WEBVTT - That's Some Good S Right There! 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.240 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.360 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:22.680 Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:25.440 So they're not going to be a part of NATO. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.440 But we've got the European nations and they'll frontload it, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.479 and they'll have some of them France and Germany, a 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.800 couple of them UK. They want to have, you know, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.040 boots on the ground, not not in. I don't think 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:39.560 it's going to be a problem, to be honest with you. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.000 I think I think Putin is tired of it. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.159 I think they're all tired of it. But you never know. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.040 We're going to find out about President Putin in the 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.920 next couple of weeks that I can tell you, and 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.280 we're going to see where it all goes. It's possible 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.920 that he doesn't want to make a deal. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.800 That Vladimir Putin is going to continue to commit war crimes, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.760 that he has as a significant military force, that he 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.600 needs to be stopped, and that he is in every 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.200 sense I'll use a nautical term here, putting a shot 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.360 across the bow the president of the United States. We 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.839 had to be mindful of that and respond to it 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.400 with real force and strength. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.680 That's James Stravitas on CNN, former NATO commander, and he 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.560 and Trump someone in line there that Putin may just 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.400 want to keep prosecuting this war. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.440 Now. As to boots on the. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.720 Ground and all that sort of stuff, Trump offered up 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:41.160 some security guarantees yesterday, including saying the US will have 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.000 the back, and wanted to clear that up today apparently 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.080 because just moments ago he said, you have my assurance 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.880 no US boots on the ground in Ukraine. So he 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.960 has definitively ruled that out. Well, let's discuss all of 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.800 this with analyst Mike Allons, who, among his many experiences, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:01.920 does an aid to camp to a general officer in 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.040 NATO Command back in the day. Mike, as we started 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.960 the show, first of all, greetings, is always good to talk. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.720 How are you hey, guys, great to be back with you. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:12.000 Thank you. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.639 So we started the show today with a discussion of Okay, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.400 in spite of the amazing pictures from the White House 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.480 and all of the diplomacy and the meetings, and it 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:22.480 was really quite something. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.959 Now comes the hard part. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.000 Yeah, yes, for sure, this is probably the beginning of 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.960 the beginning if you're looking for some kind of analogy here, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.440 and the hard part is going to be getting Russian 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.080 negotiators sit to sit down with Ukraine negotiators as well 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.480 as the United States here trying to figure out how 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.560 to redraw that map. I think Zelenski has come to 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.640 the conclusion that he's going to lose territory, and the 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.520 Russia does already occupy. They've took it from a military perspective, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.000 so they've got to figure out what that is. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:55.360 Now. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.760 If the Ukraine negotiators or the team that they have 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.520 a side doesn't think he's going to get that through 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.919 his Congress or his his government, then that this is 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:09.080 all or not because he didn't have this power to 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.560 just give land away on Ukraine. So there's definitely a 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.040 hard part here. You saw the German chances of trying 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.120 to get a ceasefire because you wake up this morning 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:22.960 and Russia continues to attack civilian targets inside Ukraine, and frankly, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.480 I still don't think there's enough leverage at being put 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.040 on Latimer Putin to want to stop this anytime soon. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:29.440 So I think we've got a waste to go. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.160 So all the talk of security guarantees if Trump or 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.600 if Putin would agree to some sort of deal, the 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:41.360 security guarantees, British troops on the ground, French troops on 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.040 the ground, and then a backup of the United States. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.080 It's interesting that so one of Putin's red lines is 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:53.160 no NATO guarantees, and so Trump's getting around that by okay, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.840 we'll have different We'll have some of the European countries 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.839 that are in NATO and have a guarantee with them. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.560 But what does that all look like to you? And 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.200 how easily could we get pulled into the whole thing. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.000 Well, I think we'll still provide air cover, air defense systems, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.000 it will still be involved with the security guarantee, but 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.800 just the boots on the ground is where that thing 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.640 could get, you know, sideways. Quick looking for like a 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.800 historical analysis, you'd go back to the date and the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.640 courts in Bonsi and Serbia when the United States did 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.719 put boots on the ground inside that country. But they 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.800 brought a lot of combat power to the battlefield. And 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.960 I do remember some conversation taking place between the general 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.840 that ran it and Melosovich himself saying, if you even 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.360 look sideways at when any one of our soldiers were 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.080 going to come and destroy all of you. So the 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.360 question is the security guarantee is greatest is what combat 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.760 power will they bring to the battlefield. You know, twenty 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.280 to thirty thousand troops of French and British troops are 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.200 going to need logistical support and they're going to have 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.320 to be enough of a threat that would keep Russia 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.400 at bay. So again, a lot of it has to 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.320 be blushed out when it comes to what that security 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:58.080 agreement looks like. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.960 And rewinding just a bit back to the topic of 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:05.480 Vladimir Putin. Given the reality on the battlefield right now 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.040 and his goals, how much incentive do you think he 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.200 has to actually negotiate in a serious way. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.920 I don't think he has much yet, and I think 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.520 that we should have already put the sanctions on. And 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.200 I think the Biden administration wasted all of their time. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.600 And you know, he is longer, he could kind of 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.279 let this go. It makes he thinks, it makes Zelensky 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:34.080 look weak, and eventually his goal was to get rid 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.520 of him. He's looking for a win here. He'll he'll 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.400 take the win being the land that he's captured, let's 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.800 say inside Ukraine. He didn't get the whole country, but 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.080 he's going to do other things to try to destroy Zolensky, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.159 that's for sure. You know, I don't see this Monocca 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.320 Bagan Sadat Jimmy Carter moment the three of them putin 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.640 Trump and Zolensky, you know, shaking hands and raising their 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.359 you know, signing some peace sugreement. I think we're away 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:57.800 from that. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.520 Man just stepping back and for a moment. The idea 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:08.159 that Russia twenty thousand dead last month, a million over 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.760 a million casualties at this point, and tens of thousands 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.200 of Ukraine's that it's just shocking that this is going on, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:14.719 isn't it. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.280 Yeah, it just shows you the level of control he 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.000 has over the country, right Russia, with eleven time zones 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.599 and enclaves and all these different areas, and the fact 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.400 that he can control the message, and the fact that 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.800 there hasn't been revolution, there hasn't been anything that's come 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.000 from Russian mothers. I mean, that's kind of a Western 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.640 narrative to try to think that there's going to be 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.320 this internal Russian pressure to get Vladimir Putin to stop 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.000 that that's just not going to happen. He's able to 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.240 pick different Russian tribes still out and send them to 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.960 the battlefield into the meat grinder, fundamentally of their death, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.479 and then he'll continue to do that because they have 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.280 four times the amount of people that Ukraine does. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.080 Mike Lions military analyst is on the line. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.440 Mike, before we let you go, I've been reading a 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:04.560 fair amount about our incredible deficit in shipbuilding and capacity 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.400 for growth of our navies compared to China. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.920 What how dire is that situation in your mind? It's bad. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.160 I think we have time to catch up. The fact 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.840 that we recognize that it's a problem. I think this 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.320 administration does recognize it is it is an issue. The 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.480 question has always been the maritime capability of moving equipment 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.440 across from the United States to the where combat will 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.520 take place, which is why this pivot of the Pacific 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.280 is so important. China, though, has gotten well out in 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.080 front of the United States when it comes to docs 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.280 and it comes to the automation that they have and 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.880 containers and then the like. We just haven't prioritized it. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:49.000 But I think you'll see more emphasis as navies project power. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.120 This is both real politic and gun both diplomacy has 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.920 still is still very much in vogue and the way 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.680 the world works right now. So I'm concerned about it. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.600 I got son of the Navy, so I'm vested in 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.160 what happens here. But I do believe that we're moving 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:05.840 in the right direction. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.920 I add one more question. It's back to Ukraine. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.200 Sorry for the jumble order here, but one of the 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.480 great headlines from that battlefield is the use of drones 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.040 and automated tools and weapons and that sort of thing. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.480 What do you hear from our own defense establishment. How 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.280 hard are we working keeping up with that technology. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.960 It's incredible the amount of things that are taking place 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.880 in the AI drone space. I know at the Military 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:34.720 Academy of the complete focus now shifted towards drone technology, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.160 adding drones to all of the different training that they're doing. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.520 We're going to get to the point where a drone 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.079 will be part of a basic kit of an infantry soldier, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.800 aside from their weapon and canteen and the like. Wow, 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:53.440 the technology, Yeah, it's either from an intel gathering perspective, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.320 dropping grenade or whatever. There are so many things that 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.440 have changed warfare that we've learned, and we're going to 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.120 continue to move that forward. But I know at the 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.640 Military Academy in particular, there's so much focus plus working. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.520 I'm working with some a lot of startup companies that 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:14.240 are looking to create different missions for these different kinds 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.280 of drones and doing a lot of different things. And 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.240 you lay the artificial intelligence over that. You know, we're 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.200 not there yet where they're going to determine the targets. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.199 But you know, the things about the drones and and 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.160 the AI is that you know it can hover forever, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.600 it can take a lot of time, and can be 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.520 selective on targets, and it's really changing the way that 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.679 the battlefield of commanders have to look at the battlefield. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.520 You ought to follow them on x at Major Mike Lyons. Mike, 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:40.400 always great to talk. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.400 Thanks so much for the insight, great great thanks for 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:43.800 having me. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:49.760 Thank you so Trump said this yesterday, Michael. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.680 With all of the wars. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.439 That I got involved, and we only have this one left. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.520 Of course, as I walk out. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.559 The door, they'll probably be a new one starting and 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.679 I'll get that stop too. But I this was going 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.480 to be one of the easier once it's actually one 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.400 of the most difficult. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:04.959 They're very complex. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.560 The next step would be for a trilateral meeting and 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.600 that will be worked out, and I just look forward 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.120 to working and having a great result. 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.720 Okay, I didn't say what the thing says here, but anyway, 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.359 Trump says Putin agreed to accept security guarantees. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.880 What I just don't believe. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.800 That, and I don't understand why Trump believes it, or 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.000 if Trump believes it. Maybe he's just going along for 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.560 now to see if Trump, if Putin backs that up 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:34.840 or not. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:40.000 But the presumptive clothes he accepted some security guarantees, so 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.400 I'm sure he'll accept. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.439 These security guarantees. But I heard this on Friday, and 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.640 I forgot to mention it yesterday. I think this is huge. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.480 Leon Panetto was on one of the shows I think 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.199 on CNN. He's been one of my favorite Democrats my 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.840 whole life, and he was Obama's sect deaf and CIA director. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.120 He said, I was happy that there was not a ceasefire. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.040 Ceasefires are where borders have been drawn all around the world. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.880 You have a ceasefire, the border's frozen. You never get 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.720 that land back. If Ukraine wants any chance of getting 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.360 any land back, or wants different borders than what they 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.760 are now you do not want a ceasefire, and I 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.600 haven't heard anybody else say that, but that's clearly true. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.280 Well, the problem is that Russia is on the front foot. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.000 So I could see Ukraine saying, yeah, let's freeze them 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.880 now before we lose those four critical defensive cities in 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.959 the east. But why would Russia agree to that? Because 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.520 they don't want to spend all those lives machine gun fodder. No, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.080 they're spending them Willy Nelly. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.120 Yeah, but the idea that the borders get locked in 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.559 place on a ceasefire, I didn't hear anybody else bring 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.120 up the entire weekend other than Leon Panetta, and that 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:50.440 is what happens lots of times see Korea. How does 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:55.240 that differ though from a more extensive peace settlement might 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.920 have better borders, I guess yeah. You can argue over 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.360 where the border is going to be. You do the 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.400 ceasefire and it just gets locked there. All the troops 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.520 get lined lined up, you know, to force the ceasefire, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.280 and he just you never move the borders again. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.000 So read a great piece about US Russian relations that 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:19.560 mentioned the big Armenian Azerbaijani agreement the other day that 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:20.880 I thought, Oh, that's nice. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.679 They're not killing each other. That was a major blow 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.040 to Putin. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:25.840 Didn't know that. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.319 Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.400 The drive by inch deep analysis of Trump's foreign policy 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.720 misses a lot, and Trump makes me nuts. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.720 But there's a lot going on, man. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.880 There is some AI therapy stories out there that we 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:45.640 should discuss. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.200 That's it. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.599 It's an own interesting realm and world. You should be 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.520 aware of this, especially if your kids are doing it 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.520 on their own. I don't know how you stop them. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.840 But anyway, we got a whole bunch of things to 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:56.520 talk about today. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.600 Stay here. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.439 Drug maker Novo Nordisk is slashing prices for its popular 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.679 weight loss drugs. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:06.560 O Zepic and wogov. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.240 A month's supply of either drug is being offered for 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.840 four hundred and ninety nine dollars. That's half of the 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.880 prior list price. Patients can order the drugs from Novo 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.760 Nordisk or at participating pharmacies. 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Yeah. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.079 One of our neighbors is this and they're pretty happy 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.600 with it. I haven't talked to them a lot about it. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:56.160 Were they were they pretty overweight or just mildly overweight? 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.800 Oh, let's see. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.120 I'm thinking of a couple of people uncomfortably so. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.520 Because originally it was for the profoundly obese, and I 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.679 feel like it's been getting moving. The line has been moving. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.520 Of course, there's a lot of money to be made, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.200 The line is moving more toward you know, just not 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.800 quite where I want to be right well, and a 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.600 lot of health problems to be avoided too. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 That's you know, some of the standards for what's obesity 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:27.120 and what's overweight they seem crazy until you become aware 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.920 of all, Right, how overweight. Do I need to be 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.760 to have an increased risk of colon cancer, say, or 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.960 heart disease or whatever. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.360 And it's not. You don't need to be enormous. No, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:42.720 I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a drug that 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.280 people I mean, like blood pressure medicine. I mean, it's 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.440 just something lots and lots of people take at a 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.320 certain point in their lives because you're I don't know, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.320 twenty pounds heavier than you want to be as opposed 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:54.520 to two hundred pounds. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.840 Yeah, I hope they can dial it in a little 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.840 bit better because there are significant sound sound effects side effects, 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.840 but that's a sound effect. A side effect is when 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.960 you take a drug and. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:10.160 Anyway. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.600 But I'm sure they'll improve it as time goes by. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.000 I mean, it is such an enormous no pun intended, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.840 uh market. I mean, if the pharmaceutical companies are enthusiastic 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:26.000 about anything, it's finding better and more comfortable weight loss drugs. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.040 So what what's the side effect that gets your attention 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.480 the most? I haven't looked into this. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.160 Stuff much, so, Ah, nausea is a big deal life 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:37.240 for some people. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.760 Like all the time nausea? 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:44.840 Yeah, serious, serious, feeling terrible vomity, intestinal problems. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:45.640 That's no good. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.600 Yeah, yeah, I don't remember. I read a list at 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:50.320 one point there and. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.479 There are spontaneous and uncontrollable bomb movements. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.400 Oh boy, you don't want that really, I mean, you 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.960 got a lifestyle it's very different than mine. Well right, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.240 and there are some like serious life threatening side effects too, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.560 but a very small percentage. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.240 What what lifestyle would lend itself to spontaneous, uncontrollable bowel movements. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:15.600 Maybe you're like an isolated farmer somewhere in a you're thinking, well, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.480 another pair of breeches into the wash. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.400 Oh, I mean it's hard to picture. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.560 I don't know many, but the price is half now 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.280 that is something, okay, that moves it into the range 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.280 for a lot more people. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.800 Yeah, I would say, and could you know, save a 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.760 lot of lives. Of course, you have to stick with it. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.640 You can't go back to eating like a horse. You know, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.960 it's just a shame as somewhat disciplined. Same as blood 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.440 pressure medicine. That's it's going to be like that or 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.480 statn's maybe even better example, the cholesterol medications that you 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.920 know a huge percentage of people are on Anyway, it's 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.240 a very very important anniversary today, and I want to 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:56.520 pay tribute to the thing. I'm trying to figure out 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.320 how to without explaining what it is. One of the best, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.760 most important of all time was released on today's date, okay, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:03.320 and I want. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.200 To salute it and the Bible. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.560 No, no, it didn't actually have a formal release date. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.119 Jazz mind conal Trivia. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.879 It was mine, No, not mine, comp Michael, stay with Us, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:19.320 Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.960 So later this year, MSNBC will become MS now. They 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.440 say the new acronym means my source for news, opinion 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.960 and the world, but others believe it stands for miserable 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:33.919 No One. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:44.159 Watches all right, that fits softly well, miserab bless no 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.920 One watches. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.280 That's pretty good. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.480 On the other end of the worth looking into scale, 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.720 it was eighty years ago today. In nineteen forty five, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:05.640 George Orwell's Animal Farm was released, which is worth discussing 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.879 on a number of different levels, including the fact that 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.240 Orwell had written several things prior to it which were 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.480 not very good and was really struggling as a writer, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:24.120 and it just his projects didn't come together quite right, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.680 and it would have been very easy to give up. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:32.920 I mean, he's rightfully worshiped for his prescient, you know, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:37.119 and insightful descriptions of totalitarianism and how it works and 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.600 how it progresses inch by inch and stuff like that. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.960 But hell, he's a testament to hanging in there and 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.320 you know, working hard. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:44.760 Anyway. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.920 So I came across this threat of comment on Animal Farm, which, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.120 if you haven't read it since high school, read it again. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.720 I try to read it every couple of years. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.440 It's about talking pigs, right, well, quite a few talking animals. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.520 Jack. It's practically a Disney film. It's just wonderful. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.440 So read it to your three years kind of a 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.400 Charlotte Web like, Yes, unless your three year old likes 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.880 mass executions, don't read them Animal Farm anyway. So this, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:18.359 this author has trotted out ten truths from Animal Farm, 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.119 or well warned us to never forget. And the first 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:27.040 is revolution contains the seeds of its own corruption. Power 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.720 corrupts ABC one, two three, need not dwell on that 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:37.240 power corrupts incrementally through small compromises, and he gives examples 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.439 from the book. And the first small inequality sets a 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.280 precedent that escalates step by step to mass executions and 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.600 Napoleon the Pig becoming an absolute dictator. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.520 Spoiler alert, So spoiler. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.879 Alert on an eighty year old book that seems to 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.600 be true. I guess that's why you don't give an 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.040 inge huh on a variety of things. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:04.200 Well, right, yeah, yeah, corruption tends to grow by inches, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.440 not by you know, yards or miles. They get better 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.000 as they go. Interestingly, enough, point number three is language 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.200 becomes a weapon to control reality itself. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.840 We've lived that situation for the past five years or more. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.119 Yeah, folks, we probably don't need to expand on that notion, 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.119 but if there, if I could boil down, you know, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.119 I've got a list of roughly one hundred and forty 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.040 four g hods at this point. But number one, I think, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:38.480 honestly is to help people understand how when they tell 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.880 you what words to use and start changing those words 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.800 and demanding that you use their words, not the words 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:46.800 you've always used. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:48.520 That's two things. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.639 Number One, they're trying to pervert meaning, and therefore, you 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:58.200