1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonas is Sam your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some great stories coming up, but 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: before that, we have a quick two minute break from 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: the sponsors that keep the show alive. My roommate is 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: trying to replicate my friend. I had to Warner Geneva Convention. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Cloning is illegal. No fizz primarily involves me. Solberry twenty nine, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: My roommate Cassie twenty six, the girl she's stalking male 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight in Simon thirty one, male's fiance and ladies 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Welcome to the white bull Yeah, welcome to 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: whiteboard Topia. Also, what is that name? 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Male? 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: May l m A E L say male? Male? I'm 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: just say male. We live in a city of almost 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: two million, but somehow everyone this nerd circle knows or 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: at least knows of everyone else. By the way, it's 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: comes from Soulberry at ten thirty one. If you want 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: to sm meet your own story, it's good. Our shash 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime separate. It's so I moved to this city 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: for college and ended up staying, as a lot of 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: people often do. I was living alone until I met 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Cassie through a mutual friend about three years ago. I 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: come from a very stable home life subtle flex but okay. 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I have a very close relationship with my mother and stepfather, 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: and I have twin younger brothers that I talked to daily. Cassie, 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: on the other hand, the roommate, I think, was raised 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: by her aunt and uncle. Yes, and was on and 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: off medicine. I don't know what for for a lot 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: of her middle school years. I am already detecting some 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: judgmental vibes from op and some superior than now vibes. 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: But what do you mean, She's just talking about the 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: medicine she was taking, with no ulterior connotations whatsoever. 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I am. I am sensing things. She has no siblings 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: and a voice calls from her aunt, only talking to 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: her maybe once a week. She has her quirks, but 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I thought she was a well adjusted member of society. 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I am hating ope more by the minutes, maybe fematurely. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: We shall see. Cassie and I were at a convention 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: roughly a year ago when we met Simon and Mayl. 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: They had just moved to the area and Simon, Cassie, 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: my roommate, and I hit it off. We found out 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: that we all had quite a few mutual friends, and 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: our friendship was solidified when we all saw each other 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: at a party a week later. Mail was really quiet 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: and reserved the first couple of times we all hang out, 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: but eventually we were all getting along very well. Simon 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: and Mayle are somewhat of a power couple, if that's 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: the correct word. They are both attractive, they have good careers, 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: but they also have a very visible and active presence 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: in these subculture communities and a myriad of hobbies both 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: within and outside of the community. Don't tell me this 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: is another niche community, please, Fenny says it's may L, 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: But unfortunately I have already said mail, so that is 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: what we're sticking a withy. 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: I've also wrote it as male Mayil, so it's a mail. 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: They have a lot of friends surrounding them, and their 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: condo is often the center of operations for weekends, outs 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: or parties. Mail is very no nonsense, take charge kind 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: of person, and Simon is very goofy, open and welcoming. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: They're both very social basically, and after we met them, 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Simon and Mayl got engaged. Shout out to them. It 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: was a long time coming apparently, and everyone was thrilled. 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: While I know that Cassie has a crush on Simon, 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: oh okay, I wonder if that's gonna pop up later. 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: Not surprising. He's very good looking and charismatic. I thought 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: that it was something very innocent, as she had crushes 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: on other people in our friends circle before. But sometime 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: after they were they were engaged. I can't remember the specifics. 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't writing anything down at this point. She said 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: that she was going to flake On plans to hang 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: out at their house and play board games. When I 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: asked why, she said that Mail and Simon had been 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: fighting a lot recently and it made her uncomfortable. Hmm, 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: is this suspicious? Why are we Why are we around 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: when they're fighting all the time? 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Though? 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: What's going on? What? 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: They're not roommates? No, they're not roommates. Nope, So why 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: does it matter? Would you fight that they final? 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Of course, because Op and Cassie are the roommates. Yeah, 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: as we know from the board. 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out how that behavior clues 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: into the fact that she has a crush on Simon. 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're building up with something 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: like I think there's a build up. I was genuinely surprised, 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: as I wasn't aware of her being over there without me, 86 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and every time we were there everything had seemed normal. 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: Cassie insisted that they'd been fighting, giving each other a 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: silent treatment, and kind of joked that I was normally 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: so observant, but I hadn't noticed this. She then said 90 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: that she wasn't surprised that Mail was a cold hearted 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: person and Simon honestly deserved better. Ah, I see it 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: now better like you, Cassie. Yes, she's making all this up. 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: You were my roommates, but you want to make a 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: home in his heart, don't do it? Uh. This seemed 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: like a pretty intense escalation to me, as she had 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: never had a problem with them before and got along 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: with both Simon and Mail, so I suggested that she 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: skip hanging out and take some time to draw things out. 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: She apparently did this a lot in therapy, and making 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: these flow charts seems to help her with graduate school anxiety, 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: worries and difficult decisions. That's kind of cool. Okay, have 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: coping tools that'd be nice, hoping tools. 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: We like that. 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: She and she instead asked if I was still going, 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and when I said yes, immediately said you go, oh 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: oh yog, all right, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm 107 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: gonna go, Da goodam. Just let them be. No, Cassie 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: has to take him. Cassia has to take him. I 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to discourage her, but I said that if 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: she felt uncomfortable, she should tell me and we would leave. 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: We went, and she would laugh and joke with Simon, 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: but when Mail spoke to her or asked her questions 113 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: food drink choices, for example, she got visibly uncomfortable and 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: would I have shut down or pretend not to hear her. 115 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: Simon would glance between me and her a couple of times, 116 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: but no one said anything, even Male. I hadn't seen 117 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Cassie act like this in a long time, and I 118 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: resolved talked to her about it when I got home. Well, 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: that never happened, as we ended up staying the staying 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: the night over at Simon and Mayle's place, and going 121 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: out to brunch the next day, where Cassie seemed perfectly 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: fine with Mail. This is strange. I don't know, something's 123 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: very off. This is starting to get afraid. Yeah, my 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: fear levels are growing like I'm feeling like the Jaws 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: music starting to play, Like, yeah, I don't know exactly 126 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: what's going on in this time, Cassie. It seems once Simon, 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: but there's something else that's Weird's going on. I feel 128 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: like I can't put my finger on it. Chat comment 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: below what you think it is, because I'm not sure. 130 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: I thought it had blown over and Cassie didn't say 131 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: much about her from then on, so nothing sticks out 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: in my head until Cassie announced a couple of weeks 133 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: later that she had a boyfriend. Chat. Okay, so maybe 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: we're in the clear. Maybe Cassie is distracted and doesn't 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: go after Simon. Cassie has always been by, but she's 136 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: casually dated women exclusively since I met her, so this 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: was a new development. I asked if she'd ended up 138 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: bringing him around if she wanted to switch beds. Her 139 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: aunt ended up giving us mattresses a couple of years ago, 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and I took the bigger one at Cassie's insistence. At first, 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: she said yes, and then changed her mind, saying that 142 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: he lived alone and it was easier to go over 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: to his house. Hmmm, over at his house? Do you 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: say yes? Despite this? She never spent the night there, 145 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: although she'd vanished to his house for hours on end. 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: After she got her boyfriend that I never met. Almost 147 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: two months later is when crap really started getting weird. 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: Cassie started getting oddly obsessed with things she'd never cared 149 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: about before, like skincare and hair care. Her face started 150 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: breaking out like crazy, and it seemed to really frustrate her. 151 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: What is what is happen? This is a this is 152 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: a freaking true crime mystery. She was getting packages almost 153 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: every other day from Amazon or other places. I found 154 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: a pamphlet on our side door table for laser eye surgery. 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: She has glasses. She got a brand new phone out 156 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: of the blue and started going to her school's gym 157 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: and starving herself and then binging the next day. That 158 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: does not sound good at all, and constantly told me 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: that she was starting to lose weight. She was looking 160 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: so good. Her front airbags were getting smaller. I thought her, damn, 161 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: oh man, I thought that she was really talking about 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: her car for a second day. That's our censoring, ladies 163 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. The airbags in the front of a woman. 164 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: If you didn't catch that, those all natural airbags, all natural. 165 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: They're naturally shrinking ladies and gentlemen, according according to that 166 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: line of the story. Now, when I was holding laundry 167 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: one day, I found a shirt that was not mine 168 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: and would not fit her. When I asked her about it, 169 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: she quickly snatched it away, saying that she bought it 170 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: for when she would be fit enough to wear it. 171 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: We'd always watched TV shows before, but she was spending 172 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: an abnormal amount of time on her phone now. She 173 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: mentioned setting her phone to French because she wanted to 174 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: learn another language, and I told her to talk to 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Mail or another friend, Stephanie, both are trilingual. She said 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: she'd never ask Mail for help and asked me to 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: not talk about Mail around her. Okay, okay, just to 178 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: just to get a pulse on the chat. Let's put 179 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: up a poll. Cheating or not? Is is Cassie cheating 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: with Simon or not? No? No, no, you say no? 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Pray sell Why he is currently attempting to become male? 182 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: Down to write? Speaking French, changing body types, changing clothing 183 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: tastes everything about me. 184 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: I want to be male. Oh, she wants to be 185 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: a male lady. When I asked why, she said, it 186 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: seems like male was mean to her, and Male's behavior 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: gave her anxiety. At this point, I started writing things 188 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: down as warning flags that were going off, but I 189 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: had no idea why what they meant, or how to 190 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: handle it. She Opie has got a scooby do this 191 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: thing because this is this is getting nutty. By the way, 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: only nine percent say cheating. I think Dakota is probably right, 193 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: but there's still a chance. There's still a chance that 194 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. But I digress, which brings us to yesterday, 195 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: when I got a text from Simon after I came 196 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: home from work and Cassie had left me a text 197 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: saying that she was at her boyfriend's word for word 198 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: off of my phone. So this is Simon Simon, Hey, 199 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: are we hanging tonight? Me? I had no plans why, 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Simon just saw Cassie leaving our development wondered if we 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: forgot about plans we'd made Male's working overtime tonight. So 202 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if there's a miscommunication. There wasn't. I had 203 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: no plans to hang out, and neither did Cassie. Simon, okay, nice, 204 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: just making sure see you on Sunday. I thought about 205 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: texting Cassie at this point, but decided against it. She 206 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: came home that night and her hair was dyed dark brown. 207 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Let me guess who's got dark brown hair? Paula Abdul? 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Could it be male? It's Paula Abdul. 209 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, Paula Abduell definitely does have as we all know, icon, 210 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Paula Abduel has dark brown hair. 211 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, guy, but maybe maybe male does do. Where did 212 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: paul Abduell come from? Hey, I can be random back 213 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: and I can hang with the buys. I'm thinking of 214 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: how good she dances? Oh God, keep it out of 215 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: your mind. So great dancer? Oh God, I haven't seen it. Okay, okay, 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you're a regular Cassie going for Simon over here over 217 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Paula Abduel. Oh God. So I mentioned that Simon had 218 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: texted me about seeing her leave the development, and she 219 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: denied being there. I showed her the message and she 220 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: read it before handing it back to me and saying 221 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: that she didn't think that there would be any board 222 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: games on Sunday. When I asked why, she told me 223 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: that Mail and Simon were considering calling off their engagement 224 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: because Simon wasn't happy with Mail anymore. When I asked 225 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: her what made her think that she got defensive, she 226 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: said Simon talked to her more than I realized, and 227 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: that they had a real connection, and that she was 228 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: privy to all kinds of terrifying things about Mail that 229 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: Simon had told her. She pulled out her phone and 230 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: said that I should believe her, but if I didn't, 231 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: she'd show me the proof. For some reason, seeing the 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: phone was the turning point for me, and it hit 233 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: me all at once. Are you ready for it? Are 234 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: you ready, ladies and gentlemen, Let the tide roll in? 235 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Let the pot roll tide well. Mail had dark brown hair. 236 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: Mail had the exact same phone that Casey suddenly got, 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: and said it to one of Male's primary languages that 238 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: she speaks, French. Mail didn't wear glasses, But Mail, did 239 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: you have ray bands in the exact same style that 240 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Casey suddenly bought pointlessly, because Casey did not wear contacts. 241 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: I'd never met Chad, but all of her descriptions of 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: him sounded suspiciously like Simon. Tall, tan, black wavy hair, 243 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: and really dark brown eyes. So I asked to see 244 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: her phone, and she basically flipped out, saying that I 245 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: should trust her on principle, and we're friends. I wanted 246 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: to ask her about everything I'd noticed, but I had 247 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: no idea how to bring it up, so I sort 248 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: of choked on my words. I mean, how would you, Hey, 249 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I noticed that you're becoming a carbon copy clone of 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: our friend Malor are you trying to steal Simon away 251 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: because you think that'll work. 252 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: The only way that you get anything positive out of 253 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: this situation is if you come to your friend like, Hey, 254 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: don't fight back with me on this. Just know I 255 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: do see that you're copying Male. Hey, I'm not gonna 256 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: judge you. She's gonna let you know that Simon's not 257 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: just going to randomly forget about his fiance not being you, Like, 258 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: you're just not gonna ever be that woman to him. 259 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: You're you're Cassie, she's male. This is a tough one. 260 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm honestly torn between that and telling maybe Simon or 261 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Simon and Male. I'm like, it feels like she's she's 262 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: so far gone that I'm I'm almost wanting to have 263 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Simon and Male ready to protect themselves. I don't know, 264 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: this is this is so weird. This is this is 265 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: this is so strange. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, the 266 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: blind one says you do not do this one on 267 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: one not safe. I don't know. 268 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: It's like you gotta you gotta make a judge of 269 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: like how exactly how unanaged is Cassie really behaving? Like 270 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: you know, you can just put it on the glass, 271 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: like dude, like Simon told me, you were like outside 272 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: of their development, Like what's going on? 273 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: Like why are you you? Why are you doing this? 274 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: There's other men, but Simon is not the last man, 275 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: but there's only one Simon, Simon Cowell. Well, we've gone 276 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: full circle, folks, We've gone full circle. Thank you Dakota 277 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: for completing my circle. My brother. Now, Cassie used the 278 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to yell at me again for not trusting her, 279 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: started crying and said that she was going over to Chad's, 280 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: slamming the door on her way out, and wouldn't you 281 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: know the addresses one two three, Simon's house, just kidding him, 282 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Simon's backyard in the bushes one two three. After a 283 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: couple of minutes of just standing there trying to process things, 284 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I started snooping. I know I shouldn't have, but that's 285 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: water under the proverbial bridge. At this point, I started 286 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: in her bathroom where I where I was faced with 287 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: an unfamiliar array of French skin care products and really 288 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: expensive shampoos and conditioners. The first drawer had all for 289 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: old stuff suave substance store, uh, substance, pharmacy store, skincare stuff, 290 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: et cetera. Can we not say that? Really not? And 291 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: the second drawer had more of old stuff with a 292 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: paper list in it. I opened it and found a 293 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: bunch of things written down, divided by lines. I realized 294 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: after a moment, after a moment, they were brands VNA, FIGHTO, 295 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: made well and that sort of thing. No free sponsors, bleep, 296 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: all of those editors, please come on, don't don't be 297 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: doing that, divided by types, divided by types skincare, clothes, 298 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. Also written were seemingly random words like yoga, 299 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: bangles and peacocks. I am very worried about, Cassie. Yes, sanity, 300 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: insane in the member. This is an acute mental health episode. 301 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: This is maybe it's chronic. 302 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how long this has been going on, 303 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: but it's like this is unwell behavior. 304 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's a fixation. It's an obsession. 305 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: It's like anyone who's in their right mind would look 306 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: at their behavior doing that and being like, oh my god, 307 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: wait a minute, what am I doing? I'll never just 308 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: be able to replicate this person, Like, I have to 309 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: let go of this, this is silly. 310 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: So Cassie worked a part time job and did not 311 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: have a lot of money to spare. So I was 312 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: wondering where she got the money for this brand new 313 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: range of stuff, and wondering if that's why her skin 314 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: was so bad. Now I opened the third drawer and 315 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: sort of got this horrible thinking feeling. The third drawer 316 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of things of males in it, lipsticks, 317 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: hair accessories, and effing pouched with her name embroidered on 318 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: it that I didn't open, and a bunch of other 319 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: stuff that I didn't take stock of. After seeing this, 320 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I immediately texted Simon with hey, is Mail missing anything 321 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: from her bathroom? Simon immediately called me, Yes, Mail had 322 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: been missing things for a while. Now I explained what 323 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: I'd found, and Simon was just confused as lost and lost. 324 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: My god, this is the hey Arnold gum shrine in 325 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: Helga's closet. Helga for all my Nickelodeon children. Yes, this 326 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: is the gum shrine that Helga had of her sick obsession. Yes, 327 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: with mister Arnold football head. 328 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: Yes, dude, that that was me, bro I was. I 329 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: was straight football over here. There she is, there, she is, 330 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: this is every this is her the secret drawer. 331 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: And again I think it's more to like male like, 332 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: she's obsessed. Cassie's obsessed with being this woman who's with Simon. 333 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: It's not even so much Simon as much as being 334 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: the person Simon wants, not being with Simon. In a way, 335 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: that's what it feels like, because it's my my girl, girly, 336 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: you're stealing her bathroom products. 337 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: It's it is. It has reached levels of like we 338 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: gotta get something involved. So Sophia Collen says, get a 339 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: restraining order if you can. She could literally end up 340 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: six feet under. Yeah, we don't know how far she 341 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: how low she's gonna go, So I think I think 342 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: that's fine, just as a precaution. Now, all this ended 343 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: with him asking me to just remove those things from 344 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: her bathroom, put them in a bag, and meet them 345 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: the next day to pick them up so I could 346 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: explain to Mail he said that I was still welcome 347 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: in their house, but Cassie wasn't welcome anymore. He then 348 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: said he'd call and tell her this and hung up. 349 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: I gathered all of Male's things and move them safely 350 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: to my room, and when I came back out into 351 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: the living room, I had five rambling texts from Cassie. 352 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: In them, she blamed me for ruining her chances with Simon. 353 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: She accused me of destroying our friend which good, he's 354 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: he's taken. He's a taken man, and you should not 355 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: want to clone yourself to get him at that. Don't 356 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: do that. Hello. She accused me of destroying our friendship 357 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: by going through her things, saying she'd never forgive me, 358 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: and that Mail was a witch who was lying and 359 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: trying to frame her to keep her insignment apart. I 360 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: immediately called casey uh, and it rang once before it 361 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: went straight to voicemail. At this point, no holds were barred. 362 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: Her laptop was on the arm of the couch and 363 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: I opened. 364 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: All right, brother, we're doing the wrong thing. Now, we 365 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: don't need to do this. We're doing the wrong thing. 366 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: Protect yourself, but uh yeah, leave it, leave it to 367 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: the beaver. Leave it to the police or somebody else. 368 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: At first, I was going to go on her Facebook, 369 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: but everything was was right on the desktop folder in 370 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: in a folder named and and and and and and 371 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and n and and and and and. Pictures of Simon 372 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: from Instagram, Facebook, what little pictures Mail had posted on 373 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: social media, and screenshots of for Twitter updates, pictures of 374 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: their house, the bathroom, the inside of Male's dresser drawers, 375 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: pictures peering through the windows of both of their cars, 376 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: and a picture of Mail's engagement ring. I immediately got 377 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: the contents of the folder and email them to myself 378 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: from Cassie's email account. I tried calling her again and 379 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: it was shuttled to voicemail. I was considering going into 380 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: a room, but thought that that might have also been 381 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: crossing a line, so I just went into my room 382 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: to take stock of what Cassie had stolen from Mail. 383 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: She had taken jewelry, a lot of stuff from the 384 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: French pharmacies, tampons, calling cards, ointments, a lot of lipstick, 385 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: some skincare, mostly sunscreen, hair accessories. Some thing's definitely from 386 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: her bedroom, a small, small pink socks, for example. So 387 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm at a loss I'm convinced there's no boyfriend of Cassie's, 388 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: but I have no idea where she's been when she 389 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: says she's at his house. I'm convinced that something is 390 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: very wrong with Cassie for her to be so weirdly 391 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with Mail, but I had, but I have no 392 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: idea what Mail. Woke up with the flu this morning, 393 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: so we are not meeting tonight. That also, that also 394 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: greatly concerns me. That also greatly concerns me. 395 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh, this is poisoning territory, biochemical getting into KGB tactics territory. 396 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: And Cassie hasn't been home since she left yesterday. I 397 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: tried calling her twice today. 398 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: Simon texted me briefly earlier in the day, but aside 399 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: from that, I haven't spoken to anyone else about this. 400 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: We have an update. We are not even halfway through 401 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: this saga, ladies and gentlemen, But my god, Dakota, please, Riley, please, brothers, 402 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: what do we do here? I think maybe it was 403 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: good to get on the computer and get those files. 404 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: I say, bat them in. Huh, beat them in, bat 405 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: them in, bait them in, Oh, bait them in. Yeah, 406 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: what do you mean they're there there, There is no bait. 407 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: They're already in it. Yeah, but I'm taking photos of 408 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: them in the bushes. Are you saying, bait Cassie, bait 409 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Cassie in, she broke in, Get Cobs involved. Boom, you're stuck. 410 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Its sting, I gotcha, gotcha. If you know Cassie's family, 411 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: talk to them maybe or inform them that. 412 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: She appears to be going through like an acute episode. 413 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good point too. Yeah, so 414 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: this is like reach out to whoever you can. I agree. So, 415 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, we got an update, and I'm afraid 416 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna dive right in. Sorry for the radio silence, 417 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: and thank you for your concerns and messages. A couple 418 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: of things I want to address. I own my own 419 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: apartment and it has sliding doors in all the rooms, 420 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: hence my comment that I probably couldn't install a bathroom 421 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: door lock quick clean easily. Also point number two, Simon 422 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: and Mayle's condo has keypad locks. They changed the combination 423 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: last night, but the computer records of when it was unlocked. 424 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: It does not show when it was locked. Don't suggest 425 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: that anyone was in their condo during the day when 426 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: they were at work. We were over at their house 427 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: at least once a week, sometimes twice, so it's not 428 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: unthinkable that Cassie could have taken those things while we 429 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: were over there. Mail thinks she has food poisoning. She 430 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: was feeling ill on Thursday after a company lunch, and 431 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: a coworker from her a department apparently called off yesterday too. 432 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: She wasn't feeling well enough last night to see her 433 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: in her maid of honor at her condo. Simon told 434 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: Mail everything that I told him around the time I 435 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: made the post, and Mail was understandably freaked out about 436 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Friends normally aren't welcome upstairs in their 437 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: condo at male's requests. I've never seen Mail in Simon's 438 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: bedroom or their bathroom, aside from those images on Cassie's computer, 439 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: so the fact that she was stooping around there it 440 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: made Mail furious. I wrote the original post about Thursday's 441 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: events at yesterday. Around five or so after I wrote 442 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: the post, I was texting quite a few people, one 443 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: of whom got a hold of Cassie's aunt Mary on 444 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: my behalf Marie got I keep mispronouncing names. It's like, well, 445 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: it's because you had that. 446 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: You guys, you got the may mile at the beginning, 447 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: and you're like mail all right now everything's getting a 448 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: little French when you do it. 449 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Let me just let me just you know, ruin, ruin, 450 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: ruin everything from here, ye, Marie. Marie called me around 451 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: seven pm the aunt and we spoke for almost half 452 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: an hour. Marie had told me that Cassie had struggled 453 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: with depression and a type of dissociative disorder when she 454 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: was in elementary in middle school as a result of 455 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: being in foster care for over a year. Wow. I 456 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: asked if Marie wanted me to alert the police, and 457 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: Marie said that she would do it. Okay. To Dakota's point, 458 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: we are now getting the uh, you know, the monkey 459 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: out of our circus. The pertinent parties are involved. Now, 460 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: pertinent parties are involved. As far as I know. The 461 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: police in my area and Cassie's hometown have been told 462 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: that she's missing and no of her current mental state. 463 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, now she's declared missing. Dude, this is the 464 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: ante is upping over here. After I spoke with Marie, 465 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: I took a long shower. I came out to find 466 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: miss calls from both Simon and Mail, as well as 467 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: one of our other friends, Shane. Shane is a gym 468 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: buddy of mine, an ex military. Simon has called him 469 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: to tell him and let him know what's going on, 470 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: and I called Shane back first. He was going over 471 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: to Simon and Males just to make sure everything was 472 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: all right, and he wanted me to come up with 473 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: him and spend the night there. I agreed, and I 474 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: called Mail back to make sure that she was all 475 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: right with that. She didn't answer, but Simon did, and 476 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: he was in agreement with us spending the night. Dude, 477 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: you know it would be the craziest plot twist ever 478 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: if Simon did end up with Cassie. Can you imagine? No, 479 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: that would be crazy. Nuh uh. 480 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: That'd be like if you, like, Saron got the ring 481 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the Lord of the Rings, that'd 482 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: be like he was just. 483 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Like and they lost. I'm just saying he'd be crazy. 484 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I packed up a bag Male's things and Cassie's laptop 485 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: and drove over to Simon to Males. She had just 486 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: gotten out of the shower as I arrived, and she 487 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: looked like she was definitely recovering. We settled into the 488 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: living room and I gave her the bag of what 489 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: was missing, which Simon put upstairs without her looking at it. 490 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: Shane and Simon spent a good portion of the night 491 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: playing Mario Kart with us, while Mail alternated between playing 492 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: and chatting with her maid of honor, Susie, but had 493 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: come over after Simon had told her what was going on. 494 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Susie left at around ten, and afterwards Mail went to bed. 495 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: At around midnight, Shane and I decided to go to 496 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: bed as well. Simon went upstairs and while Shane went 497 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: to bed, immediately I opened Cassie's laptop. Aside from the pictures, 498 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: there was not much else there, and she hadn't logged 499 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: in on Facebook from her browser in so long that 500 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: it had been logged out and I couldn't access anything regardless, 501 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: but I gave up and went to bed. At around 502 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: three am in the morning, I heard a car door 503 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: slam shut outside It's her. It immediately woke me up 504 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: and I opened my eyes in time to see lights 505 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: flickering inside the window. I assumed this was someone's car 506 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: lights flashing when the lock button is pressed, but I 507 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: wasn't sure. I definitely heard footsteps on the wooden steps 508 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: leading up to the front porch, and that's when I 509 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: reached over and woke Shane up. Shane shut up and 510 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: turned on a floor lamp, and I heard whomever was 511 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: on the porch running back down the wooden steps. Shane 512 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: unlocked a door and threw it open, and we saw 513 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: a car speed out of the driveway and take off 514 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: down the road. I asked Shane what color the car was, 515 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: and he said he couldn't see it in the dark. 516 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Simon and Mayle's road is not well lit, so we 517 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: closed the door and debated waking Simon up and calling 518 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: the police. Ultimately, we did not wake Simon up, but 519 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: Shane went outside to call the local department and ask 520 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: if they sent a couple of cars up and down 521 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: the road. Shane lied and said that he'd seen Cassie's 522 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: car in the driveway and while they said there wasn't 523 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: anything they could do. Not surprising, they'd have their cruisers 524 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: in the area start looking for her car, and they'd 525 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: said someone to patrol the condo area. Okay, maybe you know, 526 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: not much faith in anything happening, but maybe I. 527 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: Mean, it's possible if they were in her car, but 528 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: if they're not, then it's like it doesn't matter, and 529 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: then you're just gonna have the cops be like yeah, 530 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess like next time costs when they're 531 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: here and it's like, well they were. 532 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'll use my tractor beam to hold him in place. 533 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Next time, it'd be one day we'll have teleporting police officers. 534 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Maybe when they come fast, like nine one one of 535 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: the white neighborhoods. I don't know if it's good or bad. 536 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Is that a Kanye bar? No, that's not no. Actually 537 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: it's probably the opposite of Kanye, which is J Cole. Yes. 538 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: So after everyone woke up this morning, I made breakfast 539 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: and mostly hung around talking and playing the occasional Mario karts. 540 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Mail said that she was going to attempt to file 541 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: a report for theft of her things, but as she 542 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: had them back now, she wasn't sure if she could 543 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: file a report based on hearsay. We discussed her options 544 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: what she could do, and I relate that what Marie 545 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: had said about Cassie's mental state. Mail is more angry 546 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: than freaked out and seems to have her wits about her. 547 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: When I told her about the pictures, she just laughed 548 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: in disbelief and shook her head. She agreed that Cassie 549 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: was mentally ill and said that she hopes Cassie gets help, 550 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: but she would never come over to their home again, 551 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: and asked me to refrain from inviting her and side 552 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: into any event that Cassie would be at. They both 553 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: blocked her on social media and mail even deleted Twitter. 554 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Simon's uncle is a police chief who works in another state, 555 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: and they are getting ready to call him after I left. Now. 556 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: When I got home later on, the apartment didn't look 557 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: like it had been visited by Cassie. I did a 558 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: walk through and nothing seemed missing or out of place. 559 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: So I then left around two to go to a 560 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: prior engagement. At around five, Marie called me again. She 561 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: said that she hadn't heard anything from Cassie and our 562 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: city's police hadn't seen her car. They were working on 563 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: getting the police to track her credit or debit card transactions. 564 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Bank banks close early today in my country and won't 565 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: reopen till Tuesday due to a holiday, so it's been hard 566 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: to get a hold of anyone. Also, this is sounding 567 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: like Europe. Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's happening in France. Ooh, 568 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: could be in France. So it sounds like vaguely French 569 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: names male somewhat France. Male is France. Yeah. 570 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: Look, honestly, at the end of the day, here, all 571 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: of this is like Cassie is. And I think maybe 572 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: this is why OP prefaced this whole story at the 573 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: beginning with like she was on medication in her youth 574 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Yeah, I forgot about my add 575 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: a history of mental health problems. 576 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Chef to mal, I think I think 577 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: her comment was was good, like, hey, I hope she 578 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: gets help, but I also need to, you know, protect myself. 579 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: And oh, she seemed very upset, and I promised her 580 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: that I would keep her updated if I heard anything. 581 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Cassie's uncle will be driving into the city about four 582 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: hours away if they don't hear anything from her or 583 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: the police by tomorrow morning. Shane is staying over at 584 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: my apartment tonight, and aside from that, there's not much 585 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: else I can update with. I'll be changing the locks 586 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow with his help, and at Shane's insistence, we child 587 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: proofed the doors with knives and kitchen utensils in them 588 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: to make sure they're more difficult to open. Update number two. Hey, 589 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: it's Sam' your og host here. Bring get back to 590 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: the stories. But here's three minutes bads from our sponsor. 591 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: First things first, Cassie has been found and is willingly 592 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: doing three days of psychiatric psychiatric inpatient evaluation. Okay, this 593 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: is positive progress. Yes, where do we find her? That 594 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I hope in a good place. Maybe we're about to see. 595 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: To clarify a couple of things I saw brought up 596 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: in my last post, the goal was always to find Cassie. 597 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I tried texting and calling Cassie a couple of times 598 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: a day since Thursday. Chane has known Cassie for almost 599 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: six years, and they have been and there have been 600 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: constant phone calls and messages back and forth with all 601 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: of our mutual friends. Some of them know the full 602 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: story and some don't, but we're all keeping an eye 603 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: out for her. Comments on the Internet are their own animal. 604 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: But I will say that while I was worried for 605 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: Cassie's safety, I also had a responsibility to Mail and 606 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Simon to tell them what I knew and not keep 607 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: them in the dark. Mail and Simon are rightfully upset, 608 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: but I won't turn Cassie away if she chooses to 609 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: stay in town and live with me again. I don't 610 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: know about you, Dakoto, but I don't know if I 611 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: want to be living with Cassie right now. Yeah, it 612 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: would be totally understandable to be like, I can't live 613 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: with this person again right now. 614 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: You can right away right now, not right away at 615 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: least right but yeah, me personally, I'm out. 616 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: Marie and George, Cassie's uncle, knew that I had her laptop. 617 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: I brought her laptop intending to check her Facebook messenger 618 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: history to see if she'd been communicating with anyone else 619 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: over Facebook. Marie knew that I was going to do this, 620 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: but it did work. As stated in my previous post, 621 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: after Shane and I woke up on Sunday, I had 622 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: an email for Marie saying that the uncle George would 623 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: be getting into town at around nine pm and he 624 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: wanted to meet with me at my apartment. I taxted 625 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Cassie again and didn't get any sort of response. Games 626 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: at Simon and Mal's and males were on as usual, 627 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: and because of everything that happened, or it spread fast 628 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: despite our efforts. It seemed like a lot of people 629 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: wanted to take the opportunity to see them. There was 630 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: almost twenty people there. I don't know, man, that's it 631 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: feels like kind of a lot we're doing. We're doing 632 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: a lot, aren't we doing a lot? A little bit? 633 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: Which is how I ended up in the basement playing 634 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: board games. At around seven pm, A friend upstairs started 635 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: calling for me. When I went back up, she pointed 636 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: to my bag and told me that my phone had 637 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: been ringing constantly for the past five minutes. I fished 638 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: it out and I had three miss calls from another 639 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: from a number I didn't recognize but had our area code. 640 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: I wonder who it could be. I'll give you a 641 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: one guess mmmm, Cassie. Yeah no, immediately stepped outside. 642 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: And call back. We're gonna We're gonna get to the 643 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: bottom of it, okay. Without going into boring details of 644 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: the greetings, the number belonged to Elsie at least at 645 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: least I am you're overachieving a lease is Slash was 646 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Cassie's long standing friend with benefits and is one of 647 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: a couple people that we know do not hang out 648 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: with people from the nerdy hipster group that they're a 649 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: part of. Elise had called me because of course people 650 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: had been talking. I CA I remember what the exact 651 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: conversation is, but it basically went like this, Elise is 652 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: Cassie in some kind of trouble. I heard this morning 653 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: that she tried to attack a girl. Me. 654 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: No. 655 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: She made some pretty weighty comments about a couple of 656 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: friends of ours, and when I asked for a proof, 657 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: she started crying and said that I didn't trust her 658 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: and that I was choosing them over her, and that 659 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: she was leaving to go stay with Chad. Elise what, No, 660 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: she's been here, Cassie's with me? Boom, Elise is Chad? 661 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh No. I basically felt like a bomb had been 662 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: dropped into my stomach. Cassie had come over at around 663 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: two am on Thursday night slash Friday morning, as Elise 664 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend were getting home. All Cassie told Elise 665 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: was that she'd had a nasty fight with me and 666 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: wanted to give it the weekend to cool off. Alise, 667 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: knowing how Cassie can get with her anxiety, didn't press 668 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: for any details. They spent Friday just hanging out and 669 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: took off to the mountains all day Saturday to go hiking. 670 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: I asked where Alise and her boyfriend were on Friday 671 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: night slash Saturday morning, and she said they'd basically smoked 672 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: and went to bed around on a Cassie didn't smoke 673 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: with them, but she did leave it around midnight to 674 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: grab donuts and other things from the store. At least 675 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: couldn't say if Cassie went to bed with them or not. 676 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: At this point, I asked where Cassie was now the 677 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: big the big reveal. She and Elise's boyfriend were picking 678 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: up dinner and she wanted to take the opportunity to 679 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: call me about what she'd heard while they were out. 680 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: I said that her uncle and aunt were insanely worried 681 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: about her, and the uncle was driving in town around 682 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: nine pm today. At least asked why he was in 683 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: town and why he was worried, and that is when 684 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: I told her the full store. Oh hell, lord, yup 685 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: getting crazy crazier than it already is. That's already pretty crazy. 686 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Right As I ended, however, Alise told me that her 687 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend and Cassie had just pulled up and continued, Oh 688 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: and to continue over text, we agreed at first to 689 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: meet at the wait wait wait wait yeah wait what 690 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: at least told me, oh that her Elise's boyfriend and 691 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: Cassie just built up. Okay, not yeah that was I 692 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: was like, is Chad real? Is Chad? Dude? Imagine if 693 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Chad was like a carbon copy of Simon where we're 694 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: uncovering a global doppelganger conspiracy. Wow, this is this plot 695 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: goes deep. So over text. We agreed at first to 696 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: meet at a restaurant around ten, and then at lease 697 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: drastically changed it to her house, giving me the address 698 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: and telling me to come over as soon as possible. 699 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: She said it would be easier to keep Cassie in 700 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: than drag her out and possibly cause a scene in 701 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: a restaurant. After this, I went back inside, but it 702 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: was a bit hard to focus on the party. I 703 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: decided instead to step out and call the uncle George. 704 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: After greeting him formally introducing myself, I told him what 705 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: I just heard. He said that he'd been trying to text, 706 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: slash call Cassie as well, and he had gotten no response. 707 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: He sounded extremely relieved and a bit choked up when 708 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: I said that she was safe and staying with a friend. 709 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: I told him that Elis had agreed to keep Cassie 710 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: in and have us over so that way we could 711 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: talk to her, and he immediately agreed to that. I 712 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: went back inside and found Shane and another close friend 713 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: of Cassie's, and I pulled them aside to tell them everything. 714 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: By the time I was done, it was almost eight pm. 715 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: Shane and our friend both agreed that while they wanted 716 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: to go, it was probably best if it was just 717 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: me and Cassie's uncle, as they didn't really want to 718 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: embarrass or freak her out. I left the party thirty 719 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: minutes early to go get some coffee because I was 720 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: starting to get really nervous about confronting Cassie. At around 721 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: nine to fifteen ish, I parked on the street a 722 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: couple of houses away from Elisa's and I waited. I 723 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: saw a car pull up on the other side of 724 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: the street maybe five minutes later, and the uncle, George, 725 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: walked out and over to my car. After confirming it 726 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: was each other, he reintroduced himself and made a couple 727 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: of small jokes. I texted Lease to let her know 728 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: that we are there and he had and that he 729 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: had asked to go in first. I was more than 730 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: happy with that, and we rang the doorbell and then 731 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: Elise opened the door. Okay, Elise's house turned out to 732 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: be a foyer setup, which means the front door didn't 733 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: open up into the living room like I'd hoped. We 734 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: had to walk in and go down a hallway to 735 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: get to the living room. When George turned the corner, 736 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: I sort of stayed behind. I heard all of the 737 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: talking go silent, and I heard Cassie start. George immediately 738 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: walked into the living room, and when I finally turned 739 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: the corner, he was sitting on the couch with his 740 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: arm around her. Cassie eventually saw me and just started 741 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: buying harder. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, 742 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, Cassie definitely has a strong mental illness, you know, 743 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: and I wonder if if under because it seems like 744 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: she was normal or like she was doing very well 745 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: before all this happened. 746 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, whatever the combo may be, it's uh, it's 747 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: gonna have to be strong. I don't know, it's like 748 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: this is it's you know, it was a lot, a lot, 749 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: a lot. 750 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: Of deception, a lot of obsession, none of it healthy. Yeah, 751 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: it's bad. You'd like channel let into a hobby at 752 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: least turn the TV off, and brought a chair out 753 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: there for me and all three of us. Alisa's boyfriend 754 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: was there, but was put in a very awkward position 755 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: and just stayed quietly firmly stated that we loved her 756 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: and cared for her, but that she needed to schedule 757 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: an appointment to see a psychiatrist. George took it a 758 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: step further and insisted that she sees someone now and 759 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: that he wanted to take her to the hospital downtown. 760 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: By the way, if you are looking for a release 761 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: to help with your very stressful life, because this is 762 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: a stressful story, go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio if 763 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: your favorite pod app and search Okay, Storytime because why. 764 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: Dakota is that's where we are, that's right, and how 765 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: you find us full episodes with stories just like this 766 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 2: two thousand EPs said that part yet I hadn't, but 767 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: that's I just threw you under the bust over there. 768 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: I blacked out because someone in the chat said strong 769 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: mantail illness is crazy. Yeah. 770 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's not what I've said. I thought, 771 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think I said that, So that's that's 772 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: that's that's that's directed to me with I said, whatever 773 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: she needs to address it is going to have to 774 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: be strong. I might have so strong mentally, Yeah, but 775 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: it's on me. Yeah, sometimes it is right, okay, all right, 776 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: boys and girls. So getting back to it, Cassie didn't 777 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: say anything for a long time. She mostly just nodded, cried, 778 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: and listened to us, and eventually verbally agreed with George. 779 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: Alice said that she's packing up Cassie's things and to 780 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: give them to me later, and that Cassie and George 781 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: could leave now if they wanted. Cassie turned to me 782 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: to ask about her car. I said, if that was 783 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: okay with her, someone to drive it back to the apartment. 784 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: She agreed to the keys out of her purse and 785 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: started crying again. George walked her out into his car. 786 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen Cassie and George since Sunday, although both 787 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: George and Marie texted me back to thank me. Cassie's 788 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: living situation is still uncertain, but I hope i'll know 789 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: more tomorrow when she's released. Thanks for hearing me out. 790 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: It was nerve racking to go through it. That is 791 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: the end of this story. But I'm lying to you, 792 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: psych it's not the end because Riley has found I 793 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: did an updates for us to read more. Here we go, 794 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: So final updates. Hey, it's John here, og host of 795 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna get back to these juicy stories. 796 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: But here's a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 797 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: Me twenty nine female, in my roommate twenty six female 798 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: are in a really messed up situation. I'm starting to 799 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: feel the constant consequences of it. So Cassie went batty 800 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: over mail and Simon's engage in pictures, and they're excluding 801 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: her from the save the dates and the engagement party, 802 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: I would hope. So she's now living with her aunt 803 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and uncle four hours away and cannot contact anyone. So 804 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I should be writing this update. 805 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: This entire thing, from the beginning to end, has been 806 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent fed up, and I am so exhausted 807 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: and my nerves are totally shot. I swim for endurance, 808 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: I do MMA, and I stick and I got sick 809 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: with an ear infection that started two weeks ago geez. 810 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: As such, I'd been working from home and when I 811 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: typed that last update. That was actually my first day 812 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: back into the office, and in rushing to get out 813 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: of the house, I left my effing phone at home. 814 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't live far away from work, and I wasn't 815 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: planning on going out that night, so I just left 816 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: it at home, knowing that I could go back on 817 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: my lunch break if I wanted to get it. So 818 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: I got to work and it was really slow in 819 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: the morning for me, and that's when I type the 820 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: original post. My coworkers and I usually go to lunch 821 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: around one thirty as one of our peak times for workers. 822 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: During regular lunch hours, we have up to an hour 823 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: for lunch and normally we take all of it. So 824 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: we get back around two thirty and I'm almost immediately 825 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: calling another worker's desk help to fix the problem. When 826 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: I finally get back to my office, I see a 827 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: voicemail light on my phone flashing. The voicemail function is 828 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: so sparsely used with my clients I barely remembered my 829 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: pin and have to double check it. The message was 830 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: something like this, Hey, I'm looking for op. This is Simon. 831 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Please call me on my cell phone. And again, this 832 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: is the Simon from before who Op not op, who 833 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: Uh Cassie. Cassie was obsessed with and you became his 834 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: his fiance very creepily. Yes, so my office is pretty 835 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: far removed from the rest of the circles, from the 836 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: cubicles but a store list. I do have my cell 837 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: phone with me, and while I was able to look 838 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: through the call history and write down a cell number, 839 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be making a personal call from work. 840 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: I decided to go over to my boss James and 841 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: ask if I could run home and get my phone. 842 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: I vaguely explained the voicemail and say that someone might 843 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: be trying to get a hold of me urgently. He 844 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: says it's fine. I know it's kind of dickish of me. 845 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: But the second I got home and looked at my phone, 846 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: all I could think of was that I was going 847 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: to have to take two and a half hours of 848 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: PTO because there was no way I was getting back 849 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: to work. I had forty two unread text messages and 850 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: three call slashed voicemails. The text messages were mostly from 851 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: Simon and Shane, and I saw a Lease and Marie's 852 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 1: names mentioned as I scrolled, as well as another unmentioned friend. 853 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: I sat down and started with Simon. I scrolled up 854 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: from the first message, which was essentially Simon, I don't 855 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: know if you're we're aware, but Cassie attacked Mail. No, 856 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: I'd seen the mention of hospital in Shane's most recent message, 857 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 1: and I swear this is the first time in my life. 858 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to faint. I quickly 859 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: scrolled through Simon's messages. Basically, Cassie had attacked Mail in 860 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: a parking lot as she was leaving a restaurant with 861 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: her coworkers. She had grabbed a male's bun and and 862 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: her head got hit on the ground as male's co worker, Karen, 863 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: let's say, shoved Cassie away. Something happened, Simon didn't say, 864 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: and Cassie somehow gave Karen an orbital fracture. I know 865 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: what happened. Strong right, huh A strong right? Is what happened? Oh? 866 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 2: I think needs to be in prison now. Yeah, these 867 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: are Cassie needs to go to prison. 868 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: These are crimes. This is this is very, very dangerous. 869 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: A husband and wife ran over and apparently wrestled Cassie 870 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: to the ground with the other two co workers and 871 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: the police had been called. Both Mail and Karen had 872 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: been taken to the hospital. I immediately called Simon before checking 873 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the messages, and he didn't answer. I 874 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: checked Shane's message next. Cassie had been arrested a couple 875 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: of counties over while Mail worked, Mail had been taken 876 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: to a hospital, and message call me a SAP. I 877 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: had only one message each from Malisa Marie, and both 878 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: were essentially hello, please call me. Marie's text message was 879 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: dated barely five minutes ago. I didn't want to call Marie. 880 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: I wanted nothing more than to never talk to Marie 881 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: and George again. I felt like I had failed them somehow. 882 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: I justified it at the time by saying that I 883 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: didn't have any facts yet and calling Marie wouldn't do 884 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: either of us any good. I called Shane has Staid, 885 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: and he almost immediately answered. He was still at work, 886 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: but on a long break, and he filled me in 887 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: with the rest of the story. Now, Shane and Cassie 888 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: are very close. They have known each other for over 889 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: six years and they have a pretty solid bond. Cassie 890 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: was upset of all things Mail and Simon's engagement photos 891 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: that had been posted at the end of June. That's 892 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: what triggered this whole thing. We were getting into her, 893 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, a psych evaluation and getting her into a hospital, 894 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: and maybe well she might have access to a psych 895 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: evaluation in jail in whatever country she's in. 896 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 897 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: Look, and I'm not like over here like I love jail. 898 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm pro jail. 899 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: But it's like when you become like a physical like 900 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 2: danger to others. 901 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: Yes, in a way. That's not just like, oh, you 902 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: scraped my arm, it's like you could have ended my life. Yeah, literally, 903 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: time to go to jail. Whenever they texted or spoke 904 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: on the phone or went out for a midnight fast food, 905 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: she would bring it up. Shane's tried to steer the 906 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: conversation to other things, and she'd be okay for a 907 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: couple of days, but then a Cassie would bring it 908 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: up again. And one night a couple of weeks ago, 909 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: while they were at a late night burger slash shake 910 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: place with another friend, Cassie just stood up and left 911 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: out of the blue. After she didn't come back for 912 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, Shane and our friend went after her, 913 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: and she burst into tears. When Shane asked what was up. 914 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: It turns out that our friend and Shane's phones had 915 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: gone off at around the same time. It was a 916 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: Facebook message from Mail asking for addresses from everyone to 917 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: save the dates and engagement party invitations. Cassie had been 918 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: holding his phone and watching a video at the time. 919 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: Apparently he strongly suspects that that is what set her off. 920 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: She saw the wedding invitations come in and knew that A. 921 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: Simon was getting married, and of course she wasn't getting 922 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: an invite. Yeah, like Sophia says, Sophia, Collen says, she 923 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: needs rehabilitation. Like we It's a tough It's a tough 924 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: situation because will she like you know, can consent to it? Uh? 925 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: But can can we get her some help? Like that is? 926 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: This is what we need to avoid situations like what happened. 927 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: There wasn't much left to say after that, and we 928 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: promised to keep each other update. After I got off 929 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: the phone with Shane, at least almost immediately called me, 930 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: but I shuddled her to voicemail and I tried to 931 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: call Simon again. I didn't get an answer. I went 932 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: I went up to get in my car and go 933 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: back to work, and as I pulled out of my driveway, 934 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: Simon called me back. The call itself was pretty mundane. 935 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: He asked what I knew if I'd spoken with Shane. 936 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: I told him I did, and we discussed it briefly. 937 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: I asked how Cassie knew where Mail would be, and 938 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: he said that she told the police that she didn't, 939 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: and she'd been in the area and ended up in 940 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: the restaurant, the same restaurant as them, and had quote 941 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: unquote lost her mind when she saw Mail. Cassie and 942 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: I live almost thirty minutes away from where Mail works, 943 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: and while there's a lot of real cool shots in 944 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: the area, I've never heard Cassie say that she went 945 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: there before, so it's smelling like she didn't just happen 946 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: to be there. 947 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you don't just happen upon the message and 948 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 2: then you happen upon them at a restaurant, and then 949 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 2: you happen to send them both. 950 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: To the hospital. That doesn't just happen. You wanted to 951 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: do this, That is right. He said that Mail is fine, 952 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: but has to stay in the hospital overnight because she 953 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: hit her head really hard, and Karen has a really 954 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: huge black eye, but probably would be discharged. By the evening, 955 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: Karen was currently talking to a police officer and he 956 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: was waiting for Mayl to get back from an exprey. 957 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: It was embarrassing to admit, but while I was on 958 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: the phone with him, I started crying. I apologized for 959 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: not being able to control Cassie's behavior, but because I 960 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: ultimately introduced Cassie to Mail and Simon's life the first place, 961 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: I understand that it's rational. Simon was very understanding. He 962 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: assured me that he and Mayl didn't blame me or 963 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: anything like that, and he made tentative plans to invite 964 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: me over that Sunday for coffee since games were pretty 965 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: much canceled for the week. I didn't end up going 966 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: back to work, and I did end up calling Marie 967 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: much later that evening. What I discussed with her is 968 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: probably not okay to type out, as it's currently an 969 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: active lawsuit and whatnot, So I mean, not a surprise, 970 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: but we've reached that point. Some details may be redacted. 971 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: I met with Simon and Mayle on Sunday and it 972 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: turned out to be an okay crowd. Shane wasn't able 973 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: to make it, but Susie and another coach friend of 974 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: ours was there, and Mayil insisted on normalcy, so we 975 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: all ended up having a really good time. Simon told 976 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: us about Labor Day plans, probably deliberately so I didn't 977 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,959 Speaker 1: feel left out, and we made no mention Cassie. On Wednesday, Shane, Marie, 978 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: and George came over to move Cassie out. She's being 979 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: pulled out of her graduate program for now and is 980 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: living with Marie and George. I didn't see her at all. 981 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: Shane quietly told me that she went from jail to 982 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: Marie and George's hotel room and hasn't seen anyone. Marie 983 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: and George took her cell phone the laptop from her. 984 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: I helped her as much as I could before I 985 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: went to the gym, and Marie gave me a very 986 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: warm hug as I left. I'm honestly not sure how 987 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: much they know slash understand about what's going on, because 988 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: when I came back, there's a stack of papers on 989 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: the side table by the sofa. Some were just grad 990 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: school papers and flow charts, but a good majority of 991 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: them were printouts of Simon and Mayle's engagement photos. 992 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 2: I don't know how you do deal with this, I 993 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 2: don't This is out of my tax bracket. Yeah, out 994 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 2: of my league, this is out of my area of expertise. 995 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. My gut is telling me, 996 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: like she needs to be like and I don't know 997 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: if this will make her better. She's be locked in 998 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: a basement for six months. Yeah. 999 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 2: I fel like if you just purely isolate yourself from 1000 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: the world and all of your triggers and you just 1001 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 2: like dig. 1002 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: Into your own like your own noodle up here. 1003 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like maybe you can unlock the secret to 1004 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: like changing your ways. And then of course, also like 1005 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 2: you know, if you could get like real therapy and 1006 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: like and actually work through it. 1007 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: I had My problem with that is I think she'd 1008 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: probably be fibbin'. Yeah. We need we need like a 1009 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: like a for lack of a better word, like hospital 1010 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: level rehabilitation level psychiatrist. Yeah, that's going to really really 1011 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 1: walk Cassie through again. It's I could be wrong. We 1012 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: didn't get as much context, but it seemed like before 1013 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: all this went down, she was, you know, operating well and. 1014 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,919 Speaker 2: And Sofia Colone says Dakota, that's how you make people 1015 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 2: get worse and get out to do worse things. 1016 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: Yet, like I said, this is not I'm too This 1017 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,720 Speaker 1: is too much for me to know how to deal with. Yeah, 1018 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: my instincts may be wrong. We are not the uh. 1019 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: But if I was her and I saw an alert 1020 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 2: that then made me go into a rage, I'd be like, I. 1021 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,959 Speaker 1: Need to lock myself away for six months. Cassie's gone, 1022 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: She's got a rough couple of months ahead of her, 1023 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: and my friends have been paying so much attention to 1024 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: me that it's almost annoying. This is the first night 1025 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: since this BS went down and I've been able to 1026 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 1: be by myself. I'm sorry I didn't respond to anyone 1027 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: in the last posts, but honestly, I never really want 1028 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: to log into this account again after this. Typing it 1029 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: all out was cathartic because all my friends seem to 1030 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 1: want to avoid the topic for now. I know they're 1031 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: worried about hurting feelings or overstepping boundaries, and they're wonderful 1032 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: in that sense. But sometimes girls just got event. Girls 1033 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: just want to event, and girls they want to be 1034 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 1: may may L. Girls just want to be may L. Yes, 1035 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: so they get married. Simon, we are we are getting 1036 00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: the strongest hook cartoon pulling out. Ever so they plies, 1037 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I am afraid to say that's that's the 1038 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: end of the story. 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