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Speaker 4: Touchdown and now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: and Kyle Yeomans. It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: The SWBC studios.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in, everybody, as we continue to break down the

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Speaker 4: forty four to nineteen Cowboys loss to.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 4: They are now tied atop the vision as the Commanders

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Speaker 4: are one and one, the Cowboys are one and one

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Speaker 4: and after Monday Night Football, Thank you Kirk Cousins and.

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Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons. The Eagles are also one and Kirk.

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Speaker 4: Oh Baby, We've got Patrick Noci Walker, We've got Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand

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Speaker 4: back out Today He's on this little show called Good

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Speaker 4: Morning Football. Kind of a big deal, big deal, kind

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Speaker 4: of a big so if you haven't checked it out already.

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Speaker 4: Watch our show first, go ahead and knock out talking cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Get it out of the way. We're only forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: It's fine, and then you'll go and watch Good.

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Speaker 1: Morning Football the rest of the morning. I saw it. Plan.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best way to spend your morning.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 5: Spend every morning, to be fair, eating Mondays and Tuesdays

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Speaker 5: and Mondays.

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Speaker 1: Eating your oats. You gotta gotta eat your eat the oats.

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Speaker 1: Eat the oats.

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Speaker 6: Get talking cowboys in, get some Isaiah stand back on, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, good morning football.

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Speaker 1: Then you get your day started off right.

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Speaker 5: Get your and Visil line and rock on in our

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Speaker 5: Black Rifle coffee. You drink your black Rifle coffee first,

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Speaker 5: and then you do the invisilne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do both.

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Speaker 5: You can't know.

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Speaker 3: I did a Visil line last a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago and.

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Speaker 5: Still as a proud customer.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, I'm done, I'm done with it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 4: I can tell oh yeah, oh my gosh, it was awesome.

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Speaker 4: I loved it, and the difference was significant. But that

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Speaker 4: was one of the first things they said. They were

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Speaker 4: like don't drink coffee with your retainers in because it'll

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Speaker 4: stain them in a yellow And I was like, I

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Speaker 4: was like whatever, dude. In the first like trays I had,

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Speaker 4: I drank coffee and I was like, ooh, bad idea.

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Speaker 3: And then like, okay, let me not do that.

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Speaker 1: I probably have listened to Kyle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tried such a horrible I know. I'm just

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Speaker 3: an outlaw.

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Speaker 1: Rage against the machine. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh, today is a talking Tuesday. Eight A eight eight

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Speaker 4: five five to two nine seven. I also was just

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Speaker 4: told I learned this today. This is my sixth season

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Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, congratulations, thanks dude.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea up until this very moment that

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Speaker 4: the number stands for eight eight A t l K

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Speaker 4: C b ys as in talk Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You were today years old today.

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Speaker 5: Kind of our number. If you think about it, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like everybody else, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Have to think about it. It just is.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 5: It just is so storyline. Yes, it's talking.

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Speaker 6: We don't make the rules the break or eight eight

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Speaker 6: eight players, it's none of that.

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Speaker 4: Nah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's talking cowboys.

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Speaker 3: But we are going to take your calls.

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Speaker 4: Eight aight eight eight, five, five, two two nine seven,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and get on the phone line right now.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with some news and notes. Patrick No c. Walker,

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Speaker 3: which is heard from one Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: We did think we did. We did.

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Speaker 6: The biggest takeaway from the weekly Jerry Jones radio address

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Speaker 6: on one to five point three the fan is the

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Speaker 6: status of Dalvin Cook. Obviously, we were talking about it

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Speaker 6: yesterday and we were, you know, wondering if this was

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Speaker 6: the week that Dalvin Cook would be elevated. He's now

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Speaker 6: this is going into week three for all of them,

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Speaker 6: and it was a ramp up process to this point.

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Speaker 6: But then when you look at some of the struggles

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys had on the ground against the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 6: felt prudent to UH to consider Dalvin Cook for this

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Speaker 6: But Jerry Jones says he doesn't necessarily see that as

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Speaker 6: a consideration this week. So does that absolutely? Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 6: Joss I dropped my head when I heard it as well.

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Speaker 6: Does that absolutely? The UH route out Dalvin Cook as

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Speaker 6: a possible elevation, not on a Tuesday, it does Joshua, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I know, Oh my god, Hey, that's the thumbnail. I know,

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Speaker 6: that's that thumb nail. Can't cook up is the headline,

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Speaker 6: and that's the thumb nail. But so obviously, ultimately it'll

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Speaker 6: be the decision made on Saturday when the practice squad

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Speaker 6: elevations are made. They still have Wednesday, Thursday, practice, Friday

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys hold firm to that. But it doesn't sound

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Speaker 6: like as of this moment, Dalvin Cook will be a

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Speaker 6: go against the Ravens. Jake Ferguson, Mike Ferguson, Mike Ferguson,

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy on yesterday gave an update on Jake Ferguson,

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Speaker 6: and basically he's saying that, you know, as long as

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Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson continues to progress in practices this week, then

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Speaker 6: he'll be on the field. Stephen Jones talked to the

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Speaker 1: Going into that.

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy said, Jake had a quote unquote good workout

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Monday.

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Speaker 3: So sign work out pregame Sunday too, as he did.

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Speaker 6: He did a little bit before he went to put

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Speaker 6: point this week. I see Jake Ferguson getting on the

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Speaker 5: I'm still of the mind that it was best to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't see that. He didn't Also, he would

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Speaker 5: Did not need to see that. Yes, what Fergie Fergie?

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Speaker 1: We're not making nicknames.

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Speaker 5: He's got two knees.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm saying that's that's what we're not going

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Speaker 6: It checks out.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't, believe me.

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Speaker 5: The nickname checks out. All right, I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little more of the Turkey Turkey speed speed

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Speaker 3: But I'm not even that.

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Speaker 6: But we're definitely we're going to steer away from from

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Speaker 6: nothing wrong with that, but but yeah, I think Jake

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Speaker 6: takes the field. Now, and you know what I was

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Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson being on the field might have might have

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Speaker 6: gotten the Cowboys plus one in the touchdown category, baby,

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Speaker 6: but it wasn't going to change the fact that the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys were getting dog walked in that game. Now, this,

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Speaker 6: this is a different situation going going up against the Ravens,

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Speaker 6: freaking football. Right, So yeah, I think Jake takes the field.

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Speaker 5: Uh, And not to bag on Luskmaker, but he had

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Speaker 1: He actually has a career game. Yeah, he quite literally

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Speaker 5: He showed up in those first two I said, I said.

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Speaker 6: On Twitter during the game or towards the back end

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Speaker 6: of the game, I was like, you know, the positives

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Speaker 6: Brandon Aubrey being one of the positives obviously.

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Speaker 1: But Luke Schoolmaker was a positive for me.

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Speaker 6: Right he I think he had one targets without me glance,

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Speaker 6: and I think he had six targets and he caught

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Speaker 1: So wasn't a lights out.

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Speaker 6: Affair for Schoolmaker, no, but it was literally a career

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Speaker 6: some steps forward in the absence of Jake Ferguson, and

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Speaker 6: that's exactly what he did. So give him credit for it.

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Speaker 6: Give him credit for it.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: And I think if you see Schoolmaker take a step

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Speaker 4: forward this year, that's a good thing overall for this

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Speaker 4: offense because then you've got two tight ends that you

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Speaker 4: trust significantly. Of course, we've talked about John Stevens junior,

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Speaker 4: We've talked about Brevin Sport. Unfortunately, nobody scored a touchdown

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Speaker 4: in Week two, so nobody's wearing a full set of

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Speaker 4: pads that.

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Speaker 5: Once unfortunately two chains today, by the way, we always

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Speaker 5: heard to Kirkle, Kirkole, Kirkle. I'm looking at Kyle Jolman's

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Speaker 5: with the two chains today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 6: It's I think it's to pay homage to Kirkle two chains.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Kirk, Yeah, appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that was quite enjoyable to watch.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about that a little bit here. I know

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Speaker 4: this is talking Cowboys, but I mean.

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Speaker 1: This it impacts the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles didn't look great. They also didn't look terrible

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys. If we're talking about Week two, the Eagles

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Speaker 4: looked okay and the Cowboys looked terrible.

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Speaker 3: So that's I mean, it's not like we're comparing.

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Speaker 4: The two, but at the end of the day, they're

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Speaker 4: both one and one, and it shows that there's maybe

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Speaker 4: a chink in the armor from the Eagles that we

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Speaker 4: had seen previously to the final six games last year,

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Speaker 4: because final six games Eagles last year were detrimental in

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Speaker 4: their own right.

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Speaker 5: I was feeling that too. I thought I thought coming

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Speaker 5: into this season that the Eagles were going to stay

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Speaker 5: on that trend of like not being that great. Granted

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Speaker 5: they stole one from Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're really very mid They're really missed.

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Speaker 5: I think I really don't think Jill Hurts is that dude.

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Speaker 6: This is oh, this is me looking for fs to give.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to hear about banged upe.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the Eagles. I'm talking about the Packers.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh, well because the yeah, because of the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean the Eagles admit that's

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Speaker 6: The Eagles barely escaped against the Packers, right, should have

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Speaker 6: You get Kellen mood And then that's a conversation that's

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Speaker 6: Should he have you know, changed up and called that

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Speaker 6: You got cute, and it burned you. You went away

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Speaker 6: off like they do. They earned it that, No, they

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Speaker 1: We lost. The Saints earned it. Yes, the Eagles didn't

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Speaker 5: Came we also earned But this is what this segment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 6: That's that's why you rule of football, wait until your

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Speaker 6: Oh well you got walked down. Yeah we did, Cowboys

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Speaker 6: absolutely did. You did, but you lost at home to

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Speaker 3: He took it one minute, drill all the way back down.

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Speaker 1: Delicious there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this isn't the type of segment that I

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Speaker 3: Their team didn't look great either.

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Speaker 4: And if anything, if Philadelphia looked at Dallas right now

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Speaker 3: That's truly would be because of what they showed us.

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Speaker 6: They went high, then they went low, which means the

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Speaker 4: I think the frustrating part right now is and Jerry

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Speaker 3: You got to try something different.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let me say this and then segue to that

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Speaker 6: when it comes to the Eagles losing, you can enjoy

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Speaker 6: So even if you take the subjectivity out of it

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: I also said this on Twitter. It's always better. It's

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Speaker 3: You're wearing purple and black.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing purple and black because I'm trying to jink them.

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Speaker 6: So you have to get it started this week, and

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Speaker 6: It's easy to always say, oh, when time of position,

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Speaker 1: Because it drives. But correct. They were efficient and explosive.

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Speaker 6: They had ten fewer offensive plays, but they had forty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, And I'm also thinking in terms of

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: He's not the one like calling his own shot right,

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Speaker 4: He played ten snaps, fourteen percent of the offensive play calls,

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Speaker 1: But number one, you don't.

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Speaker 6: Know that who you pushing to the side for Dalvin,

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Speaker 4: And it's going up against the Ravens front seven. That's significant,

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking forward to it, especially if there's not

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Speaker 4: going to be any changes made in between.

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Speaker 3: Now, and that doesn't need to be anything crazy.

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Speaker 4: I saw somebody ask me the question of are you

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Speaker 4: talking about in house making a change, free agents making

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Speaker 4: a change, or trades when it comes to the running

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Speaker 4: back room.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: There's a wrong answer, but there's a right one somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I think right now, your wrong answer is keeping it

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Speaker 4: the same. That's where I'm at. If you need to

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Speaker 4: make a trade exactly, If you need to make a trade,

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Speaker 4: go make a trade. Go make it happen. You've got

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Speaker 4: some draft capital, make it work. If it works that way, fine,

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Speaker 4: because either that or you're talking about Ollie Gordon or

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Speaker 4: Brooks out of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, the Ollie

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Speaker 4: Gordon in the draft, and we're talking about a first

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Speaker 4: round pick, which you should never ever spend on a

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Speaker 4: running back, but you need one that badly that you

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Speaker 4: might have to at that point. I I want to

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Speaker 4: see what a trade looks like. I want to see

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Speaker 4: what I mean free agents. It's probably already slim pickens

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 1: You have for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got Dalvin Cook in the backfield waiting on

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Speaker 4: the practice squad waiting.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the answer, but at least give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: I kick some tires.

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Speaker 6: I don't see that there's an available free agent that

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Speaker 6: would give you much more than you're hoping Dalvin Cooking,

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Speaker 6: because I think it's either because even Cowboys fans there,

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Speaker 6: you know that, are asking Will why didn't they go

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Speaker 6: and sign Kareem Hunk. Kareem Hunk because they have Dalvin

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Speaker 6: cook And what's the difference? Not a lot, if any,

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Speaker 6: if anything, if anything. So if you're going to point

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Speaker 6: so you're going to.

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Speaker 1: Have to go trade for him. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Get your calls in right now. Chris Beam is ready

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Speaker 4: to answer them in the back. Let's go to our

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Speaker 4: first caller in New York. It is Mike in New York.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 10: Mike?

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Speaker 3: Know what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Guys?

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously I obviously called the show all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know that my big watching the game was a

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Speaker 1: rush defense, run defense. How in week one we were

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Speaker 1: so good.

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Speaker 10: In a week two, it's like a total disaster.

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Speaker 11: It it reminded me last year's playoff game.

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Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I mean, I know it's.

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Speaker 11: Only we two, but still it's we got it.

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Speaker 8: We gotta get a fixed.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, Mike, Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about that run defense a little bit here,

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Speaker 4: because you go back and you watch the film a

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Speaker 4: little bit more in depth in between yesterday's show and

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Speaker 4: today's show, and these defensive tackles got absolutely annihilated that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, no if answer, but it looked like it

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Speaker 4: looked like Thanos was was blocking up front, just like yeah,

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Speaker 4: and just pushing forward. I don't like it whenever, and

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Speaker 4: I know this clip had been circling Cowboys Twitter over

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Speaker 4: the last forty eight hours or so, but I don't

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Speaker 4: like it whenever You've got a player Jordan Phillips starting

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Speaker 4: at the five yard line in the Alvin Kamara touchdown

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Speaker 4: run from five yards out and he ends up in

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Speaker 4: the end zone at the end of the play. In

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Speaker 4: that quick of a moment where Kamara takes the football

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Speaker 4: and walks into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: He got pushed from the five yard.

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Speaker 4: Line into the end zone. That can't happen. You gotta

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Speaker 4: hold the line of scrimmage. And that's where it starts

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Speaker 4: for me. In the run game, you gotta just have

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Speaker 4: better defensive tackle play. I think they can get it.

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Speaker 4: I do, actually, contrary to how I believe in the

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Speaker 4: running back room, I believe in the defensive tackle room

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think there will be a step up in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's crazy, maybe that's a little outlandish. I thought

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Speaker 4: there was some good film from Phillips outside of that rep.

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Speaker 4: I thought there was some decent film from Lynville Joseph

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Speaker 4: in limited Action.

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Speaker 3: I think there's ways that they can improve. I just

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Speaker 3: haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they were sitting in the lunch line

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Speaker 5: with empty pockets yesterday. Just got absolutely bullied in that game.

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Speaker 5: Empty pockets, empty pockets. Man, it feels no free lunch

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Speaker 5: in the no free lunch. And then in the second half,

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Speaker 5: I think a big part of what you saw as

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Speaker 5: far as just just getting bulldozed, I think it was

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Speaker 5: just sort of like going through the motions and like

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Speaker 5: we're getting beat. This is what's happening, and it was

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Speaker 5: like a what's that called where it's just like an inevitability.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about Danos, right, it's just like, yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: gonna score, like yeah, And I'm not gonna I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna judge anybody for lack of effort or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: But it just flicked that way, right, it just looked

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Speaker 5: like they're gonna score.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that it was lack of effort, And

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Speaker 6: for me, it really just boils down to lack of execution.

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Speaker 6: These guys were getting moved off of their spots on

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Speaker 6: virtually every play in the trenches. And Jordan Phillips is

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Speaker 6: coming off a week when we were just saying that

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Speaker 6: he had one of the one of the better games

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Speaker 6: of the Cowboys in Cleveland. You know, he was able

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Speaker 6: to get his hands on this watch and almost put

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Speaker 6: them through the planet. Right, And Jordan Phillips has also

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Speaker 6: had a good short portion of training camp, but he

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Speaker 6: looked good and you know the portional training camp that

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Speaker 6: he participated in. So yeah, small example size in that

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Speaker 6: this was just a bad game for him, But it

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Speaker 6: was a bad game for the guy to the left

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Speaker 6: of him, to the right of him, to the guys

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Speaker 6: behind him. I mean, it was a bad game for

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Speaker 6: most guys on defense. But you got to get it

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Speaker 6: fixed because you bring in the involve Joseph, you trade

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Speaker 6: for Jordan Phillips, You need Mosie Smith to take a

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Speaker 6: step up. You go and get Eric Kendricks to lead

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Speaker 6: this linebacker corps, and the linebackers are going to be

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Speaker 6: needed to help with that run defense. But I saw

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Speaker 6: lack of gap integrity. I mean I saw the gaps

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Speaker 6: just to cinegrade. I saw guys getting moved off their spot.

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Speaker 6: And granted we don't know who what keys belonged to

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Speaker 6: what guys, but none of those keys were found. Everybody

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Speaker 6: was looking for the keys, right It's like you're sitting

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Speaker 6: at home where m keys, we're mc key's, that's pockets,

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Speaker 6: and like we're mkeys And that's what it felt like

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Speaker 6: looking at the Cowboys defense. So until unless they get

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Speaker 6: that gap integrity back like they had against Cleveland, unless

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Speaker 6: they get to not playing hero ball, which is the

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Speaker 6: danger of getting blown out because as the game goes on,

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Speaker 6: you start pressing and you start trusting the guy next

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Speaker 6: to you a little bit less and a little bit less,

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Speaker 6: and you're like, Okay, well he may not make this

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Speaker 6: play because he didn't make the last play, so now

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Speaker 6: I need to make that play. But then now you're

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Speaker 6: off of your spot, and now guess where that play

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Speaker 6: is coming to the spot that you should have been

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Speaker 6: taken care of.

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Speaker 4: Just to ask a follow up on the keys thing,

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Speaker 4: if we're searching for keys and we're looking for it,

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Speaker 4: and I agree with you, I think there were times

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Speaker 4: where it looked like Dallas didn't know their assignment, didn't

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Speaker 4: know their alignment, and of course assignment in alignment that's

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Speaker 4: half of the battle in football. Yes, who is that on?

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Speaker 4: Is that on a player? Is that on each individual player?

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Speaker 4: Or is that on Mike Zimmer's system? And maybe it

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Speaker 4: being too complex at this point in the season.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that it's too complex, But I will

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Speaker 6: say I love Mike Zimmer taking one hundred percent accountability

651
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Speaker 6: they did yesterday. Yesterday he said, I've got to do

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Speaker 6: a better job. That's on me, point blank. Every time

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Speaker 6: the question went to was it an effort thing, he

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Speaker 6: was like, no, I got to prepare these guys better.

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Speaker 6: And then, to his credit, he went into detail as

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Speaker 6: far as what does that mean, and he said, you know,

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Speaker 6: he didn't prepare them well enough to stop the run

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Speaker 6: with the keys and the assignments. So when you start

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Speaker 6: to look at it from that capacity, it starts to

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Speaker 6: make a little bit more sense as far as why,

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Speaker 6: based on how the Saints were calling the game offensively,

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Speaker 6: why the Cowboys defense was so out of sorts with Okay, well,

663
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Speaker 6: if this is supposed to be my key, but if

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Speaker 6: I do that, then this is going to work. So

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Speaker 6: I'm going to change my key in real time. But

666
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Speaker 6: then he went this way, so Eric Kendricks kind of

667
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Speaker 6: touched on it after the game when he said, we

668
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Speaker 6: were talking about Alvin Kamara and he said the problem

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Speaker 6: was when he get the ball and he'd show you

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Speaker 6: that it's a front fit. Well, Kendricks is like, okay,

671
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Speaker 6: that's my key. But then he'd take it to the backfit,

672
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Speaker 6: or he'd show you the backfit. He's like, okay, well

673
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Speaker 6: that's the key. So instead of sticking with whatever the

674
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Speaker 6: key might have been happening. And that's again the danger

675
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Speaker 6: of getting blown out. You start pressing and you start

676
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Speaker 6: trying to over think instead of just cutting loose and

677
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 6: playing football. Against the Browns, they cut loose. They played football.

678
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Speaker 6: That's why they were able to dominate against the Saints.

679
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Speaker 6: They were playing on their heels and then they started

680
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Speaker 6: getting pushed back, and then they started playing hero ball,

681
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Speaker 6: and it just it was a cascade of nonsense after.

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Speaker 5: That's that's a much better way than what I was

683
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Speaker 5: trying to I guess articulate. It wasn't lack of effort.

684
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Speaker 5: I didn't see that on my end. It definitely just

685
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Speaker 5: felt like they were just getting blown up.

686
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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 5: They were getting blown up and they were pressing at

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Speaker 5: that point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, It turns into that, and Alvin Kamara, to

690
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Speaker 4: be fair, has had Mike Zimmer's number throughout his career.

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Speaker 3: Four touchdowns on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Everybody already knows that second time he's done that in

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Speaker 4: his career. The other one, of course, was Week sixteen

694
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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty. Alvin Kamara fantasy owners or those that

695
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Speaker 4: played against them that week will remember he had six

696
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Speaker 4: touchdowns against the Vikings. Both defenses were coached by one

697
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Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer. Kamara has fourteen scrimmage touchdowns in six games

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Speaker 4: against Zimmer as a head coach or a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 4: most against Zim him out.

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Speaker 3: Of any player.

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Speaker 6: Pickle juice, pickle juice, pickle juice, Zimmer said yesterday, pickle

702
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Speaker 6: pickle juice game. He said that that conjured memories of

703
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Speaker 6: the pickle juice game. And for those that don't know,

704
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Speaker 6: because I know there are some don't. Year two thousand,

705
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Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer's first year as defensive coordinator. He was defensive

706
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Speaker 6: backs coach previously, but first game as defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys first game of the Dan Campbell as head

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Speaker 6: of coach era in March the Philadelphia Eagles in Texas

709
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Speaker 6: Stadium and do Staley goes for over two hundred yards

710
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Speaker 6: on the ground and the Eagles win forty one to

711
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Speaker 6: like fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I believe so. And if you're wondering why they call it.

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Speaker 6: The pickle juice game, it's because the Eagles players were

714
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Speaker 6: drinking pickle juice to combat cramping that was happening in

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Speaker 6: the Texas heat. So that's just the name of the

716
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Speaker 6: game because of what happened in that capacity. But Mike

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Speaker 6: Zimmer got walked on the ground and he basically said

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Speaker 6: if I didn't fix it, then I wouldn't be talking

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Speaker 6: to you.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: My only issue with that is, and I wrote this

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Speaker 6: in the article on the dot com yesterday, it took

723
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Speaker 6: two years to fix it, right, because.

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Speaker 3: It went like five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

726
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Speaker 6: And I'm not so much on the record as far

727
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Speaker 6: as because if we're focusing on the run defense, the

728
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Speaker 6: record is the totality of the team, quarterback, head coach,

729
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Speaker 6: offensive play calling, the elect the whole situation. But if

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Speaker 6: we're talking about did Zimmer improve over the picklejuice game.

731
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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 6: It got better in two thousand and one, and then

733
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Speaker 6: in two thousand and two in both yards per carry

734
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Speaker 6: and in rushing touchdowns allowed. The Cowboys run defense was

735
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Speaker 6: top ten in the league. So he did fix it.

736
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Speaker 6: Problem is he only has he only has a one

737
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Speaker 6: year deal right now, so you don't have one or

738
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Speaker 6: two years to fix oout a week?

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Speaker 1: How's a week? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: How a week?

741
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Speaker 1: How six days?

742
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, it's make it worse.

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Speaker 3: That's what you got. Yeah, that's what you got to

745
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Speaker 3: deal with.

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's go to Gary in New Mexico. Gary,

747
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Speaker 4: you're on talking Cowboys. Heks for the call again. What's

748
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Speaker 4: going on?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys. There was a Jone Jets song when I

750
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Speaker 11: was in high school called I Hate Myself for Loving You,

751
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Speaker 11: and that is my song for the Cowboys. I just

752
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 11: can't break free, man. And even after as bad as

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Speaker 11: they look Sunday, I'm still cautiously optimistic. And let's think

754
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Speaker 11: about this. And y'all have talked about this, son, but

755
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Speaker 11: this is a new defensive scheme. You're going up against

756
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 11: a New Orleans team that's running a new scheme, so

757
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Speaker 11: it's an uncommon opponent. We got a lot of young

758
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Speaker 11: guys out there playing Overshown's basically a rookie coming off

759
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Speaker 11: of a bad knee injury. Digs Is coming off a

760
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Speaker 11: bad injury. You got a rookie corner on the other side,

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Speaker 11: and then you look around the league. Look at what

762
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Speaker 11: happened to the Rams, look at what happened to Philadelphia

763
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Speaker 11: and San Francisco and Baltimore. It was just one of

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Speaker 11: those weeks, man, where things went differently than we all expected.

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Speaker 11: I have confidence that they can get this corrected and

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Speaker 11: get this fixed and still do everything that we hope

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Speaker 11: that they can do. So I just like your thoughts

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Speaker 11: on that.

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Speaker 4: No, I appreciate the call, and it does provide a

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Speaker 4: little bit of context when you do look around the league.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, this is not giving an excuse to

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Speaker 3: how Dallas played on Sunday, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Who things can be true, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But there was a ten game slate and it did

775
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Speaker 3: not disappoint Saints, of course beating Dallas. The Raiders upset

776
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Speaker 3: the Ravens in Baltimore, and now the Ravens are a

777
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Speaker 3: little upset coming in here. On Sunday.

778
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Speaker 4: The Bucks upset the Lions in Detroit, Vikings upset the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Commanders kick a.

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Speaker 4: Walk off field goal to win a divisional game. Seahawks

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Speaker 4: win in overtime, Malik Willis somehow leads the Packers to

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Speaker 4: a w and a lot of people didn't even know

784
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Speaker 4: that Milik Willis was on the Packers until he started

785
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Speaker 4: that game because Jordan loved Is out Aaron Rodgers first

786
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Speaker 4: win as a jet. I mean, there are so many

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Speaker 4: different things that happened in the second week. What that

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Speaker 4: tells me is the NFL is back.

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Speaker 1: It's the second week.

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Speaker 3: It's the second week. It's September football.

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Speaker 4: Like Mike McCarthy talks about, there are so many things

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Speaker 4: that can go right. There's so many things that can

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Speaker 4: go wrong, and unfortunately you were just on the wrong

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Speaker 4: side of it for one week. You can fix it, though,

795
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Speaker 4: and that's kind of what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 1: And that's I.

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Speaker 4: Believe where the caution and optimism comes from from Gary, is.

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Speaker 3: You can fix it.

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Speaker 4: Outside of those guys that are coming back from big injuries,

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Speaker 4: outside of those guys that are youthful on the offensive

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Speaker 4: and defensive sides.

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Speaker 3: They have all pros scattered at every level of this

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Speaker 3: football team.

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Speaker 4: They can find a way to win football games, and

805
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Speaker 4: they will win football games.

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Speaker 3: You just can't get.

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Speaker 5: Blown out at home like that. That's where I have

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Speaker 5: the one knock back one hundred percent. It's disappointing, it

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Speaker 5: really is. But again, like we talked about, it is

810
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Speaker 5: week two and there's a long season ahead of us.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot we haven't even met a divisional opponent yet, right,

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Speaker 5: so I am withholding too much criticism. Like I really

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Speaker 5: didn't like the run game at all. I'm worried about

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Speaker 5: the receiving corps at this point. I would feel like

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Speaker 5: a move would I think a move at wide receiver

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Speaker 5: would be more beneficial than running back. Really, outside of

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Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb, Tolbert had nine targets or in total this season,

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Speaker 5: Tolbert has nine targets seven receptions. Brandon cook Is nine targets,

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Speaker 5: six receptions.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem.

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Speaker 4: If Jalen target or Jalen Tolbert's getting targeted more than

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Speaker 4: as much as brand Cooks, that's an issue. That's what

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Speaker 4: we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 5: With more yards than Brandon Cooks, by the way, but

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Speaker 5: is that on Cooks. I think that's on the lack

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Speaker 5: of I think that is.

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Speaker 1: Is it somewhat when he's targeted, does he come down

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Speaker 1: with the ball?

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Speaker 5: What was it against six on nine targets? For Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: So for the most part, when he's targeted, he comes down.

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Speaker 5: Tulbert has more receptions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you got to throw the football, but

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Speaker 4: a lot of times you're getting targeted because you're open

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Speaker 4: or because you have space.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too concerned. I agree with wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: And I say this because going into the season, I

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Speaker 6: said Jake Ferguson was going to be the number two

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Speaker 6: receiver mm hm, and he but when it's all said

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Speaker 6: and done, he will be the number two receiver. And

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Speaker 6: he wasn't on the field for week two, but he'll

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Speaker 6: be on the field knock on wood for week three.

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Speaker 10: Ye.

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Speaker 1: So your number two receiver is not a receiver.

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Speaker 5: I think outside of that, though, who are who are

845
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Speaker 5: defenses afraid of a side outside of Cde Lamb and

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Speaker 5: outside of Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: No one afraid, No one right here?

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Speaker 5: I think that is a problem.

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Speaker 1: But you have a problem, but you have Here's where

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Speaker 1: here's what we differ.

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Speaker 6: You're not wrong in that capacity, You're not wrong at

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Speaker 6: any capacity because it's your opinion. But what I view

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Speaker 6: it as if you're talking about possibly making a trade

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Speaker 6: at wide receiver as being more beneficial than making a

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Speaker 6: trade at running back. You have to look at talent levels, right.

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Speaker 6: You have far more talent in your wide receiver room

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Speaker 6: than you have in the running backs room.

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Speaker 1: Right, Because even if you even if.

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Speaker 4: Starting from floor two versus starting from Florida and trying

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Speaker 4: to get to the third life.

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Speaker 6: Because even if you say, you know, Cooks got off

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Speaker 6: to a hot start in Cleveland, but kind of slowed

863
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: he cooled in week two.

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Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent accurate. But he's still.

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Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks and a multi time thousand yard receiver, still

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Speaker 6: still operating at a high level. You got Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson. You know tober It is capable. Jalen Brooks

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Speaker 6: is capable when he doesn't stumble on the route. But

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Speaker 6: he doesn't do that because we've seen him, you know,

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Speaker 6: make plays more often than not when given an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: How about getting Kavante Turpin more involved in the passing

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Speaker 6: game as well? Where's Kvante Turpin's targets? You see what

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Speaker 6: I mean? So you have an abundance of talent and

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Speaker 6: ability at wide receiver that, from my opinion, doesn't warrant

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Speaker 6: you needing to give up capital to go and get one.

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: But if you're talking about the running backs room, I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't say do it right now, but I would say

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 6: if in a couple of weeks, and that includes having

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Speaker 6: seen Dalvin Cook a couple of times, if that's still

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: not working, then you can honestly look back at the

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Speaker 6: beginning of the season, before the season got underway and say, well,

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Speaker 6: that was.

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Speaker 1: A question going in.

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Speaker 6: You weren't wondering if you would make a trade at

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's because of a talent deficiency. It

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Speaker 6: goes to how are you scheming, how are you targeting?

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Speaker 6: Get Kavante Turpin more involved, stretch the field a little

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Speaker 6: more often, get Cooks more involved a little bit earlier

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Speaker 6: I mean when I say I wouldn't trade for a

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Speaker 1: And this is not a team that.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take our second break because we've got

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Speaker 4: This segment has brought to you by Envisi Line, the

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Speaker 4: Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez. I'm Kyle Yemas with Chris Beam

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Speaker 4: in the back, and we've got Dylan from Northport, Florida

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Speaker 4: on the line.

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Speaker 3: Dylan, what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Hey guys, how's going today?

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 4: I know you're very involved with storyline, but it's good

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Speaker 4: to have you on the Talking Cowboys side of things too.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. And I tuned in just a little while ago

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Speaker 10: heard you guys talking about their own backs and thought

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Speaker 10: i'd chime in. My thought on the whole thing with

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Speaker 10: Dalvin Cook is that if you're gonna elevate him, I

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Speaker 10: see people wanting to take down Deuce and give up

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Speaker 10: on him and I'm just like, if you have Zeke

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Speaker 10: and Cook on the roster in the game day roster

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Speaker 10: at the same time, if you have an unnecessary redundancy

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Speaker 10: between their skill sets, and you also created a void

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Speaker 10: on special teams as well, because none of those guys

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Speaker 10: are gonna play special teams at that point. And if

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Speaker 10: you look at the production from last week from the

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Speaker 10: Saints game, if you take out Zeke's big fifteen yard

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Speaker 10: scame for you having the broken play deuce averaged a

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Speaker 10: full yard more for touch than Zeke did. So I'm

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Speaker 10: considering putting down Zeke if I elevate Cook, but I'm

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Speaker 10: not doing that just yet. I don't think you can

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Speaker 10: really judge much based off of the Saints game with

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Speaker 10: the negative script and everything that went wrong in that game.

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Speaker 10: I'm giving it another week before I do anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I like it, Dylan.

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Speaker 4: That's a phenomenal take, I think Dylan Dylan does because

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Speaker 4: it does it plays a factor with special teams, and

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Speaker 4: that was one of the things that I think Isaiah

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Speaker 4: has talked about it on the show before. But if

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Speaker 4: you're making a move and running back with Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 4: and bringing him in and you're going to elevate him.

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Speaker 4: He's not playing Special Teams, but neither is Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 4: So if you are having one in the same in

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Speaker 4: terms of production one way or the other, then why not. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll reactivate. Yeah, Rico's not doing it either, you can.

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Speaker 4: That's That's kind of my.

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Speaker 5: Point, is it, Ezekiel Elliott?

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Speaker 6: So I mean, I have a and we were talking

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Speaker 6: about this before the show started a little bit of

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Speaker 6: solution to this because I don't believe in deactivating duce

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Speaker 6: von I'm with Dylan there.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that's the solution whatsoever. I don't either.

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Speaker 6: I think earn that right now. I think a solution

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Speaker 6: is to increase the value of duce Vaughan. And this

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Speaker 6: is how you do it. You add him to the

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Speaker 6: special teams mix. One Thomas has definitely been solid as

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Speaker 6: far as returning uh the return game. But I would

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Speaker 6: like to see one Ye Thomas take the reps or

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Speaker 6: they I would like to see them Bones and Mike

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Speaker 6: Zimmer take the reps out of one YEA Thomas his

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Speaker 6: special team bucket and put them in the defensive bucket.

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Speaker 6: Get him rotating in more often on the defense. Kind

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Speaker 6: of help on that back And now who do you

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Speaker 6: put back there with Juan Ye Thomas, I say Duce Vaughan, right,

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Speaker 6: either ric o'dowdle or duce Von. But let's say duce

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Speaker 6: Von because what you're finding is teams are kicking away

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Speaker 6: from Cavante Turpin and wisely so because I would do

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Speaker 6: the same, but they're kicking to a less explosive Juan

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Speaker 6: Ye Thomas maybe forced them to kick it to between

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Speaker 6: Deuce Vaughan and Rico Dawdle.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you Dylan on this one. I say,

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Speaker 1: keep Deuce.

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Speaker 6: Going, find a way to get him more involved on

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Speaker 6: the offense, but find a way to get him involved

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Speaker 6: in special teams because he can return the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and one or the other Zeke or Daubtle, if

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Speaker 4: they end up making a move, it's going to be

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Speaker 4: the way to squarely on their shoulders, I think, because

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Speaker 4: Duce has done a nice job in terms of showing

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Speaker 4: a willingness to block and sure in terms of production

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Speaker 4: yards per carry, receiving out of the backfield, he can

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Speaker 4: do all those different things he just I mean, and

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Speaker 4: he's some power to his again in terms of size, of course,

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Speaker 4: it's a different question. But if you're getting Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 4: and elevating Dalvin Cook, you get some of that size back.

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Speaker 5: And like designed throws to the running backs too, like

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Speaker 5: Zeke has a seventy seven point five receiving grade on

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Speaker 5: Pro Football Focused. I think involving them more in the

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Speaker 5: passing game as well is going to pay huge dividends

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Speaker 5: for them, especially for a guy like Deuce who is shifty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you nat their hands in Saquon Barkley ooh.

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Speaker 3: Throwing some shots at the end of the show. I

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Speaker 3: like it. I like it. We've got our advicey.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys defensive matchup preview tomorrow. Of course, the reigning MVP

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Speaker 4: is coming to town, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: He's got some guys with them.

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Speaker 5: They're owing to Henry Likely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would much rather at them have been one

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Speaker 3: on one.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're owing to. They're angry, they're upset.

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Speaker 4: They are coming to Dallas looking to do exactly what

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Speaker 4: the Saints did in Week two. How did the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: and especially the defense stop that from happening. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: about it tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys special Thanks to

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Speaker 4: all those who gave us a call, and we'll see

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Speaker 4: you next week for more Talking Tuesday for Chris Beam,

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Speaker 4: Josh Rodriguez, Patrick No se Walker. I'm Kyle Yoman saying

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Speaker 4: so long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow.

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