WEBVTT - 11/10/20 HOUR 2- Jim Gray 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.360 Sports Radio. Creative editing at its best or worst. Right there, 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.000 Second Hour Dan and The Dane's Dan Patrick Show. I'm 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.080 glad to have you on board. This in from Albert Brier. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:20.720 Steelers announced they have placed Ben Roethlisberger among four other 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:26.160 players on the COVID nineteen list. Doesn't mean he tested positive, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.880 but Albert Breer reporting Ben is on the COVID nineteen 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.280 list the Bengals. In the Steelers play this weekend, yes, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.960 Paulie or it's a Diana Racene of ESPN. Those players 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:38.680 will not be allowed to practice for the next five 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.479 days and the Bengals play at home versus the Steelers 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.920 on Sunday. They okay, So if we do the math here, 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.320 they're eligible to return in five days as long as 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.840 they test negative. Correct, That's what it appears. They would 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.880 be able to play Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengal without practice. Okay, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.320 all right, Phone calls are welcome. I think we have 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.160 a poll question, mcklevin, we're staying with with the Second Hour. Well, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.120 I put up, if you're a Jets fan, do you 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.000 want to be Owen sixteen and fifty five. Said yes, yeah, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.759 I'll take it. If it means I'm getting Trevor Lawrence. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.360 I'll take that. You know. It convinced me because I 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.800 couldn't remember if the Browns were Owen sixteen. I couldn't 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.760 even remember. Yeah, we remember the Lions, But okay, you 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.560 go Owen sixteen. In this day and age as sports, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.720 it used to be if you struck out one hundred 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.520 times in baseball, it was embarrassing. Now it doesn't matter. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.440 All right, So we lost. We didn't win a game 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.920 that year, but hey, we got Trevor Lawrence. If you 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.880 tell me the light at the end of the tunnel 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.640 is Trevor Lawrence and not an oncoming train that, I'm 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:44.399 okay with that. If we win by losing, okay, I'll 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.920 take the shame you went Owen sixteen. I'm okay with 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.720 that if it means I get Trevor Lawrence. Last night, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.800 the Jets nearly screwed it up, but the Patriots came 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.840 back and won thirty to twenty seven. It was exciting. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.680 It was a lot better game. And who would have 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.080 thought if you said Cam Newton Joe Flacco would be 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.360 better than Drew Brees against Tom Brady. Here's Cam Newton 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.720 on why the win was good for New England. You 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.280 know this was a division game. I much needed win 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.239 for multiple reasons, not only for the division, but also 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.440 you know, for our confidence and you know, we just 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.680 needed one in our opinion. You got a strong feet 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.680 here coming up this weekend. We just gotta get healthy 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.880 and just pair with a great week of practice that 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.680 we'll be around. They got the Ravens coming up. Cam 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.400 is not throwing a touchdown passis in the last four games. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.200 He did have two rushing touchdowns, and really maybe that's 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.360 his role. You know, he's never been a great pocket 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.920 passer's he can throw the deep ball. Certainly when he 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.280 started out in Carolina with Steve Smith, he could throw 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.720 the deep ball sort of lacks touch. Footwork has always 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.400 been an issue. But when he runs with the football 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.880 at that size and still with that speed, he's able 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.280 to make things happen. You saw that last night. Yeah, McLevin. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.720 If you're running back on the Patriots, are you ever 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.680 like and alacker back? Cam, I'm opening down there like 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.799 you're not touching the ball in the red zone, like, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.800 give no chance of getting a touchdown. Yeah, But Brady 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.400 did that all the time. They get to the one 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.720 yard line and Brady would sneak it in. They started 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.160 sneaking like the six with Cam he was just like 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.360 and in Carolina too, he would have run for fifteen 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.320 touchdowns and like the guy behind him. Isn't that the 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.600 reason why he gets in the Hall of Fame? Like? 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.919 Is that what puts him over? He's gotten I think 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:31.840 sixty six rushing touchdowns and an MVP. They got blown 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.760 out in the Super Bowl. But if he ends up 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.160 with eighty touchdowns, is that enough to get him in 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.400 as a quarterback? Be the greatest rushing quarterback of all 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.360 time or at least touchdown wise. Maybe Lamar Jackson approaches 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.480 that at some point. But is that enough for Cam Newton? 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.280 I don't know what his numbers are, and he's still 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.040 potentially has you know, three or four really good years. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.360 Yeah mclement oh, I was gonna say, also, do you 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.800 give him credit for being revolutionary? Like he ushered in 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.240 a new year of running quarterbacks timing wise a little 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.680 bit because they got Remember they went fifteen to one 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.960 and he ran like an unprecedented number of times and 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.040 boom comes Lamar Jackson. I don't know, or is he 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.640 so different than those guys, like, who's the guy who 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.560 ushered in this wave? Well, if Trump, like Randall Cunningham 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.039 was there at the front of the line, I don't 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.240 know if the Eagles used him or the Vikings used 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.640 him the way they probably should have because he was 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.960 he was Cam before Cam, I mean, an incredible athlete there. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:38.000 Steve Young started to run early and then realized at 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.080 his size he shouldn't. It became a great one of 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.880 the great pocket passers of all time. Michael Vick probably 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.479 would be the guy that feels like he ushered in that. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.520 But but he was so fast, Cams so big. There's 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.880 a difference in that Cam uses his body that like 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.920 he's a weapon there, whereas Vic was just trying to 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.800 out dart you. He was Vic was Tyler Murray before 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.159 Kyler Murray. That ability to just be quick and you know, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.880 outrun you and not get hit. Cam would take on 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.000 those hits. I still go back to that season opening 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.279 game Carolina against Denver a couple of years ago, and 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.920 you know, Trevathan, I think the linebacker got it. They 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.200 were just pounding Cam, but they treated him like he 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.760 was a running back. I have not seen, and I 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.680 think you can go back to was it Cam against 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.920 Atlanta years ago where it just felt like they teed 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.360 off on him and treated him like a running back 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.760 and the officials let that happen. Yeah, mclub. But there 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.400 was a Niners game where they just attacked him. Yeah, 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.360 that's it. But Cam won't go down though, So how 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.640 are you supposed to get I saw a safety just 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.720 run up and hit Cam as hard as he could. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.720 He just slopped him off like a little kid. So 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.240 how I don't understand that. The NFL after the Broccolos 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.160 game said these are all legal hits because down in 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.200 the field, you know, well, he's outside the tackles and 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.159 he does outweigh some of those guys. Yeah, when you're 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.640 on the field. Now, there are times when I've been 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.400 on the field and you'll go, that guy's not as 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.080 big as I thought. There are certain running backs, wide 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.240 receivers where you go, wow, he's a lot smaller, And 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.039 I think when Cam walks on the field, you go, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.280 he is a lot bigger than I thought. I mean, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.920 he looks like he stepped off the bus for an 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.440 NBA team. Plus he's not only tall like Matt Ryan 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.880 is tall. Cam is tall, and he is jacked. He's 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.600 a big guy. He looks like he'd be the tight end. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.279 If you go, oh, here's our tight end here, and 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.920 you go, oh, okay, and you realize that's the quarterback. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.640 Ben is a lot bigger than you think in person. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.039 Julian Edelman was so much smaller than I thought. There's 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.640 and all these running backs and defensive backs feel like 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.640 they're about five eight and they're all built similarly. But 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.440 Cam's one of those guys where he comes on the 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.880 field and go, yeah, that's Cam Newton. Yeah, you know 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.240 who always truck me. Marshall Falk doesn't look like he'd 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.800 be the fastest, baddest man in the NFL. In person, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.760 He's this kind of a little guy, right, he's not jacked. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.320 I didn't think he was fast, But I think he's 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.360 one of the smartest players who's ever played the game, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:20.239 because I remember Peyton Manning would talk about Marshall Falk 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.080 that Peyton said Marshall knew the offense the way he did, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.160 like he thought as a quarterback at the running back position. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.320 All right, we got way ahead of ourselves here. Welcome 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.280 to the program. Already in progress. Jim Gray has written 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:38.520 a book called Talking to Goats Goats Greatest of All Time, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.600 and it's a great read, an easy read. And he'll 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.640 join his coming up here in a little bit. Just 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.640 all the places he's been, all the people that he's 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.480 been around last time. I like how you referred to 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.680 him as the Forrest Gump of sports that just happens 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.440 to be everywhere that anything remotely interesting happened. Jim Gray 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.640 finds a way to be there. Now he's still doing 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.680 my anger. I did cut interrupt, I jump the gun 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:05.080 a little to that. Okay, are you done now? I'm okay, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.320 thank you ton. Uh yeah, what Jim has done. And 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.000 you know he's there with Richard Nixon. Richard Nixon sees 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.600 him on the street, brings him in his car and 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.520 they talk. Yes, I'm saying Jim Gray is the Forrest 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:25.240 Gump of sports reporter in the street. No, the president, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.680 Richard Nixon says to Jim, get in the car, and 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.119 he talked of football. I guess for forty five minutes 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.160 he's been he's Jim's been there. And then Elvis got 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:40.080 in the car. No, yes, Elvis, and he uh said 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.400 Jim come on, I want to talk to music. Yes, Ton, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.040 does he get invited to all these things? Or is 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.160 he kind of tag along and invites himself. I always 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.000 wondered that to be somewhere all the time. He's walking 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:53.400 in the street and President Nixon is in his limousine, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.520 sees Jim and invite I'll let Jim tell the story, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.000 because didn't Forrest Gump each Richard Nixon and Elvis Presley. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.480 And then in Forrest Gump is in his hotel and 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.720 he noticed some commotion at the hotel across the way, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.040 and he calls Martin Luther King. He called. He calls 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.240 for the front desk, and it was the Watergate Hotel. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.800 You guys, here's some guys. I can't do the Forrest cup. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.800 You go. There's some guys with flashlights keeping me up, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.000 and they pan away. Of course it's the Watergate Hotel. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.400 And Jim Grawory says life was like a box of cookies. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.480 So that's very similar to the box of chocolates line 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:28.640 that you had a good first hour. We had no 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.440 gas first hour, and you still had a decent first down. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.600 Thank you, toddlco alrighty, some phone calls coming up, age 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.679 seven seven three D P show. You know it didn't 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.360 just dawn on me with the Jets. I don't need 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.199 to pick on the Jets, but I don't like the uniforms. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.160 I love the helmets. I don't like the uniforms. It's 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.480 too dark and i'd like to freshen that up a 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.400 little bit, you know, in time for Trevor Lawrence next year. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.120 I'd like to because Trevor wearing the Clemson colors. I mean, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.000 those are bright. I need the need are the Jets. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:05.600 It's the worst nflims close. The Jets. Helmets are really nice. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.600 The green and the helmets are nice. Once you go 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.719 neck down, it's this mishmash of black and it's undescribable. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.080 It makes your offensive linemen look thinner than they are, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.320 so they look less imposing. But the worst uniforms currently 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.600 in the NFL. Are you ready for this? Okay? Who 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.040 do you think I'm gonna pick? I've given us a 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.640 lot of thought, and you know I do this no 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.080 because the Jaguars can be so ugly. They're cool, you know, 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.599 like if you go back to the Houston Astros in 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.040 the eighties, so ugly or cool, or the Padres. The 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.120 Philadelphia Eagles had the worst NFL uniforms. And here's why 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:44.280 they're boring. They're forgettable. They're uninspired. Um, they're they have 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.280 this like uninspired green if Benjamin Moore was calling it. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.480 They call it uninspired green. It's the color because it's 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.280 this green gray blue. Um, they've got like this neck 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.280 thing with green. The the helmets now this dark green 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.560 almost black color, so it doesn't match. And then and 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.800 the other thing that makes Eagles so bad is they've 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.040 had great uniforms in the past. If you go back 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.480 to the Randall Cunningham days and the Kelly Green uniforms, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.800 they could have those, and they choose these horrendous uniforms. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.080 People will say there's worst uniforms, but these are the 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.679 most uninteresting uniforms and bad. It feels like the Jets 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.520 and Eagles the same designer correct created those. Yes he can. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.000 I throw in the Giants for incredibly boring uniforms. Great 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.480 helmet though I love the color their their uniforms are 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:35.560 so boring. Well, just like the Giants also boring. Yeah, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.640 on the opposite end, did you guys see the Chargers 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.920 on Sunday and that get up They had whoa the 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.360 dark blue? Oh man, that's different. And the Saints all white? 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:49.559 I like too, I do like the Saints all white. Yeah, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.280 I'm all in on that. All right, let me get 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.000 a color. I just love how excited Paul was there 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.240 with all the dark blue. Well, you know there is 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.280 you know eagle. Those are uninteresting, like the Atlanta Falcons. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.160 Uniforms are awful, but at least new and maybe a 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.600 couple of eight year olds like them. But everything all 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.920 else fails. Just go black. That's it. Hey, we got 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.000 new uniforms. Yeah, I'm gonna guess black. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.760 all black. That's the way to go. Yeah. My tweets 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.920 and it was complaining that the Browns have always had 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.800 orange uniforms. How did that start? That they've the Browns 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.920 are orange? That is kind of weird when you think 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.600 about it. It's like browns like browns, like orange and 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.959 brown together. They can they created their own color. It's 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.800 named after Paul Brown, yes, yes, but still they should 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.520 have made brown uniforms back. Well they did that. It 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.040 was a Cleveland the Cleveland Browns for Paul Brown. But 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.439 the uniform, the jersey was brown. Yes, this day in 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.880 Brown's uniform history. Nineteen fifty the Browns instrue solid orange 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.040 helmets for the first time and orange stripes. They used 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.760 to be brown and white in the fifties, they introduced 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.240 some orange. Second installment of the award winning drama Saved 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.319 Me comes to Peacock. Save Me two, my father searched 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.440 for his missing daughter continues. This season brings more secrets, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.920 more suspects, more surprises. Start streaming Save Me two on 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:12.839 Peacock where you can watch this show and you can 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.120 listen on our great radio affiliates around the country. Jonathan 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:22.000 and Pennsylvania's back. Hi, Jonathan, what's on your mind? Hey? What? Hey? 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.880 I was over hearing the love is saying that maybe 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.840 Justice stew wants to go to Jess. It's just immedia speculation, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.760 you know. Um yeah. The NFC East, that's you know, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.480 all former are the worst team. You know, they're doing 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:42.800 bad performance Like yesterday, Jerry Don't just stated that Dak 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.240 press as our part of back it easier Quarterback. I 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.079 know we talked about the copy was every single day 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:54.000 because they're the America's team. But Dak Prescott if easier quarterback, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.040 you should have been signing it instead of being a 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:01.040 franchise tag. Now Dak Prescott is injured, well less you 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.280 think he's gonna be injured against They said it's ankle 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.000 fracture because if you run like that again, he's gonna 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.040 get injured again. So I'm gonna have Justin Field or 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.240 Charlan as the back full quarterback. All right, Well, I 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.320 we talked about that yesterday, Jonathan, and that is if 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.199 you can get a rookie. If you said I could 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.200 have Justin Fields or Dak Prescott next year, I would 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.400 take Justin Fields because this is about the financial aspect 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.040 moving forward for the next five years with that contract. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.760 Do I want to spend thirty eight million dollars on 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.160 Dak Prescott or I'm going to be spending nine million 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.880 dollars a year. Like there's no middle ground. Dak's not 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.640 going to take twenty twenty two, twenty four, twenty five. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.080 And if I can get Justin Fields and I and 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.640 if he checks out and he you know, I don't 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.080 know how good he is. You know, playing at Ohio 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.520 State is strange that it feels like there's so much 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.800 talent around you. I don't know if you can get 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.400 a true assessment of those uarterbacks at Ohio State. You 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:06.000 know Cardale Jones. He was great, but he wasn't an 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.440 NFL quarterback. I don't know if Dwayne Haskins is a 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:13.200 starting quarterback. I think he can play. I don't know 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.040 how great he is because I saw him at Ohio State, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.400 and I still go back to the Michigan game. Those 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.400 wide receivers, the wide and wide receiver was for wide 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:28.200 open because they were wide open. Throws a great ball, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.360 But I don't know, if you know, is he a 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.400 great quarterback? Can he be a great quarterback? I have 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.320 no idea. I think it's really hard to assess some 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.800 quarterbacks at some schools. By the way, I said I 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:45.680 was going to have a Pack twelve offering here, it's 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.560 I don't know if it's worthy of that. The whole 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.160 West Coast is way okay. So the MAC is playing tonight. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.160 There's three games tonight. If I'm the PAC twelve and 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.240 I want to own a night own a day, why 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.000 don't I just play Wednesday night football? Because you're playing 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:05.960 at nine am West Coast time now, and you're a 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.720 West Coast fan, You're going, what are we doing? Like 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.480 what happened to the PAC twelve, the artist formerly known 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.400 as the PAC twelve. If I just say we're playing 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.480 Wednesday night and it's PAC twelve night and you're playing 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:25.320 those games, then I would seriously consider that because you 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.520 want to be relevant. You're not relevant unless you go, hey, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.240 we're on at nine am in the morning. Okay, but 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:37.960 Arizona State USC snuck up on people. People on the 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.160 East coast. It's snuck up on You're like, wait what? 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.720 But it feels like these are desperate times for the 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.960 PAC twelve and just being relevant. You want people to 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.320 see Oregon. Is Oregon going to be a team that 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:58.280 we would put in the top ten, top five? The 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.360 MAC feels more relevant than the PAC twelve, and that 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:11.800 should never happen. Why not just own Wednesday night? Saturday 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.480 night used to be a big deal for the PAC 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:18.760 twelve and loved watching those games late at night, East 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.880 Coast time because I don't want to have an East 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.960 Coast bye, so of course, but I at this stage 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.040 right now, I don't know how many games you get in. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.160 You've already had one game canceled and you just want 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.240 to get Can we get six seven games in here? 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.840 Can we have somebody watch us? Can we have somebody 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.760 right about us. It's like the standalone game on Thursday 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.000 night always gets so much attention written about it, and 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.360 it's by default because it's Thursday night. The PAC twelve 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.680 needs somebody to be watching. Yeah, I'm a club. This 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.400 is going to sound very contrarian, but maybe the PAC 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.480 twelve is like orienting itself around like academics and not. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.879 They don't feel like these programs are all in. I 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.639 mean USC, I feel these are the scandal, like it's 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.720 stepping back. They don't want to be a jock school 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.600 because of the lawsuit and stuff and Washington all these schools, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.440 Like I don't know, like why do they I don't 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.040 know why it's such a big deal for a PAC twelve. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.160 Dega can't you do both? Why can't you do both? 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.360 You can't do both? You can't I mean Notre Dame. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.600 It's finally back in. But you can't have high academic 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.560 standards and have like the best team in the country, right, 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.160 isn't that what just having a relevant team? That Pact 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.560 twelve is not relevant and it's a shame because it 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.760 feels like there's a big four not a big five anymore. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.359 And you know the Pac twelve network has not been successful, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.080 and there's so much talent, certainly out there on the 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.119 West coast, and it just feels like this is a 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.199 lost season for them. But like like UCLA does not 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.840 they are not going to spend on football. Like there's 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.240 like we've heard that a million times. I know that. Yeah, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.400 I know that Cal is not going to do that. Well, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.320 the Pac twelve should decide what it wants to be. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:03.680 Then Stanford's had both They've had success academic standards. I mean, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.080 it works. I know that Michigan's talked about how you 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.400 know they Rich Rodriguez came to Jim Harball's defense saying that, hey, 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.680 you can't get everybody in that you want to get in. Now, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.399 Notre Dame same thing. They can't get in everybody they 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.480 want to get in. I still go back and I'll 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.399 take a break because Jim Gray is going to join us. 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.720 But urban Meyer when he was going, he was looking 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.800 at the Notre Dame job. Now this this came from 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.239 Jerome bettis the Notre Dame grand and he said they 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:33.960 were trying to get urban Meyer to take the Notre 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.000 Dame job. I guess he went through South Ben and 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.280 he said, how many players can I get in who 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.800 might be on the cutting line the edge here, and 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.919 I think they said you could get one now, lou 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.120 Holt Scott two each year where they admitted somebody they 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.399 probably like Tony Rice. I think they admitted that they 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.439 wouldn't have admitted during normal circumstances. And he won a 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.080 national title. Yeah, poling other schools down south, they work 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.040 in two smart kids. Hey, let's get a kick. He 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.400 with a four pointzer and old tim Yeah, we gotta 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.520 we gotta get somebody who's got a good, great point 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.719 average to raise that up. But I'll walk on with 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.159 like bangs with a four point zero. Urban Meyer just 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.320 kept going. He's like, I'm gonna head down to Florida. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.199 Like I'm I'm going to pass through here, and this 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.080 is Drone Bettas telling me the story. He's like, we 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.600 were trying to say, come on, you take the job. 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.280 I got one guy who might not get in normally. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.560 And then he was like, I'm gonna keep going south 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.960 and heading to Florida. 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