1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from house 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hello, welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Fair Dowdy and I'm Delna Chalko reboarding and to Blena 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and I are going to continue our annual tradition of 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: recapping the year in historical and archaeological fine um. We've 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: already covered a few in our most recent episode on 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: this I don't know all sorts of things, everything from 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: terra cotta warriors to a possible lost Da Vinci artwork, 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: but we're going to be continuing on with the list today. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that you should probably if she the 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: warning again that we've got an issue before every one 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: of these episodes, which one, it's not always stuff that 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: was dug up this year. It's not always stuff that's 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: dug up, and sometimes just news about things that were 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: dug up a while ago, or it's things that were 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: unearthed maybe from your attic or from although we don't 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: have any of those on this lie that we don't 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: have any of those. We we do have some some 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: interesting entries though, but we should say again that it's 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: not a comprehensive list. There are many things that we 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: could not include. Of course, every year is full of discoveries, 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and we just included a few that we found the 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: most interesting. And once we think that you guys will 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: like to we we always sort of try to tailor 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: a few of these two topics we know our listeners 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: are particularly interested in, and I think the first entry 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: on the list certainly fits that bill. It's about vampires, 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and we know that you guys like vampires a lot. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: Vampires in general are having a moment right now. They've 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: been in the news a lot. In part of that 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: is because of pop culture kind of stuff, but that's 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: not our angle of course. Um, they've also been in 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: the news because several vampire burials have been discovered this year. 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: The first work and discussed was a June discovery of 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: a vampire pirate double header there in Bulgaria. Yeah, the 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: seven hundred year old skeleton found in Soza Pole near 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: the Black Sea in Bulgaria is believed to be that 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: of the pirate Crivit, which means crooked. The remains have 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: been staked down with metal rods, which was a traditional 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: form of penning a suspected vampire after death and burial. 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: So thanks in part to the vampire pop culture rage, 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: and you all know which one I'm talking about. The 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: fine became a tourist attraction almost immediately, with visitors flocking 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: to the Sozopol churchyard, until the remains were finally removed 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: to the Natural History Museum in Sofia. Around the same time, 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: two more steak skeletons were discovered from a similar time frame, 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: about a hundred years earlier than the famous Vladi and Paler. 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: By the way, they're the latest additions to the roughly 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: one hundred vampire graves that have been found in the region. 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: So we have to ask what is the deal with 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: staked skeletons and and believing in vampires in the first place. 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: According to the Natural History Museum director Boza Dar Dmitrov, 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: who was quoted in the l A Times, if a 54 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: community suspected that a deceased person might be terrorizing them 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: in death, he said quote, a group of brave men 56 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: would reopen the graves and pierce the corpses with iron 57 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: or wooden rods. Iron rod was used for the richer vampires. 58 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Uh so, just the the logical explanation of that the 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: pinning was supposed to prevent the vampires from actually exiting 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: their graves from from rising and terrorizing people. But what 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I found so fascinating about this story is that, uh, 62 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: not too long after, there was a great Smithsonian article. 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 1: And this doesn't really count in our Unearthed in twelve. 64 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: It's an article, but it did have a lot of 65 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: people talking, a lot of people sharing it with us too. 66 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: It was by Abigail Tucker. It was the October issue, 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: and it was about the Great New England vampire panic, 68 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: where the bodies of suspected vampires were similarly descraded after death. 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: And Michael Bell, who studied the New England vampires for decades, 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: has documented about eighty exhamations from the late seventeen hundreds 71 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: to the eighteen hundreds, mostly in New England, and interestingly, 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: these panics often happened during tuberculosis outbreaks, so one family 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: member might get sick and die, then as other sickened, 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: the first to go was blamed as the vampire. Exhamation 75 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: was the only way to stop the cycle, and there 76 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: were various solutions for dealing with the corpse, flipping it 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: upside down, binding the feet, even beheading it. In one 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: Rhode Island case, the heart of a young woman who 79 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: had died of tuberculosis and was suspected of being a vampire, 80 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: was burned and the ashes of her heart were fed 81 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: to her sick brother. Pretty disturbing. We had to mention 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: that rash of New England vampire cases though, and the 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: panic though, because I think what's most fascinating about this 84 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Bulgarian fine is that it's just one of many international 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: vampire graves. Apparently. In fact, in November of this year, 86 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: a skeleton that was originally found in England in nineteen 87 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: fifty nine was finally analyzed and researchers uncovered clear signs 88 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: of another vampire burial. There were metal state through the 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: heart and the ankles in the shoulders, so clearly this 90 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: has been going on around the world for a very 91 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: long time. Um, but is really getting in the news 92 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot these days. I think partly because people are 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: so fascinated by by vampires. So the next time I'm 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: on our list isn't quite a stylish I guess as 95 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: as vampire news as maybe it's it's more old news. 96 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: But on March fifteen BC, Julius Caesar was stabbed to death. 97 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: As we know right obviously that murder has been covered 98 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: pretty well in literature as well as classical texts, which 99 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: provide details not only on the date and the conspirators involved, 100 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: but on the location as well. The Curia of Pompey. 101 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Our twenty twelve discovery, though does relate to that site. 102 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Archaeologists have finally found physical evidence to back up the 103 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: assertion that Caesar was in fact murdered at the Curia 104 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: of Pompey. They discovered a ten foot wide and six 105 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: and a half foot tall concrete structure at the curias base, 106 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and according to Discovery News, Antonio monterro So of the 107 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Spanish National Research Council said of the find quote, we 108 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: always knew that Julius Caesar was killed in the Curia 109 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: of Pompey on March b c. Because the classical texts 110 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: passed on so but so far no material evidence of 111 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: this fact, so often depicted in historical painting and cinema, 112 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: has been discovered. So this is a pretty big deal. 113 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's backing up something that was already known, 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: but it is backing it up and and interestingly to 115 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: the discovery also supports another point made by classical texts, 116 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: and that's that after Caesar's murder the curia was closed 117 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: and turned into a memorial for him, and it suspected 118 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: that this concrete uh structure that's been found is part 119 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: of that memorial. In two thousand twelve actually saw a 120 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of Rome related discoveries, like a horde of gold 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Crusades era coins found in Israel, but we thought the 122 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: recent analysis of an ancient Roman curse was worth including 123 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: here also, so three years ago, a third or fourth 124 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: century tablet scroll was found in East Farley, England and 125 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the remains of a building from the same era, and 126 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: researchers at first tried to decipher its contents without unrolling 127 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the fragile artifact using neutron computed tomography imaging, according to 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Discovering News, and when that didn't work, they carefully unrolled 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: it to view the writing with an electron microscope. From 130 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: there it was passed on to Roger Tohman, a late 131 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Roman history expert, who deciphered the contents as as of 132 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: personal names, some in Latin, others Celtic. Some of the 133 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: names were written upside down or backwards, indicating that to 134 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: the scroll was a curse meant to bring misfortune on 135 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: those listed, and it still is unclear what this curse's 136 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: purpose was. Um. There's actually some some of the lettering 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: is yet to be to be read, to be deciphered. UM. 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: But most cursed tablets found in Great Britain, and there 139 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: have been kind of a lot, about two hundred, include 140 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: specific instructions or hopes for God's to reign down destruction 141 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: on enemies UM, often as a reaction to a ff 142 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: So it's believed that this is a list of names 143 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: of people who might have wanted to watch their back 144 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: in the third or worth century. One example not from 145 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: from this particular scroll, but one from Bath, for instance, 146 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: where about half of the tablets have been found incidentally 147 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: praised that the victim will become quote as liquid as water, 148 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: so very colorful sort of curses to appropriately. UM. They 149 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't just be left out and about though. One reason 150 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: why they were scrolls is to protect the writing, so 151 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: it wouldn't just be available for anybody to read. UM. 152 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: And then they would either be touched somewhere in the ground, 153 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, by a well or grave um springs. Maybe 154 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: that's why perhaps there's been so many found in Bath 155 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: or nailed to a temple wall, and the recent find 156 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: fits into that. Later category, since it was found at 157 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: the ruins of what was believed to be a temple. 158 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: The next entry on our list has to do with 159 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the Maya, for whom it has been a fairly big year, 160 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: bigger than say, Yeah, I mean, there's the whole apocalypse thing, 161 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: which if you're listening to this podcast right now, I 162 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: guess didn't happen, thankfully, But thanks to the doomsday calendar predictions, 163 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: there's been a huge up swell in all things my 164 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: history and culture, and there was also this major archaeological find, 165 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: for instance, something that draws a bit of a tension 166 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: away from that calendar obsession and highlights the cultural and 167 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: artistic abilities of the Maya. Yeah, certainly points out there's 168 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: there's more to the Maya than the calendar, so if 169 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna indulge that research interest, you might as well 170 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: go even further with it. But it is, of course, 171 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: the Temple of the Night Sun one of the biggest 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: archaeological discoveries ofive. I'd say, um. It was a once 173 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: brilliant red structure covered in these incredibly detailed stucco masks 174 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: that was just recently uncovered from the Guatemalan jungle, where 175 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: it had sort of been swallowed up by by greenery 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: over the years. Stephen Houston, who is a Brown University archaeologist, 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: an now it's the find in July and hopes that 178 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: it's going to shed some more light on the Elvutz 179 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: dynasty and the Maya civilization and structure as a whole. 180 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: According to National Geographic News, the Maya weren't strongly centralized 181 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: like the Inco or the ass Tech. Instead, they were 182 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: a collection of loosely aligned city states and els. It's 183 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: while one of the smaller kingdoms was clearly angling for 184 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: a strong impression here. So Houston uncovered the site in 185 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, following decades old Looters tunnels, and 186 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, the Diablo Pyramid was explored, a 187 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: structure topped by a tomb and a royal palace. The 188 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: temple lies behind the pyramid and had been interred by 189 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: the Maya, something that allowed for its remarkable preservation. Yeah, 190 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: and and we we kind of hinted at the stucco 191 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: masks and all of that. Uh And and that's really 192 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: the main thing I mean. And in addition to being 193 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: this blood red color originally, which would have meant that 194 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: it just glowed in the rising sun in the in 195 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: the setting sun. But the masks represent a whole new 196 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: angle for for Maya religious studies too, and open a 197 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: lot of possibilities there. Houston believes that they represent the 198 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: faces of the Maya Sun God, whose face would, according 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: to their beliefs, change as he crossed the sky. So 200 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: it would start as a shark face in the morning 201 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: because the sun was rising over the Caribbean. It in 202 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the day, probably when it was like 203 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: really hot and intense in the area that's now Guatemala, 204 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: it would turn to this blood drinking mad creature, and 205 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: then later in the day at dusk, it would turn 206 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: to a jaguar's face, because that was of course when 207 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the jaguars were just waking up and coming out to 208 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: hunt after sleeping all day. Um. But these stucco representations 209 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: of the Sun God depict all these different figures of 210 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: its phases that would go through during the day. It's 211 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: also believed that the tomb atop the Diabolo Pyramid was 212 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: that of the first Elzet king, who lived sometime between 213 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: three fifty and fo so there's still a lot to 214 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: learn from the spine. Though it was abandoned in the 215 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: fifth century quite suddenly, but it's fairly unique among my 216 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: ruins for its completeness. Usually they'd tear down a structure 217 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: and build on top of it. Also, only thirty of 218 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: the facade has been uncovered so far, so a lot 219 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: to come here probably. Yeah. It reminds me a little 220 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: bit of the last episode we did on the Terracotta 221 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: warriors and and how much there is still to learn 222 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: there as well. According to David fried al Though, who's 223 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: my archaeologist, he said, quote, the site will certainly advance 224 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: our knowledge of early classic Maya religion and ritual practice. 225 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: So um, a lot to be learned and pretty pretty neat. 226 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I I certain this is one. I urge everybody to 227 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: go check out pictures of it too. It's worth worth 228 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: taking a look at. But there has been another pretty 229 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: cool Maya discovery in twelve and it's one that had 230 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: me thinking back to our episode on historical alcohol, because, 231 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: as we learned in that episode, a lot of discoveries 232 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: can made be made from the gunk and residue that's 233 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: found at the bottom of old cups, old bowls, various 234 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: ancient vessels. This year, dmitriy Zagorevski of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 235 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: and Jennifer low Miller Newman, a doctoral candidate at the 236 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: University of Albany, analyzed the residue found in a thirteen 237 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: hundred year old vessel from the mirror door basin and 238 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: what's today southern Mexico and the vessel read the home 239 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: of his or her tobacco, and sure enough, that's what 240 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: they found inside traces of nicotine. They found this using 241 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: gas chromatography and mass spectrometry and liquid chromatography mass spectrometry. 242 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: This find is particularly notable for two reasons. One, it's 243 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: the first physical evidence of the Mayans using tobacco, and 244 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: to the technological methods used promise even better analysis of 245 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: such vessels in the future. And this was why it 246 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: reminded me of the Historical Alcohol Episode so much, because 247 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: if you remember from that show, there's a whole host 248 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: of problems when you're trying to determine what cups and 249 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: other vessels actually contained, and not just because the contents 250 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: are are long dried up and gone. Um. Many vessels 251 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: were of course multi purpose and contain the residues of 252 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: all sorts of of items that they once contained. According 253 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, vessels can also be contaminated by bacteria. 254 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: They can be damaged by water, and no water can 255 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: just wash everything away when they're no longer in use, 256 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: or they can be contaminated after discovery. And and sometimes 257 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: they're even clean too. And I remember again from that 258 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: alcohol episode, archaeologists were horrified by this, and this could happen. 259 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: But if you scrowb out that gunk gets washing away, 260 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: all the all the history of what this could have 261 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: been used for. Um. This piece, though, the one that 262 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: was analyzed, is actually an older fine. It's been a 263 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: long term resident of the Library of Congress's collection, but 264 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: fortunately hadn't had all its contents removed. The label on 265 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the vessel to Deplina, you mentioned that it's the home 266 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: of his or her tobacco. That's fairly unique as well. 267 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: And the only other case of researchers finding a labeled 268 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: vessel like this actually containing what it was supposed to 269 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: contain came twenty years ago with a cup of cacao. 270 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: So I guess it would be tricky to cook in 271 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: a Maya kitchen if everything labeled differently. One of the 272 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: things that's really fascinating about the story, though, is the 273 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: information about how the Mayan's used tobacco. According to low Miller, 274 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Newman and Discovery News, they ruled out the possibility that 275 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: the vessel was an ashtray since there were no chemical 276 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: calling cards present for nicotine byproducts, but it wasn't likely 277 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: that the Maya would have been smoking the tobacco in 278 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: the first place. It was empowered form, likely mixed with 279 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: lime and mixed in a drink two or maybe used 280 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: as snuff. It was strong enough to possibly be hallucinogenic 281 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: and serve the handy double purpose of repelling serpent. So 282 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: there you go. I think that seems like a fitting 283 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: way to conclude our our episode with this hallucinogenic Maya 284 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: residue inserpent repellent. Yeah, something to amuse upon. I guess 285 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: if you're getting your New Year celebration money, I don't 286 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: know what do you think, Sarah? Will your celebration be 287 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: that exciting? I don't think it's going to be that exciting, 288 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: But it's also maybe a better image to have than 289 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: the staked vampires and the Roman curses too. I don't 290 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: want to send people off into the New Year thinking 291 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: of those sort of things. So, yeah, the Cacao maybe, 292 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, think about stuff like that. I think the 293 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: interesting thing about all these discoveries though, is just how 294 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: they show how I mean, we've pointed this out before, 295 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: how history is this living, breathing thing. It's always changing, 296 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: instantly changing, and um the discovery of the temple especially 297 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: reminded me of that because we're always talking about these 298 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: lost sight that are discovered, usually in the nineteenth century 299 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: or the twentieth century, UM, and it's hard to imagine, 300 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, people not realizing that King Tut's tomb was there, 301 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: or or all sorts of of these sites that we've 302 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: discussed that just seem like major international attractions now you 303 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: just go heritage site. But it's cool to think that 304 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: there are plenty of places like that still out there, 305 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: that there can still be this beautiful, stunning temple that's 306 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: just hidden in the overgrowth in the guatemal And jungle 307 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to stumble upon it. Pretty cool. Unfortunately, 308 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: there are many dedicated researchers and archaeologists and historians out 309 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: there who are working on all of this all the time, 310 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: so we have lots of stuff to talk about. Fun 311 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun for us to do this 312 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: every year. 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