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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: This is Mick Shot streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 3: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: And here it is a Tuesday, a beautiful Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: You're at the Star in Frisco, and we are inside

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Speaker 4: the s WBC podcast studio and another edition of mix Shots.

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Speaker 4: And wow, what a great day. There needs to be

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Speaker 4: football players on the football field today.

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Speaker 5: We have rules, Bill, I think I think they deserve

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Speaker 5: a day off, but they do.

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Speaker 4: But it's such a nice day, I say, finally got

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Speaker 4: rid of the.

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Speaker 5: Can you guys hear me?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I can hear you.

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Speaker 5: Can you not hear us?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well we'll work on that.

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Speaker 5: Problem right here.

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Speaker 2: We'll just speak up.

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Speaker 5: Why not try?

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Speaker 4: You won't be able to hear the phone calls today?

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Speaker 5: The phone calls?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right? So basking in the glory of a

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Speaker 4: Sunday night wind still Mickey Spagnola, did you get a

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Speaker 4: good night's sleep? I did, okay, very good.

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Speaker 7: Cat napped all the way through the Monday night football game.

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Speaker 2: But I made it to the end, yes.

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Speaker 5: But didn't make it to the end.

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Speaker 4: He did the breaking I had the moment that was

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Speaker 4: a good moment to breaking news this morning, and so

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Speaker 4: they won't be talking about the Cowboys. Of course, the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys won, so they aren't talking about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Can't guess. I can't find any of my friends out

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Speaker 5: there now.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to talk about the Cowboys when they win,

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Speaker 4: but they're talking about the Jets. You're going to get

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Speaker 4: your fill of New York Jets football, j e ts, Jets, Jets,

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Speaker 4: Jets all day to day. Because he made a decision

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Speaker 4: to uh fire what he I mean? Woody Johnson made

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Speaker 4: a decision to fire Robert Saleh and Jeff Obrich is

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Speaker 4: the new interim head coach for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 4: Two and three record. They just played in London. I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: maybe they have the bye week this week having just

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Speaker 4: played in London, and if you're going to make a change,

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Speaker 4: sometimes that'll be the case. But actually they played Monday

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Speaker 4: night they play the Bills, so.

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Speaker 2: They got an extra day for the new coach.

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Speaker 7: That's right, Yeah, boy, we're firing coaches at two and three.

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Speaker 5: MM hmmm, So is it too early to give up

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Speaker 5: on your coach?

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Speaker 2: Well, if the quarterback doesn't like them, he's in his

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Speaker 2: fourth season.

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Speaker 4: And then the red flag on It was last week

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Speaker 4: when there was I don't remember the circumstances, but the

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Speaker 4: the thoughts you talked something like that, and the quarterback said, well,

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Speaker 4: maybe we just need to start keep getting keeping these

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Speaker 4: players accountable. We're talking about the head coach.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, and so when.

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Speaker 4: That relationship sours, then when the Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback, then.

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Speaker 8: You know, I remember him just flipping backwards trying not

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Speaker 8: to criticize him for Rogers, for not showing up, you know,

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Speaker 8: for the camp off season camp deals, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 8: tripping over himself, just trying to not to say anything.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, he's fine, No, no, he can go do

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Speaker 8: acid in the desert or whatever. You know, it's okay.

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Speaker 8: I mean, is that loose leagen Nicks. I don't know

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Speaker 8: what the hell he was doing. I mean, he went

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Speaker 8: back to the sixties on this stuff, man, and you

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Speaker 8: know he's able.

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Speaker 5: To do that. Oh yeah, welcome back, Aaron. You're good.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, we just we just need your receivers

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Speaker 8: to be on the same page with you.

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Speaker 5: Behave you good? And now here we are I tell.

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Speaker 2: You, boy, being on the same page might mean something.

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Speaker 5: Huh. Well, yeah, if you can find him, you have

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Speaker 2: That finds.

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Speaker 4: So I guess you know this occurred to me.

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Speaker 7: So when Salo went from San Francisco, right yes, to

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Speaker 7: the Jets because they lost an assistant coach to head coaching,

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Speaker 7: they got draft picks. So when he gets fired, you

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Speaker 7: got to give the draft picks back.

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Speaker 4: That's an idea.

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Speaker 5: Both are my draft picks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. You how long did he last?

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Speaker 2: Two years? Three?

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Speaker 4: And he was in his fourth year, fourth, five year,

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Speaker 8: Like I said, they put so much into last year,

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Speaker 4: So really he was. He lost his job for plays

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Speaker 5: The quarterbacks didn't just didn't know it.

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Speaker 8: Nate said it started with the coach saying the cadence

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Speaker 4: That's what it was in this Yeah, that's what it was.

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Speaker 5: Yes, for the false starts.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and that's when the quarterback said, well, maybe

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Speaker 4: we just need to start keep keeping the players.

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Speaker 5: So he just he's sensitive. He's just a little sensitive

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Speaker 8: You know, you say something to somebody who was, as

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Speaker 8: now you know, I'm out of here because I said

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Speaker 8: I slipped and said the wrong thing. Crazy man, you

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Speaker 8: know that kind of stuff. That that that, you know,

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Speaker 8: old school stuff was. Let me meet you outside after

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Speaker 8: that when I pack up all my stuff. You know,

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Speaker 8: when I pack up all my stuff, me and you

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Speaker 5: And let's just talk about this. Hash it out, hash

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Speaker 2: No, we got we got.

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Speaker 5: Text message with civilized now Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Facebook, Yeah, that's good, we can get it out there.

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Speaker 5: We got X, thank god, Yeah we got X.

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Speaker 4: So the Jets lost to the Vikings in London on

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Speaker 2: At least let him ride back.

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Speaker 4: I think he was ride back.

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Speaker 2: Leave him behind.

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Speaker 7: Who was the coach that got a college coach got

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Speaker 2: Edwards Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was hilarious, man. They fired him.

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Speaker 8: Hey, man, we don't need you to go into the

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Speaker 5: You're good. You got to ride home. We got we

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Speaker 8: They wouldn't even live go in the locker room to

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Speaker 4: So they've got twelve games to salvage their season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's two and three.

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Speaker 5: That's what.

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Speaker 4: That's what, that's what. Whatdy Johnson's thinking is that we

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Speaker 4: I can. Jeff Ouldbrook seems like a guy who has

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Speaker 8: Well, what's going to happen is I mean, this is

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Speaker 8: what's going on. They're putting everything in Aaron Rodgers hands. Right,

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Speaker 8: He's trusting Aaron over the head coach, and let's see

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Speaker 5: Maybe Rogers the head he's the head coach. That's just

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Speaker 8: Don't say anything to piss me off right now, because

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Speaker 5: Basically, what he's what's happening right now?

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Speaker 2: You think somewhere Mike McCarthy's smiling.

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Speaker 7: Why do you say that, Well, we heard the rumors

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Speaker 7: at the end in Green Bay that they weren't see

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Speaker 5: Now Aaron Rodgers running this whole thing, you can.

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Speaker 4: And there were issues with Matt Lafleur too. Yeah, between

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Speaker 5: We know, we know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Olbrook is the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: So so the bottom line is when you.

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Speaker 4: He's still the defensive course, well that's been his position

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Speaker 4: So truthfully we get to the bottom of this. As

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Speaker 4: we get to the bottom of this, jeff Oldbrook is

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Speaker 4: still the defensive Lathaniel Hacket is on the offensive, and

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Speaker 5: And the head coach.

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Speaker 8: There you go, that's just the way it is, just

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Speaker 8: You know, let we all know that I'm the guy,

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Speaker 8: so you know it may it may be better.

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Speaker 5: It may be better.

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Speaker 7: And the good thing here is that the quarterback goes

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Speaker 7: to the head coaches hometown and goes visit the old

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Speaker 5: That's right, the house, the house. Yeah, that's even better,

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Speaker 5: that's even better.

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Speaker 8: But when you look at this this whole week, I'm

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Speaker 8: just so happy that the players are getting their flowers

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Speaker 8: the game and the interceptions, the fumbles of all of that,

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Speaker 8: the NFL usually is. Your offense is never perfect. Your

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Speaker 4: You know what, though, with the twenty four hour rulers up, yes,

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Speaker 4: and now they start they put in that Lions tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're not playing the Pittsburgh Steelers this week. The defense

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Speaker 7: They're playing the number three ranked offense and they have

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Speaker 4: Of game rushing and By the way, it's a Detroit

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Speaker 4: Lions team coming off of bye week two.

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Speaker 8: And they're still pissed off about that. Yeah, still pissed off.

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Speaker 4: And one they've been working on that tackle eligible for

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Speaker 4: two weeks. Now, I know that that's all they do.

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Speaker 5: This is what we're gonna Did.

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Speaker 7: You see him the report in their last time they

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Speaker 7: playing Dan Skipper? Skipper reports it and the official Uh,

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Speaker 7: for those of you that aren't watching, he both hands,

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Speaker 7: he pointed at him and said.

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Speaker 2: Reported in hilarious.

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Speaker 7: Hilarious, he reported in the Other thing that I noticed

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Speaker 2: But he leads the league with six and.

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Speaker 4: And if you looked up his quarterback pressures twenty five,

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Speaker 4: it's like far and away he's doubled. He's lapped the

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Speaker 2: Well under the Cowboys have a soft spot.

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Speaker 5: Pick up where we left off. Now you have no choice.

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Speaker 4: They he's been coming in for series. They're not alternating

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Speaker 5: You don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't want Tyler Smith to play left guard. And

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Speaker 4: so you you switch it out. You can't do that.

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Speaker 4: It's you said they are doing it at other places,

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Speaker 7: Do you remember And if I get this wrong, I'm

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Speaker 2: So it would have been.

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Speaker 8: Because that's when we were in dire straits. We were,

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Speaker 8: we were really depleted in talent. Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 2: I think one of them, one of them was a rookie.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was common.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think it was fairly common. They would send

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Speaker 5: That's what Tom would do.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then one game they did it with the quarterbacks, cho.

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Speaker 5: Bringing that stuff up because you know, there's not good.

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Speaker 4: You know what, it ended up good? You know why

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to.

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Speaker 2: Since we solved the offensive line issues, Yes.

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Speaker 4: You're going with guy and if he's healthy, If he's healthy, Okay.

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Speaker 4: It is Denzel Mems is the wide receiver Baylor who

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones on the fan this morning, did you have

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 4: Okay, he highlights. He says Tyler Guiton has a good chance,

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Speaker 5: Hold on with Nate from Frisco.

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Speaker 8: Okay, he started with the coach saying the cadence may

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Speaker 5: Thank you Frisco.

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Speaker 4: Now he's learning that whatever he text, just to understand

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Speaker 5: run two weeks in a row very well.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not gonna sit up here and dump on

448
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 8: the Steelers because they'll come back next week and show

449
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 8: you just what kind of team they are, Just like

450
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 8: the Giants have done and really have been doing trying

451
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Speaker 8: to hang in there with the problems that they're having.

452
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 8: Cowboys have been beating a couple of really good teams.

453
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Speaker 8: They can say what they want. Cowboys beat a couple

454
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Speaker 8: of really good teams, and their defense led the way.

455
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Speaker 2: So it already started Monday on talk radio.

456
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Speaker 7: Okay, it's like, well, yeah, okay, that was the Steelers.

457
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Speaker 2: Now we're going to see what they can do against Detroit.

458
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Speaker 2: It's never good. It minimizes because going in.

459
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Speaker 7: Everybody was all fired up about the Steelers and how

460
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 7: they were going to run the ball right down.

461
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Speaker 5: Their big coming a big stud.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then that didn't happen, No, it did not.

463
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Speaker 2: And it's and also started you know with the Giants

464
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Speaker 2: two times.

465
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Speaker 7: Yeah, what you got to go on the road, you

466
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Speaker 7: got to play the Giants, you know there, I don't know,

467
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Speaker 7: and then.

468
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Speaker 2: They stopped them in a It's like, wow, that was

469
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Speaker 2: the Giants. So just watch. Don't keep trying to make.

470
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Speaker 7: Conclusions on one game or five games.

471
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Speaker 5: Matchups are important SPACs.

472
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Speaker 8: I don't think people realize that you can go into

473
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Speaker 8: especially if you're talking a divisional game.

474
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Speaker 5: You're talking about being on the road. That was important.

475
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Speaker 8: And then you look and see what they did to

476
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Speaker 8: the Seahawks just a couple of days ago. It translated

477
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Speaker 8: into a really good win for us, and that led

478
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Speaker 8: to the momentum that we have right now. Defensively, of course,

479
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 8: challenges every week, so yes, we don't want to rest

480
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Speaker 8: on our laws challenges every week. Yes I get that,

481
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Speaker 8: But don't degrade us for not playing well when we

482
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Speaker 8: don't win, and then you ignore when we play well

483
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Speaker 8: when we do win.

484
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Speaker 5: So that's all. That's just the narrative I'm talking about.

485
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Speaker 8: As far as coaches are concerned, yes, they are always

486
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Speaker 8: looking to get better.

487
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Speaker 5: They're never going to.

488
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Speaker 8: Try and rest on what they did the previous game,

489
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Speaker 8: try to build on it not rest on it. So

490
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Speaker 8: I'm sure that's where the Cowboys are. But the narrative itself,

491
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 8: it can be annoying as hell.

492
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Speaker 7: So San Francisco, by the way, has to play Kansas

493
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Speaker 7: City before that Seattle and then Kansas City.

494
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Speaker 4: They're playing Seattle on Thursday. Oh they are at Seattle

495
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Speaker 4: on Thursday. Okay, what are theyre? Two and three right now?

496
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Speaker 2: Two and three?

497
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Speaker 4: So they okay, short week at Seattle, Seattle smarting after

498
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Speaker 4: losing to the Giants. That's a toss up game, right,

499
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: it is all right?

500
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Speaker 2: And then but let's say they lose City.

501
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Speaker 4: Let's say they lose, then they get Kansas City at home,

502
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Speaker 4: I think right? Or is it home? Let's say they

503
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 4: could be two and five with the Cowboys.

504
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: Coming there, or three and four.

505
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Speaker 4: So do you want them to be do you want

506
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Speaker 4: them to be two and five or do you prefer

507
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Speaker 4: them to be three and four?

508
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Speaker 8: I don't care when we come in. You know, when

509
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 8: we come in, they don't care what the record is.

510
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what the narrative is before that. When

511
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Speaker 8: we come in, it's everything the slate, ist.

512
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Speaker 2: White, whatever their record is.

513
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Speaker 7: I don't want everybody building them up, right, right, San Francisco,

514
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 7: and then if you happen to win.

515
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Speaker 5: What they've been having problems all year? Yeah, yeah, the

516
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: same thing. They they need to fix that.

517
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, right, well, how much are they trying to

518
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: get Christian McCaffrey back as soon as possible? And nothing

519
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: against George Mason, who has done well, but he's not

520
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffery. Yeah. By the way, one more, one final

521
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: note on the Steelers. But you're talking about the Cowboys

522
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Speaker 4: defense and how they performed and quarterback situation in Pittsburgh.

523
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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin as his press conference on Tuesday, and Tomlin

524
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Speaker 4: said today Russell Wilson is scheduled to be a full

525
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Speaker 4: participant in practice on Wednesday, he'll get he'll get reps

526
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Speaker 4: with the second team as not to disrupt Justin's preparation.

527
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Speaker 4: And another Beat reporter says Tomlin speaks quite different diferently

528
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: about his quarterbacks this week. Last couple of weeks, came

529
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Speaker 4: in basically said Justin Fields is starting. Didn't say that

530
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: this week, said he will see how Russell Wilson gets

531
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Speaker 4: through the week of practice. First, sure sounds like there

532
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: is a good chance Wilson starts if he proves he's

533
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 4: healthy during the week.

534
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Speaker 7: Well, last week someone asked him what does Justin Fields

535
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Speaker 7: have to do to keep the job, and he was

536
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 7: pretty plain and well.

537
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: And win, just win.

538
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Speaker 8: That's what I like about reading between the lines. I'm

539
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 8: telling you what I said. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, Yeah,

540
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 8: that's what I like about.

541
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Speaker 2: That was good, just Whin.

542
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know we count wins, so yeah, we'll see

543
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 7: what happens there. But your good point about u zim

544
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 7: uh And you know what they had to piece together

545
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 7: in that game, you without your top four defensive ends.

546
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Speaker 4: And how about what it says to all of the

547
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: starters whenever they get back, whether it's Mike Good or

548
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: on Bland, d Law whatever, what you can do when

549
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: everybody does their job. Yes, in a discipline way, that's right.

550
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 7: And young guys probably aggressively, Yeah, young guys probably aren't freelancing.

551
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 8: They were aggressive. I mean they weren't sitting back catching blows.

552
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 8: They were aggressive moving the line of scrimmage, especially on

553
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 8: the defensive line. They were moving the line of scrimmage backwards.

554
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 8: And every time now he tried to run the ball,

555
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 8: he was not comfortable. And I know that he was

556
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Speaker 8: looking forward to being comfortable because he saw the film.

557
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: Not this time.

558
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 7: That was impressive because I'm I'm guessing Chauncey Golston probably

559
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 7: had the best.

560
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Speaker 5: Game of his career five tackles.

561
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Speaker 7: He had five tackles, a half a sack, and a

562
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Speaker 7: quarterback hitting. And he's used to just kind of rotating in.

563
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Speaker 7: But again, sometimes and I would have to look this up,

564
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Speaker 7: when you get fifty ninety percent of the snack apps

565
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 7: fifty two snaps, you're playing right, You get into some rhythm,

566
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Speaker 7: you kind of start seeing things, and you play well.

567
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Speaker 7: Jerry had a good answer to that. By the way

568
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Speaker 7: he said he.

569
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Speaker 2: Was talking about young guys.

570
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Speaker 7: He goes, I like any opportunity we have to play

571
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Speaker 7: young players, And of course I don't like the fact

572
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Speaker 7: that we have to do that because of injuries, but

573
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Speaker 7: I do like to see these young players play because

574
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Speaker 7: you have to handicap a team. Your season is one

575
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 7: and a half college seasons long. I used to say

576
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Speaker 7: two college seasons. So take a player that's at one

577
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Speaker 7: level of maturation or one level of capability. When we

578
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 7: start a training camp and you take it all the

579
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 7: way through January or the next year, if you will,

580
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 7: you've got a guy that has now evolved. And if

581
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 7: you think back to training camp, he kept talking about

582
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 7: guys that he thought should have played more. The young

583
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 7: guy should have played more last year, didn't get snaps. Well,

584
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 7: they're getting snaps now. Think about where Overshown would be

585
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 7: if he had played last year and now what he's

586
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 7: doing right now. But he's getting snaps, right, So you

587
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 7: get snaps, maybe you improve if you're capable of improving.

588
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 8: I've told you I got into it, got into it

589
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 8: with Clarence and Jacques and Taylor. Yeah, you know these

590
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 8: guys that the media, you know, some of you guys

591
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 8: are just very cynical about things. That's just the way

592
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 8: it is. And you guys rightfully, so right rightfully. So

593
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 8: the Cowboys have warranted that because of the failures that

594
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 8: they've had in recent years and for about twenty damn years.

595
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: But anyway, so I understand that.

596
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 8: But I'm talking to them as what a player thinks.

597
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 8: You can believe what you want as a player, I

598
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 8: can't believe what you write about me.

599
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: I know me better than you know me. You see

600
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

601
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Speaker 8: So if you're talking about what my potential is, then

602
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 8: you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Only

603
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 8: I know what my potential is. And that's the way

604
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 8: all of those practice team players need to think. Just

605
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 8: because I'm practice team player, I'm only that now. If

606
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 8: I don't do well, then I may remain that or

607
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 8: maybe less than that. But if I do well, then

608
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 8: that's me writing my own narrative. That's not me saying

609
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 8: I am a practice player, so I don't deserve to

610
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 8: be out there.

611
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: I don't understand the mentality.

612
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Speaker 8: Of anyone letting someone else determine what your wealth is

613
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 8: or what your greatness is. That's my problem, and so

614
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 8: mine is from an optimistic view. I believe that they

615
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 8: can do better until they show me they can't.

616
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 7: That's what you know what, And that happens. I think

617
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 7: it happens in all walks of life.

618
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: It does.

619
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Speaker 4: Think it does.

620
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Speaker 7: If you have a coach, that's the quality control coach, right,

621
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 7: and you might have to go somewhere else to become

622
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 7: the wide receiver coach because here you're still the quality

623
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 7: control coach, even though they promoted you.

624
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: I can remember newspaper business.

625
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 7: We had a guy and uh he was the high

626
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 7: school writer and his nickname was high school, right, and

627
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 7: he was never going to get a.

628
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Chance to move up.

629
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Speaker 7: The high school there, right, Yeah, and he would have

630
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: to go somewhere else to get a job. That's like, oh,

631
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 7: you can cover college football, you're not just high school.

632
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 7: And sometimes that's.

633
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Speaker 8: And they might even bring an entirely fresh new look

634
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 8: into whatever they do, right.

635
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

636
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: So it happens with players, it happens Gegon.

637
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Speaker 8: And once again, I get I get the you know,

638
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 8: with jaded, with jaded around here. I get that, but

639
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna I'm not just gonna force that thought

640
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 8: process on somebody else who hadn't been here. If you're

641
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 8: a practice player, man, show me you're not a practice player.

642
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: First. You showed me that, then that you are not

643
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: that guy anymore.

644
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 7: I remember at one point I showed up to do

645
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 7: something with baseball and somebody goes, well, I thought you

646
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 7: were a football writer.

647
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: It's like, seriously, it's like it's sports.

648
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 5: I'm right, I'm a writer.

649
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm a writer. Are the people playing?

650
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: I think I could try.

651
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: This, right?

652
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, jeez, except you don't do well.

653
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 7: Hey, I spent my time in jack right, I knew

654
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 7: about Jackson State Elmore, Mississippi.

655
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 5: Valley that you'll have.

656
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: An opportunity to cover the Grand Prix of Arlington. I

657
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: did the ad car come into Arlington in twenty twenty

658
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: press conference happening here in the last hour.

659
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's all through.

660
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Speaker 5: The entertainment district.

661
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had that nice.

662
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 7: Nice There was some sort of was it NASCAR or

663
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 7: what the road race out like at the airport in

664
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: Addison around Oh?

665
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was what was it? It was a that

666
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: wasn't it was a Grand Prix. Yeah, it's like twenty

667
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, bro eighteen fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Ago and out at the Cotton Bowl too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had it there too. That was Formula one.

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Speaker 8: I guess what No, they had they had Indy Andy

671
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Speaker 8: was in Addie, wasn't in Addison?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was.

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Speaker 2: That was It was small smaller smaller.

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Speaker 5: No, the first time was a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: I've tried to remember it because.

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Speaker 7: Uh I actually, of course this guy is speaks, drove

677
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Speaker 7: the car over there, speaks to your point.

678
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Speaker 2: But I covered it.

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Speaker 4: No, okay, you said that you could cover it. I

680
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Speaker 4: can't cover cars. In fact, it was a Sunday afternoon

681
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Speaker 4: at the Addison Grand Prix and were I was. I

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Speaker 4: can't remember. I guess I was working for Channel eleven,

683
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Speaker 4: or maybe I was working for Channel five, which would

684
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Speaker 4: have been then. That would have been thirty years ago.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was. There was thirty years ago.

686
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Speaker 4: I was Channel five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety five, ninety six, Yes, And a

689
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Speaker 4: guy named irv Hair won the race, and like we

690
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Speaker 4: had a five thirty newscast and the top of the newscast,

691
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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to go on live.

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Speaker 11: I got no information on this race. I know nothing

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Speaker 11: about auto racing. All I know is that a guy

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Speaker 11: named irv Hair won the race. And I got so

695
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Speaker 11: much crap from people about this life. God would I said,

696
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Speaker 11: and herv Hair won the race? Uh yeah, irv Hair

697
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Speaker 11: won the right. We didn't have internet back. I couldn't

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Speaker 11: even look up where irv Hair was from. I had nothing.

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Speaker 5: Why if they throw you on there with no info?

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Speaker 4: Man, nobody else. I was the sports guy. I'm supposed

701
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Speaker 4: to know about this stuff, and you know, you're in

702
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Speaker 4: a position you can't even see what's going on in

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Speaker 4: the race.

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Speaker 11: You know nothing about anything. There's no TV monitors, nothing.

705
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Speaker 11: All I knew was that irv Hair won the race.

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Speaker 11: So I spent two minutes talking about IRV hair.

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Speaker 8: Won the race, and your dad is like, boy, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you need You'll never make it.

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Speaker 4: You need to stick to them traditional sports.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The first first auto race I ever covered, well.

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Speaker 4: He knew I knew nothing about cars. As he tried

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Speaker 4: to get and teach me how to change change the

714
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Speaker 4: oil and I'm not My mom was going still how

715
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Speaker 4: to do that.

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Speaker 5: He thought I was gonna be a mechanical, like, you

717
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Speaker 5: do not know, your son.

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Speaker 7: I was in South Carolina and they sent me to

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Speaker 7: cover this dirt track race. I show up with remember

720
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Speaker 7: back in the day we had white painter pants or whatever.

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Speaker 7: Well it's red dirt there by the way. And they

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Speaker 7: told me that this guy had some winning streak going uh,

723
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Speaker 7: and that there was a bounty at them that if

724
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Speaker 7: you beat him, you get all this money. Right, So

725
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Speaker 7: I don't know nothing about car racing, and I go

726
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Speaker 7: out there and I'm covering it and dirt's flying all

727
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Speaker 7: over the place and all I see is on the

728
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Speaker 7: finish line the guy that had the bouty autum his

729
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Speaker 7: break lights come on. He slowed down on purpose so

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Speaker 7: the guy could be and they were going to split.

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Speaker 4: Right and do it. So it was like wrestling.

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Speaker 2: It was sixed, and I asked the question right, and.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: They were going to run my ass right out of the.

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Speaker 2: That's no more racing.

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Speaker 2: Okay? I got one for you.

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Speaker 7: we don't know, okay, but I'm guessing it's not this week.

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Speaker 7: My observation of how Cowboys trait guys that have been

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Speaker 7: out that long is they bring them back. They practice

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Speaker 7: him one week, then they practice him the next week

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Speaker 7: and figure, okay, you're released to play if it all

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Speaker 7: goes well.

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Speaker 5: And then he's got to ramp up.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So we're talking a guy that's going to be

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Speaker 7: out what he's already missed five five games, right, and

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Speaker 7: a week before that, so he's been out six weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take two weeks.

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Speaker 7: So even if they started practicing this week and then

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Speaker 7: the bye. You can work out, ramp up conditioning, but

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Speaker 7: they don't practice, So then would he practice.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's an individual. Yeah, he doesn't need practice as

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Speaker 8: much as he needs conditioning conditions.

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Speaker 7: And we're seeing him on the resistance cords recently, so

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Speaker 7: maybe by San Francisco or Atlanta, I would think he's back.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 7: The other issue here, and you're a defensive guy, there's

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Speaker 7: this deal going on that Ceedee Lamb gets a bunch

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Speaker 7: of receptions in the first half and doesn't get him

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Speaker 7: in the second half, and you can take this game

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Speaker 7: because there's a there was A. He had five catches

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Speaker 7: for sixty two yards. And now he's recorded at least

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Speaker 7: four receptions in thirty eight consecutive games, tying Julio Jones

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Speaker 7: for the second longest streak in NFL. His of consecutive

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Speaker 7: games with four receptions, the longest is Michael Thomas Saints

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Speaker 7: Michael Thomas, He's forty three straight with four plus. So

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Speaker 7: in this last game, Lamb got his four receptions in

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Speaker 7: the first half fifty two yards, in the second half

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Speaker 7: one catch for nine yards. So to me, my logical

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Speaker 7: answer is teams are just defenses.

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Speaker 5: True, true, true, and our offenses are just as well.

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Speaker 8: You know, we force it into and force it in

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Speaker 8: to and force it into him in the first half,

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Speaker 8: second half, you're looking for us to come back to him. Now,

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Speaker 8: we've got other targets that we can use. So sometimes

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Speaker 8: the tail does wag the dog. In that situation, they

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Speaker 8: might force us to go away from Stephen from Stephen A.

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Speaker 8: What the hell am I tired to go away from

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Speaker 8: CD Lamb? But you could also bait them into changing

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Speaker 8: their coverage and then we go away from him. You

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Speaker 8: understand what I'm saying, right, So, yeah, we could force

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Speaker 8: it to happen, or we can be ready for it

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Speaker 8: to happen when it happens organically. So I could take

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Speaker 8: it either way. I think what I'm looking at right

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Speaker 8: now is any game that I go into, I want

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Speaker 8: to keep them frustrated. If I'm in the secondary, if

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Speaker 8: I'm playing against cdee Lamb, I want to keep he

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Speaker 8: and Deck.

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Speaker 5: In this this zone of.

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Speaker 8: Unknown right right, I want them to continue to have

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Speaker 8: the little problems. I would I would hope that that

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Speaker 8: would work to our advantage. What Pittsburgh didn't realize was

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Speaker 8: our backups are ready to play because we didn't have

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Speaker 8: to go to him in the second half.

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Speaker 5: In the second half, we went to Ferguson.

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Speaker 8: In the second half, we went more, kept going to Jayden,

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Speaker 8: and they kept thinking, oh, they're going to have to

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Speaker 8: force it to see the one of these these plays,

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Speaker 8: which we did. But we were able to come away

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Speaker 8: from that and still be productive with three hundred and

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Speaker 8: fifty yards passing.

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Speaker 2: So Tobert had two catches in the first half, ended

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Speaker 2: up with seven.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and by it was we were forced to So

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Speaker 8: you want to away, Lamb got we got somebody I

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Speaker 8: can go somewhere, and which is what the way it

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Speaker 8: was with cook That's the way it was with Cooks.

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Speaker 8: Right now, Cooks not here told this our guy.

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Speaker 7: And if you think about it last year with Cooks,

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Speaker 7: the first seven games he didn't have that many catches.

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Speaker 7: They weren't going to him, and then the second half

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Speaker 7: it picked up.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's kind of hard to go to him when

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Speaker 5: you got ceed Lamb working on him.

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Speaker 7: And that's what I asked Dak that question in training

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Speaker 7: camp and he goes, well, we got CD Lamb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 7: But by the second half of the season, now people

882
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Speaker 7: are like, okay, this guy can't beat us. Well, now

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Speaker 7: things opened up for Cooks. And that's what happened in

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Speaker 7: training camp without CD there Lamb. I mean, Cooks was

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Speaker 7: he was the star of training camp.

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Speaker 8: Would you ever as a as a I'll put it

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Speaker 8: like this, you will never take away the attention of

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00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 8: Ceede Lamb for Ferguson, right, Okay, That's why Ferguson's always

889
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 8: going to be open. That's why Whitten was always going

890
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: to be open. The tight end, to me is a

891
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 8: quarterback's best friend. He is his best friend, especially if

892
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 8: you're in a dire situation.

893
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 7: Because you got to figure out how to cover the

894
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 7: tight end. Right, if you're giving up something to cover

895
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 7: the receiver, Now do you have a safety or a's.

896
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 8: Going to do that unless you're Kelsey or somebody you

897
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 8: saw last night.

898
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: Right.

899
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying, Wide open the whole game.

900
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 7: And I'm sitting there going, well, how do they miscoverages? Well, no,

901
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 7: that's what they.

902
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: We are able to stretch. Thank god they have mahomes.

903
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: We have that.

904
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 8: We're able to stretch the defense to open it up

905
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 8: underneath for your tight end. And you know if you

906
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 8: have that running back, for a running back to also

907
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 8: damage you right in the passing.

908
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 7: Game because a lot of times what they do with

909
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 7: wide receivers is they want to take away that slant. Yes,

910
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 7: so the linebacker can drop into that open area, right,

911
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 7: and then the dB knows he's got help. But if

912
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 7: the linebacker's got to take care of something else, yes,

913
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 7: then or doesn't then some albums.

914
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 8: I love it when they take care of every They

915
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 8: take care of the wide receiver and throughout the entire

916
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 8: game because it's doing those drives like we just had

917
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 8: the other night. That's when you need Ferguson And that's

918
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 8: when he showed up. That's when Dak looked for him,

919
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 8: those important situations to where you can look at the

920
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 8: speed and be dazzled by the catches all you want

921
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: on the outside, Ferguson is the guy that's going to

922
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 8: be that. He's going to be the guy that makes

923
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 8: the difference for you.

924
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 7: And so the natural reaction is, well, what happens to

925
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 7: CD and Dak in the second half? They don't think

926
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 7: about the other team.

927
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 8: It'd be great if we could force it to him,

928
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 8: and he did try. Yeah, and that's why you got

929
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 8: to turnover this. And as I looked at that play,

930
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 8: I don't know what happened, but I kind of see

931
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 8: where it could be a back shoulder fade, right, But

932
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 8: I don't think Ceede was expecting the ball at.

933
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: All, Like he didn't think.

934
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 8: He didn't think no because us there on point with that,

935
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 8: I mean, a backshow of the fate will have been.

936
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: A good pass.

937
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what Dak was thrown.

938
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 8: Yes, running, Well, why would you keep running if there's

939
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 8: a defender there already?

940
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 5: It's like you ran into the ran into the coverage.

941
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 8: But it doesn't seem as if he thought he was

942
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 8: being looked at and regardless of what that is going on.

943
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 8: I think the fact that we won that game that

944
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: puts a nice little band aid on that for now,

945
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 8: and that gives them a week to work on whatever issues.

946
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Speaker 4: They have it.

947
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: And god forbid, if we didn't have the sideline.

948
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 5: Camera man tell me about it.

949
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 7: We got to see everything and then interpret, even though

950
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 7: you don't know what they're saying.

951
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, yeah, I know, chewing dak out right.

952
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's goot. Well we used up our

953
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: extra five minutes.

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00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 5: We don't need Bill.

955
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: We did okay without Bill, didn't we. All Right?

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Speaker 7: That's Mick shots here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

957
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 7: we'll be back tomorrow on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 5: Go Cowboys.

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