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Speaker 1: Look up, Fads, I'm your house chat. I am the host,

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Speaker 1: Chad Noman. You're not allowed to mock me in front

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Speaker 1: of me. You two were almost insane podcast. That's like,

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Speaker 1: it's it's disrespectful. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that nasily. Am I that nasily? Now you are?

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Speaker 1: You know what's nice? You know what's nice? Black Jack?

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Speaker 1: You and I together again, staring into each other's eyes,

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Speaker 1: me getting a close look at your chest hair and

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Speaker 1: gold rope chain behind your gold lemon jackie it in

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Speaker 1: which you are wearing no shirt, no shirt together again.

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Speaker 1: Oh how I've missed you for the first time in

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Speaker 1: like months. Actually, yeah, you know what happened. I blame

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Speaker 1: Matt Ford, the producer. I'm blaming matt Ford for not

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Speaker 1: being the room right now. So I'm blaming Thatt Forward

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Speaker 1: for not being here and leaving Antonio to mock me.

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Speaker 1: If Matt was HERERI would have mocked you worse. So true.

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Speaker 1: Um no, but Matt Ford somehow decided to tear us

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Speaker 1: apart in sort of the way we did the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I, being a leader, was like I'm putting my

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Speaker 1: foot down. There's all more more crap. You call it

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Speaker 1: being a leader. I'm just gonna say you were jealous

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Speaker 1: that me and Lduca became closer than me and you.

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Speaker 1: You and Lduca have a very popular radio show on

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Speaker 1: Shannon Lady seven, the Fantasy Network on Sirius every morning

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Speaker 1: from nine to eleven a m. Eastern CC that comment

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Speaker 1: to my agent, you don't need uh, you don't need

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Speaker 1: more pack past time. You and I, however, you know

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Speaker 1: what we need to do. This is like were like

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Speaker 1: couples counsels thing and more like preseason, like we're getting

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Speaker 1: season because the last one went so well. You and me, baby,

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Speaker 1: You and me? You think the song is you and I?

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Speaker 1: So that's proper grammar? No nobody baby but you. I

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Speaker 1: think it's like you're just making something up. No, it's

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Speaker 1: by Penny in the Quarters. Okay, that's not a thing.

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Speaker 1: How much you want to bet? I'm literally looking at Antonio.

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Speaker 1: Are you looking it up? All right? Both of you

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Speaker 1: guys can look it up. Are you ready to do

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Speaker 1: some hardcore gambling conversation? Hard core? Because if you're not

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Speaker 1: hard we got Eastern Conference finals tied to two. We

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Speaker 1: got Western Conference finals sweep. We got NBA finals that

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Speaker 1: we got to discuss. We got Stanley Cup Finals that

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Speaker 1: we got to discuss. You had Dale Earnhardt Jr. On

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Speaker 1: The Show and the Serious Show. There's a couple of

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Speaker 1: questions I want to ask you about that. Do you

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Speaker 1: features that. Sure, what do you want to talk about? First?

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about NBA? We should probably go

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Speaker 1: with what's relevant topically and go with the NBA. Look

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Speaker 1: at you, You've got a radio show and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, I know what we should do

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Speaker 1: on something? Someone talk about something relevant topically, Like you've

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Speaker 1: be the adult in the room, and somehow that's become me.

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Speaker 1: Why are you looking at Antonio when you say that,

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Speaker 1: because he knows he knows people see what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Six months? Still have your job over under me? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Six months to any of us have a job question?

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Speaker 1: You've made me become the adult in the room. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the what's a line on that? You said? Six months? Under?

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Speaker 1: Network minus one. I would take the plus money on that.

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Speaker 1: usurping your role. It's not slow. This is a is

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Speaker 1: the long con. I'm so keen politically. I know how

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Speaker 1: think of the Bucks Raptors? Uh, let's talk about it

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Speaker 1: all right, you're taking too long. I like Toronto was

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I did think it was weird.

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Speaker 1: way both of these cities, this is not gambling specific,

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Speaker 1: And that that's the thing that I've really enjoyed about

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Speaker 1: I think that line is stupid. Is Milwaukee man seven

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Speaker 1: So I probably won't bet Milwaukee minus seven. It's but

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Speaker 1: I do think Milwaukee wins the game. Um, they played

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Speaker 1: They're a great team. Your honest is great, But the

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Speaker 1: Raptors are a team that's been tested. They've been down

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna stop him, but like, can we talk

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Speaker 1: free throw line? Chad? He had two air balls? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That was a shocking moment. He did that too yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I was stunned. Maybe he's learning from us, that's not likely.

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Speaker 1: Um broken clock, my man? How many? So Janice? His uh?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I completely Would you regret that decision

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Speaker 1: every day? I regret. Regret When you get everything, I'll

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Speaker 1: regret it then, but until then, I'm not gonna regret it.

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Speaker 1: But seriously, why would you leave Golden State if you're durnt?

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Speaker 1: Like what why would you do that? Why do you

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Speaker 1: leave ESPN if your moment Well, because ESPN the magazine

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Speaker 1: was going out of business. I was in then. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even running ESPN the magazine. I was running something

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Speaker 1: bigger who already ran that into the ground. So I

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Speaker 1: wanted to try to save it. I think I made

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Speaker 1: my point, right, You made a bad decision. So Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durance going make one. You make the decision, because sometimes

435
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Speaker 1: you want to go off and strike on your own.

436
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Speaker 1: Like he didn't get it done in Oklahoma City, he

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Speaker 1: got it done in Golden State. He seems to be

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Speaker 1: a very prideful person who takes snipes at people on

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Speaker 1: Instagram when they're sort of making comments about this. So like,

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to go out and prove that

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Speaker 1: he could do it himself. But let me ask you something.

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Speaker 1: Would you disagree that he seems soft personally. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking on the court. I mean like he seems to

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Speaker 1: be bothered by like the noise and what people say

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Speaker 1: about him soft. I think he seems sensitive. Okay, then

446
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Speaker 1: is New York the place to go? Chad? This is

447
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Speaker 1: the place to go because I've heard people say he's

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Speaker 1: going to New York. That's what everyone is saying. Let

449
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Speaker 1: me ask you, is that the place for an athlete

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Speaker 1: like that? Definitely not. No, it's not go back to

451
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City? All right? Well, we both agree we're gonna

452
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Speaker 1: be on Golden State regardless of whether or not Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant place. Uh. Here's something I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: from your and it's gambling related from your show on

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Speaker 1: Serious Dale Learn how Jr. Was on the show and

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Speaker 1: he talked about how when he was driving some days

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Speaker 1: he would like check in with his you know, pit

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Speaker 1: manager or whatever pit crew on how his teams were

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Speaker 1: doing fantasy team's favorite teams. I have two thoughts on that. One,

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Speaker 1: knowing that, does it make you think differently about how

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Speaker 1: you want to bet on NASCAR drivers? And two do

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Speaker 1: you feel like it's cool that Dale Arnow was so

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Speaker 1: into fantasy that he's checking on his team while he's

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Speaker 1: driving a hundred eight miles an hour. Yeah? I mean

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Speaker 1: it blew my mind to hear the audio because we

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Speaker 1: had the audio on serious Um of him in the

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Speaker 1: car driving around the track and asking his pit crew

468
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Speaker 1: what's going on with the Redskins game, and they're like,

469
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Speaker 1: the Lions are up seven nothing. Stafford just threw a touchdown.

470
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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, man, you know, but who caught it?

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Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't know. I've got Golden

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Speaker 1: Tate on my fantasy team. And it's like, it's wild

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Speaker 1: to think that this dude is driving, like you said,

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Speaker 1: a hundred eighty miles an hour and he's just having

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Speaker 1: a normal back and forth conversation like we would driving

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Speaker 1: down the highway. How is it even possible, Like, if

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Speaker 1: you're driving a undred eighty miles, I feel like you

478
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Speaker 1: have to be full on concentrating the entire time. I

479
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Speaker 1: guess it just becomes second nature to him. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but he was. I mean, we had the audio of

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Speaker 1: him talking about it, and it's like, that's what he's

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Speaker 1: asking about on a Sunday. He wants to know how

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Speaker 1: his Redskins are doing. Huge Redskins fan wildly knowledgeable about

484
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Speaker 1: the Redskins. UM makes me really think about betting NASCAR

485
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Speaker 1: because it's a little strange. We have a at the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. We have a huge we have a nice

487
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Speaker 1: partnership going with NASCAR. You should go check out nascar

488
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Speaker 1: dot com. Go check out our stuff on nascar dot com.

489
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Speaker 1: They have really cool contests going on, like free to

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Speaker 1: play contests that we're writing about. UM As an organization,

491
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Speaker 1: they're really smart about betting and really thinking forward about

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Speaker 1: how to engage the fans. And the NASCAR is great

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Speaker 1: about that because they give you a lot of access, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, NASCAR gives the fans a lot of access.

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Speaker 1: It's a great sport. Like you can you can so

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Speaker 1: on the website, on the Serious channel and listen to

497
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Speaker 1: the in car audio, which is something you don't get

498
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Speaker 1: anywhere else. No, that's amazing. It's true. I'd slap you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say shut up. I'm not rude. The thing

500
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Speaker 1: about NASCAR, the thing that's betting. That's cool about betting Nascar.

501
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like getting betting golf, Like matchup

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Speaker 1: that's cool vaive like betting golf. Why do you keep

503
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Speaker 1: looking at your watch because I'm getting alerts their Action

504
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Speaker 1: Network alerts. Chat, I've got a bet on Cincinnati Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, I'm covering right now. All right. Secondly, since

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Reskins, I have two more things

507
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Speaker 1: I want to cover and then we gotta go. Uh

508
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: we just started, Yeah, but I gotta get back to

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Speaker 1: the office. UM. Number one, have you made any NFL

510
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Speaker 1: futures bets? I feel like we're gonna have to start

511
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Speaker 1: thinking about that for a show soon. I have not,

512
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Speaker 1: I have. It's too soon. No, it's not. It's it's

513
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: not too soon. To bet on the Colts. I bet

514
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Speaker 1: a bet eighteen to one. Now they're down to like

515
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Speaker 1: twelve to one. No, I know you don't you know

516
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Speaker 1: why Sharp? I don't hate the cults. I think the

517
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Speaker 1: cults have a really, really nice, nice shot. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: delivering the Sharp Report as we speak. Network product feature. UM,

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00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: get it in the app? Did you just want to

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00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: come back on this podcast to make it an infomercial?

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: I've done less for the Action Network today than you've

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00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: done from NASCAR on this podcast. Um, I've been on

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Speaker 1: the Action Network radio show for two hours telling people

524
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: to go download your apps. I was at the office

525
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: before you were on the radio show. Seriously, doubt that, sweetheart.

526
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Doing things that are bigger and better than anything you

527
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Speaker 1: can do on the radio. All right, well, then I

528
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Speaker 1: guess doesn't matter if I don't show up tomorrow. Second question,

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Speaker 1: have you made any MLV future bets during the season. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've got some bad future bets in baseball, let's hear

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Speaker 1: about it. I got the Mets to win the NL

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Speaker 1: you do not, and to win the World Series. Wow?

533
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Did Luduca convince you? Oh no, he wants nothing. He

534
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: says the Mets are horrible. He wants no part of that. Um.

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00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: I talked to Alex Hyacinth in our office for far

536
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: too long and convinced myself that the Yankees are seventy

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Speaker 1: nine win team and the Mets are going to the

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Speaker 1: World Series. Um so yeah, I've got those Mets futures,

539
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: holding a Rockies future that one's not looking round. But

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Speaker 1: I do have a Cubs future. When they were picked

541
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Speaker 1: to finish last in the NNL Central, I was like, this,

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00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Cubs are better than this twelve something like that. I

543
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: bought the Boston Red Sox at twelve to one when

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Speaker 1: they were sort of mired in a little bit of

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00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: a streak, and now they're coming out of it and

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00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: that price is going to go much lower, and I'm

547
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about it. Where does Dallas Kaickel sign?

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00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: That is a very good question. I don't know. Oh, look,

549
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: who the funk it is? This guy giggles, Thanks for coming, producer,

550
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Giggles the Chuckler. Well, I guess we're out of time today.

551
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: I just asked you, where's Dallas Kaiko going? I don't know.

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00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Give me a guest, Luduca. Who's he played for? Now? Nobody?

553
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: He's unsigned? Is a picture? Fucking done? This has been

554
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Speaker 1: the favorites from the Action network. Black jas just walking off?

555
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Just what did you give me? He's just done? Who's

556
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: he played for? Is he a picture? You run a

557
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Speaker 1: sports media company? Maybe I did it Jesus to make

558
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: you angry. I might have your job at three months.

559
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Speaker 1: You're so on edge today? Are you kidding me? You

560
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know who fucking Dallas Kike is. I know who

561
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Speaker 1: Dallas Kiko is. You don't know that he's an unsigned

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Speaker 1: free agent. I know all the is Blackjack, I know

563
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: everything apparently not. I also know that if like I

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: play as dumb as I possibly can, it's not hard

565
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: for you. It's good for it's good for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Kickle should be a San Diego Padre. I think

567
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: that's probably the right choice. They could use some pitching

568
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: big park. He's a flyball pitcher. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest mistake Machadow made was signing with the Padres.

570
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock him three million dollars to live

571
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: in San Diego for ten years. Not great for your career,

572
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Speaker 1: great for personally. Do you think that Bryce Harper should

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Speaker 1: have signed somewhere with better weather? Is that your point? Um? No,

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Speaker 1: But it depends on what your goals are. I mean,

575
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Speaker 1: when Bryce Harper signed with the Tigers, I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: But I hate everyone in this room right now. Um listen.

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Speaker 1: Lifestyle is a factor. Okay, it's a factor. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I were Kaiko, i'd try to go to what

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Speaker 1: do you think and what do you think that'll do

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00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: to the Padres? Adds, I don't think he'll sign in

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Speaker 1: San Diego. I think he should, but I don't you will.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a New York Yankee, is

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Speaker 1: what I think. I think Jay HAPs gonna get smacked

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Speaker 1: around one or two more times, and then the Yankees

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00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: will bring him in on a one year deal after

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00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: the draft in the first week of June, because then

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00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: they won't owe the compensatory pick and Dallas Kiko has

588
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: always pitched very well in Yankee Stadium. Granted it's been

589
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: as a visitor, but he's always pitched really well there,

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Speaker 1: So I think the Yankees will wind up bringing him.

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Speaker 1: What do you think that will do to the Yankees? Ads? Yankees?

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Speaker 1: I will drop him a little bit um. But I

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00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: think this Yankees team is not the team we're going

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Speaker 1: to see going into the postseason because when Stanton and

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00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Judge and Gregory is get back, they're gonna have some

596
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: tough decisions to make with some of these guys who

597
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: are playing really well right now. And I think they

598
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: wind up trading some of these guys for help in

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00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: their rotation. So Yankees will drop it, not by a lot,

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Speaker 1: all right. That is something for us to discuss next

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Speaker 1: time on the Action Network podcast. This has been the

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Speaker 1: Action Network podcast. That's not the name of it. No,

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Speaker 1: you're right? So true? Is this? Is there like a

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Speaker 1: fucking hidden camera in here? Is this for real? The

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Speaker 1: Action Network podcast? Do you know what happened? I was

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Speaker 1: checking an email while I started talking, and it said

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Speaker 1: Action Network, there and um, and then I just sort

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Speaker 1: of sentod this has been the favorites from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: We're together again. I think I think I can tell

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Speaker 1: by the redness in your chiefs that you've really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: That that Fletcher, I am Chad Milman. Download the podcast

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Speaker 1: from Apple, podcast from radio dot com, slash, the Action Network,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your podcast. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: I love you.