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Speaker 1: Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you

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Speaker 1: and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy

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Speaker 1: New Year.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with US President Trump at Arlington

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Speaker 1: National Cemetery on Veterans Day. And we have a couple

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Speaker 1: of cuts from what he had to say there and

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Speaker 1: if we could play those now, that would be fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Everything we have, everything our country has achieved, has been

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Speaker 3: purchased by the muscle, spine, and steel of the United

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Speaker 3: States Military. We owe it all to the fierce and

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Speaker 3: noble men and women of the Army, the Navy, the

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Speaker 3: Air Force, Space Force, Coast Guard, and the United States Marines.

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Speaker 3: Is a guy of his members. Our own words are

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Speaker 3: the greatest possible tribute to their immortal valor.

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Speaker 1: Trump also Buck talked about the decision to switch back

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Speaker 1: to the Department of War, and here is what he

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Speaker 1: had to say about the necessity for that.

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Speaker 4: From now on, we're going to be celebrating Victory Day,

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Speaker 4: the World War One, the World War II, and frankly

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Speaker 4: for everything else. Under the Trump administration, we're restoring the

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Speaker 4: pride and the winning spirit of the United States military.

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Speaker 4: That's why we have officially renamed the Department of Defense

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Speaker 4: back to the original name.

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Speaker 3: Department of War.

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Speaker 5: And remember, we won World War One, we won World

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Speaker 5: War Two, we won everything in between. We won everything

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Speaker 5: that came before, and then we brilliantly decided to change

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Speaker 5: the name of this great thing that we all created

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Speaker 5: together other and we became politically correct. We don't like

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Speaker 5: being politically correct, so we're not going to be politically

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Speaker 5: correct anymore from now on. When we fight a war,

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Speaker 5: we only fight for one reason, to win. We fight

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Speaker 5: to win.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that's President Trump. Arlington National Cemetery, I will say,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think this has gotten enough attention, and

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Speaker 1: certainly it should because it's a very positive story here

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Speaker 1: as we celebrate Veterans Day. Buck the overall enlistment numbers

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Speaker 1: for our military has skyrocketed since Pete hag Seth has

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Speaker 1: gotten in there, since President Trump has taken over, and

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Speaker 1: since they've gone back to the idea of warriors. And

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Speaker 1: we want the people in the military to be in shape,

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Speaker 1: and we want them to be badasses and we want

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Speaker 1: them to be a lethal fighting force. It turns out

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Speaker 1: that that's actually a much better pitch to young men

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Speaker 1: and inclusive and we want to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: can have your trans surgeries while you're also in military.

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Speaker 1: Young people want to be better, sharper, tougher versions of themselves,

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Speaker 1: and that's certainly coming through, I think in the renewed

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a spray de corps is a critical aspect of

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Speaker 6: having an effective military, of military cohesion. You have to

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Speaker 6: have belief in what it is that you are doing,

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Speaker 6: because otherwise it almost seems like an inherently irrational thing

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Speaker 6: to sign up for a job where you're saying, I

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Speaker 6: you have to love something to be willing to do that.

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Speaker 6: In as we're talking about, of course, veterans day, that

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Speaker 6: is what all of our veterans are willing to do.

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Speaker 6: That is why they sign up. And yet on the

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Speaker 6: bureaucrat political side of things, they have starved to chip

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Speaker 6: away at that, they have started to make it seem

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Speaker 6: like there are there's a social justice experiment that is

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Speaker 6: the primary goal of our military, or the military is

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Speaker 6: a jobs program, but not really for fighting or for combat.

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Speaker 6: It's for some other purpose. Right, I'll never forget this

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Speaker 6: isn't about the military, but the the idiot former CIA

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Speaker 6: director Brennan, who's in all kinds of trouble with Trump

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Speaker 6: and and the DOJ and everything else, he said something

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Speaker 6: like CIA doesn't steal secrets. Do you remember this? He

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Speaker 6: actually said that he was a CIA director. He's like

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Speaker 6: a CIA doesn't steal secrets. And for a lot of

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Speaker 6: us who sat there and said, no, that is that

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Speaker 6: straightforward thing that you can possibly have. And and so

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Speaker 6: I think what they're doing with the military cherry, what

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Speaker 6: And everybody that I know who has been in a

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Speaker 6: that I've talked to about this, and that's I know,

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Speaker 6: this is personal. It's anecdotal. They like the direction of

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Speaker 1: I'll also point this out, and we've got Rutherford in

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Speaker 1: any of the Clay and Buck podcast network, including Badass

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Speaker 1: David Rutherford. One of the things since I've started doing

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Speaker 1: the show, I've gotten to meet Buck a lot more Seals,

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Speaker 1: a lot more Special Forces guys. I'm astounded by how

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Speaker 1: as if at any point in time they could kill you.

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Speaker 1: They clearly could, but you wouldn't know that these guys

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Speaker 1: and they clearly are. Reminds me Buck. I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: fights on ice skates for a living, you definitely don't

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Speaker 1: of times you bump into a seal you're in trouble,

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Speaker 1: and you don't even see it coming, you know.

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Speaker 6: There's the quote also on the Department of War issue

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Speaker 6: three to one, meaning the morale of your force is essential.

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Speaker 6: Morale is not just again, because this goes to your

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Speaker 6: which is the essence. Unfortunately it's a human reality. The

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Speaker 1: I mean, you go back and you read American history,

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, the morale associated with what

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Speaker 6: Yes, but the ability of our military to have been

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Speaker 6: So that I think is something that the left undermines.

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Speaker 6: of three casualties in the Civil War from disease? Right?

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Speaker 6: Two out of three deaths in Civil War from disease.

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Speaker 6: So another part of this is we often think of

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Speaker 6: But then there's also the contracting typhus in camp because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. And to your point, especially because so

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I just think what veterans went through.

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Speaker 1: We don't spend enough time contemplating throughout all of human

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Speaker 6: What's the best? Do you have a favorite historical uh,

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Speaker 1: really good. You know, he goes into I'm sure some

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Speaker 1: of you have read it, but it's about the Battle

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Speaker 1: books that built around that. But that's probably my favorite

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Speaker 1: historical work of fiction. What about you? Back in the

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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, Gates of Fire Stephen Pressfield, about Thermopylae, Spartans

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Speaker 6: I don't care what anybody's I hate disco music if

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Speaker 6: Now when they is not is not the that's not rap.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Dun harmony, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Get everybody a break from this. This is too much

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Speaker 6: It actually is not very much R and B. It

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Speaker 6: You see that. You see this? This is like it's

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Speaker 1: This is where I'm one hundred percent right is Uh.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to a musical and thought, you know what,

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Speaker 1: The whole musical universe. They're all awful, and they would

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Speaker 6: I'm just loud, you barbarian, you cultural barbarian, that I

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Speaker 1: I will admit that I can be distracted by ladies

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Speaker 1: Well, a Shakespeare play?

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Speaker 6: You know Shakespeare, Clay, that guy Shakespeare, He's got some

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Speaker 1: She went to go see George Clooney Uh in the

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Speaker 1: the CBS. Edward R. Murrow no singing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good good luck. We pretty good to save on

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Speaker 6: that one. Yeah. I a long time ago, I had

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Speaker 6: a date who demanded that I taker. I shouldn't say demanded,

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Speaker 6: but she kind of demanded that we go to Frozen

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Speaker 6: on Broadway. That was brutal. That was brutal. Didn't last,

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Speaker 6: That's all I can tell you. Didn't last. She really

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Speaker 6: wanted to go to Frozen.

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Speaker 1: They made a movie about I mean, they made a

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Speaker 1: play about Frozen.

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Speaker 6: It was on Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really, I didn't even know that I missed that one. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of weird.

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Speaker 6: You make the buckster sit through some nonsense like that,

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Speaker 6: you're not long for.

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Speaker 1: The date Broadly like version of Frozen and it's already off.

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Speaker 1: Didn't Frozen make like eight billion dollars? How did the

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Speaker 1: play not work? Like? They still have Aladdin the play.

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Speaker 1: I've seen all of these because I was with my

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Speaker 1: kids the Lion King. They did all the different play

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Speaker 1: versions on Broadway. But oh man, that's a weird chick

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Speaker 1: that wanted you as part of a date to take

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Speaker 1: her to go see Frozen. I got taken on a

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Speaker 1: date to Headwig and the Angry Inch, and I never forgot.

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Speaker 6: Nor forgave that debacle either. I don't know if you

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Speaker 6: know what that play is about, but if you do,

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Speaker 6: you'll know what I'm talking about. Not good, not good. No,

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Speaker 6: the guy cuts off his own you know what, Clay

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Speaker 6: true story. That's the play. And there's some rock music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, must be popular with democrats kind of their anthem

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Speaker 1: Democrat men, a lot of Democrat men, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a metaphor there. All right, do we have to

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Speaker 1: get back now? Like No, I think we got to

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Speaker 1: open up the calls.

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Speaker 6: I think you gotta hate the reset and talk about

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Speaker 6: like serious things and at the top and.

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Speaker 1: Say that at the top of the next hour, people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be angrier at me about my R and

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Speaker 1: B and musicals Take the top five wrong, Clay take

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Speaker 1: Top five Clay belly flop right here.

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Speaker 6: On R and B. There's such worst genres of music

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Speaker 6: than R and B. I'm I mean, I don't love

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Speaker 6: R and B, but there are some great R and

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Speaker 6: B out there, Like Aretha Franklin is incredible. Okay, let

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Speaker 6: sin I it's not real R and B. They're pushing

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Speaker 6: it into pop. Everything you like that's actually R and

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Speaker 6: B is just pop that they have disguised as the

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Speaker 6: R and B. Go go pull an album up and

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Speaker 6: just listen to somebody wailing.

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Speaker 1: That is real R and B. And it's awful.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like Attila the Hunt is explaining

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Speaker 6: the Sistine Chapel to me right now, like this is

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Speaker 6: just not this is just not working for me.

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Speaker 1: I was just in the Sistine Chapel. I appreciate great art.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Assistine Chapel is very nice, very nice. See, ever

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Speaker 6: since Clay got doused with holiness, you know, now he's

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Speaker 6: just an expert on all these things.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's ever since his high five with the Pope.

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Speaker 1: You get to hang with the Pope. You just see

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Speaker 1: the world. But the Pope agrees with me on bad

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Speaker 1: R and B.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Let's go

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Speaker 6: right into this, the the big controversy of the day,

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Speaker 6: Clay's take on music. We knew this was going to happen.

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00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 6: I thought I'd upset some disco lovers out there, but no,

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Speaker 6: Clay decided, I'm just he said, hold my beer or

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Speaker 6: maybe hold my rose. I'm going to do something even

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Speaker 6: more inflammatory by throwing all of R and B under

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Speaker 6: the bus. This is Diana from Houston. Isn't Diana Ross?

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Speaker 6: By the way, fantas going to say, is this Diana

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Speaker 6: Ross who's got amazing? If if Arifa the Queen Franklin

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Speaker 6: herself were to send us a talkback right now, maybe

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Speaker 6: maybe a little singing CC, Diana from Houston.

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Speaker 8: Hit it buck, Please take the shovel away from Clay.

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Speaker 9: He's digging a deeper hole.

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Speaker 8: The more he talks, the deeper it gets.

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Speaker 6: You your sin, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think most people agree with me.

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Speaker 1: I think I think most people out there are, like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Clay's right, Because R and B is

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Speaker 1: awful standing alone, they have to cross it with actual

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Speaker 1: good genres in order to make it popular.

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Speaker 6: I just want to tell you, shovel ready, Clay is

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Speaker 6: the best clay. The clay that has that shovel and

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Speaker 6: keeps digging is like the most entertaining because once once

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Speaker 6: you goat him into it, once you give him the

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Speaker 6: off ramp from his craziness, no interest, he's going he's

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Speaker 6: gonna dig a hole the China, which you know that you're.

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Speaker 1: Right, you don't bail and I'm right on this. The

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Speaker 1: traditional R and B is a wasted genre that has

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Speaker 1: to cross pollinate with actual genres that people want to listen.

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Speaker 6: Here we go someone in North Dakota. Big surprise, Brian

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Speaker 6: wants to take Clay's side in the R and B debate.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, put them on.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, no problem with that. You know the original

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Speaker 8: R and B when you get back to the Temptations

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Speaker 8: and Retha Franklin and the folks you're talking about there,

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Speaker 8: but absolutely correct. But what we moved into is just

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Speaker 8: nothing but pop and money and the screenfest. Whitney Houston

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Speaker 8: started it all. And quite honestly, if I want to

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Speaker 8: get yelled at, I'm moved back in with one of

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Speaker 8: my ex wives.

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Speaker 6: Wait wait, wait a second, wait a second, you're throwing

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Speaker 6: Whitney is amazing, amazing voice, Buck, But her voice is

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Speaker 6: so good that she got lazy and they just said, hey,

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Speaker 6: you're going to read the phone book for eight of

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Speaker 6: your eight of your These are the worst music takes

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Speaker 6: I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: I've just then we're going to cross pollinate it with

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Speaker 1: pop and we'll actually have like three songs that people

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Speaker 1: like that. Whitney Houston does, and they don't even realize

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Speaker 1: how awful most of Whitney Houston's music is clay.

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Speaker 6: Next thing, you know, you're going to throw a Manheim

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Speaker 6: steam roll under the bus. It's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: I will say the Beyonce like like love Affair is well.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I might be contradicting myself for a second.

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Speaker 1: Here is Adele.

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Speaker 6: That would be a shock as you're running in circles

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Speaker 6: here on, that's not R and B, this is R

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Speaker 6: and B.

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Speaker 1: I will I will pull one exception out. I think

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Speaker 1: Adele is one hundred percent R and B. Would it

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Speaker 1: be fair to say, although she crosses over with pop two,

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Speaker 1: who is the most prominent current R and B artist? Beyonce?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know. I don't listen to really anything

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Speaker 6: new anymore. I listened to like a little bit of

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Speaker 6: you know, indie rock and that. That's about. That's about it.

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Speaker 6: By the way, we're getting thrown unto the bus here.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get back into the whole third hour. We're

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Speaker 6: gonna get into pressing news and analysis therein and the

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Speaker 6: fight for Western civilization. So because we're getting some calls

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Speaker 6: about that too, Okay, we'll get back to it. It's

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Speaker 6: almost Christmas. We only talk about so much massacres, mayhem

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Speaker 6: and and terrorism and all these horrible things without you know,

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Speaker 6: we got to take a breather too, all right, Billy

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Speaker 6: from New York wants to throw us under the bus.

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Speaker 6: This is talkback, bb man.

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Speaker 10: I had to get off of my ladder just to

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Speaker 10: tell you, guys, I can't believe and either of you

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Speaker 10: two none of you seen the Warriors, you guys what

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Speaker 10: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 6: This is true.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Billy from New York is definitely from

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 6: I love it. I had to get off my ladder. Billy,

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Speaker 6: we love you.

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Speaker 1: This was I think age related because this is one

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Speaker 1: where it came out in nineteen seventy nine. I think

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Speaker 1: if you looked it up, because Clay, you were just

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Speaker 1: graduating college, you clearly should have seen this. I was

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Speaker 1: born in seventy nine. Buck was born in what eighty

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Speaker 1: two eighty one, and so this is like one of

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Speaker 1: those little windows where the movie came out, like when

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Speaker 1: we were so young that we never went back to

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Speaker 1: see it. I've never seen that movie, and I know

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Speaker 1: people were fired up about that. I think that was

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Speaker 1: Friday we had a talk back, and we had to

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Speaker 1: confess to that we.

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Speaker 6: Have we have have a gen Z podcast listener. Ryan

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Speaker 6: from Iowa wants to weigh it on the gen Z

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Speaker 6: phenomenon in politics these days.

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Speaker 9: AA hit it Ay Clay Buckets, Ryan from Iowa. I'm

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Speaker 9: a gen Z. I just wanted to point out that

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Speaker 9: in nineteen eighty apparently it was eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 9: dollars an ounce to get gold versus nowadays four thousand,

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Speaker 9: three hundred and thirty dollars. And in the eighties it

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Speaker 9: would be two hundred and seventy four hours at minimum

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Speaker 9: wage versus nowadays at five ninety seven hours. And that's

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Speaker 9: why so many in my generation are falling to the

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Speaker 9: trap of socialism. The economy is just not what it was.

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Speaker 6: Well, the inflation, the inflation problem is very real and

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Speaker 6: for wage earners and people trying to build assets play

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Speaker 6: like for example, by their first home, inflation is a

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Speaker 6: big challenge.

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Speaker 1: I also think the homes have expanded monstrously since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: So what we consider to be a starter home, let

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Speaker 1: me just point out in twenty twenty five starter homes

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Speaker 1: would have in any case, has been considered the largest

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Speaker 1: homes anywhere in a neighborhood back in the seventies or

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Speaker 1: sixties or fifties, if you see some of the size

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Speaker 1: of those homes historically, so, I think it's also an

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Speaker 1: expectation of how much bigger a home needs to be