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Speaker 1: real quick. You should check out Amy's four Things with

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Speaker 1: Amy Brown's fantastic lifestyle, female health, a little bit of faith,

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Speaker 1: that out It's a really fantastic podcast. If you love Amy,

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Speaker 1: just give it a listen. Caroline Hobby has a fantastic

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Speaker 1: her recent shows was her with Chris Daughtry's wife and

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Speaker 1: There's also one on the Get Real podcast where they

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Speaker 1: The guys have a sports show called The Sore Losers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole thing. Is Rocking Velvet's Edge

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Speaker 1: then we're starting to look at American Idol. Here we

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Speaker 1: The first year. It was great, but they give you

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Speaker 1: Like this is just what's gonna be. Here's your money,

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Speaker 1: This is Ingrid Andrews. Anything I've forgotten might be thank you.

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Speaker 1: Check out my comedy show if you'd like Raging Idiots

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Speaker 1: of comedy and music. I play a work tape in

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Speaker 1: Ingrid ind alright episode too well? Sorry started again, Mike

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode one of the Bobby Cast with Ingrid Andrews.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a couple of your songs real quick.

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Speaker 1: you got. Yeah, so that was kind of your lifestyle.

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00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Was a lot of mountain climbing, a lot of outdoors. Yeah,

424
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: my family we would go camping for fun, which at

425
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: the time I was like, this is not fun, but

426
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: it's um lots of hiking, um, snowboarding, skiing, just the

427
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: whole the whole thing. Is that still fun to you now?

428
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: Like when it's like, hey, I want to take a

429
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: second and take a beat and go away, do you

430
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: go back and do those kind of activities? Yes? I do.

431
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: It's fun now because I feel like it's you're actually

432
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: appreciating the nature. And when you're younger, you're it's kind

433
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: of like why can't I, you know, play video games

434
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: with my friends? But now it's like, oh, thank god,

435
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: I'm out here. I just want to go listen to

436
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: d C talk with my friends. Come on. I was

437
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: speaking of your music on Instagram. The Cracker Borough stuff

438
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: is really cool. Yeah, that was really an awesome opportunity

439
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: This is a Wide Open Spaces with Karen and Kimberly

440
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: from Little Big Town and Ingrid, a young girl's dreams

441
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: no longer hollow. It takes the shape of the place

442
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: out with what it holds. She hasn't yet, I guess

443
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: she spaces. Who was at the idea for that arrangement?

444
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what they do on the actual Yeah,

445
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: oh I didn't know that. I just hear one big

446
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: wide open spaces that in your wide Open spaces spaces

447
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: Did you know that there? Yeah? Otherwise we wouldn't have

448
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: come up with that because we didn't know how to

449
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: make the clean break because in the recording, Um yeah,

450
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: they like hanging over, So we were like, oh do

451
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: we hold it out? Like do you think cool? That's cool? Yeah?

452
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: I thought that you guys came up with never mind,

453
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: I'd take my compliment of oh my god, it's still

454
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: it's still great, that's great, it's fun. You how did

455
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: you get into this? How did the cracker borrowl call

456
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: you and go, you're cool, come do it? Or do

457
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: someone recommend you? Um? They So the whole thing is

458
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: a mentoring program. So they asked a Little Big Town

459
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 1: to do it and They were like, who do you

460
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: want to mentor? And they said me, So that's really cool. Yeah.

461
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: When they when my manager told me, oh yeah, Cracker

462
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: Barol wants you to do this thing, I was like,

463
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: what could they possibly want me to do? Eat the

464
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: chicken fried chicken on Instagram. I mean, I did spend

465
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Cracker Borowl as a kid,

466
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I had no idea what was going on,

467
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: but I was really excited. Now, you seem like a

468
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: very confident person when it comes to music, and rightfully so,

469
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: you're super talented. But do you and and let's remove

470
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: the humility card for one second for the answer this question,

471
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: because it's removed when you walk and you're playing with

472
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Kimberly and Karen, who are fantastic people and love them.

473
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: Are you at all? Are you a bit intimidated? Or

474
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: you like, great, I'm good, You're good, Let's just rock it.

475
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: That's pretty much how rehearsal was. Honestly. I was just

476
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: excited to be able to sing with people who got

477
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: harmonies really easily and really efficiently. So if anything, it

478
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: was fun because yeah, we all like each other and

479
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: we like and respect what we do. Is I feel

480
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: like that kind of level the playing field out a

481
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: little bit. And I wasn't the only thing I was

482
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: nervous about is like not getting their song right because

483
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I like practiced it the night before and I was like, oh,

484
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: I hope I don't mess this up. But that was it.

485
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: But to you, it was like, this is cool. All

486
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: we're all good with professionals were all good. I enjoyed them,

487
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: but you weren't, like I'm so intimidated to go sing

488
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: in a room with them. No, not at all. It's cool.

489
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: It's a good answer and an honest answer. I like that.

490
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Like that. Like that. And then they did one of

491
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: your songs? Which song do they do of yours? More

492
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: hard then mine? That's cool that I always mess the name.

493
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: I always call it hearts more of mine? But that

494
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: I like your version. I like how you say it too,

495
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: that's cool. I like your flip though. That's that's smart. Yeah.

496
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Some songs that you wrote on which is interesting to me,

497
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: Charlie xc X is boys, here you go. Here's this.

498
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: I was busy thinking about when probably like two and

499
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: a half years ago, was she in the room and

500
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: write it for her? Um? Neither we I just wrote

501
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: it with my friends in a bedroom and she heard

502
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: it and it was like the first outside song that

503
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: she could So you get to call going, hey, Charlie

504
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: x X is liking it, it's put it on hold,

505
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: it's cutting it, Like, which what level do you get

506
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: to call? Um? It was cutting it? And then I

507
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: wasn't sure what was happening. And then they were like, oh,

508
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: by the way, she's making this whole music video, all

509
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: these celebrities in it and it's going to be great,

510
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, perfect, dope, that's cool. Yeah,

511
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: And so why would you not keep the song for yourself?

512
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Was it something you knew wasn't for you? You were

513
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: just writing? Yeah, I was just having a good time. Honestly,

514
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Um it seems to be the theme of you. Yeah,

515
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: I really, UM know it was. I wrote it with

516
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: my friends because I had just come from an urban

517
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: session where like all these guys were talking about all

518
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: their hose in different area codes and I was like

519
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: the only chick in the session. So I left being

520
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: super mad, being like, why do you guys get to

521
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: sing about all the girls they have and girls don't

522
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: get to sing about all the guys they have. I

523
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: just don't think that's fair. So here we are. Did

524
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: you walk in the room with that idea? Um? Yeah,

525
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: it kind of came out after, like, you know, I

526
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: half a bottle of red wine. I was just venting.

527
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: But we had the hook already and we just were like,

528
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: how do we develop this story? So do you ever

529
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: go into a room and you're like, I have this

530
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: idea and you present it, You're like, okay, what about this? Guys?

531
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: You're feeling pretty good about it and everyone just kind

532
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: of looks at you like, oh no, especially if it's

533
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: like a really deep thought that everybody knows they're really

534
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: going to have to dig in and they're like, I

535
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: don't feel like it today. Oh, So that would be

536
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: the reason if people are kind of tired and yeah,

537
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: or they're just like, oh wow, that's gonna be like

538
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: really difficult to write, and I don't think I'm ready

539
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: for that today. Let's just write something easy. A few

540
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: days ago, I was writing with a couple of friends

541
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: and I had an idea. I said, Hey, I'm running

542
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: from a comedy. We're doing a live comedy record and

543
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: little Rock and I was like, hey, guys, I got

544
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: an idea. I said, I want to write this song

545
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: called It's just Poison ivy, and they all looked at

546
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: me like wait what, I'm like, listen, trust me on this,

547
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: like you're with a girl, oh my god, and like

548
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm the dude exactly where this guy? And I was like,

549
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I was like and then she's like see the rabbit. No, no,

550
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: it's just points an ivy. We wrote it. It's really funny.

551
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: But wait to hear their face is um, I mean, I,

552
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: I really do. This is my friend Brandon singing it.

553
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I make him sing down all the songs because he's good. Okay,

554
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: the lights a low, music is slow. I can't believe

555
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: funny on Tonight's Tonight it feels like perfect. I'm so

556
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: ready you're mad and I'm ready show you really, but

557
00:29:50,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: don't freaking that's justice pois Oh my god, I'm if

558
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: you don't laugh at oh my god, even thinks of that? Well,

559
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: that's why they looked at me funny. They're like, who

560
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: even thinks of that? That's well, that means it's a

561
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: good idea. And so I just wondered if you ever

562
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: got that look like, oh, but you're probably not that

563
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: obviously stupid. Yours is for being so deep and and no,

564
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: that's the first year I've never played that before. We're

565
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: gonna play this weekend for the first time. Oh my god,

566
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's like an exclusive. Um So, that song?

567
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: Are you getting checks for that song yet? Has been

568
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: out long enough to get checks? Writing checks? Okay? Uh,

569
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: fletchers about you? Let me play this is she? She

570
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: live a Nashville. She has a lot of Nashville friends.

571
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of my people. I think she

572
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: did her first ever record with a producer and maybe

573
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Yeah, So I talk about this

574
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: one for a second with you. Hop into the writing

575
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: room for this one. Um we I wrote this in

576
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Nashville actually with my friends. And I guess my question

577
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: is were you just having a good time or did

578
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: you go in like really like we're gonna get serious.

579
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: I know we were just having a guitar like that

580
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: like that answer? Yeah? Ye? Like who writes that seriously?

581
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: Which part I enjoy? Yeah? Ya, I enjoy snaps. I

582
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: enjoy I love that you can be awesome and put

583
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: all that stuff in. That's what people remember too. Yeah,

584
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: even that's my favorite part of the super small like

585
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: us insane like body like a back road. It's the

586
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: character parts that people remember, the super character parts. I should,

587
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I should give you lessons. I'm a real fantastic can say,

588
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: can you write this down for me? I'll do? You

589
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: want more pop song than you did? Vice? ADI one

590
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: to three four? Yeah? It's an old one. Yeah, this

591
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: one I'm not familiar with. It's a big hit overseas?

592
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Was it? Vice? Out of singer DJ Vice d J

593
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: vi Con Yeah, it's all right, I got you. Wow,

594
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I only know like one DJ J Colm. Okay, Well

595
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: that's cool. So you write these songs? So how do you?

596
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: Are you able to go to l A and write songs?

597
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Are your Nationville people cool with that? You have a

598
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: publishing deal? Right? How does that work? Um? I have

599
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: a joint venture with Kardia Guardies publishing company, which is

600
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: based out of l A. So I've always split my

601
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: time between or not? Well, yeah, I guess it is.

602
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: So you write pop songs halftime? I used to? Yeah,

603
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: still would like to, but I just feel like, I mean,

604
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I can just write wherever now, it doesn't really matter.

605
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Is the artist thing consuming everything now? Yes? Which is

606
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: fine because I always wanted to be an artist. But

607
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: it's also weird having to write songs only about things

608
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: that are happening in my life. I can't just check

609
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: out and make up a story anymore. I mean I could,

610
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: but would you ever make up? Because I have songwriter

611
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: friends would be like, hey, what do you think about

612
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: the song? I'll be like, a listen and it's so

613
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: personal and a little bit makes me a little bit uncomfortable.

614
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: And I just made this up, and I'm like, this

615
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: song is about cheating. That's awkward, Like, would you ever

616
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: write a song that was just You're like, you're writing

617
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: a fictional tale and you gotta bring it and give

618
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: it to someone and it's like and they're like, I'm

619
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: just about you. Who has the third nipple in this song?

620
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: This you? Oh my god, that's hilarious. I mean, I

621
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: think I think writing, if you're writing for other people,

622
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: people don't even care about who writes this song. It's

623
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: just about who cuts it. So I feel like if

624
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: they relate to something in that story, then that's what

625
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: makes it worth it. You moved to Nashville win two thousand,

626
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: third teen from Boston. Yes, did you finish school or

627
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: did you jump out early? Jump out early? And Is

628
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: that pretty common there because it's like, if it's time

629
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: to work, that's what you went to school for us

630
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, So you leave Boston and you have

631
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: to have that conversation with your parents like you know,

632
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to jump before I finish. Uh No, they

633
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: just kind of like let me do whatever. They feel

634
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: like they instill a good work ethic in me. So

635
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: they never held me back from wanting to do what

636
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: I wanted because they let me know, like if you

637
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: want to pursue this and just know, it's like you

638
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: need to figure it out, like we're not going to

639
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: do anything for you. So it wasn't an uncomfortable conversation.

640
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: You guess I'm gonna have to quit school. I mean

641
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: we're going to music college. Like it can't get any

642
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: worse than that. You know, is that considered not a

643
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: real college when you said that earlier, I just it's

644
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: just another Oh no, No, I mean Berkeley is amazing,

645
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: like it is a very esteemed college. But I feel like,

646
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going there, you're obviously wanting to

647
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: pursue music. So whenever that is, it's your time to

648
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: do it. So when you move down, did you pack

649
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: up a truck and bring stuff or did you start

650
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: over fresh? What happened? No idea. I drove a rental

651
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: car down to Nashville by myself, and I just had

652
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: my keyboard and a guitar and just random clothes. And

653
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: then yeah, crashed in somebody's basement for a little while,

654
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: for like a few weeks until I found a really

655
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: sketchy apartment to live in. So where do you start

656
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: as a new artist without? Did you have friends here

657
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: when you first moved here? I knew one person was

658
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: that person in music? Uh, sort of? She was in

659
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: a singing group with me. Um, so like we had

660
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: like music connections, but she wasn't like a pursuing being

661
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: an artist or anything. So what do you do when

662
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: you first moved to town. You kind of have a friend,

663
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: but it's not like someone's going to take you and

664
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: start putting you places. Where do you start as a

665
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: new artist when you moved to Nashville? Um? Well, I

666
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: was actually just waiting to get in with Frank Rogers.

667
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: That was the whole point where I even moved to

668
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Nashville's because Kara dio Guardi had sent him some of

669
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: my songs and he wanted to work with Kara on

670
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: them and like pitched them to other artists, and she

671
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: ended up not being able to come down to do it.

672
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I'm just going to do it.

673
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: So um, I was just basically waiting to get into

674
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: a session with him. And so in the meantime, I

675
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: just like waited tables and went to songwriter rounds and

676
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: learned about the community and what was important. And I

677
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: didn't even know songwriter rounds were a thing until I

678
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: got here. So let's go to waiting tables. Where do

679
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: you work? I waited tables at Bricktops with Devin Dawson. Actually,

680
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and who was the better waiter? Because he

681
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: talks a lot of crap about waiting skills, I'm just

682
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna say, talking to him, he was not a good waitress.

683
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Oh my gosh, you know, he was

684
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: definitely way nicer than me, Like everybody loved him. I was.

685
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: I almost got fired like four times. I'm pretty sure

686
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: I was not not a strong waiter. I mean, I

687
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that the customer is always right,

688
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: especially when my memory is so good and I know

689
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: that No, Susan, you did not say no, croutons, you

690
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: just forgot to go holding it on Susan, still holding

691
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: it over, Susan, freaking Susan. And so you worked at

692
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: bricktops for how long? Um? I guess just a few months,

693
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: from like September to February. And the whole time you're there,

694
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I gotta get out of this.

695
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I gotta somehow make enough money doing music that I

696
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: don't have to do this. Yes, were you working at night? Yeah,

697
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: and morning like just all the time. So you start

698
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: to do song right around. But how do you get

699
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: in an early songwriter around? Um? You sign up somewhere.

700
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Do you call and say, hey, if you have an opening? Like?

701
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: How does that work? Early on? Yeah? I think so

702
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: you find people to do the writers around with, um,

703
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: and then you approach them being like, do you have

704
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: a night open that we can do this? A lot

705
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: of the times people would just um like invite me

706
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: out to see them or whatever, and then I get

707
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: to know people that way, and then I would ask

708
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: if I could join. I've actually started with me doing

709
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: it by myself, so nobody ever knew who I was

710
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: when I would play rounds. But um, that started helping

711
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: creating like a community of people. Is that when you

712
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: were inured ingress? Yeah, that's why I confuse that stuff

713
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: stuff that was me. So uh, at what point did

714
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: you go, oh, I can compete here like I I.

715
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean I felt that way since I got here.

716
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: I feel I felt like I'm a very competitive person.

717
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: So I would spend a lot of time, even when

718
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't waiting tables, just sitting at my keyboard in

719
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: my very unfurnished apartment, like working on songs and and

720
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: that's what was so great is by being able to

721
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: test them out at rounds and seeing like which songs

722
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: people got bored with and which ones people responded to.

723
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like I always knew I could compete

724
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: with it and like be in it, but it was

725
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: just a matter of me just wanted to get better.

726
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Do you prefer to write on piano? I do? Do

727
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: you write all the time on piano? Um? If I

728
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: want to switch the vibe up, guitar would be great,

729
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not that great at guitar, So I get

730
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: annoyed if I don't hear what I'm hearing in my

731
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: head what whatever I'm playing. So piano is more of

732
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: that instrument for me that I can just play whatever

733
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm hearing. Will you chase a lyric or a melody first? Oh,

734
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: just generally percentage wise what we're looking at here more

735
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, here the lytrics? What do I want

736
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: to say? Or you baboo do I do? And then

737
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: insert words after you create the melody. Um, if I'm

738
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: writing pop music, melody, but if I'm writing for me,

739
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: then definitely lyric. Funny how that works because I have

740
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of popwriter friends that are like, oh, yeah, well,

741
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: does create melody that we know works, and then we'll

742
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: just put in some crap words, which is pretty much

743
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: pop music, and there's a little hyperbole to that. They

744
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: don't just put in crap words, but there this is

745
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: a column semi crap. But they're like, it's not as

746
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: important in pop to have a story, like a legitimate,

747
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: like tangible story as in in country music. Like even

748
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: if it's a dope story, it's there's still some texture

749
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a body of work there lyrically. Yeah,

750
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that that's kind of how you write

751
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: those songs and pop you chase the melody. Yeah, because

752
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: it's more it's more about the vibe. I feel like

753
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: in pop music, you just you want to be able

754
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: to hear it and then be able to repeat it.

755
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: And um, that to me is it's fun writing both ways.

756
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: I honestly can't pick which way is my favorite, because

757
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: I don't always want to be so heavy about things

758
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: all the time either, Like sometimes I want something just

759
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: stupid and but it sounds good. Have you ever been

760
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: taken into a room to write with an artist for

761
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: them and it's a massive artist and you just stare

762
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: at them anyone that you shouldn't be staring. I always

763
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: play it overly cool with people I think are awesome,

764
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like they might be confused

765
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: if I actually know who they are kind of thing,

766
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: which is probably not cool, but um, I feel like

767
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I have to do that in order to stay in

768
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: like songwriting mode. Otherwise, if I hype them up too much,

769
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: then I'll just agree with whatever they say and that

770
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: it could turn out to be terrible. Um. It says

771
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: here that you have written with Alicia Keys, so you

772
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: were in a room with her, Yeah, would you play

773
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: it too cool? I mean she made it seems she

774
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: was so welcoming and warm and um. I kind of

775
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: took on the role as lyricist in the room because

776
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: I kind of figured out like where the holes were

777
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: in the session. So I feel like that occupied my

778
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: time and I didn't really get too caught up in

779
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: it until she until we all stepped out and she

780
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: recorded the song, and then that's when I was like,

781
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, different, Yeah, so cool, It's just so cool.

782
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: That was probably like one of my yeah because I

783
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: grew up listening to her and I think she's so talented.

784
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: Can you get a picture or do you have to

785
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: play a cool and no picture? I feel like no

786
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: picture that kind of ruins the whole. I mean, unless

787
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: they want to. Like luckily somebody suggested it. I was

788
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: going to say, if you didn't already know the move,

789
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: I was going to give you the movie because you

790
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: don't want to. This is what I happened, right, I

791
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: did said I don't. Last year, a few times i'd

792
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: be really cool people there and I'd be like, holy crap,

793
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: rivers from Wheezers here. I really got to get a picture.

794
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to go ask him for a picture,

795
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: right because I'm cool. I'm again it's that vibe. But

796
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: as we're walking out, um, they're like, youtuo, I tell

797
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: my friend you know what you too? She get a

798
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: picture together and I'm like, all right, set the whole

799
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: thing up. But you got one with Lasia Keys. Yeah

800
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: that's cool. What about Sam Hunt? Um? That was great.

801
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: He I feel like he was just getting back into songwriting. Um.

802
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: So it was which was interesting because I'm like, you

803
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: are such a great songwriter, and he was so much like,

804
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: oh is this a good idea? Like I'm not really sure.

805
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're Sam Hunt? Like what are you doing?

806
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: Did he know he was Sam Hunt though? Or did

807
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 1: your reminding him? Actually, because that's tricky if they don't

808
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: know that they're Sam Behind Because one time someone told

809
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: me I was Sam Hut and I was like, I

810
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: am the whole whole thing. He did then he then

811
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: he snapped out of it and it was fine, And

812
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: how was that? Right? Pretty cool? It was anything that

813
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: anyone ever cut. Um, I'm not sure what we're doing

814
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: with those songs. I know he's writing, have friends are

815
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: writing with him? Now? Yeah? It's just I mean, honestly,

816
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: it's such a I feel like he's in such an

817
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: interesting place creatively. I don't blame him for wanting to

818
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: take his time with what songs he wants to use.

819
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the Nashville Quick System like he should

820
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: really spend time, like a week if he wants to

821
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: on one song. You know what was interesting about your

822
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: story that I did not know is you were on

823
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: the freaking sing Off. I didn't know that. There's reason

824
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: for that. Do you like scrub it? Did you scrub

825
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: it from the internet? No, it's I mean yes, I did, no, No,

826
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: but I stop. I didn't know that. Do people ask

827
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you about that all the time? The sing off? Um?

828
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean they used to when it was like still

829
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: a thing. But so what the sing off is? For

830
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: those that are listening to this wherever you in your

831
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: car or your phone, whatever, it's an acapella show where

832
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: you got up and you compete and do acapella. Isn't

833
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: that where Pentatonic Patonas came from? Yeah, it's freaking thing off.

834
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so cool. I think that's so cool. And

835
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: your name was called pitch Slapped. Pitch Slab was the

836
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: first season I was on, and then I was in Delilah.

837
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Whit you did it? Twice you went back, Well, you're

838
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: way cooler to me. Now, that's really cool. That's awesome,

839
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I actually really enjoyed it. It It showed

840
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: like what show business was like at a younger time

841
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: in my life because I was still in college, but

842
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: it kind of showed me how things work, and it really, um,

843
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: it made me want to get out and do more

844
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: stuff because I actually enjoyed being on camera and performing.

845
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: And how many people in the group? Um and pitch slap.

846
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: We'll start with that one. Oh, I don't even know

847
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: the big group or was it like the Barber group?

848
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: That was like the Berkeley acapella group. Um, we were

849
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: only on for like one episode. More than eight people?

850
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: I I can't remember. There was a lot of us.

851
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: We just weren't like together on the show for more

852
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: than like I remember more of the second season I

853
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: was on that was Lilah. Yeah, and that's an a

854
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: girl group. How many of you were in that group?

855
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: There's eight of us? Okay, and what do you have

856
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: a specific role with the title. Oh, well, I was

857
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: the one who was always put in the most skimpy clothes,

858
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: which I hated. Okay, I meant more voice, but Okay,

859
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: we who the whole profile, but like, were you soprano? Okay, yeah,

860
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: were you the main soprano? We all switched leads. Um

861
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: Amy was the other soprano. So that was kind of

862
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: our thing we all had. We all had our Amy

863
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: sings of rock songs, Ingrid sings the emotional songs, so

864
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: you would do leads though on that. Oh that's so cool.

865
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Did you know have you ever heard of my A

866
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: buddy has an acapella group called out Here Comes Trouble. Yeah,

867
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: you're familiar with them. I am there Cornell yeah group. Yeah, yeah,

868
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: that is cool. I mean I do love acapella. It

869
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: makes you really have to like be on pitch. You

870
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: can't really can't mess up. You can't know Here it

871
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: Comes Trouble. Yeah, you can't. There's no way that when

872
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: we that's Andy Bernard from the Office and his acapella

873
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: group from Cornell, Here Comes Trouble. Oh well I thought

874
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: they had no not Cornell, but there's another group that

875
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: kind of ripped that name. Oh there is yeah, I

876
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: was just kidding. No, there is a group. I'm like,

877
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: that's his group. Yeah, I'm yeah, watch Office. Alright, you

878
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: go back and you do Delilah. You finished in sixth place.

879
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: How sad were you not to win? Um? I was

880
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: actually pretty happy because at that point we had been

881
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: there for like in a hotel for a very long time.

882
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Did you see the Pentatonics people, Yeah, we were all

883
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: we'd all hang out. Would you acapella switch and like

884
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: this with each other's group? I mean that would be

885
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: more of like an after rehearsal thing, like we're all

886
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: just messing around. Everybody jumps in and like sings. It

887
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: was actually a really fun environment. There wasn't It wasn't

888
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: really competitive at all. Everybody was just happy to be there.

889
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's that's really cool that you're an a

890
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: capella group. Yeah, I like at you. Um, you wrote

891
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: a song that was very dear to you that was

892
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: cut by someone else. He said, quote she wanted to

893
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: become an artist, record her own songs. It was like

894
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: giving away her story. That's a direct quote took from

895
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: the internet. Would you care to talk about that? Sure? Well,

896
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the name of the artist because

897
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to be mean. But McCartney, how did

898
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: you know? Go ahead? Um? Yeah, it was a song

899
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: about um my siblings and I wrote it for them

900
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: and about them, and I thought it was really special

901
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: and we were really precious with who we wanted to

902
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: give it away too. I still I was like, oh, man,

903
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, like unless it's somebody really big, Like

904
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to really give this away

905
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: for some reason. And then it just was a situation

906
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: where I didn't really have a say in it. Um

907
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: and we're so your publisher gave it away. Uh yeah,

908
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: pretty much. So I was. I mean, we were promised

909
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: that it was going to they were going to do

910
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: stuff with it, and then it just never ended up

911
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: happening the way that they said it would and the

912
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: production just turned out not great and it was just ruined.

913
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: So like I literally from that moment, I was like,

914
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever want to go through that again.

915
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: And I'll probably put it out, honestly, because I never

916
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: signed anything saying that I wouldn't put it out. Yeah,

917
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: And if you at least the Nashville rule is. For example,

918
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Eric passed Late wrote Friday Night and Lady and e

919
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Bellum cut it, put it on the record. They even

920
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: put it on the record, and they just didn't put

921
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: out as a single. So he's like, you know what,

922
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut it. I wrote it, I'm gonna cut.

923
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: He cuts it, puts out it goes number one. Huh, boom,

924
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: knowledge bomb. You didn't know that that happens. You can

925
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: people cut and then if you wrote it and recut

926
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: it if you want, well, I guess that helps if

927
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: they are not if lady is not on the song

928
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: to like writeing wise, they are not on the song right.

929
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes in popa gets a little complicated because artists will

930
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: ask for like one person of publishing even if they're

931
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: not on the song. So will they be okay? So

932
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: here's what you know this to it? I'm talking. I'm

933
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: not talking to you because you know this. When I

934
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: say you get it. I felt like you have been

935
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: insulted earlier when I did that, but I wasn't talking

936
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: to you. I like to talk directly to the people

937
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: that are listening. So there are artists in town that

938
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: I know that are shady, And I'm gonna write a

939
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: couple of words and then I'm gonna get a quarter

940
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: or a third of the song. Oh oh, you didn't

941
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: know this in town in Nashville. Huh. I'm not going

942
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: to say who they are. But I mean, I guess

943
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of clever in a terrible way. Is it clever? Though?

944
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: Because well, that's the whole songs written there, like I'm

945
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna cut it, but you know, I'm gonna change a

946
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: few words and then I In Nashville, it's all split

947
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: evenly different different writing as it is. In Los Angeles.

948
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: You write a song, you I'm not talking about you

949
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: know this. You write a song in l a ever,

950
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: you know you could get five percent of the song

951
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: depending on how much you actually gave. In Nashville, if

952
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: you write a third of it, if you just pop

953
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: on the song or three people, you get thirty three

954
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: percent the song regardless. And so there are artists that

955
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: will I go, I okay, didn't write it, but now

956
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a writer on it, change the line,

957
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: get a quarter of the song or a third of

958
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: the song. Not familiar with those artists yet, No, I

959
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: don't like that. I'm gonna say who it is, but

960
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: Robert Brooks, it's not. That's the only part that I

961
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: could That's the only cards that I could go after

962
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: the bulletproof. The first time you cried during a song

963
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: was blank um whiskey lullabye. Okay, good. You your first

964
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: song when you were what are we calling a song? Well,

965
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: it was called Getting the Mail from My Mom? And

966
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: here's the clip of it. Like, where did you find it?

967
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god? I was like, did my dad send

968
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: it to you? That would be so terrible. You were

969
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: how old when you wrote Getting the Mail for my Mom? Uh?

970
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Probably like five? That's seven here. I think you're giving

971
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: yourself a little too much credit revisionist history. Um was

972
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: I still get it? Yeah? I was. Yeah, you're right.

973
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: And now you're you're out doing what's called radio tour.

974
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: Explain that, Um it is basically me playing my songs

975
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: for um radio stations wherever like around the country, and

976
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: um yeah, just meeting them and talking with them about

977
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: my music and hoping that they play it on their station.

978
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: And how's that been for you? Good? It has been good.

979
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: It's been tiring, but that's the same for everybody. And

980
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot, for sure about the whole culture.

981
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: Do most stations have you go in the morning and

982
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: play on the air? Um? What's that split of playing

983
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: on the air, playing in a conference room, or not

984
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: playing at all. I've been playing mostly conference rooms I'll

985
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: do I've done a few radio shows, but where I

986
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: go in and play at the station, but a lot

987
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: of it has been them just wanting to see like

988
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: the setup of like me on the piano and like

989
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: meeting me and talking to me and um, which has

990
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: been great. I just sometimes get sick of hearing myself

991
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: over and over again. Is that a thing where now

992
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: you have to promote you all the time, so it's

993
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: all about you and you're going, oh my godness over me? Yeah,

994
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit, but I'm not. It's

995
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: not like I'm I'm not bored of me, but I

996
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: just kind of am. I'm like, oh my gosh, I

997
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: have to pretend like I'm saying this for the first

998
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: time and it's but I'm not. So I feel like

999
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: that's hard because I'm like a very honest person and

1000
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to hide where I'm actually feeling.

1001
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: So if I'm not really digging it, then everybody's going

1002
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: to know about it. Mm hmm. Yeah. Interviews are are

1003
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: are weird because I'm on both sides of them, like

1004
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: I'll do this with you and then I have to

1005
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: interview schedule. They're gonna interview me, and so especially if

1006
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: you do like a whole day of interviews, it's the

1007
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: same questions and over and over again, and you really

1008
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: got to present it like you've never been asked that before.

1009
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: And the worst thing to do because again, if you

1010
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: were to go, if I ask you a question, we go,

1011
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I get asked all the time, and

1012
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: you answer the question you won't even know that's like

1013
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: an insult. But but if you were to say that

1014
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, you know X Y Z question mark,

1015
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: you would go, yeah, I get asked all the time.

1016
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Here's the answer. I'm like, oh, that's a sucky question.

1017
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: So I have to be careful on doing that. On

1018
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: the other side, interesting, yeah, well you're doing a good

1019
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: job so far, I'd say, of this, yeah, thanks, this

1020
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: is like yeah, yeah, this is what I'm good at.

1021
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like I'm good at this. Thank you

1022
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: for acknowledging that, just giving you affirmation that you don't

1023
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: need it. I'm sure, no, no, I do need it

1024
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: in nineties seven percent of my life. But much like you,

1025
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: we're removing our humility card for a second. You know,

1026
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: you can hop in room with anybody and go, oh,

1027
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: I can play like I did a thing with Rolling

1028
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: Stone and I was like, I'm the second best interviewer

1029
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: in the whole world on the radio period. The only

1030
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: better person better than is Howard Stern. And like I

1031
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: feel good about saying that, not as a dick, but

1032
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: like it's just there's there. I totally get that, Thank

1033
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: you very much. What is what should everyone have that

1034
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: costs less than one um? A neck pillow? You're a

1035
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: neck pillow person on a plane? Yeah, they don't. I

1036
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: didn't work like I just end up. Well, you've got

1037
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: to rotated to where the thicker side is like under here,

1038
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: so you're not having to like crank your deck. You're

1039
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: more like this, that's really functional for you. Yeah, I

1040
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: mean like, I mean yeah, I feel like early flights,

1041
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: especially on radio tour, I just need something to pass

1042
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: out on Otherwise I'm gonna fall on the person next

1043
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: to me and probably drool all over them. Well, I'll

1044
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: go two ways here. The first way is fly on

1045
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: the window a normal I don't like having to ask

1046
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: people to go to that. That's the thing. Okay, here's

1047
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: a secondary question to that. Do you if you have

1048
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: to pee and they're asleep excuse me, or do you

1049
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: hold it? I Uh usually say excuse me when it's

1050
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: getting to the point it's after me being like, oh,

1051
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, I'll be fine, and then it's almost

1052
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: too late, and then I'm like wake up. And then

1053
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: but I've had it happened to me to where they

1054
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't wake up because I'm pretty sure they took like

1055
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: an ambient or something. It was an international flight and

1056
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: that's why I never sit at a window anymore. How

1057
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: did you get out of that? I climbed over them? Yeah, yeah,

1058
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I went through this recently and I was like what

1059
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: I got on Twitter? And I was like, what do

1060
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: I do? Asleep? And I gotta do I I don't

1061
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: want to wake them up. I wouldn't want to be

1062
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: because it's on me. I'm the one that got the

1063
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: stupid window seat, Like that's my fault. I got the window.

1064
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: But now I got a pee and so but I did.

1065
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry. What I did is

1066
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: I waited for one of them to like move their

1067
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: head a little bit, just be like and I was like, well,

1068
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: you're waiting. They weren't awake. They were like just like

1069
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: sniffling or something. And I was like, let me go.

1070
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Oh man at a great moment in my day because

1071
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: that apace so bad. Okay, the neck PI, I didn't

1072
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: know the way gonna go? But now off? Okay. What

1073
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: is the longest song you have on your playlist? Think

1074
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: about that? Oh, I don't think about that. What's your

1075
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: favorite super long song? I haven't. There aren't really many

1076
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: of them anymore. Do you have a favorite one a

1077
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: long song? Well? I think back when I was seventeen

1078
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: or eighteen doing radio and we used to have CDs

1079
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: at the radio station, and there was one song was

1080
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: five minutes and forty seconds and it was the only

1081
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: song I could run down the hong, go to the bathroom,

1082
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: and then come back in time to switch out the

1083
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: next CD. And it was Matchbox twenty Back to Good,

1084
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: and it was it was so long that when I

1085
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: hear that song still reminds me of it's like, oh

1086
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: you can relax, you go go to the go, go

1087
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. Interesting, Yeah, so match Box do you

1088
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: know the song? Mike, would you mind not hit us

1089
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: with a little Matchbox twenty back to Good? That's my

1090
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: favorite long song? There are also long song is like

1091
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven, which is before we were both born.

1092
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: But that was super long. Oh, Rob Thomas do you

1093
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: know Rob? You know even set a man called mat before. Yes,

1094
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wasn't. I'm going to now No, No, no,

1095
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: I was just some people depending on what where they grew.

1096
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Maybe we'd only know him from being Rob Thomas in

1097
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: the heads. It wasn't. There's no joke there. I was

1098
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: asking genuinely. This was Okay, what's your favorite quote? Him

1099
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: me with that, Oh my gosh, these are hard ques.

1100
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: They are hard, but take your time saidn't think what's

1101
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: your night pillow one? Take a night of brought it? Honestly, Um,

1102
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: I've only got a couple more of these tough ones.

1103
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: It's just mine stretchers favorite quote. I can't remember who

1104
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: said this. If you ain't got haters, then your ship

1105
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: ain't popping. Yeah. I believe that was me. No, that's

1106
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: good though. Yeah. Hey, are you feeling some pushback since

1107
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: you aren't what is considered super traditional country. Actually no,

1108
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: I was expecting more, and I think I'm very surprised

1109
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: so far that I haven't. But I think people are

1110
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of ready for the progression of wherever we're going

1111
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: in country music. Um, your life is a movie. At

1112
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: what point does the audience gasp most loudly? Oh? I

1113
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: mean the one thing that comes to mind is like,

1114
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: when I hit my tailbone on the side of a pool.

1115
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty cringe worthy. Is this kid

1116
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: tailbone or adult been breaking to him? Okay? Yeah, I

1117
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: feel like that's the one thing where I'm like, oh,

1118
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: that was really I will vividly remember that forever, just

1119
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: sinking to the bottom of the pool. Did someone else

1120
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna get you? Um? I think jump in and rescue you?

1121
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: At you? Let me give you one more? A lot

1122
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: of good ones here, Mike, can me with some good

1123
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: ones today? What is the single worst episode in TV history? Um?

1124
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it's got to be a murder? She wrote,

1125
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: like one of those. I feel like some of those

1126
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: get really cheesy. And Brie and I my little sister,

1127
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: were watching one the other day and I was like,

1128
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: this is just really bad, the old Angela Landsberry murder.

1129
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: She wrote, Still watching those, Yeah, I guess maybe new

1130
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: to you. They shouldn't remake that. They could remake that.

1131
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: It's an interesting show to bring back. They bring back

1132
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: everything else. I like at this we've been here an hour,

1133
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: We've done an hour. Mike whereawi? Yeah, anything you'd like

1134
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: to conclude this interview with Because a lot of new

1135
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: people are gonna be exposed to you right now for

1136
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: the first time. Would you like to say to them

1137
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: it's your speech? Oh my gosh, Oh, I don't know.

1138
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: Just just listen to my music if you want to,

1139
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: and if you don't, that's okay. To just have a

1140
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: good time. Just just have a great time. Just have

1141
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: a great time. All right? Check out? Are you able

1142
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: to and you can just say, now are you able

1143
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: to mention to me what you mentioned to me before

1144
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: we started recording? Can I bring that up? Okay? So

1145
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: today you went into your label or your management or

1146
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: what did you do? And what did you guys do?

1147
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: We picked songs that are going to be on my

1148
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: record at the top of next year, which is really cool.

1149
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: Are they all cut? Like or these songs you're listening

1150
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: to work tapes and going we're gonna cut those? Um?

1151
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: All of them sound actually probably five of them are

1152
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: pretty much done, and then the others I just want

1153
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: to reproduce because the demos I wrote them like a

1154
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: while ago, so they sound a little older, so I

1155
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: just got to redo those. The Lady Like Tour is

1156
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: in the UK September six through September six, Germany, Netherlands, Scotland.

1157
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: Ever been to those places? I have? Yeah. I played

1158
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: the CDC Festival earlier this year over in Germany, London

1159
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: and Glasgow. So but I'm excited to go to Amsterdam.

1160
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: I'll be there on my birthday. Best place to be

1161
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: on your birthday. I don't know what I'm gonna do, honestly,

1162
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: because I don't really smoke or anything, so I'll probably

1163
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: just go to the red light district and stare at

1164
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: people and get a prosperate. But listen the hookers. Oh yeah,

1165
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna be my thing. Playing a cl weekend one

1166
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: in October. Yeah, I've never been. Have you been? Oh? Yeah?

1167
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: I live in Austin still, so, Um, it's my favorite

1168
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: and you'll love it and it's amazing. Every part of

1169
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: that whole thing is awesome. A c L is great,

1170
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: Austin's the best city. Um and home to what city

1171
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: is home to you? Um? What do you say? Do

1172
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: you say Denver? Why? I say Highland's Ranch and then

1173
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: people give me a weird look, and then I say

1174
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: never interesting. Okay, there it is. We have done it.

1175
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: You're uh seth meyers cool to do? Yeah? Really cool.

1176
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: I only got to play because normally they have you

1177
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: sing it and then you have the option to do

1178
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: it again because it's like pre taped, and they only

1179
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: let me do it once. And I wanted to do

1180
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: it because it was so good? Is that why? Yes? No, really,

1181
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. They were like, that's perfect. Why

1182
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: would you do it again? Yeah? But I was pissed

1183
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: because you wait all day and then it's like three

1184
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: minutes and then it's over, and I wanted to do

1185
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: it one more time. Your dream collaboration will be with

1186
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: who is this a quiz? Did I tell you already?

1187
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember? Oh okay, I thought you were doing

1188
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: the recap thing of like, I don't think you said

1189
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: that here? Oh say it again? Maybe you did? Did

1190
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: you might know? Go ahead? Okay, dream collapse. It must

1191
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: be every other interviewer that has asked this question. We

1192
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: finally hit it. We're ending on an insult. Go ahead, sorry,

1193
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: go ahead. I feel like I really loving Louis Capaldi

1194
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: right now. He his voice is just so freaking good

1195
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: and it sounds so emotional, and I feel like he

1196
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: would make any emotional song just the best. All right,

1197
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: we've done an hour. It's it's been. I told Mike

1198
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: before he came in. I was like, some new artists

1199
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: they haven't They don't really have their message yet. They

1200
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know what not what to say, but they don't

1201
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: know what they're saying. There's a difference because you can

1202
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: learn what to say who cares, Just say what you've

1203
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: been taught to say, but what you're saying is a

1204
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: whole different deal. And Mike and I were talking about it,

1205
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: like sometimes we people come in if they're new and

1206
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: they don't really know what they're saying. But it's it's

1207
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: you know what you're saying. I like that. It's cool, confident,

1208
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: it's good, it's refreshing. So Ingrid Andrews follow her at

1209
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: Ingrid Andrew's on Instagram. You're the only Ingrid in country

1210
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: music too, I think, I think so do you get

1211
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: Ingram Michaelson there where people are like, oh, Ingrid, Yeah,

1212
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm always yeah, I'm the less famous Ingrid. Ingrid Andrews streamer.

1213
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: Check it out. Good to talk to you, Nice to

1214
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: have you over here. And there we Go, Episode one

1215
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: of the Bobby Cast with Ingrid Andres father