1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: My wife cheated on me with our son's baseball coach. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: This is Okyop, home to the craziest true stories on Earth. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia and Riley. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Wow, you're hitting percentage low. You need to swing a 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: little hard hit on you. Wow, there's so many Did 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: you swing that way? Did you? Did you because you 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: weren't a better because you weren't a good enough picture. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that makes sense. But another time, there's 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: a picture and a catcher. 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Yes, sure so, Makers on the Rock says. Wife just 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: told me that she's been seeing someone for the past 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: six months, been married eight years, five and six year 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: old kids. Oh yeah, this is horrible. 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: I've been madly in love the whole time. 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: She's an amazing person and mother literally keeps the family 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: together and mother and it's just spectacular, truly. Another she 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: was showing me something on her phone and I saw 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a text come in saying I love you. 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: More just my cousin, it's just my foreign brother, And 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: I asked who it was. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: She explained it was a coworker that she's been helping out, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: and I thought nothing more of it. She she told 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: you as a coworker, and you were like, yeah, coworkers 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: say I love you all the time. 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: That's true, we do. We also live together. Yeah that's different. 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Who's a coworker. We don't say I love you too, 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: just like no, i'd still I'd still till our editor, Zachie, 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: I love you, I love you, I love you more 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: like any of you editors. I love you editors. 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I still because. 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: But not Okay, okay, I would say I love you, 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: but not more. Yeah. 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just weird that she like her 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: way to cover up instead of being like, oh, this 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: is a family member. 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a final same excuse a worker. 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: That day, we had a lot of family over to 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: celebrate our daughter's birthday and it was a wonderful time. 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Oh because if she would have said family member, maybe 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: that would have helped. Yeah, she missed that opportunity. What 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: what Yeah, not that I want. 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: I'm advocating for this or trying to give people, you know, ways. 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: To do it. But this was a lame excuse. It 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: was a lame excuse. 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: What she should have done was been like, it's a 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: family member, and then if he was like, I don't 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: know if he was going to ask any follow up questions, 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: she sends the same. She's like, hey, love you, and 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: then she gets them to say I love you. 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: More somehow, I don't know. There you go, there you go, but. 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: She's lame excuses. Some stayed overnight. So the next day, 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: after a wonderful weekend, getting company out and putting the 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: kids down, my wife said she needs to tell me something. 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Uh oh uh oh, Well, that I love you more 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: was not from her coworker, well at least not the 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: one she explained it was, but I'm not sure because 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: she's not sharing any details regarding the other person. 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: She told me that six months. 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Ago, when I was in a dark place and have 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: since come out of no drugs except weed and booze, 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: which we both partaken, she found love from someone else. 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Love I wasn't providing in our relationship. If I have 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: feelings for someone else, I'm not sure that I should 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: have married. It's not fair to you or me. I 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: never planned for this to happen, but now that it's 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: a reality, we. 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: Need to deal with it. Interesting. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: She explained that she wasn't looking for someone else, It 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: just happened a friendship that bloomed into more. She also 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: told me that they have not been intimate and explained 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: that as a sexual relationship. Wait what she said, they 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: haven't been intimate, but they have a sexual relationship. 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Yah, that's pretty intimate. 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty intimate. Oh oh wait, sorry, I think I 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: understand what she's saying. She said, we haven't been intimate 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: and intimate meaning we haven't had sex. 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, I was just like this intimate mean 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: you have to have eye contact? Yeah what are you saying? 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: You staring? 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Does? What? What? Okay, you just completely missed what I said, 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: because sexual relationship but not being intimate. And I'm like, oh, 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: do they not have eye contact? You said? I meant 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: like they don't look at each other? Well like doing 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: the whatever? You meant that there they were, because I 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: when we were however, whatever whatever. She says. 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Life is too short and she wants to be happy. 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: She's proud of all the changes I've made and I've 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: always been a good dad, but I've grown into a 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: great daddy, and my kids and I have never been closer. 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: But she wants to be one happy and the changes 91 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: I've made haven't gotten her there, so she's seeking elsewhere. 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh you're not it, buddy, you're not it. That doesn't 93 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: give you an excuse to emotions. It just sounds like 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: emotionally cheating. 95 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is emotionally chitting. She says, this person make 96 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: because she's they're already at. 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: The I love you stage. Yeah. 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: Oh, she says, this person may not be the one 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent answer, but she worries that I'm at the 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: best I can be and it's not enough yet. She's 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: not giving me specifics. We've had a beautiful, loving relationship. 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: We are known to be well out together, well out together, 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: well off. Maybe we are known to be well off 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: together and have our stuff in line. We'd be the 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: last couple that folks would think this is happening too. 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: Mmm. 107 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: So I'm devastated, absolutely totally ripped apart, and don't know 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: what to do. We own a house together, what we're 109 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: making payments on. I carry no debt besides said home, 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: and she's in the same position. We had a perfect 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: life together and I'm suddenly being blindsided by this six 112 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: month relationship where she had feelings for and thinks it's 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: best we split. I have no idea how to move forward. 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I told her she needs to let her family know 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: what's going on, so I can tell mine it's her 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: cat to let out of the bag. It's just so 117 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: sad for a kids. When we were dating and in marriage, 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: cheating was the one of the things that would break us. 119 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: We both came from broken families and it was something 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: I never. 121 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: Wanted for our kids. Oh. 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I just feel so hollow and broken. She is slush 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: was everything to me, and I'm so thankful for the 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: ten years we've been together. 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Ten years dikes. 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: But I think the writing is on the walls and 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm helpless. It's all up to her. I'm broken into 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: a million pieces. And there is a five month update. Whoa, yeah, 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: so we can see what happened, you know, how things 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: shook out. 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: Ay, that is sad, Like, that's really sad. He's put 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: in the work. Yeah, he did. She did work. Anyway, 133 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: he did a lot of work. 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: I think it's also again like it's not necessarily like 135 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have made the wife an a hole if 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: she was like you know, I know longer have those 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: feelings because you were in that dark place blah blah blah. 138 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: And I want to like lead the relationship. But the ale, 139 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: like obviously the ale thing is that she cheated on him. Yeah, 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: like you weren't able to be big enough to end 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: that relationship. 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's huge. Yeah. It really does 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: suck too. The kids. The kids. Yeah, the freaking kids 144 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: have to go through this. Yeah, that really sucks. And 145 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: they're pretty young. Are sad? They're so young and like 146 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: now they have to be now hold up. I'm just 147 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: for kids because that's how they grew up and having 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: to grow up in that same Brooker. They're not they're 149 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: not breaking the cycle. Sad. 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: So update five month update, So we spent some time 151 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: apart and. 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: She continued her relationship with him. 153 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Oh. 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: I did some digging in the meantime and looked at 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: the phone records to find that it was our son's coach. 156 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know that was in the title. 157 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: But jesus, you just wanted. 158 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: To practice, Yeah, help hitting. I called her out on it, 159 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: and she wait, there's more, Okay, there's more. She needed 160 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: help hitting, She needed some balls thrown at her. Is 161 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: it bad? We need to work on this. I need 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: to work on this. Come on, baseball references. I don't 163 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: know baseball references. I don't even know baseball, But like 164 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: there's so many opportunities here. Yeah, I don't do sports. 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: I called her out on it, and she could still 166 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: continue the relationship. I saw a lawyer and he told 167 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: me to not leave the house or the kids and 168 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: either try to work it out or time to leave 169 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: and see a therapist. 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Wait, what this is a bad lawyer. 171 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Either try to work it out or work out a 172 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: time to leave and see a therapist. 173 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: I think that's not it's saying what I don't know. 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: My therapist says she's a narcissist and that I should 175 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: protect myself, protect my kids and run. He's like, I 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: didn't say this, but my therapist said she's a narcissist, So. 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: Time out. The lawyer being like, yeah, stay Yeah, well, 178 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: the therapist is like run. Shouldn't that. I think he's 179 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: saying stay in the house because so he doesn't love 180 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: custod gotcha. Yeah. 181 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Come December, she said she had cut it off with 182 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: him and wanted to try again. 183 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: No, no, uh uh. 184 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: I gave her all the effort in the world, but 185 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't feel like her soul's been in it. 186 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: Wait, he gave her his nag a chance. 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: She's not over compensating or has even truly apologized for 188 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: what she's done. 189 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: I also got access to her photos. 190 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm the admin on the family Google account, and she 191 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: doesn't know that I've seen all I have. She framed 192 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a picture of him and had it maybe still does 193 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: what at her desk? What I found naked selfie she 194 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: sent him that I haven't even received. I found a 195 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: picture of his naked butt in our beach condo, which 196 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I thought was neutral space as we were not sharing 197 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: it during our time apart. 198 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Wait time, out of time time, So she physically cheated. 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: She did fit well no, no, no, at this time they 200 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: were broken up. Okay, okay, but still but but like, okay, 201 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: she's taking him to like a shared beach condo. The 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: picture of him that's framed, a frame picture picture of 203 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: frame picture pictures of people. 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't know a frame picture of my family. 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: That's insane. The only frame picture I have is with 206 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: me and my great grandfather. Yeah, no, that's whack. That's 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: what it was. 208 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Five, that's whack. Like my parents have frame pictures, but 209 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: they're adults. 210 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're adults. 211 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm none of their adults, and I guess these are adults. 212 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: But like, that's not even like your you know, husband, 213 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: or anything that's like the guy you cheated on with 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: a couple of months, for a couple of months. 215 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: Dude. You know what's crazy in modern movies now, they're 216 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: not gonna have pictures of people on the walls because 217 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't think people do that anymore. We do that. 218 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: Where's a picture of people on the walls that aren't 219 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: not here but at my mom's house? Yeah, your mom's house, 220 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: But us our generation, are we gonna do that? Oh? 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: I don't know. Too much effort, someone think of an invention, 222 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 223 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Intriguing, op continues, I slept on those same sheets. Yeah, 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I hopefully she washed them. 225 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: He didn't. I know that she was at a. 226 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Fancy restaurant with someone else. She screenshots all those deep 227 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: love quotes that I know aren't about me so much 228 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: that it leaves wrench free in my head. She has 229 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: a white bracelet with one black bead that she now 230 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: wears every day. I've called her out on it. She 231 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: lied once and said it was from her mom, and 232 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: up til last week said, well, my best friend has 233 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: the matching one. Well, her affair partner wears an all 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: black one with one white bead. I know what that represents. Again, 235 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: she doesn't know. I've seen all of these things. It'd 236 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: be so cute if it. Yeah, I'm gonna pause for 237 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: a second, because why did he Why did he go 238 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: back into this relationship? She cheated on him, and then 239 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: when she broke up with her partner, she was like, actually, 240 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, like I think I'm actually interested 241 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: in you know, like she's just going back and forth. 242 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: He's like, bade himself to be a better person. Yeah, 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: And I feel like since he's put in all that 244 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: work and before he used to be a bad person, 245 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: he still thinks he owes her this. He's to prove 246 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: to himself that he's a better person. Yeah. I think 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: that's why he's still there. Yeah, which I don't think 248 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: he deserves. He does. 249 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: He fixed himself and now he's grown out of this person. 250 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. 251 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Again, she doesn't know. I've seen all these things. So 252 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: now to current day, I can't find anything that suggests 253 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: she's still with him, but I know she uses Snapchat 254 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: often and is secretive with her phone. Mmmm. 255 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's with them. I'm chat better than the snaw mill. 256 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 257 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: Whenever I bring up the affair, this blow up happens 258 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: because I said, I try not to bring it up 259 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: and get over it, but I simply can't. I'm not 260 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: rubbing it in, but it does come up when we argue, 261 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: which is almost every week. We do really well for 262 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: a bit, up to and including intimacy, but then something 263 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: happens and we go back. 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: To our shit. Nice. 265 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: She canceled our babysitter for trivia this past Tuesday and 266 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: for this Friday, where I got tickets for us to 267 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: see a show, but she doesn't want to go because 268 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I can't get over her affair. Yeah, obviously what her 269 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: parents mom and stepfather both cheated on their spouses for 270 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: each other and support my wife, and both call and 271 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: text me that it's unfair that I bring up her affair, 272 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: but she never apologized and the only reason she only 273 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: got back with him because it was convenient. 274 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: These parents suck. They have kids that she cheated on him, 275 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: literally cheated on him, and they're defending her. Dude, This 276 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: is the question she needs to ask herself, do you 277 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: want your kids to grow up cheating's okay? 278 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's how she grew up, and now she 279 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: thinks cheating's okay, and I can just come back to 280 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: my partner whenever I want, whenever it's you know, convenient 281 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: for me. The pictures of him live rent free in 282 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: my head almost constantly. I can't get past what she's done, 283 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: no matter how hard I try. I don't know what 284 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: to do. She's trying to make me the bad guy, 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've been here the whole time. I 286 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: didn't fall in love with someone else. I just don't 287 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: understand an emotional train wreck. And there is an update, 288 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: but yikes, what I can't believe she's gasol Like she's 289 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: literally like blaming him, gaslighting him, being like, oh no, 290 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: like it was you. 291 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: Why can't you just let this go? You're not a 292 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: good enough person. I'm getting bored. Yeah, no, this is you. 293 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Need to leave her. Though you need to leave her, 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: she is not it. 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: I hope and pray that she's not throwing all the 296 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: things that he did in the past in his face. 297 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it seems like she Probably she might be. 298 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know she did one that she first broke 299 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: up with him, But it also seems like she's still 300 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: seeing that other guy. She just wanted, like the maybe 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,239 Speaker 1: the the stability of the relationship. 302 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: But Also he's still getting to do. 303 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, still getting to do, like the cheating because she's 304 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: secretive on snapshot. 305 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: It's weird. That is very weird. 306 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: But there's an update. Well, long story short, I literally 307 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: just caught her at the family condo with the affair partner. 308 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, and photos and videos of his truck, his 309 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: belongings in the home, and her coming out of the 310 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: master bedroom where he stayed behind a closed door. Yeah 311 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: that was Yeah. I also went into our shared car 312 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: that she drove and it was unlocked in the parking 313 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: garage with an open high noon on the cup holder 314 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: and her wallet and belonging still in it. She came 315 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: home and tried to talk. It was a calm conversation, 316 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: but she kept saying it was my fault and if 317 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I communicated with her last night, I gray rocked her. 318 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 319 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: Then? 320 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Maybe she wouldn't have been with him like Stoneholder? 321 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: Why did he put an emoji here with gray rock? 322 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: Does this mean? 323 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe that means stonewall? Like he ignored her? 324 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: What does this mean? Gray Rocking a strategy to deal 325 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: with narcissists those who depend on feeling important or special, 326 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: and is essential essentially responding to them in bland, boring 327 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: ways until they lose interest. Eh, wha attactic used to 328 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: deal with abusive or manipulative behavior. That's yeah, because she 329 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: was blaming him and so he just gray rocked her. 330 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: Oh so it involves becoming uninteresting and unengaging as possible 331 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: so that the other person loses interest. Interesting. That that's interesting. 332 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh so she was saying you were being unengaging. Yeah, 333 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: and so that's why I cheated on you. 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: She was definitely just cheating on him the whole time. 335 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: So I communicated that I will be home later this 336 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: afternoons lash evening, so she's unexpectedly watching the kids today. 337 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to hang out with them, as she took 338 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: them away from me yesterday to go do activities, and 339 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I would do separate activities today. However, I'm not emotionally 340 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: able to give the kids the best of me right now, 341 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: and I definitely don't want to be around her. I 342 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: asked her if she could sleep in the kids room, 343 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: and she got upset and stated that our bed is 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: her bed and she'll sleep where she wants. I said, obviously, 345 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: because she always gets what she wants. I've been for 346 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: a six mile walk already and have been calling and 347 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: leaving voicemails at all the lawyers around. I know I 348 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: can't abandon the home, but I can't be around them 349 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: after what I just saw. Thank all of you who 350 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: responded earlier this week and suggested gray Rock and for me, 351 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: I implemented them, and I guess it drove her to this, 352 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: but I'm officially divorcing her and there's no going back 353 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: at it and baby updates. 354 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: Legal counsel told me. 355 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: To not contact hers, so that's what I'm doing. She 356 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: texted me last night all about how she hasn't asked 357 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: for a second chance even though I've given them, and 358 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: she loves me and she now is willing to do 359 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: therapy and share her locations and access to her phone 360 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: and can see herself rocking on the porch. 361 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: With me at eighty YadA YadA. 362 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: When I got home last night, she was in the master, 363 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: so I slept upstairs this morning. 364 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: No communication. She wouldn't even look at me. 365 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Yesterday when I caught them with video, I saw his 366 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: hat and noticed it was a local landscaper, so I 367 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: called to see if he worked there. 368 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: He does? Okay, Thanks? 369 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: That was it this m effort just called me saying, 370 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: if I want to talk to him, here's his number. 371 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Don't call my boss. I said, I have nothing to 372 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: say to you. He replied, and I have nothing to 373 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: say to you and hung up. That was solved, perfect. Nice, 374 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: we both have nothing to say to each other. 375 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Great, Well we have each other's numbers. Yeah. 376 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Also, her mom reached out and said, how I must 377 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: be devastated and she's so sorry, and to call her 378 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: when I have a chance. I'm going to continue no 379 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: contact with everyone and let my lawyer do all the talking. 380 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh. 381 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Also, okay, one, I appreciate that Opie's ex wife's mom 382 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: reached out to him, because this is so. It was 383 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: the dad and the stet wife who were like yeah, 384 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: but the mom got cheated on, was like, hey, this 385 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: really sucks. 386 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 387 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, No, I'm glad that he's getting divorced. He 388 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: definitely should have not gotten back together with his wife 389 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: the first time, because that, yeah. 390 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: That was not she's good to cheat, she was gonna cheat. 391 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: She got cheat. She's got type coaches or whatever. But 392 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: that's the whole story. Baseball Chambers, low key. These are 393 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: the type of people that lived in my hometown baseball 394 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: coaches and landscape wreath. Yeah, it's like it's got of 395 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: like blue collar jobs. Yeah, baseball coach is a blue 396 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: collar No, I mean like that's not their full time 397 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: it's a collar job. Yeah, but like I don't know, 398 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: it's something like that, it's a part time job or something. 399 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: This reminds me the one time I played baseball for 400 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: my high school. Yeah, and your baseball coach cheated. No. No, 401 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: I just was really bad at baseball. Oh. So I 402 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: went to a high school where basically they recruited people 403 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: for academics. So my class was like one hundred people 404 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: or whatever, and they needed someone to be on the 405 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: baseball team. And I was like, why not, I'll try it. 406 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: I've never tried it. Yeah, and I was pretty athletic. 407 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: They put me at a second base, but it was 408 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: so bad. I was so scared that the ball was 409 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: going to pop up and hit me in the face. 410 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Could not play, couldn't even hit the ball very well. 411 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: And the first game I had, I had twelve errors. 412 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: That mean, so an error is like you missed the ball, 413 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: it goes by you. Whatever. They counted up and it 414 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: was twelve. My god, and they moved me a third 415 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: base and then the people started hitting the ball towards 416 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: me at third base. Oh, and you were like, no, 417 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: this is exactly what I didn't want. Yeah, bummer. It 418 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: was really bad. And they tried to teach me how 419 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: to play baseball within one like, yeah, year, it was 420 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: not not good whatsoever. 421 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: I never played baseball like or softball or anything, but 422 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: in like gym class, sometimes we would do baseball and 423 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: that was always very fun. 424 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Apparently, just stuck with basketball and soccer. Yeah. I played 425 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: football for a little bit, but I didn't like it. 426 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: I did. I did soccer. I did basketball, I did volleyball. 427 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Basketball did yeah, very briefly. I did tennis very briefly. 428 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: I did I could see tennis. 429 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I did ballet longer, much longer than the rest. I 430 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: did horse bark riding briefly. I did swimming. 431 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: I hated it. It was too cold. It is very 432 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: cold here in California. Yeah, I was freezing. 433 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: I would always like have to leave the pool because 434 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: my lips are blue. I think that's all the sports 435 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: I did. 436 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: Wow. Nice. Yeah, my brothers love baseball. Yeah, they're pretty 437 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: good at it too. They're pretty good at basketball too. 438 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: Proud of those guys. Look at them, go, I know, dude, 439 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: they're doing so much better than I was at their age. 440 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: They learned from you, they learned my mistakes. They did better. 441 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, will never follow in his footsteps, will 442 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: be the best. 443 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes, think of what they think of me, because like, yeah, 444 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: you know, I'm out here in l A. And they're 445 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: back home and the home land. Yeah, like, what's old 446 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: Riley doing? Does he abandoned the family? I don't think 447 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: they think that. You don't know what they think. That's true. 448 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know. How could you don't know 449 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: what they think? 450 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: You can't assume anything. 451 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: I didn't ask him, like to rate me as a brother. 452 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: Oh wow, there ready to be higher than Tate my brother. 453 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: That was nice. That's crazy. Yeah, I should ask your 454 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: brother to rate you. I feel like I get a 455 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: high rating really because you're his only sister, because yeah, 456 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: he doesn't have any other comparison. 457 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: He's like, you're the only one I got. Yeah, but 458 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: that's all the stories we have today. 459 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. That's it. You'll have to wait until 460 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: tomorrow or if it's a live stream day. Yeah. 461 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, maybe this comes out on a Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, 462 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: or Friday. 463 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: You get two. But if it comes out on a 464 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: weekend or Wednesday, you're done. You're done for bummer. Huh. Yeah, 465 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: you love us. Make sure to subscribe We love you and. 466 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: See you tomorrow. This is an episode from Deep within 467 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: the Archives. Time for okop relash. I told my brother 468 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: his eulogy for his dead best friend was garbage, and 469 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: his reaction surprised me, like crying is the best friend. 470 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: So I am the writer in the family. Ever since 471 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: I've remembered, family of friends have been coming to me 472 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: for writing advice, whether it be college papers, cover letters, 473 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: or even wedding vows. 474 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: Ever since I was five, my dulmass family asked me 475 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: to write for them, and I'm always happy to help, 476 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: even though most of them are college educated adults who 477 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: should know what. 478 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: A comma splice is by now, idiot. But fast forward 479 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: to a few days ago when my brother's best friend 480 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: passed away. My brother is of course in shambles, and 481 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: he's adamant about giving the eulogy, even though he is 482 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: a blue collar shut up. He came to me and 483 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: he asked me to edit it because he wanted to 484 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: make sure he did his best friend proud. I mean yeah, 485 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: I agreed because he's my brother and I'm a talented editor. 486 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 5: Dude, stop jerking yourself off. 487 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: So he sent me his first draft over email, and 488 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: it was well terrible. Ope, who's the other carbage? This 489 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: may sound harsh, yes it does, my god, but writing. 490 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: Is my craft. 491 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: I hate this guy so much. 492 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: And if you ask me to edit something, I'm going 493 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: to edit it seriously and soberly, no matter what it is. 494 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 5: Man has no tax. 495 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: I mean zero. I want his best friend to die 496 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: like this is. And I think a second grader writing 497 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: about the goldfish he flushed down the toilet could have 498 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: evoked more emotion. 499 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: Yikes. 500 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: He's not like submitting a screenplay to Warner Bros. 501 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: He's just trying to show that he cares about his 502 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 5: dead friend. I basically told him as such. He said 503 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: that verbatim in kinder words, of course, because he's in 504 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 5: a difficult place, and I understand that. Do you op 505 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: what a kind empathetic soul you are? But I basically 506 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: told him the truth that it was structurally a mess 507 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: and thematically, frite, if you were actually trying to help 508 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: you wouldn't give feedback like that. You can give some 509 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: suggestions and just give suggestions. It's like, hey, this is 510 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 5: what I think, what do you think? 511 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: Of course, I gave him a myriad what an sat word? 512 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: I gave him a myriad of examples of how to 513 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: develop this piece more coherently. But guess what, Sam what? 514 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: He was having none of it? 515 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: Huh? Who kind of thunk? 516 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: He accused me of being condescending and inconsiderate and all 517 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: of this other BS nonsense, all because he asked for 518 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: my help and I gave it to him. 519 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: I just told him the truth. 520 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: And now we're in probably the worst fight of our lives, 521 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: just a few days before the funeral. So am I 522 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: have a hole? 523 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Bro? 524 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Like all right, I think it's fair 525 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 5: to actually give some feedback on a eulogy. 526 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: I think that's totally fine. 527 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: Right, you want your brother to commemorate his friend in 528 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: the best way possible, But like you leave suggestions, you 529 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: don't give feedback. That's unhelpful, right, That feedback is unhelpful 530 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 5: for someone who doesn't right. 531 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: I think it all depends on the temperament. If he's 532 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: if he came to him and he's like, listen, really 533 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: give me suggestions because I do actually want to do whatever. 534 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: Blah blah. Okay, cool, I'll make some suggestions. But if 535 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: he's just like, hey, could you look this over to Dada, 536 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 3: I'll give him some suggestions, but all I I'm prioritizing, 537 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 3: like look, you wrote this with your heart, like this 538 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: is beautiful, this is this is a great homage to 539 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: your friend. And though I mean it would have to 540 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: be like Bob, goodfriend, I have goldfish it go fus 541 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: fun baby. 542 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 543 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I I think the whole like if 544 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm in op shoes, my whole goal is to make 545 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: the friend feel good. 546 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah,