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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? Finished?

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Speaker 1: The horn just sounding there. All the players now gathered

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Speaker 1: Matt Canada out there talking to Connor Hayward and giving

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Speaker 2: I firmly believe. Again, I keep referencing this article I

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Speaker 2: was fiddling with this morning. I projected that his production

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Speaker 2: and snap counts triple this year. And it's a hard

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Speaker 2: offense to get involved in. You I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: But that's always the you know when anytime somebody said

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Speaker 1: on right exactly what that? Yeah, why isn't Washington out

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Speaker 2: Well? You know or you so? But I firmly believe,

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Speaker 2: especially watching practice day after day, Hayward is going to

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Speaker 2: a large part of this offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could see, you know, ten to

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I wrote the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. He's a weapon. And you know

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a Swiss Army knife up. The quarterbacks over

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe now they're doing some maybe it's just part.

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Speaker 1: Now they're doing some squats. I wonder how much we'll

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, my hunches and I wouldn't hold them against

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, probably not be nice to

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Speaker 1: Now, some of the younger guys you know, might stay

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Speaker 1: But the older guys, I know a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: If it's coming out here, but they're all kind of

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Speaker 1: You know, the little things that you didn't do well

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, But yes, I mean some of the offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: Now we get Rudolph throwing over the middle there to

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Speaker 1: Zach Gentry. I didn't see him miss that throw necessarily

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Speaker 2: He looks imposing out of pads.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see that he's throwing the ball back.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't be any more different.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't know, they could not, but they were like

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Speaker 2: Very different. But do you remember where Gentry's from originally?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we host the Pony League World Series every year

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Speaker 1: We get about about fifty kids that wind up trying out,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know we're assessing everything. You know, you

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a third basement that says I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't really play third base for his

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Speaker 2: Some guys around too, like, yeah, to the Wiz, kids

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the little things that you can do. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want your punner to be an athlete.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's on as easy job as you think.

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Speaker 1: You know. Well, he did it one time at Georgia

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Speaker 2: I mean, it comes up four times in your career

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Speaker 1: Right, unless unless you're Johnny Hecker and you do it

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Speaker 2: I mean he's the one laying the punches. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that's a pretty far throw. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yeah, boy can give him a little thumbs up after

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Speaker 2: But it's another perk to having a wide receivers. A gunner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That guy that's able to do that and be good

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not a corner or you know, it's some

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Speaker 1: It's not your typical gunner.

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Speaker 1: Three fives things like you know, they're just going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's his day four in the books, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you he's meticulous with this stuff. He was

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Speaker 1: He does all the little stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want him. I mean he's got thrown

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so see Isaac say, I'm all down there

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think you know, they all know what that

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Speaker 1: Eagles line was.

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Speaker 2: He even socks.

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Speaker 1: He might be, he might be it might be yeah,

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Speaker 1: they might be like, yeah, I mean he did in

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Speaker 1: practice today, so you can wear whatever he wants. Got

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Speaker 1: your feet step steped on. But right anyway, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take another break. Here he is Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lawlly. You're listening to The Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are live from

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Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here on the campus of Saint Vincent College,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more. He's The Drive with

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven Home of the Black and Gold SNR. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Practice has wrapped up here at Saint Vincent College, the

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Speaker 1: final unpadded practice of the twenty twenty three training camp,

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Speaker 1: and we really the off season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's a good way looking at Yeah. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's now full go.

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Speaker 1: It is now a full go.

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Speaker 2: He is no restrictions, no, you know, he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lowlly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. And even

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Speaker 1: though practice is over, there are still some guys out

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Speaker 1: there working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some offensive lineman still out They're getting some stuff done.

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Speaker 2: Big power over there too. Is that that's the nausey

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Speaker 2: signing autographs? I thought.

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Speaker 1: I believe he's over there meet throwing a little meet

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Speaker 1: and greet with some fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big problem over there. A lot of

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Speaker 2: kids on the field still too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I

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Speaker 2: love taking the kids on the field. Yep, a lot

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Speaker 2: of little ones.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin just got done this speaking to the media

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Speaker 1: about everything here, and I haven't yet seen anything that

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Speaker 1: from what he said about that, but yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: imagine he was asked a little bit about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: is he ready to get him into pads? The answer

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Speaker 1: to that is.

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Speaker 2: No, doubt about it. This was not a tease that

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Speaker 2: they got a lot of good work done here these

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Speaker 2: last couple of days, but it really does rev up

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I mean just the physicality of it all,

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Speaker 2: you know, the true football nature of it. Blocking, not

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Speaker 2: tackling so much, but i mean real blocking one on

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Speaker 2: one stuff. So I'm about ready for that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I can't wait to uh to get

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Speaker 1: out here on Tuesday. And I know another player who's

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Speaker 1: been looking forward to that is Levi Wallace because you know,

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Speaker 1: you can find some stuff out out here about the

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Speaker 1: players around you, but that that cornerback room is really turned.

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Speaker 2: Over, especially if Trice is a guy. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: if they if they, if we think if he's truly

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Speaker 2: a third round type prospect that they got in the

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Speaker 2: seventh for whatever reason, even if it's medical, that's a

498
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Speaker 2: really interesting room, you know. And how's that How does

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Speaker 2: that shake out? How do their rep shake out in

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Speaker 2: the preseason? And you know, I mean Patrick Peterson is

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Speaker 2: the leader now. It's just a real different dynamic than

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Speaker 2: it used.

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Speaker 1: To really is. And they're huge if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Wallace, he's making this roster.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, doubt.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's signed here last year and now basically the

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Speaker 1: entire room around him except for James Pierre, is new.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that. He was the new guy

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Speaker 2: right right, and now he's the the most tenured dude

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Speaker 2: on the team except for pre Air. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to us to pull him aside

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Speaker 1: earlier today and talk with talk with him about some

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. So I thought we'd play that back down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we go.

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Speaker 1: Everybody have a listen to what Levi Wallace had to say.

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Speaker 3: I'm out here having fun being a Steeler. You know.

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Speaker 3: Coach town is a great coach.

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Speaker 4: I mean you see that throw him through during KEMP,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he emphasizes the same things he was

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Speaker 4: emphasizing in.

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Speaker 2: The off season.

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Speaker 3: So you just get to see how he is an

523
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Speaker 3: off season and the season begins and he's the same guy.

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Speaker 3: And I love that. There's some interesting roommate combinations.

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Speaker 1: Did they happen to play you with your brother?

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Speaker 2: Imagine any of that.

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Speaker 3: It's actually me and my brother, Isaac Samlo and Broad Dray.

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Speaker 3: So it's a it's cool. I'm the only defensive guy.

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Speaker 3: There were three lineman, so this cool.

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Speaker 1: Does it bring you back to the old days. Did

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Speaker 1: you share a room growing up and everything?

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Speaker 3: Me and my brother, Yeah, we shared a room growing up.

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Speaker 3: We have dung deads.

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Speaker 1: Really who was top one? Me?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 1: I figured that how much? How much can you realistically

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Speaker 1: show as a pass rusher in situations when you don't

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Speaker 1: have and everything like that.

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Speaker 4: It's more so just technical stuff, you know, just your hands,

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Speaker 4: your footwork. You know, I'm bending the edge, but knowing

541
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Speaker 4: baths come on, it's I it's uh, it's different. You know,

542
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Speaker 4: they have more to grab. There's a bigger surface to hit.

543
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Speaker 4: You can bull rush and get us through different moves.

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Speaker 1: Oh, howse of transition? Watch fans from college to hear

545
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Speaker 1: now four.

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Speaker 3: Days it's been it's been small.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the vets, you know, they

548
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Speaker 4: really look out here at the Steelers. A lot of

549
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Speaker 4: guys you know, take me under their wings, showing me

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Speaker 4: the way, especially like TJ and.

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Speaker 3: Alex just in our room.

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Speaker 4: Man, they uh, they're really helpful and they they've helped

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Speaker 4: me in every every single way and every question I

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Speaker 4: asked that.

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Speaker 3: They're always there for me.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a teacher was just talking about like you can

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Speaker 1: look it out and then they are you think to

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Speaker 1: use those kind of signs and takings and what to

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Speaker 1: do and how to get acclimated to this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not not so much in nonsense, but

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Speaker 4: it's more so just like teaching me the fundamentals of

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Speaker 4: everything and how the league works and how practice goes,

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Speaker 4: and what I need to be prepared for, what I

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Speaker 4: can look for, just little things and then eventually I'll be.

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Speaker 1: On that level. When you got drafted, coach Tom was

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Speaker 1: saying the evaluation was easier because your the scheme is

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to what the Steelers do. Are you

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Speaker 1: finding as you're working you way into the NFL that

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Speaker 1: it's easier and you and you know, are there similarities

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Speaker 1: to what you did in Wisconsin and making.

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Speaker 3: This the process? There's definitely a lot of similarities.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I came from a great coaching staff,

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Speaker 4: you know, Coach Leonard and coach April and coach Chris,

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Speaker 4: they really instilled a lot of those NFL like likenessing

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Speaker 4: me and and the way we ran our defense was

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Speaker 4: kind of NFL style.

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Speaker 3: So I mean know, they prepared me really well for

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Speaker 3: this turn.

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Speaker 1: Has that taking on installs and stuff that they've done

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Speaker 1: so far, learning those a lot a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. You know we I feel like

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Speaker 4: the same way we put in plays and insult you know,

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Speaker 4: it was the same way we did it in college.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like Wisconsin really got me ready for that.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw a little buckgun ger from me

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Speaker 1: yesterday on the edge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah said something you've always done?

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Speaker 3: Or is that did you learnt?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I learned that from TJ. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you're watching that move a lot a lot, I work

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Speaker 4: on it with him a lot. So yeah, I've been

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Speaker 4: I've been trying to work that is it?

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Speaker 2: So is it what reciplication?

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Speaker 1: Staying that picked down?

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Speaker 3: Hosh?

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Speaker 2: Rushing is is your strength and.

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Speaker 3: Be visual to make sure you stay at this level.

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Speaker 1: Maig up a struggle with you gonna recoverage or run

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Speaker 1: with some defense next time.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm just trying to get better, man. I'm just

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Speaker 3: out here to get better bott on my teammates. So

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Speaker 3: make sure the sis make back.

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Speaker 1: To the super Bowl this year. When the teacher show

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Speaker 1: you that.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I actually saw him doing it like on a film,

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Speaker 3: and I watched front of him and then I'll ask

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Speaker 3: him about it. So yeah, I know you can, but

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Speaker 3: admiring he did for a long time because I'm like

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Speaker 3: watching m d pay the day office half experience out

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Speaker 3: he Now you really get you really get to see

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Speaker 3: what it's like when the light's on, you know, cause everybody,

613
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Speaker 3: everybody just sees him the light so on on some day.

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Speaker 4: Uh what what he does is a heck of a player,

615
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Speaker 4: But you don't really get to see what goes on

616
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Speaker 4: behind the scenes and all the work he foots.

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Speaker 1: In and the daily routine and.

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Speaker 3: Schedule he's all. It's it's really a second to nothing.

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Speaker 3: H I got a line a lot about why be

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Speaker 3: a way? I guess out here crape on Sundays right

621
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Speaker 3: up here you go wrecking wrecking drills when he reps

622
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Speaker 3: out here to he's he's one of them.

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Speaker 4: Bas do you have to tip down your motor at

624
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Speaker 4: all in these settings where you know it's not full

625
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Speaker 4: go yet?

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Speaker 3: Like Tomas said that, you guys have govern her on

627
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Speaker 3: and you're kind of limiting what you can do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's definitely certain situations, but I really

629
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Speaker 4: just haven't.

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Speaker 1: Once being.

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Speaker 3: The offensive linean getting mad at you at all about that, especially.

632
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Speaker 4: The one you're with, not not really, I mean, because

633
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we're all just trying

634
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Speaker 4: to get each other better, you know, an iron stock

635
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Speaker 4: was iron and so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was actually Nick Herbig, not our apologies, but

637
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Speaker 1: good by Wallace. So we'll get to Levi Wallace again

638
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Speaker 1: here at some point. But that was an interview actually

639
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Speaker 1: several of us in there on on Herbig and a

640
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Speaker 1: lot of buzzer on him. You heard me ask him

641
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Speaker 1: about that little duck under move that he pulled the

642
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Speaker 1: other day when we were talking. We were on the air,

643
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Speaker 1: and we was like, what it looked like TJ Watt?

644
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Speaker 1: So I asked him, you know that a TJ.

645
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Speaker 2: Watt movie?

646
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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I kind of saw it on film,

647
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Speaker 1: and you know, so I started working on it and

648
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Speaker 1: then I asked him how how he does it? It

649
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Speaker 1: looked like TJ Watt.

650
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good guy to, you know, ask about it,

651
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I would bet there's a bunch

652
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Speaker 2: of edge rushers around the league watching TJ. Watt film

653
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Speaker 2: and they don't have the the added bonus of Hey, TJ,

654
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Speaker 2: what'd you do on this? I'm not sure what you

655
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Speaker 2: do with your hands or how'd you keep your balance? Yeah, yeah,

656
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Speaker 2: that's exactly. That's a tough move to pull off. It is.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of a just duck under Olay

658
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Speaker 2: type of movie at full speed as you're rushing exactly

659
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Speaker 2: with a really good get off.

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Speaker 1: His I mentioned there's been a lot of buzz about him,

661
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people talking about boy.

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Speaker 2: He looks better than he than expected him. He's a

663
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: mid round pick, absolutely true. And you you said this

664
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: the other day. This environment without true banging helps his

665
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: cause a little bit more. But I don't have a

666
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of concerns that he's going to translate that to

667
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: the more physical version of foot. And his get off

668
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: is great. He has very good balance, he has good acceleration.

669
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I forget what he tested at the combine. I don't

670
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: remember it blowing our doors off. But I have no

671
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: problem with the way he runs. And his initial quickness

672
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: is great, which is better to me than a great

673
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: forty high for an edge guy.

674
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, his get off is super fast, and

675
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: of course the Steelers work on that every day.

676
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: I think their scouting staff is enamored with that. I've

677
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: never heard anyone say that, but high Smith and Watt

678
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: for the people to judge that with the Stopwatch. I

679
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: think that what they do is their first two steps.

680
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: A big thing with pass rushing is in your second

681
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: step in the ground, and they're always near the top

682
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: of the league. The Steelers always have guys that are

683
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: really exactly. I bet that they stress that in the

684
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: scouting room, in the draft room more than most teams.

685
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: Well, and you see, to start practice, one of the

686
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: first drills that they do is Mike Tomlan takes all

687
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: of his outside linebackers and defensive linemen and they get

688
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: the football and stick simulate the snap, and those guys

689
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: they he makes it a competition.

690
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, and.

691
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: It's it's a rush to five yards the first yeah exactly,

692
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: which is basically your second foot in the ground type

693
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: of thing and will help me, which is often where

694
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: first contact is on a pass rush from an edge.

695
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: And it's easy to say, you know what I just said,

696
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: or in the draft room, that's something they stress. Well,

697
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: then you've got to develop it still, you know, and

698
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: then it calls on the coaching staff. I mean, the

699
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: whole organization has to be on the same page with that.

700
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: So let's draft all.

701
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: These guys with great get off well, and then you

702
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: don't practice it ever and it starts to the wind. Well,

703
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: that's not how that's not how good organizations do it,

704
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: you know.

705
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Right right, Getting back to our initial conversation about Levi Wallace,

706
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, that whole room has changed.

707
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't thought about how dramatic that is. Not

708
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: just that room, the inside linebacker rooms unrecognizable, the safety room.

709
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, other than make the right question, guys,

710
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: are Kse's back, but he's a second year guy here.

711
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, they've really done a total home makeover on these.

712
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: I wonder if we pulled up last year's opening roster,

713
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: the one that they final cut down day, how many

714
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: different defensive players we expect to be there than that day.

715
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: I bet it's almost sixty percent. Yeah, I mean, if

716
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: you think about it, Cam Watt, Hei Smith, I mean,

717
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: like the obvious guys, but there's been a lot of

718
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: defensive turnover there really has just three m sixty five days.

719
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, and again I you know, some of u's

720
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: getting younger over there, some of us just adding veteran

721
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: guys different positions again, improving that depth, I think.

722
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like the warm leaves and a Lulu

723
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: louse are gone.

724
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: And you know, right, yeah, you know some of those

725
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: older guys and they were replaced by guys who are

726
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: not quite as old but still are veteran players.

727
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: And you know Peterson and Neil have been around in

728
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: those type of dudes from outside the organization. Right, they

729
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: drafted defense pretty heavy.

730
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: I think you know part of that was they saw

731
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: what it looked like last year without TJ. And so

732
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: you beef up the defensive line because you don't want

733
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: that to happen again with say Cam Hayward, right with

734
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Joby missing time or something like that. You

735
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: did it at outside linebacker because you don't want to

736
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: have to play games. You know, if it happens that

737
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: you have to play games without t J. Watt again,

738
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be a disaster.

739
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Right, And with all respect to Malik read, I mean

740
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't part of the original equation. They went out

741
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: and traded for him looking at a whole and it's

742
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: a lot better when you can prepare for that in

743
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, February March April than this time of year,

744
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, struggling to find those spots and.

745
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Even with like, you know, they when KZ went down

746
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: last year. I mean they had a plan for KZ.

747
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of three safety you know sets

748
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: out here even early in camp. Yeah, with Edmund that

749
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: you know.

750
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: They got hurt in preseason and that went out the window.

751
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: So you know, they you add some guys at that

752
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: position as well. So again, it's really just the depth

753
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: on this team to me is one of the biggest

754
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: stories of the offseason.

755
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it clearly has been stressed. I mean they have

756
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: three quarterbacks. I mean he pretty much are other teams

757
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: that right now don't have one. Yeah, you know, you

758
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: can mention a lot of positions. Where as you often

759
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: say they're gonna cut NFL players. Yeah, I mean that's

760
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: what's gonna come down.

761
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Where they're going to trade NFL players, Yeah, for picks

762
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: in the future.

763
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Unless they get really hit hard with injuries, which would

764
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: be terrible, but they could handle it now better than

765
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: they could have a year ago.

766
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent agree with that. And they'd

767
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: have some Nixon bump and things like that here, and

768
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, Mike to more to come. Some vets a

769
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: day off here. I saw Caz earlier today. He's in

770
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: a walking boot, and he said he's going to be

771
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he doesn't doesn't do anything next week.

772
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: We'll see. They're gonna be, you know, cautious with that

773
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: because they don't want to get into a situation like

774
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: they did last year with him.

775
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: By the sounds of it, he's pretty confident that he'll

776
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: be back at camp.

777
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: He said he would be practicing next week if it

778
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: were up to him, know, if.

779
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: You need to do that, but right, as long as

780
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: he's back by the end of camp.

781
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's a big part of what they're gonna do.

782
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: He's a starter. Yeah, he's I don't know if he'll

783
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: play the exact same role Edmonds did, but he's a

784
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: starting safety. I mean, he's won the top eleven.

785
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna be different this year. That's gonna be different. Yeah, yea,

786
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's a bad thing. I

787
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to. You're gonna be able to.

788
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to take make a Fitzpatrick because

789
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: KZ has free safety skills and move him around even

790
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: more this year.

791
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe they play more cover two, which the defense,

792
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: you know, which the league is really doing heavy they

793
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: don't have to, but they absolutely could, you know, and

794
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: because they're gonna they don't have to crowd the box.

795
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: Especially their D line is really good. Again, I think,

796
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Minca is great, great, great as a

797
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: deep middle guy. I mean, and boy is that a

798
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: nice like when.

799
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: You when you get the comparisons with him in Derwin James, Well,

800
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Derwin James is a much better blitzer than than make

801
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: of Fitzpatrick.

802
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: We don't know that the number of opportunities isn't even

803
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: close to one, right, right, right, And that was his

804
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: calling card. I mean, people don't study the draft or

805
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: didn't that you know, back then, the beauty of Minca

806
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: was this guy plays a slot. He'll play on the

807
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: second level. He's an outside corner.

808
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: The same reason we like Brian Branch coming out exactly exactly.

809
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: But he's more gifted than Branch.

810
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know Branch was was make a light.

811
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, And he was Saban's guy. He was, you know,

812
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the defense. And there's always a Bama

813
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: defensive back that's kind of the extension of Saban and

814
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: that was Branch and especially Menca.

815
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's going to be interesting. And again

816
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: when we see the pas comenca not here right now

817
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: as well. He's dealing with a personal issue. Hopefully everything

818
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: gets resolved with that and he is back out here soon.

819
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: But not concerned about him, No, not at the whole.

820
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I plus the work ethic with that, the

821
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: work that he does. Yeah, OTAs in mini camp he

822
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: was out there. He's probably catching balls or something right now.

823
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

824
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure, even while dealing with with whatever whatever is

825
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: going on, that's just who he is. I don't think

826
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: he turns it off.

827
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I hope everything's fine with his personal life,

828
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: the Fitzpatrick family as a whole and whatever. But as

829
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: a football player, I have no worries whatsoever.

830
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: None, none.

831
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Really, his role might expand we talked about it yesterday.

832
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: Again, you start checking off some of those other boxes

833
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: for him, you know already nineteen interceptions in his first

834
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: first four seasons.

835
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: We had that Hall of Fame conversation yesterday. Yeah, they

836
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: did that. Top ten safeties all time and his paces.

837
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: A couple more years and he's going to be uh

838
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: he'll pass Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean he's he's

839
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: the best free safety in his generation. Right now.

840
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean and.

841
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: Right now that this might be one of the heydays

842
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: of safeties in the league.

843
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: They're starting to get more asked of him, you know,

844
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: people like Kevin Byard or Simmons from the Broncos that

845
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: not everybody knows off the top of their head, but

846
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: they've had really, really good careers, you know, And and

847
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: he's better than all those guys.

848
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we're going to take another break. He is

849
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. We are live from

850
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here on the campus of Saint Vincent

851
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: College and beautiful Late Trope.

852
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, what a day is beautiful day this was.

853
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: This might have been the best day weather wise that

854
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: we've had out here. It wasn't too hot. It was

855
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: a Goldiehoks kind of day, wasn't too hot, wasn't too cold,

856
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: There was no rain for you.

857
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: And I was for coach Tomlin that eighty eight weltering

858
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: day was.

859
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Probably like that a lot better, but probably got a

860
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: little bit more work done today. And they got a

861
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 1: lot of looks at younger guys.

862
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good opportunity for those guys. Yeah,

863
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: so especially too, I mean without the pads on. You

864
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: need to know things now, you know, like all your

865
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: mental assignments need to be sharp because you're about to

866
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: get physically chat.

867
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: This was one last chance for them to get a

868
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: credit of course before they go into that.

869
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Cam knows that stuff, you know, I would hope so

870
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: at this point.

871
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna be take a break here, We'll

872
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: be right back with more after this.

873
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Let's go play some ball.

874
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: Always talking Black and Gold football on SNR.

875
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Speaker 1: Working for an exciting welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli. He

876
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: is Matt Williams, and we are alive from Steelers training

877
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: camp here at Saint Vincent College, the Steelers wrapping up

878
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: their final unpadded practice of training camp twenty twenty three,

879
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: just about a little under an hour ago. And I

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Speaker 1: thought we'd buzz around the league here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. I haven't heard news lately.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor has requested a trade after meeting with with

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Speaker 1: Ersay in the owner in Indianapolis, and well, Ersay said.

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Speaker 2: That's not happening. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I could.

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Speaker 2: I got the impression that they're not psyched to pay

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Speaker 2: a running back. I mean maybe after you drafting such

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Speaker 2: a good running quarterback that why invest heavily at the

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Speaker 2: running back position A year or two from now, when

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Speaker 2: Taylor's up and they had a pretty miserable year, I

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Speaker 2: could see why he had wanted to get out. And

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Speaker 2: he's one of the few out there that if I

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Speaker 2: were the chiefs, I might give you something substantial for

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Speaker 2: him at his stage of his career and with his talent.

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Speaker 2: But hey, if the owner isn't budget, the owner in budget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and right now he has the leverage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right?

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Speaker 1: You know Taylor has no cards in this one, really

899
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Speaker 1: really doesn't. Danielle Hunter got a new one year deal

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Speaker 1: with the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't hear that either. We just talked about

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Speaker 2: him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it doesn't look like he's going. It's a

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Speaker 1: one year deal worth up to twenty million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: that tells me that there's a lot of incentives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would guess which he easily could hit if

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Speaker 2: they're you know, some of them are playoffs centers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: in centives can be all sorts of things, right right,

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: really really good player. I thought there was as recently

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Speaker 2: as yesterday, I thought there was a decent chance he

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Speaker 2: could be on the move. You know, just the way

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Speaker 2: that they're structuring things, but they kind of need to

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Speaker 2: keep some things on that defense too.

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle has called it the career. After five years,

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Speaker 1: he has retired.

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Speaker 2: He came out of Georgia with some injury stuff. Yeah,

917
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: and had a rough go of it. But yeah, he

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Speaker 2: went to Super Bowl, which a pretty good career. It's

919
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Speaker 2: not bad.

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Speaker 1: Two super Bowls in five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, just looking here around the league a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Godwin Iguabique is signing with the Falcons running back. He said,

924
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Speaker 1: some moderate success here and there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here and there right right, That's it'll be a

926
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Speaker 2: tough room to crack.

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Speaker 1: Jamis and Williams back at practice today for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: But Seul is in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, soul is a great, great player. Yeah, do you

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Speaker 2: know the rules on this? I mean, Williams is suspended

931
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Speaker 2: to start the year.

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Speaker 1: He can go through training camp and then once the

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Speaker 1: season starts, because that's a suspension for off the field stuff,

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Speaker 1: he is not allowed at the facility, not at the

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Speaker 1: facility at all. He can play in the preseason, yes.

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Speaker 1: Could Watson last year? Yes, and he did, Okay, he

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Speaker 1: was at camp and played in the pre Yeah. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's that's why it was the line that they had

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Speaker 1: the walk getting ready ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now I remember absolutely.

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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans activated Sheldon Rankins from the pupp list

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Speaker 1: and that cornerback Kendall Sheffield.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Brankins is the guy they're counting on, you know.

944
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Speaker 2: They they want to build a Niners like D line there.

945
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Speaker 2: That's why they invested so much in Anderson. You know,

946
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Speaker 2: Rankins is sort of a bit of a placeholder until

947
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Speaker 2: that project totally takes form. But he's been around the

948
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Speaker 2: league for a while as good player, early pick, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I liked him coming out of school. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They also waived wide receiver Amari Rodgers, who of course

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Speaker 1: is the son of a former Steelers quarterback te Martin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Rogers had a tough time catching on. He

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Speaker 2: was a third round pick not that long ago. Hasn't

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Speaker 2: been able to do much.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of injuries here for the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire did not participate in Sunday's practice because

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Speaker 1: of an illness. Kadarius Tony still nursing that knee issue.

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Speaker 2: That one is is not a throwaway injury. No, the

959
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Speaker 2: Tony one.

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Speaker 1: Tight end Jody Fortson did with a right shoulder to

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Speaker 1: not practice defensive end Mike Dan and these guys are

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Speaker 1: just down the roster guys. Isaiah Moore he will have

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Speaker 1: surgery and has been placed on injury reserve. He's a

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Speaker 1: linebacker and cornerback. Nazi Johnson towards ACL Saturday and has

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Speaker 1: been placed on injured reserve. So the injuries are piling

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Speaker 1: up there for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of big names, but I mean

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Speaker 2: it's still is Ward still on the list? I might

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Speaker 2: have missed that because yesterday shur Davis Ward was I

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Speaker 2: think he came off. That's good news because he's the

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Speaker 2: most important one that's been on the list the last

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Speaker 2: two days. But still, you don't see lists of six

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Speaker 2: seven people this time of year very often.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not too often. Royce Freeman, the running back signed

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Speaker 1: with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of those type of backs out

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Speaker 2: there that have had a little success, you know, came

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Speaker 2: in the league with a little bit of fanfare or

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Speaker 2: you know, somewhat of a well known name. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see if you can catch on.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins activated offensive tackle Isaiah Win off the reserve

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Speaker 1: physically unable to perform lists, so he is back practicing again.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I heard some stuff that they might play

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Speaker 2: him at guard next to Armstead.

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Speaker 1: Probably a better fit for probably six.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of an enigma. Yeah, he plays like a tackle,

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Speaker 2: but he's only six three and seven eighths or something

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Speaker 2: like that and it's slightly under sixth sure. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: so maybe need all the help they can get on

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Speaker 2: that line. Though.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have activated off the puppulist Sterling Shepherd and

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Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two slots to go along with Wandell Robinson, So

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Speaker 2: you want to see those guys at work. Shepherd stays

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Speaker 2: healthy for one.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson with the Jets is dealing with a low

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Speaker 1: ankle sprain and well he'll be sitting out a Corey

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Speaker 1: Davis dealing with an illness for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: So two of their Yeah it's I guess that's their

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Speaker 2: starting receivers Blizzard, yes, in the mix. I mean Wilson

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Speaker 2: definitely is. I don't know what they think of Davis.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was going to get released three months ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, with a groin injury, is going to do

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Speaker 1: some He did some individual work today, but he is

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Speaker 1: not practicing right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure they won't rush him back.

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Speaker 1: No Titan Noah Fan passed his physical on Sunday, clearing

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Speaker 1: the way for him to come off the pup list

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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. And then finally the big news out

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Speaker 1: of Tampa Bay, Elijah Cansey, who was their first round

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Speaker 1: draft pick, had a pit left Sunday's practice with a

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Speaker 1: calf strain and they set to receive an MRI on that.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that is nothing too serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially, I mean he's built on explosion. That is

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Speaker 2: his game entirely so, and you just hate to see

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Speaker 2: your first round pick deal with anything. They have a

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Speaker 2: hard enough time as it is. You're counting on them.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, for sure. We'll be back with more. Our

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Speaker 1: final hour here from Steelers training camp at Saint Vincent

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Speaker 1: College is coming up here on ESPN nine seventy and

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lelly. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back in just a moment.