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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod. It's Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod

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Speaker 1: with myself Tamord judging. We have a very special co

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Speaker 1: host today, Jenna Kramer. Jana right, Jenna say, I say,

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Speaker 1: Jenna said no.

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Speaker 2: It's that was good for ok Stak because a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will be like Joanna. Like my husband still

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Speaker 2: calls me Johanna, even though he's.

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Speaker 1: Oh, really okay. It's not John. It's not John.

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Speaker 3: Jena, It's not Johnnna.

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Speaker 1: It's Jenna. Jenna. Hey, guys, Hey, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm really good? You are, Jaran? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Are you at home? You're in Tennessee?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I am in Tennessee. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Moved to Tennessee at the very end of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So it's so you must love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I love it and I actually from Los Angeles. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been it's been great.

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Speaker 1: What made you move?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, we had just had our second in my previous marriage,

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Speaker 2: we had just had our second kid, and it was

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Speaker 2: one of those things where I've gotten to a place

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Speaker 2: with acting where I didn't have to be in La anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so we wanted to buy a place because at

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Speaker 2: the time we were running in Studio City and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to have a backyard. And I'm from Michigan, so

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Speaker 2: I like that subdivision kind of vibe. When we were looking,

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Speaker 2: it was either Valencia or Santa Clarita that we could

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Speaker 2: really put roots in an afford And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: at this point, we should just move to Nashville because

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Speaker 2: you could have.

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Speaker 1: Just joined withal at that point.

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Speaker 3: Right, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, it's been great and I love it

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Speaker 2: so much, and you know, we have a great little

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Speaker 1: I've had so many friends move out there, and it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's it's it's great for kids, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's close enough to places like New York and

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Speaker 2: to be. And for filming stuff, it's been great. I

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of shooting a movie. There's a headline out

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Speaker 1: about Whitney Love It from Sweet Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

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Speaker 1: She's going to be starring in a holiday rom calm

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Speaker 1: All for Love is what it's called, and Deadline put

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Speaker 1: the article out. They said that she will make her

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Speaker 1: feature debut as executive producer and star of All for

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Speaker 1: Love at Holiday romcom from production company The Ninth House.

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Speaker 1: Have you worked with the ninth Ninth House?

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Speaker 3: So, I've worked with the Ninth House.

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Speaker 2: Actually, our movie is number two in the US today

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. That's called The Chris Cowboy Christmas Romance, And

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Speaker 1: Wait, is that the one with Jesse Decker. A.

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's the Christmas Ring So that's out on

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Speaker 2: Prime Yeah. Yeah, okay, now you got to see yeah,

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Speaker 2: but yeah no, Now Ninth House did that. It was

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Speaker 2: Netflix and listen. I you know, we've interviewed Whitney on

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Speaker 2: our show before. We have DMed a few times her

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Speaker 2: and I obviously I'm a huge fan of the show.

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Speaker 2: It's sometimes for me, those kind of shows are kind

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's eye candy. You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: Of your stay in your lane bitch.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think it's I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: I've been acting for twenty three years and I've just recently,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you about.

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Speaker 1: How is this happening?

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Speaker 2: You know, Listen, She's got a great team. That's that's

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Speaker 2: I truly believe that the Dancing with the Stars numbers

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, she knows that she's going

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Speaker 1: Let's see what she got. Yeah, it happens in the

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Speaker 1: in the housewife world as well. I mean it hasn't

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And if she's if she's good, then she then she

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Speaker 2: I wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to agree that business is hard,

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Speaker 1: I talked to my daughter about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, when you come on the show, you need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because how many people's kids are working, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I will say out of all the roles

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Speaker 1: on that show, she's very much a theater girl.

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Speaker 2: I am. I actually want to see her show and

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Speaker 2: I think she'll be fantastic.

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Speaker 3: It was the Christmas move that I was like, oh wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: But I am rooting for though, I really, I really

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Speaker 2: truly am. I need you to appreciate like I want

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Speaker 1: But not not in my genre here.

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Speaker 3: No, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Again, I am I am light years older than her,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's fine. We are not in the same

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Speaker 1: Did we also hear that she got a gig on

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Speaker 2: She did Roxy, and I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Erica did too, Yeah, and I think that's Sarana. They

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Speaker 2: Listen, more power to you take the opportunities that come.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of how I always, you know, say

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Speaker 2: on Whitney for knowing what she wants and going in

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Speaker 1: Would you do reality TV? You said, don't. You don't

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Speaker 2: I have been asked so many times and we have.

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Speaker 2: We have always entertained the conversation. I'll say that, but

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Speaker 2: I've never wanted to affect the acting piece of it.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I see stuff like this.

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Speaker 2: then if that's how I'll get back on a TV show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can handle your Bravo people.

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have thick enough skin for that.

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Speaker 1: Well you developed thick skin, that's for sure. Now there's

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Speaker 3: They try so many times, so many times.

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Speaker 2: You know, they called me for Beverly Hills and I go,

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Speaker 3: But they're like, well, you could stay to friends And

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Speaker 2: So and that's what they said we couldn't do, though,

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Speaker 2: you can't Airbnb and.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, I'll entertain it, but no, well.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to Whitney. Excited to see all that.

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Speaker 3: I'll watch it. I'm gonna watch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll watch it definitely. So we are now going

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Speaker 1: to recap season three, episode eight and nine of Secret

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Speaker 1: Lives of Mormon Wives. It starts out with Jesse and

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Speaker 1: Jordan talk about Dakota's sexteen Taylor's mom's friend. I mean, dude,

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Speaker 1: what I want to see this woman?

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Speaker 3: How do you do?

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Speaker 1: Because by later on we hear her voice, but it's disguised,

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Speaker 1: and to me, she sounds like a six year old

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Speaker 1: I want to see now is it Taylor's mom's friend,

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Speaker 1: Like Taylor's mom's age? Who is this person?

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Speaker 2: I know, I have no clue, but I will say

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Speaker 2: it was a bit triggering watching all of that and

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Speaker 2: then just seeing I felt so sad for Taylor, Like

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Speaker 2: how many photos? And it's like, at that point does

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Speaker 1: And That's what I was thinking. But I think for

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Speaker 2: Do you think that was deserved though, given ye we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're always the one ganged up, then isn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So I get that, but I also go, well, there's

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Speaker 1: There has to be something there too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: than Dakota.

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00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh God, Chase gives me the major eck. Yeah. And

440
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 1: you heard he just got in trouble. Oh did he

441
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah he got arrested. Oh I near that, yeah, d.

442
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 3: U I and a lot of holiday stuff so.

443
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah allegedly, yeah, this is not very holiday. Is allegedly

444
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: Futanahl all kinds of stuff, oh dear he got yeah, yeah,

445
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: it was in July actually July. Wow, Well why is

446
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: it just now surfacing? I wonder they kept it under

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: wraps because it just hit the press like not so

448
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: long ago. So, yeah, he doesn't give me the ick.

449
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: I just think he does stupid things. I think that

450
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that are insecure. He can't

451
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: be alone. I think that he really loves Taylor. I

452
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: think Taylor loves him too. I think that they want

453
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: I would love to see them get back together.

454
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, she's going on the Bachelorette.

455
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: I know, But does those things really work out?

456
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: You know?

457
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: It would be so great?

458
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: Is at the very end, Dakota is like wait and

459
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: then he goes down on one knee.

460
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: Usus, now see now there you are. You're producing it.

461
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know.

462
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Then we see Jen and Ezra, who's Dancing with the

463
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: Star pro but he they meet to practice and all that,

464
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: which is really cool that Ezra is not Jenn's dance partner.

465
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: He just grew up in Utah. He is an ex Mormon.

466
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: Did you watch Dancing with the Stars.

467
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: I was on some of it, but I didn't watch

468
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: all of it. That Dancing with the Stars. Have you

469
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: done it?

470
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: I have? Yeah?

471
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: How was it?

472
00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: No?

473
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm so that was like my so scary to me

474
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: because I just can't dance. I can't dance, I can't sing,

475
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: so I would be like make a fool of myself. Yeah,

476
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: I did a dance. I did the Chow Chow for

477
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: my wedding and I had to literally practice for I

478
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: don't know weeksAs just for that one dance that was like,

479
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, sixty seconds.

480
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: That's great.

481
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: I honestly feel bad that they paired them up, like

482
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: well that Jen.

483
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 3: They picked Jen and Whitney.

484
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I know why they did, you know, Like I Dina

485
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: Katz and I was like, good job casting friend, you know,

486
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: like wait, because they know to have those two that's

487
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: going to bring the drama and it did, you know,

488
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: so you know, we'll obviously see more of that in

489
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 2: season three. But I I love Jen. I think Jenna's great.

490
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: I think she's so cute. Yeah, she just seems like

491
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: so cute, so innocent, so kind. Yeah.

492
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: I really like her a lot, and so I was

493
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: happy to see her on the show. Obviously, Whitney was

494
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 2: the better dancer. I thought Whitney was gonna win a

495
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Yeah, she's fantastic. She and what she did

496
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: with Alex Cooper that was awesome. Did you watch the

497
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: final dance?

498
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the final dance.

499
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: It was great, so yeah it was it was It

500
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: was awesome. So and she deserved that moment. So but yeah,

501
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: I you know again, I get why they pick those two.

502
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they I thought we sure whin he was

503
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna win. I loved just before she wasn't even gonna

504
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: be on Dance to the Stars. Just going on her

505
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: Instagram page and just watching her dance and do her tiktoks.

506
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, that girl can move. But my goodness, what

507
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: a glow up she had. Yeah, I'm like, whoa. I mean,

508
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: first of all, obviously dancing eight hours a day or

509
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: however long you guys do that. She looks amazing.

510
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: She really does. Yeah, she looks great.

511
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: I would just like to go and Dance to the

512
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: Stars just so I can get Who would you want

513
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: as your partner? Well, I want only because I'm friends

514
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: with him and he doesn't he doesn't work there anymore.

515
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 3: But Max Max is great. They just came to Nashville

516
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: to look at homes.

517
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: They do it.

518
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: They Yeah, him and Peto were in my house like

519
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago.

520
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love them. So I do this.

521
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: I did Traders with fun. Yeah, would you do Traders?

522
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: I'll do anything.

523
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: I'll do anything. Oh my god, you should do Traders.

524
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: It's just such a big commitment. Yeah, okay, it's like

525
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: you could be there thirty days. Oh wow, that would

526
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: be tough. That's tough. And then with kids and you

527
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: have no phone, Oh yeah, that'd be I couldn't do that. Actually,

528
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: and you're locked in any hotel room when you're not

529
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: at the castle. I'm kidding. It's I think I think

530
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Dina casts for that as well.

531
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: She probably knows that I wouldn't leave my kids.

532
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. Your little ones.

533
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: Little, right, Yeah, so I've got a two, seven and

534
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: ten Yeah, almost ten.

535
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: That's too hard. They're too little, yeah, too little. Yeah.

536
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: So she stands with Ezra. She's the cutest pregnant girl

537
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: doing the cha cha or the salsa or whatever she

538
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: was doing. You know. And Ezra cracked me up because

539
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: he didn't waste any time getting involved with the drama,

540
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the church. I'm like, Hulu, give

541
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: this boy a contract. He was so, you know, some

542
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: people just get it when it comes to reality people.

543
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Reality TV and other ones are just I'm not going

544
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: to talk. I'm not going to talk. He talked about

545
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, being gay and going I think he went

546
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: to Baylor and just being in Utah, and when he

547
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: found out he was gay, they took him out of dance.

548
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really cute scene. I think

549
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: that that he he should be on the show more often,

550
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: is what I thought. He talked more than some of

551
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: the guys.

552
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: Dead Yeah, agreed.

553
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Taylor and Coda have a photo shit with ever. Taylor says,

554
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: in order to have a future together, Dakota needs to

555
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: be honest and stop lying. And all I can think

556
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: is like, girl, you have no idea what is coming

557
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: your way? Stay tuned and stay tuned like it's just

558
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: crazy and it's sad. It's like shit. And then Demi

559
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: and Demi, I always want to call it Demi, Demi

560
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: and Whitney go to lunch. Do you think Demi missed

561
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: the reunion due to Disneyland or because she had too

562
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: much explaining to do so last year you said you

563
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: didn't watch the reunion, but she just didn't go to

564
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: the reunion. And it's like, they give us date. I mean,

565
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's the same. They give you dates.

566
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: Who's all available? We want you all there for the

567
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: reunion and you're like, oh, sorry, I've gone to Disneyland.

568
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: I got a date with Mickey Mouse, I can't make

569
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: the reunion Like a housewife world, if you don't go

570
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: to the reunion, you're fired.

571
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems weird.

572
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just thinking, like all that stuff came out

573
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: about Marciano, and she's like, I need time to process this.

574
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna say. But then I

575
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: also think that Demi lives in like her own reality

576
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: Do you like Demi? I try not to say that

577
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't like any reality star because it's such a

578
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: tough job to do. Sure, and I don't think she

579
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: does herself any favors on the show.

580
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Marciano text message and

581
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: him and the claims that of the sexual assault.

582
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's all very confusing to me. I feel like

583
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: if you're texting another man about, you know, sexually explicit things,

584
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, talking about clams and penises and cum and

585
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: all these things like that, like you're crossing a line.

586
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: You are crossing a line not only with your husband,

587
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: but like if you're saying he sexually assaulted you and

588
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: you're still texting him like this, Like it just doesn't

589
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: make sense. And I don't ever want to say, like, oh,

590
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, Demi, but it it's hard. It's

591
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: hard to prove with text messages like this.

592
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: I have I have two I have a I have

593
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: two things, and I've a kind of a devil's advocate

594
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: with it. So on the first side of it, I

595
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: agree with when she's like, oh, this is how I

596
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: talk to all my friends, and it's like, and someone

597
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: else had said that to me a guest on our show.

598
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: They're like, well, I text all my.

599
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: Guy friends, you know, hey beautiful or hey handsome. And

600
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's inappropriate. Like I if my husband saw

601
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: a text message from another guy that said good morning, beautiful,

602
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: shit's going to be like not good, right, that's inappropriate

603
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: bottom line, And I don't think it's appropriate to talk

604
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: to another man in that like saying anything. If my

605
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: husband is right next to me. That's how I operate

606
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: how I talk to other people, because yeah, I want

607
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: to respect my husband in every conversation that I have,

608
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: whether he's next to me or with me.

609
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe that Brett knew everything either.

610
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: He sure well, I mean we'll talk about the reunion later,

611
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: but I mean sure seemed like he didn't care on

612
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: the flip side of it when it comes to the

613
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: sexual assault stuff and still talking to someone. When I

614
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: was going through my DV with my one of my

615
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: abusers when I was younger, you know, the night that

616
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: he one of the nights that he tried to kill me,

617
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: one of the first times.

618
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: It's horrible.

619
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: I went back to him and slept with him that night.

620
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: So there's this thing with abuse where you they make

621
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: you feel I was nineteen twenty, so they make you

622
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: feel like you're the problem. And so I'm going back

623
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: apologizing for him strangling me.

624
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I was with somebody very controlling.

625
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can kind of under So it's like

626
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: I think, and I think in that way, she's almost

627
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: covering her ass too with she probably doesn't want this

628
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: to come out. So it's like, Okay, I'm going to

629
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: keep playing this role to make sure that it's good.

630
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: But then you realize when you're outside of it, going wait, no,

631
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: this was wrong and we don't know actually what happened.

632
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: But I also then go, okay, devil's advocate too. She

633
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: is saying a show, a little touch is a shove, so.

634
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: Right, So that's where I feel like she exaggerates things

635
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: and going back to was it last season when they

636
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: had the Halloween party and she's saying, like, Chase shove.

637
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, and it's like and now again Devil's Advocate.

638
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: I will say it wasn't. Any time that someone has

639
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: an aggressive behavior, whether it's a tap on their shoulder,

640
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: there's an aggressive undertone, but it wasn't technically a shove.

641
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: So there was a bit of a.

642
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Uh, like you said, exaggeration on that piece of it,

643
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: which is why I love Miranda for calling that out too.

644
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: And I really have been liking Miranda more and more.

645
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I keep forgetting that Miranda was married to Chase. Uh huh, same,

646
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: I keep forgetting that.

647
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

648
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: I just saw their TikTok and I was like, oh,

649
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: wait what they were married, they did a kid together, Yeah,

650
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: they were singing gosh. But yeah, you know That's where

651
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, what is you know, what is it?

652
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: But I can see sides of people being like, well,

653
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: why would you go back to this person? Well, if

654
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: you look at abuser's pasts and people that have been

655
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: in the situations, this is why. So there is a

656
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: claim for it, but there is maybe a bit of

657
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: an exaggeration when she's talking about a shove and then

658
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: a tap.

659
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is like she's married. She goes to

660
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: where film was it Italy? Whatever? Isn't that where this

661
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: all went down? Yeah, and then she continued conversations with him.

662
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: There's a part of me like, as much as I

663
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: want to believe her, I'm like, I feel like you're

664
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: trying to cover your ass is really not no pun intended,

665
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: but I feel like you're trying to cover your bad

666
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: behavior with your husband. I mean, he's got to be

667
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: upset about that.

668
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: And then throwing Jesse into the fire and then say

669
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: you're say you did this. Why are you trying to

670
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: change a story and manipulate.

671
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: If you're saying that this guy sexually assaulted you and

672
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: then you're talking with him and then you're saying that,

673
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: oh no, it's just that's having an affair with him. Well,

674
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: if he's a sexual assaulter and he's telling you that, like,

675
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't you like think like maybe this isn't true because

676
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: of your actions towards me, And none of it really

677
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me.

678
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

679
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Then she's like saying, the daughter hit face time on

680
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: the phone. So that's how he was facetiming with her,

681
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, none of this makes any sense.

682
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: Cutly, it doesn't.

683
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: I will say, though, they're what in their twenties how

684
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: I acted in my twenties? Was I flirty and inappropriate

685
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: with something? Yeah? You know, so I am who I

686
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: would hate to be filmed in my twenties. Some of

687
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: these says, I'm married since they were sixteen. You can't sixteen,

688
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: so they had to grow up pretty fast.

689
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: They some of them are on their.

690
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Second marriages, Like it's it's crazy. And then then to

691
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: find out that the reunion that Jen recorded the conversation,

692
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, why did you record the conversation? And who

693
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: needs friends like that that are recording your conversations and

694
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: then playing it at a reunion?

695
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's that's sneaky. Only time I've ever

696
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: recorded a conversation was in a heated moment and I

697
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: needed to hold myself accountable to not get heated.

698
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: But I didn't use it.

699
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: As like a a I've done that before.

700
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Payback, where it's like, I have to hold myself accountable

701
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: to speak from a good place, and the only way

702
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: I can do it is if I'm recording myself.

703
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that. I totally get that.

704
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: So but you can't use it in a No, you

705
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: cannot use it like, well you said it doesn't that

706
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, Like it's not fair to be recording conversations.

707
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Right, So the mom Talk Hoax hosts the Pride event.

708
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Jesse is upset that Dakota hasn't told Taylor about this

709
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: sexting situation. So she's brewing over there, going should I

710
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: tell her? Should not tell her? But she she knew,

711
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: she knows it's going to come out. Macy wants to

712
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: be more active supporter in the LGBTQ community, so she

713
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: put prad She cracked me up. She put Pride flags

714
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: around the house. So I said, that's a start. Uh, Laila,

715
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I tried out for the wrong brother. So Layla was

716
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: with Chase and now she's with Chase's brother.

717
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: They seem so cute. I like, I like Layla and

718
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: I like they just like I like you ever together?

719
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried the wrong brother and go, oh, no,

720
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: I need him. I've tried.

721
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: I've tried the wrong friend friend, but never never the

722
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: wrong brother, have you No?

723
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, not that I can remember.

724
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: I feel like, oh, I got to think back.

725
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: So, like, literally, I got married when I was eighteen

726
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: years old.

727
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: And you're with the same man.

728
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: No, I've been married three times? Are you kidding me?

729
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: So I got married. I got pregnant in high school.

730
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: So I got married to my high school sweetheart, and

731
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: then from there went into another long term relationship, didn't

732
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: get married, and then went into another lung got married.

733
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: So I haven't had like a ton like yeah, no, no.

734
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: So Mikayl and Jason are about to go to bed,

735
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: Mikayla opens up to Jase about her sexual abuse and

736
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: how she struggles with guilt and anger, telling Jason she

737
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: was six years old when she was sexually assaulted. I mean,

738
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: it's absolutely heartbreaking to watch. I'm assuming this is news

739
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: that he's never heard before, but he's so good about it,

740
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: Like we talked about earlier, he's such an amazing husband.

741
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that she needs to protect this

742
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: person that did this to her, assuming, like we said,

743
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: is probably a family member. I mean, I hope the

744
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: asshole gets what he deserves. I hope that he sees this,

745
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, and is shaking in his freaking boots.

746
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: Same you know what I mean, like, it's awful.

747
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: It's awful, and I got to believe, like, I don't

748
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: know if her parents knew, but if they know now,

749
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to want to get to

750
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: the bottom of it.

751
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: Right. If I was a parent, yeah, I would be like, who, what, where,

752
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: and what when? And let's freaking burn the place down.

753
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know when I mean, it's hard to tell

754
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: your parents. I know, Like I wouldn't say, I don't

755
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: know if you called it sexual abuse. But we had

756
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: a wedding in our backyard one year and it was

757
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: a my cousin married this girl and her family who

758
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: I had never met before were there at our house

759
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and I was only about twelve, thirteen maybe, and this

760
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: older guy from that other side of the family had

761
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: me set on his lap and I was sitting on

762
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: his lap and then he like started grabbing my and

763
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I just got up and walked away. But I never

764
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: once told anybody, not until like later in life, like

765
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: I brought it up, and I remember talking to my

766
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: therapist and we talked here. She's like, were you ever

767
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: sexually And I go, no, I mean there's this one time,

768
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: but it was no big deal. And she's like, no,

769
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: it is a big deal. It is a big deal.

770
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I didn't want to make a

771
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: big deal. I didn't want to tell my mom didn't

772
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: know this guide and barely knew this family and all

773
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know. So it's like I think some times,

774
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: when stuff does happen to you, you want to you don't.

775
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: You don't want the bigger explosion, and the bigger explosion

776
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: being family knowing, cops being involved, all those types of things.

777
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I get one through that because that's I mean,

778
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: that's a violation.

779
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's now knowing you know later in life going

780
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, that is kind of dub Yeah, that's not okay.

781
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: And when you have kids you think about it, like

782
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: if somebody did that to my daughter. So I even

783
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: told my daughter, I'm like, you'll be in jail. Yeah,

784
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: if anybody touches you, anybody, I don't care what they do,

785
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: you tell me.

786
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

787
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: And the bad thing is is that you have to

788
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: say if if anybody touches you, like, it's usually the

789
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: people closest to you.

790
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I hear.

791
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, even if it's this person or

792
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: that person, you need to tell mommy, Yeah, you know

793
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: for sure.

794
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: So they talk about the betrayal and all that. It's

795
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: just it's just so heartbreaking, you know. So then then

796
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: we get to Taylor calls her sister Aspen and she

797
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: tells her that and that this was interesting that her

798
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: therapist actually called her to let her know that she's

799
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: going to be getting some information and it's about Dakota,

800
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: and she just, you know, she doesn't want to meet

801
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: with her therapist. She doesn't want to know, but she

802
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: does want to know, and you know, talk about betrayal.

803
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Dakota just can't keep to himself, like he just can't.

804
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: He can't be alone. He needs somebody. But to go

805
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: after a family member or somebody close to the family

806
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: is such a betrayal, Like I'd want to kick his ass.

807
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, So we're going to move on

808
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: to episode nine. The girls are getting ready for press.

809
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Fun fact the day that they're doing press. Me and

810
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Teddy were part of that press. Eh, fine, so we did.

811
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: We're at Ihearten Burbank and we interviewed some of the

812
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: girls and we had heard beforehand, you know, hey, just

813
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: want to let you know they are filming this, but

814
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: being on you know, they didn't film ours situation, but

815
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: it was fun. We got to meet the girls, We

816
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: got to do a TikTok with them.

817
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Have you met any of them? I have met most

818
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: of them, I interviewed Aler. Yeah, I may see Leyla Whitney.

819
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

820
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't met Taylor either.

821
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: I want to.

822
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah.

823
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: I think she's cool.

824
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: What a one eighties she's done from season one to

825
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: now one thousand percent. Like, I am so proud of her,

826
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: Like she's, like most times, the voice of reason.

827
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: And I love that she went away too, to that

828
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: retreat center. I think one of the best things I

829
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: did personally after my divorce was I went away and

830
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: just worked on myself, no phone, nothing, And at those

831
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: retreat centers, I mean it's years of therapy wrapped into

832
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: a week, you know, and it's you could see the

833
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: difference when she did get back, and you can see

834
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: how she talks and how she interacts with people that

835
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: it was helpful for her.

836
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: So I yeah, I'm super proud of her.

837
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: And maybe I had to go feeling she either went

838
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: I this is where a lot of people go, the

839
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Hoffman Institute. I ended up not going there, but I

840
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: went to on site because I love on site.

841
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: But where's the Hoffman Institute at.

842
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: I believe it's in California.

843
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Okay, so that would have been a closer, but I'm

844
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: not Again, that might not have been the one, but

845
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: that's where a lot of people go. It's either Hoffman

846
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: on site.

847
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

848
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: I think there's one other one too that I don't know,

849
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: but I think. And it's sad that she has to

850
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: deal with this during press, you know, and so hopefully

851
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: when she's removes Dakota out of her life, she she

852
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: won't let these moments be her joy being stolen because

853
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: of his actions. And I feel like that's sad when

854
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: it keeps continuously stealing her joy in areas where she

855
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: should be joyful and celebrating.

856
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like she did keep pretty calm getting

857
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: this information and knowing it and blowing up. Yeah, and

858
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: then sometimes when you're in really TV, I feel like

859
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: people blow up just for the TV moment and she's

860
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: not even doing that. She's like, Nope, I'm gonna stay calm.

861
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, feed on the ground. I'm not

862
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: gonna over you know. Yeah, it was it was tough,

863
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: but so she's extremely upset about the situation, and I

864
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: love how low maintenance Taylor is. They're all getting ready,

865
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: they have glam in that room, and she's doing her

866
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: own makeup while being upset with Dakota, you know about

867
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: what Dakota did. Miranda reminds Whitney that Demi's false accusations. See,

868
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: the girls think it's all false too. So it's hard

869
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: because you know, we could be getting swayed by the

870
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: other girls, but I don't know. But it's true though.

871
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: They really could ruin his life. Just though this is

872
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: again though, in defense of the other side of things

873
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: for Jesse. Marciano tried to ruin jes his life too. Yeah,

874
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, with what his accusations that they slept together.

875
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: I think he's a douchebag. I I'm sorry, Marciano, but

876
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: just what you did was just not cool at all.

877
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. He gives me the if that yeah yeah.

878
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's no longer on that other show, so

879
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: oh okay. But it wasn't even invited to the Hulu events,

880
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: so I don't.

881
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels a little weird, like he's these

882
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: are two married women.

883
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

884
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Dude?

885
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: But also what are they doing? But also you're you're

886
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: you're mad that she said something. Well look what you

887
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: did to try to ruin Jesse.

888
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, look.

889
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: What you did. Yeah I heard he filed a lawsuit.

890
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: He did.

891
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he did for sure.

892
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

893
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: I think he's a suitor for for basically what she.

894
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: She made up. But I'm like, hello, you did the

895
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: same thing to Jesse.

896
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: He did so, But I think the thing is is

897
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: like saying you slept with somebody then saying sexual assault

898
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: in the law. Yeah, in the law's eyes, Like that

899
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: is like you can't say things like that.

900
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

901
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, So the girls are on their way to interviews.

902
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: The girls have been separated so no fights will break out.

903
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: This reminds of Housewife's stuff, of course, whitneying to me

904
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: or together. Taylor tells the girls she and Dicota got

905
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: into a fight, but she doesn't share the details. So

906
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: she's been very quiet. She's not spreading the gossip. She's

907
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: waiting for the right time. The girls want to me

908
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: to admit that she's been flirty, and I agree, just like,

909
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: just admit it. And she will not. She will not,

910
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: She will not give at all. She won't she doesn't

911
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: take accountability for much, and I think that's why the

912
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: girls really just don't believe her. So after the interview,

913
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Demi gets emotional. I mean that interview, the host went

914
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: right in right for her. Yeah, it's like we saw

915
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: the thing with Chase and then what's going on with Marciano?

916
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Like she really was I mean, who knows.

917
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: I think she get wrapped up in her own storylines

918
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: and now she's trying to rescue.

919
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. So it's crazy. Do you remember

920
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Demi's You know, she was a fan favorite.

921
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: I loved I loved her.

922
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: I did tooth one her and Jessie both, and I

923
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: like Jesse, but yeah, I love Demi, Demi and Jesse.

924
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Do you think it could be just editing.

925
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: I don't think some of the things she's saying is

926
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: helping her regardless of editing. Yeah, because I know, like

927
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't like how she's treating Jesse.

928
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't like.

929
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the thing funny thing with Real TIV

930
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: is like she could say a million nice things to Jesse, sure,

931
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: and then they don't show any of that, and all

932
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: they're going to do is show that.

933
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: Well that's the beauty and the empathy that you have

934
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: because you're in that world.

935
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then Jen saying that Demi's manager called

936
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: her man manager or surfer with the seasoned desists letter

937
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: to shut her up. But then Demi it's like, bring it,

938
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: show it, let's go, let's go, which I she probably

939
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: did or threatened her with it, right, threatened her with

940
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: it more than anything. Which whatever. Yeah, I've had a

941
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: few in my life. I've sent a few in my life.

942
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Then Taylor gets ready for Jimmy Kimmel. These girls, their

943
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: world is just turned upside down. All these sane It's insane, right,

944
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything so quick, like just fame fame.

945
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

946
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: I think it's a you know, it's it's a different concept,

947
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: even though it's still the same concept because it's women.

948
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

949
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it has that housewives vibe, but it's

950
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 2: on the Mormon side of things, and.

951
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: It's do you think that Hulu's going to franchise this show? Couldn't?

952
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how they could. I don't know. This

953
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: isn't most because.

954
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: It's like younger it's like younger Housewives. So it's basically

955
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: what it is. It's the same interesting model is.

956
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: What we have and have had for twenty years, right,

957
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: So I feel like they'll always be the stars.

958
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So they're getting ready for Jimmy Kimmel. Taylor

959
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: to her mom about Dakota, and her mom is pissed off.

960
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Taylor's like, Mom, you have to just laugh at it

961
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: or you'll get depressed. I'm like, okay, okay, but her

962
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: mom is livid. Her brother's with her. Taylor tells us

963
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: just how crazy her family is, and it's like, girl,

964
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell us. We know, we know.

965
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: We've seen your family dinners, We've seen the interaction between

966
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: you guys. And then did you touch that scene where

967
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: the guys what guys? Were They two guys out by

968
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: the pool at the hotel talking about how they're gonna

969
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: quit their jobs and they're just gonna get triple strollers.

970
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna live in la and nothing says Mormon like

971
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: having a triple stroller. And I'm like, yeah, do any

972
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: of these guys actually work?

973
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: The dad talk thing is like, it's that is weird

974
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: to me. Let's just keep it mom talk. Now they're

975
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: doing dad talking, I know, right. It feels a little

976
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't.

977
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Ikey yeah yeah, ikky. So Miranda goes to Whitney's room.

978
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Demi joins them too. Miranda says Chase didn't shove her,

979
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: like she was like really standing up for her ex.

980
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: She's like, he didn't shove you, and then she does

981
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: like a demonstration like this could be a chef she

982
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: taps her or this could be a I'm like, when

983
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: she pushed her like that, I would have went like.

984
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: Okay, actually, don't touch me, touch me, Yeah, that's why

985
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: you're shoving me.

986
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Do not touch me.

987
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's again where that's where I'm like, Okay, that's not.

988
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: What did you think?

989
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: There's an aggressive undertone of someone, anybody touching someone when

990
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: they're in it, when they're frustrated. But I still wouldn't

991
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: call that a chef.

992
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. What did you think about Demi's call with Brett?

993
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Again, I just don't understand. I wish there was a

994
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: bit of accountability for both of them to say that

995
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: what they've each said is wrong too.

996
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

997
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: So in him just being like yeah, f those girls,

998
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: I get he's just trying to be there for his wife,

999
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's just I know they

1000
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: love the word accountability, so I'll just say for both

1001
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: of them, they're not taking any accountability.

1002
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I couldn't imagine my husband, you know,

1003
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: knowing that cameras are on saying stuff like they're deeply

1004
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: rooted white trash, lying cowards at them all like that

1005
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: to me just shows characters.

1006
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: It's it's like, that's yeah, that's that's just mean and

1007
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: disrespectful and let's not name call.

1008
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Demi. Demi's on the phone and then

1009
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: she's like, I found I found this funny. I don't

1010
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: know why I found this funny, but she's like, I

1011
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: have to go on a double decker bus with them.

1012
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: It's to go to the task.

1013
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: It's my worst nightmare. I'm like, everything that you guys do,

1014
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: being on a double decker bus with a bunch of

1015
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: fans fans is your worst nightmare. I'm like, okay, okay.

1016
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: So Whitney and Taylor talked, and I thought, this is

1017
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: a very good conversation. I love the one on one

1018
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: conversations that they have on these shows, Like I wish

1019
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Housewives had more of it and not like a gang

1020
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: up situation, and uh, you know, Whitney apologizes for not

1021
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: being there for Taylor. Taylor tells Whitney that she's sad

1022
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: about the situation involving Dakota, but still doesn't give any details.

1023
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: So I think it's nice for Whitney to recognize and

1024
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: acknowledge that.

1025
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: And I think we all do this.

1026
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: We're all so stuck in our own worlds and our

1027
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: own pain and our own shit that we're going through

1028
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: that sometimes we forget that other people are going through

1029
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: things too, And so I think that's really good that

1030
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: she also realizes that. She's like, yeah, I was in

1031
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: my own stuff and I wasn't being a good friend,

1032
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: and I love that ownership.

1033
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I did too.

1034
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: I will say, like, when I was going through my divorce,

1035
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't a good friend because I didn't I

1036
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: wasn't asking anybody else any other questions about how our

1037
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: lives because my life is shit.

1038
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're going through stuff, it's hard to be

1039
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: a good friend. But then when you have, you know,

1040
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: you see a friend that's going through a hard time,

1041
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: that's a good time for you to be a good

1042
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: friend to that person. Yeah, because you know, we've all

1043
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: gone through hard times. It's not necessarily. It takes a

1044
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: very very, very kind hearted person to see other people

1045
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: struggling when you are going through something really hard. Agreed.

1046
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: So yeah again, I love that.

1047
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.

1048
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: I love that conversation.

1049
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: So Whitney thought that it would be cute if they

1050
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: fought over the first chair, and every time Whitney just

1051
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: moves her body. I just see Dancing with the Stars

1052
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: and theater girl. You know, she's so animated, she really is. So.

1053
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Jesse talks at Taylor. She tells Taylor that there were

1054
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: inappropriate pictures between Dakota and that woman. And then you know, they,

1055
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, they get caught up, you know,

1056
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: was it one? Was it three? Was it five? Does

1057
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: it matter?

1058
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter?

1059
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean I can't imagine and I'm sure you can't

1060
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: either a family friend or relatives sending your husband sexy

1061
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: pictures of themself. If I have to like text to

1062
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: like maybe do an invitation for dinner or something, I

1063
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: always make sure, like my husband's on it, you know,

1064
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: my friend her husband, like everybody's on it. Agreed, Right,

1065
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like it just makes me feel totally

1066
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and I.

1067
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't like, I don't know, I wouldn't want my husband

1068
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: texting a girl.

1069
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: No, yeah, oh no, I get.

1070
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: No recipe for disaster. I feel like, yeah, the girls

1071
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: are on the bus, it's their last press obligation. They feel.

1072
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: They all feel like it's such a surreal experience. They're

1073
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: all soaking it in. They're soaking in the California son

1074
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: down there in LA with all the exhaust fumes. They're like,

1075
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: we have officially made it. So, I'm sure you've had

1076
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: one of your shows your face plastered on a bus before.

1077
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Have you had that happen? Yeah, so I remember the

1078
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: first time. You know, they don't do it anymore. But

1079
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: when Housewives was brand new, I'm talking probably eighteen years ago,

1080
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: we were in New York, the whole cast. They's just

1081
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: in the whole cast in New York to do press.

1082
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: I think it was before even Watch What Happens Live

1083
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: was even out, and we would literally chase the buses

1084
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: with our face on the side of it, and it

1085
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: was so exciting. I mean, here's a girl that never

1086
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: wanted to be on TV or wasn't an actress, and

1087
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, on TV and our faces are

1088
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: on the buses and all that, and it's exciting. It's like, yes, yes,

1089
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: do you like my question? Do you like Whitney part

1090
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: of mom talk? Do you think that Whitney could be

1091
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: more involved if, to me was not in the mix?

1092
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: Again, I think that Whitney is looking at it from

1093
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: the business standpoint and she's only going to do what

1094
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: she probably obliga, what her obligations are, but that's all

1095
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: she really would want to do.

1096
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: Would you like her to see her closer with the girls,

1097
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: because I've really like, yeah, I mean the same, I

1098
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: mean I do, I do like her.

1099
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: I would like for her not to be always the

1100
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: one that is on the the hot seat and that

1101
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: there could be actual friendship because I do like her.

1102
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: There's there's a piece in me that's like, oh, but

1103
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: she's always seems to be the one that people have

1104
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: a problem with. So if she could have the season

1105
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: where it's it's not. But here's the thing now is

1106
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: I think people are going to be jealous of successes

1107
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: that are starting to happen.

1108
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, there already was who was it was it? Miranda?

1109
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: But also Jen and Whitney from dancing.

1110
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then being on Jimmy Kimmel. Was it Miranda

1111
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: or somebody who.

1112
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: Macy made a comment, She's like, how she got on it?

1113
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like does she still have that publicist? Did she?

1114
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Like?

1115
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: There's already?

1116
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: But also Taylor and Whitney are I think the main stars? Yeah,

1117
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: so like they should be on Jimmy. I mean Taylor

1118
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: for sure, I think they're great.

1119
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah she is, she's the girl up front, and Whitney like,

1120
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: she's just so talented. She really is, She's truly talented.

1121
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: So then Taylor goes to her parents' house. Taylor and

1122
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: her mom call this woman, and you know, I was

1123
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: shocked when Taylor's like, Hi, like, Hi, how are you.

1124
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm like I wouldn't. I'd be like I'd be sitting

1125
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: with my arms crossed, going yeah, give it up, lady,

1126
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: give it up. But oh she was really super nice

1127
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: about it.

1128
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: And then you know that these guys also just shows

1129
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: her character too.

1130
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, then we have this disguised voice, nobody knows who

1131
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: it is. Did you watch do you watch Orange County?

1132
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

1133
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay good because there was no no, no, no problem,

1134
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: no great because then there's no judgment.

1135
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm like I know nothing, that's the thing, and I shouldn't.

1136
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: There, No, you shouldn't. So there there was a disguised

1137
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: caller at our reunion and it was so bizarre, and

1138
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: the guy said, I have information that Tamra was linking

1139
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: stories to the press and you no, I wasn't. I

1140
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: was not. And it wasn't even stories. It was like, uh,

1141
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: storylines and it was stupid stuff like on May twelve,

1142
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I filmed with Heather on May h King. Yeah, it

1143
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: was like stupid stuff that everybody on the cast would

1144
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: have known. But it was like it wasn't even and

1145
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: it never came out. It never came out. So that's

1146
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: where it was like weird. It was like, this is weird.

1147
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: So it brought back I had PTSD of a disguised

1148
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: voice on the other side of the phone, and the caller,

1149
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: whoever she is is she's denying it and she's like,

1150
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I didn't send him a picture. Then Taylor's like, and

1151
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: you're bra and underwear you sent him a picture And

1152
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: she's like then she goes like this and I love

1153
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: when people do this. Oh no, I was in a swimsuit.

1154
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: So then you did send a picture, right, Ah.

1155
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: Like you're so you just stepped in your own shit.

1156
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: Oh I hate it. That's yeah, that's that's all chuggering.

1157
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: She's like, I was in my swimsuit in Florida. I

1158
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: never invited him over other than to cry it out.

1159
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, you are a walking contradiction. And then Taylor's like, oh,

1160
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: the girl's cry it out and fuck the way she

1161
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: said it.

1162
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 3: The fuck.

1163
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god.

1164
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: She's a badass. I love Taylor.

1165
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: She I do too. I love her.

1166
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: So I think everyone will land where they're meant to.

1167
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate for Taylor and Dakota because I do

1168
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: think they're really cute together. But I think she needs

1169
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: a fresh start with someone she can trust and respect

1170
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: and that respects her.

1171
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, and I'm curious to see if

1172
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: she's going to get that on this new show she's

1173
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: doing Hope.

1174
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, there hasn't been many track records that There's

1175
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: been a few.

1176
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: No, wait, I think there's like one couple that's been

1177
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: together forever, like Tristan and Yeah, Andrew Andrew, I can't

1178
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: remember who the he was. He was a fire frying

1179
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: yes Ryan Ryan Okay, Sutter Sutter right, Christa. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1180
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: so they're still together. They just popped up on my

1181
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Instagram the other day and I'm like, oh my god,

1182
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: they are are still together, like twenty something years.

1183
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1184
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Usually I feel like there's good success with The Bachelorette.

1185
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: We'll see here, I'm gonna watch it.

1186
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: We're doing another episode together though, right, yep.

1187
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: We are. We're doing the season finale and the reunion.

1188
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'll see you tomorrow. But thanks guys

1189
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: for tuning in today. Thank you so much for having

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00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: me out. No, thank you