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Speaker 1: Dan hanzas, Greg Rosal, Mark Sesler, you know money, Money
Speaker 1: goes on the Pat McVie show yesterday and he's just like,
Speaker 1: remember when Brian Williams was the anchor of NBC and
Speaker 1: then he told that story about taking fire in Iraq
Speaker 1: and on True Story, Yes, and he's like, you know, money, Listen,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a racking tour. He knows how to
Speaker 1: tell a story. But the facts were all over the place,
Speaker 1: all over the place. Do you rick you do you
Speaker 1: have anything from that? Do you have anything? I got too?
Speaker 1: That really stood out? So this first one we start
Speaker 1: with a nice compliment, right, so here we go, Okay,
Speaker 1: look at dan Zeus's rankings and make your opinions on
Speaker 1: off Does that do you? How often do you lean
Speaker 1: on dan Zeus? Well? Look, I mean dan Zeus again,
Speaker 1: you said it. Unfortunately we've tried to keep it a secret,
Speaker 1: but you blew the top off it. You know, he
Speaker 1: scribed his scribe is a stone tablet and his pen
Speaker 1: is a lightning. That was good. That was really nice.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. That was really nice, and then McAfee
Speaker 1: followed it up with okay, like does Dan get a
Speaker 1: lot of s H I T in the comments? Like
Speaker 1: because what you do? And so this is what Money
Speaker 1: had to say. But yeah, he gets he gets absolutely
Speaker 1: wrapped in. Look, why does the commissioner make thirty eight
Speaker 1: million bucks a year because he suffers the slings and
Speaker 1: arrows for the thirty two owners? Why does Dan make
Speaker 1: probably somewhere between seventy and eighty five grands an arrow?
Speaker 1: That was really meat money? He's an asked like him though, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I know he had said he went on this
Speaker 1: long story about like how he came up with the
Speaker 1: zeuser nickname is said that bothers my dad or so
Speaker 1: I was just like, money, what where are we coming
Speaker 1: from with this stuff? If he fabricated you know what
Speaker 1: happened to Brian Williams MSNBC. He lost the chair to halt. Yeah, like, well,
Speaker 1: so have you have you talked to money? If you're so,
Speaker 1: this is just a storyteller. The stories you know, sometimes true,
Speaker 1: I don't need to be true. Yes, anyway, that was
Speaker 1: that was cool though McAfee's a fan, and um, that'd
Speaker 1: be great to get McFee on this show. I bet
Speaker 1: he would be awesome. Um all right, now we got
Speaker 1: a big show coming up. This is the week ten preview.
Speaker 1: It's also, by the way, Veterans Day, and that's important.
Speaker 1: And I know you boys, it's proud Americans like you know,
Speaker 1: you know ball like you know. For instance, the strong
Speaker 1: safety of the Houston Texans is Justin Reid. He's the
Speaker 1: pre safety Eric Murray. I knew that, didn't have to
Speaker 1: look it up. But do you know a little quiz here? Boys?
Speaker 1: The six major branches of the U. S. Military. Ricky
Speaker 1: hit me up a little dings both boys, Let's see
Speaker 1: what you got. We've got the Marines. Boom, that's one
Speaker 1: we've you want to go, Greg, you go for it.
Speaker 1: You got the Army, got it, You've got the Coast Guard,
Speaker 1: got it. You've got to You've got the Air Force,
Speaker 1: got it, You've got the Navy, got it. And I
Speaker 1: believe you've got the Merchant Marines. Okay, uh no, no,
Speaker 1: but that's great, Greg, I had all those five. What's
Speaker 1: after that? There's there's a new one that that's a
Speaker 1: little controver. Yeah, the space clactic individuals, right, came in
Speaker 1: in December two thousand ninety A little bit controversial. Some
Speaker 1: people saw it as a vanity branch of a certain
Speaker 1: I think it's you could pose leader look that some people.
Speaker 1: But those are the branches calling like a free or
Speaker 1: strong safety that's controversial in these days. Is there really
Speaker 1: any difference? I don't know. Good go to our lads
Speaker 1: dot com and you tell me it's nice to see you.
Speaker 1: UM kind of making nice with the armed forces. After
Speaker 1: the Marines dropped our television show sponsorship, which was really
Speaker 1: we they loved watching as we had a lot of
Speaker 1: great Suddenly it was gone. They had been are I
Speaker 1: think they were, as a group our biggest fans during
Speaker 1: the you know, the lockdown in the Corona time. UM,
Speaker 1: huddled up watching everything that we do. And uh yes,
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't hold it against the Marines.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's every good idea to hold things
Speaker 1: against the Marines. I do have. Both my grandfather's were
Speaker 1: m active in the military and World War Two and
Speaker 1: the Korean War, and my brother in law, Staff Sergeant
Speaker 1: Tanner Bates with the Old Guard at Fort Myers, also
Speaker 1: did multiple tours of duty in Afghanistan. That dude is
Speaker 1: a hero. I love Tanner. I think we're listening, but
Speaker 1: my grandparents as well in World War Two, and Tanner
Speaker 1: has other talents. We hung out with him during the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl week and I would just say it's not
Speaker 1: you can't put him in a military boxing Tanner and
Speaker 1: my brother still to this day the only Super Bowl
Speaker 1: guests that when we finished the Super Bowl taping at
Speaker 1: what three am and got back in the stadium, they
Speaker 1: were still ripping it at the t g I Fridays
Speaker 1: in the Minneapolis Hilton where we were staying. I mean
Speaker 1: that they were set apart as guests. I would for
Speaker 1: multiple reasons. All right, let's get into the business of today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through all the week ten action. Tonight
Speaker 1: the old Zeus sir nickname I came up with, UM
Speaker 1: will be recapping Thursday night football Ravens and Dolphins. Check
Speaker 1: that out. I got a special guest that will be
Speaker 1: joining us that is connected to the Miami football team.
Speaker 1: We have the Bears, Bengals, Giants, and Texans on by.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all of it, but let's start
Speaker 1: with the big news that came down this morning. Thursday
Speaker 1: Morning Cam Newton's back with the Panthers. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is wild. He has agreed to a deal with Carolina.
Speaker 1: UM and the deal, pending a physical at this time,
Speaker 1: is worth up to ten million for the remainder remainder
Speaker 1: of the season, including four and a half million guaranteed
Speaker 1: and a one and a half million roster bonus. And uh, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the face of the Panthers, the most famous
Speaker 1: Panther ever, the former number one overall pick, the former
Speaker 1: m v P took him to a Super bowlsheit of
Speaker 1: dope on that bumble, But we're not going to dwell
Speaker 1: on that. But ultimately, Greg, isn't this been dwelling on
Speaker 1: it for six years? I know, but you gotta get
Speaker 1: on the ground. Um. Isn't this ultimately, Greg? And maybe
Speaker 1: this is the right move. Sam Donald's hurt with a
Speaker 1: busted shoulder. Um, kind of an indictment of the entire
Speaker 1: situation in Caroline a little bit. How are we back
Speaker 1: to cam uh, just two years after you kind of
Speaker 1: kissed them off and said we'll be better without you
Speaker 1: because they've made terrible decisions. I don't think Teddy was
Speaker 1: a truly terrible decision. I don't think so either, but
Speaker 1: they moved off him. Giving him a second year guaranteed
Speaker 1: was was not a great idea, especially if you were
Speaker 1: going to get off them to downgrade significantly to Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: Because it's funny. If you put Teddy with this team
Speaker 1: in this defense, they're probably like a fringe playoff team,
Speaker 1: like that would have been enough. And I think they
Speaker 1: look at this defense that they now, which is really good,
Speaker 1: and they think, let's try to win games. I've seen
Speaker 1: people say, what's the point of signing Cam Newton now,
Speaker 1: Like you're not going anywhere. He's just gonna maybe hurt
Speaker 1: your draft picks. Like, if I'm gonna be involved in
Speaker 1: a sporting activity, how about we try to win the
Speaker 1: games that were playing. He's clearly an upgrade on Sam
Speaker 1: Darnald I've never seen I've only seen p J. Walker
Speaker 1: start one game. He's very likely a big upgrade on
Speaker 1: p J. Walker. So let Walker start this week. Uh
Speaker 1: see what happens. It's fun it, maybe it's worth it,
Speaker 1: even for the social media content alone. I mean they're
Speaker 1: going that. It feels driven by by that to some degree.
Speaker 1: I mean, this team is kind of freaking me out
Speaker 1: at this point because this was a playoff team. In
Speaker 1: my book, I thought they would be. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was going a little bit yes, but but I think
Speaker 1: from a large walker and darn I really think that's
Speaker 1: the micro but from a macro angle, this is a
Speaker 1: front office slash coaching staff slash ownership group that gave
Speaker 1: the Jets six round pick and a second in four
Speaker 1: four Donald, who was a total risk to begin with,
Speaker 1: and one of the biggest moves that David Tepper, a
Speaker 1: powerful owner, made when he when he showed up, was
Speaker 1: basically to say, we are moving on from Cam Newton
Speaker 1: and it's just super odd that he's back in the building.
Speaker 1: A little bit awkward, you think for Cam too, But
Speaker 1: at the same time Cam couldn't find a job, so
Speaker 1: Cam said yeah. But also like these are the same
Speaker 1: people that kicked out the door. Tepper wasn't the owner
Speaker 1: when Cam was a star there, Rule wasn't the coach,
Speaker 1: and they said, we are moving on to a new
Speaker 1: era of Panther's football. You're not good enough anymore. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find Teddy Bridgewater. He'll be better than you. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna find Sam Donald. He'll be better than you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to trade for Matthew Stafford, he'd be
Speaker 1: better than and all that stuff has fallen through and
Speaker 1: now you've got Cam. So it's still a band aid. Though,
Speaker 1: let's look at it. Let's let's be honest. They are
Speaker 1: going to go all out next year again looking for
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and I think they're gonna either it's a
Speaker 1: we don't we don't know anything about the draft at
Speaker 1: this stage, especially this room. But like, this is not
Speaker 1: to be a great quarterback draft class. But I would
Speaker 1: be stunned if the Panthers don't make a hardcore move
Speaker 1: for either Deshaun Watson or somebody else, because I think
Speaker 1: this has become an embarrassing situation for the organizam. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I have to look at what players they passed on
Speaker 1: in the draft at the quarterback position. They supposedly love
Speaker 1: Macs eight games though, and it'll be seven. I guess
Speaker 1: that camp like that's a long time. You know, you're
Speaker 1: not promised anything in this world that they're looking for
Speaker 1: a seven seed. They're looking to have some fun. I
Speaker 1: think Cam Newton fits pretty well into what matt Rule
Speaker 1: does getting rid of the ball quickly. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of short stuff used his athleticism. I thought
Speaker 1: he looked better and the reports were better for what
Speaker 1: it's worth this offseason and in the preseason then he
Speaker 1: did a year ago. I think Bill Belichick absolutely gave
Speaker 1: him a big endorsement behind the scenes, uh to Matt Rule,
Speaker 1: and I think that probably made made some difference in
Speaker 1: Matt Rule. Who got vaccinated? Oh yeah, that was good. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's hear from Rule real quick on why they made
Speaker 1: this move. My jobs to try to win, right our
Speaker 1: our fans aren't paying money to watch us try to
Speaker 1: win in two years. That being said, you're also trying
Speaker 1: to build a super Bowl caliber team. So it's this,
Speaker 1: it's this balancing act of doing what's right long term
Speaker 1: will also trying to win at the same time, and
Speaker 1: many times those are the same thing. So that's what
Speaker 1: he said. We're trying to get better this year. But
Speaker 1: everybody knows that Cam is not their quarterback of the future,
Speaker 1: unless which would be really funny if he plays lights
Speaker 1: he gets in the lineup next week or whatever plays
Speaker 1: lights out and then they give him an extension. That
Speaker 1: would be amazing. Don't do that, all right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the Panthers a little bit later,
Speaker 1: they're playing the Cards. Uh this week they won Cardinals
Speaker 1: best team in football. But let's start with the primetime games.
Speaker 1: The Kansas City chief Chiefs at Las Vegas Raiders Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football at Llegiance Stadium in Vegas, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: this feels like another test. I like all these like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they're always in prime time, or they've got
Speaker 1: Tony Romo involved, or you know, they're everything that they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out is happening in front of the world,
Speaker 1: it seems like. And now here's another big test. Mark.
Speaker 1: This is not an easy game. Vegas plays well at home.
Speaker 1: They've had success in prime time this season against other
Speaker 1: good teams. Uh. And the Chiefs very much still, even
Speaker 1: with their defense being better lately, are trying to figure
Speaker 1: things out and it's tough to do in the middle
Speaker 1: of November. Yeah, I kind of just feel like we're
Speaker 1: never going to come to grips with what the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are this season. And I have become on the flip side,
Speaker 1: just fascinated with the journey of Derek Carr, someone that
Speaker 1: highly annoyed me for most of his career. I've just
Speaker 1: never been into the experience the same the way that
Speaker 1: you have Dan. But if they can prevent the typical
Speaker 1: Raiders swoon with Pisaccia's bump, then uh, don't say it
Speaker 1: like that, well disrespectful. I mean, it's the Baccy bump. Okay,
Speaker 1: well you've said I like that. I like that, But
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be well, that's how I speak.
Speaker 1: That's just how I speak. But I think if you're
Speaker 1: a Kansas City though, I mean, part of it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Patrick Mahomes. It's the defense was such
Speaker 1: a mess in the last couple of games, Like especially
Speaker 1: last week. I thought, you're getting pass rush, you're getting
Speaker 1: you're getting pressure on the quarterback, and they've improved a
Speaker 1: little bit on that side of the ball, and that helps.
Speaker 1: I don't I just I see them as an average
Speaker 1: middle of the road team. They get Clyde Edwards, a
Speaker 1: layer back that they've said he's looked great in practice.
Speaker 1: I think that matters a lot for them to get
Speaker 1: him back. Well will they use him though, Like, will
Speaker 1: they take advantage of what they do best, which at
Speaker 1: this point is run blocking. Like it's so funny that
Speaker 1: we spent the whole offseason talking about their offensive line.
Speaker 1: Can they solve it? And then that's all they were
Speaker 1: focused on. Don't worry about anything else. Let's just worry
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. The offensive line looks great, like
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey is one of the best draft picks in
Speaker 1: the league. They're they're all run blocking well. Orlando Brown
Speaker 1: other than that one game against Myles Garrett's been fine
Speaker 1: and it's a big mashing group, and yet they don't
Speaker 1: really use them that way. Like will Andy Reid actually
Speaker 1: run at the Raiders, because that is to me, how
Speaker 1: you attack the Raiders. Let me ask you, like, the
Speaker 1: one person that's received zero critique during this Kansas City
Speaker 1: swoon autumn is Andy Reid. Do you do you think
Speaker 1: that Andy Reid should get a little bit more what's
Speaker 1: happened because they've been stubborn and they just haven't been
Speaker 1: able to figure it out. I mean, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: their players aren't playing as well. You know what worried
Speaker 1: me about last week's game was when Reid talked about
Speaker 1: the last drive and last throw really from Mahomes and
Speaker 1: he was like, that was a vintage throw and drive
Speaker 1: from Kelsey Mahomes in Tyreek Kill. It's like, who are
Speaker 1: we talking about that? You need to be saying it's
Speaker 1: a vintage drive. This guy's twenty five and is one
Speaker 1: of the greatest players and then like young players in
Speaker 1: NFL history, and we're having to say we're getting vintage drive.
Speaker 1: Teams changed though all the time. They were like a
Speaker 1: top five team in terms of yards per play in
Speaker 1: the first month and they've been almost at the bottom
Speaker 1: in the last month, so they could change again. It
Speaker 1: is stunning that we're Patrick Mahomes is now at the
Speaker 1: point where he's having to answer questions about his playing
Speaker 1: style and if he's still gonna takes shots down field
Speaker 1: and be the guy he was. I don't think we
Speaker 1: know who they are because they've been so different even
Speaker 1: within this season. I think it's the biggest surprise of
Speaker 1: the year, the Chiefs having so much trouble moving the
Speaker 1: ball and being explosive on the raider side of things,
Speaker 1: so you know they're coming off a loss against the Giants,
Speaker 1: just such a listen. The gruten thing was one situation,
Speaker 1: the Henry Ruggs tragedy, that was a whole other thing
Speaker 1: that was dropped in the lap of this team and
Speaker 1: going on the road to face the Giants, I kind
Speaker 1: of just say, Okay, let's see where they're at now.
Speaker 1: They're back home. Uh, they have de Sean Jackson on
Speaker 1: the team. I like this quote, by the way, after
Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson got unhappy in l A. It's really not
Speaker 1: about myself at this point. I'm I'm not asking to
Speaker 1: get the ball a hundred times. I'm not asking to
Speaker 1: play a percent. Whatever the role is that fits, just
Speaker 1: let me play it to the best of my ability.
Speaker 1: So the Raids. The Raiders have Jackson in this Ruggs
Speaker 1: position as their downfield threat. We'll see if that makes
Speaker 1: a difference. I like that Darren Waller was back in
Speaker 1: the mix and a more profound way against the Giants.
Speaker 1: It was a disappointing game for their offense, but I
Speaker 1: thought they've gotten away from Walton Waller strangely this year.
Speaker 1: Like his first game of the season, they targeted him
Speaker 1: nineteen times, which was extreme. That crazy win over Baltimore,
Speaker 1: I thought it was fitting. I mean, and then you're thinking,
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna break every record for tight ends and
Speaker 1: he's kind of been off the radar for them, and
Speaker 1: but he wasn't on Sunday eleven targets seven nine two
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Keep Waller involved. He's your best offensive players.
Speaker 1: They've they've dnked and dunk the last two weeks out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, car under six average at the target after
Speaker 1: he was bombed away the whole year. So I hope
Speaker 1: that's not for good. They did score thirty five a
Speaker 1: game in two games against the Chiefs last year. I
Speaker 1: kind of liked the Raiders in this game. If I
Speaker 1: had to take um their offensive line, I thoughts played
Speaker 1: a little better. But but the Rugs thing, it's hard
Speaker 1: to talk about, but it's so significant, not just because yeah,
Speaker 1: they this guy's life is is forever changed, and the
Speaker 1: and the woman that he killed forever change, but like
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his like he's going to jail, like
Speaker 1: his life as he thought it was his over and
Speaker 1: all these people on the team know that and they're
Speaker 1: gonna play through that. But just from like what he
Speaker 1: meant to them on the field, he was really significant.
Speaker 1: He was exactly what they wanted him to be this year.
Speaker 1: He was playing great. He was close to prime de
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson, which was like what they hoped for out
Speaker 1: of him. I think that's lost a little because you
Speaker 1: can't replace that speed. They Brian Edwards was a little
Speaker 1: bit of a mess trying to go into that role
Speaker 1: last week, and and that that part of the equation
Speaker 1: I think is significant that you're not you're not replacing
Speaker 1: him either as a player, and that does change who
Speaker 1: they are. All right, Let's move on to Monday night football.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams, coming off that humbling loss to
Speaker 1: the Gravers, their name and great branding. Yeah, head to
Speaker 1: Santa Clara, great news. Anybody that wants to get a
Speaker 1: w head to the San Francisco forty Niners home stadium
Speaker 1: to face the forty Niners. This the Niners last stand.
Speaker 1: And for the Shanna heads out, the Kyle heads out there,
Speaker 1: the Shannahan heads, the shan stands, Shannis stands. Nice. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a mean kind of like like oh
Speaker 1: really okay, I mean a good one. Good job mark
Speaker 1: for the Shanni stands out there. This is a big
Speaker 1: one because if the Rams come into your building and
Speaker 1: embarrass you and drop you to three and six, uh,
Speaker 1: and you you look as bad as you did last
Speaker 1: week when Arizona played its backups and beat you in
Speaker 1: your building. You're gonna hear. I'm not saying he's on
Speaker 1: the hot seat Kyle Shanahan, but it it starts to
Speaker 1: exit the realm of impossible. To me, if if this
Speaker 1: thing really takes a turn and that could happen in
Speaker 1: primetime on Monday Night, I'm with you, I don't know
Speaker 1: what hot seat would mean, except I think that the
Speaker 1: shots could be fired. I don't. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any scenario. I think the afterwon. Look what happened before
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan was there. They had a series of one
Speaker 1: year coaches who totally failed. I think that they I
Speaker 1: think he's safe, but I would say that we are
Speaker 1: now at a point where like the think pieces on
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan have turned into ripe and open critique of
Speaker 1: a number of things they've done. I think if you
Speaker 1: look at the DeForest Buckner trade that didn't really work out,
Speaker 1: they went and got Javon kin Law who had a
Speaker 1: knee injured, knee issues coming into the league, and it
Speaker 1: is out with knee injuries right now. Like who are
Speaker 1: the leaders on this team? Like that? Who who is
Speaker 1: holding anyone accountable? And I we we don't have an
Speaker 1: eye in on some of that stuff. But I'm just
Speaker 1: looking around the Niners roster and wondering what that's about.
Speaker 1: And I think it starts also, and it's sometimes just
Speaker 1: this simple. You had a master plan at quarterback. It
Speaker 1: is mid November, and it looks like no plan. It
Speaker 1: just looks like there's an absence of a plan. And
Speaker 1: I get that they wanted to They've been real about
Speaker 1: wanting to just use Jimmy g as long as they can,
Speaker 1: But I don't know what that tells the rest of
Speaker 1: your team either. I think that they're just a discombobulated mess,
Speaker 1: and they're getting a RAMS team that was totally out muscled,
Speaker 1: out physical and beaten up by the Titans last week.
Speaker 1: A Titans team that had like a hundred under two
Speaker 1: hund yards on offense. It wasn't so much the Rams defense,
Speaker 1: but that was I wonder if you're the Rams, because
Speaker 1: you can afford a loss here and there, a wake
Speaker 1: up call to some degree, and it's not going to
Speaker 1: happen two weeks in a row. I thought you were
Speaker 1: about to lock it up there? Am I allowed to
Speaker 1: lock it up? There's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of games that are not lucky. This week while locking
Speaker 1: up the Rams. Wow the Shanistan wait till you were
Speaker 1: until I asked if well I like that one? Because
Speaker 1: the other thing is the Niners have lost eleven of
Speaker 1: twelve home games, all changes on Monday night because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna no, I'm not going to but that is notable
Speaker 1: that you want to talk about the most shocking things
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs offense being earthbound Cessler locking up
Speaker 1: against Shanahan on the road on Monday night in November.
Speaker 1: I never thought i'd see the thing you have to
Speaker 1: turn with evil Sometimes you and I are a top
Speaker 1: the lock stand. You've got to get sinister. You're not
Speaker 1: alone either, are yuh? Wait? Hello heroes, let's Phil again
Speaker 1: this week, and we were going to set the Westley
Speaker 1: brothers lock situation straight. It goes like this. Nick sends
Speaker 1: out a group text to the brothers and we throw
Speaker 1: out suggestions and then Nick pretty much does whatever the
Speaker 1: hell he wants. After year, we haven't used one of
Speaker 1: Eddie's locks all season. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, there isn't
Speaker 1: Eddie Westley. Lots of time, don't even though who we're
Speaker 1: gonna lock. And to listen to the pod that being said,
Speaker 1: they agree with me this week and we are locking
Speaker 1: the Rams over the forty niners. They won't lose two
Speaker 1: in a row. Shout out to Phil from Australia who
Speaker 1: sent the swag and let her to Ricky. Classy moved
Speaker 1: from down Under until next time he'd the call nice.
Speaker 1: He thought, I'm a good company you are. I like
Speaker 1: the pick. I do think that you can make the
Speaker 1: case at least that this is like the last thing
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon has, which is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: mastery over Sean McVeigh. They've killed them the last two years.
Speaker 1: They want and they've pushed them around. I think they've
Speaker 1: stafford but fair enough right, but they've partly done it
Speaker 1: because they're so big upfront. And you asked, like, where
Speaker 1: are the leaders on this team for San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: think it's supposed to be on defense, and that's gotten
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle. Their mediocre on defense right now.
Speaker 1: Fred Warner, big big time player, not having a great year.
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa should be one of their leaders. Good but
Speaker 1: not great year. Eric Armstead one of the highest paid
Speaker 1: players on the team. They're so banged up at cornerback
Speaker 1: that that's where you just think the Rams are just
Speaker 1: gonna have so many mismatches and this is the time
Speaker 1: to beat them. But when I've watched these two teams
Speaker 1: play in the past, it's kind of been like the big, tough,
Speaker 1: physical team against a lighter weight offensive line in the Rams,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's worked. That's worked out pretty well for
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. It like did for the time. Jordan
Speaker 1: Rod was gonna say, she just tweeted that I will say,
Speaker 1: after a couple of conversations today, I'm getting a strong
Speaker 1: sense that the Rams are very much in play for
Speaker 1: OH b J. Nothing certain yet, obviously, but they're in this.
Speaker 1: There there's another little nugget to that She Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: about OH b J, and she tweeted that. She said
Speaker 1: that he had the biggest grin when responding, and he
Speaker 1: basically said, I'm focused on the Niners less as in
Speaker 1: less sneed. The GM is always doing work behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: So like, here's what I've learned from the O b
Speaker 1: J sweep steaks that he doesn't care who he talks to.
Speaker 1: I mean, whoever their representative is, We'll talk to everyone.
Speaker 1: It's the spray method. It's like on Contra when you've
Speaker 1: got the spray machine gun. There's about fifteen different reporters
Speaker 1: all saying a ton of different teams. And here's the
Speaker 1: other part that I can I I'm it's a prediction.
Speaker 1: But he's not getting good money. No one's offering him
Speaker 1: a good contract. That's why he's still a free agent
Speaker 1: three days into it. Like he's if he got an
Speaker 1: offer that he wanted, it would have taken it two
Speaker 1: days ago. Can hear him though, versus you're hearing the Saints.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the Saints for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. Like this kind of fits, That's all I'd say.
Speaker 1: That would be so beautiful. That would be so beautiful.
Speaker 1: If he barked his way out of Cleveland, so you
Speaker 1: don't want to play for Baker and then he plays
Speaker 1: for Trevor So I mean, I means Hill, that's not happening.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play somewhere with a big time quarterback. I
Speaker 1: might go up and talk with him if he winds
Speaker 1: up with the Rams ten feet from our work lass, right, Greg,
Speaker 1: I'll indulge your hyperbole. You're saying that the Niners finished
Speaker 1: three and fourteen this year with losses to Jacksonville and Houston,
Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan is. I think he would stay safe.
Speaker 1: Just knowing the history of Jed York, their owner, how
Speaker 1: much he buys into Kyle Shanahan, maybe John Lynch like
Speaker 1: maybe things could change or they take away certain power.
Speaker 1: I think he is in it to win it and
Speaker 1: would give him that one. How about this, Let's say
Speaker 1: Trey Lance a week from now is the start of
Speaker 1: the rest of the season and he's a disaster and
Speaker 1: they go three and thirteen and you've given up everything.
Speaker 1: This is like the worst POSSI not scenario. But even then,
Speaker 1: I think they've got a chance. They're not going three
Speaker 1: and fourteen, But that Trey Lance now is the only
Speaker 1: thing that's keeping his job security, and that's gives him
Speaker 1: a year. I think Jimmy's played his best two games
Speaker 1: of the season in a row, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what's complicated uh bench in him. But I think if
Speaker 1: they lost this game, that would be there too complicated.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's take a break and then get
Speaker 1: to the draft. All right, here we go. It's the draft.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we mentioned the lock standings. Greggy
Speaker 1: Mark and Dan atop the standings at seven and two,
Speaker 1: the Westling Brothers at six and three, the Listeners five
Speaker 1: and for Greggy at three and six. Hurting, Ricky Uh
Speaker 1: sacrificed herself, fell in the old grenade, locked out of
Speaker 1: the Panthers last week lockoff win for the Zeus or
Speaker 1: she falls to two and six. She wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: play one week because Greg was the patriarchy that I know,
Speaker 1: But if you look at their two records, that seems
Speaker 1: like it might have been the next level move by
Speaker 1: Greg because she could have been tied with him. My
Speaker 1: my locks right now are like that season for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys after they won back to back titles and then
Speaker 1: they got the White House, which they called just it
Speaker 1: was basically some house they partied in, did a lot
Speaker 1: of drugs and they called it the White House. And
Speaker 1: that that's that's what's happening to you, I guess I
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the some championships to dirt. Good thing
Speaker 1: there's no drug testing. Um, all right, let's get to
Speaker 1: the draft. Greg, you have the first pick, and I
Speaker 1: could jump you one last time this season. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it here though, just letting you know I can
Speaker 1: I have that I could and I could take kind
Speaker 1: of drapes over everything. Greg does that power, and I
Speaker 1: could take um the Browns Patriots. I would welcome to you,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to I want Seahawks, Packers. I
Speaker 1: want the Narrative Bowl. I want Aaron Rodgers returning from
Speaker 1: the COVID. Let's we'll assume everyone's assuming that he is
Speaker 1: uh he. He can't get eligible until Saturday, so we
Speaker 1: won't know for sure. But I want Aaron Rodgers, perhaps
Speaker 1: one last time in this really underrated NFC rivalry of
Speaker 1: the last decade, one of the defining ones they've They've
Speaker 1: had some classic games. It's like the two maybe best
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFC, along with Breeze, or the last
Speaker 1: second Russ is returning, Rogers is back. Maybe they're maybe
Speaker 1: they're just gonna trade teams in the off season, like
Speaker 1: Rogers for Wilson, who says no, I would do it
Speaker 1: from both sides if if if Russell Wilson made it,
Speaker 1: the Packers would do it in a second, right. I
Speaker 1: guess the Seahawks only would if if Russell Wilson was
Speaker 1: making their lives so uncomfortable and saying like he won't return.
Speaker 1: Mark Remember when we were getting absolutely destroyed this summer
Speaker 1: for even insinuating that Aaron Rodgers might be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a pain in the ass, right, because if
Speaker 1: it's not that, it's we're getting killed for something else.
Speaker 1: But that was, that was I'm not saying that we
Speaker 1: should take a victory lap for that, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying everyone now acting surprised that he's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a pain in the ass. I think we have
Speaker 1: a good read on people dan in general, and in
Speaker 1: that case, we were, you know, targets locked, and yet
Speaker 1: that was not a victory lap. But you know, but
Speaker 1: don't you don't you think like Russell Wilson is so
Speaker 1: mad right now that he is like the B or
Speaker 1: C story of this game. He has been chronic lean
Speaker 1: his UH recovery from injury day by day. They set
Speaker 1: it up at a way it was so easy to
Speaker 1: see what he was gonna be out from like eight
Speaker 1: to ten weeks. They have used the word miraculous repeatedly
Speaker 1: UH to talk about his recovery. He's been like doing
Speaker 1: like if the Seahawks even wanted to like raise any
Speaker 1: question of whether he was playing this week, he didn't
Speaker 1: allow it because like he had videos on from like
Speaker 1: the room where he gets cleared, and uh. I love that,
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that the Packers have owned
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in this rivalry in Lambeau. Obviously you remember
Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game, which is one of the most
Speaker 1: painful Packers losses of all time. But in general, the
Speaker 1: Packers have been better here and they've been very resourceful.
Speaker 1: To me, this is just like a classic regular like
Speaker 1: Week ten regular season game, because that would have been
Speaker 1: my pick if you didn't pick it. I think it's
Speaker 1: uh because beyond the um Aaron Rodgers drama, beyond the
Speaker 1: fact that Russell Wilson's back, this makes sense. Like Mark,
Speaker 1: for instance, you stuck a fork in the Seahawks, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I think Seattle's got a run
Speaker 1: in them. I think they'll be sparked by the turn
Speaker 1: to Wilson. I think their defense was always gonna probably
Speaker 1: get better, uh, and they had a nice get right
Speaker 1: game into there by and I expect the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: to make a run, so that sets up well for
Speaker 1: this to be a really fun game to watch. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with Green Bay, but I think
Speaker 1: this is a field goal game. I think you're missing
Speaker 1: something about that fork that I stuck in Seattle, that
Speaker 1: the tenants of that deal where that I would send
Speaker 1: a large, a large s a financial contribution to the
Speaker 1: Seattle based my little pony, uh group, which I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to do that, So I did something rash. Well,
Speaker 1: you are the vice president of that. I don't belong
Speaker 1: to the board. I'm not part of the group. I
Speaker 1: just I like that. My motive was, you know, not
Speaker 1: what you think they were. They were competitive with with Gino,
Speaker 1: which I mean coming off and we're still talking about
Speaker 1: a point and you just played three games where they
Speaker 1: could have gone three and o with their backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: They have figured out things on defense. The idea that
Speaker 1: this defense was a total tire fire feels like it's
Speaker 1: old news now. The seventh best defense on third down,
Speaker 1: they've allowed twenty points to the Saints and Jaguars. They
Speaker 1: have They did this last year a little bit. And
Speaker 1: I just get that feeling that that Jamal Adams interception
Speaker 1: it's coming at some point, it's coming. Stout talking about
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams fair enough. Uh. The problem with Russell Wilson is,
Speaker 1: like you saying he overplayed his hand. He should have
Speaker 1: failed it. Um, it just was a little bit too
Speaker 1: like obvious from the jump that this is how it's
Speaker 1: gonna play. I don't know how he could have done
Speaker 1: a better job shielding it, but I don't know. I
Speaker 1: liked I like the quote he had. He had he
Speaker 1: got the pin taken out of the finger, washed it down, thankfully,
Speaker 1: took a picture of it and on Instagram, no more pin.
Speaker 1: Time to win. The first thing I thought I saw
Speaker 1: it is I was funny. I want to know what
Speaker 1: the pin looks like before it's been washed. It's got
Speaker 1: to be quite a sight. You have some we're just
Speaker 1: some stuff going on. What you want to look at
Speaker 1: that pen? You want to you want the gore? I
Speaker 1: want to see what it really saying. He knows what
Speaker 1: they look like? Well, yeah, here he is. Graver is
Speaker 1: on top of the world lately. I'm not the only
Speaker 1: person that thinks that I must for the most dynamic man.
Speaker 1: And we just we haven't been really piecing it together
Speaker 1: untill now. What he heard his hand, Doctor Graver, what
Speaker 1: do you know about this? I broke my wrists in
Speaker 1: half when I was thirteen, and my parents are nostalgic
Speaker 1: people and keep things. And we still have the pins
Speaker 1: from that, and I could tell you exactly what they
Speaker 1: look like. They aren't pretty, No, they're pretty gross. Let's
Speaker 1: get together after the show and just well, this is
Speaker 1: before Instagram or maybe in the early stages. Did you
Speaker 1: have some type of no more pin time to win
Speaker 1: posting after it came out? I wish I should have,
Speaker 1: but no, alright, good, all right, let's move on to
Speaker 1: the second pick. I'm annoyed, Greg, but I respect the game.
Speaker 1: The reason why I thought I was getting it because
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go get Saints at Titans,
Speaker 1: but you didn't. But I will graver keep the headset
Speaker 1: on because we've got a touch base with you. Kevin Bayer,
Speaker 1: he really he went out of his way and he
Speaker 1: did the athlete thing where he kinda negged you a
Speaker 1: little bit. But you put out some film study of
Speaker 1: his tremendous gameplay of late and he came back and
Speaker 1: what did he right exactly with the quote retweet He
Speaker 1: gave me a this is actually pretty accurate. That's about
Speaker 1: as good as the Cats. That's as good from for
Speaker 1: for somebody that you never played the game for him
Speaker 1: to say this is actually pretty accurate. That's good. Check
Speaker 1: out Graverman on Twitter at Titans Film Room. See how
Speaker 1: we're plugged in on you, buddy. Um I would So
Speaker 1: the Titans are seven and two. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: mess around here. I'm locking up the Titans this week,
Speaker 1: Graver because I just love where they're at. I feel
Speaker 1: like the Saints are in a vulnerable spot right now
Speaker 1: where they need a lot of things to go right
Speaker 1: behind center Alvin Kamara is banged up, Uh, they're going
Speaker 1: on the road. That this Tennessee team is playing with
Speaker 1: such purpose and such confidence, and that I feel like
Speaker 1: New Orleans is catching them at the wrong time. Where
Speaker 1: do you come down on this? I kind of agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tougher game because New
Speaker 1: Orleans defense is good and the Titans didn't even try
Speaker 1: to throw downfield last week because the old line was
Speaker 1: banged up. But if you get Taylor the one back,
Speaker 1: you get Nate Davis back on the offensive line, they
Speaker 1: could be in a good spot. I really think this
Speaker 1: Titans d line needs a nickname because they're just dominating
Speaker 1: up front. And the one that I like most that
Speaker 1: we've seen on Twitter is the Tennessee tickle monsters? Can
Speaker 1: we make this a thing? Tennessee? Why are they the
Speaker 1: tickle monsters? Because they just like harass you to the
Speaker 1: point where you like want them to get off you
Speaker 1: and you're pushing them away or well, let's workshop it.
Speaker 1: That's a good start. That's a good starting point. Do
Speaker 1: you think that if you were to tweet that at
Speaker 1: them and they'd say, this is you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get pro Kevin Byard responses to that. It feels a
Speaker 1: little cuddly. It does. But like purple people Eaters was
Speaker 1: a big name, and that's kind of yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: eating They're like legit, they're eating people. That's yeah, like
Speaker 1: that you can playoff Titans. It's also a very big
Speaker 1: defensive line. I mean, I know every defensive line is big,
Speaker 1: but they're especially big just their size and girth. So
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons girth um. So the Titans had um in
Speaker 1: Week nine, They had twenty eight points, but those those
Speaker 1: interceptions by Stafford really obviously played a big role in
Speaker 1: that they had a hundred total yards um only sixteen
Speaker 1: first downs season lows across the board. So what do
Speaker 1: you see mark with the Titans here, do you have
Speaker 1: concerns about them moving the ball? Uh? In this spot
Speaker 1: against the good New Orleans defense played a good Rams defense,
Speaker 1: but yes, because it was an aberration to some degree
Speaker 1: from what you'd expect from them on that side. Though,
Speaker 1: I I still believe that another week without Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: will help, you know, Ryan Tannehill and friends sort through
Speaker 1: some of their issues. But the Saints are third overall
Speaker 1: in defensive hit it we got all right, you guys.
Speaker 1: This from Ian Rapp Report. Free agent wide receiver Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Is currently finalizing a deal with the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Rams Los Angeles Rams. I mean, how how is
Speaker 1: their salary cap? And like what you're maybe what you're
Speaker 1: saying is right, Greg that he just it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be big money and they still find a way to
Speaker 1: squeeze him in. So he now joins a wide di
Speaker 1: shever group as Cooper cup who's had all World production,
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Van Jefferson, Deshan Jackson left obviously, uh, and
Speaker 1: now Odell Beckham fits in kind of is he going
Speaker 1: to get the Is he gonna get the volume that
Speaker 1: he needs to stay happy? That would be my obvious question.
Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't go there unless uh you believed it,
Speaker 1: you know, like like unless you we're okay with that.
Speaker 1: It's it's something else for it suddenly puts Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: into an interesting place because there's gonna be NonStop microscope
Speaker 1: action on how that, how that plays out. I hope
Speaker 1: it doesn't change any of the dynamic between Stafford and
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and this offense was working really well, So
Speaker 1: it's an X factor, I'm not I think it's of
Speaker 1: the landing spots they mentioned. I think it's a good
Speaker 1: one for him to have be on a team that
Speaker 1: could be there'll be a playing team. We're not going
Speaker 1: to be like crazy, crazy productive. Like if he could
Speaker 1: match what Robert Woods has been doing, which is like
Speaker 1: on pace for a thousand yards season, to me, that
Speaker 1: would be a win that you add that to the mix,
Speaker 1: because right Robert Robert Woods probably lose a little, Higbee
Speaker 1: loses a little, but there's only so many yards to
Speaker 1: go around. And uh, I think he's going there to
Speaker 1: show that, you know, to to to go win and
Speaker 1: to get the shine of being from the rams maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit like like the Bucks Wide receivers did
Speaker 1: a good job last year. I think being selfless and
Speaker 1: playing for a team and seeing their numbers go to
Speaker 1: chapter had at first not I I'm sorry that alright
Speaker 1: Ian had the report as well, so that is that's
Speaker 1: another They're a fun team, the Rams. Whether you like
Speaker 1: him or hate him, or I think that this is
Speaker 1: a good strategy ultimately or not. They're just like we're
Speaker 1: going to collect as many assets as possible, all these
Speaker 1: guys and and see if it all comes together. That's interesting,
Speaker 1: all right. And and I bet he's getting paid almost nothing,
Speaker 1: which is crazy that he I don't think he will
Speaker 1: find making four million for nothing for the right. Any
Speaker 1: decision he made was about not just to be on
Speaker 1: one team this season for the end of the year,
Speaker 1: that he wants to have a long term relationship potentially
Speaker 1: with Rams. I love it though, because I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just a It adds a lot of like value
Speaker 1: I think to watching the Rams and everything, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, go for it, just like make make our
Speaker 1: lives more interesting. I don't care if it blow like
Speaker 1: if it blows up, it's not gonna harm me either way.
Speaker 1: It's interesting copy because you saw the last guy that
Speaker 1: was a star veteran of the past, Deshan Jackson. He said,
Speaker 1: I can't take it. I need to have a front
Speaker 1: facing role at this offense, and he walked. Odell has
Speaker 1: already done that once. That's an interesting place for him.
Speaker 1: We have replayed us to Sean Jackson with Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: That's good front office, right, and just think of like
Speaker 1: the mismatches are outrageous in terms of the route running,
Speaker 1: Like Odell can still run routes, whether they were the
Speaker 1: routes Baker was expecting all the time. Like those are
Speaker 1: three guys, cup Woods and O'Dell that can get open guys.
Speaker 1: It is life should be pretty easy now C plus performance.
Speaker 1: He'll be on his best behavior now, I can you know,
Speaker 1: I can see how it's gonna work out. What should
Speaker 1: I be doing running around Mark? You need another reason
Speaker 1: to U quietly root against I just locked up the
Speaker 1: rams so you could change probably not playing this, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm that again. You have to be cut
Speaker 1: through it with the locks. All right, Let's well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Cleveland and New England, the team that Odell left. Greg.
Speaker 1: I I thought you might take this game for me.
Speaker 1: I think if you're the Cleveland Browns, what they did
Speaker 1: last weekgainst the Bengals was about as good a result
Speaker 1: as you could possibly have cooked up in your imagination
Speaker 1: because you've got a good version of Baker Mayfield. The
Speaker 1: deep ball with Donovan Peoples, Jones worked, the secondary, which
Speaker 1: has been getting healthier, was all over the place. I mean,
Speaker 1: the first couple of drives against Cincinnati was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna give up six hundred yards passing in
Speaker 1: this game. But they had money turnovers left and right,
Speaker 1: and they dominated a team that everyone was squawking about
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. But I don't view that
Speaker 1: as a signature win. That New England Patriots in New England,
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski versus Bill Belichick, that would be a signature win.
Speaker 1: And I am kind of monitoring obviously, because we have
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb who is dealing with corona and he has vaccinated,
Speaker 1: so he has a chance to play at this point. Still,
Speaker 1: Alex Van Pelt said there was some hope that could
Speaker 1: still happen if he gets two negative tests. But across
Speaker 1: the way, ramondre Stevenson and Damian Harris are both dealing
Speaker 1: with concussions and did not practice on Thursday. So that's
Speaker 1: another banged up backfield from a team that wants to
Speaker 1: run the ball a ton, right. I want to know
Speaker 1: if those two guys are healthy because I love this
Speaker 1: running back room that the Patriots have, and Stevenson adds
Speaker 1: a lot of juice and they're not fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be the same without him, especially because
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do so much. And I
Speaker 1: look at these two teams, it's just mirrors. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just think the Browns and the Patriots are so similar
Speaker 1: in so many ways. They both have a pass rush
Speaker 1: that that's been great, Like bar More jude On are
Speaker 1: getting after it up front right now. For the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The Browns obviously are extremely talented there. They run. They
Speaker 1: want to stop the run. But the Browns are better
Speaker 1: at everything. Like the Browns are better at running, they're
Speaker 1: better at rushing the passer. Uh. They both have coaches
Speaker 1: who I think are trying to turn it back to
Speaker 1: Cleveland like Bill Belichick used to do. And to me,
Speaker 1: like I've been surprised to see the Patriots become such
Speaker 1: a trendy team. You are not the only person that
Speaker 1: put them in the Super Bowl on that I know,
Speaker 1: at least Jim Trotter because he said it on NFL
Speaker 1: Network and I've seen everyone's expecting and they could, but
Speaker 1: I still think they've got a long way to go.
Speaker 1: Like they are playing there, They've changed who they are
Speaker 1: defensively and it's work. They've played zone a lot lately.
Speaker 1: But mac Jones is coming off two pretty slow games,
Speaker 1: and I am curious to see if like this slump
Speaker 1: mac Jones is on it is going to continue. That's
Speaker 1: when I come down with the Patriots. Um, I think
Speaker 1: they are a good team, but whether or not they
Speaker 1: are anything more than a fringe playoff team or a
Speaker 1: one and done playoff team, Well, now goes back to
Speaker 1: does mac Jones develop and mature at a faster rate
Speaker 1: um than they expect? And I just think the last
Speaker 1: two games for him have been you know, well two
Speaker 1: games it was pretty brutal. Uh last week, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he doesn't have that awareness in the pocket and
Speaker 1: he just gets creamed pressured a lot, and he does
Speaker 1: get speeding him up in terms of what he wants
Speaker 1: to do. So that's I think that's the recipe for
Speaker 1: a Brown's win. Here that Myles, Garrett and Clowney and
Speaker 1: the rest of that line get after it and really
Speaker 1: make things miserable and harass Jones into making some mistakes.
Speaker 1: Because I think this is the type of game. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a lot of points in
Speaker 1: this game. I think the team that makes the fewest
Speaker 1: mistakes is gonna probably come out top. This feels like
Speaker 1: a type game. I would probably pick the Browns if
Speaker 1: Chubb was playing, and maybe pick the Patriots if he's out.
Speaker 1: It should be a fun one. I took the Browns.
Speaker 1: I took the Browns Chubb or not. But I agree
Speaker 1: with everything that you said in terms of it being
Speaker 1: the defense of low scoring. The thing with the Patriots
Speaker 1: that they've been been a little sloppier than people I
Speaker 1: think realize, just in terms of penalties and mental errors
Speaker 1: they have. They haven't put it up together a totally
Speaker 1: complete game. Yet. You could say that about Cleveland too.
Speaker 1: I would just say the next thing, after what Baker
Speaker 1: did last week, is what's been missing this this year
Speaker 1: beyond the signature win. You're down by six points with
Speaker 1: a minute thirty seconds to go, You're on your twelve
Speaker 1: yard line. He marches in the entire field. Who do
Speaker 1: you pay? I pick Cleveland, I mean, even without Chubb.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win this game. If they don't,
Speaker 1: they're a hot mess. At five and five about mess,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you about hot messes. Um. The consistency
Speaker 1: is the last thing you want to see from the
Speaker 1: Browns if they can start, and I got a feeling
Speaker 1: there might. They're about to get hot, Mark and about
Speaker 1: at the end of this month, they're going to be
Speaker 1: seen as the best team in the a f C.
Speaker 1: I have feeling they're about to get hot. Now, that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're gonna win the Super Bowl because the thing,
Speaker 1: and especially with the quarterback, it's kind of like this,
Speaker 1: so you need it to be like this when January hits.
Speaker 1: Uh podcast audience, I'm pointing my hand upward into this guy.
Speaker 1: It's striking, but it feels like we might be headed there.
Speaker 1: For the Browns, I feel like they're in a good spot.
Speaker 1: Let's see. How's why I'm locking up the Browns all right,
Speaker 1: Ricky looking to get Oh no, that's exactly what That's
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm doing. I think she's doing the reverse
Speaker 1: Jinx thing that she did the other week exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I mean, the Psychological Master Pats have sixteen takeaways.
Speaker 1: They're they're the fourth most in the NFL. Baker with
Speaker 1: the shoulder this defense, I don't think I'm not trusting
Speaker 1: Mac Jones in this offense, but this defense could be
Speaker 1: an issue. So the Browns are gonna take it. I'm sorry, Mark, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've lost has to go now to uh the other side,
Speaker 1: because Ricky just locked your team up. She's gone down
Speaker 1: like black Magic Avenue and I don't enjoy. All right,
Speaker 1: take a break, Markets, Well, you've got to be strategic
Speaker 1: and pick your We're gonna do another breaking news strip
Speaker 1: in the middle of this what's what's happening? To take
Speaker 1: it personal stuff? Beckham signing seems qualifies, don't you Okay,
Speaker 1: I won't do that again. Then no, you should because
Speaker 1: you did your job as it sah, it's not about
Speaker 1: it doesn't like to be interrupted. Yeah, no, I'm really sorry. Mark,
Speaker 1: It's okay. I'm really sorry. I've taken a soft track
Speaker 1: by complaining about that. Mark never gets interrupted on our show,
Speaker 1: so he's just not used to it. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: You jarred me, but not only did it was a
Speaker 1: breaking news that interrupted Mark. It was about Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: who Mark hates more than Hitler. So you put all
Speaker 1: these things together, it was a rough one. There might
Speaker 1: have been a slight exaggeration in that last statement by Dan,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Minnesota at Chargers four oh five pm.
Speaker 1: If you're on the East Coast one oh five pm.
Speaker 1: If you're here on the West Coast, minutes from us,
Speaker 1: are you I don't know. I love The Vikings. To
Speaker 1: me are the most bizarre team in the league. And
Speaker 1: I've already mentioned that. I feel for their fan base.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is on pace to throw thirty two touchdowns
Speaker 1: in four interceptions. They no team in the league has
Speaker 1: allowed fewer sacks on offense or generated more on defense.
Speaker 1: Like these are the recipes to a team that should be,
Speaker 1: if not dominant. It's certainly five and three and not
Speaker 1: three and five. How are they three and five? And
Speaker 1: there is the Dalvin Cook situation. It sounds like he's
Speaker 1: gonna play, but we can get into that. That is
Speaker 1: a thorny off the field scenario. The Vikings Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this yet on the show. Um
Speaker 1: allegedly abused a former girlfriend, causing a concussion during an
Speaker 1: altercation at his home last year. This was originally reported
Speaker 1: by the Star Tribune and Minneapolis. This is cited from
Speaker 1: a lawsuit, and the newspaper reported that the woman filed
Speaker 1: a lawsuit in Dakota County accusing him of assault, battery,
Speaker 1: and false imprison and meant. Cook's attorney said his client.
Speaker 1: He said that Cook was assaulted by the woman after
Speaker 1: she broke into his residence. Uh And, in a statement
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, said that she'd later tried to extort
Speaker 1: him of millions of dollars. So it's a he said,
Speaker 1: she said, situation. Really ugly details, um ugly, ugly, upsetting
Speaker 1: photos connected to um this situation. And I think it's
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on how the NFL is
Speaker 1: going to handle or not handle the situation. And we
Speaker 1: never there never seems to be a clear path to
Speaker 1: how the NFL does this type of stuff. But for them,
Speaker 1: for the time being, Davil Cook the most important player.
Speaker 1: And we can talk about Kirk Cousins, and we can
Speaker 1: talk about Justin Jefferson, but ultimately it is David Cook
Speaker 1: that's their best, most important player. His availability is certainly
Speaker 1: in doubt in the long term. Well, Mike Zimmer was
Speaker 1: asked if it was a distraction and he said, not really,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know what kind of answer
Speaker 1: that was. The reporting on this was was so bad
Speaker 1: with Schefter, you know, putting out the news, trying to
Speaker 1: get ahead of the story before it happened in from
Speaker 1: the agents perspective came out of nowhere that he was
Speaker 1: the victim of that Cook was the victim of domestic
Speaker 1: abuse and extortion, and and there's pending linegation with no
Speaker 1: other context involved. And it got me thinking of just
Speaker 1: what we were talking about with the Deshaun Watson reporting
Speaker 1: like that, It was almost exactly what we were talking about,
Speaker 1: that it was not presenting contact and he he has
Speaker 1: since apologized for it, he admitted. Schefter admitted that he
Speaker 1: did a bad job of journalism and didn't didn't try
Speaker 1: to present both sides, which means he got he got
Speaker 1: called out for it, not just publicly, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: by his boss. Is it's it's it's troubling, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a team that I I think it might break
Speaker 1: at some point. I know they've been really competitive every
Speaker 1: game is is close, and it's often against really good
Speaker 1: teams and they barely lose. I think this is a
Speaker 1: week where or they might lose by more than three points,
Speaker 1: you know. I I look at their defense from a
Speaker 1: week ago, and they played ninety eight snaps and they've
Speaker 1: lost two of their best players in Peterson and Hunter.
Speaker 1: Ninety snaps is insane, that's crazy. Now they gotta go
Speaker 1: across country, uh to l a. Not only did they
Speaker 1: play nineties STAPs, five or six of their starters played
Speaker 1: all of them, like Everson Griffin, who like was gonna
Speaker 1: retire at some point, and they brought him back in
Speaker 1: to come save the day like he he was playing
Speaker 1: eighty eight snap. I think it's a tough spot. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the sacks that Cousins, you know, not taking. To me,
Speaker 1: that's part of the problem. He his whole point of
Speaker 1: existence at this point seems to be to avoid to
Speaker 1: take a sack, and that killed him in the Ravens game,
Speaker 1: I thought where he got rid of the ball too quickly,
Speaker 1: and they knew when they blitzed them late that he
Speaker 1: was just going to dump it off and they could
Speaker 1: rally to the ball. These are all a lot of reasons,
Speaker 1: you know, the the snaps being the number one why
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock up the old bolts, locking up the balls.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. You're trying to instill logic upon a
Speaker 1: Vikings team that is illogical by its very nature. And
Speaker 1: that's why although I like the Chargers, don't I don't
Speaker 1: trust the Chargers yet. They haven't been great at home yet.
Speaker 1: Uh in the at Sofi Stadium, um D would it's
Speaker 1: surprised what it will be. There's gonna be thirty thousand
Speaker 1: Vikings fans in that building at least. Would it surprise
Speaker 1: you of all the Minnesota Vikings go there and play great.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't, because they've shown that's that's what their d
Speaker 1: n A. They're very unpredictable. But like when you study
Speaker 1: the games, you see why their record is what it is, uh,
Speaker 1: compared to what their numbers are. Like Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: having a great statistical season, but they're way too hot
Speaker 1: and cold on offense. So they'll get the counting numbers
Speaker 1: in the top of the game, or maybe a late drive,
Speaker 1: or they'll get pick up some yards in overtime, But
Speaker 1: then when you look at the game, they're just large
Speaker 1: swaths of a game on offense where they disappear. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of checking down, there's a lot of throws
Speaker 1: short of the sticks, more than you would think in
Speaker 1: recent weeks, and they're running game. It's been hot and
Speaker 1: cold and now you have Cook in the what's going
Speaker 1: on with him? Uh? Their defense in addition to playing
Speaker 1: ninety eight snaps gave up five yards uh last week.
Speaker 1: So it's a coin flip like which version of the
Speaker 1: Vikings show up. But since it doesn't make sense for
Speaker 1: them to play lights out on Sunday on the road,
Speaker 1: that's why they will. And I mean I think they
Speaker 1: win the game. I do think though, Like Dalvin Cook situation,
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison, I mean, Dan Mark and Greg could run
Speaker 1: on this Chargers run defense. It's they almost invite you too.
Speaker 1: So you know they got away from Dalvin Cook. They
Speaker 1: got away from Justin Jefferson last week. Like stick with it,
Speaker 1: show us something consistency to to fourteen point leads against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. How many people are going to do this?
Speaker 1: With the Ravens climbing back in the cults, the Vikings
Speaker 1: come out, All right, let's move on. You took the Seahawk,
Speaker 1: your monsters. You guys took all the late games that
Speaker 1: I wanted, So I will go and grab the Bills
Speaker 1: at the Jets. Um all right, the Bills, so they
Speaker 1: have the thing. Now they have that thing. I wanted
Speaker 1: to reach out to Baldy and I wanted him to
Speaker 1: give us like a what is the too high safety
Speaker 1: shell that is scaring the Bills supposedly, just like it's
Speaker 1: messed up that the Chiefs. What is this defensive scheme
Speaker 1: that is causing havoc upon the unstoppable teams of a
Speaker 1: year ago? And and the layman's terms like description of
Speaker 1: what the issue is here is you're taking away the
Speaker 1: downfield strikes by having more discipline in the back end
Speaker 1: to look out for guys going downfield. And the way
Speaker 1: to beat it is with a run game. So how
Speaker 1: do the Bills get their run game cooking? Because if
Speaker 1: they could do that, uh with Singletary and or Moss,
Speaker 1: then you would think everything gets back to normal. But
Speaker 1: if they go to the meadow ends and we know
Speaker 1: the Jets are another team that's a little jackal and
Speaker 1: hide this season, and they have another game where the
Speaker 1: offense can't get going, God forbid they lose the game.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be really trying to scratch your heads figure
Speaker 1: out who's gonna win this a f C. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: win the a f C East. This is a very
Speaker 1: important game, uh for the Bills, and you wouldn't think that,
Speaker 1: you would think they're gonna roll over the Jets. And
Speaker 1: maybe they will, but I don't know. There's a little
Speaker 1: bit of juice to this game. It's it's one of
Speaker 1: the first times where Sean McDermott I think like the
Speaker 1: timeline of the Bills has been so pristine with everyone's development.
Speaker 1: He basically said, we thought we'd be farther along with
Speaker 1: this run game. It's been one part of their offen.
Speaker 1: Zack Moss is a concussion right now he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: They just have not been balanced on that front. And
Speaker 1: you look at the way that Jets were embarrassed defensively
Speaker 1: by the Colts and the Patriots. It was almost the
Speaker 1: exact same The Colts took the Patriots playbook with all
Speaker 1: these like kind of wham blocks that like power running
Speaker 1: teams can do where they invite the defensive line to
Speaker 1: go upfield and like that's Sala's m Oh that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's where he comes from. It's like these these interior
Speaker 1: don't even like worry about the gaps, just like get penetration.
Speaker 1: And they both of those power sort of offensive lines.
Speaker 1: You know, we're synchronized enough to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Run on the outside and just like you know, make
Speaker 1: them look bad. They embarrassed. The Bills don't really have
Speaker 1: that they you know, that's why teams like the Patriots
Speaker 1: and the Browns in theory, want to be able to
Speaker 1: do everything so that you can adjust to the game
Speaker 1: plan to your opponent. Like the Bills don't really have
Speaker 1: that in their arsenal in terms of their running game.
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly worried about them, but their offensive line
Speaker 1: last week was the reason they lost. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen played that bad of a game at
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Bills, despite all I mean, he made
Speaker 1: some bad decisions later, I think it was as the
Speaker 1: worst quarterback. He he went crazy at the very it
Speaker 1: was just football outsiders and there's aren't necessarily great those
Speaker 1: just numbers. But he kind of at the end just
Speaker 1: started throwing stuff against the wall. But I thought he
Speaker 1: played pretty well. His offensive line was a joke, I
Speaker 1: mean dominated and they were injured. On the other side,
Speaker 1: Mike White will start for the Jets at least one
Speaker 1: more game, and Salo left the door open that you
Speaker 1: know he could stay there. Um, they're playing the old
Speaker 1: will start the boy when he's healthy. But if Mike
Speaker 1: White plays well in this game, Zack Wilson's not playing
Speaker 1: because this the one thing Buffalo still has cooking here
Speaker 1: is a great defense there, the number one overall defense,
Speaker 1: uh pretty much across the board by a number of
Speaker 1: you know, defensive metrics. So while their offense is still
Speaker 1: trying to figure things out, the defense has been something
Speaker 1: you could count on. They they gave up three field
Speaker 1: goals and lost last week in Jacksonville, gave up eleven
Speaker 1: the week before against Miami. So they're there, They're they
Speaker 1: should be okay. But if Mike White uh lights them
Speaker 1: up here, that would be a lot of fun. By
Speaker 1: the way Mike White spoke today, play that, Ricky, why
Speaker 1: do you think you were under the radar for so long?
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. I mean, that's that's definitely the
Speaker 1: scouting departments and across the league and what their their
Speaker 1: interpretation of me is and then I've told you guys,
Speaker 1: counting as times, I have confidence in myself. So if
Speaker 1: you asked me, I should have been a first overall pick. Yeah, baby, yeah,
Speaker 1: first overall pick. Well, he played like a two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I'll see what he does against Buffalo. Let's just say
Speaker 1: in another world he lit it up for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season and became like the dude, like, what
Speaker 1: where does that leave you? Dan? With Zach Wilson and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I don't care about anything. If
Speaker 1: I have a quarterback that's awesome. You know, it would
Speaker 1: be quite an insane story. If Mike White holds this
Speaker 1: job for the rest of the year. Uh, maybe unprecedented.
Speaker 1: Someone find me something similar to like to this in
Speaker 1: NFL history, where like a number two pick would lose
Speaker 1: his job midway to this guy who's never played before.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to keep stacking it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: want to look at Wilson if White struggles. I do
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of awkwardness though that like
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson and White have eight touchdowns in in two
Speaker 1: games and and Wilson had four. Like Josh Johnson threw
Speaker 1: the ball great against the colts to right and he's
Speaker 1: back to the practice squad. Flacco is now the backup.
Speaker 1: So there's something strange about it, but it's probably not
Speaker 1: the Wilson to be like will Pison. They wanted him
Speaker 1: to be ready, he wasn't ready. He was struggling, and
Speaker 1: they got bailed out here because they planned poorly by
Speaker 1: not having a safety net behind the boy. And now
Speaker 1: Mike White appears out of nowhere, and again he's played
Speaker 1: one credit. So it would have if the if Mike
Speaker 1: White ended up starting the rest of the season and
Speaker 1: they either I don't think they're gonna listen, let's see
Speaker 1: how Buffalo goes first. But I don't want to get
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. If Zach Wilson is there, locked and
Speaker 1: loaded starter next year and he they tried to start
Speaker 1: him with the season as the starter didn't work out,
Speaker 1: they let him learn and get a little bit more maturity.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's absurd. It's just the process was
Speaker 1: a little funky. But that's the jets Um all right.
Speaker 1: Up next is Greg Oh, Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 1: When I'm not ready. No, I'm gonna do something a
Speaker 1: little different. I'm gonna take another four o'clock game, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be Panthers Cardinals. Uh. Who knows could be
Speaker 1: Cult McCoy versus p J. Walker In another world that
Speaker 1: could have been Kyler Murray versus Cam Newton. It's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be Kyler Murray versus p J. Walker. We actually,
Speaker 1: Matt Rule has confirmed that p J Walker will get
Speaker 1: this one start. He did start uh in Week seventeen
Speaker 1: last year looked okay, certainly better than he looked in
Speaker 1: his mop up duties two times last year. It's asking
Speaker 1: a lot for p J Walker to go up against
Speaker 1: the number two defense in the NFL in terms of
Speaker 1: d v O way uh and the way that they've
Speaker 1: controlled the line of scrimmage and expect him to do much.
Speaker 1: But Matt Rule has a guy who's known for his creativity,
Speaker 1: like Joe Brady. Let's see it. You got a week
Speaker 1: to get something going with p J. Walker, who is
Speaker 1: a short, fast, big armed quarterback who revived his career
Speaker 1: with the XFL. He's been on the fringes of the
Speaker 1: NFL for five years. Like this is an opportunity for him.
Speaker 1: But man, it's an uphill battle to have to play
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in like you're one start of the road.
Speaker 1: They are banged up, Arizona is They've got issues all
Speaker 1: over the place, Like we'll see Chase Edmonds is not
Speaker 1: going to be in there. Ron Deal Moore's dealing with
Speaker 1: a concussion and a neck injury. Are we sure Kyler's
Speaker 1: play It seems very question It's very questionable. He says
Speaker 1: he feels a lot better, but it's another one. We
Speaker 1: might not know till the end of the week. A J.
Speaker 1: Green is back New Copkins. We don't know. It is
Speaker 1: a mirror. It's not a miracle, but it's so impressive
Speaker 1: that they played that well last week with that many
Speaker 1: people missing. It's not a miracle. When Colt McColl McCoy
Speaker 1: just says, put that on hand, like your son like
Speaker 1: a little miracle, double miracle. Cults are little miracles. I
Speaker 1: feel like, well, what did Cynthia Friedland called little pony?
Speaker 1: That's sort of what it means. It is a little
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I miss uh small cult Sessler. We were
Speaker 1: just at his birthday party. That wasn't But when I
Speaker 1: when I haven't seen him in a while, beautiful young boy,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just drive nearby and I
Speaker 1: see his poster that his pre school has hanging on
Speaker 1: multiple um corners in my town. It's cold Sessler's picture.
Speaker 1: No lawyer goes to that school. Didn't ask for permissioners.
Speaker 1: He's smiling, and I think he's he's I have I
Speaker 1: don't have facts on this, but actually, and I believe
Speaker 1: enrollment's gone. I think that we actually, I think they
Speaker 1: did seek permission when you we signed some sort of
Speaker 1: waiver which said you can you can do anything with
Speaker 1: our child's technically our boy now that it was in
Speaker 1: the contract, so he's on loan to you at this point.
Speaker 1: I always pointed out to my kids in the back
Speaker 1: seat and they're just like, what who what who? I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it's called Sessler. I'm excited. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, Greg. It's snakes to you, all right.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I just want to say, um, I want
Speaker 1: to see Christian McCaffrey back another week. They're gonna, I mean,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about he's always been the centerpiece
Speaker 1: of their offense, but now when you have p J.
Speaker 1: Walker as the quarterback, they're probably gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit predictable on an obscene level. On obscene level in
Speaker 1: this game and with Cam Newton. I think they'll be
Speaker 1: rather predictable when he shows up. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they want to be super run heavy and
Speaker 1: they're going to continue that Cam with do We never
Speaker 1: saw Cam and McCaffrey together, did we? Yeah? We did, right,
Speaker 1: we did, Yeah we did. What if p J. Walker
Speaker 1: has like a Mike White situation, you know, comes and
Speaker 1: he's just on the sideline, but he's been paid a
Speaker 1: ton of money to be there. Great if the Jets
Speaker 1: cut Flack when he's signed with the band. Also Donald,
Speaker 1: we didn't even mention Sam Donald's name in all of this.
Speaker 1: I guess we're hurt. We're assuming, We're assuming his career
Speaker 1: in Caroline is over. I mean that's more likely than not.
Speaker 1: I would say he's out for four to six weeks,
Speaker 1: but at this point that feels like if you want
Speaker 1: to sell tickets, his career needs to hope. He's not
Speaker 1: checking like mentions or Twitter today anytime. It's it's sad
Speaker 1: and it's just the way his career has worked out.
Speaker 1: Like everybody, I'm one of them, that was like, just
Speaker 1: getting him a better situation, he'll be better. And that
Speaker 1: was the case for three weeks, which made it even
Speaker 1: more funky when it all fell apart. I think his
Speaker 1: ceiling now where we stand now in November one, is
Speaker 1: like Colt McCoy's career, like hang around as a backup,
Speaker 1: keep getting chances because of when he was drafted. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying to start where people are just like I'm
Speaker 1: saying as a backup, he'll He'll be in the NFL
Speaker 1: for a decade plus, but not a start. A good dude,
Speaker 1: he's a hard worker. He does have draft pedigree, so
Speaker 1: I think he'll get a backup job and probably get
Speaker 1: pretty good backup money next year. But I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going into any camp with a chance of start.
Speaker 1: And got a Super Bowl ring and like you know,
Speaker 1: right next to Tom Brady on the float, you know
Speaker 1: that could be Sam Darnaldy Sam Donald. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a break. Spack you Greg. I'm torn here? Why
Speaker 1: am I so torn? I'll go I'll take the Falcons Cowboys. Uh.
Speaker 1: Watch Matt Ryan another week live the new Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: playing great. He kind of is though. His running ability,
Speaker 1: his movement, I'm not kidding. He's moving better. There's no question.
Speaker 1: He shaked. He shook to Mario Davis out of his
Speaker 1: shoes two times last week. His running was a factor
Speaker 1: in that game, not just you know, rushing yards. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of those, although it's been surprising
Speaker 1: when he does. But his movement in the pocket is awesome,
Speaker 1: and they're offensive line is terrible, and I I really
Speaker 1: do believe he's moving better than he used to. And
Speaker 1: I think he's fitting well with Arthur Smith. I think
Speaker 1: Arthur smith reputation as a good coach for quarterbacks uh
Speaker 1: is burying out and they're playing against the Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: that will be without Randy Gregory suffered an injury in practice.
Speaker 1: That's too bad. I think he was having a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl season. So that's a big loss for their defense,
Speaker 1: coming right coming off of their best or their worst
Speaker 1: game of the year the Cowboys defense. My my favorite
Speaker 1: thing that happened this week was, you know, coming out
Speaker 1: of that Denver wipe out of Dallas, where we're just
Speaker 1: week you're left with like one of these so called
Speaker 1: heavy is getting destroyed and having to contemplate what it means.
Speaker 1: But Jerry Jones basically saying that Denver didn't do anything
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting. We anticipated it. I went over it
Speaker 1: carefully with Mike McCarthy before the game. What they came
Speaker 1: out doing we anticipated completely. We just didn't anticipate them
Speaker 1: having that kind of success, and they stayed in it really,
Speaker 1: I mean, Dak said that too. Maybe they were just
Speaker 1: like in their feelings about getting something about that doesn't
Speaker 1: kind of buy it that Denver just flew around in
Speaker 1: that game on defense in a way that just I
Speaker 1: haven't you haven't seen this year, And I think it
Speaker 1: was just like they were way more ready to play,
Speaker 1: like it's a physical game and sometimes one team is
Speaker 1: just like ready to knock you out. Tyrone Smith being
Speaker 1: out I think really made a difference. Though. That got
Speaker 1: a little spooked by the lack of protection there, and
Speaker 1: we don't know if he'll be he'll be back on
Speaker 1: the left. Luke in the sense that it's not gonna
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get handled by anyone all the rest
Speaker 1: of me. They're not the greatest team ever, but I
Speaker 1: fully expect them to get healthy in this game. There's
Speaker 1: a fluke Offensively, I totally agree it's gonna take way
Speaker 1: more than one game to because this is the game
Speaker 1: in the outside the parameters of our game, like I
Speaker 1: feel super confident about Dallas being humbled and saying, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna whoop up on the Falcons defense, which is
Speaker 1: not good. Um, we'll see what happens there. Any other
Speaker 1: thoughts on this ball game? Treyvon Diggs Kyle Pitts might
Speaker 1: be a fun matchup. Digs got week some penalties that
Speaker 1: has not been so outside of his turnover prowess, Like
Speaker 1: there's been a couple of games. Keep throwing at him.
Speaker 1: He's so aggressive. The Falcons have such a small margin
Speaker 1: fair they kind of need Pits and Patterson to be
Speaker 1: big every single game. That's about to ask um, all right,
Speaker 1: I am up next, I will grab the Eagles at Broncos. Now,
Speaker 1: I say that last week was a fluke. I mean
Speaker 1: it more from the perspective of the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: just a lot of things worked against him there and
Speaker 1: they kind of got stunned. Uh. The Broncos, I thought
Speaker 1: they played so well that they command a little bit
Speaker 1: more attention. And Greg you you know, I think you
Speaker 1: kind of bailed on the team at t h a L.
Speaker 1: But you should have. You should have hung in there
Speaker 1: because I think that's a little bit frisky. It's crazy
Speaker 1: you know a three and oh start will really help
Speaker 1: you out, because they started three and oh against bum
Speaker 1: teams and then they ran into incredible turbulence. Obviously lost
Speaker 1: four in a row. But then when you kind of
Speaker 1: right the ship and they won their last two games,
Speaker 1: all said a bang, we're half game out of first
Speaker 1: place in the a f C West. There right there.
Speaker 1: Von Miller obviously out the door, but they didn't miss
Speaker 1: him on Sunday. And I think I'll say this for
Speaker 1: Teddy greg and he's been a divisive figure on the show.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that's going to take you to
Speaker 1: the Promised Land and be a superstar offense. But if
Speaker 1: if Angio continues to coach up this defense and they
Speaker 1: continue to gain traction, Teddy's the right quarterback to get
Speaker 1: you an enough points to win a bunch of close games.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, like whoa the Brown the
Speaker 1: Broncos are playing on wild Card weekend. That's not out
Speaker 1: of the picture for me. Yeah, he's coming off one
Speaker 1: of the best games of his career. I thought against
Speaker 1: Das he threw the ball beautifully, and playing against this
Speaker 1: Eagles defense is a dream for for accurate quarterbacks. Five
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks have gone over and that's like what Teddy
Speaker 1: does best is kind of be the point guard distributor.
Speaker 1: They get no back and just throw a bunch of
Speaker 1: seven eight yard throws that maybe doesn't get you too excited,
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I think it should be easy
Speaker 1: for them to move the ball. And I just think
Speaker 1: about how frustrating must be to be an Eagles defender.
Speaker 1: They just play so passively. Well they're they're verbalizing it
Speaker 1: right like in just like they're not getting any pressure
Speaker 1: really up front in these games where the quarterbacks get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly and you're just Fletcher Cox
Speaker 1: and Barnett like snap after snap, not getting anywhere because
Speaker 1: teams are just picking you apart. It's gotta be tough.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the kind of defensive philosophy that always
Speaker 1: seems to get players grumbling, where like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're Fletcher Cox is just saying, I want to be aggressive,
Speaker 1: you want to go after Like the coordinator in their
Speaker 1: press conferences always like, we're gonna be aggressive, but Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gannon and Philly is like, and we're gonna like lay
Speaker 1: back and let you go on really long drives and
Speaker 1: hope we can make them. I mean, the results suggest
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't, you would try something else potentially totally
Speaker 1: whipped on this, by the way, Sirianni, when the fan
Speaker 1: threw the flowers at him, I forgot about that. We
Speaker 1: even played the quote about like he wanted his team
Speaker 1: to be in a pretty little flower. That's where he
Speaker 1: didn't respond like like it. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 1: But something that's remember the thing about the flowers, that
Speaker 1: ridiculous hype speech that he gave his team. That's wild.
Speaker 1: You're making me feel bad about giving up on these Broncos.
Speaker 1: I still made that they're they're really injured. Patrick's Artan
Speaker 1: got her bowls. They like even last week they took
Speaker 1: three or four more new injury. But I think about
Speaker 1: west Um a lot with these Broncos. He always had
Speaker 1: a soft spot for Fongio. He's he kind of believed,
Speaker 1: do you guys, remember like in these Broncos teams the
Speaker 1: last a couple of years, he's stuck with the Flacco
Speaker 1: team originally and thought that team Um was gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I thought about him a lot too, because he he
Speaker 1: thought these Broncos would get there eventually, and he always
Speaker 1: was the guy defending the Titans too. You know, he
Speaker 1: was always like kind of on the Titans corner. And
Speaker 1: here's the Titans having having their great year, and we
Speaker 1: talked about it on Sunday Night, Greag. They have a
Speaker 1: good running game. They have a nice one to punch
Speaker 1: there with the rookie and Melvin Gordon. So you have
Speaker 1: that going on. You got Teddy who steady steady Teddy?
Speaker 1: I'm all right, Tim Patrick making a ton of plays
Speaker 1: in that game. Hasn't been the offense. If the defense
Speaker 1: at this good, then the Cowboys game was not the
Speaker 1: fluke as we described already said to you, I can
Speaker 1: I say the Cowboys they'll be fine. But they did
Speaker 1: that to the Cowboys. I know they did, so it
Speaker 1: was a fluke for the Cowboys. They're not in trouble.
Speaker 1: But I do think the Broncos could actually build on this.
Speaker 1: This is such a big game though, because now if
Speaker 1: you lay an egg at home against the Eagles, you
Speaker 1: kind of give back all that moment. Anything could happen
Speaker 1: in this game. You could tell me any score combination,
Speaker 1: either team blowing the other one out, and I would wholeheartedly, Bullie.
Speaker 1: I would ask if like John Elway and people, all
Speaker 1: these other people actually want Fonio to save his job
Speaker 1: and be the coach after the season. If you are
Speaker 1: also trying to pitch a landing spot to Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: there's a disconnect. I think that's always happy he's still
Speaker 1: getting a check. He lost his job, assend and he
Speaker 1: got a promotion while losing your job and get the check.
Speaker 1: That's I just I sense changes ahead to some degree
Speaker 1: that that's the first team they've beaten with a winning record.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to like completely melt into a puddle
Speaker 1: of enthusiasm yet over the whole thing. I know, I know, Listen,
Speaker 1: there's a disconnect in your football following that any team
Speaker 1: that's not gonna win the Super Bowl isn't work. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. I want a T shirt that
Speaker 1: just says like I will not melt into a puddle
Speaker 1: of it, just like you know, let's see it a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks in orrow. That's how the sport works.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but they really there are pieces here
Speaker 1: to go on a run, and that that division is
Speaker 1: not nearly what we thought it was going to be
Speaker 1: early in the year than I do right now. I
Speaker 1: like it. Let's say let's see all right, let's say
Speaker 1: that's the Oh, Mark, you have the last pick of
Speaker 1: the draft. I will go um, because I'm pairing this
Speaker 1: against the Browns Patriots game Detroit at Pittsburgh that I
Speaker 1: took too late games that there is not a whole
Speaker 1: lot going on there. Yeah, I mean it's not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have the choices aren't too hot. I like
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh though you have I do. Um, they have my respect,
Speaker 1: I mean they always do. But like they're a tough watch,
Speaker 1: but they've won four in a row. I think they
Speaker 1: just simply a team that handles their business. And I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to go down this road. I don't know
Speaker 1: what their ultimate fortunes would be because they seem to
Speaker 1: be a good but not great teams figuring themselves out.
Speaker 1: They have the Chargers, Bengals and Ravens after this Lions game,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna find out real fast what they are.
Speaker 1: But their offensive line has grown. Um, I think guys
Speaker 1: that you're adding to the mix, like a Pat Friarmouth
Speaker 1: who you know. Markaboli there, like longtime beat writer, said
Speaker 1: that he kind of compared him to Antonio Brown, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what, And it's because of the trust
Speaker 1: that Big Ben has shown in him, and you can
Speaker 1: kind of see that he's willing to throw it to
Speaker 1: him and the incredible things seem to happen when they do.
Speaker 1: And Big Bed sort of said, we're finding our ways
Speaker 1: to win. I don't know if I trust this team
Speaker 1: to do a whole lot more, but you're gonna handle
Speaker 1: Detroit without too too many problems. Maybe no Chase Claypool though,
Speaker 1: which to me is almost certainly no Chase Claypool. And
Speaker 1: we don't know how much. I think that's a big loss.
Speaker 1: I think the Lions are kind of this every other
Speaker 1: week team. They either get a moral victory or the
Speaker 1: weeks that people actually believe in them, they stink. This
Speaker 1: feels like a moral victory game I have. I just
Speaker 1: am not believing in the Steelers in terms of like
Speaker 1: covering these big spreads. For instance, I didn't against the
Speaker 1: Bears that ended up coming down to the wire. They're
Speaker 1: they're favored by nine or ten here. I hate that,
Speaker 1: Like I just like I feel like the Lions are
Speaker 1: gonna be in this game and they'll find a to lose,
Speaker 1: and the Steelers will find a way to win. And
Speaker 1: that's the same, right. The Steelers are the Steelers are
Speaker 1: the Steelers. They're at home, they're five and three, they're
Speaker 1: on a winning streak. But there's nothing about the way
Speaker 1: that offense plays that tells me anything should be taken
Speaker 1: as a given that there should be a blowout win.
Speaker 1: They should win, though, because anybody has played the lines
Speaker 1: could be like a nice T. J. Watt defensive player
Speaker 1: of the year, like rack up three type of game. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go through the rest of the games here.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars start with the early games. Jaguars one pm,
Speaker 1: Eastern Pacific. This is Mark's team is in this game.
Speaker 1: Jaguars two and six, Colts four and five. Colts have
Speaker 1: to win football games. They got the Jags in their
Speaker 1: building right now Jacksonville, of course, though Mark coming off
Speaker 1: a great inspired defensive effort in which they shut down
Speaker 1: the Bills offense held them to six points in a win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Colts thirty one points per game since Week four.
Speaker 1: I do I. I could fall for all sorts of
Speaker 1: things too, um and I'm not falling for the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: but there's a little thing about me after watching what
Speaker 1: they did to the Bills. That makes me think could
Speaker 1: they operate as some sort of one of these berserker
Speaker 1: teams that you know, a couple of weeks from now,
Speaker 1: you don't really want to deal with them if Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence gets better and better. But it's the defense. I
Speaker 1: think the defense was so disruptive against it was a
Speaker 1: banged up Bills line that I just want to see
Speaker 1: this matchup because when you put heat on Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: we've seen bad things happen. That said, the Colts are
Speaker 1: the better coach team they've got. They've got a ground
Speaker 1: game that's on fire right now. James Robinson is still
Speaker 1: sideline for the Jaguars. We're not sure what's going on.
Speaker 1: And this Jaguars offense was two of thirteen on third
Speaker 1: down last week and had two eighteen yards of offense.
Speaker 1: So that truly was a nine to six game where
Speaker 1: it was something special happening for the other Josh Allen, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, good job of the berserker.
Speaker 1: That's a nice part of the Sessler brand. There are
Speaker 1: teams like You've had it out. Yeah, every year there's
Speaker 1: Cesslor's got his berserker team. Not sure it's this we'll
Speaker 1: see that Jack's the offensive performance came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: They've been terrible all year. The Colts have been very
Speaker 1: reliable and beating down like the lesser teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, they beat down the Jets, they beat down
Speaker 1: the Texans like they've been good at that. And I
Speaker 1: would expect it to happen because Trevor Lawrence is making
Speaker 1: fewer big plays. Since thereby do they have a touchdown?
Speaker 1: Since Thereby was thirty one six with a touchdown? I
Speaker 1: think it was, But either way, they've they've got fifteen
Speaker 1: points in two weeks, so the arrow is not even
Speaker 1: going up right now for Trevor Lawrence, which it would
Speaker 1: be nice to see. Not a berserker according to you.
Speaker 1: In other potential slaughter news, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers come
Speaker 1: off Thereby at six and two and head to FedEx
Speaker 1: Field to face the Washington football team. So you have
Speaker 1: Tom Brady with an extra week to get healthy and
Speaker 1: prepare and practice, and now he gets to face the
Speaker 1: last ranked past defense in football slaughter and they're like annoyed.
Speaker 1: At least Bruce arians is. Maybe they're just looking for motivation.
Speaker 1: It's a long season, but he's really annoyed by the
Speaker 1: fact that people have said that Taylor Heinik like lit
Speaker 1: up their defense, and he's like, we didn't know Taylor
Speaker 1: Heineke was gonna start that game. We thought out it
Speaker 1: was gonna be Alex Smith, Like if we had had
Speaker 1: a plan for Heineck, like, we would have destroyed them.
Speaker 1: So it's probably in their mind they need to find
Speaker 1: little ways to get up. And I think coming off
Speaker 1: of a bye, even without Antonio Brown and maybe Rob Gronkowski,
Speaker 1: they have great injury news, which is John Murphy Bunting
Speaker 1: is back and and Carlton Davis um at some point
Speaker 1: it's gonna be back. Don't know if it's gonna be
Speaker 1: this week or not, but I I love that for them,
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna solve some things. Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans have quietly like been so good this year,
Speaker 1: especially Godwin, like you just to kind of expect it. Uh.
Speaker 1: They they are the reason that offense goes along with
Speaker 1: Brady like it's not the Antonio Brown and the Gronk
Speaker 1: stuff sprinkled on the side. Washington is like regress from
Speaker 1: the last time these two teams, you know, faced each other,
Speaker 1: and I don't really trust them to do a thing.
Speaker 1: They haven't scored more than thirteen points since October. T
Speaker 1: Is that everything? I think it is one last thing
Speaker 1: in the that you met with that game. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: one last thing, Gregg. I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this. It's kind of a somber topic. But x
Speaker 1: NFL star Frank Gore to fight x NBA star Deron
Speaker 1: Williams in boxing match on Jake Paul Tommy Fury Undercard's
Speaker 1: it's a somber topic. I mean, I'm I'm concerned for
Speaker 1: his health certainly, but he's a competitor. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you where my money is going on that game
Speaker 1: if we were allowed to do such things on that match,
Speaker 1: rather think we are. No, we're not nothing. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't do anything. You can't you can't bet on anything.
Speaker 1: If you work for the NFL. Well, I don't even
Speaker 1: know the rules because that's not something that interesting. Frank. God, Frank,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like most of us know
Speaker 1: that that rule that we're not. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you've been doing, Dan with your free time. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: do have to take like an hour long UM training session.
Speaker 1: You do have to take the training session. You don't
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to anything. Yes, that is you
Speaker 1: could have multiple screens. Are absolutely fine. I'm a little worried.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like I want him to win this,
Speaker 1: you know match and then retire from boxing. It sounds
Speaker 1: like he's been training for this for years. He was
Speaker 1: doing it even as a player. You worry about Frank,
Speaker 1: I guess and drops a bomb like maybe he better
Speaker 1: clean it up. Darren Williams. Total disappointment with the Nets.
Speaker 1: What a terrible contract, Darren wins. This guy is not tough.
Speaker 1: A lot taller Frank Core when I did my article
Speaker 1: on him, he couldn't have been I know he's listed
Speaker 1: at five nine. He could not have been taller than
Speaker 1: five seven or so. And and Williams he has an NBA.
Speaker 1: You have to we have our missive music, Ricky, because
Speaker 1: I just realized in this In the story, Frank Gore
Speaker 1: used a statement, Wow, I'm excited to be fighting on
Speaker 1: this card and can't wait to show the world what
Speaker 1: I've been working on. Boxing has me excited. And on
Speaker 1: December eight, team expect fireworks with a slammer. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna work on his statements a little bit sounds confident.
Speaker 1: One of the toughest NFL players of his generation, third
Speaker 1: in NFL history sixteen thousand rushing yards. I guess he's
Speaker 1: officially retired. You know. Between him and he was Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 1: we haven't actually gotten the I'm retired from either. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the NFL retires you, and for Frank appears that's would
Speaker 1: eventually happen. But the guy was what a run class
Speaker 1: act guilt? You know what I'd really like. I want
Speaker 1: Frank or to do whatever he wants when to be happy.
Speaker 1: But he feels like a guy would be a great
Speaker 1: guy to coaching staff and maybe that's where he ends
Speaker 1: up in time. But if it makes him happy, I
Speaker 1: got to pay the heavy wit champion in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I love Frank Gore so much.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys are welcome to come over that
Speaker 1: night because I'm buying some showtime. Oh yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta watch Frank or if someone's got a good
Speaker 1: stream for me one or the other. I don't like
Speaker 1: what Doron Williams's statement is. Combat sports have been a
Speaker 1: part of my life since my youngest days, before I
Speaker 1: was a basketball player. I was a wrestler. Since I've
Speaker 1: had the privilege of owning an mm A Jim and
Speaker 1: through that, I've trained in various martial various martial arts
Speaker 1: to stay active. Over the last year, I've been waiting
Speaker 1: for the right opportunity to translate my training into a
Speaker 1: professional debut. Oh, Frankie, I'm a little worried about. Duran
Speaker 1: has been all over this thing. It could be. You know,
Speaker 1: I was as a kid. I remember we went over
Speaker 1: to some uh father and son's house with like eighty
Speaker 1: fathers and sons to watch Tyson Spinks and a guy
Speaker 1: was making like microwave popcorn and the fight was over
Speaker 1: before the popcorn was done. So I hope I wish
Speaker 1: for your sake, Greg, that it lasts longer. Classic Tyson Spinks. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys were like four years old, sucking on like
Speaker 1: oh I lolly pops. And I watched that fight as well.
Speaker 1: It was like thirty seven seconds. Yeah, Darren Williams, I
Speaker 1: don't know. The Inconvenient Truth is scared by no. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if this site
Speaker 1: is the most accurate way to find out his name.
Speaker 1: Maybe just YouTube, and it's so many different alright, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that's alright. So we will be back, Okay,
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Speaker 1: recap every game we just previewed here Sunday night, of course,
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