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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Interesting location Today we'll discuss I'm actually a river.

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Speaker 1: I'm beside a river or a canal in Bricktown and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, home of your NBA champions It does it?

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. It feels weird. It feels weird

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Speaker 1: to say, Hey, the NBA Championship. NBA team is in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, but I want to talk a lot of

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Speaker 1: college football here. To start the show, my good friend

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Speaker 1: to Benvolin as we get ready to talk some NFL

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Speaker 1: football Packers camp. Other camps have already opened up. Some

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm a college basketball coach, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say I know where all the bodies are buried.

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Speaker 1: But now a full year into it, I learn every

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Speaker 1: work in this new window of college athletics. And I

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Speaker 1: thought I heard a quote. I heard a quote from

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Speaker 1: Mike Losley. Mike Losley is the head coach at Maryland,

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Speaker 1: and he was He's from d c's from the DMV originally,

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Speaker 1: an elite recruiter at Alabama, at Illinois, at Florida, and

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Speaker 1: previously at Maryland when Ralph Frigian was there, he has

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Speaker 1: done a tremendous job on paper of recruiting better talent

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Speaker 3: Now. They have not won, and.

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Speaker 1: It's very easy to go Hey, let's look at his

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Speaker 1: head coaching record. He was two and twenty six at

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Speaker 1: if you look at Maryland the two years previous to

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Speaker 1: So I want you to take a listen to this

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Speaker 1: it's very, very interesting this new in college athletics and

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Speaker 4: This for me is kind of a year of what

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Speaker 4: I like to call vulnerability. One of the greatest characteristics

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Speaker 4: be vulnerable. And I'll tell you a year ago, coach

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Speaker 4: locks lost his locker room. And for me to stand

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Speaker 4: that I lost my locker room, and it wasn't because

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Speaker 4: I wasn't a good coach. It wasn't because they weren't

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Speaker 4: But what we have to do is we had haves

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Speaker 4: and have nots. For the first time in our locker

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Speaker 4: room and the landscape of college football taught me a

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Speaker 4: even in the midst of this change, to continue to

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Speaker 4: educate our players on the importance of what playing for

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Speaker 4: tell you that if I've got to put my desk

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Speaker 4: Most exciting things is if you ask me what kind

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Speaker 3: And that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: And that's a good thing because as a coach sometimes

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got fall camp.

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Speaker 4: I've got about twenty five practices in July and August

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Speaker 1: Listen, I understand that we all love We talked about

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Speaker 1: this yesterday Lindy's Athlon, you know, you name it, the

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Speaker 1: I'm a college basketball coach, and yeah, I was a

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Speaker 1: as many college coaches, basketball, football, NFL people as possible,

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Speaker 1: and you do, and I can get more information than

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Speaker 1: over the past twenty plus years. But the reality is,

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Speaker 1: up all these magazines anytime I've been flying, and this

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Speaker 1: whole new team year after year. The old days of

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Speaker 1: a I saw this kid played a little bit as

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Speaker 3: As a junior, he started to come on.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a senior, and I think he's going to

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying unequivocally it doesn't happen anywhere, but it

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Speaker 1: the money factor, which you could sit there and go like, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: they need to learn to deal with it. Coaches need

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Speaker 1: to learn to figure it out. But I mean, at

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Speaker 3: You going to be happy about it? Right? Are you?

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Speaker 1: And most people would tell you, like I want the

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 1: I just we have thrown in a additional adult problem

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Speaker 1: it worse. I just fascinated by it. Mike Loxley, like,

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Speaker 1: going to lose the locker room? And saying you lost

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Speaker 1: that's the ultimate nightmare. In college athletics and losing a

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Speaker 1: locker room has always been a part of sport.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You can drop all the pretty plays, you give, all

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Speaker 1: the impassion speeches, but if they're not listening, if they

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Speaker 1: all the preparation you have that doesn't actually matter. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I was hopped on a local show here

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Speaker 1: going to say, man, we had a good year in

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Speaker 3: We got this guy, we got that guy.

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Speaker 1: Now, the difference in that and recruiting back ten years

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Speaker 3: It's going to be that player's fault.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very different, and there's not the

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Speaker 1: grace given as I think Mike Loxley smartly.

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Speaker 3: But like, I don't know what we got. It's like

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy, and team.

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Speaker 1: Sports don't operate in a quick bake oven, but apparently

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Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, it was pretty brave of Mike Loxley.

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Speaker 1: It does explain a lot for what happened to the Terps,

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Speaker 1: feel like, the players fight like hell for why did

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Speaker 1: that not happen last year? And it's a snapshot of

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Speaker 1: the challenges of this college landscape moving forward. Okay, coming

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Speaker 1: Mark Rogers, and Mark I brought you on because last

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say never, but the likelihood

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Speaker 1: It really is amazing, though, how everybody thinks they know

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Speaker 8: So even if OU was three and nine last year,

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Speaker 8: Do you think it was that they didn't want to

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Speaker 8: You'd have to add another team. You can't have an

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Florida State's part of the plan, in Virginia

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Speaker 1: Feels like there's a plan. My thing is, it feels

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Speaker 3: The boys from Oklahoma Concert gave him some money.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they've been able to spread some money out

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Speaker 8: there and find some guys from They took advantage of

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Speaker 8: the fact that SEC would not accept SEC transfers after

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Speaker 8: the spring portal, and they've got some players from the

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Speaker 8: SEC that have come in.

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Speaker 3: And I think Mike Gundy's staff is really rejuvenated.

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Speaker 8: They had been complacent for a while and so they're

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Speaker 8: working harder than they have in a long time. Their

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Speaker 8: schedule at the beginning of the season, they got three

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Speaker 8: out of four of their games in the Big Twelve

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Speaker 8: at home. They go to Arizona those are games that

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Speaker 8: they need to win because it gets tougher on the

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Speaker 8: back end. But Mike Gundy has had two losing seasons

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Speaker 8: at Oklahoma State, his first in his last. He's always

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Speaker 8: better when he's not expected to do well. And so

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Speaker 8: I think they're gonna five and a half sir win total.

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Speaker 8: I think they go over that.

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Speaker 1: He's Mark Rogers, he's my dear friend, my former radio

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Speaker 1: co host, and of course you can hear him in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Let me get you to Isaac Long Crime and get

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Speaker 1: a quick update before we touch some NFL football.

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Speaker 3: Ilo. Thanks Doug.

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Speaker 9: Today, Miami Dolphins quarterback to a tongue of ilo and

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Speaker 9: described our receiver Tyreek Hill is working to rebuild relationships

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Speaker 9: with his teammates after critical comments that he'll made at

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Speaker 9: the end of last.

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Speaker 10: When you say something like that, you don't just come

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Speaker 10: back from that with hey, my bad. No, you got

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Speaker 10: to work that relationship up. You got to build everything

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Speaker 10: up again. And it's still a work in progress, not

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Speaker 10: just for me but for everybody. He's working on himself.

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Speaker 10: He's working on the things that he say. You know,

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Speaker 10: he says he wants to get better with that's the

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Speaker 10: first step to me, and so I commend him for

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Speaker 10: doing that.

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Speaker 9: Meanwhile, NFL media reported Dolphins cornerback Already Burns is feared

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Speaker 9: to have suffered a torn acl today at practice. In

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Speaker 9: Major League Baseball today, Rafael Devers hit two home runs

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Speaker 9: of the San Francisco Giants nine to three victory at Atlanta,

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Speaker 9: as Justin Verlander at long last, got his first victory

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Speaker 9: of the season after starting to eight. Cincinnati wanted Washington

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Speaker 9: five nothing. The Reds Nick Lidolo a complete game, four

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Speaker 9: hit shut out with eight strikeouts and no walks, Pirates

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Speaker 9: over the Tigers six to one by the Spencer Horwitz

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Speaker 9: grand slam. Right now, the Mets on top of the

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Speaker 9: Angels six to three, top of the eighth, Kansas City

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Speaker 9: of four to two lead over the Cubs after four

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Speaker 9: at Wrigley and at Corsfield, the Rockies and Cardinals just

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Speaker 9: underway no score in the top of the second.

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Speaker 1: Doug stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, we

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Speaker 1: turned from college football. Let's talk to NFL football, shall we?

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Speaker 1: As Our good friend Ben Bolden joins us senior NFL

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Speaker 1: writer for The Boston Globe, and Ben Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, a team that when you and I first

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Speaker 1: met that so you were covering for the Globe and

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Speaker 1: then of course has expanded to now the entire National

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Speaker 1: Football League. They go out and get a head coach

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Speaker 1: that I think everybody respects. But what is the right

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Speaker 1: what's the right perception to have of where this franchise

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Speaker 1: is in terms of their level of competitiveness in that

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Speaker 1: AFC East.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the Patriots entered the season with credibility,

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Speaker 11: and it's been a few years since you've been able

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Speaker 11: to say that about this team for the first time

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Speaker 11: in several years. There's not anything about this team that

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Speaker 11: really leaves you scratching your head. Like one year it

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Speaker 11: was they put Matt Patricia and Joe Judge in charge

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Speaker 11: of the offense, and then the other years they did

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Speaker 11: nothing to the roster even though they had significant issues.

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Speaker 11: Last year they put you Odd Mayo in charge of

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Speaker 11: the team even though he had no experience. This year,

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Speaker 11: everything makes sense. You can see the plan and how

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Speaker 11: it's going to unfold. They've got a very experienced coaching staff,

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Speaker 11: a competent coaching staff led by Mike Rabel, Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 11: They have several guys who have been head coaches, like

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Speaker 11: Doug maroone Thomas Brown who was with the Bears last year.

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Speaker 11: So they have a very experienced staff, guys who have

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Speaker 11: done their roles before. They have a young quarterback in

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Speaker 11: Drake May who does have a lot to prove, but

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Speaker 11: I think last year showed that he's he's a good athlete,

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Speaker 11: he can he definitely belongs in the NFL. And the

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Speaker 11: Patriots have a I think a good young quarterback, and

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Speaker 11: then they went out in free agency and spent a

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Speaker 11: lot of money on quality players like Milton Williams from

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Speaker 11: the Eagles, Stefan Diggs coming back from his torn ACL

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Speaker 11: They beat up the offensive line, so you know, I

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Speaker 11: still think their ceiling is kind of limited. This is

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Speaker 11: probably a team that, if everything goes their way, that

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Speaker 11: you know, probably a Tendance Evan team. But there's just

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Speaker 11: there's so much more competent and you can see the

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Speaker 11: plan now, and you know the signs are are finally

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Speaker 11: pointing up in Foxborough after several head scratching years.

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Speaker 1: Here, uh Tua talked about Tyreek Hill kind of making

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Speaker 1: amends with teammates. That sounds good, but those quotes kind

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Speaker 1: of live forever. Uh, what's the likelihood that it becomes

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Speaker 1: Kumbai in Miami?

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Speaker 11: I don't think very good. I think the owner really

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Speaker 11: should have taken a harder look about making a you know,

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Speaker 11: a total reset this offseason with head coach Mike Kataniel

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Speaker 11: and GM Chris Greer. That culture is a mess you had.

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Speaker 11: I think it was Bradley Chubb a few weeks ago

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Speaker 11: was talking about, yeah, you know, we're all in this year.

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Speaker 11: You know, we said that last year, but we were lying,

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Speaker 11: you know, we were we were just giving you lip service.

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Speaker 11: It's like, well, that's not that's not a good sign.

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Speaker 11: That's not certainly not good for the co which that

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Speaker 11: his players are just giving lip service about being all in.

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Speaker 11: And when when you have a team led by when

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Speaker 11: Tyreek Kill is one of your leaders, like that's never

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Speaker 11: been I don't think his strong suit leading by example.

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Speaker 11: And I thought today he Tua had a quote that

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Speaker 11: said his relationship with Tyreek Kill is still a work

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Speaker 11: in progress, which is like wow, I mean they've been

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Speaker 11: together three years now, four years, Like, how how could

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Speaker 11: it possibly still be a work in progress? So there's

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Speaker 11: I just think there's a lot of dysfunction in Miami

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Speaker 11: right now, that team hasn't been very disciplined. They never

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Speaker 11: win in December, they never win cold weather games, they

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Speaker 11: never beat playoff teams, and Mike McDaniel's just I don't

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Speaker 11: think been able to instill much discipline in that locker room.

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Speaker 11: So you know, with Tyreek Hill, he's saying all the

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Speaker 11: right things now, but we've we've heard that from the

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Speaker 11: Dolphins before. This is a team that if they don't

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Speaker 11: have a good start, things could implode very quickly down

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Speaker 11: in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Since that does that Trey Hendrickson, they also don't have

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Speaker 1: their first round pick. You know the what ends up

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Speaker 1: happening with the Bengals.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think both get resolved eventually, but it's

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Speaker 11: like this franchise continues to break new ground in dysfunction.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the whole purpose of this CBA was to

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Speaker 11: avoid player holdouts, but like count on the Bengals, they

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Speaker 11: managed to get it gone with Shamar Stewart, who just

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Speaker 11: wants to sign the same contract that the Bengals have

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Speaker 11: signed every other draft kick over the years.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 11: But the Bengals are the ones insisting on changing the language,

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Speaker 11: and they're they're holding firm and so is Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 11: and I think Stewart would be crazy to like continue

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Speaker 11: holding out much longer. He probably just has to bite

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Speaker 11: his lip and accept it. But the Bengals always play hardball,

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Speaker 11: always seem to kick off their players. They did last

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Speaker 11: year with Chase and t Higgins. They played hardball with them,

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Speaker 11: didn't give them the contracts that those guys deserve. It's

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Speaker 11: spoiled training camp for them. The Bengals started the season

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Speaker 11: like oh and two, one and four whatever it was.

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Speaker 11: They lost to the Patriots which cost them the playoffs,

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Speaker 11: and now here they are again with Trey Hendrickson and

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Speaker 11: Shamar Stewart doing the same thing, and Mike Brown, the owner,

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Speaker 11: is talking to the press and just totally blaming the

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Speaker 11: agents and putting all the owners on the player's side.

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Speaker 11: So you know, it's just classic Bengals, the team where

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Speaker 11: Carson Palmer threatened to retire he did retire instead of

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Speaker 11: continuing to play for them. They're up to it again

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Speaker 11: now with these contraction inagains, and it'll eventually get resolved.

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Speaker 11: I don't think Trey Hendrickson will get traded, but the

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Speaker 11: Bengals are just always causing problems with their players.

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Speaker 3: Is this the year that the league catches up to

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 11: No, I don't think so. I'd be worried that the

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Speaker 11: Chiefs got humiliated in the Super Bowl, and now, you know,

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Speaker 11: I think they're going to beef up their offensive line,

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Speaker 11: They're going to try to get more weapons for Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 11: I think it might be the opposite. I'd be afraid

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Speaker 11: of the Chiefs coming back with a vengeance. Now, you know,

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Speaker 11: Travis kelt Is, you know, starting to get to the

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Speaker 11: end of his career and he's been such a big

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Speaker 11: part of that dynasty. You know, we'll see if they

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Speaker 11: can kind of continue to be such a dominant team

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Speaker 11: without them. But when you've got Mahomes and you've got

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Speaker 11: Andy Reid and you still have Thief Spagnola running the defense,

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, the Chiefs aren't going anywhere this year. There's

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Speaker 11: still going to be a wagon And I'd be afraid

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Speaker 11: that they got us humiliated so badly in the Super

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Speaker 11: Bowl that they address their needs in the offseason and

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Speaker 11: they're going to come back with the vengeans this year.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson said that he wants Caleb Williams to complete

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes. Now, that sounds great, sounds great.

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Speaker 1: It does sound like dink and dunk. And last year

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Speaker 1: he didn't throw the ball downfield almost at all, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, sometimes in order to get

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Speaker 1: to that seventy percent, you're going to hold on the

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Speaker 1: ball and eat the ball instead of run the risk

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Speaker 1: of throwing incomplete passes. What's your thoughts on a first

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Speaker 1: time head coach talking about completion percentages so openly.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's

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Speaker 11: one of the most overrated that's that a quarterback can have,

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Speaker 11: because yeah, is it just a bunch of screen passes

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Speaker 11: and dank and dunk, Like I don't care if you're

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Speaker 11: completing seventy percent of passes, if you're not pushing the

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Speaker 11: ball down the field, tell me what his yards per

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Speaker 11: a tenth are. That's to me the real stat how

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Speaker 11: often are you getting the ball downfield and creating big

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Speaker 11: plays in the passing game? And you know, I think

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Speaker 11: raining Caleb Williams in is an important function for Ben

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Speaker 11: Johnson because I think Caleb Williams likes to take too

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Speaker 11: many chances and he throws off platform and he gets

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Speaker 11: himself in trouble sometimes, so it is good to rain

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Speaker 11: him in and focus maybe on safer throws. But I really,

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Speaker 11: you know, seventy percent great, whoop do you do? But

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Speaker 11: all that really matters is are you getting the ball

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Speaker 11: down field? And so you know that's going to be

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Speaker 11: the real key for Caleb Williams. Not as he completing passes,

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Speaker 11: but are they putting points on the board? And I

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Speaker 11: mean seventy four thousand yards those are all benchmarks that

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Speaker 11: no Bears quarterback has ever sniffed. So it would be

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Speaker 11: a record setting year for the Bears if if Caleb

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Speaker 11: Williams can get there, and he's got the talent, but

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Speaker 11: after that rookie year, I mean, I think he's got

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Speaker 11: a ways to go behind Drake May and obviously behind

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Speaker 11: Jayden Daniels for Caleb Williams to prove that that he

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Speaker 11: belongs in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question that some Packer

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Speaker 1: fans ask me. How good actually is Jordan Love?

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Speaker 11: You know, I think he's good enough that the Packers

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Speaker 11: are ready to make some noise. He's made the playoffs

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Speaker 11: both of his years. He had a nice little run

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Speaker 11: two years ago. You know, want a road playoff game

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Speaker 11: or two. So I think Jordan Love is the answer

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Speaker 11: for the Packers. He can I mean, this guy can

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Speaker 11: light it up, you know, the great tradition of Packers quarterbacks.

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Speaker 11: I think this is this is gonna be a good

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Speaker 11: I sense this being the year, you know, for the Packers.

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Speaker 11: I don't know how deep to ultimately get, but like

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Speaker 11: I could see Detroit taking a step back with all

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Speaker 11: the changes they made in our coaching staff, especially in

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Speaker 11: an offense. You know, the Vikings will see what they are.

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Speaker 11: I love Kevin O'Connell as a coach, but now that

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Speaker 11: they're turning the team over to CJ. McCarthy, they're kind

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Speaker 11: of an unknown. Whereas Jordan Love, now this is his

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Speaker 11: third year entering as the starting quarterback. Him and Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 11: I got to think are on a pretty good page. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: maybe he throws a few too many interceptions, but Jordan Love,

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Speaker 11: I think has really developed into a nice passer. And

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Speaker 11: with where the Packers are as an organization compared to

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Speaker 11: everyone else in their vision, I think this could be

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Speaker 11: a good year for the Packers coming up.

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Speaker 1: Who are we not talking about that we should be

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Speaker 1: in terms of this is a playoff team. This is

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Speaker 1: a I don't know, you want to say Super Bowl contender,

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Speaker 1: Like we always hyper focus on a couple of teams.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are example of we always hyper focus on them, right.

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Speaker 1: We hyper focus on teams who are at the top

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Speaker 1: last year and the Chiefs I think deserved that focus

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Speaker 1: because the consistency of success.

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Speaker 3: Who are we not focusing on enough?

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Speaker 11: So I really like the Rams this year. Even though

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Speaker 11: Matthew Stafford is like the oldest thirty seven year old

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Speaker 11: NFL quarterback, McVeigh the heck of a coach. These young

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Speaker 11: guys like Jared Vers on defense are a year older now.

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Speaker 11: So I really like the Rams this year. And honestly,

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Speaker 11: if it wasn't snowing in that playoff game against the Ego,

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Speaker 11: if I think the Rams may have won that game.

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Speaker 11: So I do like the Rams. In the NFC AFC,

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Speaker 11: it does kind of feel like the Ravens like they're due.

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Speaker 11: I mean people are talking about the Ravens, so they're

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Speaker 11: not under the radar. The two teams in the AFC West,

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Speaker 11: the Chargers year two under Hardball and the Broncos Year

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Speaker 11: three under Sean Payton. That's a loaded division and the Broncos.

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Speaker 11: You know, bo Nick had a great rookie year. Now

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Speaker 11: you know he's going to be a year more into it.

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Speaker 11: Sean Payton proving once again he's just an incredible offensive

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Speaker 11: mind and quarterback hooter. The Broncos have an outstanding defense,

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Speaker 11: one of the best in the league. I think the

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Speaker 11: Denver Broncos are definitely you know, they're a team that's

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Speaker 11: been kind of dormant the last half decade or so.

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Speaker 11: Haven't heard much from the Broncos, but I think Sean

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Speaker 11: Payton's team is going to be a real problem and

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Speaker 11: make some noise here.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, Ben Bolan Boston Globe covers the

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Speaker 3: Ben, good to have you back. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 11: All right, thanks Dougy.

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Speaker 11: It is out of here.

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Speaker 8: Tell really number thirty nine on the season, and he

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Speaker 8: has given the Mariners the lead with one big swing.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio App. Welcome in Hope,

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Speaker 1: you're having a great day. We're actually live outside the

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Speaker 1: river Walk in Oklahoma City where the NBA champions side.

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Speaker 3: So interesting. Yeah, I was trying around this morning.

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Speaker 1: I was like, NBA champions are here, whereas like you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're in LA, people kind of freaking out, run

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Speaker 3: Now like, yeah, we'll win one next year.

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Speaker 1: The favorites again, got a lot to get to this hour,

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Speaker 1: of the movement in the league. And Brett McMurphy will

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Speaker 1: also join us, as I just again, I want to

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Speaker 1: wet your appetite every day with a little college football

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Speaker 1: talk here on the Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: including I gotta ask Brett, like Alabama gotta be some

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Speaker 1: pressure to take another step take a step back atop

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Speaker 1: the SEC this year, especially with how it ended not

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Speaker 1: getting the College Fall playoff, and then there's the rumors

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Speaker 1: of hey, maybe Nick Saban would come back and coach again.

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Speaker 1: Is that actually true. We'll get to that upcoming in

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Speaker 1: about about twenty minutes. But we do this every Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday is the middle of the week. We do an

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Speaker 1: hour pod before the show drops, after the show. It's

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Speaker 1: a three hour run, middle of the day, middle of

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Speaker 1: the week, middle of the show.

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Speaker 3: We call it the Midway. It's not getting the middle,

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Speaker 3: it's time for the Midway. Okay, guys.

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Speaker 1: Usually I take your feedback on the Midway, right Patrick,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting in Jay Stews's chair.

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Speaker 3: I loo, you've done this before.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Sam, you're you're a constant here on the show,

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Speaker 1: and so Sam, I do appreciate your idea of doing

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Speaker 1: the Midway on what your own team when it bottom's

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Speaker 1: out right.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I had this idea. Dave Roberts was talking

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Speaker 7: about how we're kind of at rock bottom here, notable

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Speaker 7: times that our teams have bottomed out on or off

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Speaker 7: the field. But we're gonna save that for another time

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Speaker 7: because you, uh, you wanted to get something uh, you

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Speaker 7: wanted to get to something else, maybe more of the

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Speaker 7: liquid of variety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and no, it's we'll do a beer one at

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Speaker 1: some point here. Getting ready for the football season we do.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do an overall coffee discussion.

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Speaker 3: Woo woo.

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Speaker 1: No, because there are things that have changed in our society,

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Speaker 1: right like uh, and I'm Ilo, You and I will

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Speaker 1: connect on this where you think you're younger than me

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Speaker 1: but about but close to the same age, Samuel a

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Speaker 1: little younger than me.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Patrick your way, you are your name.

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Speaker 1: But it's the idea of when when we were kids,

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Speaker 1: we didn't go out as much, and when you did,

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Speaker 1: if you were going to go watch sports on TV,

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Speaker 1: it was almost always with your youth team. And then

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Speaker 1: it was also to eat pizza, whereas now like wings

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Speaker 1: are probably the wings that become bigger than pizza. I

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Speaker 1: think could be wrong in terms of gathering to watch sports,

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Speaker 1: Like wings weren't that big a thing in the eighties

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Speaker 1: and nineties. They just weren't.

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Speaker 3: Right, And coffee has Coffee is now what soft drinks

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Speaker 3: used to be.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Soft drinks used to be used to stop somewhere and

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Speaker 1: get it and get a big gulp, all right, seven

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Speaker 1: eleven you get big up. Now you stop somewhere and

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Speaker 1: you get a coffee iced coffee latte, very customizable, correct,

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to have the complete coffee discussion.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's start with and I have pre streamed you guys.

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Speaker 3: All of you are coffee drinkers, correct, So like I

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Speaker 3: lo you, you bring your own.

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Speaker 9: From home, Sam, you want to handle this one on

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Speaker 9: my behalf.

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Speaker 7: I describe what you're saying, right, Isak. It's a fancy man.

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Speaker 7: He's got a little coffee cuff and a saucer, a

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Speaker 7: porcelain saucer, porcelain coffee cup. And it's not a normal

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Speaker 7: sized coffee cup. It's like it's a cappuccino. It's a cappuccino.

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Speaker 7: So it's very dainty. Not saying you're dainty, Isaac, but

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Speaker 7: it's a fancy, dainty little cup. And you look very

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Speaker 7: British drinking out of it like you'd be drinking your

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Speaker 7: afternoon tea. But I really respect that because I've brought

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Speaker 7: in porcelain mugs before because I just maybe like I

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Speaker 7: don't want to drink out of styrofolm today. So yes,

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Speaker 7: Isaac is pro coffee. I'm I don't know about Patrick though,

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Speaker 7: I'm pro coffee.

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Speaker 3: What about you appreciating Kat Patrick?

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Speaker 1: He's a coffee Oh yeah wait wait, so wait, Ilo,

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Speaker 1: you you bring it from home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your home. What's your home brewing technique? Though,

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Speaker 3: by the way, whole brew at home? So i'mor you

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Speaker 3: perk drip French press, what do you do?

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Speaker 9: I'm a huge snob. So if anybody has a problem

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Speaker 9: with this. At Isaac lohen Kron on social media, I

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Speaker 9: have just a simple drip machine.

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Speaker 7: But you're talking about with the paper filter in the ground.

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Speaker 3: Very simple.

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Speaker 9: I grind my own beans. I don't get pre ground coffee.

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Speaker 9: It's freshly ground and then it goes right into the

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Speaker 9: thermost to keep it at its peak taste. And I

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Speaker 9: only have my coffee black, no cream, no sugar, no

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Speaker 9: crap because there's a difference between coffee and coffee drinks. Now,

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Speaker 9: if you grind your own beans and make it the

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Speaker 9: right way, it tastes so good you don't need any

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Speaker 9: of that other crap. Again, if anybody out there.

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Speaker 7: Has a problem with it, crap is halfway beans.

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Speaker 11: You know what.

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Speaker 9: I don't get these fruit fruit beans. I think if

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Speaker 9: your technique is good, when you're Isaac wah and grons,

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Speaker 9: you can get average beans at the grocery store like

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Speaker 9: I get the average beans at Trader Joe's.

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Speaker 7: Medium meat right in the middle.

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Speaker 9: But with my skill, I can make them a lot

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Speaker 9: better than most people can make. These fruit fru twenty

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Speaker 9: two dollars bag beans that were roasted ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: He does sound like somebody who shops Trader Joe's, right,

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Speaker 3: he just does. He nailed it. Thanks youself as the

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Speaker 3: Trader Joe's shop.

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Speaker 7: Put good quality products out there.

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Speaker 1: I will say trade, but let's let's not go crazy, right.

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Speaker 1: I still like cheerios, not cheery What do they call it,

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Speaker 1: the ros Trader row?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, cheer Trader Road? Yeah? Yeah, all right, Patrick,

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Speaker 3: what's your coffee of? Of What do you do for

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Speaker 3: your coffee? Everybody? Hang on, hang hang on.

872
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 9: Here's Patrick's answer.

873
00:41:59,600 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 7: Listen.

874
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: Double cappuccino, half calf, non fat milk with just enough

875
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: phone to be esthetically pleasing, but not so much that it.

876
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: Leaves in the spash. Is that right, Patrick?

877
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 7: No, my sister, but not me. What is that from?

878
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 7: I recognize that Frazer?

879
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

880
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah?

881
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

882
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 7: Was that his sidekick buddy?

883
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: His brother? Great?

884
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I forgot yea brother, his sidekick buddy.

885
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's the dog too in the dead but no,

886
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 12: so my my coffee is, uh, it depends. It's one

887
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 12: of two. It's I do like the warm and I

888
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 12: do like an iced coffee. Now both of them are

889
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 12: pretty similar. I tend to go on the lighter side,

890
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 12: Like I like my coffee really really blonde and pretty

891
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 12: much as everybody says.

892
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 7: Oh you hate coffee light roast, Yeah, and I like

893
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 7: it really sweet.

894
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 12: Just you know, I'll put in like an Italian cream,

895
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 12: a sweet cream, or like a peppermint mocha and just

896
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 12: absolutely make it absolutely sweet because I don't like it

897
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 12: a bitter.

898
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm just I will say this. My old radio producer

899
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Adam Klug, what up cougar? He had a great saying

900
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: about iced tea.

901
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: Which was plain, iced tea exists on this earth for

902
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: one reason. Do you guys know what That reason is?

903
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: To sweeten it, to be sweetened, right, And I.

904
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Believe that black coffee exists for the same reason, right

905
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: to be sweetened. Like anybody's like, I just like black coffee.

906
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: No sugar, no cream, no nothing.

907
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: Is that how you like it?

908
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 9: I love yeah, if you make it the right way,

909
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 9: as it has plenty of taste and complex flavors and

910
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 9: even some sweetness.

911
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Kind of enjoy the taste of asphalt. That's what it says.

912
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think you go a little bit overboard, Patrick,

913
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: But it's also because you're young, and the older you get,

914
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: the less you sweetened. Or maybe you just go like

915
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: screw it that maybe when you get to your seventies

916
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: and you just throw like my mom's like six things

917
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: of sugar in there, like whatever.

918
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Anyway, you're allowed to do what you're allowed to do. Sam,

919
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: what's your coffee of the month? What do you for coffee?

920
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 7: So I like a good medium roast. Lately I've been

921
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 7: buying this Levazza feto. Yeah, yeah, sure, h in it

922
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 7: I buy, you know, I buy. I have a coffee grinder,

923
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 7: but I buy a ground just to save a minute whatever.

924
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: And I do like the French press, and I like

925
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 7: drip coffee, but I have a little French press at home.

926
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 7: It makes a strong cup. You got like the sediment

927
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: in there, it's like kick, It adds a little extra punch.

928
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: It's a thick brew. It's a thick brew. And I

929
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 7: just put ether, you know, some two percent, some whole

930
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 7: milk or half and a half in there. No sugar.

931
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 7: I used to add sugar when I was younger. No

932
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: honey or anything, no mocha or you know, whatever, cinnamon,

933
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 7: whatever you might add in there.

934
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: We got no sugar, no.

935
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 7: Sugar, just just your standard cream in there. And I

936
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 7: want it to be just a little bit lighter brown

937
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 7: than what the coffee looks like originally. And I'm good

938
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 7: to go. And a lot of times I'll go over

939
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 7: to like Whole Foods, or I'll go over to you know,

940
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: seven eleven. Buy a cup of coffee. It's never quite

941
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 7: as the seven eleven stuff. It's never as strong as

942
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 7: like the Whole Foods. Are my own concoction at home,

943
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 7: but gets a job done. I'm not a fan of

944
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 7: like Folgers or Maxwell House. I hear those are grown

945
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 7: like a lower elevation or something. It's they're different, But

946
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 7: I like it right in the middle because a light roast,

947
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 7: I don't know if Patrick knows this, but a light

948
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 7: roast has more caffeine content in it, because that's less

949
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: the less that a bean, the less that, the lesser

950
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 7: than a bee. Am I even saying this right that

951
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 7: that a bean is roasted, it keeps a higher caffeine content.

952
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: So dark it's an amazing how much we all know

953
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: about coffee. And then I was like, hey, tell me

954
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: about your taxes and the tax breaks you get, like

955
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: I I got someone else.

956
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: I get somebody else to do that, like wait, wait,

957
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: that's your actual money.

958
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Whereas the coffee, We're like, did you know did you

959
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: that the lighter roast is actually more cabinet?

960
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

961
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, also, anything you hear from somebody

962
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: else about coffee, if you like it, everybody uses it. Right,

963
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: that's there are three hundred station that just became a

964
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: fact in everybody's mind that anytime you get questioned about

965
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: a lighter roast, like did you know light roast is

966
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: actually more caffeinated. I brought up this topic because it

967
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: is an amazing unifier. Right, it's an amazing unifier.

968
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 7: Talk about yourselves coffee, right, what is the topic?

969
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Your favorite brew is?

970
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Melinda Richmond and I had one today that was I

971
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: never had before and I've had I feel like I've

972
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: had every kind of coffee, Like I I believe I

973
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: know what the greatest Starbucks order is. I'll share it

974
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: with you in a second. But I had at a

975
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: place Ocloba City a cold brew. I think it was

976
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: cold brew spritz is what it was called. Anyway, Basically

977
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: it was like club soda, and then.

978
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 7: Cold brew happened at m interesting and.

979
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Then I put a little cream in there and a

980
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: little simple syrup, and I'm it was fantastic On a

981
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: hot summer morning.

982
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: I was like, this is amazing. Who thought of that?

983
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 7: Getting that pep in your step?

984
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 11: Yeah?

985
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 7: You heard of people putting coca cola in their coffee

986
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 7: or like you can actually buy I you think they

987
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 7: had a special coke put out like a coffee plus

988
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 7: coke combo that it kind of reminds me of that.

989
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 7: But carbonated seltzer water right called soda? Yeah, mixed with

990
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 7: cold brew? Yes, and then a couple of that's interesting.

991
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 7: It's a little cream, it's like a it's like a caffin,

992
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 7: it's like a coffee.

993
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Soada interesting. Yeah, it was really good. But I and

994
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: then my my like, huge is I have no use

995
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: your Now? I love my huge is? I have no use?

996
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: Are your usual? Yeah? Like I'm thinking about becoming a

997
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: self brew cold brew guy.

998
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 7: That's not rocket fuel, man, That stuff's rocket fuel.

999
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Let me get this straight. Do you do a French

1000
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: press or you just leave it like in a big

1001
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: jug with beans overnight?

1002
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: Is that what you do? Know?

1003
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 7: I do the French press, so I put the little

1004
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 7: ground to the bottom, hot one on top, mix it

1005
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: after a few minutes. Then no, but I'm mistaking a.

1006
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: Cold brew like a cold don't you leave it overnight

1007
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: and it soaks?

1008
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 7: Oh, I just buy the cold brew.

1009
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody, I know what you do to make the

1010
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: cold brew at home?

1011
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 12: You know?

1012
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 7: I don't. It's always like more concentrated and more potent.

1013
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: I don't know, like how you make cold brew. I

1014
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 7: really don't. I really don't know, but I always know

1015
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 7: that it's like it's just more potent and powerful. When

1016
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: I drink it, I'm like I'm gliding across the sky

1017
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 7: after I have a cold brew. I don't know, Isaac,

1018
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 7: do you know anything about coldbrew? Isaac?

1019
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 9: I'd buy it for my wife all the time, but

1020
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 9: that's the extent.

1021
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 7: Some people make it their own, but we usually just

1022
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 7: buy it like in a can or a bottle, like

1023
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 7: one single serving, ready to go, and uh yeah, yeah, I.

1024
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: Mean I definitely feel wasteful, There's no question. I feel

1025
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: wasteful as hell going to buy colbrew, like, dude, like

1026
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: this one, I could have made it home.

1027
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 9: Now what's your routine though, because you live out on

1028
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 9: a out on the lake, right, I mean, do you do.

1029
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: You what I do? Get? Ah, I have a I

1030
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: have one of those Ninja coffee makers. Oh nice, it's great.

1031
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: And so what I do is I make it's like

1032
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: a it's like a double pull of espresso, and then

1033
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I foam a little cream with just like a little

1034
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: bit of like flavored oat milk, just for a little

1035
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: bit of something. And then I have my first cup

1036
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: there with my dogs, and then it begins a series

1037
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: of different coffees throughout the day.

1038
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: I love coffee.

1039
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 7: How many would you say? Three eight eight ounce servings?

1040
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 7: You three a day?

1041
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 12: Oh?

1042
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: Eight ounce serving?

1043
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 7: Well, like just your normal whatever, a six ounce serving

1044
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 7: eight ounce serving coffee eight.

1045
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: Ounce to start the day.

1046
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: And then usually I'll have or somebody will buy me

1047
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: or we'll go get a cole Brew at some point

1048
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: in time, and then usually come like mid radio show,

1049
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: there'll be another one. If I haven't worked my way

1050
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: to Arnold Palmer's. Like I literally go coffee until like

1051
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a certain point and then I.

1052
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: Go Arnold Palmer's.

1053
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1054
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 9: My theory is that coffee is the best legal performance

1055
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 9: enhancing substance there is anywhere, because if I came in

1056
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 9: here without having had my coffee, I would sounding my gosh,

1057
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 9: because that's my baseline state. When you guys hear me,

1058
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 9: it's always caffeine fueled. And I think for what we do,

1059
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 9: for what a lot of people do, maybe it's a

1060
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 9: placebo effect for me, but I think it just makes

1061
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 9: you generally sharper and more energetic.

1062
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: All right, share us with us, your your coffee routine.

1063
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: And if you're like a I don't like coffee, okay,

1064
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: you're that guy. That's fine, but you don't have to

1065
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: brag about being I got something specially about being the guy. Well,

1066
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I say six dollars a day because I don't like Okay,

1067
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to spend six dollars that you can

1068
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: brew it at home as Ilo does. I'm just surprised

1069
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: that Isaac doesn't brew his on his neighbor's machine with

1070
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: his neighbors beings.

1071
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 7: I didn't say that, I didn't do that. So are

1072
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 7: we all properly for clemps?

1073
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 9: Now?

1074
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: Yes we are.

1075
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: That's midway the midway coming to next to the Doug

1076
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: Gottleeb Show, Will Alabama be back, and what about the

1077
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: pressure on Texas? Plus Mark Medina ways in on the

1078
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: latest with the Lakers. Wait, do you hear what Marcus

1079
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: Smart said was the tipping point why he wanted to

1080
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: become a lake. That's text the Doug Gottlieb Show. But first, ooh,

1081
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: my sleep number setting is forty five, So what's that mean? Okay,

1082
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: zero is the softest think of. I don't know that

1083
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: kid in middle school's waterbed, right, remember that? Hey, and

1084
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: one hundred is the firmest. I thought I was a

1085
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: firm guy went into a Sleep number store, laid on

1086
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: all the mattresses and they showed me just the right

1087
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: mattress based upon pressure points in my back.

1088
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