1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: He's a world class athlete. There is a high bar 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: that he has set for himself. I'd love to talk 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: about Mookie Bets and tell you you should panic. I'm 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: not going to say that. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Dodgers' Territory. Alongside my host 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Clint Piscius, I'm also your host Alana Rizzo. Thanks for 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: being here. It's always so much more fun when we 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: have our audience, whether it be on YouTube or anywhere 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: that you get your podcasts, when you guys participate. So 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: why don't you go and like us, subscribe us, give 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: us a greatest five stars or whatever the heck. It 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: is Dodgers' Territory podcast on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get them, 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: and of course we are on YouTube. Big show today, Clint, 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: we got the Bulldog number fifty five, Oral Herscheizer joining 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: the show momentarily coming up to talk about, obviously the 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: comparisons of Gavin Stone to the Bulldog, his relationship with 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Tony Gwyn and just kind of this little slump that 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are in right now. So let's get our 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: questions in for Oral in the chat. 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, tube in subscribe while you're here. And what 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: do you want us to ask oral let us know 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: in the comments. 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: By the way, Clinton and I did our first ever 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: Dodgers post game Dodgers Territory podcast last night. We could 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: do that because of course they're on the East Coast 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: finishing up a series with the Pirates before taking on 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: the big bad Yankees. I was yelling and screaming like 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: a banshee about the fact that, you know, the Dodgers, 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: the heads are falling off because they didn't they didn't 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: do well. They lost to the lowly Pirates. 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: If you will, yeah, I mean you're going to lose 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: to good teams. You're going to lose to bad teams. 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: I think losing two in a row to the Pirates 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: against the pair of rookies, we don't know a whole 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: lot about them, and we know right now the Dodgers 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: aren't They're going through it. They're not having a good time, 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: straight up not having a good time. And I think 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: a lot of Dodger fans will say that. But we'll 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: talk more about that right now. Let's get into the 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: big ticket, guys. 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: I want to welcome baseballism to Dodgers Territory. They're a 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: new partner of ours on foul Territory. Of course. Baseballism 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: is a brand that I've absolutely loved for years. It's 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: the official lifestyle brand of baseball. And actually this shirt 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: that I'm wearing right now is a baseballism't shirt. And 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: yet you see the flagman on Clint's head on his hat. 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: They have done a bow wow line to sponsor Gidriy's 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: Guardian Foundation, my foundation. But they also just came out 50 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: with this unbelievable Tony gwyin line, and there's so much 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: that you can buy. It's available now at baseballism dot com. Obviously, Tonygwyn, 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: there you go. You see the hat there, that's pretty sweet. 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Tony Gwyn obviously a Hall of Famer, one of the 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: most amazing players to ever play this great game, but 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: equally as good of a person as well. 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I mean Tony Gwynn Clint was damn near perfect. 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: He was a special character to watch. 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: You know, we've heard a little bit about the comparisons 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: these days with a new padre Luisa Rise, but there 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: will never be somebody quite like Tony gwyn It was 67 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: a damn professional hitter in every stretch of the imagination. 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, to imagine, this is a guy who, 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: over the entirety of his career, struck out as many 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: times as some people are striking out in a month 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: these days. But we got somebody who got to face 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: him a whole lot in his career. We got the 73 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: bulldog here, locked and loaded. Alana, why don't you tell 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: people who this guy is? 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't think he's a man that 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: needs an introduction. He's a very good friend of mine, 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: somebody that I respect in a door immensely, A former 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: colleague of mine. Oral Herscheizer joining Dodgers territory right now, 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: live from Pittsburgh, of course, the Dodgers finishing up a 80 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: series with the Buckoes before heading to New York to 81 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: face the Yankees. Oral, thank you. I know you're busy, 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: but I really appreciate you being here on Dodgers territory. 83 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: What are your memories of facing Tony gwyn when you 84 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to face your contemporary. 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, I went to Baseball Reference before this, had to 86 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: do a little research. That's not my mo at all, 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: but I think he had like seventy five at bats 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: off me, only struck out twice, So that's pretty much 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: a given with him. He's going to put the ball 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: in play. No home runs, no triples, but some doubles 91 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: and some singles. He hit three twenty one off me. 92 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: He had almost a four hundred on base percentage. He 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: is a guy that had a steering wheel on the bat. 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: It felt like when he hit the ball he could 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: find a hole. And I got to the point in 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: my career where it was just change speeds down the middle. 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Let him figure out where he wants to hit it. 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: When you pitch him away, you know the ball is 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: going to go to left. He's going to look at 100 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: for the six hole or a line drive to left 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: or left center, like a Freddie Freeman. If you pitched 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: him in, you know he's going to figure out that 103 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing to him. He's going to turn 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: on it you're going to risk more doubles down the 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: right field line, You're going to risk more to the gap. 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: I really never thought about worrying about him for power, 107 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: but I always took a look at the lineup of 108 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: when he could possibly come up, and you did not 109 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: want to face him with a man on third and 110 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: less than two outs, because you knew you couldn't strike 111 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: him out, and very hard to get him to pop out. 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you bring the infield in, maybe you get him 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: to hit a ground ball at somebody, but not very often. 114 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: This guy was the most professional hitter that you're going 115 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: to see. He actually invented, I think, some of the 116 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: video study. So in our day, it was on a 117 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: VHS and you had trouble like stopping the frame exactly 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: where you wanted. It would rattle sometimes. I don't know 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: if the audience is of the right age to understand 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: what that means. But he would start to watch film, 121 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: look at the counter on the VHS and he'd say 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: stuff like, if my hands or my feet start moving 123 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: before this counter hit six from when I started, I'm 124 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: starting too early. And he would start to break down 125 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: video at a very early time when video was just 126 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: coming out. 127 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: So you are one of a few who faced him 128 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: just about more than anybody in baseball. You got mad 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Dog Maddicks, you got Tom Clavin, a couple Hall of 130 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: famers there, Mike Scott, Tom Browning, Terry mulholland another former 131 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: Dodger there. How do you game plan for somebody in 132 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: an era like that? And how would you game plan 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: for somebody like that now? But how do you game 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: plan against Tony Gwinn who has every club in his 135 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: bad Yeah? 136 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Sandy Kofax used to say, to me, get 137 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the people out that you're supposed to get out because 138 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the guys that are great hitters are going to get 139 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: their hits. So it's situational with Tony, and he usually 140 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: batted second or third, and so the whole key was 141 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: to get the guy out in front of him and 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: get the guy out behind him, because you knew you 143 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: probably weren't going to get him out or he's gonna 144 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: put in play. So game planning was usually situational. What 145 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: side of the field can I overload a few fielders? 146 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: We didn't really shift on him. What side of the 147 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: field do I want the out to go to? Because 148 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: I know he's probably going to hit it, and if 149 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't make an out, I at least had an 150 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: attack to get it to the correct side of the field. 151 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: So it was really about there's no perfect sequence to 152 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: get him, there's no perfect way to pitch him, and 153 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: there were no holes. It was just hoping that you 154 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: could read the situation, read what he was trying to 155 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: do to you, read the foul balls of his timing 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: on you, and then adjust from there. 157 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Or oll you mentioned that you try to load up 158 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: defenders on a certain side. You didn't really shift on him. 159 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: But what do you do when there's a guy that 160 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: hits to all fields? I mean, you can't bring in 161 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven outfielders. I mean are you just hoping that 162 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: he guesses wrong and you guess correctly. 163 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Well, in our day, loading up would be maybe me 164 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: moving Alfredo Griffin or Dave Anderson our shortstop into the 165 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: sixth hole and throwing him fastballs away consistently knowing that 166 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: he with a fastball away is not going to try 167 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: and roll over and pull it or hit a line 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: drive or try and hit a home run. He's not 169 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: going to crowd the plate. He's going to hit the 170 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: ball to left field. So at least cover a certain 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: portion if he doesn't hit it like a bullet, cover 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: a certain portion of the field that is there. If 173 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I threw something off speed or inside during that at bat, 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: when I've moved my shortstop over, then it's my fault. 175 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: And I tell them that before the game, before the inning, 176 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: in between innings, if I move you, it's my fault 177 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: if you get beat. So that's pretty much the way 178 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I did it in the day. If it was within 179 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: and at bat and I was going to change course, 180 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: I would move them with my body language or my 181 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: eyes and just have them get in that new position 182 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: before the pitch was called, because you definitely didn't want 183 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: to do anything where the catcher was moving where the 184 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: third base coach. Because Tony was a left handed hitter, 185 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: the third base coach was changing posture to let Tony 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: know where the catcher was setting up. And this all 187 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: just gamesmanship back in the day. 188 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: So we got a question here, a good question I think, 189 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: Alana and I want to hear a little bit about 190 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: because we talked to you about game planning against Tony Gwinn. 191 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: Let's spin forward. 192 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: Let's look a little bit of modern right now, Let's 193 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: imagine Bulldog still has all that eighty eight magic in 194 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: it shoulder. He can go out and face the top three, 195 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: top four in this Dodgers lineup today. How do you 196 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: kind of game plan against another run of Hall of Famers. 197 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to tell you how I would 198 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: do that. 199 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna say that. 200 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: I knew it someone who's collecting a paycheck from American 201 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Media Corporation, which is owned by the Dodgers, so the 202 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers are owned by them. I'm really not going to 203 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: tell you what I think on how to get Mookie 204 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Betts out right now, or how to get Freddy Freeman 205 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: out right now, or how to even face Otani. And then, 206 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: you know what, it's not just the top three. Will 207 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Smith is unbelievable. Taoscar Hernandez I think is hitting fourth tonight, 208 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: and I think Austin Barnes is in the nine hole 209 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: so they don't have to face Will Smith. But they're 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: doing something to kind of shake that up. But you 211 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: know what, I threw a lot of sinking fastballs away 212 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: to lefties and away to rightyes, And my strategy was 213 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: until you forced me to pitch and show me that 214 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: you can hit that pitch or put me in a jam. 215 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't need to throw other pitches. So so it'd 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: be very interesting in today's game to watch the data 217 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: come back on my pitch selection and then watch the 218 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: approach of the hitters and see how much quicker I 219 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: would have to adjust, Because in our day, if you 220 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: were a first pitch fastball hitter, or you took first 221 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: pitch fastballs air, you got aired out when you got 222 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: back to the bench. I mean, we're not sitting around 223 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: building counts where the games were sometimes, you know, two 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: hours and twenty minutes, because you're supposed to hit the 225 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: first fastball you see. And I kind of played into 226 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: that strategy of I can make the ball move, I 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: can make it look like a fastball and it is, 228 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: and I'll go for week contact. Early I knew you were. 229 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: Going to say that. I said, there's no way he's 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: going to give away those secrets. He's no dummy, or 231 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: Al Hersheiser, no dummy. Let me ask you this. When 232 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: Walker Buller first came up Bulldog, there were a lot 233 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: of comparisons about Walker to you, and now we're starting 234 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: to hear some comparisons about Gavin Stone. I mean, tell 235 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: me a bit about the development that you've seen with 236 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: Stony and how much you've improved in back. Jack Harris 237 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: had a tweet that said Dave Roberts compared Gavin Stone 238 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: to Oral Herschez, where recently he's sort of like a 239 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: mini bulldog out there. I mean, that's a high compliment 240 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: for Gavin Stone. Anyone compared to you, I would think 241 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: would enjoy that well. 242 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: I think the original comparison with Walker Buehler was probably 243 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: because we both like to argue. We're both we're both 244 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: why kind of learners. So you tell me something and 245 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: I'll ask you why, so we keep pushing. With Gavin Stone, 246 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: I think it is that he's not hunting the strikeout 247 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: or an embarrassed the hitter. He's hunting weak contact. He 248 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: has a good, moving, sinking fastball. His best secondary pitch 249 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: is his change up. My best secondary pitch was my curveball. 250 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: He has now added the cutter and the slider and 251 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: the curveball, which has really made him way more successful 252 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: than when he first got called up last year. So 253 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: now the array of pitches is really complementary to each other. 254 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: I think he's throwing less changeups, but they've become more effective, 255 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and he's throwing more two steamers, so the fastball has 256 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: become more effective. And I think really the major comparison 257 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: is maybe the athleticism on the mound, the way the 258 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: legs and the body kind of move. He's very fluid 259 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: on the mound and very athletic, and I think the 260 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: movement of the fastball and the fact that he is 261 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: hunting weak contact. 262 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: So we saw a different pitcher, new pitcher, rookie pitcher 263 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: the Dodgers faced yesterday. Unfortunately couldn't quite get all the 264 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: way to him because the Pirates decided to get to 265 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: James Paxton first. But what are your initial impressions of 266 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: Paul Skins? And you know, they got some new terminology 267 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: on these pitches. I do appreciate you giving a little 268 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: crap to these kids coming up with names for it's 269 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: a split finger fastball, sticking with that, But give us 270 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: your first impressions of Paul Skins in the flesh. 271 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh amazing? And jones the day before, Holy smokes, these 272 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: guys have got electric arms. I think Jonesy has a 273 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: little bit more movement schemes. For me, is just going 274 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: to overpower people because he can maintain one on one 275 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: if he needs to. The breaking ball for me is 276 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: still in development. It's very slurvy like and it breaks 277 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: a little early. He should get a lot of swings 278 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and misses on it, but at times it's going to 279 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: hang a little bit and end up being like a 280 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: cement mixer. I'd love to see a little bit more 281 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: depth to it. Not against the Dodgers his splinker. I 282 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: don't like the term. I understand that he stumbled upon 283 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: this grip trying to make the ball go a little 284 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: bit more left to right than straight or with a 285 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: little cut, and he ended up spreading his fingers a 286 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: little bit, so there's some split to it, and it 287 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: acts like a sinker well so to split finger fastballs. 288 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: But I think they're changing it because the terminology because 289 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: a splitter has a little less rotation, so more cowhide, 290 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: more deflection. And this splinker I hate saying it, I 291 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: hate using it. I think it comes out of the 292 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: hand with split finger grip, but it spins like a sinker. 293 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: So I think that's what they're trying to do to 294 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: really increase and go into arbitration because they're middle management 295 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: and they're looking for a way to cause a stir 296 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: and get in the headlines. 297 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: Sweeper splinker, What the heck are we talking about here? 298 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: Cats and dogs living together? Oral? Mookie Bets is a 299 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: future Hall of Famer. I know that he is. But 300 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: he's one for June. Why should we not panic? 301 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: He's a world class athlete. There's a high bar that 302 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: he has set for himself. And there's panic because when somebody, 303 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden gets one hit over 304 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: of course of time that a normal person, that would 305 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: be normal for Mookie Bets, it's not normal for Freddie Freeman. 306 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: It's not normal for Otani, it's not normal for Will Smith. 307 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Now it's not normal. I'd love to talk about Mookie 308 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Bets and tell you you should panic. I'm not going 309 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: to say that. The one thing I did think in 310 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: coming into this segment with you guys, I think I 311 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: thought about Mookie Betts, and I thought about Freddy Freeman, 312 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and I thought about Otani, and I thought about Tony Gwinn, 313 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: who we started with. These are guys that are great 314 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: without being burly, without playing angry, without overpowering the game. 315 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: They're gentlemen and they're kind, and that's what I think 316 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: most about Tony Gwinn. And that's what I think about 317 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: those three, even Will Smith. These guys are such gentlemen. 318 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: They're not the burly, grubby, grinding out athlete. They play 319 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: baseball in a way that they let their skills and 320 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: their manners speak from themselves. And if you had a 321 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: son or a daughter, or you wanted to follow somebody 322 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: or be mentored or a role model, go back to 323 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn, or go to those three or four guys. 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: So we have a comment actually about to pop up 325 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: on the screen here. I want to talk some more pitching, 326 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: Dodgers having a little bit of trouble hitting some high velocity, 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: and wait for the comments so I can make sure I'm. 328 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: Saying the right part. 329 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: Oh well, let's say we're just talking about bulldog in there, 330 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: you know, instead of the whole idea of the fastball 331 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: and the Dodger struggle with the velocity. 332 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: I want to spin positive. I know. 333 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: And last night's broadcast, you gave some love to this 334 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: Dodgers bullpen, something I. 335 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: Did last week as well, because this Dodgers bullpen has 336 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: been very, very good. 337 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: What's made this bullpen different in your eyes this year 338 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: versus some of the depends. We've seen in recent tears 339 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: that have been good but maybe just missing a piece 340 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: or two. 341 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: They've been very consistent. They got off to not a 342 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: rocky start, but not a startup to what people see 343 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: as their potential. Now they've dealt with a lot of 344 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: injuries with Tryinging and Graderol and Phillips and really haven't 345 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: just got trying in back. Gradool hadn't been out there 346 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: at all, So you know, Brazier, this is a group 347 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: that has stepped up when their roles have changed. This 348 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: is a group that when the rotation started to go 349 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: six innings and take that extra inning away from them, 350 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: they really started to hit their stride because the matchups 351 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: got better. They were all doing their job, so they 352 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: were handing it off to the right guy with the 353 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: right scoreboard and they weren't having to come in and 354 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: take down inherited runners. We saw Alex Vesio really step up. 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: This is a guy who struggled when the pitch clock 356 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: last year came into vogue and all of a sudden 357 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: he had to go down to the miners and start 358 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: learning a new way to go about his business, finding 359 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: a way to get himself pumped up for every pitch. 360 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: He's hitting the spots, he's added the slider. He throws 361 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: a few change ups now and then. It's really a 362 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: group that has just found their stride. You can't say 363 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: you would have predicted this from this roster, but all 364 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: of them are at their potential or above their potential, 365 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: and we've still got other arms coming. 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good to see. They're so crucial. Of course, 367 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: that's the Bullpen's what keeps, you know, Andrew Friedman and 368 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: President of Baseball up at night. They're doing a good job. 369 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: We have a question for you oral on the chat 370 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: here as do you join the conversation our viewers do, Hey, Earl, 371 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: what's your opinion of Max's effort on every pitch nowadays 372 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: as compared to when you played. I think the question 373 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: from Jay is coming from the fact of all of 374 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: these exploding elbows. You see a lot of superstars, you know, 375 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: going out with Tommy John. 376 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've maybe reached a tipping point. It'll 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch. I know there's a lot of 378 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: controversy out there about what's happening to pitchers and the injuries. 379 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: I think you have a multiple things that are happening 380 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: you've got the pitch clock, you've got the fact that 381 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: their starters are only maybe required to go five, possibly 382 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: six innings, and that counts as a good start. So 383 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: within those ninety pitches, let's say each one becomes a 384 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: little bit more effort and almost max effort. And I 385 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of times they're chasing spin rate, they're 386 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: chasing velocity, they're chasing the most exceptional pitch that times 387 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: up and comes out of their body and a side work, 388 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden that becomes the standard 389 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: that they're shooting for. That's hard to do, and it's 390 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: hard to do healthy. There are tweaks in a game. 391 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: There are moments when you throw a ball and your 392 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: mechanics weren't just that great, and all of a sudden 393 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: you get a little shooting pain or nerve pain, or 394 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: you get a little tight hamstring, or you get a 395 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: little tight shoulder and you want to but you're on 396 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: the clock. Now before you could walk around the mountain, 397 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: rub the ball up, call one of your fielders in 398 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: and get a little time. Even when you cover first 399 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: base or anytime you back up a base, there's just 400 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: things that have been left out or taken out that 401 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, relate to recovery and relate to 402 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: quantity and quality of the pitch. That are really getting 403 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: to a point where guys are if they're slightly nagging 404 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: but still have to pitch, and they're pitch on the clock, 405 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: and they want to keep their job or get the job, 406 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: or just be the guy that's on the team that's 407 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: already being paid, and that's what I'm supposed to do. 408 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: Then we're putting a higher percentage of people out there 409 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: that will throw a pitch and it'll be a riskier 410 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: pitch than it was before. 411 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: Memnous amount of pressure. Oral Hirshcheizer, you will forget more 412 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: about baseball than I will ever know. I could listen 413 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: to you talk about this great sport for hours. You 414 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: should probably do this for a living. I don't know 415 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: what you're doing right now, but perhaps broadcasting is in 416 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: your future. Before we let you go, Bulldog, I do 417 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: want to talk to you about Legends Addict. I know 418 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a new adventure that you're in. Tell us more 419 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: about what you're doing with that. 420 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm a serial entrepreneur. It's like my seventh business that 421 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I'll be part owner of. We got a couple of 422 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: car dealerships, a pet food company Lucy Pett as you 423 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: know about Alana, And so we've got some things. And 424 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: so the Dodgers honored me as a legend of Dodger 425 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Baseball last year. And my partner said, you know, what 426 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: are you going to do with all that memorabilia once 427 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: it comes out of the display at Dodger Stadium? And 428 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: I know your garage is full and your attic is full. 429 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: And I said, whatever you guys want to do. And 430 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I say, not that many people see it anymore. They said, well, 431 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: I've got memorabilia. You've got memorabilia. We can go get 432 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: some we can get the autograph balls, we can draw 433 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: people into the store. Let's open up a store. And 434 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 1: so the store is not only a store for baseball 435 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: cards and balls and game war and equipment. It's an 436 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: art gallery. It's a museum of some of my things 437 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: and other people's stuff. We got twenty five hundred square 438 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: feet in about six rooms. There's some rooms that actually 439 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: have names, like a Dodger Room and a Laker room. 440 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: And so it's it's a fun place to come. It's 441 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: all about the customer. It's about the experience of coming 442 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: in and if you buy something or not, you're just 443 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: going to be glad that you were there because there's 444 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff to see. We got pinball machines, 445 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: we got video games, we got it's it's it's an experience. 446 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the first person that's going to 447 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: be there when we get off this call is Clint 448 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: Pasius because if you can just sell the way all 449 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: the stuff behind him, Bulldog, I love you, Thank you, 450 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: best of luck and the rest of the series against 451 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: the Pirates, and you know, go ahead and take care 452 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: of those Yankees for us, would you. 453 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Thanks for letting me take the 454 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: late bus here. Welcome. 455 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Why you even said that earlier? Rest of the Orl's 456 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: on the late bus because he's on our show. Oral 457 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: hersh you're the best. Talk to you soon. Nineteen eighty 458 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 2: eight SIM Award winner MVP of the World Series. I 459 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: swear to you when I worked with him for seven seasons, 460 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: just a palletha of information and he's so gracious to 461 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: give it to you. It's always an education when you 462 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: talk to Oral. 463 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, he's one of the best people I've ever 464 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: been around. 465 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: He might not remember me very much. 466 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: I've been around him enough times over the years covering 467 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: this team, and. 468 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: It's never old. It never gets old. 469 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 3: It's always fun, always exciting being around number fifty five. 470 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: The bulldog oral Herdscheiser should be a Hall of Famer. 471 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: I agree. 472 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: That's a whole other conversation, perhaps on our next Dodgers territory. 473 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: How about we get to last Lix Clint come in 474 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: all right, allow us to introduce you to Leonard. Leonard 475 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: is one of seven puppies that Boogie gave birth to. 476 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: We introduced you to Boogie a few weeks back. Leonard 477 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: is going to be available for option adoption rather the 478 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: middle of July. You're getting ready to get his first 479 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: set of puppy vaccines. He and his six siblings. They're 480 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: all named after the Big Bang Theory cast. So there's Leonard, Penny, me, Pria, Sheldon, 481 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: on and on and on. They are beautiful, beautiful pups 482 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: and ready for adoption. Just hit us up at Gidrisguardian 483 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: dot org or Alanaizzo and I can give you more information. 484 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: But wonderful pups and super super sweet. Please adopt and 485 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: don't shop. We appreciate that very much. We're gonna be 486 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: back Clinton just a second. 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But how much are you paying attention to 526 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: what happens this weekend in the Bronx? 527 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: I mean, as a fan and as somebody who covers 528 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: this team, I'm paying attention because it's what we gotta do. 529 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: But in terms of wins and losses, I said it 530 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: a little bit last night in our postgame show. I 531 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: don't need to see the Dodgers go in there, like 532 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: I don't need to see it for you know, the 533 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: good of my soul. To see them win two of 534 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: three or sweep the Yankees. Yeah, it would feel real good, 535 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: but it doesn't necessarily translate to anything when it comes 536 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: to what this team will do in the postseason. We 537 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: know postseason is the most important thing for this Dodgers team, 538 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: and all the money and all of the pomp and 539 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: circumstance surrounding this team. That said, you look at who 540 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: the Dodgers have lined up to go against the Yankees 541 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: in this series. It does mean something to them because 542 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: they do have Yoshi Nyobu Yamamoto, you have Mini Bulldog 543 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: Gavin's and pitching on Sunday as Tyler glasnow, so it 544 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: does mean something to this team. And whether you get 545 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: swept or whether you get you know, make out of 546 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: get out of Pittsburgh with one win, still, you've got 547 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: to feel good about yourself coming back home after a 548 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: shorty another East coast trip by at least splitting this 549 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: road trip. 550 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 4: But if you could sweep the Yankees, you'd feel real, 551 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: real good. 552 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be great. I disagree with you, though, 553 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: I do think I do need to see something. I 554 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: do need to see. I mean, we're talking two massive lineups, 555 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: obviously very easily five six Hall of Famers potentially when 556 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: you're talking about the two lineups involved, hopefully Walker Bueller 557 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: is a stopper tonight in Pittsburgh, and then I do 558 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: need to see what these dot now. It's they're going 559 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: in at a bad time. The bats are asleep right now, 560 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: so I mean, hopefully something in the Bronx wakes those 561 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: guys up. But I do I want to see how 562 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: you have to beat the best to be the best. 563 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: And I still think even though the Dodgers are an 564 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: unbelievably historic franchise and God only knows, but so is 565 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: New York. And I'm wanting to see what these two 566 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 2: juggernauts can do against one another. I'm very interested. I mean, 567 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: I think two out of three would be phenomenal. And 568 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: then to me, that would be a successful road trip. 569 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: And we saw a little sign of the bats waking 570 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: up a little bit. I feel last night they did 571 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: score six runs against the Pirates, so there's something there. 572 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: Maybe they're trending in the right direction. 573 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: But I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about 574 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: next Monday on Dodgers' Territory Live, so guys, make sure 575 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: you tube into that. I'll tell you all now. Also, 576 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: I'll be talking a whole lot more Dodgers tonight on 577 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: my All Dodgers show here on YouTube. 578 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: Join me for a Thursday Thursday as we were also. 579 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: Going to post game because we're going to see what 580 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: Walker Buehler does against these pirates and hopefully your boys 581 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 3: in Blue can sneak out of Pittsburgh with at least 582 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: one win under their belt. 583 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking of postgame, if you do want to 584 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: see what Clinton and I did last night for postgame, 585 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: just tune into our channel, Dodgers' Territory on the Foul 586 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: Territory family. 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