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Speaker 1: coordinators go to jobs and the quarterback sucks. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's Josh doing here? You know, what's he like when

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Speaker 1: I saw that Tyler Geiden, who was the Cowboys first

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Speaker 1: and down rookie season, that's kind of part for the course.

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Speaker 1: But your second year, like you get the whole off season,

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Speaker 1: You get a lay of the land. You know you're building,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially in a place like even for Tyler Guiden,

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Speaker 1: while he has a new head coach, the new head

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Speaker 1: coach was there, so he has a relationship with Brian Schottenneimer,

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Speaker 1: and you just kind of know your way around, and

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Speaker 1: it's a time when you really can hone in on

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Speaker 1: your craft. And I think the off season, especially for

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Speaker 1: offensive and defensive linemen, are huge on the fundamentals. And

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Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman that's a project. The way they

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Speaker 1: get good is and this is boring, and this is

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Speaker 1: down on a daily basis, no one would listen. But

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Speaker 1: the fundamentals of playing offensive tackle is like make or

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Speaker 1: break the success of ninety nine percent of people. There's

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Speaker 1: a small group of guys in the history of the

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Speaker 1: league at tackle they can just kind of get away

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Speaker 1: with Like, Eh, step was off, but Orlando pace didn't matter, right,

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Speaker 1: Walter Jones, Trent Williams, Like it's Jason Peters trip got

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Speaker 1: up and threw the defensive end seven feet the other way,

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Speaker 1: and that's not normal. Most guys have to be fundamentally sound.

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Speaker 1: And the way you build good fundamentals is, you know,

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Speaker 1: in practice, but specifically right now when you can really

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Speaker 1: really hone in on it. So I think there are

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Speaker 1: guys all over the league young players. And it's not

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Speaker 1: even just first round picks. It's guys that made the

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Speaker 1: team at guys that played all over you know, second, third,

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Speaker 1: fourth rounders. This is a huge, huge time of year

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Speaker 1: for them. Other than that, I you know, Tibbs was fired.

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Speaker 1: I met Tom years ago when I was doing radio.

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Speaker 1: and Tom. I think it was after he was fired

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Speaker 1: by the Bills. You know, Steve Kerr was big on

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Speaker 1: bringing these guys in and just they would hang out

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Speaker 1: and he was around a lot, or at least for

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Speaker 1: a couple of months. I remember. In it might have

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Speaker 1: been before Durant got there, so it might have been

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Speaker 1: like fifteen or fourteen with the Warriors, and I remember

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Speaker 1: just bsing with him and talking to him for a while.

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Speaker 1: He's a good guy, easy to talk to. Back that

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Speaker 1: was decade ago, but he got fired today and he

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Speaker 1: obviously led the Knicks to their best season and two

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Speaker 1: and a half day acades. And I think one hard

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Speaker 1: thing as a coach. And I would say this in

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Speaker 1: football and in basketball, and you could say this in

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Speaker 1: baseball too. The difference is in baseball they got a

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Speaker 1: ton of managers making like nine hundred grand. Like in basketball,

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Speaker 1: guy like Tom or any top coach is making millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars. Obviously, the head coaches in the NFL are

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Speaker 1: making a huge cash. They are so tunnel vision with

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Speaker 1: their team, especially late in the season in the playoff run,

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Speaker 1: that there's not a huge political element to the way

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Speaker 1: their job is built. Their only focus is try to

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Speaker 1: win games, deal with their assistance, and deal with their players. Now,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be a little political, I guess with

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Speaker 1: your players, especially in basketball, maybe a little more in football,

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Speaker 1: but like that's your focus. Where a GM's job is

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Speaker 1: actually much closer to just like a normal corporate job

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Speaker 1: in terms of running a huge budget. Their budget happens

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Speaker 1: to be the salary cap. You know, you negotiate a

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Speaker 1: lot of contracts. Hell, you negotiate a lot of your

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Speaker 1: coaching contracts. And I think I think that leads to

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Speaker 1: just natural backstabbing because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I would say ninety nine percent of executives could never coach.

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Speaker 1: They won They don't even have the capability of doing it. Two,

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Speaker 1: they don't they wouldn't have the personality to even attempt

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Speaker 1: to do that, And they wouldn't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of being a good coach is wanting

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Speaker 1: to help other people, right, Like you do have to

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Speaker 1: have some level of patience to be a good coach,

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Speaker 1: right Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll to you know,

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Speaker 1: basketball coaches from Spoe Toccur or whatever. There has to

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Speaker 1: be some sort of balance whereas an executive you can

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Speaker 1: just be very cutthroat. It's why what Bill was able

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Speaker 1: to manage for twenty years was pretty incredible, Like because

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Speaker 1: he had to coach the guys and get to know him,

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Speaker 1: but they also knew that, like he was in charge

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Speaker 1: of their money and he could cut you, fire you,

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Speaker 1: trade you at any moment. Like Andy's always had a GM,

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Speaker 1: so he could always kind of play the role of

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Speaker 1: good cop, bad cough, which is probably the healthiest thing

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Speaker 1: to do. It's like spow In Miami's got pat Riley

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Speaker 1: to play the bad guy, right. It's really really hard,

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Speaker 1: especially in this modern day with the amount of money

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Speaker 1: that's on the line of like doing it yourself. And

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Speaker 1: I think when I see that he gets fired, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's so easy for executives to point the finger

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Speaker 1: at the coach and listen, sometimes maybe he should get fired,

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Speaker 1: Maybe there is a better option out there. But I

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Speaker 1: just think it's You see it in the NFL a

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Speaker 1: lot during the season, and Michael Lombardi used to talk

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Speaker 1: about this all the time. Where do most gms sit.

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Speaker 1: They sit next to the owner in the suite. Well,

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Speaker 1: even if you're a good team, you're losing four or

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Speaker 1: five games. I mean, if you're a shitty team, you're

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Speaker 1: losing well over half your games. What do you think

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Speaker 1: the vibe is. Think of you as a fan when

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Speaker 1: you're sitting on your couch. If your team wins six

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Speaker 1: games that season, how angry you are most of those Sundays? Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think those guys that work seventy eighty

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Speaker 1: hour weeks that pick the players are telling the owner

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Speaker 1: good things are bad things. It's why they're always pointing

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Speaker 1: the fingers. And some guys get that reputation. Trent Balky

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Speaker 1: has it really bad that he is the ultimate backstabber.

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Speaker 1: But I think most guys intentionally or not just naturally

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Speaker 1: kind of lean that way because it's survival. It's why. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of impressive that in the giant situation that

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane and Brian da ball and maybe I've missed it,

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Speaker 1: there haven't been like super explosive articles of like one

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Speaker 1: guy tried to backstab the other guy and maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: that happened, or maybe it will happen, But it feels

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Speaker 1: inevitable when you lose that it happens when you win,

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Speaker 1: and it happens. Man, that shows you that there are

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Speaker 1: some people in there that I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: Let's do a little mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John

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Speaker 1: questions answered here on the show, Like Chase Steeler fan here.

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Speaker 1: With all the offensive problems the Steelers have, could it

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Speaker 1: all really be fixed with the right young quarterback or

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Speaker 1: would the Steelers current setup only serve to stunt a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback's growth. My brother is a lifelong Commanders fan,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he would have called me crazy a

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Speaker 1: year ago had I told him the right guy would

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Speaker 1: have them in the NFC Championship. If the Steelers were

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Speaker 1: suddenly given Jaden Daniel talent, would they be crazy good

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Speaker 1: with the current infrastry. Yes, I think it's a long

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Speaker 1: way away. If I give any talented team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys. You guys are winning nine ten games every

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Speaker 1: year with just a hodgepodge of different quarterback options, from

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Speaker 1: Trubisky to Piket to Mason Rudolph to I guess now Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Who If Rogers the quarterback, you'll probably win nine to

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Speaker 1: ten again too. Now, I think if Mason Rudolph's got

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Speaker 1: to be your full time quarterback and Rogers never shows up,

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Speaker 1: you'd be in trout. If I gave you Jaydeen Daniels

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Speaker 1: or Josh Allen or just some elite guy, you'd be

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Speaker 1: fucking good. I mean, yes, you would be good. Would

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Speaker 1: you win the Super Bowl? I don't know. Maybe, I

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Speaker 1: mean last year defense was playing like crap at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, But yes, it would. It would

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Speaker 1: dramatically change some stuff. Now, the AFC, especially your division,

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Speaker 1: is a little harder than some plights to get where

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Speaker 1: you want to go. But I do think with a

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Speaker 1: team like the Steelers, I think it would have dramatic impact. Yes,

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Speaker 1: my question is realistically, how do you think the Chargers

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Speaker 1: will do. I've been a diired fan since the qualcom days,

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Speaker 1: and I truly believe it's one of the hardest teams

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Speaker 1: to be a fan of. No super bowls, haven't won

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Speaker 1: our division well over a decade. And although I think

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Speaker 1: Herbert is an amazing quarterback and is all the talent,

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Speaker 1: the playoff performance is kill him. Give a brother some hope.

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty bullish. Just look at Harbaugh's track record.

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Speaker 1: He wins, so I would say I'd be pretty cocky

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Speaker 1: about being a playoff team. Now, how that meshes how

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Speaker 1: we look is gonna come down to, like Sklil Mack

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Speaker 1: giv you twelve sacks, does the rookie running back give

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Speaker 1: you thirteen hundred yards or ten? You know, I almost

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Speaker 1: a ten hundred yards one thousand yards and like forty

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Speaker 1: five catches and becomes like a complete back for you,

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Speaker 1: and Nase's is a solid role player, and your running

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Speaker 1: game is more consistent than last year because because of

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Speaker 1: the injuries, I'd feel pretty good. You have a high

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Speaker 1: end coach, you have an excellent defensive coordinator. Division's hard,

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Speaker 1: Division's hard. But I would like my chances if I

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Speaker 1: were you. Remember I picked you guys to make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year four to one, and every Tom, Dick

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Speaker 1: and Harry was like middle cooffe, You're an idiot. They're

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Speaker 1: not good enough. Well, actually they are because Gim Harbaugh's

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Speaker 1: as a Bears fan who thought Naggi had all the

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Speaker 1: goods to become an elite head coach play caller. Knowing

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Speaker 1: what we know now, Trubisky is a career backup and

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Speaker 1: the overall success Naggi had with the organization two playoff

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Speaker 1: appearances in four years. Do you think he gets another

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Speaker 1: head coaching opportunity in the league or does he take

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Speaker 1: over in Kansas City when Andy decides to retire. I

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Speaker 1: think gets another shot. I mean, I mean, I'm biased here,

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Speaker 1: Naggy's my guy, but I'm trying to look up how

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Speaker 1: old he is. He's forty seven years old. He's on

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Speaker 1: the most consistent franchise with the best quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: league for years now. I'd be stunned, especially if they

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Speaker 1: you know, some of these offensive guys hit and they're

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Speaker 1: a high end offense. Again, like you said, listen, the

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Speaker 1: Bear's tough place to coach, and Trubisky, Trubisky is bad,

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Speaker 1: seems like a good guy. I saw Josh Allen had

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Speaker 1: him in his wedding, high character, and I've knew some

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Speaker 1: people beside Naggie that worked at the Bears. Everyone liked

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Speaker 1: them like people like Mitch Trubisky. The person, bad player,

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Speaker 1: no feel, no instincts, no touch. Hard to win with

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Speaker 1: a guy like that, And listen, I think, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, he's going to be dependent on a

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Speaker 1: good coordinator. And when he had Vic Fangio, that team

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Speaker 1: was really good and that double doink. I think thousand

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Speaker 1: percent he'll get another shot. Thirty eight years old, three

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Speaker 1: kids under nine, healthcare sixty. This guy's a grinder. I

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Speaker 1: love football and I love the Bills. I love winning

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Speaker 1: money even more. You have mentioned some big wins on

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Speaker 1: Pod Guess with so many games, so many potential bets,

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Speaker 1: how do you zero in on a few bets to

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Speaker 1: make each week? Well, some of my biggest bets have

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Speaker 1: been in golf, where you get crazier odds, so you

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Speaker 1: bet five hundred dollars on someone to win twenty to one.

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Speaker 1: You know, do the math, you're winning ten grand. So

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Speaker 1: to win a lot of money in football, you got

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Speaker 1: to put a lot of money down. And I've also lost.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've had some devastating playoff losses. I think

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Speaker 1: football I really pick and choose. I would say I

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Speaker 1: just whatever I believe in the most. I think the

640
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: hard part is with football for me, is part of

641
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: gambling is obviously you follow it, you follow the numbers,

642
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: and you also get a gut feel like I really

643
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: like this team in this spot, but like I don't

644
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: really get a high off betting one hundred dollars, So

645
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: I got to be kind of careful because I love

646
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: to gamble, So I just kind of pick and choose.

647
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean, and there's a game or two each week

648
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: that I that I like. Same with college football, and

649
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: I also to kind of keep me involved sometimes because

650
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't always feel comfortable, you know, just betting thousands

651
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: of dollars. You know, football's I mean, it can be

652
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: fucking easy to easy to lose. I do do a

653
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of parlays. That's where I can bet fifty bucks

654
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks and be entertained for the day, so

655
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I can take three teams or definitely like three guys

656
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown. That's one thing I started doing

657
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: last year. I think there was one parlay I hit

658
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: with a player prop that was like one hundred and

659
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: fifty dollars and paid like seventy five hundred dollars. It

660
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: was like, I forget like three or four guys to

661
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: score touchdowns and Jamar Chase to score two. And it

662
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: was a mon ant football game and Jamar Skate Chase

663
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns. It was incredible. So I kind of

664
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: do that sometimes more than do super aggressive bets on

665
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: football games, because like listen, you have five grand on

666
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: the Niners in the Super Bowl and all of a

667
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: sudden they lose. It sucks. I've learned my lesson, don't

668
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: bet against the Chiefs unless they're playing the Eagles in

669
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, which I didn't touch. I

670
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: just bet a lot on golf because of odds. I mean,

671
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: because I can bag eye top ten or top twenties.

672
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: It's like four to one odds. Where in football to

673
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: get plus three point fifty, I mean that is a

674
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: massive underdog. Dear John, this is Jocko, not the famous podcaster.

675
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: My question relates to podcasting and commentating on the NFL.

676
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Do you think the podcasting pipeline will eventually lead to

677
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: commentating people like Edelman, Taylor, Lwan, and Kelsey would be great.

678
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: They could bring new fresh ideas to the table and

679
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: help commenting grow. Do you think it could would go

680
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: if offered big bucks? Well, let's use Kelsey as an example.

681
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: He does do Thursday night football on the panel, right

682
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: or I guess he's on Monday night football, so he travels.

683
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: But it's a little less work to do the pre

684
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: and postgame show than it would be to call the game.

685
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of pressure there. Let's use Luwan

686
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: as a better example. I'm with you. I think he'd

687
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: be good, big personality, Players like him, coaches like him.

688
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Just easy hang Edelman, same thing. Those guys are making

689
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean, Taylor's making a huge

690
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: money now. The fan duel bought his podcast. Same thing

691
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: with Will Compton. I think Will Compton be good. You

692
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: don't always just need to be a huge famous name.

693
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: But it's like I want to travel every single week

694
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Speaker 1: to a different game, and most of these guys aren't flying,

695
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: like I gotta go to the airport like travel like

696
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: me and you. So it's tough. I mean, for Tony

697
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Romo and Tom Brady, traveling sucks, but it's a lot

698
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: easier in the PJ. Yeah yeah, waiting in the Southwest

699
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: line B thirty two right, Hey, are you be thirty one?

700
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Want to be thirty three? Right? They fucking just go

701
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: to the airport, take off, come home after the game.

702
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: So I think it's hard back to the Frank Ragnow

703
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: thing retiring. These guys made big money, so to get me.

704
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: These guys have young kids to fly around like. You

705
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: can make a really good living podcasting. You don't have

706
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: to go anywhere. I mean, how I'm seeking office space.

707
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: I could do this from home forever. Not that I

708
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: will never not have a home office, but it's like

709
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I do need to get out of the house. So

710
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: I've been looking around for office space because I got

711
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: to mix sit up. Uh my question, my little brother

712
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: is getting recruited by some big programs like Florida, Indiana, Kentucky.

713
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: My question is, what do you think big time recruits

714
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: should be looking at when choosing a school. I feel

715
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: like stability and opportunity are the biggest things, But is

716
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: there anything else vital that you think we should be considering.

717
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: I would say this, the thought of what matters and

718
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: what doesn't matter has changed dramatically over the last couple

719
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: of years, because one you could be like, choose the school,

720
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: choose a program that you're comfortable with, a coaching staff

721
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: that you're comfortable with. We know, it's all kind of

722
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: bs right, unless you're going to play for like Kirby

723
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Smart the schools you just listed Florida, if their coach

724
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: doesn't win, he's going to get fired. I mean Indiana.

725
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I know they had a great season last year, but

726
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be at a huge disadvantage on a

727
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: yearly basis to Penn State to Ohio State, to Michigan

728
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: to Oregon, Kentucky. Impressive school. I mean Mark Stoop's long

729
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: term contract, so that's like that, that's a good example.

730
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: Guy is probably gonna be there for a little while.

731
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: But these coaches can all leave, and your coordinator and

732
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: position coaches can all leave. You know, most guys make

733
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: these decisions now based on money. If things don't go well,

734
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: you can change schools. So, like I said, I'm always

735
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: a huge believer in gut. You can only go off

736
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: who's recruiting you and if they are recruiting, like how

737
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: much do they pay and what are they telling you?

738
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Because regardless of what they're telling you, like that changes

739
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: once you get there. Unless you're like, I can't miss

740
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: top ten recruit whatever they're telling you is kind of

741
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: a lie. There's no guarantee you will start, there's no

742
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: guarantee you'll play hell, you have to fight for your

743
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: money potentially even with nil. So I think I don't

744
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: think you can ever go wrong playing in the SEC,

745
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: because if you do break into the starting lineup in

746
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: the SEC, you are in a direct path of the

747
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: NFL at Florida or Kentucky, that's for sure. So I

748
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: would say in Indiana's obviously in the Big Ten. I mean,

749
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: these are the best two conferences in the country. So

750
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: playing in that conference at that level, you're closer to

751
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: the NFL than most college football players. It also means

752
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: it's really hard to get on the field because they

753
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: have a bunch of NFL guys that you have to pass.

754
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be difficult no matter where you want

755
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: to go. My advice would be this is it's one

756
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: thing that the coach tells you, we don't want you

757
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: here anymore, so you transfer. I think too many guys

758
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: transfer too fast, like let this settle, like you're gonna

759
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: leave Florida for it's gonna pick a school like Kansas State.

760
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: No shade to Kansas State, impressive program. I'm My point

761
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: is like what if in the year you would have

762
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: been starting at Florida. You know, I think too many

763
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: guys are just too quick to leave because they're not playing.

764
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Like historically, most guys don't play right away. Most guys

765
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: are not like Reggie Bush. You know, It's it's pretty

766
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: difficult to go from high school to Florida and play,

767
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: so it might take a couple of years. If the

768
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: coach wants you, I'd stay. So my advice would be

769
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: go sec. I would have no problem going to Big ten,

770
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: but I would go to Florida over Indiana. If Mike

771
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: tom Wins fired next year, who would the next best

772
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: candidate be. Secondly, I saw your take on Tom Hardy.

773
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: I agree to a degree. However, I highly recommend Peaky Blinders.

774
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I think I said that Tom Hardy was pretty overrated,

775
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: and then I actually retracted that you might have missed

776
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: the podcast because I watched mob Land so the finale

777
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: to go. But he's good in that, he's entertaining. Maybe

778
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I was too harsh on him. He is talented, I do.

779
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I was just trying to go against the grain.

780
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: To go against the grain, I thought the move would

781
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: have been this year trade by Tomlin and go get

782
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. It was handed there on a silver platter.

783
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't have the answer for

784
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: you or even Mike Vrabel, but they didn't want to

785
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: do that. So the Tomlin fired conversation. Unless they have

786
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: like a historically bad season, I'm just done talking about

787
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna fire him. He's gonna be their

788
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: coach forever, maybe until he's like eighty. At this rate,

789
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: the NFC's North feels wide open. The Vikings have a

790
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback known more for handing off. Detroit lost both

791
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: as coordinators. Could we see an Eagles style fall off.

792
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: The Packers have had a twenty five year old quarterback,

793
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: but we still don't really know if he's the guy.

794
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: And with the brutal schedule ahead the whole division, I'm

795
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: curious who do you think regresses the most. I was

796
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: actually thinking about this the other day. The division's obviously

797
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: very talented. I mean, the rosters are stacked, the teams

798
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: are a lot of talent, but sneaky's some question marks

799
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: for a really like there are way less question marks

800
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: with like the one thing you know is if Joe

801
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: Burrow is your quarterback, if the coach can just start

802
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a little faster, they're gonna win ten games. And obviously

803
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens are pretty dominant team, and the Steelers they

804
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: got some issues. But if Aaron Rodgers are quarterback, they're

805
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: probably just gonna be floating around at nine ish wins. Right,

806
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: someone has to lose in the NFC North, Right, Not

807
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: everyone can win ten to fourteen games. Someone's gonna have

808
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: like seven or eight wins. The Bears first time head coach,

809
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: and you know a quarterback that has some scars from

810
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: last year, Like you said, the Vikings, the quarterback, we'll

811
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: see is he good enough? I don't know. The Lions

812
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: just lost their center, lost their two coordinators. It's just

813
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: that's a lot, right, I mean, it really is. And

814
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: the Packers, I mean, there's just a pressure on Jordan

815
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: Love like two years ago that last eight games, Like

816
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: is that actually who you are? Or what have we

817
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: got going on? You convinced me that I think it'd

818
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: be a little shocking if the Bears won the division,

819
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: But you could convince me the other three teams won

820
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: the division as of June third, and I'm probably gonna

821
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: pick the Packers but don't feel great about it. But

822
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: you could give me any combination be like Packers Bears

823
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It'd be hard. I mean, it'd be

824
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: pretty crazy if the Lions didn't make the playoffs, even

825
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: how good they were. But I could definitely see them

826
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: take a step back from fifteen wins. If you tell

827
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: me they win ten or eleven, that might be more realistic.

828
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans, specifically, a question on Sam Donald. I'm not

829
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: super high on Donald, but you have to give the

830
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: guy some credit for his play last season, and or

831
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: at least you would think it seems the general consensus

832
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: is that Donald will be below average quarterback this year

833
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: after putting up top ten stats. If we revitalize our

834
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: establish the run mentality, I'm actually inclined to think he's

835
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: in a decent position to succeed. How do you think

836
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: the season plays out? I saw that he like through

837
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: a couple interceptions in practice, And then McDonald had gone

838
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: to do a radio interview at the local radio station

839
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and they asked him like, what are the scenarios in

840
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: which Sam donald could get benched? And Mike was like,

841
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of, I don't want to say lost it, but

842
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: in fairness was like, what are we talking about? This

843
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: is insane? Guys are quarterback. It just shows you, like

844
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: when you bounce around and you and I don't. It

845
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: wasn't his choice, Like the Vikings didn't want him back.

846
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: So there's a difference of like Lebron chooses to his

847
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, and Kevin Durant and all these guys like

848
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: choose to be mercenaries, and some guys like Kirk Cousins,

849
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings didn't want him anymore. Sam Darnold, the Vikings

850
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't want him anymore. Like he didn't choose to be

851
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: a mercenary. He just didn't have a choice. But when

852
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: that is your route, whether you choose or you don't choose.

853
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: If things don't go well, it's like you don't have

854
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: the equity with that franchise. So there's pressure. Like this

855
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: team they have been. If you just ask the casual fan, like,

856
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: how did the Seahawks been the last three years? I

857
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: think most people be like, oh, yeah, Pete Carroll got

858
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: fired last year, they missed the playoffs. I think they

859
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: went nine to ninety ten. Like, I'm pretty sure Seattle

860
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: the last three years has had better seasons than people realize.

861
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: I think most people would say that, yeah, like seven

862
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: and ten, so the last three years eight, nine and eight,

863
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: ten and seven. So he's not coming to a team

864
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: that's like, oh, yeah, they've been They've went win like

865
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: five six games. I mean they're averaging a little over

866
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: nine wins the season for the last three years. Think

867
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: about it, how many teams? What would the New York

868
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: Giants and Brian daballdo to be like, yeah, our last

869
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: three seasons, we've won twenty eight games. How about you.

870
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: Obviously you'd rather be the Chiefs or the Ravens or whatever,

871
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: but twenty eight wins in three seasons, Like, not bad?

872
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: Do twenty eight divided by three, it's over nine. I

873
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: mean so, I mean last year you missed the playoffs.

874
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: You win ten games, not bad, but but to me,

875
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: that adds pressure on him, which I have to study.

876
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: The depth chart. You lose DK who had felt like

877
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: they were kind of over cut. Lockett, it's gonna it's

878
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I think they're gonna be solid, but

879
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: that ending does Darnold's season did not go well. I'm

880
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: We're early in the process of making the biggest decision

881
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: of my life Jesus, that being choosing my college major.

882
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I know you're young and it feels that way, but

883
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: I promise you it's not. I'm stuck as I want

884
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: to pursue a career in sports and major in sports management,

885
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: but I have everyone around me, including my family, telling

886
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: me that's not the smart thing to do and that

887
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: the major is pointless. I have already built a small

888
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: following on TikTok, but I'm lost. Is a sports management

889
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: major truly pointless? What do I do? So? I take

890
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: it you're you're not in college. You're trying to get

891
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: to college and you have to apply to different majors,

892
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: or you're already in college and you have a major

893
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: in trying to switch. I would say this. My undergrad

894
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: major at cal Poly was ag business. Let me repeat that,

895
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: ag business. Now, granted it was a essentially a business

896
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: degree because I took a bunch of classes in the

897
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: business department. But I'm pretty sure on my diploma wherever

898
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: that is in the closet, it says from the School

899
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: of Agriculture. And my master's degree at Fresno State when

900
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I was a GA is in sports business. I promise

901
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: you this. Those two pieces of paper and those two

902
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: titles mean absolutely nothing for the course of my career.

903
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: If I'd be sitting here if I was an our

904
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: history major, if I was a business major, it did

905
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: not impact where I got in this world in terms

906
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: of sports. So I would say sports is a field

907
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: unlike being a doctor, a lawyer, an architect, where the

908
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: major is not as important. So if you want to

909
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: pursue a career in sports while you're in college sports management,

910
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on your school. Maybe they have

911
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: some connections, but I truly don't believe it matters. I

912
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: think that you could do. I would say you're better

913
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: off with just a degree. If this is possible have

914
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: a business degree then and pursue something in sports than

915
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: have a sports management degree. I don't think you're any

916
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: more likely to make progress because of the sports business degree. Again,

917
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: depending on the school, maybe there are different examples, but

918
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: I truly believe this that I don't think it matters now.

919
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I also think the people telling you that it's worthless, like,

920
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: are they just coming from a position that they think

921
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: it's a stupid major. The classes I took at Fresno

922
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: State with a graduate degree in quote on sports sports

923
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: management were pretty pointless. Now, that was two thousand and

924
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: eight and two thousand and nine. That was a long

925
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: time ago, So maybe it's changed. But I don't know.

926
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: If you had total power to make changes to the

927
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: NBA to boost popularity, what changes would you put in place?

928
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

929
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't think you can change the load

930
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: management stuff. Clearly there it's pointless to talk about reducing

931
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: the amount of games. I think I heard Winhorse say this,

932
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: and he's right. Basketball is actually much closer to baseball

933
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: than it is football. It's an inventory and a quantity

934
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: sport more than like an impact quality sport on a

935
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: weekly basis, Like they make their huge money because they

936
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: have so many games. And I mean sometimes Maria looked

937
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: at me the other day, I want to turn on

938
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: the Knicks game. She's like, God, the play still playing basketball.

939
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they're not even to the finals yet.

940
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: They stretch out these playoffs for a long time basketball.

941
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: In my experience, and I've been a it's crazy. I

942
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: saw the who put this out. If there was a

943
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: game seven at Madison Square Garden, the going rates for

944
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: different prices, you know, I think to sit on the

945
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: floor was I mean, like, I forget the number, it

946
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: was huge, but even the get in price, the get

947
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: in price was thousands of dollars. This was probably like

948
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. But I remember being in high

949
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: school and it might have been the first could have

950
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: been the second round. Now it was the last row

951
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: at Arcole Arena where the King's played. Me and my

952
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: buddy Egh went to a Mavericks playoff game. Remember we

953
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: got a little little stoned. I think we hit it.

954
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: We brought an apple with us and I don't even

955
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: know if kids need to do that anymore. But back

956
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: in my day, you had to get weed and like

957
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: from a dealer behind a McDonald's or a Burger King.

958
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Now you just press an app and they come to

959
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: your front door and you give them a credit card.

960
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: But we paid twenty dollars a ticket, forty dollars for

961
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: two tickets. Again, times have changed, but basketball is always

962
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: going to be dependent on the stars. It's like this

963
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: combination of it's like football, where it's a team game.

964
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: That's why I always push back when people go the

965
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: league's never been more talented. It's not an individual sport.

966
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Guys the teams, so yeah, they might be more talent

967
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: than the nineties, but you can't convince me that the

968
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: teams in the nineties, I don't know when they played

969
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: together for a decade plus, we're not better. Obviously, you

970
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: change a little bit of your roster. But basketball, a

971
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: lot like football, is very dependent on chemistry. The longer

972
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you play with someone, the better you are. I think

973
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: Stephan Draymond just showed up playing like that together. No,

974
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: they've been playing together for fifteen years. Steph playing Draymond.

975
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: It's a huge advantage for them. And I think you're

976
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: just dependent on the stars. So I think people push

977
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: back of like, Ah, they keep riding Steph Curry and Lebron,

978
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: James All hard to blame them. Those guys are dramatically

979
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: more famous than all these other stars, and there is

980
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: an element. My guy, Ethan Strauss has been writing about

981
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: this for a long time. One thing football does not

982
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: have to battle is all their star players are always

983
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: going to be from America. And really, beside Jordan Mailatta,

984
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: all their star players and high end players, especially at quarterback,

985
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: play college football, and most of them, like even if

986
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: you don't go to a quote unquote true powerhouse like

987
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: Texas Texas power for conference, Josh Allen's a little bit

988
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: of outlier, you know, Lamar Louisville. Joe Burrow played at

989
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: LSU in Ohio State. Baker Mayfield played at Oklahoma. Kyler

990
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Murray played at Oklahoma. Jared Goff played at Cow which

991
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: used to be better than it is now. But you

992
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like these guys play at real schools,

993
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the NBA, Like Honest didn't

994
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: playing college, not from America. Jokis did not play in college,

995
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: not from America. Luca not from America. I mean, it's

996
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: just it's hard. I mean, I grew up the NBA

997
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: couldn't have been much bigger. Michael Jordan is like on

998
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore of superstar athletes. You could say he's

999
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: number one, the most marketable athlete in the history of America.

1000
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: And then that just kind of rolled into Kobe, shack

1001
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: Lebron and Curry. They're just all time marketable athletes. Shay

1002
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: Gillis Alexander is never going to be that. He has

1003
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: no chance to ever be that, zero chance. I honestly

1004
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: feel that the players aren't even nearly as famous as

1005
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: they used to be. I know people always say that

1006
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: like NBA players so much more famous. I feel they're

1007
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: not nearly as famous as like guys. When I was

1008
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: growing up, the star players in the NBA felt like

1009
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: they were bigger culturally, like Charles Barkley, Gary Payton, obviously

1010
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: Bird Magic and Michael, but even the next crew of guys.

1011
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: So I just think, you know, David cern was great

1012
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: at this. I think he's the best commissioner of my

1013
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: life any sport because I think what he had to

1014
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: do is harder than what Roger had to do, and

1015
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: I think Roger. I'd put Roger second, but he understood

1016
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: the power of stars, and I just I don't think

1017
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: that it's not all Adam's fault. I mean, the better

1018
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: players are coming internationally, it's a problem. I mean, if

1019
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg could be a star, it'd be awesome. The

1020
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: WNBA is big not because there's some resurgence in women's basketball.

1021
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: It's because of Caitlin fucking Clark that she's just an

1022
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: all time outlier. And I saw some quotes from the

1023
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: wa NBA commissioner like she won't even embrace him, Like

1024
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm shorting you, I would fire you. If I was

1025
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: Adam and I'm subsidizing that league, I would fire that woman.

1026
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: I would have to replace her because she's not gonna

1027
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: be good enough. You have this opportunity. Who knows how

1028
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: long it's gonna be. We see what caitlin hurt rating

1029
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: started dropping. So you're just only as strong as your stars.

1030
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: And most individual sports, all individual sports are like that, right, Tennis, golf, racing.

1031
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: Team sports can be a little bit different, but basketball

1032
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: is not. Basketball is a team game driven by their

1033
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: individual stars. And right now there two biggest stars in

1034
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: the NBA by a mile or old. So you don't

1035
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have them forever.

1036
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1037
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: Last question, what is your viewing experience? So I don't

1038
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: have a good answer there because I think that the

1039
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: even Luca, who probably has a good chance because with

1040
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: the Lakers, but I just feel like their appeal is

1041
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: just gonna be different than American stars. What is your

1042
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: viewing experience like for guys like you and come and

1043
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: to digest these games for a living on Sundays in

1044
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: the fall? Are you able to have a cocktail and

1045
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: enjoy the games? Is it sobering day at the office

1046
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: or something in between? Bonus questions? Do you use any

1047
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: apps to help track stats gather information than betting apps

1048
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: in ESPN? Yeah, I would say listen, I watched football

1049
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: for a living, so you know, there's a difference of

1050
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: being at the office and working hard or being outside

1051
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: and digging ditches. It is in terms of taxing physically

1052
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: and even emotionally. It ain't that crazy emotionally. Now, if

1053
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: you got a lot of money on a game you're losing,

1054
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: it can ruin your day. But yeah, I mean I

1055
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: take the day pretty seriously. I would say definitely, as

1056
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: I've gotten older in my thirties, like I'm not doing

1057
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: anything on Saturday night, I'm definitely not being hungover. I

1058
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: was hungover once last year because it was my fortieth

1059
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: birthday and it was miserable. It was miserable, and I

1060
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Speaker 1: was like, I can't do this ever again. So I

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Speaker 1: just say Sunday is just I just approach it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I try to get up at like seven or eight,

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Speaker 1: I go to the gym, try to be home, especially

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Speaker 1: you know Arizona's specific standard time, and then he goes

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Speaker 1: to Mountain time. I kind of like the Mountain time

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Speaker 1: because at eleven o'clock first kickoff. But I try to

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Speaker 1: be in my office, dressed, ready to go, cup of

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Speaker 1: coffee and have all my TVs on kickoff ten am,

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Speaker 1: and then dial till I do with Colin after the

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Speaker 1: second games, and then watch the Sunday night game while

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Speaker 1: I have dinner, come into my office in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter and do my own show after that. And obviously

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Speaker 1: Monday Night and Thursday Night football are built around watching

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Speaker 1: the games and doing the podcast as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like anyone, I mean, you just I take this

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Speaker 1: shit seriously. I don't want to lose this. Like I

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Speaker 1: also am not dumb enough to know, like I get

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Speaker 1: to do this for a job, so I'm able to

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Speaker 1: like pay the mortgage, right so it's it's I take

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Speaker 1: this stuff very very seriously. Now there's also like I

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Speaker 1: also talking for a living, so I can't can't just

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Speaker 1: be a stiff about it. But in terms of when

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Speaker 1: I watch it, yeah I can't. I just can't function

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Speaker 1: the end. You guys can relate to this depending on

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Speaker 1: how old you are. As you get older, the hangovers

1086
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: they just get worse and worse. And I just can't

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Speaker 1: have that feeling of because I need my brain to work, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are some jobs, like if I'm just

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Speaker 1: typing in stuff and I don't need my brain to work,

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Speaker 1: I technically could be hungover. But like if I got

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Speaker 1: to do multiple podcasts on a Sunday, I just can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford to be hungover because I can't do

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Speaker 1: that anymore. At forty years old. I was able to

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Speaker 1: pull it off a decade ago, no problem. Actually now

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Speaker 1: it's now it's honestly, I have a couple of drinks

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Speaker 1: now in the next days of work day I kind

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Speaker 1: of like just slows me down enough that I don't

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Speaker 1: like that feeling at all. So I've been in football

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Speaker 1: long enough to I mean, it's all I've ever done

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Speaker 1: in my professional life from college football to pro football

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Speaker 1: to then doing this for a living and going to

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Speaker 1: a lot of games in radio, and then obviously doing

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Speaker 1: podcasts on Sunday. Like, I'm not a big drinker on Sundays,

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Speaker 1: so I've never in my adult life drank on Sundays.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no cocktails really, which, now that I say

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Speaker 1: it out loud, it kind of like sounds kind of sad.

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Speaker 1: So you just got to get your cocktails in on

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Speaker 1: other days. I guess Tito's soda maybe a little splash

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Speaker 1: of line the volume