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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of the official

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Speaker 1: Colts podcast. You're the Colts Audio Network and on the

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Speaker 1: Cult YouTube page. No Jeffrey Gorman this week he is

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Speaker 1: on assignment. On assignment, yes, spending some time because his

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Speaker 1: lovely fiance.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and no warmer climate.

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Speaker 1: Than in a warmer climate than this. I just read

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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder's story on ESPN about frostbite and NFL games.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating by Steve Yeah, like how like this guy went

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs Dolphins game last year and it was

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Speaker 1: you know, like negative twenty seven wins, chills.

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Speaker 2: There were fans that died.

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Speaker 1: No, right, there were no fans that died, well the guys.

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Speaker 3: That were outside of their house or whatever, like that

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Speaker 3: whole thing like all fine and story, Yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: There were reports of fans getting like amputations after going

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Speaker 1: to that game. Like I don't know, I I get

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Speaker 1: why you want, why you would want to go to

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs fans were found frozen to death in

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Speaker 3: the backyard of their Fronts.

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Speaker 2: Home on January ninth.

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Speaker 1: But did they go to the game.

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Speaker 2: They were Chiefs fans, don't. I don't know, but yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like those temperatures are dangerous and also they're coming

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Speaker 1: to Indy Like now, yeah, you couldn't pay me to

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Speaker 1: go to a football game outside when it's below honestly,

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Speaker 1: probably when it's blow freezing you.

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Speaker 2: Feel like that.

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Speaker 3: There are certain like fan bases that are equipped for it,

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Speaker 3: Like Buffalo, they've got the gear, Like you got to

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Speaker 3: figure it out right, because you're shoveling yourself out of

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Speaker 3: like a tundra a number of times. When you're like

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo, like you know, you gotta have like the

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Speaker 3: like electric gloves, the electric like underlayer type of things.

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Speaker 1: I thought in this article like people brought like pieces

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you think about how if you were in

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Speaker 3: a stadium that has those aluminum benches, which not necessarily

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Speaker 3: a ton of like NFL stadiums really do. Buffalo, I

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Speaker 3: was gonna say, doesn't Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I think think about how cold those would be, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like I'm from Chicago. Yeah, I'm supposed to

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Speaker 1: be like tough and uh, cold weather, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I learned growing up in

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Speaker 1: Chicago that I don't like cold well, that's why you're

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Speaker 1: in a press box exactly. That's why I love working

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Speaker 1: for the Colts. Where we got an indoor stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can open the roof if we want, but when

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Speaker 1: it's freezing cold out or snowing, it is beautiful seventy

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Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of when I was watching the Bills game,

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Speaker 3: Dan and I, my husband and I were talking and

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Speaker 3: you could see the stadium, the new stadium being built

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Speaker 3: not far from Heimark Stadium. Is the new stadium in

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Speaker 3: Buffalo going to have a roof or is.

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Speaker 1: It no melldoors?

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Speaker 1: Which I like, I do like the teams that lean

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Speaker 1: like Buffalo and Green Bay, because I mean that's like

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Speaker 1: a thing in Buffalo. Right, Like we all remember that

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Speaker 1: snow game the Colts played where you can't see anything.

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Speaker 2: Is the reason Lambeau is the frozen tundra, right, and.

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Speaker 1: Of Vinitarry should be a first ballot Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: based on making a kick in that game. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: that was insane. But no, I mean, Colts fans are

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Speaker 1: You can go support your team and you don't have

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Speaker 2: So did he ride in the car in something else

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Speaker 2: and then add the.

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Speaker 1: Layers, and then they added the layers when he got

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Speaker 1: to the stadium. Okay, but like you don't have to

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Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, you just show up.

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Speaker 2: I remember cross country meets.

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Speaker 3: It was one one morning we woke up for the

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Speaker 3: in late November, it was six degrees six So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Does that make you run faster?

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Speaker 3: Or well, I mean me or most people or I

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Speaker 3: eyes were watering, because I mean, just like hurts, like

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Speaker 3: Your eyes were watering, and my tears were frozen to

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Speaker 3: Simultaneously sweating but also had frozen frozen deers. I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fortunately again we don't have to deal with that.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of great writing though this week shout out, I

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Speaker 3: was telling you about this, I believe Jordan Rodrigue and

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Speaker 3: her article on the La RAMS organization and the response

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Speaker 3: with the fires in LA and all of that phenomenal work.

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Speaker 3: As always if you're kind of just perusing and you know,

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Speaker 3: reading some different articles regarding like playoff teams, especially when

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Speaker 3: you see what LA did on Monday night, How did

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Speaker 3: their minds? Right? When you see how motivated they were,

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Speaker 1: And what do you think tug boat would do on

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Speaker 1: a plane. We're going to get to some cult stuff.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? I have absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 1: Doug is a horse.

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Speaker 3: He's an English mastiff that one hundred and forty found

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Speaker 2: He's very much like he's a velcrow dog.

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Speaker 1: So before we talk about we're going to get into

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's press conference that he had on Friday. We

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Speaker 1: We've seen this a couple of times, like where you know,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had a real tough game against Houston right

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Speaker 1: In Week fifteen, he went twenty nine to forty with

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Speaker 1: Houston defense is really good, yeah, and I think we

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Speaker 1: their offense maybe not reaching expectations that defense. If they

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Speaker 2: All of that. I think it's kind of too.

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Speaker 2: And then I also think it goes to having.

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Speaker 3: Playoff experience for a team and what they were able

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Speaker 3: you when you endure a degree of adversity over the

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Speaker 3: course of the season. And I think the Rams are

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Speaker 3: one and four. Again, they're a team that has been

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Speaker 1: No money on defense this year, and their defense was

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Speaker 1: awesome on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Nine sacks, yeah, nine.

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Speaker 1: They I heard this. They spent that and everyone.

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Speaker 3: Thought everyone thought it was going to be the Vikings

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Speaker 3: defense and the Fine Florence and all that, but.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, they spent They spent the least amount of cap

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Speaker 1: this year, and they went out and they just did

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Speaker 1: that to the Vikings nine points.

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Speaker 3: I should have had this. I wasn't wasn't prepared to

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to look now now I'm jumping ahead.

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Speaker 1: they're just there wasn't enough, maybe friction in the locker room. Yeah,

437
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: And I think that then played out to you saw

438
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: a season where you lost these devastating games to Houston,

439
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: to uh Denver, to the New York Giants. That maybe

440
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: that that all sort of got connected a little bit here.

441
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: What did you kind of digest from this quote?

442
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: Looking at this.

443
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 3: The Colts started the twenty twenty four season with a

444
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: league high eighty one point seven percent of the same

445
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: players from twenty twenty three eighty one point.

446
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think think about the guys who weren't back.

447
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: It was Zach Moss, it was Garnments, and those are

448
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: two guys who were backups. Really they'd play elevated roles,

449
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: but they were brought in to be backups.

450
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: Right, And it was a team that finished nine to

451
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: eighth and just missed, you know, obviously getting into the

452
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. And it is worth noting, like Samson

453
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: Ebcom was your highest sack leader, because I got, yeah, like,

454
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: that's that's a significant loss for you obviously that I

455
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: think a lot of people probably didn't realize the significance

456
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 3: of it when it happened.

457
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: Probably it's it's.

458
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: At the start of training camp and it's almost like

459
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: he's out of sight, out of mind by the time

460
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: the season start.

461
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 3: I think that there is a way, I think you

462
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: can retain guys but also create competition. I think that

463
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: what you have to do is challenge the guys that, yes,

464
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: we brought you back but that does not mean that

465
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: you can continue to deliver the exact same number year

466
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 3: in year out, have the exact same contribution. And just

467
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: you know we're talking about being linear, yeah, right, Like

468
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: you still need to you still need to progress off

469
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: of that. So I think to me, there you can.

470
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: You can bring guys back and create competition. I think

471
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: you can to some way do both. But what you

472
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: have to do is create competition. It's insignificant areas. And

473
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: I think you know, in an area like wide receiver,

474
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: you did that and you saw the results with the

475
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: year that Alek Peirce had.

476
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: I think maybe had.

477
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: You created a little bit more competition, say in the secondary,

478
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: maybe what would could that have possibly done, you know

479
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: for a group like that. Right, Just so I'm just

480
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: kind of pointing out those are particular. Those are high

481
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: impact areas of football, right when you look at you know,

482
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: key players, premium players, and premium positions.

483
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: Right.

484
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: I will say though the other two, like as I

485
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: was thinking about this is like the spots that were

486
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: the competitions during training camp. Right, it was wide receiver,

487
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: it was Alec Pearson ad and I Mitchell, it was safety.

488
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: We didn't what the cults are going to do it safety,

489
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: and it was you know, where's Nick Cross going to play?

490
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Is he going to play? And then it was cornerback

491
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: with Jalen Jones, Juju Brentz and Dallas Flowers. I think

492
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: you can make a case that Alec Pierce, Nick Cross,

493
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: and Jalen Jones all showed the most growth from twenty

494
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty twenty four of any players on

495
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: this team. Because they're in that competition now, the secondary

496
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: absolutely has to be better. Maybe you know, those guys

497
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: individually grew, but I think in terms of that group

498
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: playing as a unit, maybe there was still a little

499
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: left to be desired there. But I think you go

500
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: into next year now feeling like, hey, we got some

501
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: real players in those guys. But just because you feel

502
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: like that does not mean, Lara, you cut off avenues

503
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: to competition, right.

504
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: And I also think too that when you bring guys back,

505
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: I think that it also has to be a hey,

506
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 3: this is why we're bringing you back, but this is

507
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: also how we expect you to raise the bar from here.

508
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: I'm curious as to what was the clear command to

509
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: each of those guys when you brought them back, because

510
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: when you talk about these are veterans, these are leaders

511
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: within the franchise. What were they doing to make their

512
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: position groups better? What challenge was placed upon them to

513
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: make their position groups better? Because you think when you

514
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: get to a certain point, and it's not gonna be

515
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: the same for every position.

516
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: But I'm going to kind of point to like, ye're.

517
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: Four, you're an upperclassman so to speak. Right, so if

518
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: you're a guy who's been in this building for three

519
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: and four years, you should probably have a pretty significant

520
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: role in terms of elevating the rest of the guys

521
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: around you.

522
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: The other part of this is competition doesn't always look

523
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: like you're splitting training camp reps and oh this is

524
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: this like you know, everyone's writing about it every day

525
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: what you did in practice, kind of like we did

526
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: with ad Nai Mitchell and Alec Pierce. But competition can

527
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: just be that that uncomfortable, you know, sense of like, Okay,

528
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: they brought this guy in, I'm still the starter, but

529
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: I've got to raise my game because this guy we

530
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: brought in is pushing and he's going to push for that.

531
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: He might be getting getting those reps with the twos,

532
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: but you just kind of have that It's like that

533
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: friction again that Ballard talked about, and just the fact.

534
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: That you didn't get it done.

535
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 3: You're still a team that missed the playoffs like that

536
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: should motivate you like more than anything.

537
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: Just kind of what Chris Ballard thought would happen and

538
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: it didn't, which is and he took. Look, he took

539
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: a lot of accountability in that press conference. He put

540
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: everything on his own decisions in building this roster. I

541
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: do think sometimes though, it's got to come from the players,

542
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Like you can't be in the locker room all the time.

543
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: It's got to kind of come from the bottom up.

544
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: Well, and your role is someone in bringing the players in,

545
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: vetting the players who are brought in, brought back, resigned,

546
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: all of that, and then there is a caliber two.

547
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: Where is the development with those players once they are here?

548
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: And I think that is the piece that we will

549
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: really see honed in on over the next six months,

550
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: is the pieces that you're bringing back. You know, when

551
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: you do you know the guys who whether it's you know,

552
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: free agency, you know, different situations, guys who you're exploring

553
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: from outside, bringing in draft all of that. Now, what

554
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: are these specific plans for each of these groups?

555
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Moving forward, not just making sure.

556
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: You've got the guys who you want and who you

557
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: feel like are a good fit.

558
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: But once they get here, what are they do it?

559
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: Right?

560
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the quarterback. Here is a

561
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: bite from Chris Ballard talking about Anthony Richardson, and the

562
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: question was, just what after two years tells you that

563
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: he's the guy he's always.

564
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Comes down in this quarterback?

565
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: What after two years tells you that he's the guy? Well, look,

566
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think we can completely stamp it.

567
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 4: We've seen some good things. I mean we knew. Look,

568
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: I like Anthony, and Anthony's done some really good things,

569
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: all right, but there's there's been some potholes too. I

570
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 4: think the number one thing, I mean, let me let

571
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: me track back a little bit here. We knew when

572
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: we took him it was going to be a roller coaster.

573
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: I don't think I did a very good job. I

574
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: think I explained that it's going to take some time.

575
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: But look, I got excited too about the talent and

576
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: the wild plays. But now we need to consistency down

577
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: after down. But the number one thing we have to

578
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: figure out and what Anthony's got to work through is

579
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: staying healthy. You've got to stay He's got to be

580
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 4: able to stay healthy, and that that to me, is

581
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: the is probably the biggest question right now because now

582
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: we're going on two seasons in a row. You know

583
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: where he's he's dealt with injuries, So that's the first thing.

584
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: And then number two, you know, being consistent, getting consistent,

585
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: you know, down after down, play after play, consistency with him,

586
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: and that just takes that takes time. I think the

587
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: one thing you can see with all look, we have

588
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: zero patients as a league with quarterbacks. I mean you're

589
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: seeing it throughout the league where guys fail one place

590
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden they're doing really well

591
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: somewhere else. You know, every quarterback's journey and developmental cycle

592
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: is different. I wish I had a magic wand that

593
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: could wave it and get them to the top of

594
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: the peak right away, but that's not realistic. The good

595
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: news is even with the back, which we think will

596
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: be fine, he's going to go into the offseason healthy

597
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: all right, which last season he didn't. He was rehabbing

598
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: a lot. So that's going to give him a chance

599
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: to work on some things going forward that we think

600
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: will help going in the next season now saying all that, like,

601
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: we can't beat our head against the wall. We've got

602
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: to have competition at the position, just for the one

603
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: for the fact that competition makes everybody better, and then

604
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: two he's not proving in play seventeen games.

605
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: All right, So, Lara, we're talking about competition and elevating players,

606
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: elevating their game based on competition.

607
00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: Yep.

608
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: It sounds like and this is not a guarantee that

609
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna play out this way. It sounds like the

610
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Colts are going to very much consider and very may

611
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: may do this bringing in a quarterback who can compete

612
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: directly with Anthony Richardson in twenty twenty five. How do

613
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: you think that would go? And I think the biggest

614
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: question I have about this is the Colt's best case

615
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: outcome still that Anthony Richardson improves from year two to

616
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: year three. He is your starter in twenty twenty five

617
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: and he he grabs hold of that job after a competition.

618
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. That's the boat. Are you there too?

619
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

620
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, that's right.

621
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: As I was like digesting the squat, I was like,

622
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's The goal of it is not

623
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: to have the guy you bring in to compete necessarily start.

624
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: If he needs to and he wins it, that's great.

625
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: But the best case is Anthony Richardson's like, Okay, here

626
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: we go, year three, I'm taking my game to another level,

627
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: and if I don't, I'm not going to be the starter.

628
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: Because hands down, Anthony Richardson has still made some of

629
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: the most jaw dropping plays we have seen in the

630
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: last year, right, yeah, I mean we still have not

631
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: seen the ceiling. We have seen the flashes of greatness

632
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: in the passing game, you know, as a running quarterback,

633
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: you know, shredding guys off of his body two and

634
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: three defenders to elude sacks. There is a level of

635
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: athleticism and physicality that is unlike I'll say it, any

636
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: other quarterback in the leak around.

637
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I mean, he's the the

638
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: stuff he can do in terms of his pocket mobility,

639
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: his pocket presence, the arm talent, like you mentioned Lair,

640
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: the running talent. There is a lot that still can

641
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: be harnessed there. But it's going to take a lot

642
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: for that to happen. It's going to take the it's

643
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: going to take Anthony on his own making those stripes.

644
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna take everything. I think this is

645
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: where you know you you have you ever been in

646
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: the point where like you're searching for something in your

647
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: house and you're like, specifically, I need this one item,

648
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: I need this one item, right, and you're like, I

649
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: think it's in the basement and you're digging through and

650
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: you're opening up like every box, every storage bind You're like,

651
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: you know what it might be in the top shelf

652
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: of that closet. Let me go up there, and you

653
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: go and you explore that, and then you make your

654
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: way up to the ceiling, right, and at one point

655
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: you've kind of earned the ceiling the attic excuse me,

656
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: which is kind of the ceiling. But you're exploring all

657
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: levels to figure out what it is. You are leaving

658
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: no stone unturned. This is what your off season has

659
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: to be for Anthony Richardson. You pull out every tool,

660
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: You explore every nook and cranny that it is in

661
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: the structure of Anthony Richardson.

662
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: You bring in competition. You know, you do what you

663
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: have to.

664
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: You know, as a coaching staff, you you know from

665
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: a standpoint of you know the rest of the offense,

666
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: maybe you know, working together doing all all of these things.

667
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: Whatever you have to do or whatever you feel like

668
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: is at your disposal to see you make sure that

669
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: you are tapping every bit of potential and equipping him

670
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: to see what he can do in terms of, you know,

671
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: not only playing with consistency, but also consistently being on

672
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: the field, because that's one thing that Chris said he

673
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: hasn't proven he can play seventeen games.

674
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: I think you know, to me, I just want to.

675
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: See the consistency across you know, being able to make

676
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: the intermediate throws right, all of that, you know, being

677
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: more consistent in the passing game, all of that. Because

678
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: completion percentage, of course, is a concern based.

679
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: On forty seven. Whatever reasons there were for that, the throwaways,

680
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: the drops, whatever, you cannot live as an offense in

681
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: that number.

682
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm saying you go through every level of

683
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: the house to explore and you know, put everything in

684
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: place to see.

685
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: And to feel like too.

686
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: I think that you know, you've got to show him

687
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: we're giving you, We're here to help put you in

688
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: a position to succeed as well. And that's also the

689
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: investment that we're gonna expect out of you, right.

690
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I think expectation wise, I don't think you're expecting him

691
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: to become Josh Allen immediately, right.

692
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: Like Josh Allen wasn't Josh Allen me right.

693
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: It took him a while. But I think like that

694
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: growth from year two to year three that you would

695
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: want to see, I think you hit it on the head, Leira.

696
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: It starts with him playing in seventeen games MM, being

697
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: as available as he possibly can and showing that because

698
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: I do think if he does, if he is consistently

699
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: out there and we don't have this kind of start

700
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: and stop nature of his season where you know he

701
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: like last year he came back off the shoulder injury,

702
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: he played in four games and he got hurt. Then

703
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: he comes back for two games and he gets benched,

704
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: and then he comes back for five games and he

705
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: gets hurt. If you can get some sort of consistent hey,

706
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: he played for three straight months, I do think that

707
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: will lead to natural improvement as he gets more experience

708
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: and more reps. But that's why it's got to start

709
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: with him staying healthy.

710
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: And to me, one of the biggest factors in that

711
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: is the fact one of the things we learned that

712
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem you know, we talked about this briefly

713
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 3: last week. Doesn't seem that this back injury or back

714
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: issue that he was battling is going to cause any

715
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: sort of a procedure or any of that. That's something

716
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: you can do some rehab through. And Chris pointed too,

717
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: he's coming out of the season healthy. It's different for

718
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: him going into twenty twenty five than it was a

719
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: year ago.

720
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: He was still rehabbing this shoulder.

721
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Right, He wasn't throwing until late February or March maybe

722
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: whenever that was, and he don't even then.

723
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: You know, the throwing is different when you you still

724
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: might have in the back of your head the shoulder, right.

725
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: It'll that's a different thing. Where he can go down

726
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and start working whenever he can be up here,

727
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: and you know, work whenever. It's not showing up for

728
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: rehabits not getting cleared. If it's it is all about

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: his play on the field, and that is I think

730
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: that is a huge point and something that we do

731
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: need to consider and give him a little bit of

732
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: grace for, is that the timeline he has been through

733
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: in his career is difficult. Like it's one thing to

734
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: sit as a rookie. It's another thing to sit as

735
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: a rookie because you're hurt. Yeah you're you're not as

736
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: It's different, like everyone will tell you later, it's different

737
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: when that's the case.

738
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: And in regards to the competition factor itself, I mean,

739
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: I know it was relatively you know, narrow amount of time,

740
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: so to speak. But when he was competing with Gardner

741
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 3: Minshew prior to being named the starter.

742
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: He handled that really well.

743
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that he he did thrive in that.

744
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: And I do think too he learned a lot alongside.

745
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, swapping snaps with Gardner, rotating

746
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: those first team reps with him, I do think that,

747
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: And you know we're talking that's a difference. That's being

748
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: a rookie draft versus being you know, two years into

749
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: the league all of that. But still, I think when

750
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: you look to Anthony, you're like, Okay, no, this is

751
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: the guy who can thrive in these situations, who will

752
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: adapt to this and handle this positively from what we

753
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: gathered at that point, right.

754
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: And the last thing on this is there are a

755
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: number of avenues you can go about to add this competition.

756
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: You could go through free agency, you could explore trade,

757
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: you could go through the draft, you could you could

758
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: find a different way to do this. I think what's

759
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: going to be interesting over the next couple of weeks is,

760
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, we think about looking ahead to the Combine

761
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: and Okay, that's the next time we're going to hear

762
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: from Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen about this. You know

763
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: they're not going to tip their hand like you know

764
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: they go into the combine and say, yeah, we would

765
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: love to sign a veteran quarterback and it falls through, Well,

766
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: then you know what happened, right. You're not going to

767
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: get that until it happens. And I think what what

768
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: will be interesting is what Anthony feels about that kind

769
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: of in the moment. And I think we got to

770
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: peek into that on locker cleanout day when he was

771
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: asked would you welcome a competition and he said absolutely,

772
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: I am a natural competitor. If that's the direction they take,

773
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. If they don't go that way,

774
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: I'll still compete, I'm all for it. So I think he,

775
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Lara, I think he thrives in those

776
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: moments I think he is mentally prepared for it, and

777
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: that would inform you that maybe bringing someone in who

778
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: could take his spot would be a benefit to Anthony,

779
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to the Colts. And look, if if Anthony isn't able

780
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: to do it, then you've got a guy who hopefully

781
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: will have earned it, who can step right in there.

782
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: So that's going to be interesting. Now, speaking of free agency,

783
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: let's go to the next bite from the press conference,

784
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: which was about free agency. Here you go.

785
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: To bring in different.

786
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: Last year, we didn't completely abstain from free agency, and

787
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: we've actually done things in the past. So I just

788
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 4: think we have to be more. We have to do

789
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 4: a better job identifying the free agents that we want

790
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: to sign and then being able to close to close

791
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: the deal on them. And that's up to me, it

792
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: really is. It's not mister say, He'll let me do

793
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: what I need to do and my staff we have

794
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: to be able to do that. Chris, watching this and

795
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: saying this general tone, you kind of fall on the

796
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: sword of that we've seen that we've heard or why

797
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: with this fee. I'm hardheaded and stubborn, and I think

798
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: y'all know me what. Look, I don't I don't sit

799
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: and blame others. It's just not now. Internally we have

800
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: some discussions, but I just don't think it's productive for

801
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 4: me to sit up here and just freaking go scort

802
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: earth and act. Look, I'm the one in charge of football.

803
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: I'm the one that deserves to be blamed. But also

804
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: I've learned some very hard lessons with my stubbornness of trying.

805
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 4: I had a vision of building something, and it needed

806
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: to be a vision of building that could actually win

807
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: and keep competition going in that locker room. And that

808
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: is where I fell short. It is kicked myself for

809
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: taking a couple of years to be so dag. I'm stubborn. No,

810
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: And when you look at like if you look back

811
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: at our good seasons like twenty I mean we trade

812
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: for Buckner, we had Philip rivers twenty one, I mean

813
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: even like it sucked out twenty one into twenty one,

814
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: we were a good football team. Like I know some

815
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: of y'all would disagree. You don't go beat four or

816
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: five playoff teams. We just we faltered at the end

817
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: for some reasons. But we had we had made some

818
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 4: moves in we'd signed justin you like we had signed

819
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: the right people, and then I just got, for whatever

820
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: reason in my thick head, you know what we're gonna

821
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 4: We're gonna really double down on our own guys.

822
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: All right, Lara, Does this signify that the Cults are

823
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: going to radically change their approach to roster building this

824
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: offseason or or hear me out?

825
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

826
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: Could it be a return to more of what we

827
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: saw out of the Colts and Ballard from twenty eighteen

828
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, right where you bring in Denico Autry,

829
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: you trade for DeForest Buckner. Even in twenty twenty three

830
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about for using free agency. The Colts in

831
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three went out and got Samson ebacom mm

832
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: hm on a. You know. It wasn't like they splashed

833
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: around a ton of cash for it, but it was

834
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: a good contract. It was a and that worked out

835
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: where you brought him.

836
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: In Matt Gay as well, Right.

837
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Matt Gay was the Gardner Minshew was part of that

838
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: class too, But I think Samson specifically was you used

839
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: free agency to target a player who you thought in

840
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: some upside, and Samson never had more than I think

841
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: five sacks in the season. He had nine and a

842
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: half in twenty twenty three. That right there, that was

843
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: a successful free agent signing, regardless of whether you know

844
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Obviously he doesn't play in twenty twenty four.

845
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: But those are the kind of moves that I think

846
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: really do elevate the rest of your team. When you

847
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: bring in a guy, you have a vision for him,

848
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: and then he maybe even exceeds what you thought he

849
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: could do.

850
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: I like the idea of looking back at that plan,

851
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: that eighteen to twenty one stretch and looking at what

852
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: you did, and looking at what you did well, and

853
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: then also looking at maybe what you lacked in that.

854
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: I think that there is a degree of looking to

855
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: elements to the formula that have.

856
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: Been beneficial for you.

857
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: The trade for DeForest Buckner being one of the bigger

858
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: swings that we have seen, and how well that has

859
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: delivered for you.

860
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: I think that.

861
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: It's not going to be I think a drastic you

862
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: know this, you know we're going to do every flip

863
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: everything completely upside down. But I do think you have

864
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: to approach it more aggressively than you have in the past,

865
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: because you have the results haven't been there, right, You

866
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: haven't won the division, you haven't gotten the playoffs since

867
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and you've failed to close out the biggest

868
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: games of your season. You didn't win the games you

869
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: should have, and you couldn't win the games that you

870
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: had to. And I think that is worth addressing because

871
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: there are clearly some voids within what is there currently,

872
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: So what are you doing to you know, fill those

873
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: and you know, elevate the rest of it? So yeah,

874
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean I think that you kind of I think

875
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to go out and be more aggressive

876
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: and maybe take a few more risks, so to speak,

877
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: because you at least have to say, you know, we've

878
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: done this, We've made some moves, we're shaking up, we're

879
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: challenging ourselves. And to Chris Ballard's credit, he said, I've

880
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: been stubborn and he realizes and I think that comes

881
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: with an immense amount of growth. You know, as a leader,

882
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: when you want to you know, be steady and kind

883
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: of believe in a process and commit to a process,

884
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: and you know, have a way you go about things

885
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: that works to a certain degree. But then you have

886
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: you also have to you know, reevaluate that and see

887
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: where it's gotten you and think about, you know, where

888
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: are those areas in which that plan didn't get you

889
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: to the ultimate goal, didn't find you to where you

890
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: need to get to. So I think that there's a

891
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: balance between it. But I do think that you're going

892
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: to have to be more aggressive than we've probably ever seen.

893
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, like you mentioned, the taking risks

894
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: part operating in the in free agency is a risk.

895
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: You're taking a player from another team, another system and

896
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: putting him into your own program, which doesn't always work.

897
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: Just because you spend the most money doesn't always mean

898
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: it's going to work, but sometimes it does.

899
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: I'd also say the guys who you've had in your

900
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: building for five years that you know almost about that

901
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: also doesn't always work, right, you know what I mean?

902
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Committing to spend any money in the NFL as a risk,

903
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: right at some point you have to be targeted with it.

904
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I look back in twenty twenty where the Colts that offseason.

905
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: You know, you trade for Devores Buckner. That's a hit.

906
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: You signed Philip Rivers, that's a hit. You signed Xavier Rhoads,

907
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: that was a hit. It's not like Xavier Rhodes was

908
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: a pro bowler, but he was a good veteran corner

909
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: who you're able to drop into that team. Yeah, and

910
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: he made the Colts a better football team. Ye like

911
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, and not all of them are going to

912
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: work out, you have You know, Devin Funcius in twenty

913
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: nineteen didn't really work out, Yeah, right, Carson Wentz in

914
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one didn't work out.

915
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Hey, Eric he Brunn in eighteen worked out for right,

916
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: So right, yeah.

917
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: That was eighteen. You're er key brunt like you can

918
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: find these guys. That doesn't mean you have to go sign.

919
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour in twenty two worked out.

920
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: On Gilmore Right, you know that the team wasn't very good,

921
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: but Gilly had a good season. Absolutely, there are avenues

922
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: to doing this. That isn't just you go out and

923
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: you spend the most cash of any team in free agency.

924
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: But it's about being targeted and bringing in those guys

925
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: like a Samson Ebicom. I think who will come in

926
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: and elevate the rest of your team, Who will bring competition,

927
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: who will make guys a little uncomfortable?

928
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean you got come just looking at some of

929
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: the playoff teams.

930
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the Ravens going and getting Derrick

931
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Henry the Ravens were already a playoff team, and then

932
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: they went and they go you know, Derek.

933
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: Kenry wasn't the priciest free agent this season.

934
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just kind of like bouncing around, you know,

935
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: looking at a few of these. You know, the Lions,

936
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: a lot of what they've done has been through the draft,

937
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: aside from the trade for you know, Jared Goff.

938
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: But you know, and look at look at what they

939
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: did where I mean this is this probably isn't the

940
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: best example, but they signed David Montgomery and they draft

941
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs. Yeah, you know, you can. You can go

942
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: about it that way, where you sign a player, but

943
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't cut you off to drafting a player. And

944
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean the Colts have done this in years past too,

945
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: where you sign, you know, the last year you re

946
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: signed Taekwon Lewis, that doesn't cut you off from drafting

947
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Layatu Latu. That's the right way to approach it. But

948
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I do think if you you go sign these external

949
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: free agents and you draft someone there, that does create

950
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of maybe good friction. Absolutely. You know,

951
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: look at Minnesota, they went out, they let Denil Hunter

952
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: go last year in free agency. He went to the Texans,

953
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: they went out and they replaced him with Jonathan Garnard,

954
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: also from the Texans. Kind of a weird little slap

955
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: swap there, but Jonathan Garnard had a great year there,

956
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: and you're kind of changing things up in the building

957
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know if that this is like, again,

958
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: the only thing, the only reason why Minnesota was so good. Yeah,

959
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: but there are examples here where you know, you don't

960
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: have to be the Raiders going out and signed in

961
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins. You don't have to be the Titans going

962
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: out inside in Calvin Ridley. But you just find these

963
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: guys who make your team incrementally better in free agency

964
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: and that can then have an impact on the entire roster.

965
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: Yep, it's really really well said.

966
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's look at one last thing. This is

967
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: about the defensive coordinator search the Colts are currently going through.

968
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Here's what Chris Ballard had to say about that on

969
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: Friday last year.

970
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: Defense Leo here he took the blame for it.

971
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: Yep, gone, you're still here.

972
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: Yep. Uh.

973
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: It's look that falls on all of us and I

974
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: and no doubt, look, I bet on some young players

975
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: coming through. Uh. You know, Juju gets hurt. Uh. You

976
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: know Dallas was coming off his injury, and at the

977
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: end of the day, I did not give them enough.

978
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 4: And we've got to in totality, have to do better

979
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 4: defensively from a player acquisition standpoint and from a play standpoint, you.

980
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: Expect the scheme or desistant to change. You've always been

981
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: a fan of the you know, four man front.

982
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: Well, look, most of them, be honest with you, Most

983
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: like a lot of the league, because there's such a

984
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: heavy Nickel league ends up being a four man front.

985
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: Now you'll see some out of Nickel getting into five

986
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 4: man stuff. But Shane and I are working through that.

987
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: We'll well and look, I'm not going to comment on

988
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: the coordinator of Shane's going to make the higher up.

989
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: Of course I'll be involved, but we're working through that.

990
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: We'll interview, we'll have some good candidates for the job.

991
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: So any value to being more aggressive on defense, because

992
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: you have been one.

993
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: Very specific style for I definitely think there is value.

994
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: You got to be able to affect a quarterback.

995
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: You do all right.

996
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: One other bite that I didn't include in here, Learra

997
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: was Chris Ballard said he thought the defensive line played

998
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: pretty well last year, so there are a lot of

999
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: reasons why the Colts were not able to get pressure.

1000
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Then that maybe weren't just the d line underperforming. That's

1001
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: not how he viewed it, but the Colts were a

1002
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: bottom I think five or six team in pressure rate.

1003
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: There are you know, you can get six man protections,

1004
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: you can get teams getting the ball out quick because

1005
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to be affected by that. But the

1006
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: Colts have to find a way to affect opposing quarterbacks

1007
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: more frequently. However it looks, do you think, whoever the

1008
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: next coordinator, is there a lot of games floating out

1009
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: there in reports of who the cults are talking.

1010
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: To you, A lot of jobs out there to be filled.

1011
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: A lot of jobs out there to be filled. This

1012
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a I think this might

1013
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: be a longer process than we've maybe are accustomed to

1014
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: with coordinator hirings. But whoever that person may be, do

1015
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: you think it's just going to be like it generally

1016
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: a more aggressive approach than what Gus Bradley did, which

1017
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: is he wanted to have four guys went up front

1018
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna play coverage with seven behind it? And

1019
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: very sparingly sprinkle in blitzes.

1020
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: I think when you look across the league, that's kind

1021
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: of for the most part, that's the trend that you're seeing.

1022
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: So I do think that just in all likelihood, yes,

1023
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: I think that. Now.

1024
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to hire a coordinator on

1025
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: scheme alone and be like, well.

1026
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Because we did this, we have to go this direction.

1027
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that's I do think that as you

1028
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: see the evolution of scheme and defensive approach, you are

1029
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: seeing a lot more of that. Especially you know when

1030
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: you look at, Hey, the team that are in the playoffs,

1031
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 3: the teams that have gotten there, do have a little

1032
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: bit more of that, you know, attacking type of a front.

1033
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: So I think, in all likelihood, yeah, that's probably gonna

1034
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: be something that you look too. From that standpoint as well,

1035
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: I think it plays to the strength of you've wanted to.

1036
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: Build your roster through the trenches. You've invested in your

1037
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: defensive front.

1038
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: So I think it's like, hey, let's bring in a

1039
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: guy who can get the most out of these guys

1040
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: up front who we've invested draft picks in. We invested

1041
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: a trade for Divorce Buckner, and we invested bringing you know,

1042
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: certain guys back all of that. I mean, if you

1043
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: look at you know, the amount of investment there, Like,

1044
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: I think that you would like to see what someone

1045
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: with that type of a scheme would do with the

1046
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: personnel they will inherit when you think about you know,

1047
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: obviously Grovenbuck in the middle, you've got quity, You've got

1048
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: a lot to you have Taekwon like I mean, just

1049
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: you know, you're going to have kind of a wealth

1050
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: with which has been ambested there at Samson.

1051
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: Coming back great point. I think it'd be interesting to see.

1052
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the majority of your sacks are going

1053
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: to come from the D line. It probably like ninety percent.

1054
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that, you know, accurately off the top

1055
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: of my head, but adding in ways to help the

1056
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: defensive line out where it's not just okay, you can't

1057
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: get the ball out quick against us because we're playing

1058
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: maybe different coverages or you know, I think I think

1059
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: the other part of this too is like it doesn't

1060
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: have to necessarily necessarily be a guy who's got like

1061
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: a big D line background, because you can help the

1062
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: D line.

1063
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: Out with the sisguises and yeah, right.

1064
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: Disguises, making the quarterback hitch for a second. Yeah, too

1065
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: many times we saw opposing quarterbacks just be able to

1066
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: complete these easy access throws to a tight end or

1067
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that's open and it did you know

1068
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: Layatu Latu would win on a pass rush on a

1069
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: one on one, but by the time he got around

1070
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: the tackle, the ball was already in the hands of

1071
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: a guy going eight nine yards downfield. That stuff needs

1072
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: to be having flashed to the Giants game, right or

1073
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots game was one. I mean Hunter Henry had

1074
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, it just felt like out almost every play.

1075
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: The other part of this too, and I talked about

1076
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: this last week, is whoever the coordinator is. I think

1077
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: it's on the players to tackle better. I think that's

1078
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: you can be a genius coordinator. Brian Flores's defense doesn't

1079
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: work if guys can't tackle, you know, like, you've got

1080
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: to be able to tackle more consistently. That is something

1081
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: that you know. I'm sure there are coaching points. I'm

1082
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: sure there are angles and different way you know, guys

1083
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: being in the right position, but sometimes you just you

1084
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: got to make a tackle and then you got to

1085
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: have guys rallying to the ball. Every single team that

1086
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: won this weekend, on Wildcard weekend, and pretty much every

1087
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: single team that played on wild Card weekend, you saw

1088
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: guys flying to the football, you know, justin Jefferson. There

1089
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: was one play last night on tonight where he made

1090
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: the first guy miss and then like nine Rams players

1091
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: came over and brought him down and he was shy

1092
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: of a first down. Just like you need to see

1093
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: more of that, and that right there will elevate this defense,

1094
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: regardless who the coordinator is. Yeah, to me, it starts

1095
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: with tackling and then it's getting more pressure. The coordinator

1096
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: can help with the pressure. I think the guys on

1097
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: that defense got to help with the tackling.

1098
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: And one of the things that I'll go back to,

1099
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: and I've referred to this game a lot, because it's

1100
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: been one of the better defensive performances I think that

1101
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: we have seen of the scroup. But if you go

1102
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: back to the Colts win over the Ravens from twenty twenty.

1103
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: Three, blitzed a lot MATC, they blitzed a ton.

1104
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: Actually, so I'm pulling it up right now because I've

1105
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 3: got to go back and look exactly.

1106
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I recall I look that up and that was the

1107
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: most Gus Bradley had blitzed since like twenty seventeen.

1108
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you're right, and I'm looking at it,

1109
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: so where is this Okay, you came out of that

1110
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: game with four sacks on Lamar Jackson because you are

1111
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: bringing that type of pressure. I think that so, and again,

1112
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: the majority of that group you still have in the building.

1113
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: So I think that it has proven that when you

1114
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: have a game plan for that and you're doing more

1115
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: of that, this group can be successful.

1116
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1117
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: I think I think you've seen Zire Franklin of good

1118
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 1: moments as a blitzer. You've seen anymore going there? Yeah,

1119
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Like I was like going through the defense, like, oh yeah,

1120
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: he's he's had really good moments as a blitzer. It's

1121
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: never really been ingrained in this style of defense. But

1122
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: I think that is there's maybe a little untapped potential

1123
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: there with this group because these guys.

1124
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 2: They had fifteen tackles in that game.

1125
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean that sounds about right. I mean

1126
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: he had an awesome game that day, and they put

1127
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Lamar kind of in a blender in a way that was, Hey,

1128
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 1: Lamar won MVP last year, he might win MVP again

1129
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: this year. That that style of defense. You're right, it

1130
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: is kind of becoming more in vogue. But it's not

1131
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: all about sending seven guys on every single play. It's

1132
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: about being targeted with it, because there's a risk with

1133
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: that too, right there is. It's about making it confusing

1134
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: for the opposing quarterback. And I think that right there,

1135
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't always have to look like you're sending fifty

1136
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: percent of your snaps you're blitzing. It can look like it,

1137
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: It can be in different ways, but I think it

1138
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: just needs to be ratcheted up. Like too often. I

1139
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: think quarterbacks just weren't confused enough by this defense in

1140
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So there you have it. That's going

1141
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: to do it for this episode the Official Cults Podcast.

1142
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week.

1143
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 2: Wait, who you got?

1144
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm just well, well, we better of a while. You're right,

1145
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: we better of a divisional round preview.

1146
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: Well that, and then I was also going to say,

1147
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: who's your pick for the National Championship between Notre Dame

1148
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: and Ohio State.

1149
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: As someone who covered the Notre Dame fighting Irish.

1150
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: I actually covered a Notre Dame Ohio State game in

1151
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. In the Fiesta Bowl. Fun fact,

1152
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State won that game. They had Joey Posa and Zeke.

1153
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: They won that game pretty handily. Okay, I mean if

1154
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State, if the Ohio State that beat Oregon and

1155
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: shows up, they're going to win. But Notre Dame like

1156
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: they've got this sort of like they're they're really banged up,

1157
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: like Jeremiah loves out there, playing on like one good leg,

1158
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: and they keep finding ways to win. And Ohio State

1159
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: did not look all that impressive against Texas. They were

1160
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: like one really questionable toss, sweet play away from needing

1161
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: to go down and win that game on a last

1162
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: second drive. I like sixty percent of my brain says

1163
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State wins it, but forty percent says the Irish

1164
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: win it interesting and that's probably more than I would

1165
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: have fought. Yeah, looking at it, what about you? What

1166
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: do you think?

1167
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Man?

1168
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I love.

1169
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: I loved having five straight days of football. Like I've

1170
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: been so.

1171
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: Spoiled, right, I've been slept at all.

1172
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: It's been so good I am. There's just to me.

1173
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: I don't really have a great explanation for it. There's

1174
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: just something about this Notre Dame team. There's just something

1175
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: to the stream, Marcus screams, awesome. What do you make

1176
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: of him getting NFL head coaching interest.

1177
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that makes a lot of sense. Certainly made

1178
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: more sense than the previous Notre Dame coach getting kind

1179
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: of feltad coaching interests that one time.

1180
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: I I'm curious with that.

1181
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: I don't like it's it's interesting to me because them like,

1182
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: oh man, you've got a good thing going right now, like.

1183
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: You really, you really do.

1184
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: Teams are gonna they if you're trying to find like

1185
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: a program builder or culture builder, like you're probably gonna

1186
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: at least place a call. I don't know if he

1187
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: would even entertain it, but you'd probably at least place

1188
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: a call. He is a fantastic football coach. Yeah, because

1189
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame with all the injuries they've had.

1190
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he played at Ohio State.

1191
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah that I mean until you know, obviously the table

1192
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: was set and everything.

1193
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, of course, Yeah, I

1194
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: think he probably wants Notre Dame to win that game.

1195
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: I would, yeah, yes, of course. But all right, how

1196
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: you how you feel about the Division round?

1197
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, let's see, I mean I was completely wrong

1198
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: about that. Chargers Texans game. I thought the Chargers are

1199
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: going to win that, So take whatever I say with

1200
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. I mean I think Kansas City

1201
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: kind of has been secretly peaking down the stretch, like they.

1202
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: Look like no one knows how to do it at

1203
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: the right time. Yeah, better than Kansas.

1204
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: This is like the like they feel like those like

1205
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: late stage Tim Duncan Spurs teams where it's like they

1206
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: would just kind of like fart their way through the

1207
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: season and then go win a championship. Because Tim Duncan

1208
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: was in his late thirties and Greg Popovich is the

1209
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: greatest coach of all time, and Andy Reid might be

1210
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time. And yeah, yeah, I

1211
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: mean Houston's defense is really good. Yeah, that game could

1212
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: be really interesting. I think Commander's Lions could be a

1213
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: banger of a football game.

1214
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yes.

1215
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: I think I probably like that. Dan, Yeah, Dan's Quinn

1216
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: and Campbell. I probably like Detroit at home in that game.

1217
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Rams Eagles Philly, Philly did not come out of the

1218
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: gates swinging against Green Bay. And you know, Matt Stafford,

1219
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: I know, I don't there. I'm not making like any

1220
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: official picks here, but like, man, I wouldn't be surprised

1221
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: if the Rams kept that thing real tight.

1222
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: I would agree with you.

1223
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: How one of my things, like I'm so happy for

1224
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: Sequon Barkley, Like I'm like, part of me is like

1225
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: like loving this for the Eagles for him because I'm like, what,

1226
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, what a guy to see him playing at

1227
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: this level after all that he went through early in

1228
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 3: his career playing in New.

1229
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: York getting hurt and during the injuries.

1230
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: Then to be in the position that he is and

1231
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: just to make like the plays that he makes, the

1232
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: way that he runs like, he's like kind of for me,

1233
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, let them go as far as part

1234
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: because I just want to watch Sekuon Barkley more because

1235
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: I didn't get to watch him enough during the regular

1236
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: season because we were playing so like I just didn't

1237
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: need more Saquon selfishly.

1238
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: And then there's also just the I don't know, probably

1239
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: the NFL Game of the Year Bill's Ravens, Oh my.

1240
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: God, god, the Battle of the MVPs.

1241
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, also shout out to the shout out

1242
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: to the NFL for I forgot that they do this

1243
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: on like Divisional run weekend. That game starts at six

1244
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: thirty pm. Thank you, great, thank you. I will be

1245
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: well rested on Monday because that game starts at reasonable

1246
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: hour here in the Eastern time zone, and I cannot

1247
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: wait to watch that football game. We've had, We've had

1248
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: a great five days of football, right, this is gonna

1249
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: be like Saturday Sunday into Monday with the College Football Championship.

1250
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: Four or three really really exciting days of football. Wait,

1251
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: we'll have a lot to talk about on Tuesday's episode

1252
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: of the Official Cults Podcast. Next question, sure, all right

1253
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: for Lara Overton, I'm JJ Sankobitz. Thanks for watching and

1254
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: listening to this episode of the Official Colts Podcast. Talk

1255
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: to you next week. So long,