miami slain and then I think it's
Speaker 1: a sliver. It's more the slain than anything. And they
Speaker 1: ain't delivering like some guy from Atlanta. It's the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: It's the look, and it's it's all it's. I mean,
Speaker 1: when when I put out parts of him, you know,
Speaker 1: which is the first Southern you know, god that that's
Speaker 1: the Southern hardcore group. After that's all night. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got you know, they gotta shake with your mama, gabe.
Speaker 1: But then the next song, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so deep for us got lyrics so you
Speaker 1: can't do it, you know with the sound they used
Speaker 1: to sound and slowed it down. You know, it was
Speaker 1: the same beat, but then they sped it up whenever
Speaker 1: they need to speed it up. But these dudes want
Speaker 1: to get away. But you did see the value in
Speaker 1: society as well, which when when he finally came out,
Speaker 1: I know he came through New York, he did rep
Speaker 1: Miami and then and even the dude from Home Team,
Speaker 1: I mean from Poison Clan did Home Team, which they
Speaker 1: didn't sound necessarily minam but for us cats that were
Speaker 1: into that, we were like, they're in Miami. Yeah, they're sound.
Speaker 1: They were there in Miami, they were from New York.
Speaker 1: But then they with the beat. I mean J T
Speaker 1: Money was in there right right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was the Miami guy that was in the group
Speaker 1: and then he left out. Then we did a solo
Speaker 1: because because it kids like me, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to a party in bass. Music is a part
Speaker 1: of my life. Reggae music is a part of my life.
Speaker 1: But I'm a hip hop kid too, So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Home Team, Society, Mother Superior. At least they speak
Speaker 1: in my language of mine, and that's what I was
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Speaker 1: d Jes. Then I have different parios that hip hop
Speaker 1: was my mom my mom, I'm gonna tell you my favorite.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and hip hop had to be what was
Speaker 1: your favorite, Yeah, like if you had to pick one, yeah, ship,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I've been so many years, I've
Speaker 1: got all of them? Is so? I mean, so just
Speaker 1: give me one. I ain't all kind of crazy years
Speaker 1: you remember more? Jesus have you have? You gonna get
Speaker 1: to that orgu you's don't get to that. But let's
Speaker 1: get to your favorite year, first favorite year. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Maybe I don't know nine
Speaker 1: or something has a better year after me up? So
Speaker 1: how many orgies have you had? Like if you could count?
Speaker 1: Did you say this was a family show? No? I
Speaker 1: was like, let me go to drink chat? You saying orgies? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know. I don't know. You can't come.
Speaker 1: So how did you? How did I? Are you a
Speaker 1: warning niggers? That's what's going on? Like, how did you
Speaker 1: start thinking I'm just have mad business around me? I
Speaker 1: got my title from A T. K. Kirklan pussylogist three
Speaker 1: steps side in the gun and colleges. Okay, that was hard.
Speaker 1: Let's make annoying for that. Say keep take kirk you're
Speaker 1: not talking about the comedian's girl, And say, Luke, you
Speaker 1: sound like time. How many rappers came to you and said, Luke,
Speaker 1: I got my things Eddie to ask either right there,
Speaker 1: if you'd broken chicks, he would be here right now,
Speaker 1: here's ya ya. Yeah, you had some girls, and I know, man,
Speaker 1: we'd be he was trying. He's trying to try to
Speaker 1: a little bit and we're trying to get a bar.
Speaker 1: But most importantly, we wanted you to be comfortable with
Speaker 1: liqucause this is some hip hop. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be some hip hop. You would be comfortable around girls.
Speaker 1: Man was married, Like, I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1: When goals a rolling, I did you gotta take one?
Speaker 1: I'm mad, right, I'm marry. You've been married longer than me.
Speaker 1: But how did your wife ever look at your old
Speaker 1: videos and just look at you and discuss she don't
Speaker 1: see me like so she didn't bring it up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean my whole thing. I mean, back in my
Speaker 1: wild days, he always was real, real, real peaky with chicks.
Speaker 1: You know. So everybody always thought, Okay, Luke sucking all
Speaker 1: these girls. But I was really, really real picky like
Speaker 1: you trail right, check trails with you before net League, right,
Speaker 1: like he was done with your crew like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: um s the chick, I'm pretty red pretty at one point,
Speaker 1: I'm telling me I'm not I know a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let me be clear. Hold on the way I just
Speaker 1: said that sounded crazy so so and now you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the same question. Act do you when you get on?
Speaker 1: But now where's your video? She did some ship that
Speaker 1: looked at me like for real? Now nowadays, Luke, the
Speaker 1: girls will go on Instagram. They will, you know, behalf naked,
Speaker 1: whatever what happen. They get all these followers and that's
Speaker 1: how people know who the bitches is in the town
Speaker 1: to funk with. When y'all was going out of town,
Speaker 1: how did y'all know where to find the back because
Speaker 1: you wrung your bitches with you for Miami, Like when
Speaker 1: y'all was on tour like that, I would bring my girls.
Speaker 1: I'll bring my girls out and pick up girls in
Speaker 1: every city. Oh my god, let make some noise for
Speaker 1: Luke being a real quack. So let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: But you have to get your hand. You gotta get
Speaker 1: your head. What does that mean the girl any anybody
Speaker 1: else on there? And that means face down? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: would have to, you know, now, how to go through
Speaker 1: something more real on them be looking at the mother
Speaker 1: because like okay, and you know the girls would actually
Speaker 1: hates the girl. Let's make some noise for you. You live.
Speaker 1: You lived every real nigga's life, and what I mean
Speaker 1: every what every real nigga would want to be in life,
Speaker 1: meaning you did what you wanted to do, when you
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, how you wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: You fought the system, you won crazy, you got married,
Speaker 1: and now you're teaching kids. That's what every real gangs
Speaker 1: want to I'm just being honest. The only difference between
Speaker 1: you is some of the other gangsters, they become a preacher.
Speaker 1: That's the last that they last did it, right, So
Speaker 1: how did you get in the teaching kids? How did that? Like?
Speaker 1: You know? Well, I mean when I first got my check,
Speaker 1: I started my youth program. This is like ourst first check,
Speaker 1: my first check, you know. Uh. Part of the check
Speaker 1: went by my mama house and and uh and the
Speaker 1: other part of it went to start my youth program
Speaker 1: Liberalty City office. Wow, this is like twenty six years
Speaker 1: you know, with with you know, with the program. For
Speaker 1: those that don't know, Liberty City is a very very
Speaker 1: real place. Continue, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, we got some great kids
Speaker 1: that came out of the program. And did you go
Speaker 1: to Liberty City because you felt that they needed it
Speaker 1: the most? Because I know you from the whole Miami.
Speaker 1: I know, like you could have went to anywhere in
Speaker 1: the whole Miami. Yea, yeah, where you're from? City cool?
Speaker 1: From from Liberty City to right, trick from Liberty City,
Speaker 1: I think, trick from down south from man trainers down
Speaker 1: all around, but from Carol City. Yeah, um, gunplay from
Speaker 1: our city, Marymonk alright, pit bulls from Highland, you know,
Speaker 1: west Chester, a little vans I know what you're talking
Speaker 1: about with you. So have any of your kids have
Speaker 1: not your kids, not your physical kids, but you know,
Speaker 1: you coach, they have they have a kid or said,
Speaker 1: look I'm trying, you know, get it popping. Can you
Speaker 1: be up you coach? If you call me Luca, uncle Luca?
Speaker 1: Something you asked to be ruling four where yards? And
Speaker 1: now how many people because I've seen especially I believe
Speaker 1: on MTV or something they was naming all the kids
Speaker 1: that you know made it from from your program. How
Speaker 1: how proud of you all that more? I'm very proud
Speaker 1: of I mean, that's that's that's the whole point of
Speaker 1: the program. You know, they're going save lives. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about it and you know,
Speaker 1: and they say, oh, I'm doing this, but until you
Speaker 1: fits Cleague out there every day with them, you know
Speaker 1: what you're seeing the little ones you have to be
Speaker 1: grown people. You know, I walked through the airport. I
Speaker 1: see some of the kids. You know what pride you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that they worked. Now they're working
Speaker 1: and they came through the program. You know, you know
Speaker 1: you see someone in the NFL. You know, you know
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, two of our kids will be starting running
Speaker 1: backs for Cleveland Browns in the Atlanta FILA. In this book,
Speaker 1: I know you talked about that back in the days,
Speaker 1: there was no leaves like that. No, it wasn't no leaves.
Speaker 1: You basically helped create that. I mean because I was
Speaker 1: you know, I lived in the Living City and because
Speaker 1: I was a good football player, I ended up going
Speaker 1: to Miami Beach playing for you know, the Optimists over
Speaker 1: there in Beach. I So I was, you know, that
Speaker 1: kid being on the bus every every every day coming
Speaker 1: home down the street right here sevday night street, leaving
Speaker 1: the cock at night. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: if I ever make two cents off my lunch money,
Speaker 1: I'll started program what kids don't have to you know,
Speaker 1: go through that riding on the bus and getting on
Speaker 1: leaving the car to night. They can be able to
Speaker 1: go home and be able to get the proper education
Speaker 1: that they need. That's beautiful. Mom. Let me ask you, Lout.
Speaker 1: You just come across as a person. You don't use
Speaker 1: a navigation in Miami. Navigation. Yeah, Like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie like you just look like you just look like
Speaker 1: you know the whole money every every now and then
Speaker 1: use it in Miami. Do Yeah, but you've seen this
Speaker 1: city literally built this up. You see. You've seen when
Speaker 1: cocaine came to this motherfucker cowboys. You've seen that when
Speaker 1: would change. That's just been crazy. Yeah, I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to that was back in the days. That was not
Speaker 1: the way it looked like. Yeah, I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out something like that's over town, your mother still overtown.
Speaker 1: Still trying to figure it out. Over the section. You
Speaker 1: don't don't get the border section was this small for
Speaker 1: us humans. We were surprised about the part of recon
Speaker 1: section that was for them. Yeah, Win Wold was this
Speaker 1: small all of a sudden, that motherfucker's this be Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, what part of the old town
Speaker 1: did you? You know what? It's like, okay, all right?
Speaker 1: And then the mosquitoes came right I'm like, yeah, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: so old time and just see your motherfucking mosquitos to
Speaker 1: get you all that you, I said, let's go. Wh
Speaker 1: would have drinks? It's like no, Zeke. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I don't know what za is like doing
Speaker 1: it was a chick. I was like, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: And then they spraying that motherfucker's ducking people with that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, hold on, where did this ship
Speaker 1: pop up? And you know you got Win would me
Speaker 1: and town all that ship was over to right now?
Speaker 1: Ross and Ross beginning of a career, Um, did you
Speaker 1: have anything to do with that? Because that was slipping
Speaker 1: Slide correct? Yeah, Ross was on slipping Side. Then me
Speaker 1: and Ross did a record. After Ross did a this
Speaker 1: a record on Sipping Side, he did a dis record
Speaker 1: and then I did a record with Ross and then Slipperside.
Speaker 1: I thought he was this and them too well, not
Speaker 1: know my song wasn't a this song, you know, I
Speaker 1: just thought he was a rapper. But he had a
Speaker 1: mix tape, he had a mixtape, and he had did
Speaker 1: you know the whole album and one of the records
Speaker 1: he had dissed them, you know, on there, and then
Speaker 1: I ended up listen to the mixtape. I liked him
Speaker 1: as an artist, you know him in dirt bag. So
Speaker 1: I put both of them on. Yeah, I put him
Speaker 1: both on a record. You know. I was like, these
Speaker 1: two dudes, how did ship right? And so I ended
Speaker 1: up putting them on the record before he blew up.
Speaker 1: Now everybody, like a lot of people, they say y'all
Speaker 1: run this town, or I'm the king or on such
Speaker 1: a such like you are really like the king of Miami.
Speaker 1: Like from families that that praised you for helping their
Speaker 1: sons play football and get into certain things for football,
Speaker 1: and then from families that you've helped because when you
Speaker 1: put on a wrapper. DMX said this on our third interview.
Speaker 1: He said, when you put in a wrapper, you employed
Speaker 1: eight other motherfucker's, Like one rapper comes with eight other motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: So if you put it on, if you put it
Speaker 1: on just three rappers was eight times three. That's twenty
Speaker 1: four people that you employed, and I'm just talking about three.
Speaker 1: So you are like so revered, you so love like
Speaker 1: you can walk around by yourself. Is that is that
Speaker 1: something you're proud of? Because is that something you always
Speaker 1: thought that this is what you how you want to
Speaker 1: be or what I didn't. I didn't think it out,
Speaker 1: you know, I just know my mom and my dad
Speaker 1: race you know what I'm saying that I just did.
Speaker 1: I just did everything with common sense, and at the
Speaker 1: same time, I made sure that, you know, even how
Speaker 1: big I got, whether I was in Japan, uh, China, wherever,
Speaker 1: France or Holland doing a show, that I would eventually
Speaker 1: end up back home, you know. And when those opportunities
Speaker 1: came to be, you know, an executive in New York
Speaker 1: and l A get into the movie industry, I know
Speaker 1: I couldn't leave because I need to go back to Miami,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I always figured, Hey, look,
Speaker 1: they gotta be some other loops coming after me if
Speaker 1: I leave, like every other dude, dude, you know, they'll
Speaker 1: leave their own city after they blow up. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: going to the big lights, you know, what I'm saying
Speaker 1: in Hollywood now, you're just stuff the city. So I
Speaker 1: always looked at it from the standpoint you know, I
Speaker 1: really got to wrapped my city, and I gotta to
Speaker 1: put other people on that I employed. Obama just recently
Speaker 1: had two millions. He met with all the rappers and
Speaker 1: then he had a party. He can't invite me? Are
Speaker 1: you taking me? I was saying, no, we can't say.
Speaker 1: Obama got office and did he say he niggas? Cross
Speaker 1: was in there with Let's keep it in my head.
Speaker 1: He had the House of Bass, was there for the tea?
Speaker 1: Was there? Invited the whole bunch of niggas that I know.
Speaker 1: I committed a felony as well, and he invited them.
Speaker 1: He didn't invite me. Yeah, this is the first I
Speaker 1: heard that. But have you ever been invited to the
Speaker 1: White House like n w A Because he had some
Speaker 1: fun up ship and then they went to w A. Yeah, publicly,
Speaker 1: I was just wondering. I don't know. That would have
Speaker 1: been weird. Bernie would have won out Bernie. Bernie now
Speaker 1: into politics. He's a politician, all right. Occmantly tried to
Speaker 1: open a club on South Beach. They shut him down.
Speaker 1: So now he's trying to run for maya of not
Speaker 1: Miami off South. I didn't even know that was a
Speaker 1: city by itself, he said, South Beach. I didn't know
Speaker 1: any beaches. But he says South Beaches and say, I
Speaker 1: never knew that. I never knew that beat that ship, right,
Speaker 1: he said? He said. I asked him, you sure it's
Speaker 1: a city, a city cling for my h queen. So
Speaker 1: he might be getting, but it doesn't matter. I think
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump. I don't feel bad now, you don't
Speaker 1: know that it doesn't matter, But this is what I think.
Speaker 1: I think that that Donald Trump has set it up
Speaker 1: for people like you who have maybe a filtered past,
Speaker 1: but you have for such a bright future that u
Speaker 1: uh like people that you can run for maya for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I don't know what I'm gonna make no
Speaker 1: ways for that, you know. I mean what I mean
Speaker 1: by that. What I mean by that is when I
Speaker 1: ran for mayor here right game a third uh, I
Speaker 1: ran use more money, you know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: same way I do remember this that's long ago, too long,
Speaker 1: The same thing you see Trump doing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like straight out of my playbook. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm basically keeping it real, you know, appealing
Speaker 1: to people who who feel like they left like Trump.
Speaker 1: The way you sound, you sound like you know I
Speaker 1: don't like Trump. I'm worried about Trump. No. Trump never
Speaker 1: ended up in my wrap. I never glorified him. You know,
Speaker 1: most of the guys from New York glorified about five.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this the whole town I'm worry about. But
Speaker 1: he's like he acts a rap song, gone back as
Speaker 1: soon as he got as soon as he got Papa.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm I'm gonna with the white racist because
Speaker 1: it's those are the people that's gonna come out hung
Speaker 1: out with Trump. You know, back in the day, nothing
Speaker 1: like you know what he is. He was a cool motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Did you give him a dirty No, I gotta give
Speaker 1: Trump a dirty man next time. He Actually I thought
Speaker 1: I was like my party I was had with him.
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all trying to get something of me.
Speaker 1: Let me get then out. Now, y'all got cameras in
Speaker 1: this room here now treating us. He's one of the
Speaker 1: like Miami stables, like one of the first female artist
Speaker 1: sex symbol kind of took your your you know a
Speaker 1: foremat um how you feel about you know, it's just
Speaker 1: my girl. I mean that's like that's that's one of
Speaker 1: their niece. You don't mean, I mean, uh, you know
Speaker 1: she when you hit the song it's your birthday and
Speaker 1: say Trina, it's your birthday. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: you know she's saying out in the studio and all that.
Speaker 1: I know since she was really really young, Uh stepdad,
Speaker 1: Mr Wonderful fift, that's the story. Were saying out that.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was a rough guy, you know,
Speaker 1: and she used to be the little girl running around
Speaker 1: you know that. You know, that's when I was not
Speaker 1: a nice guy. And so I kind of watch your girl.
Speaker 1: So big up, Trina, Trina, trick Daddy, everybody from Miami,
Speaker 1: these artists, we in Miami. We want to respect that.
Speaker 1: So look, let me pay pretty much wrapping this up.
Speaker 1: You started like the sex the strip clubs. I had
Speaker 1: a party with you and so be live. The ship
Speaker 1: was turned the funk out. I mean this just years ago,
Speaker 1: and SOUPI Lives was open. But then my manager told me,
Speaker 1: he was like, I said, did you should have went
Speaker 1: to the one in the tunnel. So I went to
Speaker 1: the one to know how I did. I didn't go
Speaker 1: to your joint in the tunnel. I'm sorry. I might
Speaker 1: have been locked up at the time. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what what what what? What year was this you're taking?
Speaker 1: How did the tune? Man? I had to make that
Speaker 1: us have been crazy? I did? I did? I got
Speaker 1: bared out of out of the speed. No polo we
Speaker 1: got who good? Buy it from the polo? Hold on?
Speaker 1: You got bars from? I just didn't the other day.
Speaker 1: Five rules came then from because yeah, yeah that was
Speaker 1: motherfucker got girlfrished. I have the board for him and
Speaker 1: the show on stage, have the head and ship got
Speaker 1: no board the Miami Boys and they could be a
Speaker 1: new look right now? Do you think right now? Like
Speaker 1: when you no, No, okay, I don't think they Man,
Speaker 1: you can't reinvent the only one they can't get. Can
Speaker 1: it be they can't get the US i'ming? Can it
Speaker 1: be a new two live crew like Nick is? Like
Speaker 1: new artists? Yeah, but not Look, no, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta go through some ship. I don't think they could
Speaker 1: be a new tool like I'm gonna tell you why,
Speaker 1: because it was just the error that was brand new
Speaker 1: anybody doesn't. Now it's not brand new no more him.
Speaker 1: It's been too short. He's been keeping it alive. But
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a shocking can't say it
Speaker 1: was shocking, That's what I'm saying, Like another new young
Speaker 1: dude that what anna to have a neckd video and
Speaker 1: then they're going to another video like all of the
Speaker 1: videos was like you know what I'm saying, Like right on,
Speaker 1: its hurting, like you know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: sitting on the I'm sorry, it's it's weird a minute,
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you so they cannot be another look,
Speaker 1: they cannot can I don't think I would like to
Speaker 1: see that. I would like to see artists resurgence, like
Speaker 1: like with styles like not not biting nobody's ship, but
Speaker 1: reminding me, Like Joey Badass reminds me of Buckshot. There
Speaker 1: might be resemblance that reminds me of rock Him. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's saying nas it's not Rock
Speaker 1: Him and and and Joey Badasses and Buckshot, but it
Speaker 1: does remind me, you know what I mean? They can't
Speaker 1: can never be Can they get somebody? Come close? Resemblance definitely.
Speaker 1: Now when the last time you've been a strip club
Speaker 1: last week? Last week? And are you like all right,
Speaker 1: they're keeping the tradition going or you like, let me
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. Most of the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got different types of strip clubs. I
Speaker 1: mean you got some straight, don't play hips. Ship that's
Speaker 1: almost got holiday, some clubs that's dancing and shout out
Speaker 1: to show girl that's color. Strip clubs ain't got no
Speaker 1: fucking chance every body standing up looking at the stage,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they got comedy and ship going on.
Speaker 1: I mean it's different people going on. D scholars, scarlet
Speaker 1: scholets of the block from Cheetahs take one, take what
Speaker 1: was all? You know? You know? And all the mistresses
Speaker 1: in the strip suck up the mistress game. Miami and Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I remember at one point we would look at your
Speaker 1: niggers and be like, they're throwing their money to bitches.
Speaker 1: Yes it right now. There's no regular clubs in New York.
Speaker 1: It's only strip club But I remember us clowning niggas
Speaker 1: like like I remember the Players Bowl and all that.
Speaker 1: We used to laughing niggas in the South, like these
Speaker 1: niggas it's crazy. Yeah, hang out with the bit just
Speaker 1: getting naked. And then remember like strip club was a
Speaker 1: one night a week thing. It was like on a
Speaker 1: Tuesday on a Friday. Now it's every day thing, every
Speaker 1: day something is open. And and now think it's not
Speaker 1: integrated New York. Yeah, you got some fund up niggas
Speaker 1: for that. Man, I'm not making noise for that. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, you know, that's good. You're su my whole
Speaker 1: city points, point of our culture in mind. You can
Speaker 1: just not I mean, back in the days, you can
Speaker 1: look at a girl and be like, oh, that's a
Speaker 1: nice girl. Like right now you go like if you
Speaker 1: see a girl rolling the bag, you're like, oh, man, man,
Speaker 1: just rolling the back you just came from. I just
Speaker 1: came up. Like that's crazy. So I just want to
Speaker 1: thank you. Want to get uncle Luke man. We got
Speaker 1: back wet, we gotta back. We got a back for
Speaker 1: you back. Yeah, you gotta back for We're trying to
Speaker 1: be professional. Sing just from the drink Champ to you
Speaker 1: drink Champ. I didn't drink. You didn't like, Oh that's
Speaker 1: my personal but I'm fun with the Colombians, you know,
Speaker 1: And we get a three champs, Sure, three champs, cups,
Speaker 1: big up that royal Elite Fat Joe, big up I,
Speaker 1: big up Rick Ross Man. He's getting so much money. Man,
Speaker 1: he's coming here for years. Oh yeah, he's still lives
Speaker 1: here and he still live here. Um September temp we're
Speaker 1: having this party. Go down to all the people. We
Speaker 1: want you to come out. We're gonna write all the guests. Luke,
Speaker 1: I can't thank you so much because you are the
Speaker 1: Miami King and we wouldn't feel comfortable continue with the
Speaker 1: show of having this show without the coming through a
Speaker 1: co sign on us. We want to salute, We want
Speaker 1: to tell the people go out there and get your
Speaker 1: book is very important because what you heard today, it's
Speaker 1: just a piece of how phenomenally you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then not only that, you you young motherfucker's not
Speaker 1: only do you listen to this interview and then read
Speaker 1: this book, but go out there and do your research.
Speaker 1: Go out there and see why you heard the fans
Speaker 1: voice cracking and my voice cracking as we're asking questions
Speaker 1: and we're sitting back and learning things. It's because we're
Speaker 1: excited to see a legend. It is not bad for
Speaker 1: you to be a fan of somebody else. It makes
Speaker 1: a great artist is great artists are fans of other
Speaker 1: people and ain't afraid to be fans of other people.
Speaker 1: Here you are. This is what makes Drinks Champs dope
Speaker 1: is that you get to hear me and e FN
Speaker 1: act like young boys. And we're sitting here, sitting with
Speaker 1: a legend like Luke and were just sitting here and
Speaker 1: just so open because and it don't matter the funk
Speaker 1: with ratings. We add that don't matter. What matters is
Speaker 1: to keep hip hop alive. And we don't interview new artists.
Speaker 1: We interview legends because that's who we know about. We
Speaker 1: don't gotta google. But if you're a young guy you
Speaker 1: enter this Drink Champs, I suggest you google. You know
Speaker 1: the book that's about to say, you know, only listen
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Speaker 1: the girl, but the video, a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that that was the first video, the first X rated
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Speaker 1: it's like damn as an O G I'm the next generation,
Speaker 1: so I kind of blame myself, but I can't be
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Speaker 1: who love hip hop, go out there and do your research,
Speaker 1: because you ain't doing nothing new under the sun. And
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