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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly Jongfast, and this is Fast Politics, where

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Speaker 1: we discuss the top political headlines with some of today's

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Speaker 1: best minds. And Donald Trump has given Natalie Harp and

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Speaker 1: three other aides a cash gift of $ 45. We have

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Speaker 1: such a great show for you today. The Jim Acosta

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Speaker 1: Show's Jim Acosta stops by to talk about Trump's aides

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Speaker 1: giving up on trying to persuade him to be normal.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to Representative Brendan Boyle about how the

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Speaker 1: Dems can fight back against an unpopular president. Plus, we

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Speaker 1: have a bonus. Very exciting. Congressional candidate and singer, Bobby

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Speaker 1: Polito about his tight race to flip a red district

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Speaker 1: in Texas's Rio Grande Valley. But first, the news.

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Speaker 2: Somali, New Hampshire had a primary last night. We now

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Speaker 2: have seen what seemed like the logical conclusions of what

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Speaker 2: was going to happen in this race has come through.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were getting a little scared that

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Speaker 2: some dark horse candidates.

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Speaker 3: Were going to pull ahead.

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Speaker 1: In New Hampshire?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some scare that the farther left candidate

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Speaker 2: I mean, this has turned out to be a more

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Speaker 2: of a Francesca Hong situation, if you ask me. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't have much faith in this.

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Speaker 1: OK, so it's going to be John Sununu versus Chris Pappas.

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Speaker 1: We are like, what, a week from early voting, two

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Speaker 1: weeks from early voting. But we're done. with the fucking

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Speaker 1: primaries thank you ladies and gentlemen new hampshire ends with

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Speaker 1: a whimper by confirming everything we thought we would happen

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Speaker 1: look here's a problem with this race and we should

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Speaker 1: talk about it for a minute sununu is popular this

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Speaker 1: is a democratic seat if this flips This is not good.

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people who listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast who care a lot about flipping the Senate.

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Speaker 1: And so I say to you, New Hampshire, not far away,

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Speaker 1: filled with persuadable voters. Drive up there, man. Go knock

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Speaker 1: on some doors. New Hampshire matters. It's a small state.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, this is a seat Democrats, a Senate

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Speaker 1: seat Democrats really need to hold up. Chris Pappas is

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Speaker 1: a totally reasonable candidate, member of Congress, used to hold

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Speaker 1: a congressional seat, has been on this podcast before, will

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Speaker 1: vote the way that is needed in order to pass

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Speaker 1: the legislation that is needed. And so I say to you,

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Speaker 1: Real important that Democrats get out here and vote for

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Speaker 1: Chris Pappas and against John Sununu Jr. You know, this guy,

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Speaker 1: he's just going to vote like a Republican. He's just

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Speaker 1: stamp them. And this is a moment where you really

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Speaker 1: need to have a referendum on the incumbent, who is

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Speaker 1: a complete and utter lunatic, even loonier than he was

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Speaker 1: 10 years ago, if that's possible. All of us have

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Speaker 1: gotten much, much older. And for that, we say, please,

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Speaker 1: let's not lose this seat, people.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know who was a loser, though?

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Speaker 2: Former Senator Scott Brown, who terrorized the political coverage for

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Speaker 2: two whole years until Elizabeth Warren unseated him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he can head to the casino now.

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Speaker 2: All right, Molly, let's talk about a bright subject, the

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Speaker 2: end of the world. So a bunch of by a bunch,

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Speaker 2: I mean, three anthropic engineers are blowing the whistle saying

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Speaker 2: The threats, they say that we have a 10 percent

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Speaker 2: that we had a thing we were talking about yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which is anyone who understood how to regulate tech. This

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Speaker 2: if there's any subject we are not taking seriously enough

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Speaker 2: right now, climate change and this are just about right there.

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Speaker 5: Equally.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, when I saw this yesterday, I

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Speaker 1: I completely forgot about AI killing us all. Jacob is

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Speaker 1: correct here. We do honestly believe AI could kill all humans.

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Speaker 1: Explanation point. I personally think it is less than 10%

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Speaker 1: within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best,

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Speaker 1: Why are we building something that could kill us all?

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Speaker 1: Because the Chinese, we think, are going to build it

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Speaker 1: if we don't. This is so stupid. There is clearly

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Speaker 2: I can tell you it's having a bunch of old

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Speaker 2: this in the past when we've tried to understand things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the idea that we have to just

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Speaker 2: So one of the things Trump is most known for

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Speaker 2: And 9-11, for good reason, is very sensitive. And when

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Speaker 2: And I think of yesterday when there was a stupid

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Speaker 2: It really strikes me that it's amazing what some people

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Speaker 1: So Trump basically said this whole thing that is not true.

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Speaker 1: It's demonstrably not true. We know it's not true. The

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Speaker 1: president is spiraling over a new cycle he created, which, again,

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Speaker 1: like this is the whole idea that Trump keeps creating

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Speaker 1: problems and then freaking out about problems he created. So basically,

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Speaker 1: Then he was again like this. He just making shit up.

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Speaker 3: Never see him do this.

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Speaker 1: Never, ever. Certainly never.

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Speaker 2: So Frederick Maryland is the latest to experience what it's

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Speaker 2: like when Stephen Miller's thugs ice come and you'll be

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Speaker 1: So they went to Frederick, Maryland, who knows why. And

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Speaker 1: every place where they go, when they go like this,

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Speaker 1: what happens is that people get really good at protesting.

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Speaker 1: So basically, agents swarmed multiple streets. They were trying to

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Speaker 1: There are two things that are so stupid about this.

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Speaker 1: One is they're chasing down people who, you know, the

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing that's so dysfunctional about it

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Speaker 1: the pushback is, you know, in some ways, Trump world

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Speaker 1: wants the pushback. because then they can say there's radical

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Speaker 1: it's nonsensical. This is all Stephen Miller stuff. This is

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Speaker 1: nobody wants this. We had Bobby Polito on the podcast today,

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Speaker 1: and Bobby talks about how even though he has a

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Speaker 1: not what they meant. Jim Acosta is the author of

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Speaker 1: The Substack, The Jim Acosta Show, and the New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestseller, The Enemy of the People, A Dangerous Time

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Speaker 1: to Tell the Truth in America. Jim Acosta.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Molly. Hello, hello.

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Speaker 1: Trump is alone. He's 80 years old. He's the most

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Speaker 1: powerful president we've ever had. And he's also perhaps the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot that could be said

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Speaker 3: He's the nuttiest. He's the craziest.

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Speaker 1: He's the wackiest.

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Speaker 3: He's the wackiest. He's the lyingest. I don't know. The

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Speaker 3: most dishonest. There's a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, though. Like, we went through two years of

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Speaker 1: his go to spot is like gluing gold fixtures on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this Axios story where they say, gosh, advisors, people

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Speaker 6: around him say they just can't get through to him.

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Speaker 3: He's just on his own now. I'm like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 3: What year is this? Is it 2017? Is it 2018?

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Speaker 6: Is it 2020 during COVID? What year is this? I mean,

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Speaker 6: it is sort of a tale as old as time.

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Speaker 6: And it sort of reminds me of those Corey Lewandowski,

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Speaker 6: it does not surprise me that this story is being

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Speaker 6: alone he is maybe in his own mind. The memes

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Speaker 6: out on True Social over the weekend, that was really

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Speaker 6: level of Dante's Inferno. And this is what happens, though,

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Speaker 6: when he campaigns on revenge and retribution, when he campaigns

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Speaker 3: And then this is what we have.

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Speaker 6: And then he surrounds himself with people like Natalie Harp,

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Speaker 6: would love to know what he's going to be like

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Speaker 6: has this Trumpapalooza that's going to go over like a

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Speaker 6: Led Zeppelin down in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go up.

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Speaker 6: He cares nothing. He doesn't care about anything more. than ratings,

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Speaker 6: TV ratings. The ratings are going to be abysmal because

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Speaker 6: The season is kicking off and like Australians and things

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Speaker 6: like that. And he's going to be doing this crazy

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Speaker 6: shit in Dallas. None of it makes any sense.

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Speaker 1: So the bubble, we talk a lot about information bubbles,

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Speaker 3: 3, ladies and gentlemen. No more Earth 2.

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Speaker 6: Earth 2 was like the dishonest Earth where he just

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Speaker 6: Maybe we just wake up one day and he's just

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Speaker 1: So it's happening tonight. And here are some of the

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Speaker 3: What could go wrong?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I guess they'll show him the ratings, and

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Speaker 1: So that's where we go with this. Making ads, featuring

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Speaker 6: But they're all going to have to do the deer

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Speaker 3: And by captive, I mean really captive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're very tight.

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Speaker 6: Any journalist that puts out a tweet about the crowd,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think, and then Maggie Haberman said this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is not Caesar's Rome. This is Caesar's Palace.

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Speaker 6: Kennedy Center, people may not realize this, that that stupid

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Speaker 6: That to me is by definition, A 25th Amendment moment.

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Speaker 1: Insanity projects. You got a lot of good lines in here,

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Speaker 3: I saved them up for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really insanity. I plan to steal all of this.

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Speaker 6: The only thing that I can think of that he

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can do that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That would send the stock market spiraling. I think he

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Speaker 3: You know, what was the old Dan Ratherism? His shirt

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Speaker 6: You know, he's in that he's kind of in that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of voting starting soon.

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Speaker 6: I've been saying this, make this your job to vote.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to do it another way. And I

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Speaker 6: go down that rabbit hole, but I was.

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Speaker 3: There covering that.

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Speaker 6: And he sabotaged himself throughout that entire ordeal. You know,

436
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Speaker 6: he would say it's it's like a miracle. It's going

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Speaker 6: to disappear.

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Speaker 4: He would try to overrule Fauci.

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Speaker 3: He would say.

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Speaker 6: Liberate Minnesota and Michigan and, you know, forget about social

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Speaker 6: distancing as there were there was no vaccine and we

442
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Speaker 6: were just spreading it around. So, like, that didn't make

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Speaker 6: any sense. And it, you know, compounded the crisis, obviously.

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Speaker 6: And this time around, he's kind of he's almost doing

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Speaker 6: the same thing. But this time around, you're absolutely right.

446
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Speaker 6: He is the pandemic. He is the virus. He is

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Speaker 6: the pathogen. And he is, at the same time, the accelerant.

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Speaker 6: And he has completely done himself in. I've said this

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Speaker 6: many times over the years, since he started calling me

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Speaker 6: the enemy of the people and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: He is his own worst enemy.

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Speaker 6: He will always screw himself harder than anybody has ever

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Speaker 6: screwed him.

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Speaker 1: It's really crazy.

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Speaker 3: But somehow he bails himself out somehow.

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Speaker 1: Just to go down this rabbit hole for a minute,

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Speaker 1: if you were a normal president, You could make it— like,

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Speaker 1: the Iranians obviously are not easy to negotiate with. That's

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Speaker 1: why it took Obama so long to set up that

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Speaker 1: nuclear deal, because it's hard to negotiate with someone where

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Speaker 1: you don't really have a language of trust. But it's

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Speaker 1: 10 times harder when you've sent in your son-in-law and

463
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Speaker 1: some rando friend of yours who has no experience doing this.

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Speaker 1: If you were to send in people who know how

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Speaker 1: to do this— And you could get them to reopen

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Speaker 1: the streets. You would have to send in people who

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Speaker 1: knew what they were doing and you'd have to get

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Speaker 1: Oman involved and you'd have to get all the other

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Speaker 1: Middle Eastern countries involved. But everybody is close enough together

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Speaker 1: and everybody is worried enough about the Iranians bombing them

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Speaker 1: that they want peace as much as we do.

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Speaker 3: They do. And I mean, I don't know what you do.

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Speaker 6: Do you give like Leon Panetta a billion dollars in

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Speaker 6: crypto and say, please bail my ass out of this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trump has offered a lot of stuff to

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Speaker 1: the Iranians.

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Speaker 6: Remember, he needs smart people around him, but smart people

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Speaker 6: don't want to work for him anymore.

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Speaker 3: They already went, you know, the normies tried this in

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Speaker 3: the first administration.

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Speaker 6: And now he's got the closest thing he has to

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Speaker 6: normies are Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 3: And Doug Burgum.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, and look what's happened to them. You know,

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Speaker 3: they sold their souls.

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Speaker 6: And there is the only thing I can think of

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Speaker 6: that he could do right now is say, well, listen,

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Speaker 6: if you vote for the Republicans, I will resign after

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Speaker 6: the midterms are over.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: That is the only that's the only thing that would

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Speaker 5: do it at this point.

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Speaker 3: But with Iran, nobody trusts him.

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Speaker 6: And obviously anything he says today will be completely undone tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And so.

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Speaker 6: You know, he has painted himself into a corner corner here.

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Speaker 6: And he, to me, really has no choice here but

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Speaker 6: to ride this thing out and see if, you know,

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Speaker 6: current events somehow bail him out as they have in

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Speaker 6: the past. I mean, you know, this whole notion that

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Speaker 6: he's going to be so humiliated after the midterms, he's

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Speaker 6: going to go, you know. limping away and resign and

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Speaker 6: leave the office.

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Speaker 3: Zero.

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Speaker 6: 0.0% chance of that because he knows his ass is

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Speaker 6: in legal hot water again. He has done so much corrupt,

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Speaker 6: crooked shit since coming back into the Oval Office. His family,

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Speaker 6: they've all been lining their pockets.

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Speaker 1: He's made so much money.

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Speaker 6: I was talking with somebody and I can't get anywhere

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Speaker 6: close to revealing how I could reveal, you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't want to say anything about who this person is,

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Speaker 6: but I know somebody who knows the family.

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Speaker 3: I was speaking with them recently.

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Speaker 6: And they told me that the only thing that Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump and his family are doing right now is lining

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Speaker 6: their pockets.

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Speaker 1: That's all they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Since coming back from the White House. It's all they

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Speaker 3: care about.

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Speaker 6: And it's completely obvious to anybody who knows this family well.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's the whole ballgame. That's the scoreboard

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Speaker 6: at this point is how much money they are racking

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Speaker 6: up as– as President of the United States and the

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Speaker 6: first family.

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Speaker 3: And it's astonishing.

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Speaker 6: And I think after this is all said and done, Molly,

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Speaker 6: I think we will all be shocked and flabbergasted and

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Speaker 6: completely just, our minds will be blown by the level

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Speaker 6: of corruption that has occurred under our noses without, I guess,

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Speaker 6: without a lot of us really knowing the full magnitude

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Speaker 6: of what's going on. Just what's been revealed, you know, paying,

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Speaker 6: giving $ 45, 000 to Natalie Harp, that's the other thing that

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Speaker 6: just came out recently, stuff like that. I mean, Those

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Speaker 6: are that's peanuts compared to what he's been raking in

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Speaker 6: and what his family.

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Speaker 3: Has been raking in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jim Acosta.

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Speaker 3: Molly, great to see you. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Brendan Boyle represents Pennsylvania's 2nd District. Welcome, welcome, Representative Boyle.

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Speaker 4: Great to be back. Great to be back.

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Speaker 1: So Democrats could very, very, very possibly flip the House.

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Speaker 1: The thing that is on everyone's mind right now are

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Speaker 1: the elections. There's a lot of anxiety that Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to mess with the vote. You are in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: which is insane. the swing state to end all swing states.

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Speaker 1: What are you guys doing there on the ground to

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Speaker 1: protect voters, mail-in ballots, etc.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, this is very timely because literally just

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Speaker 7: a couple hours ago, I was in my district standing

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Speaker 7: outside one of the offices of the Philadelphia city commissioners.

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Speaker 7: The city commissioners here in Philly, it's a three-person elected

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Speaker 7: official panel that runs our elections and happens to be

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Speaker 7: two Democrats, one Republican, one The Republican who used to

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Speaker 7: do it, a gentleman named Al Smith, kind of became

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Speaker 7: famous in 2020, you might remember, because he was a

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Speaker 7: Republican with tremendous integrity who was taking a lot of

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Speaker 7: personal risks to stand up to what Trump was doing

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Speaker 7: to attempt to steal the 2020 election. He's been succeeded

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Speaker 7: by another Republican who is also equally courageous and committed

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Speaker 7: to doing the right thing. So the Republican member, in

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Speaker 7: addition to the two Democratic members, have just really been phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: And we have really been center.

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Speaker 7: I mean, as the biggest city of the biggest swing

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Speaker 7: state in the nation over the last decade, we've really

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Speaker 7: been front and center here. And once again, you have

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Speaker 7: Trump threatening to screw up mail-in ballots.

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Speaker 4: With this executive order.

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Speaker 7: So I stood outside the city commissioner's office today, as

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Speaker 7: well as with some postal workers and the head of

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Speaker 7: one of the local postal workers unions here to call

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Speaker 7: out what the Trump administration is attempting to do to

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Speaker 7: really screw around with mail-in balloting. So I'm on legislation

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Speaker 7: that would stop the executive order. Of course, Mike Johnson

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Speaker 7: is not exactly going to be standing up for this president.

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Speaker 4: Anytime soon. The next time he does will be the

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Speaker 4: first time.

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Speaker 7: So I really think on this over the next two months,

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Speaker 7: it will come down to the courts and ultimately the

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Speaker 7: US Supreme Court as to whether or not we're still

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Speaker 7: going to be able to vote by mail, which I

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Speaker 7: remind people is completely safe and secure, so much so

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Speaker 7: that Donald Trump votes by mail and has done so repeatedly.

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Speaker 1: We are eight weeks from the midterm. So do you

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Speaker 1: think that Trump is just doing this to try to

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Speaker 1: get people to not trust the system?

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Speaker 4: There's no question.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think that with, you know, eight weeks to go,

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Speaker 7: he sees what everyone else sees, that we Democrats are

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Speaker 7: heavily favored to take back the House. Looks like it

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Speaker 7: will be another blue wave similar to 2018. Can't take

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Speaker 7: anything for granted, but clearly All signs are pointing in

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Speaker 7: that direction. Trump is far more unpopular today than he

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Speaker 7: even was eight years ago when Democrats won 40 House

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Speaker 7: seats and took back the House. So I think he's

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Speaker 7: setting things up to say.

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Speaker 4: See, they stole it from me again.

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Speaker 7: It's all crooked, fake news.

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Speaker 4: It's all the bullshit that he throws out there any

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Speaker 4: time he loses an election. Hell, it's kind of.

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Speaker 7: Well known that after the 2016 election, the election in

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Speaker 7: which he did win a majority of the electoral vote, unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: but lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes,

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Speaker 7: he even called into question that election and said that

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Speaker 7: 5 million people had voted illegally, which was an insane claim.

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Speaker 7: So he's a guy who even calls into question the

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Speaker 7: validity of an election in which he will be the winner.

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Speaker 7: So there's no question he's going to do the same

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Speaker 7: thing in 2026, you know, when we win.

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Speaker 1: So if that's true, are you worried about Mike Johnson

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Speaker 1: not seeding the Democrats? Because there's a scenario where Democrats win,

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Speaker 1: they flip the House, and then Mike Johnson, who is

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Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House, until those votes are seated.

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Speaker 7: So let me say a couple points about this. First,

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Speaker 7: we need to win by a margin that is too

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Speaker 7: big to rig. That is the safest way to ensure

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Speaker 7: we don't have to worry about any of this. Because

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Speaker 7: I do have some fears what happens if we, you know,

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Speaker 7: after the election, we're in a 218 to 217 type

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Speaker 7: margin or even 219 to 216. And that would give

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Speaker 7: Republicans incentive to try to hold up the election results

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Speaker 7: in one to three House races. If we're winning a

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Speaker 7: majority by, you know, six members, 10 members, double digits,

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Speaker 7: then then I'm a lot less worried about that. But

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Speaker 7: there's another point that I think people miss. On January

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Speaker 7: 3rd at noon, when the new Congress will be sworn

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Speaker 7: in per the U.S.

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Speaker 4: Constitution, Mike Johnson is not in the chair as speaker.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people are under the false impression that

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Speaker 7: he's speaker until he's voted out.

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Speaker 4: No, there is no speaker of the House at 12

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Speaker 4: noon on January 3rd.

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Speaker 7: It's actually the clerk this completely anonymous, administrative, nonpartisan position

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Speaker 7: who is in that position of power. And in fact,

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00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 7: people might remember that during those four absurd days when

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Speaker 7: Kevin McCarthy was attempting to win the speakership back the

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Speaker 7: first week of January in 2023, and this went for

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Speaker 7: four days, 15 rounds, he wasn't in the chair. There

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Speaker 7: was no Republican in the chair. There was an F

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Speaker 7: an older African-American woman who happened to be the chief

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Speaker 7: clerk at the time, who was at that point, the

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Speaker 7: presiding officer of the house of representatives until you had

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Speaker 7: the election for speaker. So Final point I'll make on

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Speaker 7: this is we can't allow some of this garbage to

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Speaker 7: become a self-fulfilling prophecy where people get themselves worked up,

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00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:53,020
Speaker 7: so nervous about what Trump might do, so concerned about

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Speaker 7: the chicanery and the illegal stuff he may pull that

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Speaker 7: people just become disaffected and checked out and don't turn

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Speaker 7: up to vote.

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Speaker 4: Because in many ways, that's exactly what he wants.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about the tariffs because you're in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: So you're getting hit by the trade war, getting hit

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Speaker 1: by the gasoline. Trump sort of declared war against Canada

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Speaker 1: last week. Not entirely clear why Canada is now going

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Speaker 1: to put these retaliatory tariffs in place. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So not just Pennsylvania, but nationwide, we are suffering from

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Speaker 7: the highest tariffs since the 1930s, since the Great Depression.

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Speaker 7: Tariff is just another word for a tax. The same

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Speaker 7: way a mortgage is another word for a kind of loan.

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Speaker 7: These tariffs are taxes, and they are at the highest

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Speaker 7: level in almost a century. And the American people are

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Speaker 7: paying the price. They are suffering. So that is point

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Speaker 7: number one. Point number two, I don't think people realize

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Speaker 7: that Canada is our single biggest export market. When you

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Speaker 7: combine imports and exports, Canada is one of our three

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Speaker 7: largest trading partners.

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Speaker 4: The other two are Mexico and China.

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Speaker 7: China ends up getting so much outsized attention from the

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Speaker 7: media that people don't realize that Canada is actually a

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Speaker 7: larger trading partner for the United States. So starting a

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Speaker 7: trade war with one of our biggest trading partners is

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Speaker 7: unbelievably stupid and self-destructive. This is essentially a massive tax

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Speaker 7: increase that is disproportionately paid for by the poorest and

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Speaker 7: most working class Americans, because of course, you know, when

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Speaker 7: you have no money, you're spending most of your money

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Speaker 7: to buy goods and services and have.

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Speaker 4: Very little savings.

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Speaker 7: That takes up by a higher percentage of your overall

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Speaker 7: budget than if you're a higher income person. So This

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Speaker 7: is an awful situation when you combine the tariffs with

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Speaker 7: the record high gas prices and other energy costs. You

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Speaker 7: can understand why the polling in terms of the economy

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Speaker 7: right now is the worst we've seen for any president

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Speaker 7: since the fall of 2008, which is when the Great

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Speaker 7: Recession was unfolding.

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Speaker 4: George W. Bush was in the 20s in terms of

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Speaker 4: his polling on the economy.

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Speaker 7: We haven't seen a president repeat those low levels until

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Speaker 7: right now. Donald Trump's numbers are also in the 20s

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Speaker 7: in terms of his handling of the economy.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to talk about it strikes me

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Speaker 1: that Democrats might flip the sat net.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. You know, if we were having this conversation a

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Speaker 7: year ago, None of us or neither of us would

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Speaker 7: have really been realistically thinking that the Senate was flippable.

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Speaker 7: In fact, believe it or not, at the time, just

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Speaker 7: a year ago, there were some pretty serious people writing

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Speaker 7: think pieces on whether or not Democrats could ever win

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Speaker 7: back the Senate because of the bias toward Republicans in

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Speaker 7: the way that the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Is made up as a body.

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Speaker 7: Now, here we are, and we're talking about electing Democratic

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Speaker 7: senators in Ohio, in Texas, in Iowa, in Alaska, and

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Speaker 7: perhaps even winning 52 seats.

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Speaker 4: So, you know.

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Speaker 7: Right now, as it stands in the Senate, I think

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Speaker 7: it's probably 50-50. I mean, those are seats or states

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Speaker 7: I mentioned where Trump won by double digits, by anywhere

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Speaker 7: from 10, 11, 12 points.

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Speaker 4: So it shows you the kind of swing that we need.

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Speaker 7: And yet right now in the polling, Tallarico has a

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Speaker 7: small lead in Texas.

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Speaker 4: Great candidate.

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Speaker 7: Sherry Brown really over, in losing two years ago, he

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Speaker 7: overperformed tremendously in Ohio in a very tough election year.

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Speaker 7: So he's doing really well in Ohio. Mary Paltola, my

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Speaker 7: former colleague, is such a great fit in Alaska.

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Speaker 4: And then Josh Torek in Iowa is a great candidate

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 7: So we're pretty fortunate And then, of course, in addition

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Speaker 7: to Maine, obviously North Carolina and the states we need

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Speaker 7: to hold in Michigan and Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So in 2028, there will be the Fetterman seat will

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Speaker 1: be up. Fetterman has been real disappointed. There was this

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal piece. I'm sure you saw it five

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Speaker 1: days ago, said that he doesn't have much interest in

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Speaker 1: meeting with CHOP, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, one of the

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Speaker 1: great scientific institutions. Talk me through what you think about

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Speaker 1: this moment and John Fetterman.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, John Fetterman has been a remarkable disappointment.

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Speaker 7: The change in him in such a short period of

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Speaker 7: time from what he said he was all about when

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Speaker 7: he ran for the Senate four years ago versus how

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Speaker 7: he's been in office.

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Speaker 4: Some of the things in that article are truly shocking.

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Speaker 7: You know, just a few weeks ago, ironically, I was

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Speaker 7: down at CHOP standing outside one of their buildings to

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Speaker 7: fight for them because they're losing research money left and right.

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Speaker 4: These grants, research grants being cut.

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Speaker 7: By this crazy HHS that we have under this administration

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Speaker 7: and RFK Jr. So to refuse to meet with them

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Speaker 7: in your office in Washington, D.C., as well as some

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Speaker 7: of the other things that were in there as well.

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Speaker 1: Refusing to meet with paralyzed servicemen.

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Speaker 7: Just truly disgraceful, which is one. If someone follows me

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Speaker 7: on Twitter, Rep. Brendan Boyle, I called him a disgrace.

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Speaker 7: because that's exactly right. I mean, that's how he's behaved.

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Speaker 7: And for me, a number of supporters earlier this year

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Speaker 7: came to me to urge me to run for the U.S.

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Speaker 7: Senate in 2028. And I told them exactly what I'll

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Speaker 7: repeat now. My focus is entirely on this election. We

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Speaker 7: have to win a majority in the House and finally

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Speaker 7: provide a check on this crazy, out-of-control administration. If we

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Speaker 7: do win the majority in the House, then I will

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Speaker 7: be the next chairman of the House Budget Committee, an

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Speaker 7: incredibly important position that when I first came to the

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Speaker 7: Congress 12 years ago, Paul Ryan was in that position

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Speaker 7: and was able to do a lot of things with it,

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Speaker 7: a lot of damaging things from my perspective, but nonetheless

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Speaker 7: was able to have a great deal of.

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Speaker 4: Influence on public policy.

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Speaker 7: So I hope to be in a position to have

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Speaker 7: a difficult choice to make come after November in terms

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Speaker 7: of what I want to do next.

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Speaker 1: Because you have seniority, you would have to give up

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Speaker 1: that seniority run for a Senate.

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Speaker 7: Combination of seniority, but also I have been elected by

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Speaker 7: a majority of Democrats in my caucus to be the

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Speaker 7: lead Democrat currently on the budget committee, which makes you

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Speaker 7: ranking member. For the majority, instead of ranking member, I'm

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Speaker 7: chair of the entire committee. And as I look at

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Speaker 7: the next few years, it's an important position as the

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Speaker 7: chair fighting back against this administration in the last two

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Speaker 7: years of a President Trump.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm really excited about is the prospect that.

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Speaker 7: Come January 2029, just two years and a few months away,

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Speaker 7: we could have another Democratic trifecta in which we would

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Speaker 7: finally have the opportunity to do real transformative, positive change

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Speaker 7: for this country.

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Speaker 4: And as you know, any person who is.

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Speaker 7: The chair of the house budget committee would be leading

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Speaker 7: that effort because reconciliation bill is how you would do it.

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Speaker 4: And that runs through the budget committee.

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Speaker 7: So, and that's the way that Joe Biden did his

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Speaker 7: inflation reduction act, the way Donald Trump has done his

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Speaker 7: big and damaging rounds of tax cuts, the way Obama

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Speaker 7: was able to get through Obamacare, it was all through reconciliation.

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Speaker 7: which starts and finishes in the Budget Committee.

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Speaker 1: What would you do if you had the gavel? Like,

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Speaker 1: what would be the first legislative?

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Speaker 4: So there are a few things that I'm focused on

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Speaker 4: come January.

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Speaker 7: Number one, let's not forget that in his absurdly called big,

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Speaker 7: beautiful bill of last year, the big BS bill, It

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Speaker 7: included in that healthcare cuts that take away the healthcare

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Speaker 7: of 16 million Americans. Most of that damage, and this

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Speaker 7: is maybe the most cynical part of that bill, most

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Speaker 7: of that damage doesn't begin until December of this year.

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Speaker 4: That's when the Medicaid cuts take effect.

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Speaker 7: So when I take over, I hope the gavel come

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Speaker 7: January 3rd, we literally will just be in the early

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Speaker 7: stages of those Medicaid cuts taking effect. So my first priority,

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Speaker 7: the first bill that we will pass out of the

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Speaker 7: committee is to reverse every single one of those devastating

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Speaker 7: health care cuts that were included in the big BS

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Speaker 7: bill that became law last year. The second thing will

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Speaker 7: finally be to reclaim the tariff authority that is inherent

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Speaker 7: in Article 1 of the Constitution, which means.

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Speaker 1: Could you end the tariffs?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the power to tariff or the power to

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Speaker 7: tax is a power of the United States Congress as

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Speaker 7: the Supreme Court. Even this very conservative Supreme Court found

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Speaker 7: a few months ago in striking down one version of

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Speaker 7: Trump's tariffs that they were unconstitutional because Congress ultimately has

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Speaker 7: to vote on on a tariff. Now, of course, this

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Speaker 7: administration came up with other B.S. executive orders that they're.

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Speaker 4: Hanging their hat on now.

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Speaker 7: But if Congress acted here, which Mike Johnson refuses to do,

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Speaker 7: Congress could end these tariffs once and for all. So

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Speaker 7: that's something that I'm really looking forward to a House

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Speaker 7: Democratic majority being able to do in a short period

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Speaker 7: of time.

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Speaker 1: That would be pretty amazing if you could do that.

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Speaker 1: The child tax credit was one of the most effective

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Speaker 1: ways to take children out of poverty. Is there any

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Speaker 1: way to get that back? Because it expired under Republican rule.

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Speaker 7: So in the child tax credit, this was in the

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Speaker 7: original version of the Inflation Reduction Act that we passed

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Speaker 7: out of the House. So House Democrats, we made it

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Speaker 7: permanent in a bill that was originally called Build Back Better,

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Speaker 7: if you remember that. And then two, at the time,

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Speaker 7: Democratic senators, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, stopped that from

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Speaker 7: becoming permanent when they slimmed down the bill into the

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Speaker 7: Inflation Reduction Act. There is no question in my mind,

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Speaker 7: the next Democratic trifecta needs to make the child tax

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Speaker 7: credit permanent. It lifted so many millions out of poverty.

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Speaker 7: I have one of the lowest income congressional districts nationwide.

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Speaker 7: So that really helped my constituents a great deal. I

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Speaker 7: am very confident that a House Democratic.

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Speaker 4: Majority will pass that.

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Speaker 7: But obviously, as long as Trump is in the White House,

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Speaker 7: I'm not very optimistic that it would become law. But

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Speaker 7: we need to at least lay the groundwork and do

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Speaker 7: the work now. And I'm pretty confident we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Boyle, great to see you. Bobby Polito is a

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Speaker 1: singer and the Democratic nominee for Texas's 15th congressional district. Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Bobby. Hi, Molly. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have you. Now, I want to

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Speaker 1: just preface this. I'd heard about your race. I want

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Speaker 1: you first to explain to us the district you're running in,

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Speaker 1: because you're kind of famous. You're kind of like a

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Speaker 1: dream candidate to run in this district. So explain to

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Speaker 1: us what the district is first, and then a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your background.

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Speaker 5: Well, the district right now, if you were to go

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Speaker 5: like do a Google search, you probably wouldn't see this district.

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Speaker 5: The one that comes up is the other one that

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Speaker 5: was pre-Trump ordering Abbott's gerrymander. So it has changed substantially.

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Speaker 5: So before the district covered seven counties. Now it covers

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Speaker 5: 11 counties. Yes, I am a singer.

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Speaker 1: Wait, first, it's gotten significantly more rad.

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Speaker 5: No, not really.

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Speaker 1: Okay, talk us through.

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Speaker 5: No, the original district, Trump won it by 18 points.

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Speaker 5: This district, Trump won it by 17.9 points. Essentially, it's

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Speaker 5: pretty much the same color. This was not the district

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Speaker 5: that they targeted. People sometimes confuse it. They think that

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Speaker 5: this is one of the five. It's not. This is

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Speaker 5: one of the ones that they thought they would not

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Speaker 5: have to fight. You know, so they thought this was

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Speaker 5: a shoe-in district for them.

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00:45:35,219 --> 00:45:41,109
Speaker 1: How Latino is your district? 80%. Okay. And remember, Donald

876
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:47,509
Speaker 1: Trump in 2024 made humongous inroads with Latino voters. And

877
00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:49,850
Speaker 1: he thought he would keep those voters, right?

878
00:45:50,170 --> 00:45:51,469
Speaker 5: I would not even put it that way.

879
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:53,390
Speaker 1: Great. Tell me.

880
00:45:53,890 --> 00:45:56,610
Speaker 5: I don't think he made the inroads. I think it

881
00:45:56,650 --> 00:45:57,690
Speaker 5: was a binary choice.

882
00:45:57,850 --> 00:45:58,089
Speaker 4: Great.

883
00:45:58,370 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 5: And people voted for him over the message that Kamala

884
00:46:01,969 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: was saying, right? I mean, that's just the bottom line.

885
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 5: That's where the rubber meets the road. Yeah. And so

886
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:10,660
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like the people aren't as Trumpy.

887
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 5: It is a conservative district, I will tell you. It

888
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:18,870
Speaker 5: is definitely very conservative. Especially on the cultural issues. You know,

889
00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:23,910
Speaker 5: the number one ad played during the during the 2024

890
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:26,589
Speaker 5: election was Kamala's for they them. Trump is for you.

891
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: And they played culture really, really successfully.

892
00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Yes.

893
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 5: Very effectively.

894
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:33,540
Speaker 7: Right.

895
00:46:33,739 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: For sure.

896
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 7: So.

897
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 5: So, yes. I mean, is it more conservative than it? Yes.

898
00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: It's absolutely conservative because it's very rural. And rural areas

899
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:42,420
Speaker 5: tend to be very conservative.

900
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: But these are your people. And I'd love you to

901
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,980
Speaker 1: explain to us why they're your people, how they're your people,

902
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: how you got to know these people, and a little

903
00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:54,430
Speaker 1: bit about your relationship with this district.

904
00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:57,969
Speaker 5: It starts even before me, Molly. My father's a very

905
00:46:58,030 --> 00:47:03,569
Speaker 5: famous musician, Tejano musician, Roberto Pulido. And, you know, growing up,

906
00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:08,310
Speaker 5: I actually was raised going to all these Texas towns.

907
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,070
Speaker 7: Right.

908
00:47:09,110 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: My dad was filling up dance halls for years that

909
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,780
Speaker 5: what is now my district.

910
00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:15,180
Speaker 7: Right.

911
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,380
Speaker 5: So so my dad's 76 years old. Thank God he's

912
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,470
Speaker 5: still with us. And and so a lot of his

913
00:47:22,510 --> 00:47:24,730
Speaker 5: fans are about his age. And guess what? They all vote.

914
00:47:26,010 --> 00:47:29,010
Speaker 5: And so we've made lots of friendships throughout the years

915
00:47:29,090 --> 00:47:32,299
Speaker 5: in these districts. My dad is the person that. his

916
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,029
Speaker 5: way of paying homage to people is he sings at

917
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:38,049
Speaker 5: their funeral. So my dad always goes to people, takes

918
00:47:38,070 --> 00:47:40,689
Speaker 5: his guitar and he sings at funerals. And people are very,

919
00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:44,650
Speaker 5: he's very beloved. My dad's a very humble man. He

920
00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:48,390
Speaker 5: taught me a lot of those values. And, you know,

921
00:47:48,489 --> 00:47:51,690
Speaker 5: so I've been at this music for 30 years and

922
00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:53,630
Speaker 5: I was lucky enough to have won two Latin Grammys

923
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: and had a successful career in my own right. And so,

924
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,259
Speaker 5: you know, our culture is very, very important to us

925
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,410
Speaker 5: as identities. And that culture is, we're a very unique culture, Molly.

926
00:48:06,469 --> 00:48:11,170
Speaker 5: We sing in Spanish, but the DJs speak in English

927
00:48:11,230 --> 00:48:13,450
Speaker 5: and present the music in English. So it is like

928
00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:18,470
Speaker 5: Spanglish all the way, our culture. On my mother's side,

929
00:48:19,290 --> 00:48:23,850
Speaker 5: I'm eight generation Texan. And we go back even before,

930
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:28,250
Speaker 5: you know, Texas existed. And so, you know, I feel

931
00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:32,100
Speaker 5: like we have a lot in common I know the people.

932
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,899
Speaker 5: I know the way they think. I know the way they, right?

933
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:38,340
Speaker 5: I know what works and what doesn't work. And more importantly,

934
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 5: I've showed up, right? So this is not a type

935
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 5: of campaign to vote for me because I'm famous.

936
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Right.

937
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: We've been going to the reddest of red counties and

938
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,980
Speaker 5: making friends and talking to people. And it's the most

939
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,089
Speaker 5: effective way to really campaign. You know, recently you've seen

940
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,489
Speaker 5: a lot of this DSA campaign. resurgence in these big cities.

941
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of it has to do

942
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 5: with the fact that they grassroots campaign on the ground

943
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: and they talk to people.

944
00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:08,420
Speaker 3: Right.

945
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:11,740
Speaker 5: And I think that the Democratic Party, ever since Citizens United,

946
00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:16,250
Speaker 5: really got used to raising money to put commercials on.

947
00:49:16,750 --> 00:49:19,169
Speaker 5: And to me, that's not the most effective way to win.

948
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:19,549
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

949
00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 5: Election, right? People want to know the person that they're

950
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,630
Speaker 5: voting for and they don't look at things from the

951
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:29,510
Speaker 5: dichotomy of, well, it has to be with a litmus

952
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:32,540
Speaker 5: test of issues. You have to get this, this, this, this.

953
00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:35,100
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't vote that way. They vote

954
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: based on trust. And they vote that they're going to

955
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,580
Speaker 5: trust the person that makes that decision that's in their

956
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: best interest. That's what's down here to me that separates

957
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,810
Speaker 5: us from everywhere else. So, yeah, you know, Social Security

958
00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:49,149
Speaker 5: is incredibly popular here.

959
00:49:49,390 --> 00:49:49,609
Speaker 1: Yeah.

960
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:52,610
Speaker 5: Right. And it was a social problem FDR put in.

961
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:52,890
Speaker 4: Right.

962
00:49:52,989 --> 00:49:55,930
Speaker 5: So I don't really like the labels. I think more importantly,

963
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: And more than litmus tests, it's more about the trust.

964
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,020
Speaker 5: And so we've been showing up. We've gone to all

965
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,700
Speaker 5: these red counties even before the primary. People thought like, well,

966
00:50:05,739 --> 00:50:07,100
Speaker 5: in the primary, you're not going to need them. I

967
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,109
Speaker 5: was like, no, but that's not the point. It's not

968
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:12,030
Speaker 5: about needing. It's not about needing people. It's about meeting

969
00:50:12,070 --> 00:50:15,529
Speaker 5: them early on so they get to know you and

970
00:50:15,550 --> 00:50:19,589
Speaker 5: they trust you. Because my opponent has not done that. Right.

971
00:50:19,630 --> 00:50:21,430
Speaker 5: She didn't even do it when in the other district.

972
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:25,130
Speaker 5: She's never had an in-person town hall. She's a rubber

973
00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: stamp on Trump. At the end of the day, I

974
00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:30,900
Speaker 5: think people also do not want that. They want an

975
00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:34,500
Speaker 5: independent-minded person that looks at the values and represents the

976
00:50:34,540 --> 00:50:37,020
Speaker 5: values of the district. And I think I fit all

977
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 5: the criteria.

978
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:43,049
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your polling right now, and you are

979
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:46,490
Speaker 1: polling like five points ahead in this New York Times

980
00:50:46,570 --> 00:50:51,029
Speaker 1: poll from August. That must feel... kind of amazing. So

981
00:50:51,489 --> 00:50:54,049
Speaker 1: talk me through, like, what does it look like on

982
00:50:54,090 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: the ground? Because you're in this area that is, I

983
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: think you're in the Rio Grande, right?

984
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 5: We are definitely on the border, but it goes all

985
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:07,100
Speaker 5: the way to Gonzales. So it's 308 miles from one

986
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,140
Speaker 5: point of the district all the way to the northern point.

987
00:51:09,830 --> 00:51:12,510
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you this, Molly, it's not just one pole.

988
00:51:12,850 --> 00:51:15,190
Speaker 5: We're running like we're behind. To me, this race is

989
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:19,549
Speaker 5: a toss-up. We have seen five poles. Every single poll

990
00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:22,270
Speaker 5: has us winning from two to six points, which makes

991
00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:25,510
Speaker 5: us feel good. But polls have gotten it wrong before.

992
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 5: And we're really not relying on that. To me, if

993
00:51:30,260 --> 00:51:32,580
Speaker 5: you would have told me like last year, early last year,

994
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,859
Speaker 5: that we would be in a toss-up race, I would

995
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:38,100
Speaker 5: say that's exactly where I'd want to be. And that's

996
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:41,060
Speaker 5: where I believe we are. And so if you go

997
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: drive the district, even in these northern areas where They

998
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 5: have usually voted 70% Republican. You'll see our signs on yards.

999
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,790
Speaker 5: You'll see our signs on businesses everywhere. And, you know,

1000
00:51:55,210 --> 00:51:58,170
Speaker 5: consultants normally say, like, signs don't vote, don't spend money there.

1001
00:51:59,050 --> 00:52:01,870
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, right? When somebody's proudly putting a sign

1002
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 5: on their business or their house, they don't give a

1003
00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: shit what people think. They're proudly saying, I support this candidate.

1004
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:10,380
Speaker 5: And I think that's really powerful.

1005
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,900
Speaker 1: And actually, signs are a big tell. And I wanted

1006
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,900
Speaker 1: to ask you about this because you have this huge

1007
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,779
Speaker 1: rural district that's very Trumpy. One of the things that

1008
00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:24,830
Speaker 1: I have seen just anecdotally, and I'm wondering if you

1009
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:29,609
Speaker 1: have noticed this too, is less Trump signs, less Trump flags.

1010
00:52:29,810 --> 00:52:33,549
Speaker 5: There's zero Trump signs. I mean, I'm telling you like.

1011
00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:36,430
Speaker 5: And you're on the road. I am on the road. Yep.

1012
00:52:36,469 --> 00:52:38,750
Speaker 5: You don't see them anymore. And I will tell you,

1013
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:44,219
Speaker 5: in 2024, you saw Trump signs everywhere. You didn't see

1014
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:48,780
Speaker 5: any Kamala signs. And so I think that's very telling, right?

1015
00:52:48,860 --> 00:52:51,540
Speaker 5: You can tell when you have the support. And so

1016
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 5: on the ground, I'd be lying if I didn't tell

1017
00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:56,820
Speaker 5: you it doesn't feel like it's more than five points,

1018
00:52:57,260 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to go there.

1019
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,779
Speaker 1: It doesn't serve you.

1020
00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:03,310
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't serve you. No, we're campaigning hard. We're

1021
00:53:03,350 --> 00:53:06,550
Speaker 5: working hard and we're taking our message. And more importantly,

1022
00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:09,390
Speaker 5: my message is not a partisan message.

1023
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:11,950
Speaker 1: Tell me why. Tell me what your message is.

1024
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:15,330
Speaker 5: I think, Molly, people have become disillusioned with both parties

1025
00:53:16,090 --> 00:53:17,410
Speaker 5: and our polling shows that.

1026
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:18,069
Speaker 6: Right.

1027
00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:20,300
Speaker 5: So there's lots of people that used to vote Democrat.

1028
00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:24,169
Speaker 5: Then they switched over to Republican. And they're so damn

1029
00:53:24,190 --> 00:53:27,489
Speaker 5: disillusioned that they feel like icky going back to the

1030
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:30,930
Speaker 5: Democratic Party because they just switched. So they also don't

1031
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:33,250
Speaker 5: want to seem like they're waffle. So where's the where's

1032
00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:35,710
Speaker 5: kind of where's the point that they actually end up

1033
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:36,850
Speaker 5: and is in the middle.

1034
00:53:37,310 --> 00:53:37,450
Speaker 1: Right.

1035
00:53:37,469 --> 00:53:39,510
Speaker 5: And they're like, I just want to vote for the candidate.

1036
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 5: And you saw this in 2024 in Stark County, which

1037
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 5: everybody brings up where Trump won Stark County. Henry Cuad

1038
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: was on that same ballot. Henry Cuad won by a

1039
00:53:50,380 --> 00:53:55,589
Speaker 5: larger margin than Trump won Stark County. People there are conservative.

1040
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 5: Henry happens to be a conservative Democrat, but they're still Democrat.

1041
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,540
Speaker 5: But you've got to give them a good candidate that

1042
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:02,460
Speaker 5: resonates with them.

1043
00:54:02,580 --> 00:54:05,700
Speaker 1: For sure. I want you to tell me what voters,

1044
00:54:05,739 --> 00:54:11,390
Speaker 1: since you're talking to these very specific kind of voters

1045
00:54:11,450 --> 00:54:17,009
Speaker 1: who are Texas voters, who are socially pretty conservative, but

1046
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:20,830
Speaker 1: they're Democrats. And, you know, socially conservative can mean any

1047
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:23,629
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but mostly I would assume a lot

1048
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:26,689
Speaker 1: of them are Catholic voters. or religious. And so there's

1049
00:54:26,739 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: certain tenets that come with that religion that are what

1050
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,500
Speaker 1: they are. So I wonder if you could talk us

1051
00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:35,580
Speaker 1: through what's important to these voters.

1052
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,620
Speaker 5: Again, I'll tell you, they're not as offended by, I guess,

1053
00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:41,750
Speaker 5: more liberal economic policies.

1054
00:54:42,090 --> 00:54:45,250
Speaker 1: What are the focuses that they have, like affordability?

1055
00:54:45,370 --> 00:54:50,509
Speaker 5: Economic, economic, Molly. Look, I'm going to tell you why. Hispanics, traditionally,

1056
00:54:50,570 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 5: especially in this area, we all come from very humble beginnings.

1057
00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:56,290
Speaker 5: We don't have generational wealth. We don't.

1058
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:57,169
Speaker 7: Right.

1059
00:54:57,310 --> 00:55:02,190
Speaker 5: So the thing that really resonates with us is economic aspiration.

1060
00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:02,450
Speaker 7: Right.

1061
00:55:02,530 --> 00:55:05,090
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just one of I think as a

1062
00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:09,630
Speaker 5: Hispanic that really I think one of the stereotypes that

1063
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:13,250
Speaker 5: fits as well is really hardworking. You'll never hear anybody

1064
00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:16,190
Speaker 5: talk about a Hispanic being like, oh, he's a lazy. No,

1065
00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:19,410
Speaker 5: we're pretty much as a people. We're very hardworking. That's

1066
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:21,930
Speaker 5: kind of our basic tenet. Right. And when we work

1067
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:25,420
Speaker 5: really hard and we're not getting anywhere. It pisses us off.

1068
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,310
Speaker 1: So talk me through, like, since you're on the border,

1069
00:55:28,330 --> 00:55:31,390
Speaker 1: the Trump administration says that there's not many people coming

1070
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:33,890
Speaker 1: over the border. Are there not many people coming over

1071
00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:37,180
Speaker 1: the border? And if so, what is it like there?

1072
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 5: It's dropped down substantially. And I'll tell you, people down

1073
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,410
Speaker 5: here are for a secure border. Absolutely. Nobody here is like,

1074
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,540
Speaker 5: Open the borders and let everybody come in. Nobody thinks

1075
00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 5: that way. Now, what they don't like are the aggressive

1076
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: ICE policies that are going on here in the Rio

1077
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 5: Grande Valley. They have decimated the construction industry down here.

1078
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:03,219
Speaker 5: And here's the ironic thing, is they double down on it. Listen,

1079
00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:06,630
Speaker 5: they do not care. It's pretty ironic and sad at

1080
00:56:06,670 --> 00:56:09,150
Speaker 5: the same time that Monica de la Cruz is a

1081
00:56:09,350 --> 00:56:12,469
Speaker 5: big Trump or MAGA Monica, right? Whatever. She's going to

1082
00:56:12,510 --> 00:56:16,710
Speaker 5: be at the convention. rubber stamp, whatever Trump wants. And

1083
00:56:16,750 --> 00:56:19,570
Speaker 5: the irony in all of this is they are literally

1084
00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:22,549
Speaker 5: doing things to hurt her every single day. And she

1085
00:56:22,570 --> 00:56:25,049
Speaker 5: just stays quiet. Because like the majority of the people

1086
00:56:25,070 --> 00:56:28,469
Speaker 5: down here, the business owners are small business owners. Small

1087
00:56:28,510 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 5: businesses are suffering right now because of tariffs. She remains quiet.

1088
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 5: They're suffering because of these ICE raids and they can't

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Speaker 5: find a workforce. She remains quiet. You know, she goes

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Speaker 5: and Trump goes and belittles the Pope and assaults the Pope.

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Speaker 5: She's quiet. People down here want somebody that will stand

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Speaker 5: up for them, irrespective of the party.

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Speaker 1: I want you to explain to us what it's like

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Speaker 1: right now, what ICE is doing in your area, because

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Speaker 1: they're very active, right?

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Speaker 5: Super active. I mean, listen, it's pissing people off on

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Speaker 5: so many levels. Let's start with the number one important thing. Humanitarian-wise,

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Speaker 5: it's terrible, Molly. I have a friend of mine. That

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Speaker 5: is eight generation. His family's been here since, like my

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Speaker 5: mother's family, before Texas even existed, right? This guy, and

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Speaker 5: he's Republican, I might add, okay? Voted three times for Trump.

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Speaker 5: I was there years ago when he first met his wife.

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Speaker 5: His wife is Mexican. He has an eight-year-old daughter. There's

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Speaker 5: a technicality that happened when he tried to go get

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Speaker 5: her to be a citizen. And since ICE now is really,

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Speaker 5: actually the whole immigration system, it's not, they're not like

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Speaker 5: judges that are impartial. They're actually, they serve at the

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Speaker 5: pleasure of the DOJ and the DOJ serves at the

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Speaker 5: pleasure of the president. They're deporting his wife. Guess what?

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Speaker 5: He's 65 years old. I might add, he's very well off.

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Speaker 5: And he's going to have to move with his wife

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Speaker 5: and his American daughter to a foreign country because of

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Speaker 5: these stupid immigration policies that this government has happened. This

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Speaker 5: is something that they're not realizing how much they're hurting

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Speaker 5: our economy, how much they're hurting families. Like my buddy

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Speaker 5: tells me, I'm 65, Bobby. They're going to give her

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Speaker 5: a 10-year sentence. He goes, essentially, they're also making sure

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Speaker 5: that I'm going to probably die in a foreign country,

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Speaker 5: not in my own country, right? And so... humanitarian wise,

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Speaker 5: it's terrible. And then you go talk about economic as well.

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Speaker 5: Like it sucks all the way around. And I just,

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Speaker 5: it's terrible because I feel like The whole immigration thing

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Speaker 5: has been a political football that both sides have not

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Speaker 5: really made it a priority to fix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it's terrible. And also then there's the house building issue.

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Speaker 1: Will you talk about the house building issue?

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Speaker 5: Of course. Well, I mean, recently you saw them pass

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Speaker 5: a really strong bipartisan bill that Trump refused to sign.

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Speaker 5: And then after 10 days, it went in there. Guess what?

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean diddly squat. if you don't have people

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Speaker 5: to build a house. Here in the Rio Grande Valley,

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Speaker 5: there's not a house that was not built without immigrant hands.

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Speaker 5: I don't care which building, doesn't matter. So for like

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Speaker 5: many 40, 50 years, I mean, since we've been around,

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Speaker 5: you've had immigrants building these houses and building buildings and

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Speaker 5: building all this stuff. And then the Trump administration comes

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Speaker 5: out of the blue and just says, well, we're going

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Speaker 5: to get rid of everybody and all the undocumented people.

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Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, everything's going to get better.

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Speaker 5: Guess what? It's not. Because if you do not, you know,

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Speaker 5: you saw it with abundance. If you don't have any

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Speaker 5: building because you don't have a labor force or because

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Speaker 5: there's too much regulation, things are going to get more expensive.

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Speaker 5: The Rio Grande Valley is the lowest per capita income

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Speaker 5: in the state. Fifty two thousand dollars median household income. Right.

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Speaker 5: We do not make a lot of money. And when

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Speaker 5: you make things more expensive, you're messing with our livelihoods.

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Speaker 5: And and and this is something that that I think

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Speaker 5: has been the focus of what is our of our message. Right.

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Speaker 5: I represent this district, Molly, to a T. And I

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Speaker 5: believe that I'll fight for that and fight for for

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Speaker 5: what's right for us.

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Speaker 1: Are you still doing music? Are you still performing, too?

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Speaker 5: You know, I just I have I think I think

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Speaker 5: I got two more concerts to do. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 5: recently this past weekend in Fort Myers, Florida, for a concert. Right.

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you, man, they're really mad about the

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Speaker 5: immigration thing.

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Speaker 7: It's.

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Speaker 5: It's affected the whole economy. I was in there, Florida, too.

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Speaker 5: And it's something that's really, really affecting businesses.

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Speaker 1: It's the ice stuff. And then it's the people who

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Speaker 1: are scared to go out, right?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah. Any society that's paralyzed and living in fear

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Speaker 5: cannot function properly. And that's where we are right now.

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Speaker 5: There's people afraid to go to the grocery stores. They're

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Speaker 5: stopping people at the corner stores to sell tacos, you know,

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Speaker 5: where they go get those tacos before they go work.

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Speaker 5: And they're parked out there just trying to get people.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and I think we had an increase of

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Speaker 5: like seven hundred and thirty eight percent of habeas corpus petitions,

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Speaker 5: you know, of challenges. It's crazy. They have gone into

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Speaker 5: houses violating Fourth Amendment principles of just without a search warrant,

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Speaker 5: just going in there and pulling people out of their houses.

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Speaker 5: It's really a terrible time. And I'll tell you, you know,

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Speaker 5: I saw the governor of Texas fold on many things.

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Speaker 5: He folded on data centers, moratorium. He's folded on a

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Speaker 5: lot of things. The one thing he refuses to fold

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Speaker 5: on is they're using the state police to stop people

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Speaker 5: and then call ICE to get them. And how else

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Speaker 5: can we not see that as an attack on our people?

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Speaker 5: I've been really hesitant to get hyperbolic when it comes

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Speaker 5: to that, but they leave us no option but to

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Speaker 5: think that. I mean, it's just it's really a hunting

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Speaker 5: season on Latinos.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. Really.

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Speaker 1: So I'm so glad to get to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: It's very cool.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Yeah. I'm glad we can make it work. Oh,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to add, we're doing really good on

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Speaker 5: our fundraising. We outraced my, but you can donate to

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Speaker 5: our campaign at BobbyDepulidoForTexas.com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And now your moment of suffering.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon.

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Speaker 2: My Jungfast, so would you be shocked if I told

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Speaker 2: you that the Trump administration... Use the U.S. Census to

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Speaker 2: come to false conclusions with the data.

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Speaker 1: I would not at all be shocked. I would be

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Speaker 1: completely sure that that was exactly right. By the way,

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Speaker 1: a report published by the U.S. Census Bureau last month

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Speaker 1: purported to uncover evidence backing of Trump's baseless claims that

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Speaker 1: non-citizen voting cost him the 2020 election. But you know what?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't true. Just like we had Bill Barr saying

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Speaker 1: that Trump was exonerated by the Mueller report. We have this.

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Speaker 1: And Trump and other government officials quickly shared and praised

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Speaker 1: the report. Because a report that good, you don't need

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Speaker 1: to read. And the idea is if you can spin

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Speaker 1: what's in the report, no one will ever read it.

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Speaker 1: So it's not your problem. And that is how we

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Speaker 1: got here. So this is how they're going to deal

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Speaker 1: with facts that don't care about their feelings is by

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Speaker 1: lying about them. And that, my friends, is your moment

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Speaker 1: of fuckery. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics.

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