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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: He is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where

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Speaker 3: flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 3: Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Monday, you are looking live at a very gloomy kind

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Speaker 4: of fits the move today, doesn't it gloomy?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, soccer humid.

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Speaker 4: We have given up on fall here in Texas football soccer.

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Speaker 4: You're looking love. They toasted a wet, damp, muggy kind

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Speaker 4: of like the season outside toastedos Championship Plaza at the

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Speaker 4: Ford Center where at seventy eight degrees the highest eighty.

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Speaker 4: It's rainy, it's windy, there's tornado warnings. Disaster is looming

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Speaker 4: on more than one front. Below is sixty six.

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Speaker 5: That's doom and gloom. Shannon, that's ready to go. Nate,

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Speaker 5: it's my boy. Three pumps. Kurt Daniels in the back

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Speaker 5: keeping his Liva local Chris Beam, I am Salt and

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Speaker 5: Pepper Poppy. Together we make Hanging with the boys. The

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Speaker 5: sports talk equivalent of brew, people, feelers, feelings when we speak,

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Speaker 5: brought to you each and every day by Wingstop, where

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Speaker 5: Flavor gets its week. He had a crypti he had

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Speaker 5: a cryptid tweet this morning. You know, I think he's

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Speaker 5: about ready to go. Now who Brady Cooks?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it doesn't matter, you know.

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Speaker 6: He said, like go mold. It had the archer like

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Speaker 6: the bone arrow.

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Speaker 4: So normally you'd be excited for that. There's just so

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Speaker 4: many things here we are, fellas, here we are. It's

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Speaker 4: about all I can say. Break it, go ahead, break it,

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Speaker 4: just break it.

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Speaker 7: Break it.

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Speaker 6: You have it up, so you break it, breaking, Kurt,

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Speaker 6: break it off like you.

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Speaker 8: Ian Rappaport reported quarterback Dak Prescott's hamstring injury is worse

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Speaker 8: than initially feared. He's expected to miss multiple weeks. This

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Speaker 8: is not looking like a short term injury.

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Speaker 4: There it is on the NFL network, breaking news, breaking news. Man.

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Speaker 4: Well here we are. That's that's not good and we

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Speaker 4: can talk about like, hey, is it is it time

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Speaker 4: to think long term and next season and get picks

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Speaker 4: and because with Dack out, the next three weeks are

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Speaker 4: not looking good. And if you lose two of the

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Speaker 4: three games, you're basically out of it with the way

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Speaker 4: this team is. We'll get it up all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: But if you looked at the stat sheet and I

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Speaker 4: told you, Jesse, on Friday, b John Robinson would have

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Speaker 4: under one hundred yards rushing, Kyle Pitts would have one catch,

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Speaker 4: and Kirk Cousins would only throw for two hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty two yards, you would be like Cowboy WP, didn't happen,

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Speaker 4: did not happen. So before we get into it, thoughts

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Speaker 4: overall thoughts on the.

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Speaker 9: Game, Nate, We're not just we're not good enough, all right, Kurt, thoughts.

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Speaker 7: On the game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, then just air mistake, same old thing, over and

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Speaker 8: over again. This season is done.

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Speaker 4: Putting a fork in it is the match. You're throwing

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Speaker 4: the match on it, Kirk setting it on fire. Okay, Jesse.

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Speaker 5: My quote for this is built bat coach, bat plays bat.

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Speaker 6: This is bad from top to bottom. There you go,

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Speaker 6: it is. This is bad from top to bottom.

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Speaker 5: And what you see on Sunday or what you saw

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Speaker 5: on Sunday or what you have seen on Sunday, especially

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Speaker 5: in these last three losses happened Monday through Saturday. Like

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Speaker 5: they just revealed it to us on Sunday. They lost

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Speaker 5: these games throughout the week because we keep talking about

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Speaker 5: the same things over and over and over. Penalties, not

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Speaker 5: lining up right, twelve minute in the huddle, ten men

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Speaker 5: on the field, I mean, just the consistent circus of mistakes,

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Speaker 5: the lack of attention.

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Speaker 4: To details, seven pre snap piss seven pre.

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Speaker 5: Snap penalties, seven not blocking the right people, not running

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Speaker 5: in the right holes, just the the fake pass punt,

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Speaker 5: the fake punt pass. I mean, just a comedy of

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Speaker 5: erarors that we've talked about that they've got on the

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Speaker 5: podium every week and said, we need to correct, we

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Speaker 5: need to correct, we need to correct. There is no

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Speaker 5: more back there is I don't know. There's no more basics,

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Speaker 5: there's no more getting back to the basics. There's no

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Speaker 5: more fundamentals, there's no more any of that built bad

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Speaker 5: coach bad plays bad from top to bottom, and everybody

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Speaker 5: gets blamed for that. They got They caught Dak on

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Speaker 5: the sideline. They caught Dak on the sideline, mouth than

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Speaker 5: the words we FA sucks, suck. He's right, yes you do, yes,

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Speaker 5: you do as a whole everybody this thing has. This

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Speaker 5: thing is a complete dumpster fire. You can go from

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Speaker 5: the the thing that came out about zeke him not

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Speaker 5: while he wasn't playing. Ultimately kind of basically a quote

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Speaker 5: unquote one game type of suspension you can go and

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Speaker 5: the one thing that you never wants a head coach,

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Speaker 5: I never want the owner overly endorsing me.

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Speaker 7: I just don't.

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Speaker 5: I never want the owner overly endorsing me in tough times.

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Speaker 5: That is the that is that's a kiss of death.

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Speaker 9: It's a kiss of death, bro, when the.

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Speaker 5: Owner starts, when the things get bad, and the owner

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Speaker 5: is overly praising you and telling everybody that'll listen that

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Speaker 5: you good. You all right, brother, call your real estate agent,

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Speaker 5: start telling start telling baby mom at work, just start

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Speaker 5: just just start packing up these dishes.

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Speaker 8: Seeing seeing McCarthy's look on his face, throwing the thing down,

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Speaker 8: all that, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen, maybe ever, the frustration starting about three

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, from the top all the way to the

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Speaker 4: bot like players are frustrated, coaches are from frustrated. Ownership's frustrated,

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Speaker 4: fans have been frustrated. I mean every that, I've never

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Speaker 4: seen the level of frustration and just dysfunction. You know,

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Speaker 4: usually there's things here and there, it's every week. It's

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Speaker 4: three or four things throughout the week, and then multiple

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Speaker 4: things on game day, and then stuff during the game,

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Speaker 4: stuff after the game, and it just keeps going. And

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Speaker 4: I don't see there's no break. There's no there's no

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Speaker 4: break to tap like the breaks. The breaks are beat

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Speaker 4: off this thing. It's like you're Brandon, Like you said,

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Speaker 4: Brandon Cook's coming back. Any other week, you'd be like great.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like, so what who's gonna throw to him?

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Speaker 4: Cooper Rush, Trey Lance put him in there? I mean,

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Speaker 4: you can't trade him now, right, So even if you

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Speaker 4: put him in there to try to raise his value,

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Speaker 4: what's the point that experiment's over? So it's like what

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just feels like I should go to

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Speaker 4: Mexico next week. I don't want to wait till jan anywhere.

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Speaker 6: I want to go down. Get me out of here. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's bad. It's bad.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and it hasn't been bad here in a

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Speaker 4: long time. Like we we bitch and moan and complain

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Speaker 4: and there's always something wrong and it's just the way

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Speaker 8: I remember more because in twenty twenty there were six

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Speaker 6: It being it didn't get like we were in COVID.

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Speaker 5: We were dealing with some stuff, were like new coach life,

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Speaker 5: new coach. All wasn't life twenty Yeah, we weren't dealing

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Speaker 8: And you know fifteen, there were four and twelve, but

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Speaker 8: Roman was heard about. I mean I remember, but none

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Speaker 8: of it seemed nothing like this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is just a every week, every week is

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Speaker 5: something different. And now what you're starting quarterback and they're

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Speaker 5: still waiting on the MRI to come back from CD lamb. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's also another thing that's coming down the pike.

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Speaker 4: Was that smart of him to stay in the game? Yes,

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Speaker 4: contract year.

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Speaker 6: CD got his money, sorry money, No, But it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's a it's a.

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Speaker 5: It's something to show the other guys that I am

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Speaker 5: your best player, and even in a losing situation, in

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Speaker 5: a losing season, when it's all going bad, and to

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Speaker 5: show us as media, y'all talk about me and how

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Speaker 5: I throw these hissy fits and I'm a diva and

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Speaker 5: stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: But I'm out here, I'm out here trying to help.

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Speaker 5: I haven't I haven't quietly quit, I haven't openly quit.

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Speaker 5: I'm out here trying my very best, giving you all.

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Speaker 5: I got blood, sweat and tears to try to get

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Speaker 5: a victory. So I think that goes a long way

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Speaker 5: in CD's approach or the way that he looks towards

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Speaker 5: his teammates. So now when when you know, when I

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Speaker 5: and you got a little I'm not saying this because Dak,

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Speaker 5: but you let a little handy or you got a

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Speaker 5: little wrist, so your little back or whatever, we gotta go,

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Speaker 5: we gotta, we gotta go. We can try to go.

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Speaker 5: So I thought it was. I thought it was admirable

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Speaker 5: Whatever it was, he couldn't he I don't think he

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Speaker 5: could damage it. If it was a C, was a C,

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Speaker 5: if it was labor, room is labor, whatever it is,

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Speaker 5: he couldn't have damaged it more than what it was

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Speaker 6: So I thought it was. I thought it was an

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Speaker 2: And the thing that he told us, what about four

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, I apologized and you'll see a new new

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Speaker 2: CD if he just keep it up. Now, just you

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Speaker 2: you've set You've set the bar. Just stay at that

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Speaker 2: bar higher. Yeah, So I like, I like that, He

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Speaker 2: continued on. I was a little worried about it, you know,

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Speaker 4: That's what I was.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what in with my boy, Fergie. He is

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Speaker 9: the offense.

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Speaker 4: I mean you were still in the game, right hold on.

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Speaker 4: Theoretically theoretically you were in the game, but I mean

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Speaker 4: just watching the game, you were out. You had been

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Speaker 4: of like I admired that. I was like, get out

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Speaker 4: there and fight, but where you're at in the season,

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Speaker 4: you're starting quarterback, just went out of the game. I

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Speaker 4: was kind of like, you know what, when I'm said contract,

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Speaker 4: I mean you just got paid your highest paid player.

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Speaker 7: I didn't mean like he's up for.

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Speaker 4: A contract year. Maybe you out of you are the

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Speaker 4: offense now, especially with dak Out. I mean, we saw

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Speaker 4: that you've got a fourth and one and you give

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Speaker 4: it to the play only playmaker on the field. Even

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Speaker 4: though I want to know if that was the right call,

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Speaker 4: by the way, because no, it was not the right call,

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Speaker 4: Sure wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It's like get up under the get up under the

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Speaker 2: center and just run it, and just run it.

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Speaker 4: Your guy's getting six point seven yards on all twelve

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Speaker 4: of his carriers that you gave him.

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Speaker 7: Which we'll get back into that too.

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Speaker 6: What in the hell are they doing?

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Speaker 4: Like you finally found a guy that it looked like

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Speaker 4: you got a rhythm, You finally have a pecking order

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Speaker 4: where it's like, this is our running back. He is

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Speaker 4: going to run the ball today. He gets six point

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Speaker 4: seven of carry. He looks like he's doing pretty good.

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Speaker 4: They don't give it the damn ball, Like.

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Speaker 5: What is Mike is sabotaged itself, Like he's literally like

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Speaker 5: this thing is spiral so far out of control. I

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Speaker 5: don't think anybody really knows what they're doing, Like not

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Speaker 5: so they don't know, Like they don't know what to

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Speaker 4: You think they're just so desperate. They're just trying everything,

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Speaker 5: But even like but even on the fake punt, right,

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Speaker 4: If you get a certain look, you take that chance, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and most likely it's if he's off coverage, he.

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Speaker 5: So like even that wasn't even translated right from practice

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Speaker 7: You hit him.

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Speaker 5: But if he's impressed coverage or within that three yard

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Speaker 6: And you pumped the thing off.

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Speaker 8: Good One said it was like he knew it was coming.

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Speaker 9: The dudes told him.

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Speaker 2: After the game. He said, man, we felt somethe right.

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Speaker 4: They should have snapped hiy, just run the other direction, Jesse,

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Speaker 2: I've been on two or three teams. Wait, nothing worked.

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: And you practice it and and I promise you we

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Speaker 9: Ponnter.

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Speaker 7: If this guy's up close, don't do that. CJ.

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Speaker 2: You know, come on, now, you we thought you you

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Speaker 2: just seemed like ugly things happen. We have seen better

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's just it's just deteriorating somehow. We

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Speaker 4: It worked later, It worked later, and.

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Speaker 5: They had caught a time out before that, so you

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Speaker 6: Yes, sure, yes, sir, like you had time to go

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Speaker 7: Me one yard? Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Can you give me one yard? They ain't blitched, they

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Speaker 10: Sir?

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Speaker 6: Can you give me one Can you not hold sir?

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Speaker 4: Can you just push it?

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Speaker 2: And then later in the game you run a quarterback sneak.

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Speaker 2: Then later in the game you run I almost got

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Speaker 7: Almost?

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Speaker 9: This thing is falling apart.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's talk about that. Let's look at the next

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Speaker 8: He keeps going some more news ceedee Lamb is considered

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Speaker 8: better than next. He's week to week, so okay, alright,

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Speaker 8: So he won't play this week, probably not this week,

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to see Torbert in full force,

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we're gonna get to see this thing work now, turping, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Wild situation, wild situation. What if Cooper Rush runs off

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Speaker 8: He had some pretty nice passes.

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Speaker 4: What if he runs what if he runs off for

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Speaker 6: So you got home home, away home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then home again against Cincinnati December the ninth.

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Speaker 4: You could win thanks to seven to eleven, the ultimate

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Speaker 4: Realistically, that's what you're looking at, six and eleven, six

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Speaker 4: Do you start thinking at this point, Look, who's some

440
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Speaker 4: guys that aren't really working out, Like, let's just you

441
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Speaker 4: know what, let's just pull the cord right now. Let's

442
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Speaker 4: see what's out there. Let's see who's willing to deal.

443
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Speaker 4: Nobody's off fired, nobody's off fired. Won't let you go list,

444
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Speaker 4: Let's just see what's out there. Do you, as a

445
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Speaker 4: GM start doing that now?

446
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Speaker 5: Well, you only got twenty four hours, right, yeah? No,

447
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Speaker 5: trade deadline is on Tuesday.

448
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Speaker 4: I would have Kurt. I would have everybody on your floor, Kurt,

449
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: the social team, the digital team, the writers, picking the

450
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Speaker 4: phone up, calling the other teams. Just get them all

451
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Speaker 4: on the phone, start calling. Hey, what you got, Let's

452
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Speaker 4: work the phones.

453
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Speaker 8: Let's They should not make any moves that don't have

454
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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five in mind. They're not building towards twenty

455
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Speaker 8: twenty five, then they don't.

456
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Speaker 4: So are you listening? Is there anybody that's on your

457
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Speaker 4: do not do not touch list?

458
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Speaker 8: Maybe CD, but outside of that, if they want to,

459
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Speaker 8: you know, but anything else, whether it's a young player

460
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Speaker 8: who could be a stud for you down the road

461
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Speaker 8: or draft picks. I wouldn't make any move unless it's

462
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Speaker 8: for the.

463
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Speaker 4: Kind of that baseball mentality, Like I really like this

464
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Speaker 4: young guy. But I'm listening. Listen to what you got

465
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Speaker 4: out there.

466
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Speaker 8: But I mean everybody, I mean, we got a lot

467
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Speaker 8: of guys on one of your contracts. They might be

468
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Speaker 8: pretty inviting to other teams.

469
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Speaker 4: Somebody that's on the bubble right now.

470
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Speaker 8: Yeah, if you need, if you go to throw some

471
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Speaker 8: draft picks are away and I'm listening.

472
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Speaker 4: What are you doing, Nate?

473
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Speaker 9: Are you listening to all play this out?

474
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Speaker 2: Let this pass? Let the trade deadline pass. You wasn't

475
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Speaker 2: planning on doing anything anyway, Just let it pass. Let

476
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Speaker 2: this year play out?

477
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Speaker 4: Are you playing young guys to what?

478
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Speaker 2: After this second game, I'll stop playing the young guys.

479
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Speaker 2: Two more games, Yeah, two more guys, I stop playing,

480
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Speaker 2: just to make sure.

481
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Speaker 4: That there's not a chance.

482
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Speaker 7: And so that's what I would do.

483
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Speaker 8: Why shouldn't they do anything on the trade deadline? Like

484
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Speaker 8: I shouldn't be sellers sellers of what what?

485
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Speaker 6: And that's the thing, like who brings value?

486
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Speaker 5: Like the only you only have three players in my

487
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 5: opinion that actually bring maybe four that may actually bring

488
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Speaker 5: worthy value. Dak, CD, you're not traded because of the

489
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Speaker 5: contracts one Dak you can't trade that right right? CD

490
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 5: just got a new deal, so you're not trading him.

491
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Speaker 5: The only other two guys is Micah and to me Ferg.

492
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Speaker 6: I mean, and maybe Diggs.

493
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Speaker 8: What about Zach Martin is one year deal?

494
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Speaker 5: Somebody a veteran would it would have to be a

495
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Speaker 5: contending team.

496
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Speaker 6: Who are who is terrible at guard?

497
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Speaker 8: Eric Kendricks?

498
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Speaker 5: But even at that, what are you getting for a

499
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Speaker 5: guy who around the league we kind of already know

500
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Speaker 5: is looking to retire.

501
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's somebody, like you said, somebody who you know.

502
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Speaker 8: I don't want to see Zach leeve. He's a great player.

503
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Speaker 8: Somebody needs that guy that depth, that veteran to help him.

504
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm not giving you a third or fourth

505
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Speaker 6: or fifth. You might I might give you. I might

506
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Speaker 6: throw you at six or seven for them.

507
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: I almost can't look at you sitting down in that

508
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: chair like that.

509
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 8: But if you're building for next year?

510
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Speaker 7: Is that building? What?

511
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Speaker 11: No?

512
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Speaker 9: For Zach?

513
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Speaker 8: For the for the future. Is that going to be

514
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Speaker 8: here next year?

515
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Speaker 6: No, he's going home. He's going Why that's right?

516
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Speaker 8: If your season is done, now, why aren't you building

517
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Speaker 8: for next year?

518
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 7: I you know they are.

519
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: I agree with you, but I'm saying you're saying sell,

520
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 5: And I'm saying, what what are you pieces are they selling?

521
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, all these guys in one year contracts. Any

522
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 8: of these teams could give you some picks to help

523
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 8: them out. They might meet death man, they might.

524
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 6: Need a bey who's getting death.

525
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 8: You know, depth, veteran leadership, something like that. I'm just saying,

526
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Speaker 8: don't rule it out.

527
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Speaker 7: What you're saying, I'm with you.

528
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: Listen to everything.

529
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, these guys aren't helping you next year. You're now

530
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 8: building for next year.

531
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Speaker 6: Listen to everything.

532
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: Gree into everything you're saying. Into the point. Okay, what

533
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: can you get who?

534
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 7: Name me three.

535
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: Players that we can possibly get rid of for better

536
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: than a four fourth a better We don't we got

537
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: a team full of fifth sixth if.

538
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 7: The field.

539
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 8: Around Millie Cooker for a fifth or sixth even Ron

540
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson, Jack Martin, Donovan Wilson.

541
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Zach Martin might be the But again,

542
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: that's a that's almost a it's a very unique situation.

543
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 5: He would have to go to one of the top

544
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 5: four or five contending teams saying, you know what, we

545
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: really need to show up this side of the line,

546
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: and hopefully he can do it right.

547
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 6: But even in.

548
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: That they're they're saying, I'm not this guy is already old.

549
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: He's not the old Zach Martin that used to be,

550
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: and he's the word is that he's probably gonna retire

551
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: at the end of the season. So I'm not gonna

552
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 5: give you too much. I'm gonna give you a just

553
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: enough that's worth the rental for the rest of the year.

554
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 8: But you're gonna tell him no, if it's a seven.

555
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say no, I keep him around for a seventh.

556
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 6: Now if you say if you say five, you say fifth.

557
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 8: What if somebody wants Kendricks for a seventh?

558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 7: See you.

559
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 9: And now you now your defense can't line up? Then

560
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 9: they can't line up now.

561
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: They they at least line up at the beginning of

562
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: the plate. Oh jeez, I can't you boy, And I

563
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: love him, but anything, it ain't nothing.

564
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 7: I hate to tell you this.

565
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 9: It's nothing to sell, I know, but I'm just nothing

566
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 9: to sell. I gave you.

567
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Kurt, listen to everything, see what's out there.

568
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: But I also understand what y'all are saying, Like the

569
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: value is probably you don't have anybody worth value to

570
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: get anything back, Like.

571
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: Tank, his career is probably done, Like he's probably he's cooked,

572
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that, So for not cooked,

573
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 5: he's just career over with, so you ain't getting nothing

574
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: for him again. The the only guys that really have

575
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: true value that's reasonable would be Diggs, Micah or if

576
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: someone wanted to give you something for Zack. See, he's

577
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 5: not going anywhere. That's not going anywhere.

578
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 8: You're listening on Micah. They bring the house too young.

579
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: I mean, what's the house couple number ones or something?

580
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 8: I don't know.

581
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, two number ones.

582
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 9: So you're giving some serious story out here.

583
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: Take your two number one.

584
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: Anybody on this list, what do you want?

585
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, two number ones. I gotta, I gotta.

586
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: And he's a generational talent, but I'm I'm I'm at

587
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: this point in time, two number ones bring me back

588
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: a whole lot of other things, you know what I'm saying,

589
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 5: Like I can I can put those together and do

590
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 5: something else that I can bring back weeks with that.

591
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Speaker 4: Week nine and we're this is a legit conversation like

592
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: Week nine did y'all bro, Let's not see this.

593
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: We were week nine in the in the game that

594
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 5: you rattled off like the next three games Philly, Houston, Washington,

595
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: they were probably gonna lose those games with their starting courter. Yes,

596
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 5: so without your starting quarterback, I guess they'll they'll finally

597
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: give you what you've been asking for. They'll have to

598
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 5: run the football. You'll finally get a chance to see

599
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: Rico get twenty twenty two, twenty four carries.

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Speaker 7: Yo.

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Speaker 6: At this point in time, you ain't you ain't letting

602
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Speaker 6: Cooper Rush.

603
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 9: They ain't hesitate yesterday throwing that thing.

604
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: No, that's at the end of the game. Had no choice.

605
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: Now now a team Philly has an opportunity to game

606
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 5: plan all week long for Cooper Rush.

607
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: From last year they had that film. Was it two

608
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: years ago, then two years ago, three years ago, whatever?

609
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 7: Whatever it was.

610
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the way that they rolling and the way

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Speaker 5: this office a line player.

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Speaker 9: What let's just go I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 4: Let's go win four on the road, because because you

614
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean, the only thing that can make

615
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: this crazier this year is if you had a good

616
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: old quarterback controversy.

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Speaker 7: Let's go do it.

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00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: Quarterback, but it would be fun and Dallas Nate Noon

619
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Speaker 2: always hated me.

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Speaker 9: I got me a running back, and I'm gonna show.

621
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Speaker 7: You I know how to mix it is killing man

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Speaker 7: always hated on me. Let's see what he hate on

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Speaker 7: me after this?

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Speaker 6: See if he will see if he called me him

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Speaker 6: after this? Don't we don't know?

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627
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Speaker 4: If y'all hadn't been watching that dude, he's nice man,

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Speaker 4: he might be the best.

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Speaker 7: He might be the best. Thing going tell you that?

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Speaker 4: We want to know how everybody feels us to really yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: because we're gonna have to get creative with this show

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Speaker 4: if this keeps going serious, because I don't think we

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Speaker 4: want to come in here every Monday and talk about

688
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Speaker 4: how bad can this get? Let's just talk, let's just

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Speaker 4: put it out there before.

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Speaker 6: It how bad six?

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Speaker 4: And I'm not losing. I'm talking about record. I'm not

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Speaker 4: talking about record. I'm talking about all the ancillary stuff

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Speaker 4: that started happening two and three weeks ago. Because you're

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Speaker 4: in week nine, you have eight more weeks of this.

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Speaker 4: If you do this very realistically, if you lose bad,

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Speaker 4: which could happen against Philly, Houston and Washington, all three

697
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Speaker 4: of those teams are capable of putting up fifty on you,

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Speaker 4: and you're.

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Speaker 5: La Moore is gonna have that da He's gonna have

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Speaker 5: that Dan Campbell mentality, I'm going to embarrass you, to

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Speaker 5: embarrass you at home. Yeah, Like I'm coming to your

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Speaker 5: house and I'm trying to.

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Speaker 4: Put he might be up forty with two minutes left

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Speaker 4: and we're not kneedling the ball, and their head coaches

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Speaker 4: a hole.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Sirianni will be like, oh yeah, let's

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Speaker 5: go Philly special. We're up forty, let's go Philly Special.

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Speaker 5: He would do that. He would, he would one hundred

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Speaker 5: percent do that.

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Speaker 4: So don't think that that and then put in the

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Speaker 4: same way, Yeah, so, how bad Losing is one thing, right,

712
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Speaker 4: but it's all the players talking and the and the

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Speaker 4: and then you start getting into if the season is lost,

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Speaker 4: do you get into business decision issues and effort on

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Speaker 4: the field and why, you know, just human nature? Why

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Speaker 4: am I out there risking my you know, do you

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Speaker 4: start doing like how bad can this get? Theoretically because

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Speaker 4: we speak in theoretical situations, but like this could spiral

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Speaker 4: way out of control, right, like it could get bad bad.

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Speaker 6: Remember on Boomerang when Eddie Murphy pulled the sheets.

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Speaker 4: Back, No I'm talking about Kurt No, what.

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Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy was with Robin Gibbings and he pulled those

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Speaker 5: sheets back and those busted tote It can get that ugly,

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Speaker 5: They can get that ugly, like it can and what

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Speaker 5: you're going to have. I look forward to the podcast.

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Speaker 5: I look forward to the Michael Parson podcast. Now. Now,

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Speaker 5: I want to hear what he got to say. I

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Speaker 5: want to hear Tim heray that break this down. I

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Speaker 5: think it's tonight nights. Yeah, I want to hear what

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Speaker 5: they got to say. But you're gonna start hearing things

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Speaker 5: come out of the locker room, players saying things. Uh,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna see I mean, I think you've already seen

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Speaker 5: the quick throughout the week. Gods are playing with with

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Speaker 5: some effort on Sundays. But yeah, this is gonna get bad, man,

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Speaker 5: This is gonna get bad. And the longer you keep

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Speaker 5: these coaches around and those questions continue to mount each

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Speaker 5: and every week, you're gonna see Mike McCarthy get real,

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Speaker 5: real frustrated and snarky in the media, and Mike Zim

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Speaker 5: and Jerry Jones and Steven Jones. Because when you don't

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Speaker 5: have an answer for the bad you, you you lash out.

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Speaker 5: And no one's going to stop asking the questions. And

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Speaker 5: we're all going to point back to the fact that

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Speaker 5: six months ago you told me all in.

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Speaker 6: We're not no one's ever going to leave let that go.

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Speaker 5: And so they're gonna keep asking the questions about what

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Speaker 5: are you gonna do, what are you gonna do, how

747
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Speaker 5: are you gonna fix this? Its just have you come

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Speaker 5: to the point in time where you realize now that

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Speaker 5: maybe you shouldn't be the GM. These are the questions

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Speaker 5: that people are probably gonna start asking him to his face,

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: not on us, just speculating, they're gonna start asking it.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, this thing can get bad man.

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Speaker 5: This thing can get bad, and if you have any

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Speaker 5: more injuries that also ads to that.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the run game before we get out

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Speaker 4: of here. Why are we so reluctant nate to run

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Speaker 4: the ball or try to get in the rhythm because

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Speaker 4: the game was never really out of control at any point,

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Speaker 4: but it seemed like they.

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Speaker 2: We have said it, We have said it since day one,

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Speaker 2: even when Jason was here in the offensive coordinator mine

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Speaker 2: just one or two bad run plays are things don't

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Speaker 2: seem like it's going right, and all they know is

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Speaker 2: to pass. And then once they go that route, you see,

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Speaker 2: you can't come back to the run. You you can't

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Speaker 2: come back to the run unless you've been successful. See

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Speaker 2: they've had no sustained success in this run game.

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Speaker 9: So it ain't like we coming back to it. So

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Speaker 9: once they started throwing.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna keep throwing because they know one or two

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Speaker 2: big plays like shooting three. You know, one or two

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Speaker 2: big plays, and you back in it like they you know,

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Speaker 2: like yesterday when we got that false hope.

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Speaker 7: Oh we back in it.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Cooper has put us back in it. But

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Speaker 2: the real the real analysts.

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Speaker 9: Know, like that's fake that's just how it go and.

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Speaker 4: What happened, Kurt. There were a lot of different reports

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Speaker 4: and speculation and stuff on the zeked on the trip Saturday. Right,

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Speaker 4: he didn't.

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Speaker 8: Make the trip disciplinary reasons. I guess late to meetings

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Speaker 8: is what they announced. So the habitual, Yeah, habitual late meeting.

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Speaker 4: Which was a surprise, Right, had y'all heard I hadn't

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Speaker 4: heard anything about that uptil.

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Speaker 8: Hadn't been had been said before. So I mean, it's

786
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Speaker 8: you gotta wonder if it sounds like he's becoming a distraction.

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Speaker 8: Now he's not producing on the field, so why is he.

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Speaker 5: I look at that Zeke situation and how it's all

789
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Speaker 5: broken down. I think it is another one of those

790
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Speaker 5: situations where from the time that he got signed here,

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Speaker 5: it was Jerry telling him one thing, how we're going

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Speaker 5: to use you, how we're gonna play you, and then

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Speaker 5: Mike saying another thing about what he wanted, how he

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Speaker 5: wanted to go with this thing, and another one of

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Speaker 5: these situations where what the owner says and with the

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Speaker 5: head coach says not being the same thing. Because when

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Speaker 5: you look at it, you have this inconsistency about who's

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: going to get the carries and who's not gonna get

799
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Speaker 5: the carries? And then you hear Jerry say one thing

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Speaker 5: in the media, and then you go have Rico have

801
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: his best game in Pittsburgh, and then the very next

802
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 5: game you don't touch the ball. You don't touch the ball.

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Speaker 5: And in between those two things you have a complaining player.

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Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, he's getting the rock.

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Speaker 5: And then when you hear about the late to meetings,

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Speaker 5: the late two team meetings to practice and all this

807
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: kind of stuff, like you one of the.

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Speaker 6: Things that they brought Zeke in for was his leadership.

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Speaker 4: And that's what that's what surprised me about the discipline everything,

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Speaker 4: because you always hear, especially the players, he's a great

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Speaker 4: locker room guy. He brings us up, he brings us together,

812
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: he's a good he's a good player, and you would

813
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Speaker 4: think if you get we're getting mixed signals like that,

814
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: he would be whatever's best for the team, right. That's

815
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Speaker 4: why that surprised me that he was having these issues.

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Speaker 5: And then you add on top of that, here's where

817
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Speaker 5: like you bring Dak into the mix and situations that

818
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Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't even be it, but he's in it

819
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Speaker 5: now because we all know in this locker room, that's

820
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Speaker 5: your best friend. So now when your best friend leader

821
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Speaker 5: is in the is not showing up to meetings, is late.

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Speaker 5: It's coming here with other issues and causing problems.

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Speaker 4: And that's like if Kurt gets out of line, Me

824
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: and Nate look at you and got right right.

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Speaker 5: But now it's like it's like if my boy's not

826
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: acting right, but I'm telling y'all get right, and you're like,

827
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Speaker 5: hold on, you get me get right? Hey, what about

828
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 5: your boy? He missed the whole team meeting the third

829
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Speaker 5: time this week? Now, Now how did that play for

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Speaker 5: Dak being a leader on this football team and him

831
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Speaker 5: being able to lead the rest of the guys. And

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Speaker 5: we talked about it last week when Dak came out

833
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Speaker 5: and said, guys need to do more.

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Speaker 6: Now, was that a shot at his best I don't know,

835
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Speaker 6: but hindsight, hindsight, maybe it looks like it is.

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Speaker 5: So it's one of those like like Zeke was really

837
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Speaker 5: brought in here to be what JJ Barea was or

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Speaker 5: your Donna's Haslam or Juwan Howard the late years of

839
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Speaker 5: their career. Hey, listen, we're gonna give you a million

840
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Speaker 5: dollars a year. You're probably not gonna play a lot,

841
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 5: but you're gonna practice really hard. What you're around, show

842
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 5: these other guys what it is to be a professional,

843
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Speaker 5: show him how to study, show them how to get

844
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 5: here on time, show all the other things. And now

845
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 5: you're not doing this. And lastly, and then you'll understand this.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to athletes, we are always the last

847
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Speaker 5: ones to know.

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Speaker 6: We ain't got it.

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Speaker 5: And from the time that Zeke was playing football Pop Warner,

850
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 5: middle school, little league, whatever it was, high school, he

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00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 5: has been the best player.

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Speaker 6: He's been totally. He's been the best player he's been

853
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 6: played as the best.

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Speaker 5: Player high school, college, and then when he got to

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00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: the league, there was a period of time when he

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00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: was the best, hands down, the best running.

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Speaker 6: Back in the National Football League.

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00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 7: And then you're not.

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00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: And that's a hard thing to deal with.

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00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: A mental part of it, because in your head, you know,

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00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: you we watch and we make fun of when he

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00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: does his off he's in workouts and and the guy's

863
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: making all the noises and all that kind of stuff,

864
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 5: and he's going through this in his head. I still

865
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: got it. Hell is Daddy even said it out loud.

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 5: My son still got it. But in reality, you don't.

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Speaker 5: And that's a very very hard pill to swallow, and

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00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: when you're faced with it, your reaction to it at

869
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Speaker 5: times is one that doesn't that doesn't come off as

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Speaker 5: you would want it to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, to show us over, it's one forty six and

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Speaker 2: we're goin to do what we do.

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Speaker 9: We should have did Iseke cut him? Oh that's that's that?

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Speaker 9: That that right there, I expect that to come out

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Speaker 9: of your mind.

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Speaker 7: That that is.

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Speaker 2: I've been down for the last ten years. You can't

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Speaker 2: tell me how much I've backed Zeke. You have, I've

879
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: loved Zeke have. I talked to Zeke and I said,

880
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: Zeke man, be a leader. I told him, say, hey,

881
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: be a leader. Help these young guys do what it takes.

882
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: He looked me in the face. He didn't say yes

883
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: or no. But if you're going to start changing this team,

884
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: you can't have that guy on this team.

885
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: I don't care who you are.

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00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: You if you want to change your team, you got

887
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: to change that type of attitude.

888
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 7: And guys, there's no money.

889
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: The money he's getting and he's going to get it anyway,

890
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: So you got to change. You got to start today

891
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: changing that attitude. You say, can it get worse? Yes,

892
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: if you leave that type of guy on your team,

893
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: it can't get worse. If you start taking these guys away,

894
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: it'll start to get better. You may not be here

895
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: to see it get better, but it will start to

896
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: get better.

897
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 7: Agree, disagree, Agree.

898
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, day, I listen of.

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Speaker 5: All the things I expected to hear today, that was

900
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 5: not one.

901
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: No.

902
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to get cookies.

903
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Well that's an ender.

904
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: Jesse good sining you, Kurt good, seeing you May good,

905
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: seeing you. Barring any visits or text from Derek to

906
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: come up to the office, we'll be back tomorrow, the

907
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: same time, same place. We kind of went in hard

908
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: today a little bit, but you know what I mean

909
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: is what it is. You know, it's nine weeks in

910
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: and no one thought we'd be here, right, So things

911
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: will get better tomorrow because we're gonna take phone calls.

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Speaker 6: They won't fire McCarthy. Why didn't they fire us?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Chris, thanks for keep us on the air. Jazz

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Speaker 4: and Josh, thanks for keeping him company. We'll be back tomorrow,

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00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 4: same time, same place.

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Speaker 7: The Boys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys Come and

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