Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, it's Jefferson White here. And if you're hearing
Speaker 1: my voice, you know you're listening to the one, the only,
Speaker 1: the official Yellowstone Podcast. And of course, what would this
Speaker 1: show be without my amazing co host Jen Landon.
Speaker 2: Jeff, you seem really excited today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm jazzed up.
Speaker 1: The nineteen twenty three season finale was insane.
Speaker 3: I'm stoked. I'm still buzzing.
Speaker 2: I know it was major. I felt like I felt
Speaker 2: like it was every big event in history in one episode.
Speaker 3: It's really wild. This show has traveled, a lot has happened.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dig real deep into it, and so just
Speaker 1: know that if you haven't seen all of nineteen twenty three,
Speaker 1: you are entering into spoiler territory.
Speaker 3: You've been warned. And because we're doing a deep dive.
Speaker 1: We're bringing in a heavy hitter, some professional help to
Speaker 1: straighten us out and keep us on track. We have
Speaker 1: once again, we are very very lucky to have our
Speaker 1: dear friend, Lynette Ris from Deadline dot Com joining us today.
Speaker 2: I am so looking forward to this episode. But first
Speaker 2: we need to step aside really quick and take a break.
Speaker 2: We will be right back.
Speaker 3: Incredible episode in nineteen twenty three.
Speaker 1: This week a lot to unpack, a lot to explore,
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, and in order to talk
Speaker 1: about it from an informed, thoughtful, conscientious journalistic perspective, we
Speaker 1: brought in our ringer, Lynnette. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being here again.
Speaker 4: Heavy journalism here, bringing the heavy journalism to this Yelestone podcast.
Speaker 1: I think of you as the Spencer Dutton of entertained news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are to stories what Spencer Dutton is to every
Speaker 1: animal on the continent of Africa.
Speaker 4: Wowie, well, I hope you think I am I as
Speaker 4: hot as Spencer Dutton. That's what I really want to know.
Speaker 2: I don't think you understand like what a compliment like.
Speaker 2: It's a compliment in and of itself, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know, like how much of a compliment
Speaker 2: it is. Jeff hasn't stopped talking about Spencer Dutton for
Speaker 2: like five or six weeks now, and not just on air,
Speaker 2: Like I get random texts like do you really think
Speaker 2: do you think Spencer? Do you think I can be
Speaker 2: cool like that? I mean, we both are obsessed.
Speaker 3: He's given me a complex.
Speaker 1: I watched the show with my fiance And this is
Speaker 1: what I think my therapist would probably call projection, because
Speaker 1: I'm kind of watching her watch the show and projecting
Speaker 1: onto her the idea that I'll never be the man
Speaker 1: that Spencer Dutton is. I'm not even I'm not even
Speaker 1: Alex's old fiance, the Duke of whatever. Because that guy
Speaker 1: at least had the balls to challenge Spencer Dutton. I
Speaker 1: am walking away from that counting, I think.
Speaker 4: So that's the right call. That dude should not have
Speaker 4: called for a duel. It was so stupid, but it
Speaker 4: was great TV.
Speaker 1: As soon as he called for the duel, I was like,
Speaker 1: this dude's going off the boat. This dude is going
Speaker 1: headfirst off the boat. That's the only way this ends.
Speaker 1: You think you're going to get Spencer Dutton when an
Speaker 1: African elephant couldn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt bad for Arthur, Like I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel bad for him now that he died, But I
Speaker 2: felt bad for him before that, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 4: I didn't at all. I didn't at all. I was
Speaker 4: so glad that she ran out with him. And what
Speaker 4: an incredible way to set up for the second season,
Speaker 4: setting up so many steaks, so many places to go
Speaker 4: it's been a great ride.
Speaker 1: I'm always amazed at how different all the shows are.
Speaker 1: You know, they're dealing with some of the same subject matter,
Speaker 1: but the tone is so dramatically different. This is such
Speaker 1: a like adventure series in such an exciting way. I
Speaker 1: think the tones of the shows are in part defined
Speaker 1: by the era in which they take place. You know,
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty three was such a like honest to God
Speaker 1: faithful Western, and nineteen twenty three has this feeling of
Speaker 1: this big, open world, which is what it must have
Speaker 1: felt like to be alive at that time, this moment
Speaker 1: of discovery, of exploration. There's such a kind of adventurous
Speaker 1: tone to it. I can't help but feel like that's
Speaker 1: informed by the decade. So, speaking of which we've touched
Speaker 1: on Spencer and Alexandra's epic journey back home to the ranch,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about what's going on at
Speaker 1: the ranch and whether or not there will be a
Speaker 1: ranch there by the time Spencer gets there, which at
Speaker 1: this point could take him years, even before.
Speaker 4: We get into the Debton part of it, which is
Speaker 4: in itself has been so juicy. When I joined this show,
Speaker 4: that's all I expected that we were just going to
Speaker 4: live there. We're gonna live at Yellowstone and hear this story.
Speaker 4: And so what has been so great about this journey
Speaker 4: is that that was just one third, and that you've
Speaker 4: got these two other stories that I didn't expect to
Speaker 4: love so much. And and you know, there's obviously the
Speaker 4: romance with our beloved Spencer and Alex, and then this
Speaker 4: whole other story, frightening, scary ass storyline with the Catholics
Speaker 4: and and the way they treated the indigenous women, and
Speaker 4: and every week it's something more horrific. Uh, that's been
Speaker 4: so great. It's like just when you know, he cuts
Speaker 4: to that world and then we're just getting into it
Speaker 4: and then boom, you know, we go someplace else. H
Speaker 4: what a master a class and like keeping the story flowing,
Speaker 4: good editing and not making us feel lost. I never
Speaker 4: have once felt lost. So yeah, I wanted to be
Speaker 4: able to say that at the Ranch, Jacob at this
Speaker 4: point doesn't seem quite as ruthless as what the family
Speaker 4: develops into as the decades go by. And so I'm
Speaker 4: wondering if this is going to be, you know, a
Speaker 4: changing point for the kind of man that Jacob is,
Speaker 4: because he seems like he's for the most part by
Speaker 4: the law.
Speaker 1: Do you think, well, that conflict rages within him because
Speaker 1: they did string those guys up via vigilante justice. Early on,
Speaker 1: it feels like he's torn between this old world justice
Speaker 1: and this new world justice. And it feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: Donald Whitfield is trying to use this kind of cool, impartial,
Speaker 1: you know, logical mode of attack, and Jacob feels caught
Speaker 1: between these two things. You know, he's he's got a
Speaker 1: little bit of Jack Dutton in him, the you know,
Speaker 1: the desire for revenge, and he's also got a little
Speaker 1: bit of that cool, calm, impartial, perhaps Kara Dutton energy.
Speaker 2: The Donald Whitfield character feels capable of true ruthlessness, where
Speaker 2: Jacob because he's so heart centered, even if it is
Speaker 2: vengeance and it looks like ruthless and us outwardly at campy,
Speaker 2: it's not cold enough, it's not disconnected enough, it's not
Speaker 2: heady enough.
Speaker 4: Now that we're in the Dutton household, I do want
Speaker 4: to give a shout out to that moment where we
Speaker 4: see Elizabeth she lost her baby and she's lying in
Speaker 4: bed with her Jack played by Darren Mann, and that
Speaker 4: has to be his best scene from this season. First
Speaker 4: of all, he was the total dream man in that moment,
Speaker 4: making her feel better about losing her kid and just
Speaker 4: saying all the right things. And while he doesn't rise
Speaker 4: to Spencer level for me, he got dang close in
Speaker 4: that moment.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I thought that really showcased a whole
Speaker 1: different kind of journey. You know, Spencer's been on this
Speaker 1: like geographical journey, But to me, Jack has grown so much.
Speaker 1: It felt like when we first met him he was
Speaker 1: a kid. You know, he was a sort of impetuous,
Speaker 1: angry kid, ready to run off for revenge, ready to
Speaker 1: neglect his larger responsibilities. But I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 1: I thought that was an incredibly well acted scene that
Speaker 1: also showcased a lot of growth from the character. It
Speaker 1: feels like Jack has been on this journey of growth.
Speaker 1: He's been one of the very few characters who stay
Speaker 1: in one place physically over the course of the season.
Speaker 1: But it feels like he's really grown into a man
Speaker 1: in an amazing way.
Speaker 4: Why did Taylor take her baby? Like, was he trying
Speaker 4: to set up this is what ranch life is going
Speaker 4: to be like, honey, and you know, get ready for it?
Speaker 2: I appreciate what Taylor is doing in terms of approaching
Speaker 2: like one just like honoring like how painful that is
Speaker 2: for women. And you know, like that's a perspective that
Speaker 2: like he doesn't necessarily need to like tap into, and
Speaker 2: he does it, and I think it's really valuable and
Speaker 2: really important. But then also to carry it into the
Speaker 2: fact that, like your whole value as a woman isn't
Speaker 2: just like having a kid, that like that is not
Speaker 2: the only way that you mother. And I thought that
Speaker 2: was that was really just very cool of him to
Speaker 2: put in.
Speaker 4: Well, I wonder if he's also trying to throw us
Speaker 4: off because all of us are trying to figure out
Speaker 4: the family tree. We want to know who's related to who,
Speaker 4: and if he keeps throwing us off with this, then
Speaker 4: we won't figure out the math the bloodline. Who is
Speaker 4: the true grandfather of John Detton and so. And that's
Speaker 4: what's so fun to talk to the actors about because
Speaker 4: they're having the same dang conversation. They're doing their own
Speaker 4: family trees on set and and they don't know either.
Speaker 3: So do you guys know?
Speaker 2: Do you know? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: You don't know. I also I also have to tell
Speaker 2: you personally, I don't care like I don't like I
Speaker 2: don't need to know who the dad is like I Karen,
Speaker 2: so much as like maybe being invested in who dies Jen.
Speaker 1: I could argue with you about this all day because
Speaker 1: I'm a compassionate, empathetic person. But let's take a break
Speaker 1: really quick, and when we come back, we'll keep getting
Speaker 1: into it. You're right to identify that what matters is
Speaker 1: who is going to survive the act the events of
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three, because they basically it was like a
Speaker 1: clean cut on eighteen eighty three, So we're all sort
Speaker 1: of rooting for our respected that the main goal of
Speaker 1: figuring out who you know who Costner's predecessors are figuring out,
Speaker 1: oh god, who's going to survive. I want to believe
Speaker 1: that all these characters are going to make it through,
Speaker 1: but based on the model of eighteen eighty three, that
Speaker 1: would be it all dies.
Speaker 4: It makes it fun, No, it just makes it all
Speaker 4: fun's But it was fun washing House of the Dragon.
Speaker 4: You want to know the relation to the later characters
Speaker 4: that we met in Game of Thrones. It just makes
Speaker 4: the viewing experience that much more fun. To tie it
Speaker 4: all together, and so we can look for those little
Speaker 4: easter eggs. We can look for those signs in a character,
Speaker 4: like any little gesture, the way they say something, is
Speaker 4: that something that's carried on into the bloodline. I mean
Speaker 4: it's it's yeah, it's not brain surgery, but it's fun stuff.
Speaker 4: It's the fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Speaking of brain surgery, how about Tiana Rainwater's absolute killing
Speaker 1: spree as she you know, seeks to escape her captivity.
Speaker 1: So the brain surgery connection is watching her absolutely dismantle
Speaker 1: that man's brain with a rock that was that was graphic,
Speaker 1: but also gratifying. I gotta say watching her sort of
Speaker 1: it does feel like she's on this incre edible Like
Speaker 1: you know, Spencer is on a journey. Tiana is on
Speaker 1: a journey and being pursued the entire way by these
Speaker 1: kind of ruthless captors. So it's so fun watching her
Speaker 1: escape and also kind of get vengeance. You know, there's
Speaker 1: this real spirit of vengeance feeling to the whole thing
Speaker 1: that I cherish After those first few episodes when she
Speaker 1: was stuck in the residential school being absolutely abused and
Speaker 1: traumatized and taken advantage of. It's a really gratifying thing
Speaker 1: to see her out in the open air, you know,
Speaker 1: escaping and on her own terms. She had a beautiful
Speaker 1: line this episode she said, they've been trying to kill
Speaker 1: me since they took me. I don't believe in later,
Speaker 1: I believe in right now. I thought that was so powerful.
Speaker 1: That actor is also fucking amazing. I'm amazed by her
Speaker 1: every episode of Mina.
Speaker 3: She rocks. This is Scott.
Speaker 4: This is something that I would just love to have
Speaker 4: dinner with Taylor about and why he decided to go
Speaker 4: down this road. I can recall after the first episode
Speaker 4: when all of a sudden, the action feared to that
Speaker 4: school and it was so violent, and I remember reading
Speaker 4: message boards and it was hard on viewers and they
Speaker 4: were like, what the hell just happened.
Speaker 1: I think we spoke with mobrings plenty a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago about this kind of the responsibility to be
Speaker 1: honest in our depictions of this time period, of responsibility
Speaker 1: and obligation to honestly confront this incredibly painful history.
Speaker 3: Because it is it is brutal.
Speaker 1: It's hard to watch sometimes. I found that to be
Speaker 1: the case in eighteen eighty three. In nineteen twenty three,
Speaker 1: for sure, and part of it is this sort of honest,
Speaker 1: clear eyed reckoning with our history, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: all there is to it. And I also I feel
Speaker 1: for the actors involved in this, because as hard as
Speaker 1: it is to watch, I'm sure it takes an incredible
Speaker 1: toll to reenact this brutal history on both sides of
Speaker 1: the equation. But I also salute and admire their commitment
Speaker 1: to honesty and to sort of bringing whatever humanity they
Speaker 1: can to these incredibly difficult, painful circumstances. So good on them.
Speaker 1: And also, especially now that Tiana's out of there and
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, getting some revenge, it is particularly
Speaker 1: now it's taken a turn in a way that I enjoy.
Speaker 1: I really look forward to her stuff now. For the
Speaker 1: first few episodes, they were incredibly well done. I would
Speaker 1: sort of cringe when we would cut to her stuff
Speaker 1: because I was fucking terrified to confront that history. I
Speaker 1: was terrified to see what would happen next. But now
Speaker 1: that she's out on the open road, I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to it, and I'm really looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: what's next because we know that Priest is getting his
Speaker 1: fucking just desserts, right I'm like, Bro, you should get
Speaker 1: off that horse, turn around, go home, and forget about Tiana.
Speaker 1: You don't want to catch up to her. All I
Speaker 1: want to say to that guy is, Bro, don't catch
Speaker 1: up to her.
Speaker 3: That's a mistake.
Speaker 4: I'm fraid they're going to find her. They're totally that
Speaker 4: the dude that signed on with them, they're gonna find her.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid for them that they're gonna find her. I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid for her. Oh yeah, they shouldn't find her.
Speaker 1: They should let that one go because that's bad news
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 3: She's a she's a killer.
Speaker 1: I'm I think she's fo I mean, it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: also be pretty gratifying to watch them get exactly what
Speaker 1: they have come in. But if I were them, I
Speaker 1: would go home let this one go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of like brutal things that and I mean
Speaker 2: one that I didn't know about at all. But when
Speaker 2: the Montana State Police come and arrest Alice Chow.
Speaker 1: For miscegenation, yeah, just when Zaye got some fun shit too.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for zaying that. That's my buddy Brian Garretty,
Speaker 1: who's like one of the best actors on the planet
Speaker 1: and just when he got to take off his hat.
Speaker 1: You get to you get to take off your hat,
Speaker 1: you get to sit down at a table, you get
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of dialogue, finally, finally getting
Speaker 1: Zane's in her life.
Speaker 4: And he got busy in the shower too. He had
Speaker 4: like a little nude scene there.
Speaker 2: He was saving water. Yeah, come on, grow up, they
Speaker 2: were Lennet. There's a drown.
Speaker 1: But just when we get to see this other side
Speaker 1: of Zaye, which I'm so excited about, of course, classic tailor.
Speaker 1: You get a little bit of good stuff and then
Speaker 1: you gotta take your medicine. Uh so, Yeah, amazing, amazing sequence. Also,
Speaker 1: these goddamn these goddamn henchmen. This dude with the beard
Speaker 1: sort of stalking around observing everybody being a narc. That
Speaker 1: guy's gonna get it too. Talk about brain surgery. I
Speaker 1: think that guy's.
Speaker 3: Got a special.
Speaker 1: He's got a little meeting with Jack Dutton sometime down
Speaker 1: the line where Jack Dutton will finally get to exercise
Speaker 1: some of his demons.
Speaker 4: That's all tied to Donald Whitfield, right, all those those
Speaker 4: henchmen that came and got him, Is that all tied
Speaker 4: back to Timothy Dalton's character.
Speaker 1: Somehow exactly Yeah, he was, Well, it seems like Timothy
Speaker 1: Dalton had sent his his henchmen to sort of spy
Speaker 1: on Zaane. Zaye fought that henchman, followed Zaane back to
Speaker 1: his house and then reported him to the police. So
Speaker 1: so it was, you know, it was legal. What they
Speaker 1: were doing in separating that family was tragically legal. But
Speaker 1: it was Donald Whitfield who sort of orchestrated bringing that
Speaker 1: to the authorities attention.
Speaker 4: So said, all right, shall we jump to Spencer? Can
Speaker 4: we jump to Spencer?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: Can we go on the boat the ship?
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Spencer and Alex, they're further along
Speaker 1: on their journey than they've ever been. They finally got
Speaker 1: a little bit of comfort for once. They're like riding
Speaker 1: on this big, amazing ship. They're not having to hoof
Speaker 1: it through the wilderness. They're actually sort of it would seem,
Speaker 1: full steam ahead towards their final destination, when, of course
Speaker 1: some shit gets in the way.
Speaker 4: Well, I've enjoyed this trip. It's thrown me off because
Speaker 4: I didn't think it would take them this long to
Speaker 4: get home, But it makes sense because it's not you know,
Speaker 4: an overnight trip. So I've enjoyed that it's taken so long.
Speaker 4: It's nice to see them in clean clothes. And that dress.
Speaker 4: When she walked out of her room wearing that bejeweled number,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, she looked like a million bucks. I
Speaker 4: loved that, just loved it.
Speaker 1: Alex's ex awkward. Alex's ex is on the boat too.
Speaker 1: He can't quite swallow his pride, so he challenges Spencer
Speaker 1: Dunton to a duel?
Speaker 3: What are you thinking?
Speaker 4: I liked how they set that up too, in that
Speaker 4: he said to the dad, you don't want to have
Speaker 4: your son do this because I could kill him. And
Speaker 4: I mean, I really appreciate that moment too. But you know, him,
Speaker 4: being who he is, you know, in the masculine side
Speaker 4: of him, took over and said, okay, fine, I'll do
Speaker 4: the duel. I loved how quickly it ended. In that
Speaker 4: first round, he just punched him and took him down,
Speaker 4: and I thought that would be the end of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he fucking grabbed the sword. He wrapped a towel
Speaker 1: around his hand and grabbed the sword.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: The dad was trying to be a voice of re
Speaker 1: I appreciated that the dad was like, son, This guy's
Speaker 1: a total badass. This guy's the son that I never had.
Speaker 1: Please don't let him kill you for your own sake,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be embarrassing. And his son still couldn't
Speaker 1: quite still couldn't quite muster the dignity to just run away,
Speaker 1: and he got his ass thrown off the ship. And
Speaker 1: those are tall ships. Every shot of that ship, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's a tall ship.
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming they didn't find him.
Speaker 1: Then, right, he's dead, yeah, they say, they say later.
Speaker 2: The bad thing about the bad thing about a ship
Speaker 2: like that, sorry, is the motor is really strong, right,
Speaker 2: so you go off a ship next to it, it
Speaker 2: pulls you down and you get pulled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's over.
Speaker 3: We got to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: I didn't see that coming. I mean, I knew this
Speaker 4: was not gonna go well, but I didn't see coming
Speaker 4: to where he would throw off He would throw him
Speaker 4: off the ship and then there was like no turning
Speaker 4: back there too.
Speaker 1: Spencer really tried not to. I also respected that Spencer,
Speaker 1: the logical part of him, really tried not to get
Speaker 1: in this fight. It It took this guy calling Alex
Speaker 1: a whore for Spencer to even accept the duel in
Speaker 1: the first place. He knocked him down a few times
Speaker 1: and I kicked his sword away, really tried to not
Speaker 1: have to kill him, and the guy just couldn't accept it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer also like didn't even want to leave the room.
Speaker 2: He's like, what happened to that plant?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was really with him on that. I was also
Speaker 2: like a little bit like, come on, don't rub it
Speaker 2: in little Arthur's face, Baby Arthur boy, Like, come on, I.
Speaker 4: Was ready to be a woman. She didn't want to be.
Speaker 4: She wanted to be a woman. I guess that's She's.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't I don't want to hide it anymore.
Speaker 2: But like, how long are you really hiding it? Right? Like,
Speaker 2: if you been hiding it that long, please, I've had
Speaker 2: things for twenty right, all right? Did you guys come?
Speaker 4: Did you guys see him flash the gun? That scene
Speaker 4: went so fast. I didn't see the gun.
Speaker 3: You pulled out something. It was a little hard to tell.
Speaker 1: It was a quick He kind of rushed him from
Speaker 1: behind and was carrying something in his right hand.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, that was such a brilliant setup to set up. Obviously,
Speaker 4: more steaks for the two of them, and it gave
Speaker 4: us that great final moment of them yelling at each
Speaker 4: other across the water, I love you, I love you,
Speaker 4: which was pretty dang romantic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was really powerful.
Speaker 2: It was really beautiful. Also, what did they say is
Speaker 2: somebody commented on it it that like though the marriage
Speaker 2: might be hard to prove.
Speaker 1: The yeah, there, you can't question their sincerity or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So back on the continental United States of America, back
Speaker 1: in North America.
Speaker 2: Wait, you guys real quick before we leave this, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. Like besides yelling I love you, she holds
Speaker 2: up I believe the letters and says I will see
Speaker 2: you in Bozeman. I will see you in Bozeman, Montana,
Speaker 2: which is setting us up for this storyline in the
Speaker 2: next season of nineteen twenty three that we know yet
Speaker 2: right where these two lovers are going to be on
Speaker 2: these journeys solo and these an incredibly dangerous one completely
Speaker 2: on their own. I mean, whether we'll see that or not,
Speaker 2: but that is what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to think now it's going to be
Speaker 4: this is going to be split in fours and so
Speaker 4: We're going to watch her journey to get to Bozeman
Speaker 4: and watch what happens to him. And where did they land?
Speaker 4: By the way, do we know where they landed?
Speaker 1: They'd only traveled like one day. They had been on
Speaker 1: the coast of Italy before, and they'd only traveled for
Speaker 1: like one day, so he got he didn't get kicked
Speaker 1: out very far away from where they had been previously.
Speaker 2: Also, I know that I might have said earlier that
Speaker 2: I'm not all that concerned about like who's the parent
Speaker 2: of whom? But I do care about who dies in
Speaker 2: the event it we find out in like the first
Speaker 2: episode of the next season that Alexandro is pregnant or
Speaker 2: something like, all bets are off in terms of like
Speaker 2: Spencer's safety, right or who's who? Were like the concern
Speaker 2: about that? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Spencer's the only guy I'm not worried about. Nothing's bringing
Speaker 1: down Spencer.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a great love, and no great love
Speaker 4: lasts forever, so I don't think this union is is
Speaker 4: in it for the long haul. Somebody's gonna die.
Speaker 1: Speaking of great love, Lynnette, how about Kara and Jacob.
Speaker 1: She's been nursing him back to health. He's now sort
Speaker 1: of back up on his feet. He's kind of capable
Speaker 1: of once again taking responsibility for the ranch. This episode opens,
Speaker 1: I believe in this incredible courtroom scene where Banner has
Speaker 1: been arrested, but there's this he's immediately released because there's
Speaker 1: this kind of complicated relationship between vigilante justice and the
Speaker 1: law at this point. So their their their argument is, hey,
Speaker 1: a few days before Banner shot Jacob, Jacob strung up
Speaker 1: Banner and left him to die. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: these two different kinds of justice, you know, courtroom justice
Speaker 1: and cowboy justice are directly in conflict. And Banner says
Speaker 1: to Jacob in the courtroom, he says, you know, this
Speaker 1: doesn't end here. It doesn't end in a courtroom. This
Speaker 1: ends on your front lawn, which I thought was like
Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good line. And Jacob's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: if that's where you want to die, I'll see you there,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty sick, also really good. These
Speaker 1: are two guys. I could watch these two dudes growl
Speaker 1: at each other all day. We got two legendary growlers, and.
Speaker 4: Definitely feel like they've set him up. So he's at
Speaker 4: a helpless place, and we need Spencer to swing in
Speaker 4: and save the day because it feels like he has
Speaker 4: no place to go Jacob to fix this. I mean,
Speaker 4: what's left? He has no money? Right, does he have
Speaker 4: many cattle left to sell? He's screwed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of all he has is the cattle. A
Speaker 1: lot of his cowboys left, his sort of army. You know,
Speaker 1: when we first met him at the beginning of nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty three, he had a pretty substantial group of cowboys
Speaker 1: who were loyal to him, if nothing else. But now
Speaker 1: as the hard seasons have crept on, he's even lost
Speaker 1: a number of his faithful soldiers. And he lost obviously,
Speaker 1: he lost John Dutton Senior. So he's really stretched thin.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a parallel between nineteen twenty three
Speaker 1: and the actions of Yellowstone, where in the actions of Yellowstone,
Speaker 1: now you know, Kevin Cosner, John Dutton is facing this
Speaker 1: kind of complicated battle that's getting increasingly political. It's getting
Speaker 1: further and further from the ranch itself, and it feels
Speaker 1: like the same conflict is facing Jacob Dutton. You know,
Speaker 1: his forces are spread very thin, and winter is coming,
Speaker 1: you know, not too glibly call on Yeah, exactly, I know,
Speaker 1: but winter's coming, right, And Whitfield has this incredible line
Speaker 1: to Jacob where he's like, you know, all you can
Speaker 1: really think is the seasons, man, You depend on the seasons.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: I just think about the future. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come and buy up all this land. I'm
Speaker 1: going to take this all over, and nobody's going to
Speaker 1: remember you. It's a really exciting place to leave it
Speaker 1: because there are all these conflicts just simmering and winter
Speaker 1: is just setting in. So it's really an exciting place
Speaker 1: to leave it, and I cannot wait to see what
Speaker 1: happens next. Lynette, I can't thank you enough for joining
Speaker 1: us again today to dig into all this stuff. It's
Speaker 1: an incredibly exciting time to be a Yellowstone fan. There's
Speaker 1: Yellowstone coming, there's more nineteen twenty three coming, There's so
Speaker 1: much to look forward to, and I'm sure our listeners agree.
Speaker 1: We really can't wait. So I'm looking forward to speaking
Speaker 1: again Lynette, hopefully soon. And thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us.
Speaker 4: Oh my pleasure, so much fun.
Speaker 2: Thanks Lynette.
Speaker 1: As always, thank you all out there so much for
Speaker 1: listening as we very eagerly await the return of the
Speaker 1: second part. Of Yellowstone season five. We're going to continue
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