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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. There

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Speaker 1: are three critical headlines. Trump has now convinced me he

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Speaker 1: is sick the way President Woodrow Wilson was sick. And

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Speaker 1: the Tuesday Circle Jerk cabinet meeting was another one where

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Speaker 1: cabinet members were probably warned praise him today because he

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Speaker 1: may not recognize you tomorrow. Secondly, with his nauseating attack

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Speaker 1: accept any debate on this point. Donald Trump is a

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Speaker 1: full on white supremacist, a racist bastard who is no

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Speaker 1: longer hiding it, who cannot hide it anymore, who is

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Speaker 1: is all pouring out now, and thus who cannot continue

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Speaker 1: as president. The hood is off. And Thirdly, it is

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Speaker 1: increasingly obvious that the Democrats must have put out the

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Speaker 1: do not Obey Illegal Orders video when they did, because

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Speaker 1: there is a chain of evidence that has come to

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Speaker 1: light suggesting that the September two kill the boat Survivor's

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Speaker 1: order from the Secretary of War Crimes that was an

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Speaker 1: illegal order, right, okay, Anosognosia. First, that's what Woodrow Wilson had,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I have gone on about at least

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Speaker 1: five times since twenty sixteen. I hope I am not

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Speaker 1: boring you. It is what Woodrow Wilson had when as

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Speaker 1: part of the strokes he suffered in Off he could

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Speaker 1: not accept He literally could not his brain could not

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Speaker 1: process the idea that he had any significant physical damage

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Speaker 1: to his brain. That is, the disease that is part

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Speaker 1: of the damage to the brain after some strokes. Trump

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Speaker 1: showed it at least three different times this week, most

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Speaker 1: harrowingly at that cabinet meeting Tuesday, first, with the makeup

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Speaker 1: we saw while he fell asleep ten times, while he

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Speaker 1: retained consciousness only when his name was mentioned. While he

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Speaker 1: was boasting about acing that test that if you fail,

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Speaker 1: not the boasting. It is in a painful truth. It

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Speaker 1: is that he is as sincere and earnest about this

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Speaker 1: goddamned test as anything he's ever talked about in his life.

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Speaker 1: He really believes the test they gave him was for

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Speaker 1: admission to MENSA, just like he really believes the MRI

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Speaker 1: does not have to be for a specific body part.

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Speaker 1: He really believes this because he has the disease that

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Speaker 1: keeps you from processing that something is physically wrong with

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Speaker 1: your brain. That is anosagnosia. They have told him what

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Speaker 1: he is wrong with him. They have showed him. They

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Speaker 1: may have showed him the MRIs. They have given him

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Speaker 1: the tests and told him why, and his mind has

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Speaker 1: why he is so convinced these other nonsensical explanations must

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Speaker 1: be the truth. And this is also anopsagnosia. There is

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Speaker 1: no way anybody who has ever had an MRI has

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Speaker 1: not known what part of the body the MRI was of,

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Speaker 1: mean if you have an MRI on a bone in

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Speaker 1: Like everybody who's ever had an MRI only had to

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Speaker 1: what part of the body it was. Our president has

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Speaker 1: significant damage to his brain. He unintentionally confesses to it

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Speaker 1: to himself that, of course he doesn't know what part

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Speaker 1: You do forget for a moment the insults in there.

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Speaker 1: It is the certitude, the confidence, the absolute, unshakable conviction

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Speaker 1: one more time. Following his stroke, the outstanding feature of

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Speaker 1: the president's behavior was his denial of his incapacity. The

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Speaker 1: neuropsychiatrist Edward Weinstein, who half a century ago was granted

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Speaker 1: Quoting again to casual observers, anosagnosiac patients may appear quite

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Speaker 1: and Grayson's meticulous notes include what Wilson told him word

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Speaker 1: President and Anosagnosiac, speaking in a raspy whisper, said quote,

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Speaker 1: in the hell he can. They told Trump what his

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Speaker 1: They told him about every other test they've given him

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Speaker 1: these things would have been proof to him. A brain

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Speaker 1: hood is off. After yesterday. The hood is off after

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Speaker 1: the somalis It is not only nauseating, It is not

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Speaker 1: only confirmation of every allegation of racism against Trump since

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Speaker 1: he and his goddamned father kept blacks out of their

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Speaker 1: mental illness. At the same time, the scumbag Nick Fuentes

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Speaker 1: Somalis in Minnesota, that his racist rant precipitated Trump's racist rant.

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Speaker 1: Only Fuentes is a scumbag with a microphone and a tie.

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Speaker 1: Trump is president and he cannot continue to be one

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Speaker 1: talking about Americans like this, putting bull's eyes on Americans

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Speaker 1: like this, using the R word about the governor of Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: generally setting new highs in low even for him. It

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Speaker 1: is one thing to hate mindlessly, Lord knows, we've probably

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Speaker 1: mindlessly in this country or someone. But it is another

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Speaker 1: to hate mindlessly out loud. It is no longer societal

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Speaker 1: guardrails that have broken and failed here. It is the

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Speaker 1: saying things that would make his own people run for

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Speaker 1: guardrails are now broken too flatly. Listen to this and

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Speaker 1: you answer my question. Is the voice you hear coming

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Speaker 2: These Somalians have taken billions of dollars out of our country.

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Speaker 2: They've taken billions and billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: They have a.

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Speaker 2: Representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother as

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Speaker 2: a fraud. She tries to deny it now, but you

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Speaker 2: can't really deny it because you just happened. She should

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Speaker 2: They have destroyed Minnesota, Minnesota, you have an incompetent governor.

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Speaker 2: You have a crooked Governor's crooked is hell but he's incompetent, Waltz.

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Speaker 2: He should be ashamed. That beautiful land, that beautiful state.

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Speaker 2: It's a hellhole right now. And the Somalians should be

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Speaker 2: to be the worst country on Earth. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been there. I won't be there anytime soon,

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Speaker 2: I hope. But Somalia, what the Somalian people have done

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Speaker 2: And a lot of it starts with the governor. A

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Speaker 2: lot of us starts with Barack Hussein Obama.

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Speaker 1: F you, pal, f you and everybody who supports you.

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Speaker 1: Barack Hussein Obama can't resist it. Total unmitigated racism, white

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Speaker 1: supremacy from like all other white supremacists, white trash Donald,

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Speaker 1: white trash Trump. It is funny he has this white

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Speaker 1: trash reflex about people of color. Woodrow Wilson had that too,

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Speaker 1: series of strokes Woodrow Wilson had, By the way, when

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Speaker 1: this ends and Trump is gone institutionalized living under twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven observations somewhere who knows and Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 1: all on trial for obeying Trump's illegal orders. This incidentally

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Speaker 1: will be their defense. But the president was till the incompetent.

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Speaker 1: But they were, as members of his cabinet, legally obligated

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Speaker 1: like they could just ignore him without risking being prosecuted

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Speaker 1: by him. And that's one of the reasons they were

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Speaker 1: all of them clearly egging Trump to keep suggesting sedition

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Speaker 1: heard the word anosognosia or not, I mean, imagine Patel

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Speaker 1: trying to say annosagnosia. They know, hell, They've probably have

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Speaker 1: Because no one on this earth mattered to Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: when he wasn't crazy. No one matters. The only time

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Speaker 1: Hegseth and all who serve them. And they can go

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Speaker 1: us are headed if we do not swerve away from

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Speaker 1: this cult worshiping stupidity masquerading as a government. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: could read this. You heard it as one long part.

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Speaker 1: pretty long. Speaking of way too long a script, turns

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Speaker 1: out Ryan Lizza has written as many as eight different

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Speaker 1: volumes of Living with Livy or Oh Olivia, or Stop

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Speaker 1: Trying to make Felch Happen. Turns out we are at

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Speaker 1: volume four of the newsy Liza Ozzid Odyssey plus one document,

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Speaker 1: the odyssey that's also known as War and Peace, and

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Speaker 1: I have notes about the cliffhanger that implied that she

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Speaker 1: might have suppressed information or RFK might have suppressed information

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Speaker 1: about the Trump assassination attempt, and also notes about that

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Speaker 1: much more serious, much more disturbing reality eight eight articles.

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Speaker 1: So the next ken Burns documentary is going to be

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Speaker 1: a sixteen hour, ten parter about her. Also, it hasn't

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Speaker 1: gotten any play, but it appears that she's out of

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Speaker 1: work at the end of this month. She will not

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Speaker 1: be with Vanity Fair on January first of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Now worse persons. Bill Maher won again, many Shack That'll

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Speaker 1: be first. Then at the end of the show the

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Speaker 1: last thing. Olivia again, that's next. This is Countdown. This

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Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this whole

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Speaker 1: new edition of Countdown. Well, the word is there could

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Speaker 1: be eight chapters, all told to Ryan Lizza and the

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Speaker 1: Scissa he's taken to Olivia Newsy's career. I have some

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Speaker 1: notes notes on chapter three. I will do it at

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Speaker 1: show's end first, believe it or not, there's still more

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Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. The roundup of the mis grants,

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Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's other

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Speaker 1: worse person's world. The moron's worse The Department of Labor.

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Speaker 1: It put out a tweet reading the fight for Western

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Speaker 1: civilization has begun and Americanism will prevail the fight for

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Speaker 1: Western civilizations. The message is weird enough. This is the

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Speaker 1: Department of Labor. Like in guaranteeing sick days and making

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Speaker 1: sure if your employer is responsible for your arm getting

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Speaker 1: cut off at work, your employer can't just say tough,

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Speaker 1: here's a bill for the cleanup, and the Department of

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Speaker 1: Labor is doing this nativist Nazi stuff for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Well worse, they've got that tagline Americanism will Prevail. It's

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Speaker 1: written over a picture of lincoln statue at the Lincoln Memorial.

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Speaker 1: There are two graphic decisions of note here. First, they

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Speaker 1: have got Lincoln's head in their meme if you will,

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Speaker 1: ringed by eleven stars, eleven stars in a circle in

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Speaker 1: a kind of laural wreath delio around his head, which

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Speaker 1: is really odd because that logo eleven stars in a circle,

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Speaker 1: that's what's on the blue field in the upper left

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Speaker 1: hand corner of the flag of the Confederate States of America.

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Speaker 1: So you're combining Lincoln and the traders he defeated and

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Speaker 1: the traders who assassinated him. It's a choice. But then

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Speaker 1: there's the lettering they used the font for the Americanism

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Speaker 1: will Prevail. It's what it might be Antiqua, and it

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Speaker 1: might be fractor, and it might be one of the

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Speaker 1: Gothic Germanic fonts, but one way or the other, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a Nazi font. It's one of the fonts the

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Speaker 1: Nazis used for all of their publications. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the family of fonts. On the cover of mindcomf nobody's

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Speaker 1: being unfair here, nobody's reading anything into this. It's the

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Speaker 1: Nazi font so Americanism for preveil. If we let Lincoln

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Speaker 1: be taken over by the Confederacy and we spell it

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Speaker 1: all out in Hitler type, I'm never just going to

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Speaker 1: say I told you so. But they runner up worser

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss of CBS News, adding to that theory that

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Speaker 1: she has been hired to make sure CBS News goes

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Speaker 1: out of business as quickly as possible, and she's the

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Speaker 1: one who takes the blame for that. This is just

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Speaker 1: not a bright person. More importantly, this is a person

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Speaker 1: on the fringes of American discourse who thinks they are

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Speaker 1: at its center. This is somebody's wearing not eyeglasses, but

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Speaker 1: you know those telescopes through which she looks at the

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Speaker 1: wrong end. Early last month, Barry Weiss addressed a leadership

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Speaker 1: conference in New York, and the video went viral last weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's it's, it's this is what she wants for her

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Speaker 1: new CBS News. She wants less Nick Fouentes and Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson on her CBS News. She wants the middle forty

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Speaker 1: yards of American discourse, whatever the hell that means. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Nick Flouentes and Tucker Carlson aren't on CBS. This reminds

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Speaker 1: me of the guy I've often mentioned here, Rick Kaplan,

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Speaker 1: who was president of MSNBC for two years without having

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Speaker 1: cable for the first year, and then in the second

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Speaker 1: year he didn't know what DVR was, so he used

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Speaker 1: to tell us about things that wasn't part of the show,

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Speaker 1: or that we would mention things that were changed a

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Speaker 1: year previously, and he hadn't because he didn't have cable.

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Speaker 1: This is who Barry Weiss is. I know we should

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Speaker 1: get less Nick Fuentes on CBS. You don't have Nick.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not that bad yet. All right, there's more

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Speaker 1: I'm reading now from Oliver Darcy in Status Why, said

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Speaker 1: she wants to position CBS News to appeal to viewers

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Speaker 1: on both the center right and center left, describing her

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Speaker 1: approach as redrawing the lines of what falls in the

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Speaker 1: forty yard lines of acceptable debate. As an example of

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Speaker 1: that discourse, she pointed to a recent debate hosted by

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Speaker 1: The Free Press between Alan Dershowitz and Dana lash, saying

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Speaker 1: it showed that people that have wildly different opinions can

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Speaker 1: have good faith, very passionate, very charismatic disagreements and still

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Speaker 1: like each other at the end of the day. Wait

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Speaker 1: who had the wildly different opinions, Alan Dershowitz and Dana Lash.

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Speaker 1: I mean that Dana Lash could just be Alan Dershowitz

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Speaker 1: in a wig. My god. Also, I didn't know Dana

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Speaker 1: Lash was still alive. I'm not. I mean that's an

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Speaker 1: old joke. I didn't know they were still alive. I

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Speaker 1: really hadn't heard her name in like five years. And

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Speaker 1: I was not disappointed by this fact, as you may

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Speaker 1: be able to tell. But Barry Weiss thinks that this

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Speaker 1: is Those are the forty yard lines of America. Alan Dershowitz,

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Speaker 1: who is hated by almost everybody except people like Dana Lash,

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Speaker 1: and Dana Lash, who is hated by almost everybody except

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Speaker 1: people like Alan Dershowitz. This is the CBS Evening News

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Speaker 1: with Alan Dershowitz tonight, Part one hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 1: of our Eye in America investigative series on mister Dershowitz

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Speaker 1: being shunned on Martha's Vineyard for defending Trump, and Part

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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy four of mister Dershowitz's series about

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Speaker 1: age of consent laws unfairly make criminals out of millions

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Speaker 1: of those who are really just healthy and Steve Hartman

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Speaker 1: on the road Alan Dershowitz but very charismatic. Disagree. She

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Speaker 1: called Alan Dershowitz very charismatic. That's the word that comes

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Speaker 1: to my mind about him too. You know, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: see these right wing flavors of the month, like Barry Weiss,

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Speaker 1: and you get it. You say, well, there's skills. I

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Speaker 1: hate Tucker Carlson, I hate Bill O'Reilly. I hope I

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Speaker 1: always will. But twenty years ago I was not denying

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Speaker 1: that each had certain almost unmatchable TV skills. But this

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss is an idiot. She's just detached. It's like

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Speaker 1: a D plus and get there is still somebody worse

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Speaker 1: our winner, Bill Maher. I get asked a lot about

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Speaker 1: why Bill is killing himself professionally, and especially why he's

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Speaker 1: killing himself so so slowly, and I can only suggest

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Speaker 1: that he's always been a weather vane, so this is

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Speaker 1: not a total shock, and that his company is run

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Speaker 1: by the guy who killed CNN. David Zaslav of Warner Bros. Discovery,

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Speaker 1: and it may soon be sold to the Ellisons, meaning

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Speaker 1: that Bill Maher's show may soon be owned by Barry Weiss.

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Speaker 1: That might explain why he's doing this and so repeatedly

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Speaker 1: and so slowly. Well, he does a podcast and his

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Speaker 1: podcast episode, his latest one is with Lara Trump because

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Speaker 1: it had already done Cheryl Hines and Jillian Michaels and

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Speaker 1: Tim Poole. As usual, a group of mar quotes from

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Speaker 1: his own podcast is all you need to know where

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Speaker 1: Bill stands. Let's put it this way. Dana Lash and

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Speaker 1: Alan Durserwitz are actually closer to the forty yard line

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Speaker 1: of American whatever, by the way, in these quot but

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Speaker 1: you will notice Bill is still complaining about stuff from

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Speaker 1: last spring, about his dinner with Adolph I mean Trump,

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Speaker 1: of course. And I don't get any corner to the

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Speaker 1: leftists to just constantly downgrade America to another reason why

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Speaker 1: they hate me. I mean this is what I said

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Speaker 1: to him, your father in law in the text, father

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Speaker 1: in law being Trump. It's like, you know, if I'm

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Speaker 1: so captured by the lunatic left, why do they hate

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Speaker 1: me too? Listen, pal, You're not captured by the lunatic left.

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Speaker 1: I hate to break this to you, but if you

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Speaker 1: have not been paying attention, and I've seen the show

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Speaker 1: since the ABC Show a quarter of a century ago,

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Speaker 1: you're not paying attention. The entirety of the United States,

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Speaker 1: including most conservatives, have moved to the left of you.

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Speaker 1: They've continued to grow while you seem to be getting shorter.

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Speaker 1: You're not captured by the lunatic left. We repudiated you

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Speaker 1: at least five years ago. Maybe you didn't look away

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Speaker 1: from your mirror long enough to notice this. Mar also

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Speaker 1: says his fans are people in the middle who just

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Speaker 1: have had enough of people in their bubbles. You know,

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Speaker 1: I find it very frustrating that I cannot get the

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Speaker 1: full story anywhere in the old media. It's very I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love the New Free Press. My girl Barry Weiss,

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Speaker 1: who started that, now she runs CBS. You know you're

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Speaker 1: seeing a change there that's more fair. Holy efing f,

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, holyfing f. This is the CBS Evening

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Speaker 1: News with Alan Dershowitz and Bill Maher and part three

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four of mister Marr's series on why

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Speaker 1: mister Dershowitz is being shunned over age of consent laws

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Speaker 1: and Steve Hartman on the road. By the way, Bill's

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Speaker 1: remarks about CBS becoming more fair under Barry Weiss, Lara

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Speaker 1: Trump read, I think that's very positive, she said, despite

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Speaker 1: having plastic lips and rule one. Bill Maher, If Lara

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Speaker 1: Trump agrees with you, you have just made a terrible, terrible mistake.

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Speaker 1: Mar then said, I mean, I've been very tough on

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Speaker 1: the media and the biases is and I cry no tears.

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Speaker 1: We're losing NPR and PBS. Bill didn't get that memo either.

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Speaker 1: We're not losing NPR PBS, They're just not getting funding

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Speaker 1: from the Trump regime. And once again, at this point,

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Speaker 1: at this juncture, Lara Trump jumped in with something compelling

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Speaker 1: and intelligence to say, after I cry no tears, we're

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Speaker 1: losing NPR and PBS, she said, quote, yeah, don't cry

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Speaker 1: any tears over then I don't, Bill rejoindered, adding I

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Speaker 1: don't know why you need the Kennedy Center. Then Larry

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Speaker 1: Trump asked Bill a question, do you like the independent

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Speaker 1: journalists in the pressroom? Man? Does that mean? He answered,

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Speaker 1: that means your press room. Bill Maher honestly did not

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Speaker 1: know that Trump has now packed the White House press

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Speaker 1: room with propagandists from ultra right, trumpist sits ringers, frauds,

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Speaker 1: liars who they call independent journalists, which actually just means

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Speaker 1: independent of journalism. And then finally mar got back to

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Speaker 1: his favorite topic. Don't put it in the paper that

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Speaker 1: I'm mad. No, no, do put it in the paper.

636
00:44:46,395 --> 00:44:52,915
Speaker 1: I'm mad mad still about Larry David, about Larry's vivisection

637
00:44:52,995 --> 00:44:56,795
Speaker 1: of Mar for dining with Trump. The New York Times

638
00:44:56,835 --> 00:45:02,195
Speaker 1: article My dinner with Adolph, which was on April twenty first,

639
00:45:03,475 --> 00:45:07,475
Speaker 1: which is like last April for those of you who've

640
00:45:07,515 --> 00:45:13,075
Speaker 1: never used a calendar, last April. I mean, I don't

641
00:45:13,075 --> 00:45:17,155
Speaker 1: even keep my own wounds open that long, Bill, And

642
00:45:17,155 --> 00:45:20,155
Speaker 1: it's just so childish, so purely emotional that people got

643
00:45:20,155 --> 00:45:23,155
Speaker 1: all butt hurt because I had dinner with him, you know,

644
00:45:23,275 --> 00:45:27,355
Speaker 1: because he's Hitler, except he's not so unhelpful and dumb.

645
00:45:27,555 --> 00:45:30,635
Speaker 1: Trump is the most supportive president Israel and the Jews

646
00:45:30,715 --> 00:45:34,715
Speaker 1: ever had no Bill said that he was not quoting

647
00:45:34,755 --> 00:45:38,555
Speaker 1: Mike Huckabee or one of the pastors, one of Trump's

648
00:45:38,595 --> 00:45:44,475
Speaker 1: pastors who's just arrested for child molestation. So Bill, you

649
00:45:44,515 --> 00:45:47,235
Speaker 1: think that's the only comparison. And just to be clear,

650
00:45:47,395 --> 00:45:56,195
Speaker 1: one of the Trumpian religious advisors was arrested for child molestation. So, Bill,

651
00:45:57,315 --> 00:46:01,395
Speaker 1: you think the only comparison between Hitler and Trump was

652
00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:06,715
Speaker 1: respective attitudes towards Israel. The rest of it, I mean,

653
00:46:06,795 --> 00:46:12,675
Speaker 1: the non denominational part, the rest of the suppression of

654
00:46:12,755 --> 00:46:16,235
Speaker 1: human rights and the marginalizing of minorities of all kinds,

655
00:46:16,275 --> 00:46:19,795
Speaker 1: and you know, disappearing people off the streets and leading

656
00:46:19,795 --> 00:46:22,555
Speaker 1: to their deaths, and the erasure of the constitution and

657
00:46:23,795 --> 00:46:27,315
Speaker 1: laws by FIAT, and the growing insanity of the man

658
00:46:27,395 --> 00:46:34,595
Speaker 1: in charge. So you just think this is about the specifics.

659
00:46:35,795 --> 00:46:37,875
Speaker 1: Would it be all right then if Larry's article about

660
00:46:37,915 --> 00:46:42,235
Speaker 1: you had been my dinner with Stalin. Bill is still

661
00:46:42,275 --> 00:46:45,595
Speaker 1: complaining about this every year. I used to ask Larry

662
00:46:45,715 --> 00:46:48,155
Speaker 1: David to do Real Time and he'd always say, Bill,

663
00:46:48,195 --> 00:46:51,315
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not smart enough about politics to do

664
00:46:51,355 --> 00:46:58,675
Speaker 1: your show. Yeah, I get that. Now, Bill, I'm gonna

665
00:46:59,155 --> 00:47:02,635
Speaker 1: I'm going to literally stop the music for just a

666
00:47:02,675 --> 00:47:06,475
Speaker 1: second because I want to break something to you, and

667
00:47:06,515 --> 00:47:09,315
Speaker 1: I want you to listen carefully, because I know this

668
00:47:09,435 --> 00:47:12,235
Speaker 1: is going to shock you, because it clearly has not

669
00:47:12,315 --> 00:47:16,115
Speaker 1: previously occurred to you. I've never talked to Larry David

670
00:47:16,155 --> 00:47:20,955
Speaker 1: about this, so I could be mistaken, but I've been

671
00:47:20,995 --> 00:47:25,795
Speaker 1: talking to him about politics for fifteen years now longer,

672
00:47:26,795 --> 00:47:29,435
Speaker 1: and he's very bright about politics. I mean, he is

673
00:47:29,675 --> 00:47:32,995
Speaker 1: one of the announcers on this podcast. I don't have

674
00:47:33,075 --> 00:47:36,435
Speaker 1: him come in and do commentaries here, but that's kind of

675
00:47:36,475 --> 00:47:39,035
Speaker 1: an endorsement of the pink the point of view here,

676
00:47:39,075 --> 00:47:44,075
Speaker 1: at least of me. Now, this is just me saying this,

677
00:47:45,955 --> 00:47:49,555
Speaker 1: But if Larry won't go on your show when he

678
00:47:49,635 --> 00:47:53,275
Speaker 1: tells you I'm not smart enough about politics to do

679
00:47:53,395 --> 00:47:58,355
Speaker 1: your show, I'm Bill. I'm going to go way out

680
00:47:58,435 --> 00:48:02,195
Speaker 1: on a limb and suggest that for however many years

681
00:48:02,435 --> 00:48:06,115
Speaker 1: he's been telling you went enough about politics to do

682
00:48:06,155 --> 00:48:09,195
Speaker 1: your show. As long as he's been saying that, Larry's

683
00:48:09,275 --> 00:48:14,915
Speaker 1: just been being polite to you. He was trying to

684
00:48:14,955 --> 00:48:18,035
Speaker 1: not hurt your feelings. And then you had to go

685
00:48:18,195 --> 00:48:22,995
Speaker 1: and spoil it all by having dinner with Well, having

686
00:48:23,035 --> 00:48:27,195
Speaker 1: dinner with our Hitler, Bill and talk about how nice

687
00:48:27,475 --> 00:48:33,835
Speaker 1: Hitler sorry Trump was to you. Bill. See, the real

688
00:48:33,955 --> 00:48:39,435
Speaker 1: problem is, Bill, Bill, You're not smart enough about politics

689
00:48:39,435 --> 00:48:46,195
Speaker 1: to do your show. Mar Today's other worst par said

690
00:48:47,035 --> 00:49:18,315
Speaker 1: in the world struggling to the finish line with postscripts

691
00:49:18,355 --> 00:49:26,955
Speaker 1: to the news, some headlines, some updates, some snark. This

692
00:49:26,995 --> 00:49:30,395
Speaker 1: is the Countdown podcast and these are the places where

693
00:49:30,435 --> 00:49:35,475
Speaker 1: there's news. Dateline Boca Raton, Florida. We'll get to Newsy

694
00:49:35,555 --> 00:49:38,515
Speaker 1: in a moment, but this is important. I was shocked

695
00:49:38,635 --> 00:49:41,275
Speaker 1: to learn the other night of the death of Steve Pickman.

696
00:49:42,035 --> 00:49:44,555
Speaker 1: I knew Steve Pickman for a very brief time, a

697
00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:46,995
Speaker 1: very long time ago, and he was only fifty six

698
00:49:47,075 --> 00:49:49,595
Speaker 1: years old. And it's really unlikely that you knew him,

699
00:49:50,195 --> 00:49:53,955
Speaker 1: although maybe you knew him by his stage name Sarge,

700
00:49:54,795 --> 00:49:58,715
Speaker 1: comedian named Sarge. He was also a talent rep for

701
00:49:58,755 --> 00:50:01,075
Speaker 1: a while, a Fox Sports figure in the early days

702
00:50:01,115 --> 00:50:04,635
Speaker 1: of this century, a sports radio host, a recovery advocate

703
00:50:05,315 --> 00:50:08,635
Speaker 1: and speaker, and a stand up comedian who worked last

704
00:50:08,715 --> 00:50:11,955
Speaker 1: week and was supposed to work next week. And he

705
00:50:12,075 --> 00:50:15,275
Speaker 1: died late last month and they haven't said what happened.

706
00:50:16,115 --> 00:50:18,675
Speaker 1: He was as talented a guy as I ever knew,

707
00:50:18,755 --> 00:50:22,155
Speaker 1: and when I knew him, he was a production assistant

708
00:50:22,835 --> 00:50:26,595
Speaker 1: on Sports Center at ESPN it was probably nineteen ninety five,

709
00:50:27,235 --> 00:50:29,795
Speaker 1: watching games and editing highlights in a room full of

710
00:50:29,835 --> 00:50:32,755
Speaker 1: dozens of other kids trying to break into the business

711
00:50:33,155 --> 00:50:39,195
Speaker 1: via Bristol's Screening Room, also known as the Black Hole

712
00:50:39,235 --> 00:50:43,995
Speaker 1: of Calcutta. One day, the phone at my desk rings

713
00:50:44,035 --> 00:50:48,195
Speaker 1: and it's Steve Pickman. He introduces himself. He introduces himself

714
00:50:48,235 --> 00:50:51,355
Speaker 1: and he asks if I am actually doing that night's

715
00:50:51,635 --> 00:50:55,755
Speaker 1: Oh Yankees Royals highlights because the show run down has

716
00:50:55,795 --> 00:50:58,155
Speaker 1: already changed a couple of times, and first it was

717
00:50:58,235 --> 00:51:00,955
Speaker 1: me doing the Yankees Royals, and then it said it

718
00:51:00,995 --> 00:51:03,395
Speaker 1: was Dan doing the Yankees Royals, and then it's me again,

719
00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:06,155
Speaker 1: And he wants to know, and he apologized for bothering

720
00:51:06,195 --> 00:51:08,675
Speaker 1: me if I knew if that was the final decision,

721
00:51:09,315 --> 00:51:12,755
Speaker 1: and I said, I thought so, But now I was curious.

722
00:51:13,475 --> 00:51:16,355
Speaker 1: No production assistant, and by this point had been there

723
00:51:16,435 --> 00:51:18,755
Speaker 1: three years. I've probably dealt with three hundred of them.

724
00:51:19,155 --> 00:51:22,635
Speaker 1: None had ever called about this. Why do you ask?

725
00:51:23,115 --> 00:51:26,075
Speaker 1: And then he began, well, a highlight package for you

726
00:51:26,155 --> 00:51:29,715
Speaker 1: was utterly different than one for Dan. You like different shots,

727
00:51:30,035 --> 00:51:34,515
Speaker 1: You like different lengths of shots, pacing, cutaways, replays, angles,

728
00:51:34,595 --> 00:51:37,035
Speaker 1: sound folds, guys in the stands. How often I show

729
00:51:37,075 --> 00:51:42,395
Speaker 1: the manager you, for instance, two minutes on this without

730
00:51:42,435 --> 00:51:44,795
Speaker 1: a breath about what I like to put in my highlights,

731
00:51:44,875 --> 00:51:48,755
Speaker 1: what I did well, what I responded well to. He

732
00:51:48,795 --> 00:51:51,315
Speaker 1: told me things about my own broadcasting habits that I

733
00:51:51,355 --> 00:51:54,675
Speaker 1: had never thought of before, let alone realize. And I

734
00:51:54,795 --> 00:51:57,075
Speaker 1: thanked him, and I said, if he had any more

735
00:51:57,115 --> 00:51:59,715
Speaker 1: insights like that, to please call him back. And I said,

736
00:51:59,755 --> 00:52:01,555
Speaker 1: I'd try to be subtle, but I would also try

737
00:52:01,555 --> 00:52:03,715
Speaker 1: to get him assigned to my highlights from that point on,

738
00:52:05,515 --> 00:52:07,875
Speaker 1: because he took more care with them than I did.

739
00:52:09,075 --> 00:52:11,395
Speaker 1: We talked a couple of times, but not often, not

740
00:52:11,555 --> 00:52:16,915
Speaker 1: like every day at ESPN. He was also a master impersonator,

741
00:52:16,955 --> 00:52:18,515
Speaker 1: and in those days when you could just pick up

742
00:52:18,555 --> 00:52:22,435
Speaker 1: the phone and page anybody at ESPN, usually it was

743
00:52:22,475 --> 00:52:25,955
Speaker 1: just something like Keith Alberman called two one four nine,

744
00:52:26,035 --> 00:52:29,595
Speaker 1: Keith Alberman two on four nine. When Steve was the

745
00:52:29,595 --> 00:52:32,435
Speaker 1: one doing the paging, he did it in their voice,

746
00:52:33,075 --> 00:52:37,315
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick two one five six, Dan two on five six,

747
00:52:38,435 --> 00:52:43,795
Speaker 1: go on, And unlike mine, Steve's impressions were perfect. I

748
00:52:43,835 --> 00:52:45,835
Speaker 1: told Steve once he was on the wrong side of

749
00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:49,435
Speaker 1: the equation, and he agreed. At ESPN agreed he was

750
00:52:49,475 --> 00:52:53,155
Speaker 1: the best production assistant they ever had. He cared about

751
00:52:53,195 --> 00:52:56,475
Speaker 1: every single highlight. He thought it wasn't much of a

752
00:52:56,515 --> 00:53:00,275
Speaker 1: creative expression, but it was his creative expression, and he

753
00:53:00,315 --> 00:53:03,475
Speaker 1: was going to do the best he could. This is

754
00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:07,195
Speaker 1: the simple element of genius, the one through line among

755
00:53:07,275 --> 00:53:10,555
Speaker 1: all people successful and many who are not. But the

756
00:53:10,595 --> 00:53:13,435
Speaker 1: thing that keeps you going is this conviction that it's

757
00:53:13,515 --> 00:53:19,435
Speaker 1: your work. Do it well. At the seven month mark,

758
00:53:19,515 --> 00:53:24,995
Speaker 1: when they decided if the Pas stayed or went in

759
00:53:25,075 --> 00:53:28,595
Speaker 1: the ESPN of the nineties, they could just say goodbye

760
00:53:29,195 --> 00:53:34,235
Speaker 1: or gone, and you were gone. He went. He stood

761
00:53:34,235 --> 00:53:36,915
Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb, not only his style but

762
00:53:36,995 --> 00:53:40,395
Speaker 1: his visual appearance. He just was different because he was

763
00:53:40,435 --> 00:53:42,955
Speaker 1: talented and he had ideas, and he called the talent

764
00:53:42,995 --> 00:53:46,155
Speaker 1: and asked them what they wanted in the highlights, and

765
00:53:46,275 --> 00:53:48,155
Speaker 1: off he went. I think if I have the timing

766
00:53:48,235 --> 00:53:52,315
Speaker 1: right to the Lee Strasbourg school, and he was serious

767
00:53:52,315 --> 00:53:55,475
Speaker 1: about everything. I saw Steve once later when he was

768
00:53:55,515 --> 00:53:57,555
Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff with Fox and with Baseball

769
00:53:57,595 --> 00:54:00,395
Speaker 1: and with comedy, and then How he Rose. The Mets

770
00:54:00,395 --> 00:54:02,675
Speaker 1: announcer tweeted out the link to his OH bit the

771
00:54:02,675 --> 00:54:06,875
Speaker 1: other night, how he loved Steve. They used to text

772
00:54:07,195 --> 00:54:11,435
Speaker 1: during how He's broadcasts. I've known Howie since nineteen seventy nine.

773
00:54:12,675 --> 00:54:18,355
Speaker 1: He's a little difficult to text during broadcasts anyway. I'm

774
00:54:18,355 --> 00:54:21,035
Speaker 1: not saying this is far up on his life accomplishments.

775
00:54:21,075 --> 00:54:23,715
Speaker 1: But I knew Steve Pickman for seven months thirty years ago,

776
00:54:24,235 --> 00:54:29,235
Speaker 1: and I had never forgotten him. Howie says Steve. Sarge

777
00:54:29,595 --> 00:54:32,995
Speaker 1: was in a great place in his life personally, professionally,

778
00:54:34,075 --> 00:54:39,075
Speaker 1: happy and content, but only fifty six. I'm glad he

779
00:54:39,115 --> 00:54:42,115
Speaker 1: was happy and content. A lot of us are not.

780
00:54:43,675 --> 00:54:45,475
Speaker 1: Some of us are not, and it's in the papers

781
00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:49,795
Speaker 1: every day. And he was as talented as anybody I've

782
00:54:49,795 --> 00:54:57,955
Speaker 1: ever met. Rest in peace, Steve Pickman, Dateline, the Department

783
00:54:57,955 --> 00:55:00,795
Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, And this story looks even

784
00:55:00,835 --> 00:55:03,315
Speaker 1: more stupid than usual in the context of the passing

785
00:55:03,395 --> 00:55:07,955
Speaker 1: of Sarge. Newsy. There's actually three pieces of Newsy news

786
00:55:07,995 --> 00:55:10,795
Speaker 1: in this, not gossip, revenge or my stories, which I

787
00:55:10,795 --> 00:55:12,915
Speaker 1: hope go right up to the line of being too much,

788
00:55:13,195 --> 00:55:16,995
Speaker 1: but never quite stay there. If you're asking when Vanity

789
00:55:16,995 --> 00:55:19,315
Speaker 1: Fair is going to get this over with and fire her,

790
00:55:20,235 --> 00:55:24,595
Speaker 1: they probably aren't. As I've alluded to before, the magazine

791
00:55:24,675 --> 00:55:27,235
Speaker 1: hired a dozen or so big names. Big names and

792
00:55:27,315 --> 00:55:30,435
Speaker 1: magazines anyway, and they threw some minor cash at them

793
00:55:30,795 --> 00:55:33,155
Speaker 1: just to use their names and maybe an article or two,

794
00:55:33,155 --> 00:55:37,915
Speaker 1: and I heard four figures. But Lachlan Cartwright at Breaker

795
00:55:38,995 --> 00:55:42,235
Speaker 1: casually mentioned the other night that Olivia's deal expires at

796
00:55:42,235 --> 00:55:45,995
Speaker 1: the end of this month. It must have been a

797
00:55:46,035 --> 00:55:49,315
Speaker 1: four month deal, and then they would talk further. They

798
00:55:49,315 --> 00:55:51,875
Speaker 1: don't have to fire her, they can just let her disappear,

799
00:55:52,315 --> 00:55:53,995
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're going to talk for her.

800
00:55:55,235 --> 00:55:58,155
Speaker 1: And Semaphore reports that in the age when just ignoring

801
00:55:58,195 --> 00:56:00,675
Speaker 1: something can at least make it disappear for a while,

802
00:56:01,235 --> 00:56:05,115
Speaker 1: as pious Vanity Fair intends to do with Olivia the

803
00:56:05,155 --> 00:56:07,595
Speaker 1: real culprit and all this Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who

804
00:56:07,635 --> 00:56:10,515
Speaker 1: is apparently extracting some kind of revenge against us by

805
00:56:10,515 --> 00:56:13,475
Speaker 1: trying to kill us all. We'll not comment on any

806
00:56:13,475 --> 00:56:15,595
Speaker 1: of the allegations, including the one in which new Zy

807
00:56:15,715 --> 00:56:22,075
Speaker 1: says the politician is using ketamin and was aware of

808
00:56:22,115 --> 00:56:25,595
Speaker 1: what Ryan Lesi claims was the clandestine attempt by Newsy

809
00:56:25,595 --> 00:56:28,515
Speaker 1: to secretly and probably illegally record Trump during the campaign.

810
00:56:29,115 --> 00:56:32,355
Speaker 1: This is solely about book sales and revenge. Book sales

811
00:56:32,395 --> 00:56:35,275
Speaker 1: for her and revenge for him, and there's zero upside

812
00:56:35,315 --> 00:56:38,995
Speaker 1: in engaging here. Semaphore quotes a source. Bobby and Cheryl

813
00:56:39,035 --> 00:56:41,635
Speaker 1: and the administration moved on from this a year ago.

814
00:56:42,355 --> 00:56:44,955
Speaker 1: Moved on has changed and meaning since I was a

815
00:56:44,995 --> 00:56:49,675
Speaker 1: younger person, it now means moved on means you're gonna

816
00:56:49,715 --> 00:56:52,835
Speaker 1: lie about it and deny it, including denying it to yourself.

817
00:56:53,355 --> 00:57:02,515
Speaker 1: Cheryl Bobby Olivia, I'm Ryan overnight Tuesday, Wednesday. This is

818
00:57:02,555 --> 00:57:05,995
Speaker 1: the third piece of actual news. Ryan began to print

819
00:57:06,515 --> 00:57:14,515
Speaker 1: source material. My god, there will be footnotes. It's a

820
00:57:14,555 --> 00:57:17,995
Speaker 1: campaign strategy memo to Kennedy. He says. She wrote it

821
00:57:18,035 --> 00:57:21,675
Speaker 1: on June something, twenty twenty four. The gist is, this

822
00:57:21,715 --> 00:57:25,115
Speaker 1: is a quote you are Rocky while the other candidates

823
00:57:25,155 --> 00:57:31,355
Speaker 1: are Rocky and Bullwinkle. This fits. Olivia enjoyed laughing. A

824
00:57:31,395 --> 00:57:34,035
Speaker 1: couple of our friends were connected with Book of Mormon.

825
00:57:34,995 --> 00:57:37,715
Speaker 1: But often she completely missed funny stuff. I don't mean

826
00:57:37,755 --> 00:57:40,875
Speaker 1: she didn't quite enjoy some things. She literally did not

827
00:57:41,035 --> 00:57:45,675
Speaker 1: know what was supposed to be funny professional humor. It

828
00:57:45,715 --> 00:57:48,955
Speaker 1: would never have dawned on her that today, in this environment,

829
00:57:49,355 --> 00:57:52,715
Speaker 1: if Rocky and Bullwinkle actually ran as the vice presidential

830
00:57:52,755 --> 00:57:57,635
Speaker 1: and presidential candidates, in any combination, they would win two

831
00:57:57,675 --> 00:58:03,715
Speaker 1: thirds of the vote over anybody else, including Rocky is

832
00:58:03,795 --> 00:58:08,515
Speaker 1: in SEBASTI stallone, including Trump, including Kamala Harris, including Gavin Newsom,

833
00:58:09,475 --> 00:58:14,755
Speaker 1: You're a new president, Bullwinkle. See people like Rocky and Bullwinkle.

834
00:58:16,515 --> 00:58:18,515
Speaker 1: All right, so the rest of it. I have suggested

835
00:58:18,555 --> 00:58:21,435
Speaker 1: earlier in this podcast that the next ken Burns documentary

836
00:58:21,475 --> 00:58:23,595
Speaker 1: will now have to be a sixteen hour epic about

837
00:58:23,595 --> 00:58:29,675
Speaker 1: Olivia Newzy. Four or depending on your definition, five Ryan Lizz'

838
00:58:29,755 --> 00:58:35,155
Speaker 1: segments down, maybe four more to go. I have to

839
00:58:35,195 --> 00:58:38,675
Speaker 1: confess I do these long form updates on this story

840
00:58:38,675 --> 00:58:41,835
Speaker 1: because it's too easy. My throat hurts. I don't have

841
00:58:41,955 --> 00:58:43,515
Speaker 1: to work hard at this. I don't have to go

842
00:58:43,635 --> 00:58:47,915
Speaker 1: research this. She lived with me for three years. Apparently

843
00:58:47,995 --> 00:58:52,675
Speaker 1: there was some sort of complicated plot to disentangle her,

844
00:58:53,275 --> 00:58:56,675
Speaker 1: which my end consisted of her coming in saying we're

845
00:58:56,715 --> 00:58:59,995
Speaker 1: both miserable. I've spent my entire adult life with you.

846
00:59:00,835 --> 00:59:04,235
Speaker 1: I just need to change. Okay, do you want to

847
00:59:04,235 --> 00:59:06,035
Speaker 1: come back in see the Dogs? Yes? I do. Can

848
00:59:06,075 --> 00:59:09,515
Speaker 1: you arrange that? Can we remind me? Please press me

849
00:59:09,555 --> 00:59:12,395
Speaker 1: to do it? Okay, you're stalking me. That was the

850
00:59:12,435 --> 00:59:16,875
Speaker 1: whole thing some plan. So I do this story because

851
00:59:17,275 --> 00:59:19,595
Speaker 1: it's kind of easy and there's less of a strain

852
00:59:19,675 --> 00:59:22,115
Speaker 1: on both my voice and my brain. I do know

853
00:59:22,195 --> 00:59:24,915
Speaker 1: it well. Again, I'm the character who gets shot in

854
00:59:24,955 --> 00:59:28,315
Speaker 1: the opening scene, like in Police Squad. But I am

855
00:59:28,355 --> 00:59:32,675
Speaker 1: beginning actually to feel bad for her, not just because

856
00:59:32,675 --> 00:59:35,635
Speaker 1: she's the mother of my dogs. And I just thought

857
00:59:35,755 --> 00:59:38,315
Speaker 1: her book came out literally on the twelfth birthday of

858
00:59:38,395 --> 00:59:42,675
Speaker 1: our dog Rose, who was Olivia's favorite, and she missed

859
00:59:42,715 --> 00:59:46,195
Speaker 1: eleven of those birthdays, and that could have been her life,

860
00:59:46,395 --> 00:59:49,675
Speaker 1: not me. I get the part about not wanting to

861
00:59:49,715 --> 00:59:53,155
Speaker 1: be with me for all that time. It's Rose. Living

862
00:59:53,195 --> 00:59:55,275
Speaker 1: with Rose for the last eleven years would have been

863
00:59:55,355 --> 00:59:59,115
Speaker 1: much more fun than whatever she's been through. In any event,

864
00:59:59,155 --> 01:00:01,635
Speaker 1: I am beginning to feel bad about it because she's

865
01:00:01,675 --> 01:00:04,235
Speaker 1: already finished in journalism anyway, and I'm not sure she

866
01:00:04,315 --> 01:00:06,995
Speaker 1: knows it, even though she cried on a podcast apparently

867
01:00:07,075 --> 01:00:11,115
Speaker 1: the other night. Let's start with the finish. The firing

868
01:00:11,155 --> 01:00:14,835
Speaker 1: is unlikely. Still that must have crossed the editor's mind

869
01:00:15,515 --> 01:00:19,075
Speaker 1: when X number two accused her of erasing an audio

870
01:00:19,075 --> 01:00:23,355
Speaker 1: tape that might have contained evidence supporting revisionist histories of

871
01:00:23,395 --> 01:00:27,915
Speaker 1: the Trump assassination attempt, and of burying the dead Bear

872
01:00:28,035 --> 01:00:33,955
Speaker 1: cub story on JFK's behalf, and of other utterly disqualifying corruption.

873
01:00:34,115 --> 01:00:38,995
Speaker 1: It's the only word for it. Corruption. Anyway. That happened

874
01:00:39,395 --> 01:00:41,515
Speaker 1: one day, and then the next day her book came out,

875
01:00:41,555 --> 01:00:46,395
Speaker 1: and it was savaged by reviewers an old Chevy Chase

876
01:00:46,475 --> 01:00:48,875
Speaker 1: joke from Saturday Night Live. They're not going to publish

877
01:00:48,915 --> 01:00:51,475
Speaker 1: a paperback edition. It's going to go straight to confetti.

878
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:59,555
Speaker 1: The Washington Post called it Olivia Newsey's Tell Nothing memoir. Oh,

879
01:00:59,595 --> 01:01:04,675
Speaker 1: my good god, tell Nothing memoir. That is a brutal

880
01:01:05,155 --> 01:01:09,995
Speaker 1: but classic line. Newsy rails against those who urge her

881
01:01:10,035 --> 01:01:12,755
Speaker 1: to tell all. I do not wish to be understood,

882
01:01:12,795 --> 01:01:16,155
Speaker 1: she writes, which no one seems to understand. This, writes

883
01:01:16,195 --> 01:01:18,715
Speaker 1: the reviewer. It's a very good reason not to write

884
01:01:18,755 --> 01:01:23,235
Speaker 1: and publish a memoir. A separate column about her in

885
01:01:23,235 --> 01:01:26,915
Speaker 1: the Washington Post began quote, I am told that writers

886
01:01:27,155 --> 01:01:35,395
Speaker 1: used to be interesting. Oh she should have benefited from

887
01:01:35,395 --> 01:01:39,035
Speaker 1: the traditional New York Times approach to everything, both sides

888
01:01:39,115 --> 01:01:42,275
Speaker 1: in it. Somehow they did not both sides her book. Quote.

889
01:01:42,555 --> 01:01:47,555
Speaker 1: Newsy's memoir is self serious and altogether disappointing published amid

890
01:01:47,555 --> 01:01:51,355
Speaker 1: a scandal over the journalist's alleged romantic entanglements with politicians.

891
01:01:51,355 --> 01:01:57,675
Speaker 1: She covered offers many scenes but little sense. But Slate

892
01:01:58,395 --> 01:02:04,315
Speaker 1: was the worst. American Canto was the last real opportunity

893
01:02:04,315 --> 01:02:08,115
Speaker 1: for news to talk about what happened tangibly, what she

894
01:02:08,355 --> 01:02:11,515
Speaker 1: did to torpedo her career and her personal life. It

895
01:02:11,555 --> 01:02:14,075
Speaker 1: could have been a pulpy tell all that explains how

896
01:02:14,155 --> 01:02:16,355
Speaker 1: she fell in love with the worst Kennedy, or a

897
01:02:16,395 --> 01:02:19,555
Speaker 1: political book opening up her reporter's notebook to share from

898
01:02:19,555 --> 01:02:24,115
Speaker 1: a vantage point few people ever reach. After these brief

899
01:02:24,155 --> 01:02:27,275
Speaker 1: weeks around Christmas, already a chaotic time to publish a book,

900
01:02:27,395 --> 01:02:31,235
Speaker 1: the interest around her will ebb. American Canto could have

901
01:02:31,235 --> 01:02:38,475
Speaker 1: helped redeem her if only it were interesting. These are

902
01:02:38,515 --> 01:02:41,995
Speaker 1: the worst words, she could hear. People are going to

903
01:02:42,035 --> 01:02:46,395
Speaker 1: forget her. And then the conclusion, never mind the dog

904
01:02:46,515 --> 01:02:50,635
Speaker 1: shit writing, the self mythologizing, the embarrassing metaphors. How can

905
01:02:50,675 --> 01:02:57,475
Speaker 1: you make this story so incredibly dull? About? The only

906
01:02:57,475 --> 01:02:59,475
Speaker 1: good review she got was not a review at all.

907
01:02:59,515 --> 01:03:02,555
Speaker 1: It was The New York Post rather surprisingly entertaining decoding

908
01:03:02,595 --> 01:03:05,755
Speaker 1: of the blind items and unidentified political figures she wrote

909
01:03:05,755 --> 01:03:08,715
Speaker 1: about without naming, either to avoid the prospect of legal

910
01:03:08,755 --> 01:03:10,715
Speaker 1: action or because she didn't want you to think of

911
01:03:10,755 --> 01:03:15,115
Speaker 1: anybody's name besides hers. That little game was far more

912
01:03:15,235 --> 01:03:23,315
Speaker 1: entertaining than the book. The post piece was outstanding. I

913
01:03:23,315 --> 01:03:26,555
Speaker 1: got a text from somebody saying, is that my ex

914
01:03:26,955 --> 01:03:32,475
Speaker 1: yelling at your ex? So anyway, as to the other

915
01:03:32,555 --> 01:03:36,555
Speaker 1: side of the equation, Liz's living with Livy, I think

916
01:03:36,595 --> 01:03:40,755
Speaker 1: he's run out of steel here or steam here. That

917
01:03:40,875 --> 01:03:44,395
Speaker 1: cliffhanger to part three of his rejoinder was about something

918
01:03:44,395 --> 01:03:46,915
Speaker 1: that might change our understanding of the attempt to shoot Trump.

919
01:03:47,155 --> 01:03:50,875
Speaker 1: The cliffhanger for part four was the revelation that Olivia's

920
01:03:50,915 --> 01:03:53,515
Speaker 1: relationship with the RFK was discovered by a friend of

921
01:03:53,515 --> 01:03:56,675
Speaker 1: his name, Kara Swisher. If you don't know who Kara

922
01:03:56,755 --> 01:03:59,675
Speaker 1: Swisher is, and the odds are really big, you don't.

923
01:04:00,355 --> 01:04:02,955
Speaker 1: She's a podcaster and writer, and I gather there's something

924
01:04:02,955 --> 01:04:05,035
Speaker 1: special about her work, but I'll be damned if I've

925
01:04:05,075 --> 01:04:07,395
Speaker 1: ever been able to find out anybody who knows what.

926
01:04:09,275 --> 01:04:12,715
Speaker 1: So the episode three cliffhanger kind of fizzled out. Olivia

927
01:04:12,795 --> 01:04:17,395
Speaker 1: sent a rolling audio recorder in in the bag of

928
01:04:17,435 --> 01:04:20,115
Speaker 1: the sketch artist who had joined her at marri Lago

929
01:04:20,195 --> 01:04:23,715
Speaker 1: for a Trump interview last year. Now, this is a

930
01:04:23,715 --> 01:04:28,435
Speaker 1: total violation of minimal journalistic standards. It is down there

931
01:04:28,475 --> 01:04:33,515
Speaker 1: with the British voicemail hacking scandal, and it's probably against

932
01:04:33,555 --> 01:04:38,035
Speaker 1: the law in Florida. Anyway, the artist believed she heard

933
01:04:38,115 --> 01:04:41,435
Speaker 1: Trump say something about the assassination that contradicted what we

934
01:04:41,515 --> 01:04:45,715
Speaker 1: have been told, but the tape wasn't clear. Liz's version

935
01:04:45,755 --> 01:04:48,995
Speaker 1: from there is, according to Olivia, is he thought is he,

936
01:04:49,075 --> 01:04:52,995
Speaker 1: being the artist, Trump had said something that cast out

937
01:04:53,035 --> 01:04:56,315
Speaker 1: on the official story behind Trump's bloody ear, which was

938
01:04:56,355 --> 01:04:59,515
Speaker 1: injured on July thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania, when Thomas Crooks

939
01:04:59,515 --> 01:05:02,475
Speaker 1: tried to kill Trump. I assumed the context of what

940
01:05:02,595 --> 01:05:04,955
Speaker 1: is he thought she overheard was about where whether it

941
01:05:04,995 --> 01:05:07,315
Speaker 1: was one of the eight rounds fired by Crooks that

942
01:05:07,395 --> 01:05:10,475
Speaker 1: nicked Trump's ear or something else Rickasheanne glass or a

943
01:05:10,515 --> 01:05:14,315
Speaker 1: bullet fragment. But that's just speculation. What I know from

944
01:05:14,395 --> 01:05:18,915
Speaker 1: Olivia is that the quality of the audio recording was poor,

945
01:05:18,955 --> 01:05:22,715
Speaker 1: that she couldn't corroborate Izzy's recollection, that she discussed the

946
01:05:22,755 --> 01:05:26,155
Speaker 1: recording with Bobby, and that after a phone call with

947
01:05:26,155 --> 01:05:29,195
Speaker 1: Bobby while he was on vacation with his wife in Baha,

948
01:05:29,635 --> 01:05:35,635
Speaker 1: Olivia erased the recording. So Olivia was involved in the

949
01:05:35,675 --> 01:05:41,755
Speaker 1: destruction of evidence. That's what Ryan Lizzick claims, and Ryan

950
01:05:42,355 --> 01:05:48,595
Speaker 1: relysic claims secondhand, I almost called him Ryan Solisa. He

951
01:05:48,675 --> 01:05:51,915
Speaker 1: exclaims secondhand that Bobby Kennedy had something to do with

952
01:05:51,955 --> 01:05:55,915
Speaker 1: the eraser, or at least knew about the erasure of evidence.

953
01:05:56,035 --> 01:05:59,275
Speaker 1: Question mark. By the way, the sketch artist is he

954
01:05:59,435 --> 01:06:02,035
Speaker 1: is the same one who did the disastrously bad nude

955
01:06:02,075 --> 01:06:04,915
Speaker 1: sketch of Olivia included in the print edition in her

956
01:06:04,955 --> 01:06:07,355
Speaker 1: debut in Vanity Fair. With the excerpt from the book,

957
01:06:08,035 --> 01:06:13,635
Speaker 1: it was commissioned by Olivia. It is not complimentary. I

958
01:06:13,675 --> 01:06:15,595
Speaker 1: hope you did not pay a lot for that muffler.

959
01:06:17,635 --> 01:06:20,555
Speaker 1: Between the book and Liza's commentaries, it appears that the

960
01:06:20,635 --> 01:06:23,795
Speaker 1: key word here in the last ten years of Olivia's

961
01:06:23,795 --> 01:06:27,315
Speaker 1: life is stalker. We've discussed this before. She writes that

962
01:06:27,475 --> 01:06:32,355
Speaker 1: RFK Junior called Liza a stalker, and RFK Junior apparently

963
01:06:32,395 --> 01:06:38,395
Speaker 1: called her a stalker. Liza says, Olivia called me a stalker,

964
01:06:40,075 --> 01:06:42,595
Speaker 1: and as I've mentioned in twenty or thirteen or fourteen,

965
01:06:42,635 --> 01:06:46,795
Speaker 1: she called a reader of hers a stalker. And she

966
01:06:46,915 --> 01:06:49,715
Speaker 1: told me several times about this guy in Washington who

967
01:06:49,755 --> 01:06:51,875
Speaker 1: would not leave her alone when she went down there

968
01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:56,115
Speaker 1: to cover stories, and his name was Ryan. Liza. Now

969
01:06:56,155 --> 01:07:00,075
Speaker 1: she has not called you a stalker. Please do not

970
01:07:00,795 --> 01:07:06,435
Speaker 1: feel left out. Okay. A couple of other points from

971
01:07:06,475 --> 01:07:10,875
Speaker 1: the various writings, And frankly, I hate to say this

972
01:07:10,875 --> 01:07:13,275
Speaker 1: because it's not that good and it's also not that journalistic,

973
01:07:13,275 --> 01:07:17,635
Speaker 1: but Liz's writing is way better than Olivia's. In August

974
01:07:17,715 --> 01:07:20,595
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, she is obsessed with the RFK Junior

975
01:07:20,635 --> 01:07:23,475
Speaker 1: Dead Bear Cub story, angry that it's in the New Yorker,

976
01:07:23,515 --> 01:07:25,995
Speaker 1: trying to get an advanced copy. Liza thinks she's mad

977
01:07:25,995 --> 01:07:28,955
Speaker 1: because she didn't have the story. Uh uh. Now, she

978
01:07:28,995 --> 01:07:31,475
Speaker 1: had missed a major scoop about the candidate, whom behind

979
01:07:31,475 --> 01:07:34,275
Speaker 1: the scenes and without much explanation, she insisted would be

980
01:07:34,315 --> 01:07:36,715
Speaker 1: the next president. What I didn't know at the time

981
01:07:36,755 --> 01:07:39,195
Speaker 1: was that she was secretly working to help make Bobby

982
01:07:39,235 --> 01:07:41,795
Speaker 1: the next president and she didn't want to get her

983
01:07:41,795 --> 01:07:44,635
Speaker 1: hands on that New Yorker profile because she envied the

984
01:07:44,675 --> 01:07:48,595
Speaker 1: bear scoop. In fact, I later learned she already had it.

985
01:07:49,155 --> 01:07:52,115
Speaker 1: Olivia had heard the strange story from a confidential source,

986
01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:54,715
Speaker 1: but instead of writing it herself and owning what would

987
01:07:54,715 --> 01:07:57,235
Speaker 1: become one of the most infamous stories of twenty twenty four,

988
01:07:57,875 --> 01:08:00,555
Speaker 1: or handing it off to a colleague at New York

989
01:08:01,675 --> 01:08:04,915
Speaker 1: The magazine, Olivia outed the source to Bobby and told

990
01:08:04,995 --> 01:08:08,315
Speaker 1: him everything she had learned. Together, they plotted ways to

991
01:08:08,395 --> 01:08:10,235
Speaker 1: kill it, or at the very least get ahead of it.

992
01:08:10,595 --> 01:08:14,195
Speaker 1: Bobby eventually preempted Claire's piece with a video about the

993
01:08:14,235 --> 01:08:18,075
Speaker 1: bear story after a New Yorker fact checker called him.

994
01:08:18,315 --> 01:08:20,875
Speaker 1: As she later revealed to me during hours of conversations,

995
01:08:20,915 --> 01:08:24,875
Speaker 1: Olivia did this regularly throughout twenty twenty four, canvassing sources

996
01:08:24,875 --> 01:08:28,715
Speaker 1: who trusted her, obtaining their opposition research on Bobby, and

997
01:08:28,755 --> 01:08:38,635
Speaker 1: then feeding it directly to the candidate. Well she's done,

998
01:08:38,835 --> 01:08:42,755
Speaker 1: I mean journalistically. I have been asked, even by the

999
01:08:42,755 --> 01:08:46,475
Speaker 1: people who were our friends, what Olivia thinks now is

1000
01:08:46,515 --> 01:08:48,555
Speaker 1: her future. At first, I thought she was just attached

1001
01:08:48,595 --> 01:08:50,875
Speaker 1: from reality and completely misjudged what would put her back

1002
01:08:50,875 --> 01:08:54,035
Speaker 1: in the upper echelon of long form political writers. I

1003
01:08:54,115 --> 01:08:57,315
Speaker 1: don't think she's that lost I don't think she's that lost.

1004
01:08:58,155 --> 01:09:02,595
Speaker 1: The crying on the podcast out of nowhere. Maybe this

1005
01:09:02,675 --> 01:09:05,835
Speaker 1: is all surprise to her. Maybe not. I hope she's

1006
01:09:05,875 --> 01:09:10,275
Speaker 1: not that lost. I mean, she can almost literally leave

1007
01:09:10,395 --> 01:09:13,355
Speaker 1: reality and come back hours later with no idea where

1008
01:09:13,395 --> 01:09:15,755
Speaker 1: she's been or what's happened in the interim. But it's

1009
01:09:15,795 --> 01:09:21,755
Speaker 1: not like this. I think that a year ago, Liz

1010
01:09:21,835 --> 01:09:24,155
Speaker 1: is right. A year ago she thought she would be

1011
01:09:24,235 --> 01:09:29,795
Speaker 1: missus RFK Junior Junior and bear his children RFK Junior

1012
01:09:29,875 --> 01:09:33,555
Speaker 1: Junior and RFK Junior Junior Junior. And I don't know,

1013
01:09:34,315 --> 01:09:38,995
Speaker 1: maybe she'd wind up talking like him. I think that's past.

1014
01:09:40,035 --> 01:09:44,555
Speaker 1: I think she's writing about how she got exploited and

1015
01:09:44,595 --> 01:09:47,035
Speaker 1: lied to by Kennedy. I think that's what the excerpt

1016
01:09:47,075 --> 01:09:51,075
Speaker 1: of the book is. Helen Lewis of The Atlantic, of

1017
01:09:51,115 --> 01:09:53,795
Speaker 1: the Tell Nothing memoir line may have accidentally hit the

1018
01:09:53,835 --> 01:09:56,155
Speaker 1: worm on the head when she added the book was

1019
01:09:56,235 --> 01:09:59,755
Speaker 1: quote a first draft hastily typed into a smartphone, a

1020
01:09:59,795 --> 01:10:03,595
Speaker 1: bargaining chip to gain favorable news coverage, a down payment

1021
01:10:03,675 --> 01:10:08,795
Speaker 1: on a post scan hand career. Yes, that's it, isn't it.

1022
01:10:09,675 --> 01:10:12,195
Speaker 1: This is setting up something else. All of this, including

1023
01:10:12,235 --> 01:10:15,755
Speaker 1: the nudity suggests she is leaning in and trying to

1024
01:10:15,795 --> 01:10:19,115
Speaker 1: create something new out in the media world. What amounts

1025
01:10:19,115 --> 01:10:24,315
Speaker 1: to a celebrity interviewer, literally or figuratively in the nude

1026
01:10:24,795 --> 01:10:29,795
Speaker 1: A naked Barbara Walters, if you will, or maybe it's

1027
01:10:29,795 --> 01:10:32,475
Speaker 1: simpler than that. I don't know. What is MAGA and

1028
01:10:32,595 --> 01:10:35,395
Speaker 1: Fox and Trump and all the rest, if not a

1029
01:10:35,475 --> 01:10:40,395
Speaker 1: home for people who were canceled totally, justifiably, irretrievably, usually

1030
01:10:40,435 --> 01:10:43,115
Speaker 1: for lack of talent, but for other reasons too, like

1031
01:10:43,155 --> 01:10:50,235
Speaker 1: the stuff Olivia did, violating every journalistic norm. The Trumpists

1032
01:10:50,275 --> 01:10:55,955
Speaker 1: said James Wood, John Voyd, Mark Halprin General Flynn, Donald Trump,

1033
01:10:55,955 --> 01:10:59,435
Speaker 1: come on down. You were dead and now you are alive.

1034
01:11:01,355 --> 01:11:05,195
Speaker 1: We not only don't care about your transgressions, we celebrate them.

1035
01:11:06,715 --> 01:11:11,395
Speaker 1: I mean we celebrate them. What would you like to

1036
01:11:11,395 --> 01:11:17,755
Speaker 1: be Secretary of I mean, look at Pete Hegseth. Of course,

1037
01:11:18,195 --> 01:11:21,155
Speaker 1: of course to do this, you now have to swear

1038
01:11:21,195 --> 01:11:24,675
Speaker 1: to carry our message, because we will keep the remaining

1039
01:11:24,675 --> 01:11:27,195
Speaker 1: blackmail material we have on you and use it against

1040
01:11:27,195 --> 01:11:29,195
Speaker 1: you and utterly destroy you if you don't do what

1041
01:11:29,235 --> 01:11:34,155
Speaker 1: we say. Lindsey Graham, Mike Johnson. So you have to

1042
01:11:34,195 --> 01:11:36,955
Speaker 1: carry our message and only our message. But you get

1043
01:11:36,995 --> 01:11:41,395
Speaker 1: to be famous and make all that money. Olivia Newsy

1044
01:11:41,635 --> 01:11:51,355
Speaker 1: on Fox News, or maybe Olivia News on Fox Newsy

1045
01:11:53,475 --> 01:11:56,155
Speaker 1: something else from Liza. In June, Olivia was working on

1046
01:11:56,155 --> 01:11:59,395
Speaker 1: two big things, a profile of Joe Biden's cognitive decline

1047
01:11:59,595 --> 01:12:04,595
Speaker 1: and a strategy memo to help Bobby revive his dying campaign.

1048
01:12:04,675 --> 01:12:08,235
Speaker 1: After Bobby's event, Olivia published her piece about Biden, savaging

1049
01:12:08,315 --> 01:12:11,275
Speaker 1: him as a drooling invalid. I was shocked when I

1050
01:12:11,315 --> 01:12:13,835
Speaker 1: read the piece because she had included an anecdote about

1051
01:12:13,835 --> 01:12:17,315
Speaker 1: Biden not remembering the name of a Democratic mega donor

1052
01:12:17,795 --> 01:12:21,275
Speaker 1: that I knew had been told to her off the record.

1053
01:12:23,075 --> 01:12:25,675
Speaker 1: How did you get that in there, I asked, I

1054
01:12:25,835 --> 01:12:29,035
Speaker 1: just sort of Michael wolfed it, she replied, which was

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Speaker 1: jarring to me because previously she was scrupulous about sourcing.

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Speaker 1: Her piece was promoted as an account of the conspiracy

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Speaker 1: of silence to protect Biden. I should explain the idea here.

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Speaker 1: Michael Wolft and all this journalists have a kind of

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Speaker 1: self flagellating but very useful series of rules about when

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Speaker 1: they will and will not publish something. If somebody tells

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Speaker 1: you off the record, that the world is going to

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Speaker 1: end tomorrow at three point thirty. You can probably break

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Speaker 1: the confidence. Somebody tells you tomorrow that somebody's going to

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Speaker 1: get arrested at three point thirty. Off the record, you

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Speaker 1: probably can't. Now, there are ways you can find out.

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Speaker 1: You can use that information to get somebody else to

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Speaker 1: tell you the same thing on the record, and then

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Speaker 1: you have a source, maybe even a source and a half.

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Speaker 1: But you have to do that dance, and many a story,

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Speaker 1: and many an inaccurate story has died because we do

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Speaker 1: that dance. She didn't do the dance. She just printed

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Speaker 1: the off the record story. It was about that time, incidentally,

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Speaker 1: that I rose from the dead as a character in

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Speaker 1: all this. Before Politico fired him, Liza used to edit

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Speaker 1: the Playbook newsletter, and every Saturday he would produce a

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Speaker 1: list of long reads, and one day, the first one

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Speaker 1: was a link to a story about wakeful dreaming people

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Speaker 1: who went into the fugue state, who did things sometimes

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Speaker 1: for hours, days, even with no realization that they were

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Speaker 1: actually awake. Ambion is supposed to be able to produce this.

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Speaker 1: It was a whole episode of breaking bad about this.

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Speaker 1: There's another thing that produces this a psychological problem called

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Speaker 1: dissociative behavior, and having seen Olivia during what the pros

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Speaker 1: suggested to me was an episode of dissociative behavior, and

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Speaker 1: having cleaned it up for her because she escaped. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many different disasters that could have befallen

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Speaker 1: her during it. I knew it right then. Liz's fiance

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Speaker 1: came home one day with no memory of say, the

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Speaker 1: preceding twenty four hours, or she'd done something of which

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Speaker 1: she had no memory or was shocked to discover was

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Speaker 1: not something she thought had been a dream or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And he was online looking for a story or an

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Speaker 1: article or a book to explain this, trying to understand it.

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Speaker 1: And then he put the link in the long reads,

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01:14:59,195 --> 01:15:02,835
Speaker 1: trying to understand it. Well, he's understood it now, hasn't he.

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01:15:04,675 --> 01:15:08,275
Speaker 1: I had deliberately altered the news after eleven or twelve

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Speaker 1: years as one of the most no's in the air,

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Speaker 1: holier than now about journalistic ethics writers in media. She

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Speaker 1: once yelled at me that I had never been a reporter.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go out and report stories. I just was

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Speaker 1: an anchor. I then had to explain to her that

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Speaker 1: I started it as a reporter. I was an anchor

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01:15:25,195 --> 01:15:27,435
Speaker 1: because I hated being an in the field reporter and

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01:15:27,555 --> 01:15:31,915
Speaker 1: was smart enough not to do it anymore. But anyway,

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01:15:31,995 --> 01:15:35,675
Speaker 1: after all this time just telling everybody else they were shit,

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01:15:37,955 --> 01:15:40,155
Speaker 1: she had suddenly switched to the other side of this

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01:15:40,195 --> 01:15:45,075
Speaker 1: equation and become shit. As somebody put it online, she

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Speaker 1: was trying to knock off one presidential candidate by destroying

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Speaker 1: the incumbent president while screwing the third presidential candidate. That's

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Speaker 1: quite a hat trick, Liza says, quote, Kennedy's aides believed

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01:15:59,475 --> 01:16:02,675
Speaker 1: he was using drugs again, and Kennedy confessed to Olivia

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Speaker 1: that he was using ketamine unquote. She probably should have

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Speaker 1: told the voters about that before the election. That's one

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Speaker 1: of those confidential I don't think so. And then there

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01:16:13,395 --> 01:16:18,675
Speaker 1: is the tape. Here's how somebody else put the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Tina Brown, the great magazine editor and publisher Newsy's Crash

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01:16:22,955 --> 01:16:26,875
Speaker 1: and Burn Comeback. Does everyone have to lose their minds

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Speaker 1: in this era of blinding excess and heartless self dealing,

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Speaker 1: including the people who cover it. I was always a

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Speaker 1: fan of political journalists Olivia Newsy's vivid, irreverent coverage in

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine and enjoyed her unabashed brevuura. In the

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01:16:42,235 --> 01:16:45,635
Speaker 1: last decade, there's been so much tiresome moral tyranny on

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Speaker 1: office slacks, from pursalist publishing nuns, passing judgment on anyone

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Speaker 1: who dared to question newsroom pieties or exhibited the slightest

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Speaker 1: hint of flipness or a conoclasm. Not unlike my feelings

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Speaker 1: towards her when I met her. She wrote that way

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01:17:00,035 --> 01:17:07,075
Speaker 1: when she was eighteen years old. But then came Newzy's

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Speaker 1: self immolating sexting scandal with former presidential candidate RK. Junior,

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Speaker 1: whom she had profiled on the twenty twenty three campaign trail.

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01:17:13,955 --> 01:17:16,955
Speaker 1: Her flagrant professional line crossing was not a good look,

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01:17:17,235 --> 01:17:20,235
Speaker 1: a good idea, or a good career move. I've always

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01:17:20,235 --> 01:17:22,595
Speaker 1: had a weakness for people, Tina Brown writes, who make

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01:17:22,635 --> 01:17:25,595
Speaker 1: epic mistakes, having made a few myself, but this one

1134
01:17:25,635 --> 01:17:28,955
Speaker 1: had real world implications for trust in the press, which

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01:17:28,995 --> 01:17:31,515
Speaker 1: at twenty eight percent is already lower than that in Congress.

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01:17:32,675 --> 01:17:35,435
Speaker 1: Newsy's only hope for redemption, Brown suggest was to come

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01:17:35,555 --> 01:17:38,315
Speaker 1: roaring back with a witty maya culpa memoir that would

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Speaker 1: also defenestrate her insatiable in all ways former crush. She

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01:17:43,915 --> 01:17:47,435
Speaker 1: even loved his brain worm for God's sakes, who now,

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Speaker 1: in the hugely influential role of Secretary of Health and

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01:17:50,235 --> 01:17:53,275
Speaker 1: Human Services, is wielding reckless power over the life and

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Speaker 1: death of three hundred and forty two million Americans. But

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Speaker 1: no Newsy has alas blown it with the absurdly pretentious

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01:18:02,475 --> 01:18:09,835
Speaker 1: American canto, the memoirs opaque staccato paragraphs, the recurring gusts

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01:18:09,835 --> 01:18:14,275
Speaker 1: of Didyon derivative Santa Anna Wins, the clunking literary appursues

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01:18:14,315 --> 01:18:19,475
Speaker 1: from the likes of Carl Jung thrown around. W TF

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01:18:19,515 --> 01:18:29,755
Speaker 1: Olivia American canto is Ezra pound in hair extensions when

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Speaker 1: Tina Brown asks, what the f I'm wrapping this up?

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Speaker 1: One more outside comment which addresses what might be the

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Speaker 1: ultimate meaning of this maybe eight parts according to Lachlan Cartwright,

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01:18:44,675 --> 01:18:49,475
Speaker 1: opus coming from Liza, especially if episodes five through eight

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01:18:49,515 --> 01:18:53,595
Speaker 1: don't exactly match the drama of the first two. This

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01:18:53,755 --> 01:18:58,395
Speaker 1: was written by Attorney Andrew Fleischman. I think we've all

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01:18:58,475 --> 01:19:03,715
Speaker 1: learned a valuable lesson about staying faithful to Ryan lizza Man.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, while she's somehow not acting as mature towards

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Speaker 1: me as she did when she was eighteen. And I

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01:19:16,035 --> 01:19:23,195
Speaker 1: really don't understand why, when there's nobody else left, you

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01:19:23,235 --> 01:19:25,675
Speaker 1: would not just refuse help or support from somebody you

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01:19:25,835 --> 01:19:27,675
Speaker 1: used to love, but you'd decide to go out and

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Speaker 1: particularly insult them. This much is clear. I got all

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Speaker 1: the sweetness and dogs and good writing, and Ryan Liza

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Speaker 1: and her readers and those interested in the future of

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01:19:43,475 --> 01:19:47,515
Speaker 1: democracy in this country got all the infidelity and adderall

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01:19:48,035 --> 01:19:52,355
Speaker 1: and ethical corruption. And it's a goddamn shame on many

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01:19:52,435 --> 01:19:57,555
Speaker 1: levels because down micro focusing on her. What a talent,

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01:19:59,075 --> 01:20:06,875
Speaker 1: What a talent she was. Just contrast that, briefly to

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01:20:06,915 --> 01:20:13,915
Speaker 1: the death of Steve Pickman. Some of us go on

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Speaker 1: to our stage. Some of us never get onto our stage,

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Speaker 1: some of us never get fully seen on the stage.

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Speaker 1: And some of us get fully seen on the stage

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Speaker 1: and are gone as quickly as we got there. Rest

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Speaker 1: in peace, Steve Pickman. I've done all the damage I

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Speaker 1: can do here, hopefully no more. To my throat have

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01:20:42,275 --> 01:20:46,555
Speaker 1: to admit I did come back strong. I finished up

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01:20:46,635 --> 01:20:50,635
Speaker 1: strong here. Well, my theory was my voice goes out

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Speaker 1: again and never comes back at least we want to

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Speaker 1: leave one last long podcast. Thanks for listening. I hope

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Speaker 1: it didn't sound too bad. Seems like it's okay. Most

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Speaker 1: of our Countdown music was arranged, produced, and performed by

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Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Phillips. Chanel are musical directors of Countdown,

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Speaker 1: and it was produced by TKO Brothers. Mister Ray was

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Speaker 1: on the guitars, bass and drums. Mister Chanel handled orchestration

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Speaker 1: and keyboards. You'll notice what I did here is I've

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Speaker 1: just sort of been kind of flat. I haven't been enthusiastic,

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Speaker 1: had done a lot of funny voices. Doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 1: not interested in the script, just means it hurts less

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Speaker 1: when I talk like this. In any event, our satirical

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Speaker 1: and pithy musical comments are by the best baseball stadium

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Speaker 1: organist ever, Nancy Faust. The Olderman theme from ESPN two

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Speaker 1: is the sports music. It's written by Mitch Warren Davis.

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Speaker 1: ESPN Ink was nice enough to let it appear. Other

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Speaker 1: music arranged and performed by the group No horns allowed,

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Speaker 1: and everything else was as always my fault. So that's

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Speaker 1: Countdown for today. Day three hundred and eighteen, America held

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Speaker 1: hostage just forty five days until the scheduled end of

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Speaker 1: his lame duck and lame brained term, unless he's removed

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Speaker 1: sooner by Maga and Epstein and anopsygnosia or the next

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Speaker 1: mystery MRI or tile and all, or the next reporter

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Speaker 1: he attacks, or laryngitis. The next scheduled countdown is Monday.

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Speaker 1: Guess what. There's a possibility I'll have to skip it.

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Speaker 1: You've heard the voice, don't be shocked. I'll put a

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Speaker 1: note on at least the YouTube community notepad till whenever

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Speaker 1: I'm Keith Alberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and

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Speaker 1: good luck. Countdown with Keith Olberman is a production of iHeartRadio.

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