1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: College football apostles. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: It's your boy, George Rice, the former NFL player, college 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: football player, college football. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Analyst over at c W. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: My main man, Ralph Amsden, who is the college football savant, 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: the college football rain man, and the man that knows 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: all the obscure stats. He should be your phone, a 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: friend if you need, if you were on Who Wants 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: to be a Millionaire? We got a lot going this weekend, 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: so some teams had their bye weeks, but there is 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: absolute chaos in college football. The SEC bias is at 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: one hundred percent max right now. Penn State fired James 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Franklin and the ripple effects are being felt all across 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: college football. Shoe companies are involved. This is absolute madness, USC, Michigan, USC, 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. How good are these teams? And so much 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: more Here on the programs. Make sure that you'd like subscribe, 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: get notifications, tell a friend about the show. We always 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: start with our biggest takeaway from last week? Ralph, what 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: was your biggest takeaway from Week seven in college football? 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: As we had in the week eight. 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: I think the Big twelve's got a contender. I think 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: Texas Tech can hang. I don't know, I don't know. 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: About winning the championship, but six games have gone by, 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: and through six games, David Bailey, who they added from 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Stanford as sort of like a rush and linebacker Romelo Height. 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: I think between the two of them is the most 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: successful edge rushing pairing in all of college football. They 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: have two good quarterbacks. Cameron Dickie's a fantastic running back. 29 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: The offensive line is blocked well. They are number two 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: in the country Georgian first quarter scoring and pretty easy 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: to get things work. 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: And I've been saying this that why on earth are 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: we ignoring Texas Tech. It's because they're in the Big Twelve. 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: If they were in the SEC, they'd be the number 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: one team in the nation right now. Oh they would, 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: they would happily. But but they want to keep jumping them. 37 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: They don't believe this Arizona State game this weekend is 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: going to go a long way into But at the 39 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: same time, it won't because they'll. 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: Still be like, oh, it was just Arizona State. 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: They're not even ranked right now, considering that they were 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: ranked last week and they just played without their quarterback. 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: But you know who, who's who's counting? Who's counting? 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Oklahoma was playing without their quarterback. Their quarterback 45 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: just came came back and was buns because he probably 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: shouldn't have been playing. 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: But hey, let's give Oklahoma to benefit of. 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if these Red Raiders have a weak spot, 49 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: but they have a lot of they have. If you 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: were to put together like an all Big twelve team 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: to run up against, they probably have four guys on 52 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: defense that in a conference of like sixteen teams. That's 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: crazy that Malcolm Rodriguez, Romelo Height, David Bailey like that 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: these guys would all be on it. And then their 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: backup quarterback is one of the scariest prospects I've seen 56 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: in a really long time. Physically developed rocket arm can 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: run has poised like I and he grew up in 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: the shadow of University of Texas and he's playing for Tech. 59 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: It's pretty funny. It's kind of like Baker Mayvie. 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: What the craziest part about the whole Texas Tech situation 61 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: is they just had a twenty twenty seven to five 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: star reclassify a twenty twenty six and people were mad. 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Ralph people are mad. Oh see, this is just proof 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: that that college football is broken. College football is broken 65 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: because who the Texas kids. He was gonna take a 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: trip to Georgia and he just canceled it. He's reclassifying 67 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: and he shut down his recruitment. He's more worried about 68 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: money than development. And it's like what what, Yes, Texas 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Tech is buying an amazing roster. Joey McGuire is a 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: very good head coach. How many players has Texas Tech 71 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: put in the NFL? Well, won a lot, but also no, 72 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: not as many as Georgia. But it might become like 73 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: Georgia if Cody Campbell keeps spending that money wisely. 74 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: And it's like the NFL argument is so hard when 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: Patty Mahomes is out here, it's so difficult to. 76 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: Make they are I mean, Crabtree had a good career. 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: There's so many dudes that are just named brand as well. 78 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: But these are not the old days people. Yes, I'm 79 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: not mad at Texas Tech buying up the best recruits, 80 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: because you know what, for so long the have have 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: had so much and now they are getting run out 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: of the building. 83 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: And I told everybody this was like Bane and Batman. 84 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: This was like Bane. He told them, Ralph, right. 85 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 3: No, no, you did not. I loved you attributed probably 86 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: one of my all time favorite movie quotes to the 87 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: wrong character and just alarm bells going off in my head. 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Earlier this week on on Afraid Show, Selena Kyle Catwoman 89 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: told Bruce Wayne that you better batten down the hatches 90 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: because the storm's coming and all of you are going 91 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: to wonder how you live so long, so large, and 92 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: left so little for the rest of us. Like it's 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: time for the rich people to panic, and we're in that. 94 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: We're in that state of panic right now. This is 95 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: also this is kind of how basketball works. You have 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: people reclassify all the time. You've had quarterbacks reclassify. It's 97 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: not and also like they still have to perform. It's 98 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: a risk to pay freshmen, it really is. Yep, I'm 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: an Arizona State graduate. They don't do it. They won't 100 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: pay a freshman. They'll wait until you know, somebody wants to. 101 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Glory and Moore committed, they will, they will pay pay him. 102 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: I promise if they get more committed, they or they will. 103 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: I promise you that. 104 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: It's because they have not run into one of those 105 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: guys that was going to commit, that was that that 106 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: they felt like was gonna for sure be a starter 107 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: on day one, because I promise you when when when 108 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: he does, when Kenny Dillingham does. 109 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: They will pay I promise you. 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, no, that makes sense. But it is risky. 111 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: It's very risky to pay freshmen, yes, and Texas Tech 112 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: has the resources to take that risk right now. And 113 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: also we're in the sort of in between of when 114 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: you can get somebody you know in on a on 115 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: a contract with getting money that is maybe outside of 116 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: the house, you know, because when does that go into effect, 117 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: Because if you can reclassify and be a mid year enrollie, 118 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: maybe that first six months he's outside that and he's 119 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: able to get the figure out. 120 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: Second that you step on campus, that's when it has 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: to start. And they're trying to have where high school 122 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: kids have to then report their deals if they're being 123 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: paid from from schools. The house settlement stuff is still 124 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: a mess because only one conference has signed up for 125 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: the UH for the CSC, the College Sports Commission. Even 126 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: though they all fought to be in there and get 127 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: it signed and get the house settlement, it's. 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Still not resolved. People. 129 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I just want everybody to fully understand that no matter 130 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: what has happened, it's still not resolved. The College Sports 131 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Commission has no power in terms of enforcement yet there 132 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: is nothing is being done, but they're just pretending. 133 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: They're just kicking the can down the street. 134 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: So all the people that fought for this are now like, yeah, yeah, 135 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: we're not gonna sign. 136 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: It, so then you can get punishes. No, this is 137 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: this is madness. 138 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: But my biggest takeaway was from this last week is 139 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: that what we just talked about, nobody's safe right now. 140 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: Oregon's not safe against Indiana, Alabama's not safe versus Tennessee. 141 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Nobody is safe. 142 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: When you line up in college football right now, you 143 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: are not safe. We are constantly seeing these lines fall 144 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: like they're way less two touchdown too touchdown and more 145 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: lines than you have ever seen, Like we should see 146 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: way more in conference thirty point lines. Nope, nope, And 147 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: now them lines ain't even safe. 148 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: The top of the twelve team Yeah, ever seen a 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: top twelve team be a road dog against an unranked team? Yeah? Exactly, yep. 150 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: So I love it. I love it. 151 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: But let's let's get into the topics. Ralph, where are 152 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: we starting at today? 153 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: So? 154 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: Uh, our storyline segment, I want to get right into 155 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: the Deon Sanders, thing that happened this last week. I'm 156 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: overjoyed that you were not aware of it. But Dion 157 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 3: Sanders held a portal hopper scrimmage during the during the 158 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: bye week. This is their bye week. They just finished 159 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: beating Iowa State, and Dion got his team together and 160 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: he said, I'm not crazy enough to think that all 161 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: of you are going to be in this room next year. 162 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: Some of you are going to jump in the portal. 163 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: This is an opportunity for you to get some portal film. 164 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: So the first teamers watch from the sidelines while Colorado 165 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: held an intrasquad scrimmage on Wednesday at the Ford practice facility, 166 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: and Deon said, it's gonna be game day. A lot 167 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: of you want to be in the game on Saturday. 168 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: So you're gonna get in this game right here, play 169 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: all out football, and we're gonna film it and we're 170 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: gonna cut it up. And if you do stay at Colorado, 171 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: this is gonna give you a measuring stick of where 172 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: you're at and what you need to improve. And if 173 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: you don't, this is gonna be the film that you 174 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: cut up. We will hype it up, we'll give it 175 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: to you and We'll make sure you look good and 176 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: you can send this tape to other teams. What do 177 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: you think about this. 178 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: George Dion Sanders, Okay, bring it in everybody. 179 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I could not love this any more. 180 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: I could not love it anymore because Deon Sanders, who 181 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: I think. 182 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Has abused the portal a little bit. 183 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: Right, he understands that and this is the right thing 184 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: for his players because one of the hardest things that 185 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: kids suffer with. I'm talking about the kids that get 186 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: stuck in the transfer portal, whether they get pushed out 187 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: of a school or they voluntarily choose to leave, is 188 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: when they have not played. It is hard for them 189 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: to get to convince other places that they can play 190 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: football because they haven't played and all they have is 191 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: cut ups from practice. Oh, they're on scout team and 192 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: all this stuff, and it ain't the same, Like it 193 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: doesn't feel the same. But when you have you know, 194 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: if you're a quarterback hopping in the portal and you 195 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: actually have live game reps essentially where somebody's trying to 196 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: sack you, hit you all of those things, or you're 197 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: a wide receiver and you might get blown up and 198 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: you catch balls and all that. 199 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Dude, This is. 200 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: The perfect opportunity for kids to potentially get on the 201 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: field at Colorado or find a new place if they 202 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: choose to leave Colorado, or like Deonzai, use it as 203 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: a measuring stick. 204 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: This is honestly great for the kids. 205 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: But you have most coaches who do not have the 206 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: who don't have the foresight and live from a place 207 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: of scarcity that they wouldn't dare do this. You have 208 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: to be confident and be able to stand in who 209 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: you are to do this, because if not, you're like, 210 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, my kids will hop into portal. Create 211 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: a culture where they don't want to leave, a culture 212 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: where they know they're gonna get developed, a culture where 213 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: they know that they're gonna be able to get nil 214 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: money as well, and you will retain the majority of 215 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: your roster. Yes, some people will leave because it might 216 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: be best for them to leave for either personal reasons, 217 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: football reasons, financial reasons, whatever it is. And if you 218 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: are a coach, that is part of your task is 219 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: to be able to help the kids in your program 220 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: to either get to a new program or to stay 221 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: put in your program. I love this from Dion Sanders. 222 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: This is this is the Lord's work. 223 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: I get the feeling that he's not rooting on anybody's demise, 224 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: even if they don't show up for him in the 225 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: way that they would hope. I don't think he's a 226 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: grudge holder. I think he sees Cormoni MacLean out here 227 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: getting interceptions at Florida. I think he even though they, 228 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, we figure that there's probably some bad blood there, 229 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: I think he's happy about it. I think he wants 230 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: to see these young men succeed. 231 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Yep. 232 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: And I like that. It feels like the most modern 233 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: era story. Though I can't recall anything like this. It 234 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of the College Football Playoff 235 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: last year, when you know, Bo Prabula had to leave, 236 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: Devin Brown had to leave, but Kenny Dillingham had people 237 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: who already picked like he had a tight end Marcuston Douglas, 238 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 3: who already announced that he was transferring back to Florida 239 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: State play in the College Football Playoff with Arizona State. 240 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: It's it is just the most modern thing. And I 241 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: know that there are fans of other sports who look 242 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: at this and they don't necessarily think it's a big deal. 243 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: Like if you're a soccer fan, like you could get 244 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: players on loan. You know, there's things that aren't super 245 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: But if you're a college football fan, it's just a 246 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: new and different thing every single day, and you know, 247 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: say what you want, love it or hate it, you 248 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: do have to stop and really chew on this story. 249 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: It is very, very different. And then you gotta wonder, dude, 250 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: should we be doing this? 251 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Yes, you should be doing this, Yes you should be. 252 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: And there are so many people that live from a 253 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: scarcity mindset, crabs in a bucket. Oh my god, if 254 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: somebody like I can't help anybody else out because that 255 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: might hurt me. 256 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: No, that's not how this works. I love it. I 257 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: love it. Good good on beyond that, this is the 258 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: Lord's work. 259 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: This is exactly what college football coaches should be doing. 260 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: Now. Okay, So to move on to our next story 261 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: and our next couple of stories. Actually, sometimes I feel 262 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: bad for you, George, because you are we're paired up 263 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: in this together, have been for many years, and we're different. 264 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: We look we look alike, and we're both great athletes. 265 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: But there are some things in there that such as 266 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: like I am financially ignorant, not illiterate, ignorant, like I 267 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: just I kind of exist outside of a space of 268 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: where I'm concerned about the business of college football, and 269 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: I get caught off guard by a lot of things 270 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: because that's not that's not really my area of interest 271 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: or expertise. However, these next two topics, they seem important, 272 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: and I do need you to explain to me why 273 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: they matter, why they are important, Okay, and one of 274 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: which you put out a tweet and you're getting some 275 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: backlash on it right now, but you alluded to the 276 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: fact that it is very possible Adidas is involved in 277 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: guiding the hand of Penn State into looking for their 278 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: next coach. And so my question for you, George, and 279 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: what I think a lot of other people would would 280 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: question you on, maybe some with malice, maybe some with curiosity. 281 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: Why why would a Das be involved in something like this? 282 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: Their shoe people, there are apparel people. 283 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 284 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: First thing is, Ralph, you've known me for a long time. Yeah, 285 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: how many times? Like what do you think about batting? 286 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Average is when when when I tell you, because there's 287 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that doesn't go on air when 288 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: I tell you, like yo, like this is what's happening 289 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, And blah blah blah, like what is 290 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: my batting average? If I'm like, yo, yore, here is 291 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: what I heard, and this is how it's supposed to 292 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: play out, and here's what's really going on, and not 293 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: I think that this is what's happening. This is what 294 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm told is what's happening. 295 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the stuff that you talked to me 296 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: about versus the stuff that you actually put out publicly 297 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: is probably like a five to one ratio. And so 298 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, I would say that when you're putting it 299 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: out publicly, you feel really good when you're just talking 300 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: to me about it. So here's an example. You called 301 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: me and said, this is what's going on with Dean 302 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: Sanders x y Z health issues. Here's what he's gonna 303 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: announce and win. You didn't say anything publicly about it. 304 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: You didn't like, you didn't report it. You didn't say like, hey, 305 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I know what's going on. I know why he wasn't 306 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: at Spring. But he told me. And then I went 307 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: to my kids and I was like, hey, watch what 308 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: this press conference this is gonna be about. This is 309 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: gonna be really really interesting. We're gonna watch kind of 310 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: a man talk about his actual like medical procedures mortality, 311 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: that this is very different. It's gonna be a very 312 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: different thing that you're about to witness. And so like, 313 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: I not only did I trust you on it, I 314 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: trust enough to like sit with my kids and watch 315 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: this this press cover. Like I I'm somebody like maybe 316 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: to a lot of people on Twitter, you're like blue 317 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: check mark former football player. But the conversations that you 318 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: and I have there is not not hyperbole, not guessing that. 319 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: That's just not how it is in our conversation. And 320 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: I'm also like, I'm pretty aggressively honest. And when I 321 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: when people do bloviate or they are vapid, I call 322 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: that type of stuff out. That's not type of relationship 323 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: we have. When you tell me something's about to happen, 324 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: it's on the way. And when you tweet about something, 325 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: it means that you've gone far beyond just feel like 326 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: you're comfortable to talk to me about it. So I 327 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: not only is it a good track record, like I 328 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: would my news from you. I would, And that's not 329 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: me blowing smoke for the sake of this. I think 330 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: you know I'm I'm chronically honest to my own detriment. 331 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: I would trust you on anything in this regard. Okay. 332 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: So with that said, the tweet that I put out was, 333 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: I said, let me find it. I said, per sources, 334 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: Adidas is involved with the next Penn State higher They 335 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: are trying to protect their massive investment. They did not 336 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: get Franklin fired, but are definitely pushing to get one 337 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: particular coach. Question is will he say yes? And what 338 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: if they play into January? That was the tweet, And 339 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 2: mind you, this kind of followed up on the on 340 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: the heels of let me find the guy's name. It 341 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: is Mike Astey, who is a like he covers college 342 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: football for. He's a managing editor at West Virginia Sports now, 343 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sports Now, national writer at Yard Barker, contributor to 344 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: Sirius XM, and then a bunch of other places. Right, 345 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: So he tweeted out the other day essentially that Adidas 346 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: got James Franklin fired, or that they had a hand 347 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: in it because he wanted because they wanted to, Like, 348 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: they're concerned about this brand deal. And if you don't know, 349 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: Penn State is switching from Nike. They've been with Nike 350 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: for thirty three years. They were actually the I believe 351 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: the first school that Phil Knight and company signed to 352 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: like apparel deal even before, or that they were the 353 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: first one. And now here's what I do know that 354 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: Joe Paterno and Phil Knight. 355 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Were super close, super super close. 356 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: There was a building name that Nike after Joe Paterno, 357 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: all of these things. So and that Phil Night actually 358 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: got involved late with the with the negotiations. There's stuff 359 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: going on, like the Border Trustees is not happy with 360 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: their with Pat Kraft, their Penn State's athletic director because 361 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: they're like, yo, you didn't tell. 362 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: Us everything with this deal. 363 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 2: You gave us notes and this didn't really match up 364 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: exactly right, and that the Nike deal was better long term, 365 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: but that the Adidas deal, which is a three year 366 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: of a ten year around three hundred million dollars. But 367 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: they're also going to here, here's the important point. Adidas 368 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: is contributing to to their NIL and then athlete branding 369 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: and all of this stuff. And so they're going to 370 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: essentially saying that they're going to contribute to their NIL 371 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: stuff and sign guys to Adidas deals and then market 372 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: some of their players. And my entire and what I've 373 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: heard about this situation is exactly what I tweeted that 374 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: pit that Adidas is pushing one particular coach, and there 375 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: was pushback and langdon trap well. 376 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Did I say his name right? 377 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: I don't make sure you get you don't disrespect your detractor, yes, Land. 378 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, so and and this is and I 379 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: wanted to say it right because I don't what there's 380 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: no disrespect that He was, yes, like you he's locked 381 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: in with with pen Penn State. And he was like, George, 382 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: do you think that that Pat Craft is gonna let 383 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: a shoe company get involved get involved in this? 384 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, actually I do. 385 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Adidas is essentially, if you think about this, Adidas is essentially. 386 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: A Penn State booster coming up. 387 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: Now, mind you, this doesn't start till next year in 388 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, but we're getting ready to think that 389 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: that Adidas, who this is the biggest deal that they've 390 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: ever done with at school. 391 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: They have overpaid for this. 392 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: Why can I can I interrupew you real quick because 393 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Penn State fans might hear that and take it as disrespect. 394 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: Why is Adidas overpaying for this particular contract? 395 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Because number one, Penn State is one of the biggest 396 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: alumni bases in college football, they sell tons of merch 397 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: like it is one of the biggest brands, and so 398 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Adidas needs them to be good. Adidas can't have them 399 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: higher and it not work out well. So this is 400 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: no different than Oregon's biggest booster, Phil Knight. Do you 401 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: think that anybody gets hired in a significant position at 402 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Oregon that impacts the bottom line? 403 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: Ralph, whether it's basketball. 404 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Football, even softball, that that that Phil Knight's not like okay, 405 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. 406 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: I've seen his parking space at all ten. 407 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Do you believe that that code that anything's happening at 408 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: Texas Tech without code significant, without Cody Campbells stamp of approval? 409 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: Not right now? 410 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: How about you know at Florida or Who's or Auburn 411 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: or any of these places. 412 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: Or Lex Westerner at or Les Wexner at Ohio State 413 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: or the giant booster that helped fund the Bryce Underwood 414 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: flip at Michigan, like some people got. 415 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: Influence, correct, And y'all don't believe that a shoe company 416 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: who's now doing in kind of an un precedented deal 417 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: is not going to say, listen, we need to. 418 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Like like crapa crap. 419 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: Yes, you get to have your say so, but we 420 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: gotta stamp off on this because yeah, and sometimes that 421 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: help and all of this stuff, so we gotta be 422 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: okay with this. 423 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: Hire. 424 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes that phrasing is like, hey, let us know how 425 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: we can support you in this, followed by a long, 426 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: silent stare. 427 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, just. 428 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: Let's let us know as you you know, as you 429 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: move through the process, so we can be of assistance. 430 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: It stares you directly in the face, and you're like 431 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: it because because you can apply pressure without explicitly saying, hey, 432 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: don't do anything without without hitting us up. 433 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm letting you know that. 434 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: And there's nothing weak or insulting about having that level 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: of power or for friend, they are in your corner. 436 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Like, for instance, my son, he's a grown 437 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: independent man, he's getting his own money, he's in college, 438 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: all of them things. Do you think that he's gonna 439 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: make a significant financial decision or something without that could 440 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: if it blows. 441 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Up, I might end up having to help him out. 442 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: Do you think that I'm not getting a phone call 443 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: like like a dad, I'm thinking about. 444 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Doing doing this? All right? Son? 445 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Go on or nah, don't do this because because if you. 446 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: Do this, yo, yo, you're on your own. Yeah, you 447 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: don't want to be you don't want you if you 448 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: get into a three hundred million dollars deal, Like God, 449 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: think about just as a regular person. You got somebody 450 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: who invests thirty thousand dollars in you, like they just 451 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: in in something that you're working on, Like they're gonna 452 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: have a say, yes, this is three hundred million dollars 453 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: at what was? If I'm not mistake and Phil Knight's 454 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: like original contract. Yes, with any institution, this is a 455 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: this is yes, man, if I'm stepping out of bound, 456 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: this is a proxy war a little bit too. 457 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh oh, it definitely is. This is Adidas and 458 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: Nike are at war right now. This this is a 459 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: war between the two of them. And that was a 460 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: shot across across Nike's bound And yeah, that that is 461 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: definitely a shot. 462 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: So that you that you said landed, This is a 463 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: shot that landed. 464 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Yes, this is this one? Was this one was? 465 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh god, what's that show I watch on on Oh, 466 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: there's a show I watch on Paramount now where they 467 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: killed the dude's son. 468 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Pierce Pierce Broston's son can't can you look up the show? 469 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. 470 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: So Pierce Broston is like, this gangster guy is like 471 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: a you know, like a crime family. 472 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: Yes, Mobland. 473 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: He kills his son, and they basically are like, it's 474 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: like it's a shot across the back. They they they 475 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: could have killed the one that they didn't really care 476 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: about that that much, but instead they killed the one 477 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 2: that they actually cared about. He actually that mattered to him. 478 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: And that's what Penn State did. That's what Adidas did 479 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to the Nike. They kn't like, the only person that 480 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: you could have killed or got to more. 481 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Is is Oregon. 482 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: That's the only other way that you could have heard him, 483 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: heard him, hurt him worse. You couldn't have hurt him 484 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: worse with USC. You couldn't have hurt him worse with anybody. 485 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: And mind you, the USC contract is getting renegotiated and 486 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: all that stuff too, and Adidas is trying to steal 487 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: USC too. This is a whole other, whole nother conversation. 488 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: But uh but uh yeah, so that's the situation. And 489 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: so we and you have heard the names Kurt Signetti 490 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: and you've heard the name Matt Ruhle involved in this, 491 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: People are like, oh, he would never leave there. Indiana 492 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: is a is a big time Adidas property. Yeah in basketball? 493 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: Are they good in football? 494 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Now? Yes? 495 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: Would Indiana is a and And mind you, I mean 496 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: this with all the respect in the world to Indiana. 497 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: They have great fans and all of these things. 498 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: Indiana football doesn't matter yet they are not a significant 499 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: driver of revenue at all. 500 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Indiana basketball is a whole different thing, whole different thing. 501 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: Like if we were talking about Penn State, and if 502 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: we were talking about Indiana basketball and Indiana fans should 503 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: be able to understand this. If we were talking about 504 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: Indiana basketball still in Penn State basketball's coach, what would 505 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: we be talking about. But now we're talking about Penn 506 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: State trying to steal Indiana's football coach. 507 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing, except except opposite. 508 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: Indiana's just having a good a good run right right 509 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: now and they're trying to level up as a program, 510 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: and I've commended them. They're trying to do what Oregon has. 511 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: Done so and it's not it's not robbing Peter to 512 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: pay Paul to want Penn State to hire current Signetti. 513 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: It's all Paul to them. Yes, it's all Paul like, 514 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: so and you and I actually had. 515 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: This feelish Indiana. 516 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: They'll help backfield in Indiana or or they will try 517 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: to help out one of their other brands that that's 518 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: more significant. 519 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: And you so you, you and I actually had this 520 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: conversation last year. I don't know if you remember this. 521 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: I called you and I was like, ooh, Adidas really 522 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: wasn't ready for Arizona State in Indiana to make the 523 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: college football playoffs. Because I'm an Adidas guy. I where Adidas. 524 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: My family wears Adidas. You know that. And I called 525 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: you and I was like, man, I got a friend 526 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: who went to school in Bloomington, and you know, I 527 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: went to Arizona State and I'm on the website trying 528 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: to get apparel. Like they weren't ready. They didn't do 529 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: anything special. They didn't really move or promote the merch 530 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: all that much on the football end. They there was 531 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: no ultimately, like you know, you know a school that 532 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: they do promote is Washington. That is a school that 533 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: because I'm on Adidas website once a week looking at deals. 534 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: My son's a Washington fan for who knows why. And 535 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: I got a neighbor, who's a big Indiana guy. I'm 536 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: an Arizona State gu. I'm always on the website. Two 537 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: of those teams made the college football playoffs and they 538 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: just weren't ready. They didn't have anything, couple of generic 539 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: T shirts. They really didn't move outside of their apparel plan. 540 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: They Who knows why Adidas has Arizona State. They had 541 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: Indiana for basketball, and maybe Adidas had it for Hurley 542 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: like they were betting on Bobby Hurley being maybe better 543 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: than he was. But but you know a lot of 544 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: these are basketball investments and the football got good on accident. 545 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: Where do you think, Ralph, that Indiana football ranks amongst 546 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: Texas A and M, Miami, Washington, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Kansas, 547 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: and I'm talking about in football, Nebraska, in Louisville, n 548 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: C State in college football. 549 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: Last last This was not because you're not just factoring 550 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: in last year. You're factoring in when they signed these contracts. 551 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: Ralph, I am on Adidas site. I typed in college football. 552 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, here's the exact order of the 553 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: brands that are on their site. Okay, Texas Tech like 554 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: like in terms of I typed in college foot football, 555 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: So so we can go to Texas Tech There Investments, Washington, Miami, 556 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, Arizona. I'm just going in order of the 557 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: way that they showed up Texas A and M Washington 558 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: again grambling Texas Tech because it's because remember they are 559 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: big in the mahomes business. So Miami, Mississippi State, Arizona State, 560 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: Texas Tech, in c State, Georgia Tech, Texas A and 561 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: M Nebraska, Kansas East, Arizona State, Miami, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Miami, 562 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Nebraska, Washington, Nebraska, Washington, Louisville, Louisville, n C State, 563 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: Mississippi State, Kansas, Arizona. Hold up, I'm at the end 564 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: of the page. I haven't gotten to Indiana yet. 565 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: No, And I text you about this too, didn't I 566 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: Adidas has so many red teams, the. 567 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: Ralph the next to there's one, two, three, four, five things. 568 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: It is the fifth to last thing on Adidas site 569 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: when you type in college football mm hmm fit. It 570 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: is on the second page, at the bottom of the 571 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: second page. 572 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: So don't sit here and tell me. 573 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: And then and and I'm and this is not a 574 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: knock on Indiana because I love what they're doing. I 575 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 2: love their trying to come up like this is no 576 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: knock on them, but this is no different than what 577 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: Oregon went through. Like, there's no difference. They're in the 578 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: same boat right now. So so it's not a knock 579 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: on them. 580 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: Oregon was them. 581 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 3: No. Indiana fans will tell you this that Adidas isn't 582 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: like that that they got good in football and they 583 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: didn't have, uh like a plan to really promote it. 584 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 3: And not only are you in the team apparel business, 585 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: you're also in the colorway business. So if you're on there, 586 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: like just in red and black and red and white apparel, 587 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 3: Indiana is prioritized behind the Louisville's and in the Texas 588 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: Techs and all of these other schools that have that colorway. Nebraska, right, 589 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: red and white selling better for Nebraska than it is 590 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: for Indiana, and so it's not promoted very well. And 591 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: so you know, and again that's we're talking football, we're 592 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: not talking basketball, which Adidas I'm sure treats Indiana very well. 593 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: There is a precious investment for them on the basketball 594 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: and I'm sure of it, but you know, I don't know. 595 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna deep this guy. We've had all these conversations. 596 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: It's just not you know, we're talking to each other 597 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: defending a point that I don't think you need to defend. 598 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: These are big time business investments, and these businesses want 599 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: you to succeed so that you will sell more apparel 600 00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: so that they can get their investment back on. 601 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: So I'm this is no knock against Indiana, but reality 602 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: is reality. But there are some other aspects to it, 603 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: which with which is timing? 604 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: Right? 605 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: Kurtzignetti like, there there's kind of two paths, right, So 606 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: he would be my number one guy that if I 607 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: could get him, okay, because you're gonna bring juice, You're 608 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: gonna bring energy, like he's going to get out there 609 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: and Penn State is going to be talked about, like 610 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: Penn State is already one of the biggest brands in 611 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 2: college football, but now you've thrown gasoline on them because 612 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: this dude's a maniac, right it, And and I mean 613 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: that in a good way. 614 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 615 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: So he would be my first hire, but the problem is. 616 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: I can't see And then also I think that you 617 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: have to factor in he was sixty one when he 618 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 2: got the Indiana job, so he felt passed over people. 619 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: Weren't you know what I mean for a long time. 620 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: And now he's sixty four and he's like, I'm trying 621 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: to get to a championship period. I you know, everybody 622 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: else they got their turn, this is my turn. Now 623 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: they are And he's got his boys with him. So 624 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: he and this isn't going to be a money play 625 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: because he's making good money at Indiana. He's making nine 626 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: million dollars coaches pool is really good. This ain't about 627 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: money because if Penn State pays him eleven minute, there's like, 628 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: you don't really jump around for a couple of dollars 629 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: at that point, at that point in time. But this 630 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: can be about can I win a national championship here? 631 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: So there is two and I do believe and I've 632 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: talked about the world's changing all this stuff, But there 633 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: are two paths Ralph. 634 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: One of them is. 635 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: What if Indiana wins the Big Ten and they don't 636 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: play till the second round of the playoffs in in 637 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: January and essentially January first, Mmm, you can't announce him 638 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: as your head coach. 639 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: You cannot. 640 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: So even if you having an agreement in principle, if 641 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: Indiana goes to go win a national championship. 642 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: Can you count on. 643 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: That it would be outside the portal window too? Right? 644 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: Yes, So can you count on that to where you're like, 645 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: oh yeah, our our head coaches, you know, like, if 646 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: he won a national championship, can you count on the 647 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: fact that he's one hundred going to still leave? No? 648 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: Right, that's tough. I mean, I just and then you 649 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: never know what's in a dude's heart and head. If 650 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 3: if he wins a Natty, why would why would he leave? 651 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 652 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: Like, I can win, I can win win here. I 653 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: don't need to go nowhere else. 654 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've taken away the one doubt. What you need 655 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: is for in the Big Ten Championship for Ryan Day 656 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: to step on their necks for me to get in 657 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 3: his head. Yeah, which is what happened to Brian Kelly, right, yep, 658 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: It's happened to coaches all over the place, like I 659 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: need better players. Because one thing about college coaches that 660 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: we never seem to factor in all the way. And 661 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 3: you watch how college coach acts when they walk onto 662 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: a campus full of players that got the last coach fired, 663 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: You'll know exactly what what college coaches are about. When 664 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 3: you see a college coach walk onto a campus where 665 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 3: the last coach got fired. They don't trust a single 666 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: one of those players, because you guys got the last 667 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: coach fired. You're not gonna get me fired. If I 668 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: get fired, it's gonna be by players I bring in. 669 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 670 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: And you know what Kurt Signetti would do the first 671 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: day when he gets announced that one of the basketball games, 672 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: he gonna walk. 673 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: Up, walk on the court. 674 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: F Ohio State, f Alabama, f Oregon, f all of him. 675 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be better than them, am. 676 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 2: I, because because that's what he did in Indiana. So 677 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: if you don't think he's gonna do it with a 678 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 2: Penn State logo, but I believe that Penn State should 679 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 2: hire one of two coaches. Brian Hartline, who is the 680 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: officer coordinator at Ohio State. His recruiting juice will translate buddy, 681 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 2: because he's the magic at Ohio State's wide receiver recruiting 682 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: and at you know, just the recruiting in general. He 683 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: is the magic aside from the brand, of course, he's 684 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: the magic. I would hire him or which which he 685 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: can be named head coach and still coaching in the playoffs, 686 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: which is what Dan Lanning did at Georgia and then 687 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 2: at taking an Oregon job, or I would hire Fran 688 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: Brown from Syracuse. 689 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: Do you know how much. 690 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: Juice either one of those dudes is gonna be able 691 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 2: to generate surrounding Penn State in press conferences and the like. 692 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: Fran Brown with a Penn State logo is. 693 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: Going to sign a top five class every year? Probably? 694 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: Yah. 695 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: But y'all want Matt Matt rule, and y'all want you know, 696 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: Nick Saban to come out of retirement and urban Meyer 697 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: and stop living in the past. 698 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 3: Greg McElroy wants Pat Fitzgerald. 699 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald. 700 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 2: Pet Fitzgerald will do a great job of building a consistent, 701 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 2: very good football team. 702 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 3: Now you know what? 703 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: You know what that I love the recruit a top 704 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: five class every year, I don't know about that. 705 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 3: I love the idea of Penn State bringing somebody in 706 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 3: who wasn't aware of what was going on in the 707 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: locker room. Uh, that's not a joke. I'm genuinely laughing 708 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: at the at the prospect of like anyway we can move. So, 709 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: while we're recording, Michigan has solidified their stance against a 710 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: two point four billion dollar public investment in the Big Ten. 711 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 3: So Michigan is on record. Michigan Regent Jordan Acker just said, 712 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: enough is enough. Make no mistake. In five years, we 713 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: would regret this capital deal. George, I don't fully understand 714 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: what this even is. Will you explain to me why 715 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 3: the Big ten is seeking out two point four billion 716 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: dollars and why Michigan USC have come out against it? 717 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michigan, Ohio State. 718 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: You should be thanking Michigan right now because you were 719 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 2: on board, apparently with a dumb decision. USC. Great job 720 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: if you were fully against it as well. This is 721 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 2: one hundred percent lunacy. And the reason why because this 722 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: is private equity. Money es safely and I know that 723 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: part of it was going to be like the California 724 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: Firefighters or Police department pension fund and all of this stuff, 725 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: private investment and private equity. You know, we were getting 726 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: ready to spend some truth because the lights just went out. 727 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: But what was going to happen to the Big ten 728 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: on the back end of this? 729 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: If you've covered college football. 730 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: For any amount of time, if you've been following college 731 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: football apostles for any amount of time, this was going 732 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: to cause the Big ten to extend their media rights 733 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: obligation their granted rights for an additional minimum of ten years. Ralph, 734 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 2: who at some point in time signed a groundbreaking twelve year, 735 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 2: two billion dollar deal that was the greatest thing that 736 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: ever was. College football had ever seen so much more 737 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: money than anybody had ever seen and is now defunct. 738 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 3: Would you be talking about the Conference of Champions. 739 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 2: Yes, the PAC twelve, Ralph, we have seen this movie 740 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: before extending your grant of rights for additional For this 741 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: eleventy billion dollars up front, that two billion dollars will 742 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 2: be chump change. 743 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: In twelve years. That will be pennies on the dollar. 744 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: The whole thing with these media rights deals is to 745 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 2: keep them long but short at the same time intermediate 746 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: deal so you can keep getting back to the table. 747 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: Only in baseball do guys sign the deals ten twelve years, 748 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 2: But they do it when they're thirty because they know 749 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: they're getting over that get their dollar cost averaging it. 750 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: In this the Big ten is still in its prime. 751 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 2: It's always in its prime. Ask ask the acc how 752 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: good that that deal that was so magical to them 753 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 2: that's keeping them in their granted rights till twenty thirty five, 754 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: twenty thirty six, feels right now. It feels good because 755 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: they they've held Florida State in Clemson hostage, but it 756 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: don't feel. 757 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Real good because you couldn't get back to the table. 758 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: And now your schools are operating at a at a 759 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: significant disadvantage. So, Ralph, I didn't tell you what my 760 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 2: stance on it, why I was so far against it 761 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: prior to the show. 762 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: But now that I've laid this out for you, what 763 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? 764 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 3: Well, if you're comparing it to the PAC twelve, then 765 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: you know how I'm gonna feel. That's that was the worst. 766 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: The conference I loved is now dead and gone. And 767 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: so you know, you have always been an advocate for 768 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 3: shorter deals and more opportunities to renegotiate, and so you know, 769 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 3: again financially ignorant at times. I'm gonna go with you 770 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: on this one. I don't really care the big The 771 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 3: big ten is the has they're out here like to 772 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 3: be in a position where you turned two point four 773 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 3: billion down over eighteen teams or whatever. That sounds nice, 774 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to see what that'd be like. 775 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so. 776 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 2: And Michigan's statement was like, yeah, this since essentially I'm paraphrasing, Yeah, 777 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: all this money is cool and all, but it doesn't 778 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: address costs, like like like we're spending too much. 779 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: We gotta figure that out. 780 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 2: And and like yeah, all this money sounds sounds cool 781 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: and all, but it don't address the real problems. 782 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: Makes sense. Well, we got some breaking news, George. 783 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 2: Yes, while we were when when when the lights went out, 784 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 2: we learned that Indiana will not. 785 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: Be losing their head coach Kurt Signatty. He ain't going nowhere. 786 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: He will be at Indiana. 787 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: The man just leveraged this thing into a new deal 788 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 2: that is going to pay him at eleven point six 789 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: million dollars per year. 790 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, he going home. 791 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: And he gonna look his wife in the face and 792 00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 2: be like, so are you saying baby? Because and by 793 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 2: that I mean because he was at Alabama. He wanted 794 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: to take that job at what what was it? 795 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: Are you are you p. 796 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 3: Are you p U I? Or whatever? 797 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Division two job. 798 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: He takes the he takes the job, takes a significant 799 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 2: pay cut, a step back because he's at Alabama recruiting 800 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 2: coordinator and everything else, and takes a huge step back. 801 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 2: And she wasn't on board. At first she was like, yo, 802 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 2: you're making a lot of money everything as well, like don't, 803 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: don't do this. At first, she finally signs reluctantly signs 804 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 2: off on it. 805 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: And now and now the man who's gonna. 806 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: Be one hundred million up before you can blink, before 807 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: you can blink, he one hundred million up. 808 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 3: Not bad to get that at sixty four. That's a 809 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 3: that is the gamble paying off. And I know that's 810 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 3: the same age as Kyle Whittingham, who getting ready to 811 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 3: retire right now. Kurt Signetti is getting started. So that 812 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 3: the statement from their athletic director, I. 813 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: Know what it is. 814 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 3: Let go for what he said. 815 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: He said, he's not fucking leaving. That's what That's what 816 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: the statement said. 817 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 3: Direct her complaints that I'm mad at unafraid show dot 818 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 3: com uh at any inner university. We are committed to 819 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 3: performing at the highest levels in everything we do, and 820 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: no one has exemplified that more than coach Signetti put simply, 821 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 3: Siga is a winner from last year's College football Player 822 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 3: appearance in this year's Top three national ranking, the IU 823 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 3: football program success has been tremendous. Kurt and Manette Signetti 824 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 3: are home in Indiana, and we are delighted that the 825 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 3: Signetti family will be Hoogier's for for many years to come. George, 826 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 3: what do you think eleven point six million dollars a 827 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 3: year could buy in Bloomington? 828 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 2: Bloomington, Oh and after about five years, most of Bloomington. 829 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about. I told you in the University of 830 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 3: Indiana is one of the or Indiana University is one 831 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: of the best music schools in the country. Now I'm 832 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 3: looking at that and I'm like, oh, let me go 833 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: send my son there, get him on playing guitar and 834 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 3: and and and you know, maybe he can provide some 835 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 3: some acoustic entertainment for Kurt Signetty. 836 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: Get off that dumb Washington idea. But yeah, man, I'm 837 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: happy for Kurt Signatty his third contract in two years, 838 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 2: which is wild, But he was making nine million already. 839 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe that this deal, that him leaving Indiana 840 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 2: or not, was ever going to be about money. I 841 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: don't think it was always going to be about and like, yes, 842 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: the school did clearly get get held hostage here, but 843 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: but actually I don't even think they got held hostage. 844 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 2: They were they were like, hey, Kurt, hey, Kurt do 845 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 2: you want to raise and they were like it was 846 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 2: like sure, yes, and then you. 847 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: For the and it was like, I. 848 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: Don't even think they negotiated. They were like, are you 849 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: cool with eleven point point six? He was like, yeah, 850 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 2: how much from my assistance? 851 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: Twelve eight? Yeah? Cool? 852 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 2: That works all right, Cool, let's go back practice. Like 853 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 2: I think that this was this was probably the easiest negotiation. 854 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 3: Of all time, negotiating against nobody. 855 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 2: So I believe don't is going to be about whether 856 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: he couldn't get to the if he believed he could 857 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, win a national championship in Indiana, 858 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: and if he was going to be willing to leave 859 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: to go to Penn State before the season was over. 860 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 3: There. You don't do this, though, You don't unless it 861 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: was a risk that somebody could come and pay him more. 862 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course somebody could try to pay him more, 863 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 2: But I don't believe that it was ever gonna come 864 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 2: down to money. 865 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate Indiana taking care of him, for sure, 866 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 3: But like I'm saying, you don't do it unless you're 867 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: a little scared. 868 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. 869 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me, let let me listen to what 870 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 2: Indiana just re released from Kurt Signetti. 871 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: Are we cutting this part? Are we just giving everybody 872 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 3: a moment of silence? 873 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: No? 874 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, I'm listening to what he's saying 875 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 2: about it. You know, he's proud to be a Hoosier. 876 00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 2: His wife loves it there, he loves the school. Oh see, 877 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate this. He's like the way that they've embraced 878 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: us and loved us. Oh yeah, I just said I'm 879 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: gonna work daily, work hard, and I appreciate y'all and 880 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 2: everything else. 881 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 1: That's it. That's good stuff. 882 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of coach statements, I want to get into 883 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 3: our reister wrong segment. I'm gonna read you some coach 884 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 3: statements and you tell me if they are reister or wrong. 885 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 3: And these are about the rumors that are flying around. 886 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: Not everybody has spoken on it, but enough people have. 887 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 3: So let's start out with your boy Dan Lanning quote. 888 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 3: I've been very clear and adamant that I'm not going anywhere. 889 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,280 Speaker 3: A lot of coaches use that as an opportunity to say, Okay, 890 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm either going to get a big raise where I'm at, 891 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 3: or maybe they really want that other job. I don't 892 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 3: want any other jobs. I've got the job. I want 893 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 3: reister wrong way to handle this. 894 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 2: That is the reister way to handle it. That is 895 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 2: the one reister that it is emphatic. There's there's no 896 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: double talk. It is if you do the opposite, you 897 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: are a liar. You are a fraudster. You are a liar. 898 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: That is. 899 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: Like, that's backing. That's not even painting yourself into a corner. 900 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 2: That is locking yourself into a box. And I mean 901 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 2: like you like you didn't get painted in the corner. 902 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 2: You painted the corner and you stood over there like 903 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 2: like you painted yourself and called it a corner. 904 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: Okay, next up, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri. Uh, there's no 905 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,720 Speaker 3: such thing as journalistic integrity on social media. There's just wild, 906 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,479 Speaker 3: outlandish reporting. He's talking about himself and his assistant, Kirby Moore. 907 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 3: Kirby Moore never interviewed, He didn't talk to anybody at Arkansas. 908 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 3: It was all a bunch of bull crap. I don't 909 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 3: want to focus on that section. There's no such thing 910 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 3: as journalistic integrity on social media. Rights to or wrong way? 911 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 2: Wait he was he was asked about the Indiana job. 912 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, worry about the Penn State job. 913 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, he's so he's been linked to Florida, 914 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 3: to the potential to an Auburn, which are not open yet. Yeah, 915 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 3: and Arkansas, but Arkansas more so for his assistant, Kirby Moore. 916 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 3: So he's saying there's no such thing as journalistic integrity 917 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: on social media. There's just wild, out landish reporting. Kirby 918 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 3: Moore never interviewed, he didn't talk to anybody in Arkansas. 919 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 3: It's all a bunch of crap. So he's speaking about 920 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 3: him being linked to jobs and his assistant being linked 921 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: to jobs. 922 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that that is reister for right now 923 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,240 Speaker 2: because Florida is not open and neither is Auburn. So 924 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: so what once those become open. Yes, the Eli Drinkowitz 925 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: will get calls and people have wondered if he would 926 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 2: go to Penn State. I don't believe that Penn State 927 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 2: is the spot for him. People have asked me about 928 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 2: will Stein at Penn State. I was like, I don't 929 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,240 Speaker 2: think that Penn State is going to I don't even 930 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,959 Speaker 2: if will Stein did do a good job at Penn State. 931 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 2: I think that he would leave if Texas a and 932 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 2: m or Texas or Oklahoma became open and they offered 933 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 2: him because that's his region, that's where his fan is. 934 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: All that stuff. 935 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: Not that he not not the Penn State is not 936 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: a special place. But it's like Mario Cristoball at Oregon. 937 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't think he would have left her anywhere except 938 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 2: for maybe Alabama and Miami one hundred percent short. 939 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 3: So I'll step in and say hashtag Alabama for Miami. Yeah, 940 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 3: but I do want to say hashtag NOTDL journalists. We're 941 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 3: painting everybody with the same brun brush. There, Eli Matt 942 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 3: Rule quote, This is not a jumping off job. This 943 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 3: is a destination job. This is one of the greatest 944 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 3: places in the world. I refuse to be distracted. That 945 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,240 Speaker 3: is Matt Rule talking to Pat McAfee. 946 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: Wrong. Wrong. 947 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: You know what Matt Rule said that like because because 948 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 2: that wasn't even the whole quote. 949 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: He was just like, listen, this place should be a 950 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: beast and all of this. You know what he didn't say. 951 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: He didn't say, no, I'm not leaving. 952 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 2: He wants he either wants a raise or he wants 953 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 2: to PennState job. 954 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: One of the two. 955 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: There's a reason why he's saying no, And there's a 956 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 2: reason why his quarterback Dylan Ryola is he ain't going nowhere. 957 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: If he ain't going nowhere, then why not say it? 958 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: Matt rule, say the words. 959 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 2: Don't say the words two weeks from now, right before 960 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 2: they announce who the head coaching job is going to. 961 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: No say it, say it now, if you. 962 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 3: All right? Alex Golish quote this is at USF. Quote. 963 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm never in my career outside of here chase the 964 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 3: job ever, and I don't intend to. I can promise 965 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 3: you I'm not talking to anybody. Some people will call 966 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: BS on it, and that's fine. Reis They're wrong Alex 967 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 3: Golish's response to UH to the coaching Carouselister. 968 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 2: I do not because I give all I give every 969 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: single G five coach of pass on. 970 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: You can. 971 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 2: You can BS your way through this whole thing. I don't, 972 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 2: because you know, there's a big difference in making you know, 973 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: one point five a year and making eight million dollars 974 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: a year and being at a power for a school. 975 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 2: I am not listen, Alex Goldish, you are one hundred percent, reister, buddy. 976 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 2: I know USF is a really good job and all 977 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 2: those things, but and he might be making closer you know, 978 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: two and a half and maybe but not too much 979 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 2: more than that, if so, And he doesn't know whether 980 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: he's a candidate or not, Like he may not be 981 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: the top guy that they're gonna look at at, you know, 982 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,439 Speaker 2: at some of these schools, and granted, just because you're 983 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 2: not the top guy doesn't mean that you're not the 984 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 2: right guy. So I listen, he could say anything, he'd 985 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 2: be like, listen, I'm not leaving us LF, and then 986 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: he leaves. I wouldn't even fall to them. He's trying 987 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: to keep his season together. They are ranked now, they 988 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 2: might go to the college football playoffs. He might not 989 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 2: get one of these jobs or want the one that's 990 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 2: offered to him, and he might be like, I'm gonna 991 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 2: stay over here. So he's got to keep his group together. 992 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 2: He's got to keep his team together, and he's got 993 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: to keep people foolishly believing that he's not leaving, that 994 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: he's willing to stay there and turn down other jobs 995 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 2: and turn that in a powerhouse. 996 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 3: The last one I got for you is a long one, 997 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 3: and he took some criticism for it, and I'll read 998 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 3: you his quote that he took criticism for it, and 999 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 3: then his follow up quote, this is Fran Brown at Syracuse. 1000 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm working at Syracuse right now, so I really don't 1001 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 3: need to talk about that. If this wasn't where I 1002 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 3: wanted to be in the moment, would I be standing 1003 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 3: here at this moment. Yeah, So I'm just focused on that. 1004 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm focused on being here. I'm locked in on coaching 1005 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 3: the players that I have here. This is where I 1006 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 3: work at. I think that it's disrespectful to even bring 1007 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 3: up and ask that, Like, what is the point in 1008 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: asking that to make some media of me saying something opposite. 1009 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 3: They hired me to come here and do a job 1010 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 3: and coach this team, and that's what I'm doing. His 1011 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 3: follow up was on his own podcast, he said, how 1012 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 3: are you telling me my job isn't a big time job? 1013 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: It's Fran Brown reister wrong for this response. 1014 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 2: He's one rister because he's probably gonna be paying State's 1015 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: new head head coach that if if I had my 1016 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: my doing. Dude, that sounds exactly like Willy Tagger at 1017 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Oregon when they when they asked him, Yo, are you 1018 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 2: gonna are you gonna take the Florida Florida State job 1019 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: or are you committed to being at at at Oregon. 1020 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Why would I not be. 1021 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: WILLI Tagger? WILLI Tagger did the ultimate like when people say, 1022 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 3: b where your feet are? I mean he technically was yeah, 1023 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: in Tyler Shuck's backyard, trying to recruit him to Oregon 1024 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 3: on the phone, getting in a private jet to Tallahassee. 1025 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, So this reminds me of something that my 1026 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 2: that Denisia, who if you don't know, is my wife. 1027 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 2: She would always, you know, like, hit the oblique obligatory, dude, due, 1028 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 2: you really love me? 1029 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Do you love me? 1030 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 2: I like, and my response would be a lot of 1031 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 2: a lot of times, I'm I'm I'm here, Anna. That 1032 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 2: would be my response. And then I figured out that 1033 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 2: wasn't a good response, like I'm here Anna, and my 1034 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 2: point so I would say, I'm here, Anna, I'm never 1035 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 2: anywhere I don't want to be. And then and then 1036 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,959 Speaker 2: I thought about it. I do go places I don't 1037 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 2: want to be sometimes because because I have to be 1038 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 2: so and I'm like and so that hit me and 1039 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: I was like, no, babe, I do love it. I 1040 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: choose and then I re rephrased it because I was like, 1041 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 2: I want to be here. I choose to be here 1042 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 2: every single day because this is where I want to be, like, 1043 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 2: I love you because I choose to love you every 1044 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 2: single day, and I don't want to be anywhere else 1045 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 2: otherwise I would be and I don't want to be 1046 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: in there like I But I say it in a 1047 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 2: way that now it's like you know, Dan Dan Landing style? 1048 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Intead? 1049 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, have you tried yes? Have you tried the word yes? 1050 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 3: All right, before we get in any more trouble, what 1051 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 3: are we looking forward to this weekend? 1052 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: He said? Have you tried the word yes? 1053 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 2: That that that would be a lot more simple, right, Yeah, Yes, 1054 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to how Matt rules team plays against Minnesota, 1055 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: how Nebraska plays against Minnesota on Friday. If they laid 1056 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 2: down and Minnesota beats Nebraska, oh you might be looking 1057 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 2: at your new pen pens, they head coach, because as 1058 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 2: soon as the team's play starts being impacted, you know 1059 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 2: what's up. I am interested in this Vanderbilt LSU game. 1060 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 2: I think Vanderbilt who's favored over When is the last 1061 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 2: time that Vanderbilt was favored over Lsu? 1062 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Never? 1063 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe? Never? Do dude? 1064 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: They have not been favored over an SEC opponent in 1065 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 2: any book since twenty eighteen, and some people are reporting 1066 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 2: since like the seventies. So uh so I'm interested in 1067 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: that game. I am, Oh my god, I don't even 1068 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 2: want to know what Indiana is gonna do to Michigan State. 1069 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 2: And now that Kurt Signetti has re upped, I want 1070 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 2: to see Texas Tech versus Areas on a state how 1071 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,479 Speaker 2: that turns out. And but most the thing I'm looking 1072 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: forward to the most is the outcome of this USC 1073 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame game. 1074 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 3: What do you think it means for either side? 1075 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 2: USC It's validation we are, we are back, we are physical, 1076 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 2: we are all of these things. For Notre Dame, I 1077 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 2: think it's just like, yeah, no, we're going to the 1078 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. And so I think that this game 1079 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,919 Speaker 2: means way more to USC than it does Notre Dame 1080 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 2: because Notre Dame was in the College Football Playoff last year, 1081 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 2: they were in the National Championship. They know who they are, 1082 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 2: they believe who they are. USC is still questioning. Their 1083 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 2: fans are still questioning because they were questioned after the 1084 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Illinois game on their message board. So you can't tell 1085 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 2: me that they're that the team ain't then Lincoln at 1086 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 2: this game means more for USC than it does for 1087 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. 1088 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 3: That makes sense. I am looking forward to a rematch 1089 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 3: of College Football Playoff or of the ACC Championship. Two 1090 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 3: teams that made the College Football Playoff and nobody's talking 1091 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 3: about it all SMU and Clemson. I think this is 1092 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 3: a pretty important game. I know RTT Lashley has been 1093 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 3: linked to some jobs, and I know that Damo Swing 1094 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 3: he's going through it. The winner of this game, aim. 1095 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 3: I think five and two for SMU means we still 1096 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 3: have a shot. I think that three and four for 1097 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 3: Clemson is a pretty hard reset potentially, So I think 1098 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 3: that's a that's a really really important one. And then 1099 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: the other thing that I'm really looking forward to is 1100 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 3: earlier this year, Johnny Manziel was on I think maybe 1101 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 3: his own show, talking and he said, there's nobody really 1102 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 3: like him this year, like no real like flashy, exciting guy. 1103 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss has opportunity. He is, he was, he he 1104 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: kind of plays like Johnny Manziel and if you look 1105 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 3: at just the you know, I know he's older than 1106 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel was, but certainly not an experience right. He 1107 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 3: had one year as a starter at Fairs State he 1108 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 3: was even sharing time a little bit last year. At 1109 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 3: this time, he's playing in front of four thousand people, yes, 1110 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 3: against Michigan Tech, playing in front of everybody. Yeah, and 1111 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: he's gonna be at Georgia. So you think about it, 1112 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 3: what was the Manzel moment and the Manzel moment that 1113 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: really kicked off? You know, Johnny football Mania was going 1114 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 3: to Alabama when they were nine to oh and winning, 1115 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 3: And I think that winning in Georgia at Georgia playing 1116 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 3: the type of football that he's been playing with college 1117 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: game day, there could be the Manzel moment for Trinidad Chamblis. 1118 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 3: Now he could fail that test and we could be 1119 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 3: talking about Georgia being six and one and on their 1120 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 3: way to the college football playoffs. Sure, I don't think 1121 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 3: it's going to hurt Ole Miss all that much. But 1122 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 3: right now Ole Miss has the opportunity to go seven 1123 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 3: to zero for the second time under Lane Kiffin. Last 1124 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 3: time the wheels fell off, But they have a chance 1125 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 3: to do it at Georgia with a backup quarterback who 1126 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. Is one of the best stories 1127 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 3: in all of college football, and he actually is exciting. 1128 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 3: He does throw on the run, he is everything you 1129 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 3: want to see in a college football player. And yeah, 1130 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 3: he's got an awesome opportunity in Athens this weekend. 1131 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're excited. 1132 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 2: You guys, make sure that you'd like subscribe, get notifications, 1133 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 2: tele a frame, peace out, Catch you guys later