1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. This 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: is between the Horns. I am Miles Simmons. I'm with 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: de farm who's trying to heckle me, and we got 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: a third share on the show. Today's Danny Cleppinger. What's up, Danny? 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for let me hang out with you. Guys. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I was a little jealous of all the fun that 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: was going on in here. I had to sneak in 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: so much fun. No, you have fun. I don't have 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: much fun. DeMarco likes to heckle me, so like, maybe 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: you can push that to the other side of the 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: tableland Fane she Cleveland. We're like, I, you know what, 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. What I usually do is I will 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: like put a stop watch on my phone right right here, 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: so that I know where we're going. I hadn't even 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: got to that point yet. And you brought up Cleveland 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: of course, Well yeah from you? Yeah, all right, Well, anyway, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: as we get into it, you know, if you've been 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: checking out anything we've been doing um on the RAMS 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: dot com, you know that we're deep into this coaching search, right, 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: so we're gonna spend a little time talking about that. Yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: I hate that the fact I hate the fact that 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: you're here as a football team searching for a head coach, 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: but love the fact that the future is right, I guess, yeah, 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: endless possibilities. There are a lot of possibilities. It's kind 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: of crazy, sorry to cut you off. And it's a 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: little weird just to think how much was going on 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: last offseason for us with the move, and then you 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: would think that this offseason was the time to kind 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: of chill and get settled in. Maybe. Yeah, And it's 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: not that we can you imagine a rookie. Yeah, this, 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got everything, like twenty years of the 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: NFL all in one year, coach got fired, you're about 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: to hire a new one. Yeah, it's been it's been 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. You know. It's funny, Danny you bring that up. 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, we're in here earlier, and I was just 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: thinking about, like, man, a year ago, you know, in 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: our studio, you know, as we're getting ready to get 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: out for a week or whatever, you know, and we're 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: doing these season recaps. We didn't have a desk, you know, 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: we didn't have totally different studio. It really wasn't soundproof, 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: right like that. And so now you know, look where 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: we are a year later. It's pretty crazy all the 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: things that have come up. But um, let's get into 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: this coaching search a little bit. Um. Obviously a lot 45 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: of names have been out there, and we talked well JD. 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Long and I talked to Kevin Dimoff earlier this week. 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you guys have heard that, So let's 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: get into that a little bit. What were some of 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: your takeaways from what dim Off has said early on 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: in this search. Um, I guess it was encouraging, um 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: that there aren't really any parameters. Um no, no stone unturned. Yeah, 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: that's my impression. Yeah, that he's gonna look high and 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: low for the right coach. And UM, I think even 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: early on in the process, we talked about names not 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: mattering when a lot of talk was about, you know, 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Brian Billick or Bill Cower or John Gruden names household names. 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Did you hear Brian Billick? I mean from day one, 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean people, Bill people, I haven't heard that. You 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: haven't heard the Brian Billick. Oh that was like immediate. 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I did not hear Brian bill any not that I 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: not that. I I'm not trying to disrespect Brian Billick. Yeah, 62 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: because he could be the head coach and not saying 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: that he's not really right right evaluated. Not a name 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that I've heard. Well, any person with head coaching experience 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: has had some success, their name has come up. Yeah, 66 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: they always come up with coaching vagacy. So we were 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: talking about names, does LA does this football team need 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: a name? And he shot that down quickly and said, 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: we're going for the best coach available for this situation. 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: So I thought, I thought that was great. That's the 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: part that stood out to me the most because thinking 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: about it, I remember coming to LA when we first 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: made the move, everybody, everything seemed to have some sort 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: of appeal to it. Oh, we're trading for the number 75 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: one draft pick overall because we're in LA. Yeah, because 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: that's a Hollywood story. So same idea, do you bring 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a guy with that Hollywood type name. And it's interesting 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: because then I started to think about how reportedly Kevin 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Demof met with Sean McVeigh. He's thirty years old. Is 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: he the splash? Is he the Hollywood story? Is he 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: something that could fit with that? So it was interesting 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: to me because at the time, when you talked to 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Demoff, he hadn't it wasn't Thursday because he reportedly 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: met with him on Thursday. So when I heard that comment, 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, So maybe a splash like a 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: big name or somewhere on the complete opposite side of 87 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: the spectrum in that in McVeigh. Maybe that's not what 88 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: he's looking for. Maybe it's maybe those are all smoke screens. Yeah, 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: it could be. Yeah, who's the oldest guy on the 90 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: football team now, the oldest guy, It's got to be 91 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: either Will Hayes or Robert Quinn. Yeah, I think it 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: might be Quinn. Is Will Hayes is at least thirty. 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: He's on he's on the other side, he is going 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: to be thirty one. Okay. I was just thinking, you're 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: bringing a coach that's thirty years old, right, Yeah, yeah, 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I guess on this team you'd be a great beard. 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Exception of a few guys. Well, but that's the thing 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, is the oldest, the oldest and he's thirty one? Okay, 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Okay, if you've got a thirty 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: year old trying to command the room, no matter how 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: good he is, it the xs and os is he 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: a little young? D well? Um? Young. Yes, but that's 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: what we're both d which yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: D far yeah, she'll be d yeah. But usually, you know, 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: usually this is not a problem because I can sit 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: in this chair and I can say D and like 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: when we're on video, like Danny, Danny knows what I'm 108 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: talking about. And then when we're on this usually going 109 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: off by contact, I'm sorry, I won't I won't make 110 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: that mistake again. So we're gonna get back into this. 111 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Uh if this thing just cut out, Sorry about that. 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: We had a couple of technical difficulties. My producer, extraordinary Josh, 113 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: has solved them. So we are now back where we 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: need to be here on between the horns. So we'll 115 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: get back into what we were talking about, which to 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: be were we talking about, Yeah, you know, we were 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: talking about head coaching candidates. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Bryan 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Billa came up. We were talking about Sean mcpay. We 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: were talking about coaching ages, um, and I think the 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: overarching point that we're sort of trying to get at 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: here is what makes a head coach effective? Yeah. Um, look, 122 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: it's just your message. Um, you know, where have you been, 123 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: what are your experiences? Who have you coached. Who have 124 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: you helped become better? M Who did you learn from? 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Can you teach what you know? Um? This is the 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: thing that comes up when you start talking about anybody 127 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: from the Bill Belichick coaching tree. Oh yes, the New 128 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: England coaching tree. Um, go back to Romeo Cornell Sorry 129 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: and Charlie Weiss. I'm just I'm just saying, like guys 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: that come from that system, they turn out to be 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: what is head coaches? Okay, yeah, UM can't. I know 132 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: you can function in that environment very well. You can 133 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: function with a CEO like Bill Belichick and be effective 134 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: and win a lot of games. Can you remove yourself 135 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: from that situation and still be effective? That's what I 136 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: want to know in those meetings when I bring somebody 137 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: like that over from New England into my meeting room. Um, 138 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, I think he's the first round pick of 139 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: all the coaches out there because he's been groomed to 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: do this. Yah know. He knows football ins and outs. 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, he can put together a staff like that 142 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: probably one phone call, probably to his father or by himself. 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Those things are very attractive to a football team without 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: a head coach. YEA and I mean, I think picking 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: up on that, Shanahan obviously has been reportedly meeting with 146 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: all teams, and that's not surprising just looking at what 147 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: he did with Atlanta's offense this year and looking at 148 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: the Rams offense, Obviously, we need somebody to come in 149 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: and shake that up. Now, Kevin Demof said it doesn't 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be an offensive minded head coach. However, 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: you at least for Shanahan, can see what he did 152 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: with a quarterback. You saw what happened when Julio Jones 153 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: went down. He was still able to find ways to 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: make that offense run. Yeah, So I think when you 155 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: think about what the Rams do have right now on 156 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: their personnel, you need somebody that can be able to 157 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, outside of the Jerseys I see 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: in this room, I see nine thirty and eleven right, Yes, 159 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the most important guy in this room or in this 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: football team is Jared Goff right now at a quarterback. 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: So you might not be looking for one guy on 162 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: one side of the ball or the other, but I 163 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: would say that's your biggest investment. It is your biggest 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: You've got to make that quarterback function, yes, in order 165 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: for this team to function. Well, here's the thing. I mean, 166 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: people talk about, oh my god, the Rams don't have 167 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: any draft picks, man, Like, they do have draft picks 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: this year. We've gotten rid of this with yes you, 169 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and they expect to get the compensation pick in the 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: third round that one would go to Tennessee. Right, great. 171 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: So then Demoff actually said the other day that they 172 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: are also expecting that they could get a fourth round 173 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: compensation pick. So that means you would have a full 174 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: slate of draft picks to go with. You would not 175 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: have the number one pick in the first round, right obviously. 176 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: And that's fine because if Jared Goff does turn out 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: to be your franchise quarterback, I think that we can 178 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: all say two first rounders in basically punting one draft 179 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: would probably be worth that, right. It would be nice 180 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: to be talking about that now, right. Yeah. Absolutely, it's 181 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: a long way perfect story. You know what, We realize 182 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: it's not a Hollywood HOWD story here. We don't have 183 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: a fatil ending right now. But if I'm one of 184 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: those coaching candidates, the fact that you don't have a 185 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: first rounder in twenty seventeen wouldn't scare me away from 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: this job? Why not because you already have your quarterback. 187 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: You drafted that guy. There's talent here, there's young talent here, 188 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot to work with. Yeah, so the fact 189 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: that your draft is a little stunted wouldn't scare me 190 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: away at all. Okay, what about you, Danny? I was 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: more actually going to ask you a question on that. 192 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: Do you think at that point when the coaches come 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: in here and they're looking at the quarterbacks and looking 194 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: at who they have to work with, do you think 195 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: they go back and think about what Jared Goff looked 196 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: like to them throughout the draft process And do you 197 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: think that that in watching him now, if they didn't 198 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: think that he should have been drafted where he was, 199 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that maybe that would shy them away from taking this job. Well, 200 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll say this, four head coaches in a seven year 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: career with the Rams, and the difference between coaches is minute. 202 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: They all say the same sort of raw ra but 203 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: they always look at the best of you when they 204 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: see you on tape, when they meet you for the 205 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: first time, they can always tell you about the best 206 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: plays you made watching you on film. So there's a 207 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: lot to like about Jared Goff. I mean, we can 208 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: talk about his toughness until we're blue in the face. 209 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: We can talk about his arm strength until we're blue 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: in the face. But all his failures, I guarantee it 211 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: will be blamed on the coordinator that just left. Everything 212 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: that went wrong with the offense, the reason Todd Gurley 213 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: didn't get off was held to less than a thousand yards, 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: less than nine It was a really poor year. We'll 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: all be blamed on the staff prior to this one 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: coming in, so they I guess, even even the reason 217 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: of not being able to tell you right now, if 218 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: Goff is the number one, like, can live up to 219 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: the hyper, can't live up to the hype, all that's 220 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna be blamed on the last time. Yeah, yeah it 221 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: will be. I mean, so look, Jared Goff was well 222 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: liked by a lot of club a lot of people 223 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yes, being drafted that high didn't shock 224 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: anyone in the NFL. So there are going to be 225 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: coaches that are excited to work with him. Remember how 226 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: excited Jeff Fisher was to work with Sam Bradford way 227 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: back when. Yeah, the same thing will happen with your 228 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: new head coach, right, you know you you touched on something, um, 229 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: you know you said at all head coach is kind 230 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: of or the same. The differences are minute and so 231 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the time this time of year, people 232 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: talk about head coaches being really good motivators and you 233 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: know you need them to get the most out of 234 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: your players. Is that just a cliche? I mean, is 235 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: it a cliche? It's probably a cliche for a reason. 236 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: But I just go back to thinking about things and 237 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: how do we misuse that kind of phrase? Do you 238 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: guys think misuse? What do you mean? I mean, just 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, oh, we need this good motivator. You just 240 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: got to get the most out of this guys. I 241 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: think there's there's something maybe a little bit too cliche 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: about that. Aspect of it depends on it, don't you 243 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: think I don't want to catch off, but I think 244 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to hand hold people like the pros. Yeah, 245 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: you've gotten to this point where this is your job, 246 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: this is this is what you're making money to do. 247 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I remember at one point during training camp, Wohint coach 248 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Fisher called out Brian Quick for dropping too passes. It's 249 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: like he pays him to catch the ball. It's the 250 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: same sort of scenario here you're getting paid to win 251 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: football games. You can't be handheld through the season. No, 252 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: this is your job, man. I mean motivations. Motivators great 253 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: for college, necessary in high school and yeah, Pop Warner, 254 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: this is different to where you're being paid to do 255 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: a job and if you can't do it, then they'll 256 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: find someone else to do it. But I think the 257 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: biggest thing that's that's needed in the National Football League 258 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: is disciplined. Whatever your rules are, you're going to have 259 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: to stand on them, no matter who breaks those rules. Yeah, 260 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: all pro or undrafted, rookie, free agent. Everyone is treated 261 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the same until you have success, and then your core 262 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: group starts to grow, and then you grow as a 263 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: head coach. But speaking to you that that's where you 264 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: get respect as a coach because if you actually hold 265 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: up the same amount of standards from the fifty third 266 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: man on the roster or even the practice squad member 267 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: to your all star, your Pro bowler, if you hold 268 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: that same amount of integrity to them, then all of 269 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, nobody's like, oh wow, I need to respect 270 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: that guy. I have to follow his rules because he's 271 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: punishing Aaron Donald the same way he's punishing Paul McRoberts. 272 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I heard a funny story about a coach way back 273 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: when when I was playing don't make a joke, way 274 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: back when, way back when, way back when, Yes amazing 275 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: rookies by cutting their hair right, And it hit the 276 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: media and it became a story, a small story, regional story, 277 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: and so he had to answer questions about it at 278 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: training camp and he answered, like, okay, the next guy 279 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: that cuts the rookie's hair is going to be gone, right. 280 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: So he was quickly challenged by somebody in the media 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: and said, well, what if it's your all star, you're 282 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: all per running back, Well, I'll ask him nicely to stop, 283 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: all right a little bit, but he'd already been to 284 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, been with the Super Bowl is a different 285 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: deal then. Yeah, But when you first come in, your 286 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: rules are your rules, and everybody must follow them. And 287 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you look the rookies Jared Goff and 288 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the like. Having your head coach be fired this early 289 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: is actually a blessing because you're too young to know. 290 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: But some of the veteran guys are going to be 291 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: worried about who's coming in, is my job going to change? 292 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: And then if they be worried though, if you're lucky 293 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: enough to remain on the team with this new head coach, 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they'll be clashes from the way we 295 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: used to do it, from the way you're doing it now. 296 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: So it takes a while to rid yourself of the 297 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: old even more than a year, more than two years 298 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: to rid yourself of the old mindset. Well, some of 299 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: the things that you know, you hear from the players 300 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: during some of these the last few interviews you do 301 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: with them. You know in the Lockerman of Danny you've 302 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: heard the stuff too, players talking about accountability and culture, 303 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: I should say, changing the kind of culture. You know, 304 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: you want to be a winning franchise, Well, how do 305 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: we get there? You got it? Somehow change the culture. 306 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: And this goes back to I think one of the 307 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: things you and I DeMarco talked about long time ago 308 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: on a podcast, and you said one of the ways 309 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that they change the culture, basically in ninety nine was 310 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: just by winning, right, And so it's kind of been 311 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: the fact that Marshall Fox was a running back. Yeah exactly. Okay, 312 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: that's a culture changing Yeah, of course, it's a culture change. 313 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Pass was left tackle. It's a culture change. You're just 314 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: saying no, But I so it's a right a. It's talent, 315 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: but then the talent produces the winning. So why do 316 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: you change the culture? Well, you just gotta go do it. 317 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: But I'm saying to that point, the players have to 318 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: understand that they're not always gonna like it. And I 319 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: think that for a matter of fact, they might hate 320 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: next year. Whether they're winning or not, there might be 321 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: times where they hate it because just changing a culture 322 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: when you are so stuck in a certain way, that's 323 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: that's hard as a players. And so you might be miserable, 324 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: but you might be winning, so then you can't complain 325 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: too much. You might be miserable and you might be 326 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: still losing, but you're building towards winning. That first year 327 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: with Vermeil, yeah, man was a based Yeah, but I 328 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: knew the core guys, the guys that made it through 329 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: year one all the way to the super Bowl. You 330 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: knew what he was doing yere one. We had to 331 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: make it through. But he's running people off right in 332 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: front of your eyes. He's changing the culture in front 333 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: of you. He's running off the people that shouldn't be there. Yes, 334 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: and that's something Jared Goff brought up after the game 335 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. He said, you know, some guys probably 336 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: aren't going to be here, and then they may not 337 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: need to be, you know, he said, he didn't actually 338 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: put it in that way, and sort of sort of 339 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: sounds rude as it comes out of my mouth. But 340 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: when he was talking about it, he was referring back 341 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: to his time at KEL and you know how he 342 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: went through the one and ten one of eleven season 343 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: in his freshman year, and he's saying that after that year, 344 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, you got rid of some of the guys 345 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that maybe needed to go, and you kept building and 346 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: building and building, and then by the time he got 347 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: to his junior season, things kind of tip. They went 348 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: to a bowl game and that's the first bowl game 349 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: that they'd been to since I think two thousand and eight. 350 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: So I think he sees the parallels of you know, 351 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: starting out his rookie season in a way that everybody 352 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: would probably like to forget, and the same thing that 353 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: happened and sort of his freshman year back at CAL 354 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: and now it's about building and building this championship culture 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to Los Angeles. Rams you've watched this 356 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: offense this season and years before. I take Jared goff 357 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: Era and when they go off the field on a 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: three and out, do you feel physical pain? I don't know. 359 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jared goff does. Okay, what do you get 360 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: while the defense is still going? Well, pulling her hair out, 361 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: he's pulling dirt out of his face mask because he's 362 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: been nailed, he's been the receiver, ran the wrong route, 363 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. The offense just is moving. 364 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Then he got sex seven times against San Francisco, which 365 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: was an embarrassment. He's paying the price for all the 366 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: mistakes on offense. Yeah, that's what he's talking about. So 367 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: maybe some of those guys who aren't fully committed needs 368 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: to be the first out the door, right And I 369 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: think that that's the point he's getting at. So let's 370 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: get back into some of these coaching candidates. I mean, 371 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: we briefly talked about Kyle Shannon. I kin't want to 372 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: get in a little bit more in depth on him 373 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: because he is such a hot name right now. Um, 374 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, everybody talks about what he's done with Atlanta, 375 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: and you know they've been to number one scoring offense, 376 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: this year by four and a half points per game. 377 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: That's like huge, But to me, it's what he's been 378 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: able to do in places where there hasn't been as 379 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: much success. And I'm thinking specifically about Cleveland. In a 380 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen season with Cleveland, you know, he had Brian 381 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Horror lead the league with thirteen point seven yards for completion. Right, 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: they were in really good position, in fact, to sort 383 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: of make a playoff push. There were seven and four 384 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: at one point. Then they lost their last five games 385 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: in that span, Like Brian Horrier kind of got off 386 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: the rails, and then like the Edicts probably came down 387 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: from up above for them to play Johnny Manziel and 388 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: that was an absolute disaster. And so I think why 389 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Shanahan didn't left was because he's like, I need to 390 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: get out of this. And then he goes to Atlanta 391 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: and he's been widely, widely, widely successful. So I think 392 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: what he has done is proven that he can do it, 393 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: not just with one quarterback, not just with one team. 394 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: He's been all around, and he's done a really good job. 395 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: I just I would hope that he wants to coach 396 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: here because, like I said, I think he's on everyone's listing. 397 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: You just say that he's interviewing everywhere, so he's going 398 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: to have his choice of teams to go team. So 399 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: it all depends on how he feels about living in 400 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: southern California and how he feels about Jared Goff. But 401 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, if you go back and watch, 402 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: you know some of the places he's been where he 403 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: put his imprint on the offense, and you look at Atlanta. 404 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: Now you can superimpose those jerseys onto Atlanta's offense and 405 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: say the quarterback is functioning the same. Right, you can 406 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: see his imprint on every single quarterback. Now, Matt Ryan, 407 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's a finished product, but he's it's 408 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: a great lump of clay to have. He's a tremendous years. 409 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: It's he's a tremendous quarterback to have. What do you mean, 410 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: he's an amazing season, He's not a finished product? Well, 411 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: he's still not a finished product. How can you not 412 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: be a finished product until you're done? Is that what 413 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: you're saying? No, until you call it a day, until 414 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: your whole the Lombardi Trophy. Oh okay, not a finished product. Sorry, 415 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: I can keep going. Still a ways to go with 416 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. But I mean, you think you can't improve 417 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: upon guys like him. We'll look at Matt Ryan's season 418 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: this year, right, Yeah, You've upped the bar. He's gotten better. 419 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna have to get through the postseason hurdle, 420 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: something that's been tripping him up since he came into 421 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But when you watch him play, 422 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: especially up close when he was here in the College Sea, yeah, 423 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: you can't tell me that guy didn't get better. That 424 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: was domination. Yeah. Yeah. So if if you can do 425 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: that with anybody in Cleveland, and you can do that 426 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, then I want you to meet Jared 427 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: Gopp immediately. Yeah. Well, talking about Shanahan to the Rams, 428 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: like you have said that you like that option, Well, 429 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: does he leave without his dad or does that you know, 430 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: with Lesnied still being employed by the Ramp, does that 431 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: come into play at all? I you know, I don't. 432 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have an answer to that, 433 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: But like I said, I have, if it were me, 434 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: I would love to coach in Hollywood. Yeah, I would. 435 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: If you get this right here, if you get this 436 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: franchise from where it is now into the postseason, just 437 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: the postseason. You can write trum ticket, you'd be the guy. Um. 438 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: And the fact that the NFC West with Seattle and 439 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: if you want to count Arizona, I'll never count them 440 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: out with Bruce Arians, Uh, the NFC West is stocked 441 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: and built. That wouldn't scare me. I want to compete 442 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: at the highest level. I wouldn't want to go to 443 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: the AFC South and try to win a down division. Yeah, 444 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: that's not me. I'd like to compete here. Um. I 445 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: want to win everything the toughest way possible. But that's 446 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: just me. Yeah. So here's here's another guy that whose 447 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: name has come up a lot. Josh McDaniels and Danny 448 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: and I weren't here, you know, with the Rams. I 449 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: should say in twenty eleven when McDaniels was the OC, 450 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: what are your sort of lasting impressions from being around 451 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: him up close that year? Um, he's short, I'm just kidding. 452 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: He's very about his football. Um. I love that about him. Uh. 453 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: We were coming in off the lockout. Yeah, everything. That 454 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: was a tough year and it was it was an 455 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: odd hire. I love the fact that it's Josh McDaniels 456 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: and that he's got that that patriot mindset, and he 457 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: worked with Tom Brady the same thing we're saying with 458 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannahan. The problem was you're bringing in probably the 459 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: most complicated offense to run in a shortened off season, right, 460 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: That didn't make very much sense at all. And I've 461 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: heard that before, Yeah, that it was. It was hard 462 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: because on you know quarterback back then was Bradford. Right, 463 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: it was hard on him because you had the trunk 464 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: hit it offseason and you're going that was the second 465 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: year in the league, right, Yeah, because that was when 466 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer got hired in Cleveland. So you're going for 467 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: a rookie to his second year, you get the shortened offseason, 468 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the playbook, and it just makes it 469 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot harder. And it wasn't just him, I mean 470 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Bradford picked up the playbook. It's everyone else. Yeah, Yeah, 471 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: And it was just hard to get that going and 472 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: it just did not work. And you actually had a chance, 473 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I believe, No, it was a year before. You excelled 474 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: the chance a year before for the postseason going up 475 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: to Seattle and you lost to Charlie Whitehurst. Yes, so yeah, 476 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: going into the next offseason with McDaniel as your coordinator. 477 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: This was supposed to be the beginning of the Sam 478 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: Brad for Dara, and it just went backwards in a hurry. So, um, 479 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe he learned from that experience. Maybe he learned from 480 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: that experience of being a head coach in Denver, m 481 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: The second time around, he would do things a little 482 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: bit differently here and you wouldn't have the lockout to 483 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: worry about. So but that playbook and how he coaches, 484 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: love that, love that about him. Um, just that little 485 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: taste that we had, I don't think was the full 486 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels playbook there. Here's what I know before you begin, Daniel, 487 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: I want to I want to let the people know 488 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: since everybody knows I'm a Browns fan, Danny's been a 489 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Patriots fan for so Danny knows Josh McDaniels well too. 490 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Sorta was going to bounce off of that with this 491 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: because because he's learning or assisting under Bill Belichick, right 492 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: at some point does that come into play when you're 493 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: looking at him and sitting across the table and maybe 494 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: thinking about what Josh McDaniels Big Daniels was like prior 495 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: to working with Belichick, Like how much does a guy 496 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: learn from a head coach in those situations? And how 497 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: helpful do you think that could be? You know, that's 498 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: the question. I mean, you'll know how much? Like do 499 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: they talk all the time or is it one of 500 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: those things where McDaniels has kind of taken the reins 501 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: and then Belichick sort of oversees it. Do you know 502 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,239 Speaker 1: their relationship or beyond that, how much credit do you 503 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: give Tom Brady? Right? For Josh McDaniels, I think you 504 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: gotta give him a lot of credit, right, I mean, 505 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: you know it's the so Josh McDaniels, he started out 506 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: as a personnalysis in right two thousand and one. Okay, 507 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: so then two thousand and six he takes over his OC. 508 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: He've been the quarterbacks coach a couple of years before. 509 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Then Tom Brady has like the best year ever and 510 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots have the best year ever in OH seven 511 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: except they lose to the Giants in Super Bowl whatever 512 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: xp bad? Whatever that was. Yeah, I was really sad too. 513 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: And when David Terree saved the world, No, we did 514 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: not save the world. Listen, here's the deal. I'm not 515 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: I was not a Patriots fan but I appreciate greatness. 516 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell We've had this discussion multiple times. 517 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: He he does appreciate the Patriots. I wanted to see 518 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots go undefeated. I'm sorry, Like I know, I'm good, 519 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: Like you just hate the seventy two Dolphins. No, you 520 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: wanted them to go away? Yeah, fans are gonna hate 521 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: us after this. I know they really are. They're gonna 522 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: come after both of Its going to be pretty bad. Sorry, 523 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: I kind of outed Dannel good. But the thing about McDaniels, though, 524 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: is that even in Oait, right, so Brady gets hurt, 525 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, on what that first drive against the Kansas 526 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and then you know ACL's gone, and then 527 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: mac Castle comes in. They still go eleven and five 528 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: and it missed the playoffs. But I think that does 529 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: speak to something about McDaniel's ability to run an offense. 530 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know you still have the Patriot away there. 531 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: So there's something about expecting greatness and dad things didn't 532 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: work out for him in Denver, right, It's it's almost 533 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: whatever he does in New England, the first two names 534 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: that come up, we're gonna be Belichick Ben Brady. Yeah, 535 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: So you almost have to judge him on what he 536 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: did away from there. I would agree with that. So 537 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: you've only got Saint Louis for the year and then, Yeah, 538 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: but I think he's changed as a coach since then. 539 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, he's still a hot candidate out 540 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: there and I'd love to interview him. But same thing 541 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia on the other side, just gonna ask 542 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: you about him. I mean, great year. I mean, do 543 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: you ever talk about New England's defense? We people don't 544 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: talk about it enough. And that's another thing. They're like 545 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: two and a half points better than the Giants in 546 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: terms of scoring defense. Patriots finished number one, only allowed 547 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: fifteen points six points per get two hundred and fifty 548 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: points all years. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, that's stupid. It 549 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: is you should be talking about that first, and then Brady, Yeah, 550 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: that is that is ridiculous production on one side of 551 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: the ball. And so, okay, the thing I love about 552 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is like he could have been a rocket scientist. 553 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that cool? Yes, he went toself to tiny, tiny school, 554 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: was trying to be exactly like you said, a rocket scientist, 555 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it was like, Okay, 556 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna latch on it and learn the coaching thing. 557 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: I just I mean, he's probably brilliant. I would love 558 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: to sit down and interview with him and just talk 559 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: about yeah life. You know, I'm being I'm curious to 560 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: know how smart he If you had a job as 561 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: a rocket scientist, or you could be a head coach 562 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Rocket do rocket scientists go 563 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: to the moon? Because that no, right, I'm this planet. 564 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: You are you going into space? Yeah? You would go 565 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: into space. I think the Aliens and I would be friends. 566 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: What First of all, we don't know if we're gonna 567 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: get into this now I want to get into this. God, 568 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: you guys you got would you would go like to 569 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: the moon if you had the opportunity to go to 570 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: the moon. Absolutely. I remember them talking about how eventually 571 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: they would get it so people could like take their vacation. Yeah. Yeah, 572 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: like SpaceX Elon Musk he's working on that. What did 573 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you say, SpaceX? Space X say that slower next? Yeah, 574 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: space Josh bleep that everybody, boy, go ahead, space X. 575 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: This is the guy who makes the Tesla. I got you. Yeah, 576 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: I would go on a family vacation up to the moon, 577 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: so you would not do this. You're like, yeah, I'm 578 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: not leaving this planet. No, haven't you seen like the 579 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: space movies? Yeah, but haven't you seen people get eaten 580 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: by sharks? Do you go in the ocean? Yeah, But 581 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: like I mean, if somebody says Shark, I'm liking jos 582 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: is a great movie. But like, if somebody starts saying Shark, 583 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm getting the hell out. You swim home from the moon, Okay, right, 584 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: I haven't. I may be able to survive right right 585 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: up there, no one know, something bad happens and you're 586 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: you're done. But think about it. You know how they're 587 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: like the bouncing and the twirling. It would be fun 588 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: once you go up there. Hey, you can do zero 589 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: gravity stuff here, that's why. Yeah, we can do that. 590 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. All right, Now we can get back 591 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: into the coasting stars. Now. I thought that was a 592 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: fun tangent um. So you and I were texting DeMarco 593 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: earlier this week and we kind of got on something 594 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: that I think is a good topic. I'm a RAMS fan, 595 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: by the way, so am I. Yeah, we're all RAMS 596 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: fan ahead. Anyway, why are you doing that? Just why 597 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: you would just say, like obviously, like we don't want 598 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: the RAMS to be success. I didn't say that. You 599 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: just just you know, you know what, You and I 600 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: are on the sidelines together every single game, every single game? 601 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: How much? How often a game? Yeah? Do I grum 602 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: and squeeze your arm um at least four or five times? Yeah? Okay, 603 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: big situations. So you're gonna call me not a MS fan. 604 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: I just said I'm a RAMS fan. I didn't say 605 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: you worked. You did. You said she's a Patriot fan. 606 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: You said, I said she, I said she screw up. 607 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I outitors growing up as being a patriot. 608 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: You said patriot fan. That's what you said. Anyway. Yeah, 609 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to move into this nice topic. Go ahead, 610 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: let's hear where you know you have more of under 611 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: the radar kind of candidates. And one of these names 612 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: that came up with Steve Wilkes, and I texted you 613 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: about him, asking what you knew about him because he 614 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: had been a coach at Washington. We shook hands. Once 615 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I went up I was working for Fox Sports Midwest 616 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: or whatever, Fox Sports News whatever was, went up there 617 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: to do a Washington game to meet with Tyrone Willingham, 618 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: and I got to meet him on the way out 619 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: to a game. Yeah, sharp guy. You can tell a 620 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: lot by a guy that by tell a lot from 621 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: a coach. By the way he walks. This guy walks 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: with a purpose. Okay, he's not just wasting time and 623 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: all his dbs they play the same way. I mean, 624 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: it's it's really really a disciplined approach. Yeah. I thought 625 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: that was more of Tyrone Willingham. Turns out it's really 626 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: him and that's why he hired him. So it's good 627 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: to see him being talked about as a potential head 628 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: coaching candidate. But it was it was a brief meeting, 629 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes, but I was really really impressed. Yeah. 630 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: One of the things that you know, looking him up 631 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: and researching him a little bit, Ron Rivera going back 632 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: a couple of years. He made him his assistant head coach, 633 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: probably for a reason, and he's sort of been considered 634 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: the I don't know, defensive coordinator in waiting, if you will, 635 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott reportedly getting all these interviews, you know, 636 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: when he's been going out and it looked like he 637 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: might get a head coaching job last year it didn't happen. 638 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: But so one of the things that Rivera said that 639 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: I read, I think it was a Charlotte Observer story, 640 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: and so he was talking about how, you know, I 641 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: don't even know if I really want to do this interview, 642 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: because like I think, this man is going to be 643 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: a really good head coach in this league and he's 644 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: going to be a good defensive coordinator first, and so 645 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: so these under the radar names sometimes you think about 646 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: guys like Mike Tomlin, like a Mike McCarthy. You know, 647 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: these guys were really kind of under the radar, and 648 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: then they go on and they become very successful even 649 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: though they're not the hot name, so to speak. You know, 650 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. When you will 651 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: everybody be upset and up in arms if they haven't 652 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: heard too much about the ram's new head coach. Yes, 653 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: did you go back and read some of the stuff 654 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy when he was hired and how the 655 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers fans felt about him? Oh? Yeah, And 656 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: now how do they feel about it? They probably feel 657 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: pretty good saying that. I'm just saying, like, hold onto 658 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: your seatbelt a little. But at least in miles A 659 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: nice position for sure for the feedback that will come 660 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: out of a maybe lower name. But that's okay if 661 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: you believe in them, if the organization believes in them, 662 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: I completely agree. But definitely hold on your seatbelt because 663 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: the ride it's definitely not as in September. Thank you. 664 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be happy, exactly, and that's the most 665 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: important thing. And it's not just the WS in September, 666 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: but you got to keep it going December, Yeah, through 667 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: December and through January and in the February. Eventually we 668 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: did the September w thing. Yeah, we did. It was 669 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: three and one and September we were rolling. Yeah, wasn't 670 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: that nice? Remember when back in the day when they 671 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: were three and one. You know, you come off the 672 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: plane from Arizona. It was a nice fifty minute plane flight, right, 673 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: let's go back to that. It was like my birthday week. 674 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it tasted better. Yeah, everything was good. 675 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: So that's what the RAMS are trying to get back 676 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: to you, and they're trying to sustain that caught me 677 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: into this a little memory lane. I was sitting. Yeah, 678 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: that was a nice time. Was um what what other 679 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: names have intrigued you guys that have been connected to 680 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: the right. See Anthony Lynn. That name popped up because 681 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I played against him when he was in San Francisco, 682 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: and I believe Denver special teams guy. And this is 683 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: how we used to do it way back when the 684 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: whole team sits for special teams meetings. So the one 685 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: thing that our special teams coaches kept talking about when 686 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: we played the forty nine ers was this guy Okay, 687 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: And that means a lot to me, especially when a 688 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: team's coach mentions your name, that means you know how 689 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: to play the game. So the fact that his name 690 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: has come up again, that's a guy I'd like. Now 691 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: as far as being a head coach running the entire ship, 692 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but when that name comes up, the 693 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: discipline parts definitely comes through. With an Anthony Winn Well, 694 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the fact that I 695 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: know we can't talk about college coaches too much about 696 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: what they could bring to the table, but do you 697 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: think a college coach would be in over his head 698 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: taking over the LA RAMS job? Well, I did that 699 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: once with Rich Brooks. Yeah, yeah, he was below five hundred, 700 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: went to the Rose Bowl in nineteen ninety four, he 701 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: was coach of the year by far, his best year 702 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: as a head coach at Oregon, I believe, and then 703 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: the Rams hired him right to be our coach. Then 704 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: we moved to Saint Louis kind of the same thing, 705 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: and we fired him two years later. Right, Yeah, premial, 706 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: And so what you're saying is a head coach can 707 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: be in over his head. I'm just that. Yeah, I'm 708 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: going to infer that the college head coach thing did 709 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: not work out too well. I'll just put the grizzled 710 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: veteran Leslie O'Neill, a man of one hundred and twenty 711 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: career sacks already in the back of the room and 712 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: a college head coach in the front. Who do you 713 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: think the players listened to? Well? But okay, but isn't 714 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: that I don't think that it just has to do 715 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: with the college at coach, right. I think it has 716 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: to do with the individual, because if say David Shaw, right, 717 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: David Shaw has been an NFL assistant, there are people 718 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: that speak very, very highly of him. I listened to 719 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: the Monday Morning Quarterback podcast with Peter King. He was 720 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: on there. I thought he was excellent. I think, you know, 721 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: if the Rams could pry him away from Stanford, which 722 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't think that they will be able to do. 723 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna be able to do um. 724 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: I think he would be an excellent NFL head coach, 725 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: so I think. And I haven't sat in the room, 726 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: so I guess take that with like a billion grains 727 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: of salt. But I feel like, if it's the right guy, 728 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: it could work. I'm the other one I want to 729 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: point out to you, just talking when you said, what 730 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: names have been getting thrown out there? Even though he 731 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: said it over and over and over again that he's 732 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: staying in New Orleans, Sean Payton has been thrown around 733 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: a lot. What do you think he would bring to 734 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: the Rams? Is he going to bring Breeze with him? No? No, 735 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: we've got Jared goff here man. Damn. Yeah, yeah, you 736 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: know that's that's part of it. But he's still court. 737 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's developed a really good offensive system there, 738 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: so no doubt that's gonna be. That's one of these 739 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: That's one of these tough things, you know, because are 740 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: you sure anybody? Are you sure anybody but Breeze can 741 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: run it? No? I don't know I don't know. You know, 742 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: I've never seen that offense without him, so I don't 743 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 1: know right exactly. So I mean, okay, so here's here's 744 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: something else that's kind of funny. So I just brought 745 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: up David Show. Right. Yeah, so like Tuesday night into Wednesday, 746 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: literally had a dream that the Rams hired David Shaw. Yeah, 747 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: it was. It was really weird, like I like, and 748 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: he was a nice dude, Like he would come in 749 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: the studio like Danny did fresher up front. He'd like 750 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: do stuff on the board, diagram plays. Oh my goodness 751 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: edit that. Oh no, it would be shot up front 752 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: or something. Yes, oh man, we can keep going. That's fun. 753 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't know I should bring the same two back offense, 754 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: Probably not because we don't really run two back sets 755 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and well yeah most don't. Most some 756 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: do some doude and do it successfully. But my point 757 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: was that, like, I don't know, that was just a 758 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: it was a funny dream. No, I just I've heard 759 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: that before about David Shaw, and I played for his dad, 760 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: Wulle Shaw really in Saint Louis. Great guy. I have 761 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: known David for years. What makes you think he'd be 762 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: a great head coach, you know, because he has success Stanford. No, 763 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: it was more the attitude that he seems to I mean, 764 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: part of it, yes, is the success at Stanford. And 765 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: I think anytime you're talking about a college head coach, 766 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: you have to sort of do the thing where it's 767 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: like what you were just saying, like, Okay, are they 768 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: going to listen to the grizzled veteran? Are they going 769 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: to listen to the college coach? And I think because 770 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: he has been in the NFL, I think he has 771 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: a better handle of probably how to read an NFL room, Yeah, 772 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, a better read out, to handle the team 773 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: meeting room, handled the team in general. And so what 774 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: he was saying on that podcast was that when you're 775 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: in college, you know, you are basically taking care of 776 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: somebody's the hugest, most important possession, you know, their child, 777 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: And when were in the NFL, you're just paying somebody 778 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: to do a job. You know, like you do this 779 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: job or I'm cutting it. It's not the teaching necessarily 780 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: aspect of it. It's we have to do everything to win. 781 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: But I think the other side of that, as well 782 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: as when you're talking about a college coach, and if 783 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: he could come into the NFL. Look at the RAMS team. 784 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: How young is the Rams really young? He's very he 785 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: stid dealing with eighteen to twenty one to twenty two 786 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: year old people. Yeah, which fills up the RAMS roster. 787 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: Might be good, Might be great for Jared Goff, might 788 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: be yeah. Can he get through to people that are 789 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: that age. Might be good for Rob Havenstein perhaps, Yeah, 790 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: it could be good for Greg Robins. I'm just playing 791 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate. Here's coming in from college. You look at 792 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: the Rams roster. It struggled. We struggled to come up 793 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: with somebody that was thirty years old earlier in the show, 794 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: same kind of idea. Yeah, so maybe that Maybe that's 795 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, one of these things where I think the 796 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: most important aspect of it though, is just getting the 797 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: right person, you know, and whether that some of these 798 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: guys that they've interviewed. We had, you know, with Sean McVeigh, 799 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: even though he's thirty, you know, Kyle shanahan, Patricia McDaniels, Wilkes, 800 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: all these different guys. Harold Goodwin actually is an interesting 801 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: name that I think maybe more of a contender than 802 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: people are maybe giving him credit for and I don't. 803 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that from inside information. I just I 804 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: think he's got a good resume and I think he 805 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: can really bring some things to the table that would 806 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: be good for the Rams. Well, I was going to 807 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: ask you guys this side of the business and just 808 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: going all the way back to one of the first 809 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: names that was thrown out there when Jeff Fisher was fired. 810 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: If you're John Gruden, would you leave television? If no, 811 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean you've got You've got the number one job 812 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: in football. Yeah, I wouldn't. If it were me, I wouldn't. 813 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I think you you hung 814 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: it up already. You've got a ring. Yeah, you won 815 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: the championship. What more is there to accomplish. You know 816 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: what's better? I think you came too. I think you 817 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: have the ability of ruining your name almost How how 818 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: can you ruin your name? What if it doesn't go well, 819 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: you go back to the booth. Yeah, it's like Michael 820 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Jordan come back and playing again, though he didn't ruin 821 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: his I'm still buying his shoes, Yeah exactly. And what's 822 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: funny now is that you know, like people don't and 823 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: people my age or your age any how much do 824 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: we really remember Jordan from the Bulls, right? Like people 825 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: know him because of shoes kind of those couple of 826 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: seasons for the Wizards anyway, But that doesn't mean that 827 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: you don't know Jordan's the goat, right, Like everybody knows 828 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: that Jordan's the goat. Well, you know, I would assume. 829 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this that John Bruden got 830 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: into football to be one of the greatest coaches ever, 831 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: sure right to be to put his name in in 832 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: that same group. Now, when you talk about greatest coaches ever, 833 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: when does his name come up? Now? I know there's 834 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: only I mean, like he's everybody thinks that he was 835 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: a very good football coach. But I'm like, if you're 836 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: saying greatest coaches of all time, I don't I don't 837 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: think I'm being like a jerk by saying I don't 838 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: know that he would be up there if you if 839 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: you ask fan opinion, it's funny. I put it just 840 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: a random Twitter question out there and ask the fans 841 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: who they would want. And I actually took like a 842 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: tally because I was very curious to know who would 843 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: pop the top of that list. And Shanahan and Peyton 844 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: led that list, but very close behind was Gruten. See, 845 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: he's always going to be out there. Yeah, he's always 846 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: going to be out there. And the one thing that 847 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: the knock is that he won that Super Bowl with 848 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee's team. Yeah. Um, if I'm him, I might 849 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: want to correct that. If it matters, it might not. 850 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: I like John Madden back in the day, when you 851 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: hear the name Madden, you think video game. You forget 852 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: that this guy was actually on the sideline at one point. 853 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: So maybe in today's NFL, which is all wide open passing, 854 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: John Bruden and his offense would love to come back 855 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: and compete at this level. Um. The thing about Harbaugh 856 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: coming back to the NFL, I know, there's only one 857 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: thing you can't do in college. You can't win. That's 858 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: the only thing you can't do in college. It's gonna 859 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: drive every one of those guys, even Nick Saban, at 860 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: some point, to try his hand at the NFL. You know, Saban, 861 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: I think the ship is sailed, and I think that 862 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: it's just my opinion, but I think he's realized that 863 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: the one he's chasing is Bear Bryant and not necessarily 864 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, because he can. He can be 865 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: the greatest college coach of all time. I have a 866 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: hard time thinking that Saban is going to come in 867 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: and win a super Bowl with the way that everything 868 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: went down with the Dolphins in particular. You know, I 869 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that it's going to be 870 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: rough to run the same system. Right. You can't recruit, 871 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: You cannot recruit people on the NFL to just beat them. 872 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: You can't say anymore exactly. That's another point. So let's 873 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: take a couple of Twitter questions, because usually I throw 874 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: out I know you hate it, but too bad if 875 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to answer him, Danny and I will, 876 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure you'll want to chime in because 877 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: you like talking. So yeah, no I do that. I 878 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: threw out, like, you know, hey, I ask us some 879 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: questions and usually name or some kind of Twitter handle. 880 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of some kind of try handles. But yeah, 881 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: I usually we don't get to the Twitter questions, but 882 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: I today we will. So this one first one's from 883 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: at raging ram Fan, and it is it's a good one. 884 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: Do any stop stop insulting the people you are That's 885 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: not an insult ahead, stop it all right? Goodness at 886 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: raging RAMS fan asks do any of the current Rams 887 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: assistant coaches have a chance at being retained? And how 888 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: important is this in player development? Cool? I think this 889 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: is a good question. I'm interested to know you're you're 890 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: answer on this one. But I mean, just looking at Fossil, 891 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: I think I don't think you get a better special 892 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: teams coach in the league. And I think unless whoever 893 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: comes in as head coach, unless his guy just happens 894 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: to be a special teams coordinator, I think Fossil has 895 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: a really good shot of staying. Yeah, I'm with you, um, 896 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: same mindset. There's two rooms I don't want to upset. 897 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: Number one is the special team's room, right I e. 898 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker, He's the best putter in the league. I'd 899 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 1: like to keep that going. But I think bones Fossil. 900 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: His resume speaks for itself, but I would like to 901 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: keep that going if they could. The other room is 902 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: a d line room. I want to keep ninety nine happy. Yes, 903 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't want anyone or anything to change his career 904 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: path where he's headed right now, so I'd agree, And 905 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: that does happen with new coaches. They always want to 906 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: put their new imprint and they want to take away 907 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: something you do best or make you do something you 908 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: don't like. If I could keep the D line coach 909 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: and the special teams coach, I'd be very happy. Yeah, 910 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that has come up, 911 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: and I agree with you too, Defar, there's those two 912 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: coaches in particular. But one thing that came up from 913 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: rap report of NFL Network today was that, you know, 914 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: some of the rams defensive coaches are kind of hanging 915 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: around thinking that maybe if the Ram's hire an offensive coach, 916 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: then some of those defensive staff guys might be retained. 917 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: So that's one of the things that is out there 918 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: on the report. Hey, quick sidebar. Since we brought up Fossil, 919 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: how impressed were you guys at the job he did 920 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: as interim head coach? Man Very, I guess that's that's tough. Yeah, 921 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: to go from working for a guy to seeing that 922 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: guy get fired and then you become the guy. Yeah, 923 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: it's tough, and then you have to go to Seattle 924 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: in a short week. I wish they would have got 925 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: a victory out of it at some point, but from 926 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: what he had to do, on the job he was handed. 927 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: I think he did a great job. I completely agree, 928 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at the type of 929 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: person Boneses and you've been able to see that he 930 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: gets emotional and press conferences, he's an emotional guy. He's 931 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: a motivating guy. But on top of all of that, 932 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: I know he feels like, you know those cliche things, 933 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: my daughters were born on the practice field around Jeff Fisher, 934 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: Like that's something that actually sinks in to him day 935 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: by day. So I know that walking into that situation 936 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: and walking into that press conference the day coach Fisher 937 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: got fired, excuse me and walk in and be the 938 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: interim head coach and be able to take command of 939 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: the room and really say, look, I'm going to do 940 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: my best. Yeah, I'm not going to change things because 941 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: we've got X amount of games left, but I'm going 942 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: to do my best to motivate the team. Even when 943 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: it was after that San Francisco game when everybody felt 944 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: like they got punched in the stomach, there's one more 945 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: to go, and he's still saying there's gonna be a 946 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: way that he's going to try and motivate this team. 947 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: That's a guy that's not going to quit. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Danny, 948 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: before we move on, I gotta I gotta go back 949 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: to this because you just said that his daughters were 950 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: born on the practice field. No, but I will say 951 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: I will say though fat come out onto the f However, however, 952 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 1: his second daughter was born. The first day of training camp, 953 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: Fossil showed up to training camp. Coach Fisher walked up 954 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 1: to him and said, excuse me, why are you here. Yeah, 955 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 1: he was like training camp coach. He was like, get 956 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah, your daughter's That's one thing I 957 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: did always respect about Jeff Fisher is that when something 958 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: would happen, you always say, that's more important than what 959 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: we're doing, you know, And I did always respect that. 960 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 1: So next sort of question from Roman A Flores at 961 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 1: Row RAMS seven sixty seven and we're Stigama Fossil. He said, 962 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: I like how Fossils said chemistry needs to improve from 963 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: top to bottom in order for the Rams to get better. 964 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: Your thoughts question mark question mark chemistry. Well, that's the 965 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: one thing I can take away from your lack of 966 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: production or lack of scoring on offense. Gotta be chemistry. Yeah, 967 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: we talked about this. When you start seeing September August 968 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: mistakes in December. Yeah, yeah, you don't have much chemistry 969 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: on offense, so at least on that side of the ball, 970 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: I can say, yeah, continuity, they did not gel. However 971 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: you want to say it. The chemistry wasn't their offense. 972 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: I think that you could kind of say that just 973 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: by watching how it all continuously unfolded, because I think 974 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: at some point, when things hit the fan, you can 975 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: do one of two things. You can either come together 976 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: or you can go apart. And I'm not saying that 977 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 1: they went apart, but different philosophies. Everybody's got some sort 978 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: of ego in this league. How can you not right? 979 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: So different egos, different mindsets, different philosophies banging against each 980 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: other to not still not have touchdowns. I think that 981 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: there had to have been something going on. I don't 982 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: know what it is, right, And one thing I have 983 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: to say this, I never saw anybody pointing fingers either 984 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: even when, which is why there's which is why I'm 985 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: sitting here telling you I don't know what's going on, right, 986 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: because I literally got front row seat, as do you, 987 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: as do you for us to sit here and be 988 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know, right, Yeah, it shows 989 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: that they weren't pointing people out or are yelling at 990 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: each other exactly. And that's what that's what Fossil was 991 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: talking about too. You know, it's this kind of this. 992 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: He said this at his end of the season press 993 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: conference back on Mondays, Like, you know, it's not that 994 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: everybody was pointing fingers. It's just that, for whatever reason, 995 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just we may not have been pulling on 996 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 1: in the same direction. And I think that's the biggest 997 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: thing he was trying to talk about. You know, whoever 998 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: the next head coaches has got to be able to 999 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: set up the rams for success and set up the 1000 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: rams to all be pulling in the same direction. I 1001 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: think that's what he means by chemistry, and I thought 1002 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: that that was a really good point from him. You know, 1003 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: the failures, the teams that didn't win, the teams that 1004 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: were on that did not win. Um. I can remember 1005 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: several voices trying to get us going in the right direction, 1006 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's odd when we did win, I can only 1007 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: remember one. It was all real. Yeah, It's it's odd 1008 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: how that happens, right when everybody's on the same page, 1009 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: We're all saying the same stuff. But when we weren't winning, 1010 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: even after the Super Bowl. Yeah, when the team failed 1011 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: to qualify for a Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl, 1012 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: there was there was more than one voice on the 1013 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: football team. But when you're winning, it's always just one guy. 1014 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: Winning is the best perfume there is. It's great deodorant, 1015 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: covers up a lot of stinks. That does. All right, 1016 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: So let's before we get out of here, let's kind 1017 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: of talk about some of these playoff matchups this year. 1018 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: I love the NFL playoffs. So first one up is 1019 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: Richish Texans Saturday, one thirty five Pacific, which is a 1020 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: little early. This is another thing I'm gonna have to 1021 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: now adjust take in the Texans. Anybody I was gonna says, 1022 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: we're sitting here in LA. I feel like everybody around 1023 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: here is screaming Oakland. Okay, but okay, so this is 1024 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: a good conversation. I mean, Connor Cook is going to 1025 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: start for the Raiders instead of Derek Carr, who's one 1026 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: of my favorite young quarterbacks to watch in this league. 1027 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm really sad that's broken leg um. But between Connor 1028 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: Cook and Rock Osweiler, what quarterback do you think is better. 1029 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: Do you'm thinking the Raiders. I'm still taking the Raider. Yeah. 1030 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: The only difference is money. No. But you know what, 1031 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: but who's on the other side. You brought up Romeo 1032 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: Crenell earlier. Romeo Crenell coordinated the number one total defensive offense. 1033 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me, he coordinated the number one total defense in 1034 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: the league. Okay, what, I don't know what the hell 1035 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: that was. That was terrible. Um, yeah that was that 1036 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: was a four and twelve. No that I'm still taking 1037 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Um, if Derek Carr were healthy, I might 1038 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: put them in the Super Bowl already I might too. Yeah, 1039 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: but it's that team is more than just a quarterback. Yeah. 1040 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: Great line, great line, good running backs, great receivers, and 1041 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: they can get after you defensively. Okay, So I'm taking 1042 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: the Raiders, all right, Danny, you got the Raiders, all right. 1043 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm taking the Texans, so we'll look at you. Yeah, okay, 1044 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I believe in Romeo Crenell. I don't 1045 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: really believe in Brock Osweiler, but I believe defense will 1046 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: will win that one. Lions. No, this has nothing to 1047 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: do with the Brown I'm going I'm going off what 1048 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: has happened this season. Clowney's gonna get in Connor Cook's kitchen. Okay, 1049 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Connor Cook, good Michigan State. 1050 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: He's he's another Cleveland guy, right, But I like, for 1051 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: some odd reason, if it turns into a shootout, then 1052 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: I might be worried. I don't think that teams shot 1053 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: out a Lions Seahawks. It's an easy one to me. Yeah, yeah, 1054 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: we saw him both. We We saw the Lions once, 1055 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks twice. Yeah, I'm picking the Seahawks even without 1056 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: ear Old Thomas. I hate copying you next time. I'm 1057 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: answering first, all right, but I would pick the Seahawks 1058 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: as well, just be watching them. It hurts my heart 1059 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: to do that, just because the same division as them. 1060 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: But at the same time, do you route on your 1061 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: own division? I don't know, but I would pick the 1062 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks just see. You know. I might pick the Lions 1063 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: why because they've got Matt Stafford has played better than 1064 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: people think. Yes, he really really has. And even though 1065 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: that defense, that defense is I'm sorry, are you at 1066 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 1: our game in Detroit? All right? That's fair. I set 1067 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: a franchise record with twenty straight completions. But that did happen. 1068 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 1: That did happen that game? That okay, sidebar, That game 1069 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: is like such a weird game because when we immediately 1070 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: got on the plane. Maybe that's why, Yes, you know 1071 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: why it's like the forgotten wagon for this one. Okay, 1072 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 1: but you mentioned no earl timers the game. The game 1073 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: is in Seattle, I know, but I think it's gonna 1074 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: be a better game than you guys are just like, no, no, no, 1075 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like thes are just 1076 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: gonna wipe the floor of them. Yeah. I'm gonna take 1077 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: the Seahawks to win because you're playing up there. Yeah, yeah, 1078 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: that's fair. Look, didn't they set a record for what 1079 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: the most people to have Russia attempts in one season? 1080 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: The Seahawks? Yeah yeah yeah, I mean they just keep 1081 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: slamming the ball at you with Russell Wilson. So and 1082 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: the benefit of crowd noise is going to help them defensively. Yeah. 1083 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: And the Lions drone. Yeah, the Lions are down. They 1084 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: just they kind of got rocked by Aaron Rodgers. But 1085 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm pulling for the Lions. But I guess you're right. 1086 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 1: I gotta pick the Seahawks ahead, all right, Fine Dolphins, 1087 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: Steelers Sunday Steelers see it and get that confidence. And 1088 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: only because I've happened to catch a few of their games. 1089 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: Mike Muncheck's daughter is one of my best friends, so 1090 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: I have no choice but to watch a lot of 1091 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: Steelers games. And I just I've watched them come from 1092 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: behind and win. I've watched them go through some trials 1093 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: and still wins. Like, That's why I'm taking the Steelers too. 1094 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: I was just having fun. If Ryan Tannehill were healthy, 1095 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: I may actually swing it the other way. Yeah, Matt 1096 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: Moore is going to be your starter. Who's on the 1097 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: other side, By the way, I'm a Beaver fan, the 1098 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: new Oregon State Beaver fan, and Matt Morris starting, and 1099 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm still going with the Steelers, right, Who's on the 1100 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: who's the other quarterback? Ben Roy? There's no way in 1101 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: hell I'm not picking the Steelers. Yeah, I mean, obviously, 1102 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers are the obvious pick here. I think the 1103 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: Steelers are really the team that can go to New England, 1104 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: beat New England and go to the Super Bowl. Yes, 1105 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: I agree, because they know how to do it. The 1106 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: Steelers are a program, right, Mike Tomlin has done an 1107 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: unbelievable job there. He is not just a cheerleader. Yeah, 1108 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: he does a really good job of coaching them up. 1109 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: And I like the Steelers. Seers. Besides, the Cowboys are 1110 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: the only other team that's not going to be intimidated 1111 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: by by Super Bowl banners, right, Yeah, they've got their own, 1112 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: so does Dallas. All right, yeah, so last game of 1113 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: the weekend would be Giants Packers Sunday one forty Pacific. Okay, 1114 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: who you can take the Packers? Man Yeah, I look, 1115 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: the Rams should have beaten the Giants in London. This 1116 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,280 Speaker 1: is true. That's a fair fat the Giants in London. 1117 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: The Giants have played very well on defense, extremely well, 1118 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: extremely well earlier they're the second rank scoring defense in 1119 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: the league. It's seventeen points. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 1120 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to ever, ever, ever go against 1121 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, even though Eli Manning's got two Super Bowl rings. Yeah, 1122 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: we're still talking about one of the best quarterbacks to 1123 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: ever do it. I'm taking the Packers, Miles. What are 1124 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: you taking? Oh, Danny, you're going now, I'm curious to 1125 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 1: know if you're going to take me or because if 1126 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: you are, I want to hear your I want to 1127 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: hear your reasoning behind it, because then I want to 1128 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: see which one of you sort of talked me into it, 1129 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: because I can't I you know, it's it's sort of 1130 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: like DeMarco said, it's really really, really hard for me 1131 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: to pick against Aaron Rodgers, especially the way he's been 1132 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: playing in these last few weeks. I mean, he is 1133 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 1: lighting up the people join it, He's killing it. He's 1134 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: so good. I mean, and I always say this about 1135 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers like people talk about Tom Brady, tom Brades, 1136 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: A good Tombradies, this tom Brady's that. I love Tom Brady, 1137 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: I do. But Aaron Rodgers makes throws that I have 1138 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: never seen anybody else make. I just I remember there 1139 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: was one time, and I don't remember when this play 1140 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: was or who they were playing, but he rolled out 1141 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: to his right, he's on the run. He fires a 1142 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: strike it's maybe twenty twenty five yards to his receiver 1143 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone, like the teeny 1144 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: tinyes window, and then receiver keeps both his feet in 1145 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: and falls out of bounds. It was sort of like 1146 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: the catch with Holmes Santanio in with Pittsburgh said it 1147 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: was in the front of the end zone instead of 1148 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: the back. I don't remember when I saw this, but 1149 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I've never seen anybody else make a 1150 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: throw like that, So I guess i'd say all that 1151 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,959 Speaker 1: to say I will pick the Packers. Did it work? 1152 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,959 Speaker 1: It did? Yeh? Was Jerny Nelson shirtless on a boat 1153 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: this weekend with Johnny Manziel? Oh? No, not with Johnny Manziel. Okay, 1154 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 1: would you have a problem with that? If you're defensive 1155 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: tack teammate invited to the party, I'm going come on now. 1156 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: I liked how Eli said that his only problem was 1157 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: that they didn't have any right. That was pretty funny. 1158 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: All right, guys, So we've been on this for a 1159 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: little while. Any parting shots when it comes to this 1160 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: thing of coach and search. Um hate the fact that 1161 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: we're here. Yeah, I would like to be in that 1162 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: playoff talk we just had there, but it is what 1163 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: it is. So let's just all hope for the best 1164 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: possible candidate to become the next Rams head coach. I 1165 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: completely agree with that, you know, I mean, we're gonna 1166 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: do this where you're going to continue the search on 1167 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: the rams dot com, talk about, you know, anything in 1168 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: any updates that come up. We'll have Kevin dem Off 1169 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: again coming up here just to talk about updates. But 1170 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: really just don't want to sit right here in this 1171 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: position next year, not so much obviously with a head coach, 1172 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: but more so losses, anything like that, whatever can change 1173 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: the culture. I'm with the players when they say that 1174 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: we just want to win, and I'm with them. How 1175 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: about you, SpaceX, SpaceX, I just I want to see 1176 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: I want to see the right head coach. You know. 1177 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: For me, it's not about the name. It's about who 1178 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: is going to come in and bring the right people 1179 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: with him so that this team can then get wins 1180 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: and get over the hump. And whether that is somebody, 1181 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: even personnel, whether that's just coaches, they've got to be 1182 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: able to have the right people and the right support 1183 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: in order for this team to take the next step. Now, 1184 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: all right, So that's all we've got for you here 1185 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: today on Between the Horns. Josh again, thank you so 1186 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: much for getting us through those technical difficulties to get 1187 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: this podcast back where it needed to be. For Defar, 1188 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: for Danny Klapp, I'm Miles Simmons where, if you may 1189 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: be in football, we'll see you next time.