Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: So they're not going to be a part of NATO.
Speaker 3: But we've got the European nations and they'll frontload it,
Speaker 3: and they'll have some of them France and Germany, a
Speaker 3: couple of them UK. They want to have, you know,
Speaker 3: boots on the ground, not not in. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's going to be a problem, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I think I think Putin is tired of it.
Speaker 2: I think they're all tired of it. But you never know.
Speaker 3: We're going to find out about President Putin in the
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks that I can tell you, and
Speaker 3: we're going to see where it all goes. It's possible
Speaker 3: that he doesn't want to make a deal.
Speaker 4: That Vladimir Putin is going to continue to commit war crimes,
Speaker 4: that he has as a significant military force, that he
Speaker 4: needs to be stopped, and that he is in every
Speaker 4: sense I'll use a nautical term here, putting a shot
Speaker 4: across the bow the president of the United States. We
Speaker 4: had to be mindful of that and respond to it
Speaker 4: with real force and strength.
Speaker 1: That's James Stravitas on CNN, former NATO commander, and he
Speaker 1: and Trump someone in line there that Putin may just
Speaker 1: want to keep prosecuting this war.
Speaker 2: Now. As to boots on the.
Speaker 1: Ground and all that sort of stuff, Trump offered up
Speaker 1: some security guarantees yesterday, including saying the US will have
Speaker 1: the back, and wanted to clear that up today apparently
Speaker 1: because just moments ago he said, you have my assurance
Speaker 1: no US boots on the ground in Ukraine. So he
Speaker 1: has definitively ruled that out. Well, let's discuss all of
Speaker 1: this with analyst Mike Allons, who, among his many experiences,
Speaker 1: does an aid to camp to a general officer in
Speaker 1: NATO Command back in the day. Mike, as we started
Speaker 1: the show, first of all, greetings, is always good to talk.
Speaker 5: How are you hey, guys, great to be back with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 6: So we started the show today with a discussion of Okay,
Speaker 6: in spite of the amazing pictures from the White House
Speaker 6: and all of the diplomacy and the meetings, and it
Speaker 6: was really quite something.
Speaker 2: Now comes the hard part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, for sure, this is probably the beginning of
Speaker 5: the beginning if you're looking for some kind of analogy here,
Speaker 5: and the hard part is going to be getting Russian
Speaker 5: negotiators sit to sit down with Ukraine negotiators as well
Speaker 5: as the United States here trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: to redraw that map. I think Zelenski has come to
Speaker 5: the conclusion that he's going to lose territory, and the
Speaker 5: Russia does already occupy. They've took it from a military perspective,
Speaker 5: so they've got to figure out what that is.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: If the Ukraine negotiators or the team that they have
Speaker 5: a side doesn't think he's going to get that through
Speaker 5: his Congress or his his government, then that this is
Speaker 5: all or not because he didn't have this power to
Speaker 5: just give land away on Ukraine. So there's definitely a
Speaker 5: hard part here. You saw the German chances of trying
Speaker 5: to get a ceasefire because you wake up this morning
Speaker 5: and Russia continues to attack civilian targets inside Ukraine, and frankly,
Speaker 5: I still don't think there's enough leverage at being put
Speaker 5: on Latimer Putin to want to stop this anytime soon.
Speaker 5: So I think we've got a waste to go.
Speaker 1: So all the talk of security guarantees if Trump or
Speaker 1: if Putin would agree to some sort of deal, the
Speaker 1: security guarantees, British troops on the ground, French troops on
Speaker 1: the ground, and then a backup of the United States.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that so one of Putin's red lines is
Speaker 1: no NATO guarantees, and so Trump's getting around that by okay,
Speaker 1: we'll have different We'll have some of the European countries
Speaker 1: that are in NATO and have a guarantee with them.
Speaker 1: But what does that all look like to you? And
Speaker 1: how easily could we get pulled into the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we'll still provide air cover, air defense systems,
Speaker 5: it will still be involved with the security guarantee, but
Speaker 5: just the boots on the ground is where that thing
Speaker 5: could get, you know, sideways. Quick looking for like a
Speaker 5: historical analysis, you'd go back to the date and the
Speaker 5: courts in Bonsi and Serbia when the United States did
Speaker 5: put boots on the ground inside that country. But they
Speaker 5: brought a lot of combat power to the battlefield. And
Speaker 5: I do remember some conversation taking place between the general
Speaker 5: that ran it and Melosovich himself saying, if you even
Speaker 5: look sideways at when any one of our soldiers were
Speaker 5: going to come and destroy all of you. So the
Speaker 5: question is the security guarantee is greatest is what combat
Speaker 5: power will they bring to the battlefield. You know, twenty
Speaker 5: to thirty thousand troops of French and British troops are
Speaker 5: going to need logistical support and they're going to have
Speaker 5: to be enough of a threat that would keep Russia
Speaker 5: at bay. So again, a lot of it has to
Speaker 5: be blushed out when it comes to what that security
Speaker 5: agreement looks like.
Speaker 1: And rewinding just a bit back to the topic of
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. Given the reality on the battlefield right now
Speaker 1: and his goals, how much incentive do you think he
Speaker 1: has to actually negotiate in a serious way.
Speaker 5: I don't think he has much yet, and I think
Speaker 5: that we should have already put the sanctions on. And
Speaker 5: I think the Biden administration wasted all of their time.
Speaker 5: And you know, he is longer, he could kind of
Speaker 5: let this go. It makes he thinks, it makes Zelensky
Speaker 5: look weak, and eventually his goal was to get rid
Speaker 5: of him. He's looking for a win here. He'll he'll
Speaker 5: take the win being the land that he's captured, let's
Speaker 5: say inside Ukraine. He didn't get the whole country, but
Speaker 5: he's going to do other things to try to destroy Zolensky,
Speaker 5: that's for sure. You know, I don't see this Monocca
Speaker 5: Bagan Sadat Jimmy Carter moment the three of them putin
Speaker 5: Trump and Zolensky, you know, shaking hands and raising their
Speaker 5: you know, signing some peace sugreement. I think we're away
Speaker 5: from that.
Speaker 1: Man just stepping back and for a moment. The idea
Speaker 1: that Russia twenty thousand dead last month, a million over
Speaker 1: a million casualties at this point, and tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of Ukraine's that it's just shocking that this is going on,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just shows you the level of control he
Speaker 5: has over the country, right Russia, with eleven time zones
Speaker 5: and enclaves and all these different areas, and the fact
Speaker 5: that he can control the message, and the fact that
Speaker 5: there hasn't been revolution, there hasn't been anything that's come
Speaker 5: from Russian mothers. I mean, that's kind of a Western
Speaker 5: narrative to try to think that there's going to be
Speaker 5: this internal Russian pressure to get Vladimir Putin to stop
Speaker 5: that that's just not going to happen. He's able to
Speaker 5: pick different Russian tribes still out and send them to
Speaker 5: the battlefield into the meat grinder, fundamentally of their death,
Speaker 5: and then he'll continue to do that because they have
Speaker 5: four times the amount of people that Ukraine does.
Speaker 2: Mike Lions military analyst is on the line.
Speaker 6: Mike, before we let you go, I've been reading a
Speaker 6: fair amount about our incredible deficit in shipbuilding and capacity
Speaker 6: for growth of our navies compared to China.
Speaker 2: What how dire is that situation in your mind? It's bad.
Speaker 5: I think we have time to catch up. The fact
Speaker 5: that we recognize that it's a problem. I think this
Speaker 5: administration does recognize it is it is an issue. The
Speaker 5: question has always been the maritime capability of moving equipment
Speaker 5: across from the United States to the where combat will
Speaker 5: take place, which is why this pivot of the Pacific
Speaker 5: is so important. China, though, has gotten well out in
Speaker 5: front of the United States when it comes to docs
Speaker 5: and it comes to the automation that they have and
Speaker 5: containers and then the like. We just haven't prioritized it.
Speaker 5: But I think you'll see more emphasis as navies project power.
Speaker 5: This is both real politic and gun both diplomacy has
Speaker 5: still is still very much in vogue and the way
Speaker 5: the world works right now. So I'm concerned about it.
Speaker 5: I got son of the Navy, so I'm vested in
Speaker 5: what happens here. But I do believe that we're moving
Speaker 5: in the right direction.
Speaker 2: I add one more question. It's back to Ukraine.
Speaker 6: Sorry for the jumble order here, but one of the
Speaker 6: great headlines from that battlefield is the use of drones
Speaker 6: and automated tools and weapons and that sort of thing.
Speaker 6: What do you hear from our own defense establishment. How
Speaker 6: hard are we working keeping up with that technology.
Speaker 5: It's incredible the amount of things that are taking place
Speaker 5: in the AI drone space. I know at the Military
Speaker 5: Academy of the complete focus now shifted towards drone technology,
Speaker 5: adding drones to all of the different training that they're doing.
Speaker 5: We're going to get to the point where a drone
Speaker 5: will be part of a basic kit of an infantry soldier,
Speaker 5: aside from their weapon and canteen and the like. Wow,
Speaker 5: the technology, Yeah, it's either from an intel gathering perspective,
Speaker 5: dropping grenade or whatever. There are so many things that
Speaker 5: have changed warfare that we've learned, and we're going to
Speaker 5: continue to move that forward. But I know at the
Speaker 5: Military Academy in particular, there's so much focus plus working.
Speaker 5: I'm working with some a lot of startup companies that
Speaker 5: are looking to create different missions for these different kinds
Speaker 5: of drones and doing a lot of different things. And
Speaker 5: you lay the artificial intelligence over that. You know, we're
Speaker 5: not there yet where they're going to determine the targets.
Speaker 5: But you know, the things about the drones and and
Speaker 5: the AI is that you know it can hover forever,
Speaker 5: it can take a lot of time, and can be
Speaker 5: selective on targets, and it's really changing the way that
Speaker 5: the battlefield of commanders have to look at the battlefield.
Speaker 6: You ought to follow them on x at Major Mike Lyons. Mike,
Speaker 6: always great to talk.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the insight, great great thanks for
Speaker 2: having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so Trump said this yesterday, Michael.
Speaker 2: With all of the wars.
Speaker 3: That I got involved, and we only have this one left.
Speaker 2: Of course, as I walk out.
Speaker 3: The door, they'll probably be a new one starting and
Speaker 3: I'll get that stop too. But I this was going
Speaker 3: to be one of the easier once it's actually one
Speaker 3: of the most difficult.
Speaker 2: They're very complex.
Speaker 3: The next step would be for a trilateral meeting and
Speaker 3: that will be worked out, and I just look forward
Speaker 3: to working and having a great result.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't say what the thing says here, but anyway,
Speaker 1: Trump says Putin agreed to accept security guarantees.
Speaker 2: What I just don't believe.
Speaker 1: That, and I don't understand why Trump believes it, or
Speaker 1: if Trump believes it. Maybe he's just going along for
Speaker 1: now to see if Trump, if Putin backs that up
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 6: But the presumptive clothes he accepted some security guarantees, so
Speaker 6: I'm sure he'll accept.
Speaker 1: These security guarantees. But I heard this on Friday, and
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention it yesterday. I think this is huge.
Speaker 1: Leon Panetto was on one of the shows I think
Speaker 1: on CNN. He's been one of my favorite Democrats my
Speaker 1: whole life, and he was Obama's sect deaf and CIA director.
Speaker 1: He said, I was happy that there was not a ceasefire.
Speaker 1: Ceasefires are where borders have been drawn all around the world.
Speaker 1: You have a ceasefire, the border's frozen. You never get
Speaker 1: that land back. If Ukraine wants any chance of getting
Speaker 1: any land back, or wants different borders than what they
Speaker 1: are now you do not want a ceasefire, and I
Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody else say that, but that's clearly true.
Speaker 6: Well, the problem is that Russia is on the front foot.
Speaker 6: So I could see Ukraine saying, yeah, let's freeze them
Speaker 6: now before we lose those four critical defensive cities in
Speaker 6: the east. But why would Russia agree to that? Because
Speaker 6: they don't want to spend all those lives machine gun fodder. No,
Speaker 6: they're spending them Willy Nelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the idea that the borders get locked in
Speaker 1: place on a ceasefire, I didn't hear anybody else bring
Speaker 1: up the entire weekend other than Leon Panetta, and that
Speaker 1: is what happens lots of times see Korea. How does
Speaker 1: that differ though from a more extensive peace settlement might
Speaker 1: have better borders, I guess yeah. You can argue over
Speaker 1: where the border is going to be. You do the
Speaker 1: ceasefire and it just gets locked there. All the troops
Speaker 1: get lined lined up, you know, to force the ceasefire,
Speaker 1: and he just you never move the borders again.
Speaker 6: So read a great piece about US Russian relations that
Speaker 6: mentioned the big Armenian Azerbaijani agreement the other day that
Speaker 6: I thought, Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 2: They're not killing each other. That was a major blow
Speaker 2: to Putin.
Speaker 1: Didn't know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit.
Speaker 6: The drive by inch deep analysis of Trump's foreign policy
Speaker 6: misses a lot, and Trump makes me nuts.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot going on, man.
Speaker 1: There is some AI therapy stories out there that we
Speaker 1: should discuss.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It's an own interesting realm and world. You should be
Speaker 1: aware of this, especially if your kids are doing it
Speaker 1: on their own. I don't know how you stop them.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we got a whole bunch of things to
Speaker 1: talk about today.
Speaker 2: Stay here.
Speaker 7: Drug maker Novo Nordisk is slashing prices for its popular
Speaker 7: weight loss drugs.
Speaker 2: O Zepic and wogov.
Speaker 7: A month's supply of either drug is being offered for
Speaker 7: four hundred and ninety nine dollars. That's half of the
Speaker 7: prior list price. Patients can order the drugs from Novo
Speaker 7: Nordisk or at participating pharmacies. The company hoping to compete
Speaker 7: with cheaper compounding pharmacies.
Speaker 2: So what price did they say?
Speaker 1: They're four ninety nine, four hundred ninety nine and it
Speaker 1: used to be one thousand, So it's down to five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, and who knows where it'll be in a
Speaker 1: couple of years. I wonder if, like practically everybody is
Speaker 1: going to be on some dosage of that stuff soon,
Speaker 1: or maybe half of people anyway.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think that's a crazy notion. Wouldn't surprise
Speaker 6: me at all.
Speaker 1: Huh And what did you have? Do you know people
Speaker 1: that are doing it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh really, not on a handful. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of our neighbors is this and they're pretty happy
Speaker 1: with it. I haven't talked to them a lot about it.
Speaker 1: Were they were they pretty overweight or just mildly overweight?
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking of a couple of people uncomfortably so.
Speaker 1: Because originally it was for the profoundly obese, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it's been getting moving. The line has been moving.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a lot of money to be made,
Speaker 1: The line is moving more toward you know, just not
Speaker 1: quite where I want to be right well, and a
Speaker 1: lot of health problems to be avoided too.
Speaker 6: That's you know, some of the standards for what's obesity
Speaker 6: and what's overweight they seem crazy until you become aware
Speaker 6: of all, Right, how overweight. Do I need to be
Speaker 6: to have an increased risk of colon cancer, say, or
Speaker 6: heart disease or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's not. You don't need to be enormous. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a drug that
Speaker 1: people I mean, like blood pressure medicine. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just something lots and lots of people take at a
Speaker 1: certain point in their lives because you're I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty pounds heavier than you want to be as opposed
Speaker 1: to two hundred pounds.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope they can dial it in a little
Speaker 6: bit better because there are significant sound sound effects side effects,
Speaker 6: but that's a sound effect. A side effect is when
Speaker 6: you take a drug and.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 6: But I'm sure they'll improve it as time goes by.
Speaker 6: I mean, it is such an enormous no pun intended,
Speaker 6: uh market. I mean, if the pharmaceutical companies are enthusiastic
Speaker 6: about anything, it's finding better and more comfortable weight loss drugs.
Speaker 1: So what what's the side effect that gets your attention
Speaker 1: the most? I haven't looked into this.
Speaker 6: Stuff much, so, Ah, nausea is a big deal life
Speaker 6: for some people.
Speaker 2: Like all the time nausea?
Speaker 6: Yeah, serious, serious, feeling terrible vomity, intestinal problems.
Speaker 1: That's no good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember. I read a list at
Speaker 6: one point there and.
Speaker 1: There are spontaneous and uncontrollable bomb movements.
Speaker 6: Oh boy, you don't want that really, I mean, you
Speaker 6: got a lifestyle it's very different than mine. Well right,
Speaker 6: and there are some like serious life threatening side effects too,
Speaker 6: but a very small percentage.
Speaker 1: What what lifestyle would lend itself to spontaneous, uncontrollable bowel movements.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're like an isolated farmer somewhere in a you're thinking, well,
Speaker 1: another pair of breeches into the wash.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's hard to picture.
Speaker 1: I don't know many, but the price is half now
Speaker 1: that is something, okay, that moves it into the range
Speaker 1: for a lot more people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, and could you know, save a
Speaker 6: lot of lives. Of course, you have to stick with it.
Speaker 6: You can't go back to eating like a horse. You know,
Speaker 6: it's just a shame as somewhat disciplined. Same as blood
Speaker 6: pressure medicine. That's it's going to be like that or
Speaker 6: statn's maybe even better example, the cholesterol medications that you
Speaker 6: know a huge percentage of people are on Anyway, it's
Speaker 6: a very very important anniversary today, and I want to
Speaker 6: pay tribute to the thing. I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 6: how to without explaining what it is. One of the best,
Speaker 6: most important of all time was released on today's date, okay,
Speaker 6: and I want.
Speaker 2: To salute it and the Bible.
Speaker 6: No, no, it didn't actually have a formal release date.
Speaker 2: Jazz mind conal Trivia.
Speaker 6: It was mine, No, not mine, comp Michael, stay with Us,
Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8: So later this year, MSNBC will become MS now. They
Speaker 8: say the new acronym means my source for news, opinion
Speaker 8: and the world, but others believe it stands for miserable
Speaker 8: No One.
Speaker 1: Watches all right, that fits softly well, miserab bless no
Speaker 1: One watches.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 6: On the other end of the worth looking into scale,
Speaker 6: it was eighty years ago today. In nineteen forty five,
Speaker 6: George Orwell's Animal Farm was released, which is worth discussing
Speaker 6: on a number of different levels, including the fact that
Speaker 6: Orwell had written several things prior to it which were
Speaker 6: not very good and was really struggling as a writer,
Speaker 6: and it just his projects didn't come together quite right,
Speaker 6: and it would have been very easy to give up.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's rightfully worshiped for his prescient, you know,
Speaker 6: and insightful descriptions of totalitarianism and how it works and
Speaker 6: how it progresses inch by inch and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But hell, he's a testament to hanging in there and
Speaker 6: you know, working hard.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 6: So I came across this threat of comment on Animal Farm, which,
Speaker 6: if you haven't read it since high school, read it again.
Speaker 2: I try to read it every couple of years.
Speaker 1: It's about talking pigs, right, well, quite a few talking animals.
Speaker 2: Jack. It's practically a Disney film. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 6: So read it to your three years kind of a
Speaker 6: Charlotte Web like, Yes, unless your three year old likes
Speaker 6: mass executions, don't read them Animal Farm anyway. So this,
Speaker 6: this author has trotted out ten truths from Animal Farm,
Speaker 6: or well warned us to never forget. And the first
Speaker 6: is revolution contains the seeds of its own corruption. Power
Speaker 6: corrupts ABC one, two three, need not dwell on that
Speaker 6: power corrupts incrementally through small compromises, and he gives examples
Speaker 6: from the book. And the first small inequality sets a
Speaker 6: precedent that escalates step by step to mass executions and
Speaker 6: Napoleon the Pig becoming an absolute dictator.
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, So spoiler.
Speaker 1: Alert on an eighty year old book that seems to
Speaker 1: be true. I guess that's why you don't give an
Speaker 1: inge huh on a variety of things.
Speaker 6: Well, right, yeah, yeah, corruption tends to grow by inches,
Speaker 6: not by you know, yards or miles. They get better
Speaker 6: as they go. Interestingly, enough, point number three is language
Speaker 6: becomes a weapon to control reality itself.
Speaker 1: We've lived that situation for the past five years or more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, folks, we probably don't need to expand on that notion,
Speaker 6: but if there, if I could boil down, you know,
Speaker 6: I've got a list of roughly one hundred and forty
Speaker 6: four g hods at this point. But number one, I think,
Speaker 6: honestly is to help people understand how when they tell
Speaker 6: you what words to use and start changing those words
Speaker 6: and demanding that you use their words, not the words
Speaker 6: you've always used.
Speaker 2: That's two things.
Speaker 6: Number One, they're trying to pervert meaning, and therefore, you
Speaker 6: know when the argument by just you know, cloudying the waters,
Speaker 6: clouding the waters. But secondly, they're demanding an act of
Speaker 6: submission from you, and it's an important one, because you know,
Speaker 6: without free speech, may we be led like dumb animals
Speaker 6: to the slaughter?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, exactly. But sometimes sometimes it's definitely that. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just it. It helps persuade people. Pro choice sure
Speaker 1: is going to persuade more people than pro abortion right.
Speaker 1: Gender affirming care settles the argument. Wait a minute, it's
Speaker 1: not a sex change operation or an experiment on a
Speaker 1: confused child. It's affirming the gender that they are. How
Speaker 1: can you disagree with that? I know the left wins
Speaker 1: that battle all the time. I mean, all the conservatives,
Speaker 1: Fox News, everybody always adopts the language of the left always.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I actually semi regularly badger Fox News to stop using
Speaker 6: the term gender affirming care and it and back to
Speaker 6: language becoming weapon of control reality itself. It eventually culminates
Speaker 6: in the absurd contradiction all animals are equal, but some
Speaker 6: animals are more equal than others. Ignorance is manufactured to
Speaker 6: enable oppression. Napoleon the pig raises puppies in isolation to
Speaker 6: become as vicious guard dogs, will deliberately keeping other animals
Speaker 6: illiterate so they cannot read the altered commandments. Am I
Speaker 6: such a conspiracy theorist that I think, I mean we,
Speaker 6: I think most of us have agreed that government schools
Speaker 6: in America now are indoctrinating kids into postmodernism, neo Marxism, wokeism.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: Are they deliberately not teaching the kids to be capable
Speaker 6: and self reliant? Or is that kind of an after effect?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that, But a good
Speaker 1: example would be what the Church at its worst did
Speaker 1: up until the you know, Protestant Reformation. You weren't in
Speaker 1: on the ability to read and determine for yourself what
Speaker 1: was going on?
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 6: More key takeaways from Animal Farm on its Birthday. Historical
Speaker 6: memory can be erased and rewritten. That's being orwell read
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four. Oh yeah, with Big brother in all
Speaker 6: and Big Brothers watching, No read it, you have to
Speaker 6: read it again. The idea of erasing historical memory perverting
Speaker 6: a people's own history so they don't know who they are,
Speaker 6: and then you can supply them an alternate history that
Speaker 6: puts them where you want them to be.
Speaker 1: They're not accidentally Howard zenning our history in schools.
Speaker 2: It's a deliberate.
Speaker 1: Strategy sixteen nineteen Project Oh Yeah, yeah, exactly. That was
Speaker 1: not inaccurate because they moved too fast or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was deliberately.
Speaker 6: Designed to make Western civil ashamed of itself and anxious
Speaker 6: for its own change. Anyway I could elaborate, but erasing
Speaker 6: history is enormously unpopular, is enormously important, brother.
Speaker 1: Uh point six. Propaganda is more powerful than physical force. Hmmm, squealer.
Speaker 1: The pig constantly threatens that Jones will come back if
Speaker 1: animals don't obey, while presenting false statistics showing increased food production,
Speaker 1: even as the animals starve.
Speaker 6: They believe their suffering serves the greater good. Just bad information. Interesting,
Speaker 6: scape and those pigs didn't have the Internet. That's the
Speaker 6: problem we got. They didn't have as much misinformation. Oh
Speaker 6: my gosh. That's a good point. Scapegoating enables political manipulation.
Speaker 6: That's kind of self explanatory. I think if you blame, say,
Speaker 6: I don't know, white people or Jews or black people
Speaker 6: or whatever, for the ills of.
Speaker 2: Society, you don't have to take responsibility for them and
Speaker 2: fix them.
Speaker 1: I'm right.
Speaker 6: Fear and violence reshaped consciousness itself. The uh you know,
Speaker 6: the pig regime created so much terror that even questioning
Speaker 6: orders became unthinkable. Again, that speaks for itself. Now, this
Speaker 6: is one of the parts I really wanted to get to.
Speaker 6: Mass conformity is engineered, not natural. This relates directly to
Speaker 6: what we've been talking about the last couple of days,
Speaker 6: and that's a preference falsification, where everybody starts to believe
Speaker 6: everybody believes something other than what they believe.
Speaker 2: It's a deliberate strategy.
Speaker 6: And the sheep in animal farm are trained to mindlessly
Speaker 6: chant slogans and drown out any descent by bleating on
Speaker 6: for minutes on end, and they easily switch from four
Speaker 6: legs good, two legs bad, to four legs good, two
Speaker 6: legs better when the pigs start walking upright. That's what
Speaker 6: they're trying to do to the kids too, teach the
Speaker 6: to mindlessly bleat. You can choose your gender. White people
Speaker 6: a white supremacy. We need to eliminate whiteness. They have
Speaker 6: no idea what they're talking about. They're the useful idiots.
Speaker 1: The term you hear sometimes and Jack will semi frequently
Speaker 1: have the conversation, do you like the college administrators and the.
Speaker 2: Teachers, the school teachers and all, do they know.
Speaker 6: That they're neo Marxist postmodernists trying to tear down Western civilization.
Speaker 6: And the answer is some of them do, but a
Speaker 6: lot of them are just the sheep prom Animal Farm.
Speaker 6: They're bleating. Four legs good, two legs bad. And final point,
Speaker 6: the working classes. Loyalty becomes their exploitation. If you can
Speaker 6: get people tribal enough, they will let you get away
Speaker 6: with anything.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Read Animal Form.
Speaker 6: It's great, short, and it's got talking animals in it,
Speaker 6: so it's pretty much just like I don't know, Finding
Speaker 6: Nemo or or the Charlotte's Web, a lot like.
Speaker 1: That The Three Little Pigs. Again, it's more torture and murder,
Speaker 1: but very much like the Three Yeah. Worth point. Now
Speaker 1: both those books, nineteen eighty four and Animal Farm. You
Speaker 1: could read it in the afternoon if you really wanted to.
Speaker 2: Animal eighty four us.
Speaker 6: A little longer than that, but it's it's worth it,
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Speaker 6: You just looked up at the Twitter feed. Our friend
Speaker 6: Tim retweeted it. It's a video of how hedgehogs mate.
Speaker 2: For some reason, and the negative.
Speaker 1: In the delicate way in which the female hedgehog has
Speaker 1: to flatten her spines so that the male hedgehog can
Speaker 1: get up close enough to It's really fascinating if you
Speaker 1: but ardan appreciate it. On my list of things I
Speaker 1: thought I would see this morning, I got up. I
Speaker 1: wasn't hedgehogs mating. I didn't think that one thing I
Speaker 1: did think I would see or hear about. Lo boo boo.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to say about it. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to get the word on because apparently you need to
Speaker 1: say it or discuss it at least once a day
Speaker 1: during this current moment in time.
Speaker 2: Loo boo boo. There you go. Good. We checked that box.
Speaker 1: We checked the box, We got it on the air.
Speaker 1: I want to check this box. The whole AI therapist thing,
Speaker 1: which is troubling. An article in the New York Times
Speaker 1: the other day that you should probably be be aware
Speaker 1: about if you're a parent as you head into the
Speaker 1: school year, especially if you got teenage girls.
Speaker 2: I suppose, all right. Final note on the animal farm thing.
Speaker 1: The first comment under the thread the first time I
Speaker 1: saw it was there are echoes of that today.
Speaker 2: That's insightful.
Speaker 1: Oh that's some good ass right there.
Speaker 2: Well it's better not getting it, I suppose. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: there are echoes. Yes, okay, stay tuned.
Speaker 9: Canada usually one of our warmest neighbors and our second
Speaker 9: largest trading partner. So for the unforeseeable future, some of
Speaker 9: their products sold to the US will have to suffer
Speaker 9: the new thirty five percent tariff, the price for not
Speaker 9: giving in. We crossed the border and met Canadians who
Speaker 9: told us they won't even step foot in the United
Speaker 9: States even if the two countries eventually come to a
Speaker 9: new deal. It's become a movement here Elbows up. They
Speaker 9: call it elbows out, Elbows up, a phrase from the
Speaker 9: ice rink telling hockey players to raise their elbows and
Speaker 9: fight back, and it's become a rallying cry against America's tariffs.
Speaker 1: So I guess I get the whole the tariff thing.
Speaker 1: But we have anecdotal evidence from someone who is Canadian
Speaker 1: adjacent saying they're personally aware of Canadians that will not
Speaker 1: come into the United States because they're afraid of what
Speaker 1: will happen to them if they cross the border.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because the anti Canadian purge is going on, and
Speaker 6: the well, the Canadian confinement camps that have popped up here, what.
Speaker 1: And I love Canada?
Speaker 6: They mean crime or do they actually fear like Trump
Speaker 6: is rounding up Canadians.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, but I have a story from
Speaker 1: Geez twenty years ago, maybe Gladys many years ago, when
Speaker 1: I was traveling across Canada. I've done a fair amount
Speaker 1: of traveling in Canada. I really really like Canada. But
Speaker 1: I remember being in a bar up in Canada one
Speaker 1: time and sitting there with a couple of old Canadian
Speaker 1: dudes drinking probably Mulson whatever, and I mentioned I'm from
Speaker 1: the United States, and they said, oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you what's it like in that sort of thing? They
Speaker 1: hadn't been and we got on the topic and it
Speaker 1: became clear to me their impression of the United States
Speaker 1: was you're just dodging bullets the entire time you go
Speaker 1: anywhere in the United States, just walking down the street anywhere,
Speaker 1: it's just bullets frying everywhere, and NonStop crime, and and
Speaker 1: the guns and the shootings and the just oh, I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what that must be like. And I thought,
Speaker 1: how do you have such a I mean, yes, Chicago,
Speaker 1: they brought up Chicago. Chicago's you know, much more dangerous
Speaker 1: than where you lived here in rural Canada. But it's
Speaker 1: not like a death sentence to just show up in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of people do every day. It's one
Speaker 1: of the busiest airports in the world. I mean lots
Speaker 1: of people. So it's just it was interesting to me
Speaker 1: that they had such a exaggerated, warped view of how
Speaker 1: dangerous the United States was, And so maybe that's happening
Speaker 1: now with the immigration stuff.
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
Speaker 6: Well, you got the terraft thing, but the whole we're
Speaker 6: gonna annex you thing really pissed off Cannon.
Speaker 2: I get that, but really did it.
Speaker 6: In fact, it's decimating US booze and wine industries.
Speaker 1: Fully understand why you would not dig the United States
Speaker 1: talking about taking mule for his estate, but I don't
Speaker 1: understand why you would then be afraid to step foot
Speaker 1: in the United States. Being afraid to step foot in
Speaker 1: the United States is different than I won't go there
Speaker 1: out of disgust, and that's just.
Speaker 2: I just can't even imagine what that is.
Speaker 1: But anyway, right, yeah, I want to alert you to that.
Speaker 1: I the key to traveling anywhere is to ask somebody
Speaker 1: knowledgeable where should I not go. If you do that,
Speaker 1: you're going to be fine in most places.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always use the are there young women walking alone
Speaker 1: around here? Or they're like twenty one year old college
Speaker 1: girls walking down the street by themselves. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: good tip. Yeah, different topic. I just saw the backlash
Speaker 1: that is growing against the remodel of cracker barrels across
Speaker 1: the United States.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: As a big fan of cracker barrels nationwide, I am
Speaker 1: not happy to hear about this. I wasn't aware they're
Speaker 1: getting rid of the old timey look, the old timey
Speaker 1: cabin look, and going with a modern, sleek, brightly lit
Speaker 1: plastic booths sort of vibe as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: wicker and wood and I'm in a log cabin and
Speaker 1: in the eighteen eighties sort of thing that they had
Speaker 1: had forever, and a lot more a cracker vase than
Speaker 1: a cracker barrel. Are gonna kick the name? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but a fair amount of blowback from those of us.
Speaker 1: I'm probably on the older end. We did a cracker
Speaker 1: barrel and like the old timey look, boy o, boy o,
Speaker 1: boy that's a that's a gutsy thing to do when
Speaker 1: you're a business with a long time established anything and think,
Speaker 1: do we try to do we try to get the
Speaker 1: next generation by modernizing because perhaps young people aren't like
Speaker 1: as interested in the old timey cabin vibe. Or do
Speaker 1: we just stick with the tried and true. This is
Speaker 1: a you lose your job forever sort of decision if
Speaker 1: you're a CEO.
Speaker 2: And I just as.
Speaker 1: Hiring Dylan mulvaneous level. Yes, this is new coke. Perhaps, uh,
Speaker 1: there wasn't wrong with anything wrong with the old coke.
Speaker 1: And I just saw the CEO of Cracker Barrel up
Speaker 1: on the Early Show on CBS trying to explain herself
Speaker 1: to the blowback out there.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 6: I'm sure the changes will be pleasing to both our
Speaker 6: longtime customers and new customers. Were changing Cracker Barrel to
Speaker 6: kale Vas. Welcome to kale Vas, right, come on in.
Speaker 6: This is all I know.
Speaker 1: If I walk into one and I can't buy a
Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers' Greatest Hit CD right there at the front desk,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. That's why I'm there for the rebamcintire CDs.
Speaker 6: We'll have a drag queen to meet you at its
Speaker 6: door and escort you to your shiny modernistic table.
Speaker 2: We'll drag queen meet you at the door. This isn't
Speaker 2: crack the cracker barrel.
Speaker 1: I remember where's the little triangle thing where you move
Speaker 1: the pegs the DIEQ test right right now? I got
Speaker 1: some sort of which gender are you test? Remove the
Speaker 1: pigs right.
Speaker 2: And the answers to which everyone you want to.
Speaker 1: Wol crap and Dylan Bilbady will be the Cracker Barrels spokesman.
Speaker 1: I'm here for chicken fried straight shake, not gender bending madness.
Speaker 2: Wow oh boy.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of good clips, I think damned
Speaker 1: interesting clips out of that historic gathering at the White
Speaker 1: House yesterday, including some comic moments, some levity that happened
Speaker 1: about old Zelensky's suit, among other things. We can get
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