Speaker 1: So the met ball was so okay. So the met
Speaker 1: ball came and went, and um, it brings up so
Speaker 1: many conversations for so many people. First of all, Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade being overturned by the Supreme Chord happened on the
Speaker 1: same night, which obviously wasn't intentional. I just don't think
Speaker 1: that this would even be on their radar. But it's
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people were thinking about because
Speaker 1: it's a very heated issue on a night that I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's superficial, you know. I mean, we can't
Speaker 1: only talk about issues and Ukraine, and we can't only
Speaker 1: talk about things that are depressing us in the world, politics, poverty,
Speaker 1: things like that. But I wonder where the line is.
Speaker 1: I'm always udering where the line is because so the
Speaker 1: met ball isn't that on my radar, Like I really,
Speaker 1: it has really not much to do with me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know some of the people that go, and it
Speaker 1: seems so far away and so um otherworldly to so
Speaker 1: many of us. I mean, maybe many of you think
Speaker 1: that it's not other worldly to me because I've been
Speaker 1: on red carpets, but I promise you I've never been
Speaker 1: comfortable on a red carpet. When I first started out,
Speaker 1: I was in Sundance and I had a boyfriend who
Speaker 1: was a very well known photographer still is, and he
Speaker 1: used to put me on the red carpets and tell
Speaker 1: the photographers to take pictures of me. I was in
Speaker 1: Natural Food Chef. I had been on the Apprentice. Nobody cared.
Speaker 1: I was nobody, and I remember them saying, like, work it.
Speaker 1: The photographers and him, just work it, and it seems
Speaker 1: embarrassing even in front of them, and they want you
Speaker 1: to work at The photographers want you to work it
Speaker 1: for them, they want you to give them what they
Speaker 1: came for. But I always felt so self conscious about
Speaker 1: that because it's so inauthentic, and it's even between me
Speaker 1: and that camera. Even though the people that would buy
Speaker 1: magazines would buy more if you work it, it just
Speaker 1: always felt weird. It's not me. So if you ever
Speaker 1: look at any picture of me, I am not working it.
Speaker 1: I'm just standing there trying to look good and elegant
Speaker 1: and frankly, so many times I've gone and uh, there
Speaker 1: have been times that I've gone to an event with
Speaker 1: Brin and and and done my own makeup and then
Speaker 1: felt like, oh God, why did I that look like shit?
Speaker 1: Or my hair? And because even though it was just
Speaker 1: a kid's event, the photographers put this these pictures everywhere,
Speaker 1: so then you're self conscious about that. There have been
Speaker 1: times when I've gotten really great gland, but like the
Speaker 1: person wasn't as good as I thought, and then I
Speaker 1: leave and or my bra strap was showing, or my
Speaker 1: hair was had a hair flying up. And then you
Speaker 1: went all that way and you got dressed, and you
Speaker 1: went to this event and you took his pictures and
Speaker 1: you tried hard. This time you got the gland, and
Speaker 1: you're still screwed up. So when I tell you that,
Speaker 1: I think that it looks like a lot of pressure,
Speaker 1: way more than you can imagine. It is like I
Speaker 1: watched Addison Ray, who's fairly new at this in the world,
Speaker 1: right put her hands up like she was this angel
Speaker 1: at the met Ball, like just you know, like Jesus
Speaker 1: on the cross so they could get the right picture
Speaker 1: of her. And um, Vanessa Hudgins had these massive, like
Speaker 1: black angel wings and you've got to come there to perform.
Speaker 1: So I think about the theatrics and I know that
Speaker 1: it's not that on my radar, and it's been going
Speaker 1: on for years when it was even way less on
Speaker 1: my radar. But I think the origin of the event,
Speaker 1: so it's the I think it's a costume institute. It's
Speaker 1: the met Ball. I mean, it's obviously about fashion. It's
Speaker 1: celebrating fashion. It has a theme every year, and um
Speaker 1: a host every year, a co host with Anna Wintour,
Speaker 1: who's iconic and I would love to have her on
Speaker 1: here in the HB i C of all HB i
Speaker 1: C s UM because she's had that cut throw job
Speaker 1: for ever. But it doesn't see it used to seem
Speaker 1: like people wou address elegant and look at the theme
Speaker 1: and there was like a respect in a way. Now
Speaker 1: it seems like a fucking sir gifts like it actually
Speaker 1: seems like the Circus Institute, you know, for fashion, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't some people really seem like they're they know
Speaker 1: what it is, they feel comfortable in it. It's part
Speaker 1: of their DNA, and they're they're sort of doing it properly,
Speaker 1: which could be superficial in and of itself. So I
Speaker 1: will say Blake Lively, who I think is the most
Speaker 1: incredible style icon besides Haley Bieber in the world. Like ever,
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I'm including like Audrey Hepburn, who's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: Like I think Blake Lively is a game changer fashion
Speaker 1: wise because she's still a mom. She doesn't seem desperate.
Speaker 1: So Blake Lively shows up in this gown that I
Speaker 1: initially didn't love that much. Other it's like a rose
Speaker 1: gold Mirrory type of gown. I don't totally get it
Speaker 1: or bronze, Like I didn't really get it. I needed
Speaker 1: a minute, right, which I love. I love that, like
Speaker 1: I needed a minute, you know, to really understand it,
Speaker 1: because that happens with the best songs week we love.
Speaker 1: So then I'm watching all night and I'm watching her makeup,
Speaker 1: which my friend Christopher Buckle did, and her emerald ear
Speaker 1: rings just like reflecting, and then the people from the
Speaker 1: fashion house, which this is a whole ordeal, like you're
Speaker 1: allowed to stop before you even let a photographer take
Speaker 1: a picture of you, and like everybody makes sure that
Speaker 1: the picture that's hanging on the wall there for everyone
Speaker 1: to see is going to be what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: So I love that because I don't do that on
Speaker 1: red carpets. I feel uncomfortable, like, oh hi, everyone I'm
Speaker 1: gonna now put my dress a certain way and put
Speaker 1: my Angelina Jolie through the slip forward in a very
Speaker 1: intentional way for you. But that's what you have to do.
Speaker 1: And maybe one time I'll do that, but I just
Speaker 1: I'm not good at that. So back to Blake, her
Speaker 1: designer teams. Her design team comes up and they take
Speaker 1: this stress and they unsnapped and they pull her gloves off,
Speaker 1: and it has evolved from this bronze into this sort
Speaker 1: of like you know, r e l of the Sea blue,
Speaker 1: which I guess it represents the oxidization of Grand Central
Speaker 1: which and and her dress had like the stellar the
Speaker 1: constellation from the ceiling in there, and it's like a
Speaker 1: reflection of New York and glamour and like that's a theme.
Speaker 1: But she also still was elegant, like she she was theatrical.
Speaker 1: That was by nature theatrical. The dress turned into something else.
Speaker 1: There was a big popping circumstance with the people. Uh,
Speaker 1: it evolved, but she maintained that respect and the elegance
Speaker 1: of this event. That is what I think of it
Speaker 1: as we think of it as the met Gala. It's
Speaker 1: a ball, like she was at a ball. You know
Speaker 1: and Rihanna when she has her head dress, and it's
Speaker 1: like unbelievable, and it even even though it is like
Speaker 1: to the hilt of theatrical, it's still like a ball.
Speaker 1: I can't explain it, um, And I just feel like
Speaker 1: many people have just chosen to use it as a
Speaker 1: way to one up other people. I get more attention,
Speaker 1: look at me. All that matters is that I did
Speaker 1: it bigger and more outrageous and more outlanged than everybody else,
Speaker 1: versus riding that line and also like respecting what it
Speaker 1: originally was intended to be. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think that you know, Kim Kardashian never year takes
Speaker 1: chances um. Last year in dressing and covering being completely
Speaker 1: covered was it was, it was an fascinating risk, and
Speaker 1: she she she took it over. And this year it
Speaker 1: was way more subtle. It's ironic because she was wearing
Speaker 1: one of the greatest icons in entertainment and American history, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you know, wise like Starlett was. She wore her dress
Speaker 1: Malan Morose dress, but it had an understated elegance to it.
Speaker 1: You know, it seemed almost like because of her relationship,
Speaker 1: she wasn't going over the top in that way and
Speaker 1: needing to, you know, take it all over. It was
Speaker 1: a slightly more understated. I have no idea if that
Speaker 1: was intentional, because wearing Marilyn's dress is certainly an attention grabber.
Speaker 1: Um and and and I think she always nails it.
Speaker 1: I think she's stunning. I think she looked amazing. I
Speaker 1: think losing sixteen pounds to fit into my Allen's dress
Speaker 1: I get. I mean, I get it. You're preparing for
Speaker 1: a role. This is a role, you're on stage. I
Speaker 1: get her choice. I mean I don't get it because
Speaker 1: I I literally eat the same way on Christmas Day
Speaker 1: as I do putting on an outfit. But I think
Speaker 1: that saying that publicly was a mistake. I think that
Speaker 1: young girls hang on every word she says. Look at
Speaker 1: everything she does, and we can't keep pretending that this
Speaker 1: is all just inspirational and aspirational because the people that
Speaker 1: they're influencing skew young. You know, she does hit the moms,
Speaker 1: which I do too, but the moms have eating disorders
Speaker 1: to to, you know, and the kids get the messaging
Speaker 1: from the mom. So like whether she speaking to tweens,
Speaker 1: twenties or moms across the board saying you last sixteen
Speaker 1: pounds year before or that year that she looked amazing,
Speaker 1: and that wet outfit that she like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to like tie her waist, you know. And and
Speaker 1: the thing is they don't care, and they certainly don't
Speaker 1: care what I I think. I hope you care what
Speaker 1: I think, or I hope I care what you think
Speaker 1: because we all dance around it because they are the
Speaker 1: car Kennedy's, you know, they're the car Kennedy's, the most
Speaker 1: powerful family in this country that has made so much money.
Speaker 1: It's undeniable, most influential. I mean, this is undeniable, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: And it's not responsible to tell young kids that you
Speaker 1: lost sixteen pounds for you know, a costume. They are
Speaker 1: all so impressionable. My daughter just came into my drawer
Speaker 1: ten minutes ago and said to me, is that the
Speaker 1: glitter lip bomb? And I was like, which one? And
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, the top four when it's all over TikTok,
Speaker 1: Like that's a dumb lip cluss that she thinks is
Speaker 1: better than another one, which I already said on TikTok,
Speaker 1: like many of these things are the same as they
Speaker 1: aren't OLDA. She doesn't know the difference. She's eleven, So
Speaker 1: eleven year olds don't know the difference, you know, and
Speaker 1: when or fourteen year olds and if it's they think
Speaker 1: they can lose sixteen pounds of two weeks for a
Speaker 1: formal for about mitzpar first week, sixteen for whatever. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's where the line the line is interesting.
Speaker 1: And you know, whenever there's a big article on people
Speaker 1: that by followers, it's you know, it's certain people. It's
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus, it's um. I forgot who the other people are.
Speaker 1: It's always the Kardashians, many of the Kardashians that have
Speaker 1: bought many of their followers. UM. They get caught all
Speaker 1: the time about filtering and air brushing. So we're telling
Speaker 1: kids you should pretend you look like something you don't
Speaker 1: look like very often, so other people think it's what
Speaker 1: you look like. You should. You know, it's it's acceptable
Speaker 1: to lose an extreme amount of weight five percent of
Speaker 1: your body weight, you know, in a in a in
Speaker 1: a week or two, like the messages we have are
Speaker 1: putting out. Have to be responsible, especially when you're on
Speaker 1: a big stage like that. I just you know, the
Speaker 1: lines keep getting crossed. How do you tell your kids like,
Speaker 1: you look good enough, you're beautiful enough, You're beautiful just
Speaker 1: the way you are, You're beautiful natural. How do we
Speaker 1: tell our kids that they're beautiful natural and that they
Speaker 1: don't need any of this stuff if what they're watching
Speaker 1: is lose weight immediately filter yourself, make yourself any any
Speaker 1: any anything you want, Make yourself as thin as you want,
Speaker 1: as tan as you want, as blushed as you want,
Speaker 1: as as as flawless as you want, as small as
Speaker 1: a waste as you want. I mean, it's just got
Speaker 1: to be wrong. So that's where the line is. I
Speaker 1: think that Hailey Bieber is like another Blake Lively, but
Speaker 1: just more cool. You know, she nailed did her look
Speaker 1: was stunning and beautiful, and she understands the assignment. Blake
Speaker 1: Blake Lively understood the Yeah, here's what I'm rating the assignment.
Speaker 1: The assignment for the met Gala is to adhere to
Speaker 1: the theme in some way that's meaningful, not in some nuanced,
Speaker 1: bizarre fortune cookie way that you you you just uh interpreted,
Speaker 1: like some way that people could actually understand. You respect
Speaker 1: the event that it is and the elegance and and
Speaker 1: the homage to fashion that it is, uh, you deserve,
Speaker 1: like you've sort of earned the right to be there,
Speaker 1: Like you just don't seem overly competitive or desperate or
Speaker 1: thirsty or uncomfortable in your own skin. They're like you
Speaker 1: just That's what I'm reading it. And I think I
Speaker 1: think Hayley Bieber understood the assignment. I think, don't get
Speaker 1: mad at me. I don't know who Normanty is, whoever
Speaker 1: Normaney is. She looked amazing, she looked beautiful. Um, I
Speaker 1: think Vanessa Hudgins was theatrical, but you know, she needed
Speaker 1: that moment. I think that that was like a big
Speaker 1: moment for her, and people choose to do different things
Speaker 1: with that moment. But there's nobody black Lively is untouchable. Untouchable,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, something has come to my attention. It's
Speaker 1: something I've seen a lot. So UM, I do these
Speaker 1: sort of just beauty videos on TikTok about things that
Speaker 1: are and aren't worth it, like cutting through the bullshit
Speaker 1: and the being ripped off and the being totally duped.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want you to really understand that an
Speaker 1: influencer is influencing you. So the reason I started doing
Speaker 1: all these beauty comparisons and videos and just cutting through
Speaker 1: and letting people know that in most cases, drug store
Speaker 1: makeup gets you. They're just as as well as UM
Speaker 1: as high end department store makeup. UM. But so these
Speaker 1: influencers that are also talking to a young audience, and
Speaker 1: they are young to they're young people talking to a
Speaker 1: varied audience. Sorry, so every product, oh my god, look
Speaker 1: at the glow. Can you believe? You know? And it's
Speaker 1: almost like this weird addiction where there's a commercial on
Speaker 1: every single second that you're watching about this thing that
Speaker 1: can make you more beautiful and glow better, and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: And it's like pizza. This pizza is good. That pizza
Speaker 1: is good, the other pizza is good. All the pizza
Speaker 1: is good. Put them next to each other, but get
Speaker 1: the best pizza pizza. But you don't need all of it.
Speaker 1: So these influencers are being paid, and even if they're
Speaker 1: not being directly paid where it doesn't say sponsored post
Speaker 1: or partner, they're being paid in other ways by being
Speaker 1: sent product, or they're being paid for something else. A
Speaker 1: campaign that you did six months ago and you're waiting
Speaker 1: for them to give you another campaign. So you're doing
Speaker 1: it this way. But they're influencers and God loved them.
Speaker 1: They're making money, but we have to be more savvy.
Speaker 1: So what I realized was that it's a different land
Speaker 1: on TikTok with influencers. So, um, I don't I know
Speaker 1: Tank since she's been on the show, and um, I
Speaker 1: know that a while back during COVID, she I guess
Speaker 1: was talking to her followers about her breakup. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she was crying, but she was upset about it,
Speaker 1: and I know I heard that, like I just know
Speaker 1: that that's in the background, but I thought, and that's
Speaker 1: like how she connected. And um, I was flipping through
Speaker 1: and I saw this other makeup influencer crying to her fans.
Speaker 1: She's depressed, she's lonely. And she's told her fans before
Speaker 1: that she has gained weight and been depressed and been
Speaker 1: low and it's a young, young girl and now she's
Speaker 1: crying and she told them and she's talking about she's
Speaker 1: not being present and recording all the time, and she's
Speaker 1: posting all the time. And it's not that it's not
Speaker 1: that president. It can be lonely. And of course all
Speaker 1: these people are saying like we're with you, we love
Speaker 1: you and all that, and these people, just like the
Speaker 1: people listening, just that, people like the people on my
Speaker 1: my social media are there for me. They're amazing. But
Speaker 1: if I do something terrible, you know, they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: cancel me, Like they're not. It's not Paul, it's not Britain,
Speaker 1: where like I could do something you know, outrageous and
Speaker 1: they would still be there for me and forgive me.
Speaker 1: And it's not even this and these are such loyal
Speaker 1: and dedicated fans that have made these influencers. Um. And
Speaker 1: there was another woman a similar story. I saw her
Speaker 1: looking into the to the to the to the phone
Speaker 1: and crying and saying like, why do you feel so
Speaker 1: alone when you have so many people that love you?
Speaker 1: And I'm watching this theme of many people like sort
Speaker 1: of really emoting into their devices, to us, to to followers,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking it's amazing that people have people to
Speaker 1: talk to because let's say you're alone. You know there
Speaker 1: are women have messaged me on social media felt very lonely,
Speaker 1: and I've said back, like, listen, you're not alone, and
Speaker 1: it's great to have these people that love you and
Speaker 1: support you. But there's this addiction to this social media
Speaker 1: and communicating to these people, um that make you feel
Speaker 1: good about everything, um, and you're connecting less I think
Speaker 1: with the people in your actual life. And a lot
Speaker 1: of these influencers are saying that they're posting all the
Speaker 1: time and they feel like it's an addiction and they
Speaker 1: don't take days off because I think that they wanted
Speaker 1: you know, that this this is feeding them in some way.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if there's a thing like talk sick,
Speaker 1: like toxic, Like it's okay to be loved and it's
Speaker 1: okay to connect with people, but like you know, they're
Speaker 1: not necessarily licensed therapists, and you're really like maybe detracting
Speaker 1: from other people in your life that you could be
Speaker 1: talking to or professional help, and there's just something there,
Speaker 1: there's some line there where to me, I'm thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: these people are actually crying major crying, like low like depressed,
Speaker 1: and I have had very sad thoughts and I was
Speaker 1: very low and telling you know us the followers are
Speaker 1: the fans, and I'm thinking, you know, where's your partner,
Speaker 1: where's your sister? Like are you connecting with them? Are
Speaker 1: you connecting with us and not connecting with people in
Speaker 1: your life that you know aren't just feeding you in
Speaker 1: this way and this in this fame way, because this
Speaker 1: is like TikTok fame, you know, which is very uh
Speaker 1: consumable and constant, and it's uh, it's addictive. People are addictive.
Speaker 1: People are scrolling and like watching a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: and getting in these holes for hours. So it's not
Speaker 1: just people that are watching, they're getting in these holes.
Speaker 1: I think that the people that are posting are getting
Speaker 1: in these holes too. They're addicted to the posting and
Speaker 1: that connection and they're being fed by the followers. So
Speaker 1: what happens, you know, when the followers go cold? And
Speaker 1: I've spoken to some people who have had things go
Speaker 1: wrong and who've had you know, cancelations, and they've felt
Speaker 1: truly hurt by these followers that they don't personally know
Speaker 1: when they abandon them, when they do something and get canceled.
Speaker 1: So I just don't know what you think about that
Speaker 1: whole circle. You know, you're you're treating these followers as
Speaker 1: actual family. And then if these followers aunt follow you
Speaker 1: because it's something that you do that they're disappointed in,
Speaker 1: you go way way lower. Um, you're not spending as
Speaker 1: much time with your own family and friends and relationships
Speaker 1: as you are with these followers. And is that healthy
Speaker 1: or is that cox sick? And I feel for these
Speaker 1: I feel for these influencers who have received fame and
Speaker 1: adoration so young, so it's feeding them um in a
Speaker 1: way that they feel like they have to keep it up,
Speaker 1: because being on a social platform like TikTok means it's
Speaker 1: a constant creating an and and and and being competitive
Speaker 1: and keeping up with other people. So it seems it
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, on the fringe, it seems a
Speaker 1: little scary. I've seen a theme and a pattern of
Speaker 1: influencers that have a lot of followers that they're really
Speaker 1: connecting with. I've seen a pattern of these influencers really
Speaker 1: confiding on a very deep emotional level about oppression, depression
Speaker 1: and bipolar and real serious issues. And I'm seeing them
Speaker 1: feel avoid and seeing them feel a void that maybe
Speaker 1: they feel with or without this app but about that
Speaker 1: they have to keep up, They have to keep up
Speaker 1: in doing this, and so much so that other influencers
Speaker 1: are writing back to them, So I feel for them.
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore, who has a daytime talk show, The Land
Speaker 1: of Your lipstick is too bright, your cleavage is too low,
Speaker 1: your skirt is too short. You have too many white
Speaker 1: guests on, you have too many black guests on. You
Speaker 1: are talking about flowers too much. You didn't make enough
Speaker 1: spinach to flay. And when we come back and after
Speaker 1: the break and up with Clorox, and they are literally
Speaker 1: it is a hard job. They make look easy, but
Speaker 1: you are an actual fucking crossing guard in Look, kids,
Speaker 1: there's big Ben Parliament, like it's endless. Okay, You're on
Speaker 1: a fucking circle. Is I don't know if that's Trafalgar Square.
Speaker 1: I think it is. I have no idea wherever Bucking
Speaker 1: and pal like wherever, all like, there's a it's a
Speaker 1: circle in London and your fucking traffic guard and they're
Speaker 1: trying to tell people sept your scarecrow from the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz. Their arms going in ten different directions. Talk shows,
Speaker 1: everybody pulling you, syndication, talk shows, all the local markets
Speaker 1: have different feelings about what you should be doing, saying whatever,
Speaker 1: God bless, Ellen, Oprah, Drew Barrymore, Wendy Tamarin Hall, all
Speaker 1: of them, God bless. It's not easy. So Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: said about that's why I wasn't built for daytime talk
Speaker 1: show life, Drew Barrymore said, Johnny Depp amber Heard trial
Speaker 1: is a seven layer dip of insanity. Some fucking bots,
Speaker 1: some local markets. Some people must have said to her,
Speaker 1: it's insensitive. Whatever. Okay, it's a twelve layer dip of insanity. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a twelve layer dip of insanity. This is a
Speaker 1: couple who chose to stay with one another when they
Speaker 1: got into a domestic argument on their honeymoon that resulted
Speaker 1: in bruising and on route to Coachella, it was divulged
Speaker 1: that amber Heard, as a practical joke after a domestic
Speaker 1: argument with Johnny Depp put feces in his bed as
Speaker 1: a good idea for a fucking plat practical joke. Let's
Speaker 1: do a mad lib next time. It is a forty
Speaker 1: seven layer dip of insanity, and Drew Barrymore has to
Speaker 1: apologize for her insensitivity and put out an apology. And
Speaker 1: it reminded me of all of these apologies that people
Speaker 1: have to say that are not what they really feel.
Speaker 1: So we've entered the land of fucking watered down celebrity
Speaker 1: society because nobody can have a thought. People will think
Speaker 1: I'm wrong for saying it's a forty seven layer dip
Speaker 1: of insanity. Making fun of insanity. I'm not okay. It's
Speaker 1: in the vernacular. You look, you're crazy. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I know that someone's crazy, that they're mentally ill, that
Speaker 1: I'm diagnosing them. You can't say anything I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: trial is embarrassing to both of them, their families. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's fifty shades of crazy. And the bigger issue, though,
Speaker 1: is inauthentic apologies. People become robots where they have to
Speaker 1: apologize for saying something that's not You say something racist
Speaker 1: that you didn't know what it meant, You apologize and
Speaker 1: you likely mean it. You say something transphobic and you
Speaker 1: didn't understand what you were saying, You apologize and you
Speaker 1: you likely mean it. You say that the Johnny Depp
Speaker 1: amber Heard case isn't seven layer dip of insanity. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you have to apologize, like everybody's have
Speaker 1: to apologize because a bunch of people said, you have
Speaker 1: to apologize if you think you really did something wrong.
Speaker 1: Like we can't just get canceled for everything we say.
Speaker 1: We're getting watered down. We're getting like wrapped in cotton.
Speaker 1: It's too synthetic, it's too bullshit. It's just, oh my god,
Speaker 1: everyone just has to rush to apologize, and and why
Speaker 1: do we want inauthentic apologies? Like I'm not speaking for
Speaker 1: Drew marry More. Maybe she was from the depth of
Speaker 1: her soul apologize, but I doubt it because what she
Speaker 1: said wasn't really that bad. And I just think that
Speaker 1: so many people are being forced to apologize to make
Speaker 1: people feel better. And are we just getting placated, Like
Speaker 1: if you're if your partner apologize but you know they
Speaker 1: didn't really mean that. They did it because you told
Speaker 1: them to apologize, Is that good? Like do we just
Speaker 1: want like these false apologies because we told someone they
Speaker 1: had to apologize. I don't know. I just don't like it.
Speaker 1: It feels insincere, and it feels like every day we're
Speaker 1: holding someone to the point where they must apologize about
Speaker 1: something that might not be that bad. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: So anyway, watch that and see if I'm too crazy
Speaker 1: about it. But I don't think seven it's a twenty.
Speaker 1: I think me saying it's a forty seven layer dip
Speaker 1: is effect