Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy two,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Daily's Like Guys stay production of
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into america shared consciousness. It's Monday, January
Speaker 1: twenty three. Oh whoa good day. Yeah, good good days
Speaker 1: to you as well. Thank you so much. I will
Speaker 1: take these measurable dates and eat them happily. But today's
Speaker 1: date is also National Handwriting Day and National Pie Day,
Speaker 1: like p I E. Eating. We know pie days. You're
Speaker 1: mathematics that the best of March fourteen, but we're talking
Speaker 1: about p I E Pie today. They should have combined those.
Speaker 1: Just just a note to the big too big pie
Speaker 1: two big p I E. You should combine it with
Speaker 1: the other one. That's like when I feel like all
Speaker 1: the like engineer like math nerds I knew were like
Speaker 1: they had pie part Like it's like over for pie
Speaker 1: Jay like made a selection of pies. If they kind
Speaker 1: of go ahead, and that is how they talk to you.
Speaker 1: Hand right, Jack, do I hand right? You're doing some handwriting.
Speaker 1: I gotta handwriting. I've got to I've got some of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I do a lot of handwriting. Actually, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: your handwriting just to get the mind working in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh ship, Now, I've been writing thank you cards,
Speaker 1: you know, for people getting us baby stuff. So I've
Speaker 1: been doing like so much handwriting that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I missed this. I feel like I'm back in school
Speaker 1: having to do an essay in handwriting. I must report
Speaker 1: to ze Gang as a recipient of one of said
Speaker 1: thank You know, Miles has beautiful handwriting. Yeah, baby pool
Speaker 1: looking handwriting. It's all block letters. The best imagine imagine
Speaker 1: what you think Miles is handwritings like it's it's the
Speaker 1: best interpretation. It's not like frilly or anything. It's just
Speaker 1: like when when the man puts the pen somewhere he
Speaker 1: meant to yeah you can, I think any like writing
Speaker 1: and like analysts would be like you are putting a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on that pen, like I'm digging deep
Speaker 1: with that thing. But anyway, yeah, yeah, I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of tension there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that
Speaker 1: was the other thing we remarked on good handwriting, and
Speaker 1: oh boy, there's a lot going on, sir. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien, a k
Speaker 1: protutors O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: by my co host Mr Miles Ground. My goodness, yes
Speaker 1: it's me because my artwork is in Larna, Sophia and
Speaker 1: the El Prado call me Salvador Daddy eventually, not quite yet,
Speaker 1: but yes, that will probably be a new nickname soon.
Speaker 1: Shout out to a Christie. I'm Acucci man for that
Speaker 1: wonderful He mustn't know when I was in Afpania over
Speaker 1: the summer, which I did take in some wonderful works
Speaker 1: by h and Dolly of course, and of course yeah
Speaker 1: because as well, Miles Enough beating around, we were thrilled
Speaker 1: to be doing in our third seat by a hilarious
Speaker 1: enough with the ship out of you being an impending
Speaker 1: father or whatever. You've seen some art. We gotta we
Speaker 1: got a heater today. Yeah, hilarious stand up comedian, common writer, actor,
Speaker 1: fashion icon, whose shirts are available at Guarantee Shirts. One
Speaker 1: of our all time favorite TTZ guests. One of y'all's
Speaker 1: favorite TTZ guests, The Brilliant, the Raw, the Major Kitlynn.
Speaker 1: This is me hugging the Zy Gang. I hope you
Speaker 1: can that everybody just got it. Consensual hug only those
Speaker 1: who want one. If you're not into that door being
Speaker 1: most of us, you're fine. Most of you are problem.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a huggy crowd. I knew, Miles
Speaker 1: that you had excellent handwriting. I knew it, I felt
Speaker 1: it in my bumpes that your handwriting was cultivated and exquisite.
Speaker 1: Thank you, that was correct. It's hi. What wonderful praises
Speaker 1: a pleasure as all ways to join you in your
Speaker 1: lovely than it's wonderful handwriting looking like fast? It's hurry.
Speaker 1: My handwriting looks like I am thinking about the next
Speaker 1: sentence already and would like to get it on the page.
Speaker 1: Do you have like do you have like hybrid cursive
Speaker 1: printing handwriting? Because you know how people like when I
Speaker 1: hear people who write fast. I've always envisioned like that
Speaker 1: hybrid cursive while also printing. Is that you ye? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little a lot of letters I've just trained
Speaker 1: to run together in something like normal. They're not the
Speaker 1: shape of a curve of letter. But I'm not looking pencil.
Speaker 1: Who's got the time? Right? Right? I'm busy. I will
Speaker 1: show you a to do list that has my handwriting
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I was just taking notes about what
Speaker 1: a guest needs to know on this stained book, and
Speaker 1: I feel like even backwards, you know that that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it would look like. Yeah, this is a to
Speaker 1: do list that I discovered while cleaning on a closet
Speaker 1: from over I think probably two years ago. I've accomplished
Speaker 1: half of the things on this put You didn't specify
Speaker 1: what multiple mountains, but one of the one of the
Speaker 1: items on the to do list is just Havana syndrome.
Speaker 1: Get to the bottom of just how hi on the
Speaker 1: list is that? Can? I ask, how how long have
Speaker 1: you been writing a list before you were like here, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight nine item syndrome? Just enough, said future self, you
Speaker 1: know what this means, ship, It's like shitty memento. It's
Speaker 1: like what havana syndrome? Figure it out? Figure it out,
Speaker 1: solve the jfk assassination, Havana syndrome. Whats gonna climate change area.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite jokes in the world, Sean Kane
Speaker 1: wrote himself so he would remember it because he knew
Speaker 1: he was not in a state to remember it when
Speaker 1: it occurred to him. At the time, and it is
Speaker 1: a list of soy cheese names that make me laugh
Speaker 1: like like a child, like I hear that, I've heard that,
Speaker 1: I request that joke anytime I can make Shaan Kine
Speaker 1: do it for me. And when next time you talked
Speaker 1: to comedian Shan Kine or listened to him, I highly
Speaker 1: shout out so soy cheeses. I will just cite my favorite.
Speaker 1: Monterey John is the best thing I ever heard, John.
Speaker 1: But that was in a note he left himself and
Speaker 1: discovered the meeting of which I'm so thankful he retained.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine just opening your phone to see the
Speaker 1: phrase Monterey John and having no no frame of reference?
Speaker 1: What were you thinking? Why has this been written? What
Speaker 1: past self decided that that was a necessary note? I
Speaker 1: remain never thankful that Sean held on to just enough
Speaker 1: shreds of that memory. But they're one of my favorite
Speaker 1: pieces of stand up material of all time. It also
Speaker 1: relies on our knowledge that Jack is a nickname for John,
Speaker 1: which the majority of the United States does not have.
Speaker 1: I will I will have you know as somebody who
Speaker 1: is a born John who goes by Jack. Most people,
Speaker 1: why the hell do you do that? That's strange and
Speaker 1: has for in derivative. I can go so many ways.
Speaker 1: I think Katie and whatever I ca Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: can't stop starting with cats. But all the kate ones
Speaker 1: are allowed to Yeah somebow. I feel like Courtney sneaks in.
Speaker 1: I could just do it if I want it? Why not?
Speaker 1: That's right now? And Miles, you just have a cool name.
Speaker 1: So you're you're like, yeah, I'm good. I told I
Speaker 1: think I've said it before. I always wanted to be
Speaker 1: DJ in the nineties. Oh god, yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: why don't I d J man? That felt like the
Speaker 1: sikest name I remember. I was like, Yo, this name
Speaker 1: is bullshit. Why can't have Yeah, there's other kids this
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this one kid, DJ was like the coolest
Speaker 1: kid like in my great like at the time they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's surfing and ship like he's like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: like a good surfer when we were like ten, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he was killing it. Now
Speaker 1: he's like a like a storied lifeguard in Oahu. Like
Speaker 1: he he never strayed from his like beach path as
Speaker 1: a human being. Now, this is what I'm good at.
Speaker 1: A DJ, always a DJ that's you have to swing
Speaker 1: in too hard, came back down from your choices as
Speaker 1: a DJ exactly in a way. I'm glad I did not.
Speaker 1: I did not pursue that name switch and I stayed
Speaker 1: with Miles and that led me towards them. That kept
Speaker 1: me on my musical path. So yeah, yeah, very well,
Speaker 1: DJ could have kept you on a very different music
Speaker 1: would have been two on the nose. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, and here's DJ DJ, Like, no, come on,
Speaker 1: I personally love it, but that's not a great think.
Speaker 1: Troll DJ names now are like the best, Like there's
Speaker 1: a guy named Trillbo Swagons who I've seen on bills
Speaker 1: and like l a DJ Yambai Yobi is another one
Speaker 1: I love. Like those are just funny, like I would
Speaker 1: lean into that. But yeah, as a kid, like I
Speaker 1: remember I was DJ under the name Prime with a
Speaker 1: one with a one for the eye. Okay on this side, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a time to be alive, truly, the early nineties.
Speaker 1: I have a long thing I want to talk about
Speaker 1: that we don't have time for, about the name Michael
Speaker 1: in the late eighties early nineties and why it was
Speaker 1: having such a run. I don't have any answer when
Speaker 1: I was in college, we had to have multiple mics.
Speaker 1: There was Marcus and Mike's second floor Mike. There was
Speaker 1: tall Mike, there was short mic. We had to delineate
Speaker 1: the mics saying got a prefix handle. And also the
Speaker 1: most famous humans in America were all named Mike. And
Speaker 1: then the ninja turtles came along, and the coolest ninja
Speaker 1: turtle was Michael Angelo. It's what why? And then since then, no, like,
Speaker 1: not a lot of cool Mike's got Mike Pence. This
Speaker 1: is a stand up bit I'm working out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go off kick all right? About that is your guaranteed
Speaker 1: to have a mic and every audience, Yeah, ready, have
Speaker 1: put plenty in your pocket for that. You get on stage. Hey,
Speaker 1: so where's Mike Cat. Your name's Mike, raise your hair
Speaker 1: right now? Alright, Mike the fun Daddy. Alright, Kayla, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, one can tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about today. Google aid off
Speaker 1: twelve thousand people. Their stock price went up, of course,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about that and how the real
Speaker 1: theory on why corporations, why all these tech corporations are
Speaker 1: firing everyone just like firing cutting so many jobs is
Speaker 1: because they like the other one did it, and there like,
Speaker 1: well if they did it, we we should do it.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how billionaires
Speaker 1: are coping with people telling the truth about them, namely
Speaker 1: suing them. We'll talk about state houses coming up with
Speaker 1: just the dumbest, most fucked up ways to oppress non
Speaker 1: heterosexual people, all that plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Okay, two part answer one very quick
Speaker 1: and brutally honest. Cabinet suspension rails. Guests who's in the
Speaker 1: middle of putting its new kitchen cabinets are planning the
Speaker 1: process of doing so. So yeah, I can't tell you
Speaker 1: that the search results are exciting, but there are a
Speaker 1: lot of them. They're quite informative. So if you if
Speaker 1: you're with me in the journey, I chose the suspension
Speaker 1: rail system, you echo into just the chamber nothing. And
Speaker 1: when you're doing when you're googling that, are you finding
Speaker 1: like YouTube video that shows you how to do it
Speaker 1: that you're like speed scrubbing through what's what's your person
Speaker 1: I was looking specifically is because I was trying to
Speaker 1: be cheap and buy cabinets that didn't include a suspension
Speaker 1: rail system. So that I did the thing where I
Speaker 1: was like, well can I buy something to add to
Speaker 1: that cabinet? And I was like, now it's an expensive cabinet,
Speaker 1: one that has a suspension rail. See how you did
Speaker 1: the thing? So yeah, that was the path that I've
Speaker 1: been chasing down. The fun one though, is that for
Speaker 1: Sunday Sundance Film Festival is happening now big time in
Speaker 1: my house, as half the house works for the festinates
Speaker 1: there in Park City now and quite often the category
Speaker 1: you know online there's a a big breakdown of like
Speaker 1: what's playing and what's going on, And many years the
Speaker 1: International Shorts tab is not the most clicked upon tab.
Speaker 1: There are certainly competitions or movies that get more interest
Speaker 1: than that particular slice of the festival. But this year,
Speaker 1: because of alphabetical coincidence, I think it just worked out right. Truly,
Speaker 1: it was just supposed to be this way. It's not
Speaker 1: that they picked this person out, although who knows. But
Speaker 1: right now for the International Shorts at Sundance, the picture
Speaker 1: promoting it is of Jennifer Connolly, and I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you it's peak, and it's peak in stats, it's it's
Speaker 1: crushing stats. Folks are smashing to see what's going on
Speaker 1: with international shorts at Sundance, and I give credit to
Speaker 1: the face of Jennifer Connelly, which will move mice all
Speaker 1: over the world. As it turns out, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: know what she's up to. So congrats to those at Sundance.
Speaker 1: I was in love with her. Yeah, I mean rockets here.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that international shorts is good getting some shine.
Speaker 1: Credit credit be to Jennifer Connelly or not, all high
Speaker 1: quality films that deserve of you. And if it's that
Speaker 1: face that gets in there, well done. Oh that's fine.
Speaker 1: So somebody, are you are involved in sundancewer your partners,
Speaker 1: the sweet Y the house? Yeah, okay, got it. For
Speaker 1: a few years, I've been with the festival and in
Speaker 1: various capacities, so always fun to watch it growing and
Speaker 1: it happened and and pick up cool stuff and that's
Speaker 1: that's cool. Any any news on what's coming other than
Speaker 1: Jennifer Connolly's face For all of us foreign short film fans,
Speaker 1: um I wish that I had clicked beyond it. I,
Speaker 1: like the rest of the general public, was treats by
Speaker 1: Jennifer Connelly and literally googled Sun Dance International Shorts Jennifer Connolly.
Speaker 1: So if you've done the same, welcome to that elite club. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you hear a lot about programming, which means I
Speaker 1: can't remember what's actually happening and what is just discussed.
Speaker 1: But it is an honor to just be discussed. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? Oh shit? Wait, no,
Speaker 1: there was one and they were both food related? Can
Speaker 1: I do? Can I do underrated? First? Yes, we allow it.
Speaker 1: I remember it. I'm sorry I had to wait for
Speaker 1: a ruling from our judge, but yes, yes, I appreciate
Speaker 1: this grace. I wrote down the word underrat overrated instead
Speaker 1: of writing down the thing that I think is a
Speaker 1: So when I tell you that my handwriting is in
Speaker 1: a hurry, that maybe that what's what's you know, overrated
Speaker 1: is rushing? See how we rescue this issuation? Is not
Speaker 1: taking your time? It seems like I was getting there
Speaker 1: faster to write down my underrated. But you know what
Speaker 1: I did then was just wrote down the word underrated.
Speaker 1: The word also underrated, which I'm just very lucky that
Speaker 1: I happen to remember, because I decided on my underrated
Speaker 1: very quickly, and a shepherd a few through a few
Speaker 1: overrated now which none, none of which I can remember.
Speaker 1: So don't rush. Rushing is deeply overrated. What is underrated? Celery?
Speaker 1: Celery salary? Baby, tell me more? I gotta agree. Are
Speaker 1: you saying of a big second on this? Are we
Speaker 1: saying beyond our understandings as just like an easy dipping
Speaker 1: vegetable and something for the kids, and then obviously vital
Speaker 1: to like you know you're Mira Poi or like other
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of foundational to your cooking. Tell
Speaker 1: me we're in soup season. Yeah, hit it here in
Speaker 1: this atmosphere if your fridge is not stocked with some
Speaker 1: salary or missing out on a key component of making
Speaker 1: soup season a huge success. Plus, I didn't know they
Speaker 1: saying this is mainly garnered from an episode of America's
Speaker 1: Test Kitchens. To go back and look up what I
Speaker 1: had had to say about celery, But for a long
Speaker 1: time it was kind of the only green thing going
Speaker 1: in the winter. Celery was like a big deal on
Speaker 1: the holiday table because everything else was like stuffing turkey brown,
Speaker 1: you know, delicious brown served this like there were special
Speaker 1: dishes to hold sery thing because sellers. Then a lot
Speaker 1: of the holiday dishes like just kind of thrown in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stuffing chunks of celery in there. You look at
Speaker 1: an old Titanic menu or something and it'll be like
Speaker 1: celery served seven ways been like creamed. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a champion vegetable. I think it's unsung now. I
Speaker 1: heard to mention as a kid snack, and it is
Speaker 1: a delicious kids snack. But grounds don't sleep. The celery
Speaker 1: is delicious, that will serve you well. I love I
Speaker 1: love a celery. Yeah. I rely on ants on a
Speaker 1: log more than I should as a parent, you know,
Speaker 1: to get my kids to eat some calories when they're
Speaker 1: like not wanting to eat whatever thing I've made badly
Speaker 1: for them. But we never as adults find ourselves in
Speaker 1: that situation, right, Never have we ever gone through a
Speaker 1: day lacking calories or energy because we didn't do something
Speaker 1: simple like wolf down some celery with peanut butter smudged
Speaker 1: on it. Well, so I I do that now. I
Speaker 1: also make myself ants on a log and My only
Speaker 1: complaint with ants on a log is it takes an
Speaker 1: entire like bushel of celery for me to feel satisfied.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, I did say it's the only
Speaker 1: thing you should Yeah. I said it's underrated, not that
Speaker 1: it should be your chance, Like isn't it's a big assist.
Speaker 1: They're like some sir, I don't know if it's true,
Speaker 1: but people like it's the one food that you eat
Speaker 1: that's like a net negative. Calorically, I feel like iceberg
Speaker 1: lettuce is also on this list of things. In the nineties,
Speaker 1: they told me to eating seventeen magazine when they're like, Hi,
Speaker 1: we're not going to promote eating disorders in the traditional way.
Speaker 1: We'll just seed the seed the ground with these subtle
Speaker 1: things like hey, what about this, you know what if? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, celery, I mean yeah to your point, Like
Speaker 1: I remember when I would eat it, like I would
Speaker 1: eat my mom would make French onion dip sometimes and
Speaker 1: I would eat it with celery, and she used to
Speaker 1: be like, stop eating half the goddamn tub with every
Speaker 1: bite of sunn Like it's the only way I could
Speaker 1: feel could feel filling. Like I was using it as
Speaker 1: like a spoon. Basically, I gotta make up for these
Speaker 1: net negative calories from celery by offsetting them with net
Speaker 1: positive from the French onion dim building my case that
Speaker 1: it is underrated. What an excellent conveyance. And that's it,
Speaker 1: adds Chris. Yeah, it has flavor, but it's like chill.
Speaker 1: It's not loud. Nature's toastito scoops. Oh see Nature's FreeDOS
Speaker 1: is FreeDOS. Fritos have three ingredients. Don't forget the friedo
Speaker 1: is a perfect food. I don't have to tell you
Speaker 1: that's underrated. Freedom should already be corn, corn, oreal, salt, salt.
Speaker 1: It's a it's an Yeah, that's impressive. And two of
Speaker 1: them are corn based. Yeah, one is salt. It's really good.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, what is what something you think is overrated? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: rushing before rushing, it's very too fast to remember what
Speaker 1: you thought about before the writing down the word overrated
Speaker 1: instead of writing down the thing. Yes, yes, you thought
Speaker 1: was overrated. Take your time, Take time with well executed mug.
Speaker 1: Lift gets you out of it. Oh that mugg is
Speaker 1: actually also good mug to lift into frame because that's
Speaker 1: a beautiful mug. Oh thank you. Yeah, is that a
Speaker 1: something you're making. Here's I live in a place now,
Speaker 1: so when I have to get things, I get the
Speaker 1: things that I like, think I've lived for a long time,
Speaker 1: like well, this could be possibly disposed over the year
Speaker 1: entirely by accident as I relocate to a new zip
Speaker 1: code for But now I'm a little bit more deliberate
Speaker 1: in my choices. Hence cabinet suspension rails. Right exactly? You
Speaker 1: got a yetty? Is that you're sipping out it right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's a nice smug as well. Thank you, Lifetime for life.
Speaker 1: Never gonna lose it. I got the I got the
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain tub tumbler. I bought it at CVS because
Speaker 1: it could fit thirty two ounces and I was going
Speaker 1: to a hotel pool party where I had to sneak
Speaker 1: in alcohol. You just walked up sipping on a giant tumbler. Question,
Speaker 1: I said it was water. Oh yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because I guess like that that is a thing.
Speaker 1: That thing. Yeah, because especially look when you say like
Speaker 1: a hotel and then they're like yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: have like a pool side bar and like the drinks
Speaker 1: or seven thousand dollars the fucker, get your Rocky Mountain
Speaker 1: tumbler on and then go to the room as you
Speaker 1: need to. You know, I don't want to put my
Speaker 1: parents on blast, but when you go on a cruise,
Speaker 1: booze can be very expensive, so con checking luggage. So
Speaker 1: they had essentially they just wore seven days worth of
Speaker 1: clothes and check the luggage full of bits. It's impressive.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take your quick break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and there's a there's a hot new
Speaker 1: trend going around the tech industry, and that's firing thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands of your employees. Google announced that they're laying
Speaker 1: off twelve thousand people, which is about six percent of
Speaker 1: their global workforce. And first of all, the market was
Speaker 1: immediately like thumbs up, no notes, great job, and their
Speaker 1: stock price went up because that is the perverse system
Speaker 1: of incentives that we live within, and that of course
Speaker 1: makes the people making the decision to fire people instantly
Speaker 1: way richer when the stock price goes up, because that's
Speaker 1: where most of their net worth is tied up for
Speaker 1: a lot of it at least. But this is just
Speaker 1: the latest round of layouts for tech workers. The other day,
Speaker 1: Microsoft announced they were cutting ten thousand jobs. Shortly before that,
Speaker 1: Amazon announced massive layoffs, and Google claims that their explanation
Speaker 1: is how we just hired a bunch of people during
Speaker 1: the pandemic and now we're in a different economic reality, which, oh,
Speaker 1: a better one. No, that's that's the thing. Like, No,
Speaker 1: this sort of bait and switch the corporate entities do
Speaker 1: where they're always talking about like the financial outlook is bad,
Speaker 1: but then they never really like follow through when it's
Speaker 1: good on doing anything for anyone. But it's always just
Speaker 1: them announcing that the financial outlook is bad and then
Speaker 1: laying off people. Because remember, like during COVID, everybody was
Speaker 1: like it's an economic apocalypse. And now they're like looking
Speaker 1: back at that as like the good old days, because
Speaker 1: but because I've got paid for because buddy just bled out,
Speaker 1: you know, tracking where that went will be an amusing
Speaker 1: job for some finance students in the future, but it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet that was the wild old days. You could
Speaker 1: send in a piece of paper and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden a bunch of money showed up. But then you
Speaker 1: sent it another one, and I guess it was fun,
Speaker 1: like there was on a corporate level, it seemed like
Speaker 1: there was a giddiness about what was possible, Like we
Speaker 1: can just fire everybody. We don't have to have offices anymore.
Speaker 1: Stock is stable, but nothing else in the economy is like,
Speaker 1: what is happening unreplicatable. I don't know that it was.
Speaker 1: Corporate entities are like alive, they live forever, but they can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the virus affected them. Like the
Speaker 1: human people. They were like they've weakened. It's time for
Speaker 1: us to get stronger. And yeah, oh no, Terminator was
Speaker 1: worried about the wrong AI. It's corporations that are becoming
Speaker 1: for sure. I've been saying that like capitalism. Capitalism and
Speaker 1: corporations are the singularity, like they're the unkillable thing that
Speaker 1: is like ingesting all of the minds and intelligence and
Speaker 1: just using that to kill any challenger. But yeah, massive
Speaker 1: corporations yearning for the good old days of the COVID outbreak,
Speaker 1: when all we heard about during the COVID outbreak was
Speaker 1: how the economy was is kind of a weird look.
Speaker 1: And people who speak the language of these people say
Speaker 1: it's like still a bad move, Like it doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to fire this many people because you like a
Speaker 1: lot oft times you're firing people who you just spent
Speaker 1: a bunch of money to like recruit and high. They say,
Speaker 1: it's like buying high and selling low on your labor
Speaker 1: because you like really like spend a lot to like
Speaker 1: recruit people, bring them in and then have collective packages
Speaker 1: so even get them to sign and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then because of like a temporary economic condition, you
Speaker 1: fire them. And then when things pick up again in
Speaker 1: twelve months, you're going to be spending a lot of
Speaker 1: money like trying to get that same quality or even
Speaker 1: sometimes those same employees. Back on your insanity of the
Speaker 1: amount of money companies will spend to pay humans less money,
Speaker 1: it's out of control, it's in them. I mean the
Speaker 1: same arguments getting like housing is the same thing. The
Speaker 1: amount of money we spend to keep people homeless is
Speaker 1: wild wild. It would be so much cheaper by every
Speaker 1: measure to just put people in side, in like safe
Speaker 1: nice places. What are you trying to say that it
Speaker 1: costs three times more in Los Angeles to deal with
Speaker 1: an unhoused person than if we spent the money to
Speaker 1: find a way to get them in permanent housing, which
Speaker 1: is one, and then to jail them for being unhoused.
Speaker 1: On top of that, when we're just putting them inside
Speaker 1: for the profit of someone. Yeah, it is a I
Speaker 1: mean putting them inside. It's a statement I probably could
Speaker 1: have shaped more gracefully as these are people. But it
Speaker 1: is a ton for effect. I share you. It's a yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those well silly conundrant about capitalism that like
Speaker 1: you need society. It's why I connect economic systems don't
Speaker 1: work in a vacuum because they're endless, they have no boundaries.
Speaker 1: They keep expanding. But we live on like a planet.
Speaker 1: You might know. I do astronomy towards and night. Maybe
Speaker 1: we've talked about that. I live in Joshua Between now
Speaker 1: I go out into the park with telescopes, and I
Speaker 1: talked about space. So I think about this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff all the time. Like it's one planet. It is
Speaker 1: so very small. We have a boundaried amount of resources
Speaker 1: as much as the land musk. I want to grab
Speaker 1: an asteroid full of gold, It is not a likely
Speaker 1: outcome for us and permanent resource development. It's very cool.
Speaker 1: We can make oxygen on other planetary environments, but it's
Speaker 1: not like a sustainable bottle for life. So the expansion
Speaker 1: of capitalism being limitless is one of those things that's
Speaker 1: very foolish, and then you need a society decide, like
Speaker 1: when profit doesn't win, like like with housing, like with
Speaker 1: yeah it's a it's yeah people, just like on the
Speaker 1: broad scale thing, like there's that statement by William Shatner
Speaker 1: where he like went to space and was like and
Speaker 1: I looked back and I realized, like space is bad
Speaker 1: out there, there's nothing else for us, and like the
Speaker 1: Earth is this amazing, beautiful thing, which I I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's a really good point that he just made, and
Speaker 1: like I I wish I don't know he said. He
Speaker 1: basically said, you don't you don't want to be out here?
Speaker 1: Right here is different. Appreciate what you got right thread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't start thinking about out here, because this is incredible.
Speaker 1: It's inhospitable to every way are we have adapted as biology.
Speaker 1: Space isn't bad. We are just programmed to live in
Speaker 1: a certain type of environment and space is different from
Speaker 1: that environment. We don't think about the fact that the
Speaker 1: atmosphere is like gas. We live in stew a rich
Speaker 1: gassy goodness, and space just isn't like that. Our bodies
Speaker 1: are designed for a certain amount of gravity. Space just
Speaker 1: has like different, it's it's just different. But we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do great there. So yeah, the inherent constraints are
Speaker 1: one thing. But then this like spinning off of costs
Speaker 1: is just madness, and it happens within capitalist environments themselves,
Speaker 1: where like they get fixated on a number, the pennywise
Speaker 1: plan on foolish game, where like, labor costs money, so
Speaker 1: paying less in labor means we make more money. But
Speaker 1: that is a ridiculous, it's so provably false, and it
Speaker 1: repeats itself so often that you think will have learned
Speaker 1: the lesson from history, because it's like the eternal history
Speaker 1: of humans working for other humans has this balance of
Speaker 1: like a seesaw tipping back and forth, where labor is
Speaker 1: a press, labor fights back. Labor is the press. Labor
Speaker 1: fights back. That wheel has been turning. It's turning right now.
Speaker 1: But and like tech is an important place because tech
Speaker 1: is how we're talking to each other right now. It's
Speaker 1: how people communicate among the rest of the trade link
Speaker 1: that's important. Labor, those are important people with important skills
Speaker 1: that need to be helping us thrive. Go backwards, thinking
Speaker 1: that we can pay people less to make more. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work. It doesn't work. But on the shareholder call,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, well, what's the fucking deal? Because
Speaker 1: these other companies are getting are acting people. Why aren't
Speaker 1: you guys? Hire them? Hire them all, hire them, now,
Speaker 1: hire them and pay them so they don't leave. Hire
Speaker 1: yourself thirty six thousand incredible employees and make your company
Speaker 1: incredible which money, and watch your stock price go down
Speaker 1: a little bit and realize, like, my day to day
Speaker 1: stock price is not like a way to run the
Speaker 1: fucking company like that or not. If your plan is
Speaker 1: to eat the company alive and leave, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But what if your stock goes on because that company
Speaker 1: is a it's going to live on too. But if
Speaker 1: you kept making money past the three years that you
Speaker 1: pull the plug on it, drain it and kill it,
Speaker 1: what if it actually over thirty years would give you
Speaker 1: so much more money that it's such a death. I'll
Speaker 1: take the money up front right now. I'm right now,
Speaker 1: I'll take the money right now. I don't care about
Speaker 1: thirty years. I care about right now, that all the
Speaker 1: way for just a little more, right, that's right. And
Speaker 1: so that there is a Stanford business professor who said
Speaker 1: back in December that the real reason behind all these
Speaker 1: tech layoffs that you know, that was before a lot
Speaker 1: of the ones we're talking about, but they had started,
Speaker 1: and he was like, watch this. They they're all going
Speaker 1: to do this because everyone else is doing it. And
Speaker 1: that is how CEO brains work. That's how like the
Speaker 1: powers that be. I guess it's it's a bad decision.
Speaker 1: They're going to like, you know, severance packages cost the money,
Speaker 1: their unemployment insurance rates increase, productivity drops due to low
Speaker 1: workplace morale. They're going to when the economy picks back up,
Speaker 1: like go spend a bunch trying to rehire these same employees.
Speaker 1: But tech companies are responding to the market only basically,
Speaker 1: and they're just it's so basic and just like they
Speaker 1: engage in imitative behavior because it's like a big fucking
Speaker 1: social circle where like social contagions like you, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want people to be like why
Speaker 1: didn't you do that? He did that so that I
Speaker 1: have to do it to like hedge my bets. Basically,
Speaker 1: that's how you get everyone in fleece vests. That's how
Speaker 1: you get the entire City of San Francisco in the
Speaker 1: s navy blue fleece with the blue color shirt underneath,
Speaker 1: leather boat shoes, leatherboatoes. But I mean it's will because again,
Speaker 1: like to your point, right, like when Lula took office
Speaker 1: in Brazil when he was like, yeah, man, we're gonna
Speaker 1: tackle inequality and people starving and the markets fucking sake,
Speaker 1: because he said because he articulates that, which again, everything
Speaker 1: is just about the whole thing, which is ignore your
Speaker 1: human impulse to have empathy and to take care of
Speaker 1: a problem, because at the end of the day, we're
Speaker 1: all just becoming subservient to again the shareholder value, the
Speaker 1: stock price. And again it's like this, this only leads
Speaker 1: to the fucking just you know, consumption of every resource
Speaker 1: that we have and then like emptying out our pockets
Speaker 1: and me like is the jet here yet? Is the
Speaker 1: rocket here yet? And it won't be. Yeah, That's why
Speaker 1: I brought up the shatter thing is because like the
Speaker 1: long game is like that. I feel like that statement
Speaker 1: was profound and it also made me realize like they
Speaker 1: were like he's suffering from a thing. Lots of astronauts
Speaker 1: like come back from space with where they're just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so bad up there. You guys,
Speaker 1: we need to like fix all the problems on Earth.
Speaker 1: We have it completely backwards. But you never hear about
Speaker 1: that ship because again, the whole thing is this vast,
Speaker 1: like hive intelligence of capitalism that is only telling you
Speaker 1: the thing that is going to accelerate consumption and like
Speaker 1: create this overall narrative where we have to get off
Speaker 1: the planet and create more more worlds to consume. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's it's like being inconvenience that like your roof has
Speaker 1: like a leak in it, and you start building another
Speaker 1: house and you're like, wait, what do you doing. You're like, well,
Speaker 1: my my other house has a leak in the roof,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to fix this imthing that building
Speaker 1: that second house is so good for the economy. You
Speaker 1: don't understand. Yeah, I think the amount of people you're
Speaker 1: gonna employ by building another house than you But again
Speaker 1: it's the why not why tackle the issue, Like why
Speaker 1: not tackle the issue of the faulty roof, which is doable,
Speaker 1: rather than being like, no, fuck it, We're going all
Speaker 1: in on getting the funk out of this house and
Speaker 1: building another one next door, Like yeah, like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, it's like, just just take the fucking time
Speaker 1: to fix that. It's it's manageable, but it just takes
Speaker 1: a different way of thinking around the like well if
Speaker 1: I do that, then there's like I just solve it
Speaker 1: right there and then there's not some like continuous problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hit something. It is a poison because like wanting
Speaker 1: the idea that humans want to explore off the planet
Speaker 1: we live on. It's like as old as people like
Speaker 1: don't stop looking at it has been put like that
Speaker 1: urge is pure. It is impure to think that we
Speaker 1: want to go there to take diamonds to bring back
Speaker 1: to here, Like that is insane. That's so that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: But the idea that we are explorers is not is
Speaker 1: not crazy. And and listen to the people who use
Speaker 1: this marvel of like space travel to go up there
Speaker 1: get a perspective that only like a handful of humans
Speaker 1: ever get and be like, yo, you are we are
Speaker 1: all fucking up and like you can you can see
Speaker 1: it from up there, like somehow your spirit can like
Speaker 1: see it and it's really bad. And and they pay
Speaker 1: their bodies are their strange. It's a long term what
Speaker 1: astronauts do has a long term costs that we're getting
Speaker 1: better at understanding. But like it's not just bad for us.
Speaker 1: We're not designed all the every condition is not what
Speaker 1: we're designed for. Props are getting good. Way to go, perseverance,
Speaker 1: keep looking for stuff in those rocks. Yeah, exactly, show
Speaker 1: us life on Mars. I just want to see what happens.
Speaker 1: I just want to see what happens if we could
Speaker 1: find evidence of bacterial life, but I just want to
Speaker 1: see what we do. We'll bring it back at them
Speaker 1: so excited. We'll bring it back and it'll wipe us
Speaker 1: out as it was scripted. Are hubriskly came too much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: bring it home, Bring it home, Bring it home. All
Speaker 1: the ecosystems are devastated, and you're like, a fuck, I
Speaker 1: knew it. I knew that was bad. It's probably bad.
Speaker 1: It's probably that. Probably that probably bad. They did, Like
Speaker 1: that is a big thing they do, the quarantine after
Speaker 1: after the moon landing, Like they were like, tubes are
Speaker 1: the cleanest things that we've ever made. The tubes on
Speaker 1: that little Mars rover are clean, baby clean, and they
Speaker 1: are getting sealed up. We are. They stay in space
Speaker 1: for like a while yeah, they don't an well and
Speaker 1: and I did wanna you know, just follow that story
Speaker 1: up with a story about why that will be the
Speaker 1: last time that we ever talked about rich people or
Speaker 1: corporations because now they are suing us. Yeah, not us specifically,
Speaker 1: but they're going after people who like to connect the
Speaker 1: dots out loud on the influence of money and battle
Speaker 1: will work or also known as skateboard b uh is
Speaker 1: being is as that I just decided to do that
Speaker 1: as a Farrell reference. But we all know, we know
Speaker 1: he gets down on that skateboard. We saw him get
Speaker 1: down in that word Burger parking on um. But you
Speaker 1: know he's being sued by this natural gas magnate in Texas.
Speaker 1: Why did he do something criminal? Oh? He pointed out
Speaker 1: the fact that the Natty gas pimp gave Governor Greg
Speaker 1: Abbott one million dollars right after the governor signed a
Speaker 1: bill into law that created a loophole for natural gas
Speaker 1: operators to be able to opt out of mandated winter
Speaker 1: ization of their infrastructure. Well, what does that even mean?
Speaker 1: It's not like that could ever harm me, know, chains
Speaker 1: on my tires? Who gives this ship to be? Like?
Speaker 1: How bad could winter in Texas, did anything bad happen
Speaker 1: a couple of winters ago were properly winterized infrastructure could
Speaker 1: have prevented the death of hundreds and led to the
Speaker 1: robberies people that's right, not dieing their homes. There was
Speaker 1: And then Abbott signed a bill like a few months
Speaker 1: later that made it seem like he was addressing the
Speaker 1: issue of like the winter storm, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I want to make it look like I'm advocating for
Speaker 1: Texans by saying we got it. We actually have to
Speaker 1: get serious about mandating. Are like mandating like the proper
Speaker 1: winterization of infrastructure and like not allowing these operators to
Speaker 1: to price gouge people. But again he left a loophole
Speaker 1: for the natural gas gang, which is why the Tech
Speaker 1: and the Texas Tribune points to the natural gas operators
Speaker 1: as quote the primary cause of outages during that time.
Speaker 1: So what the fund is wrong on and what is
Speaker 1: this distraught man to do for better? Or Rourke saying
Speaker 1: things like this guy's influencing the governor or bribing him.
Speaker 1: Oh well, he just pointed that out, the Greg Abbott thing.
Speaker 1: He was just like yeah, yeah, he's like look at it.
Speaker 1: He's like he's carving out loopholes for his buddy. This
Speaker 1: guy gave a million dollars. You think this isn't connected.
Speaker 1: This is directly relates to his business and way of
Speaker 1: making money. And this is this is a kind of
Speaker 1: corruption where it got. You know, like any any person
Speaker 1: who's like running for office with that sort of set
Speaker 1: of ideals is going to articulate. Well, his lawyers now
Speaker 1: are saying like, well, you know what, they said that
Speaker 1: this natural gas tycoon experience quote mental anguish from comments,
Speaker 1: ads and social media posts in which a works campaign
Speaker 1: suggested that the money was a reward for Abbott going
Speaker 1: easy on him? What else? Tell us what else? Honey,
Speaker 1: let's soothe your words. Quote better. Roorke told millions of
Speaker 1: his followers that Warren engaged in bribery, corruption and extortion,
Speaker 1: and that he profited from the death of his fellow
Speaker 1: Texans simply because as Mr Warren gave up perfectly legal
Speaker 1: campaign contribution to the candidate of his choosing, Governor Abbott.
Speaker 1: When you look at the comments that his followers put
Speaker 1: in on his tweets, they believe him. They believe that
Speaker 1: Mr Warren is a criminal that is engaged in profit
Speaker 1: over the lives of Texans. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: your profits. See the reason is if you spent the
Speaker 1: fucking money to properly protect your infrastructure and prevent the
Speaker 1: power outages for people which wouldn't have led to their
Speaker 1: deaths and and you know, after the after the people,
Speaker 1: that's the wild thing. Is not like a thing where
Speaker 1: it was like hindsight, we would have really addressed that
Speaker 1: fucker they are doing this and like paying him a
Speaker 1: million millions of dollars campaign contribution after they've they're funk up.
Speaker 1: Has already led to people dying, has already led to
Speaker 1: like a national news like just disaster, like something that
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about, and they're like, yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: the next thing we need to do is, uh is
Speaker 1: make sure that nothing, no consequences are ever felt from this.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I'm looking for some silver lining.
Speaker 1: Remember that are perfectly balanced judicial system is it runs
Speaker 1: on a on a system of precedent. Now, if we
Speaker 1: could establish a precedent that mental languish is enough to
Speaker 1: sue a politician for, then perhaps perhaps we're onto something here.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe even cover I've experienced mental languish from every
Speaker 1: over graph fee that I've ever experienced, maybe a little
Speaker 1: class action suit in that direction is in order. I've experienced,
Speaker 1: you know, mental languish, and well I remember, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was in college and I had to get all
Speaker 1: those loans because like we we made tuition in a
Speaker 1: student feast in the California public university system. What I
Speaker 1: remember that being source of mental languish. Maybe the half
Speaker 1: million students a year that were in school with me
Speaker 1: in the state of California would like to get together
Speaker 1: and see if there's a little something we can do
Speaker 1: to compensate ourselves for what we suffered. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just but if we could start suing
Speaker 1: people for mental languish and that I I just think
Speaker 1: that maybe we're onto something here the mental languish. And
Speaker 1: if the judicial system wasn't run by billionaires in business,
Speaker 1: you never know, let's let's open the doors. But again,
Speaker 1: like many people are saying, like obviously it's a bullshit
Speaker 1: slap lawsuit, and it's you know, meant to chill the
Speaker 1: speech of candidates or anyone who's wanting to point out
Speaker 1: that we live in this fucking oligarchy. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's that, and it could be a great blueprint for
Speaker 1: other you know, very sensitive earth fuckers who don't want
Speaker 1: to hear people accurately describe their actions. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a little dystopian language. Five. Yeah, you told
Speaker 1: the truth about me, so I'm suing you is just
Speaker 1: And I mean when you also look at it to
Speaker 1: this guy, like this gas guy, like he's in every
Speaker 1: he's making sure everybody's paid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like Ken Paxton, the Attorney general. After the storm, he's like,
Speaker 1: we gotta look into these gas companies, man, what the
Speaker 1: funk was that storm about? It looks like they were gouging,
Speaker 1: but the price gauging was out of control. But since
Speaker 1: then he's refused to say, like what's going on with
Speaker 1: that investigation? And then if you look at the donations,
Speaker 1: the same guy, Kelsey Warren's given at least two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to Paxton throughout his career, so it's like
Speaker 1: he stays on the good side of him. And then
Speaker 1: also the Texas Railroad Commission, which is the body that
Speaker 1: oversees like oil and gas and stuff in the state,
Speaker 1: you know, and like talks about price caps and things
Speaker 1: like that. He's given like over three nine thousand to
Speaker 1: like Texas Railroad Commission candidates in the last decade, So
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if anything, it's just one of
Speaker 1: these weird things where you see how it works. But
Speaker 1: again they're like, we have to prove the intent in court,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was just giving
Speaker 1: to it, like and it's it's this nebulous language that
Speaker 1: is allowed to for them to have a defense. We're going,
Speaker 1: I'm merely participating in the civics prod the civic process
Speaker 1: here and just giving money to a preferred candidate without
Speaker 1: really you know, but we're not gonna actually analyze what
Speaker 1: that means, right, And I think that's what this is
Speaker 1: what this lawsuit could end up boiling down to. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's being better work, he's being suited for a million dollars.
Speaker 1: I think better works just mad he's not a baller
Speaker 1: like this guy. You know. Yeah, that's and I think
Speaker 1: that's what this guy is saying. He's like, it's just
Speaker 1: all these haters. They hate that we're ballers. Al I
Speaker 1: feel like we're this is the I mean, Chad's are
Speaker 1: finally stepping up to assert their dominance in court. Which
Speaker 1: it's about time I can see that the visual representation
Speaker 1: that this is the apex of the white mail. This
Speaker 1: is this is it, This is h Yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: getting every Every billionaire looks like flassid wet sausage. But
Speaker 1: that's it's just something that happens. I guess when you
Speaker 1: have that much money. Speaking of flaccid wet sausage, we
Speaker 1: we on a fucking flaccid wet sausage. All stark at
Speaker 1: this guy's picture, and I misunderstand. I I saw in
Speaker 1: the document which you so kindly prepare for guests there
Speaker 1: you've You've included a photograph of a certain gentleman. And
Speaker 1: I'm still him for a billionaire because he has billionaire body,
Speaker 1: which is about the compliment I could give him, which
Speaker 1: I think we all recognize is not princey. And he
Speaker 1: has like he has like that vibe like when you're
Speaker 1: so privileged, like you still look like a baby because
Speaker 1: you've never had to live still, like you're not just
Speaker 1: surprised to hear the stories about with his haircut, that
Speaker 1: dodgy haircut. The haircut, Oh my god, yeah, it looks like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it. Who's the owner of the Raiders. Who
Speaker 1: has the bowl cut? Yeah Davis with the haircut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not Al Davis. Yeah, Al Davis. Is I think it's
Speaker 1: Al Davis's son maybe Oh yeah, yeah, he's got that.
Speaker 1: He's got that really wild jump like he's got a
Speaker 1: Caesar with bangs basically, yeah, like real real guaranteed he
Speaker 1: wasn't like giving an edge up. But yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: the person I'm talking about, Mark Davis, Al Davis, this
Speaker 1: one so worth looking at him and the gentleman we're
Speaker 1: about to talk to when we come back, not talked
Speaker 1: to talk about. No, we got him, we got him,
Speaker 1: We got got him on the Horse World. Man, I've
Speaker 1: got to have you on the show. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back. And state houses where
Speaker 1: all the good ship is going down these days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the wake of the election, all the state houses
Speaker 1: were busy finding ways rap elections since their whole idea
Speaker 1: has been stopped to steal. And then after the mid terms,
Speaker 1: it seems like the Republican's new obsession is the continued
Speaker 1: dehumanization of the LGBTQ community. Nothing to worry about their
Speaker 1: never yeah, yeah, I don't don't. If we got rampant
Speaker 1: anti semitism, homophobia. Yeah, yeah, this all ends, this is
Speaker 1: all gonna end. Well yeah, but like as it stands, right,
Speaker 1: there have been over one hundred sixty bills introduced in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three that are meant to discriminate against drag
Speaker 1: shows or trans people. They're fucking like they're they're putting
Speaker 1: the pedal to the metal. One particularly stupid bill comes
Speaker 1: from the aforementioned dick head from North Dakota. It looks
Speaker 1: wearing three hairpieces. I don't mean to come for the man,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that most of the trans community could
Speaker 1: really help, you know, how to lay a wig. Maybe
Speaker 1: like on the side of the rainbow. We can just
Speaker 1: have a US fix it. You are serving, Mark Davis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're serving. You're serving a white man cosplaying as Maya
Speaker 1: from Pen fifteen, but in the worst possible way, like
Speaker 1: you're like, hold on, what the fund is? This vibe
Speaker 1: a horrible insult to Maya from fifteen. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a bulk, you know what I mean? My looks she's
Speaker 1: not trip but not just so we're right, but that's
Speaker 1: a so that This man's name is David Clemens, and
Speaker 1: he just introduced a bill that would generate fift hundred
Speaker 1: dollar fines for using people's preferred pronouns using their preferred pronouns, Yes,
Speaker 1: require you. And what he means is that this would
Speaker 1: apply to any quote any entity receiving state funding, including
Speaker 1: a public school and institution under the control of the
Speaker 1: state Board of Higher Education and a state agency or office.
Speaker 1: They're basically saying, like, if you spend the time to
Speaker 1: acknowledge someone's pronouns, you will be fined. We're only going
Speaker 1: to be just completely We're not respecting anybody or any
Speaker 1: or what how who they are people. That's that's the
Speaker 1: fine quote. And again he goes even further. In the
Speaker 1: event that these biggots have like terrible gay dar or like,
Speaker 1: you know, a way to suss people out, he said,
Speaker 1: quote if sex, gender or gender, gender identity, or gender
Speaker 1: expression is contested, determination is established by the individuals. De
Speaker 1: oxy riboonucleic acid cool. So DNA testing, Yeah, they're so
Speaker 1: good with that. You have the state testing people's DANNA
Speaker 1: on demand is something typically that people who favor less
Speaker 1: government control are like all about This aligns perfectly with
Speaker 1: the general philosophy. Yeah, yeah, and there's already like other
Speaker 1: advocates have pointed out, it's like, what if you like,
Speaker 1: chromosomes aren't always straight up male or female, So what
Speaker 1: do you how are you going to even enforce this?
Speaker 1: This is just like some ignorant guys thing of being like, well,
Speaker 1: if they don't like it, we'll test their blood kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And it's like what yeah for girl for
Speaker 1: a girl? Like and what if what if someone like
Speaker 1: an intersex person wouldn't have like a traditional DNA profile
Speaker 1: where they could be like this is man, this is
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Again, this is so fucking backwards.
Speaker 1: And this is on top of other bills in the
Speaker 1: state that already banning gender firm and care for trans
Speaker 1: for trans kids, or banning trans girls from playing sports.
Speaker 1: They're just they're piling on all this nonsense, and even
Speaker 1: the their own state Judiciary committee said this bill was
Speaker 1: unlikely to work because it's written with tears and crayon
Speaker 1: and is also poor so poorly worded. They're even like,
Speaker 1: how are you going to enforce this? But this is
Speaker 1: all their ship, like all the way they're all based
Speaker 1: on like a fucking Facebook post. They didn't do any
Speaker 1: like follow up research on It's anytime you talk to
Speaker 1: one of these bigots. They're just they their ideas are thin.
Speaker 1: There is paper thin. I mean, their commitment is strong,
Speaker 1: but like they don't they haven't like looked into any
Speaker 1: of this ship. It's just all based on something that
Speaker 1: their cousin fucking wrote on Facebook. Yeah again, like this
Speaker 1: is not a winning formula, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: for candidates in the mid terms, it was only scoring
Speaker 1: culture war points on TV. Like, it wasn't putting. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, this is the this is like the
Speaker 1: platonium rob that will power the GOP to like, you know,
Speaker 1: like insane majorities. And again they continue down this hate
Speaker 1: path full steam. I mean, not to mention like already,
Speaker 1: like the dickheads on Congress, they're already bringing up a
Speaker 1: fucking fair this fair tax bullshit again, or they want
Speaker 1: to have a flat sales tax or a place like
Speaker 1: every other tax we have and another another giveaway to
Speaker 1: like the wealthy that they're just like, they're just you know,
Speaker 1: there's no real direction aside from create as much outrage
Speaker 1: as possible, score as many culture war points as possible,
Speaker 1: because actual actual legislating is far from a priority. It's
Speaker 1: just to create I don't know for whatever reason they're
Speaker 1: they're cling whatever gains they felt were made by people
Speaker 1: who are not cis head Christians in the last twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just confusing. It's a confusing Like I don't I
Speaker 1: could look for indicators and other societies that have freaked
Speaker 1: out about this and then fallen apart, which is what
Speaker 1: happens over and over again. But the obsession about it
Speaker 1: is so virulent, Like people are so angry about gender expression.
Speaker 1: It's an I don't understand the anger or what it's
Speaker 1: actually about. It's like it's like you're having you know,
Speaker 1: on a grand scale, we're having a fight that where
Speaker 1: we're screaming about a teapot. But if we were in
Speaker 1: the couple, we would know it's not about the teapot,
Speaker 1: Like what is this about? What are you mad about? Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't quite get it. And this isn't like
Speaker 1: a coming out. You can look at me and know
Speaker 1: that I don't express gender along strong binary lines. I've
Speaker 1: never been DNA tested. I have no idea what the
Speaker 1: results would be. Unlike woman with big air quotes, I
Speaker 1: just fall somewhere in the middle of my gender expression
Speaker 1: is leatherman like I have cargos like somewhere floating in
Speaker 1: a purpose like if and I feel like a coward sometimes.
Speaker 1: If they was in popular usage, that's probably what I
Speaker 1: would use. But I'm not interested in engaging in a
Speaker 1: linguistic fight. I see it more as just like clumsy
Speaker 1: English than anything else, like other languages are better at
Speaker 1: expressing the fact that gender is part of language is
Speaker 1: very funny and weird anyway, I don't care, but it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: I travel less and I do live in a conservative
Speaker 1: area now, but like I'm aware of being clocked in
Speaker 1: just this way that I know people walk away around
Speaker 1: with in a because you know, their expression means that
Speaker 1: folks are I in the town. And if they're so mad,
Speaker 1: I don't well. I think it's because everything, everything we
Speaker 1: see is it's trying to reset the scales. So like
Speaker 1: white sis head Christian hegemony is maintained, and every group
Speaker 1: that we are, every group we now offer consideration towards,
Speaker 1: is another group these people see themselves having to bow
Speaker 1: to because they're not They didn't used to have to
Speaker 1: bow to be Like, oh, I didn't realize about you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, systemic racism. Oh god, stop shoving someone in
Speaker 1: the bathroom? Is that submission? Well, I think again, for them,
Speaker 1: it's like, why do I have to now consider pronouns?
Speaker 1: What the funk is this? I'm I'm at the top
Speaker 1: of the sociological food chain where I shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: My consideration shouldn't go downwards. Ever, I'm here, y'all fucking
Speaker 1: deal with it, And so what now I have to
Speaker 1: be mindful about, Well, what what white supremacists policies have
Speaker 1: had in this country? And I'm not fucking doing that.
Speaker 1: That's bullshit. I don't want to talk about critical race theory.
Speaker 1: What you're saying now I have to defer to somebody
Speaker 1: because they said that they their gender expression is this
Speaker 1: that Now I'm not doing that. It's everything. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not extending I'm
Speaker 1: not extending my empathy towards these people. So now the
Speaker 1: natural instinct is to, well, then man, vaporize the funk
Speaker 1: out of them, like, start making it the law that
Speaker 1: actually considering them is illegal, that studying critical race theory
Speaker 1: is illegal. And again we're not even saying this was
Speaker 1: even being taught to fucking children. But they're putting laws
Speaker 1: on the books to be like, don't even fucking talk
Speaker 1: about ap African American studies in Florida. There's no value.
Speaker 1: There's no value to the right exactly. It's it's just it.
Speaker 1: It has no value to somebody who is not who
Speaker 1: They're only goal is to say, I'm only looking for
Speaker 1: reminders of my power as a cis head white person
Speaker 1: in America. If I have to say I'm sorry to someone, no, no, not,
Speaker 1: we're sucking up. Yeah. The entire civilization was around their
Speaker 1: ignorance for decades, you know, like it was like we've
Speaker 1: just what is polite is whatever you are comfortable with,
Speaker 1: as a says had white man. And that gave me
Speaker 1: the shivers. And that's another I'm sorry. I just put
Speaker 1: a picture on another legislator from Mississippi who was again
Speaker 1: trying to ban like trying to ban doctors from providing
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. And this guy looks like literally what
Speaker 1: you just talked about, Jack, someone who was built in
Speaker 1: the fires of ignorance. Yeah, and it will fight for
Speaker 1: every opportunity to make sure he's allowed to stay ignorant,
Speaker 1: keep his children ignorant, and make sure nobody ever pushes
Speaker 1: his hair back to see where his hairline actually starts,
Speaker 1: because he's got the he's got the wild flat people
Speaker 1: bangs that like come down into his eyes in a
Speaker 1: way that I'm not fully buying. Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: but this is where we're at. There, we're watching in
Speaker 1: real time the like legislative like the legislative manifestation and
Speaker 1: at every level of calling back this sense of like
Speaker 1: dominance and that there and trying to recreate a world
Speaker 1: that's like fucking Jim Crow era shit, which is like
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, that's them, that's their thing. That's
Speaker 1: not my problem, and I'm not and I don't need
Speaker 1: to begin thinking I have to make considerations in my
Speaker 1: day to day life about people I'm not really like
Speaker 1: not being exposed to or educated on, and I'm ignorant of.
Speaker 1: So the natural reflex isn't to learn or to open
Speaker 1: my heart, is to close it down and figure out
Speaker 1: how I can legislate my way out of learning anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we live in a you know, civilization where the
Speaker 1: rewards go to these people, like they still go to
Speaker 1: those people this guy is and fucking Congress, like the
Speaker 1: you know the guy you just showed a picture of
Speaker 1: is you know on showtime right now. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: good documentary the ATTICU prison riot, which I didn't know
Speaker 1: a lot about, so I was glad to get some
Speaker 1: better inside in. But it is a pretty in humane
Speaker 1: response to people asking to be treated like humans. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the folks with the boots wore those boots
Speaker 1: right on out of that prison, back to their homes,
Speaker 1: back to their families, and the people inside to prison
Speaker 1: that it was, you know, people spoke out to ask
Speaker 1: to be treated like people, and those folks who spoke
Speaker 1: out were specifically targeted and taken down. It is, it was.
Speaker 1: It's such a stark I think perhaps some of when
Speaker 1: I look at history and civil rights in the United States,
Speaker 1: I wondered why this prison riot hadn't made its way
Speaker 1: to the forefront in the way some other events had.
Speaker 1: And it is almost because some other events have a
Speaker 1: deeper degree of subtlety, like talking about who can ride
Speaker 1: the bus has a more humane level of subtlety. The
Speaker 1: ATTICU prison riot is on the nose in a way
Speaker 1: that leaves you with nosebleed. And that's important because things
Speaker 1: are that as is as it was, you know, we
Speaker 1: can have a debate in a classroom about that period
Speaker 1: of history. Debate is and rich, but you know, you
Speaker 1: can talk in a classroom about buses. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to talk about what happened in that place and the
Speaker 1: lack of aftermath sort of the facts that Basting changed.
Speaker 1: It's a worthy watch if you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: just get got it, have your eyes shad upon by
Speaker 1: the truth. Truly. Yeah, the there's so many stories like that.
Speaker 1: We we should just do a whole series that's just
Speaker 1: like the stories that you will hear from American history
Speaker 1: and be like, holy ship, why isn't this the first
Speaker 1: thing they fucking taught me? Like there's an episode of
Speaker 1: The Dollar. There's an episode of The Dollar about the
Speaker 1: Boston bus riots that is like the most damning thing
Speaker 1: about like how racist Boston is and just like massive
Speaker 1: you know race riots started by you know, wildly racist
Speaker 1: policies and racist people in Boston, and it just doesn't
Speaker 1: get brought up. It's like not a thing that you
Speaker 1: learn about in school. I think, to Caitlin's point, it's
Speaker 1: always the ones that are so obvious, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like like I didn't know the police dropped
Speaker 1: a bomb on people in Philly. Yeah, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what offer Hellica, what the fuck? Really?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's and you look
Speaker 1: at everything and you're like, oh my god, these uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that just looks like an extension of all the other
Speaker 1: terrible racist violence we've seen that we were supposedly moved past,
Speaker 1: but you know, it keeps popping up in these other ways.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see, uh yeah, it is. It is
Speaker 1: interesting to see how how we look back at this
Speaker 1: period because you know, anytime the society, let's a group
Speaker 1: become vulnerable and you know they begin picking away at it,
Speaker 1: that's truly the beginnings of some even more awful ship.
Speaker 1: And we've been experimenting with this same way of doing
Speaker 1: business for fucking ages now, so it's like really just
Speaker 1: harding the one The one thing I will say is
Speaker 1: that with that one specific bill in North Dakota, a
Speaker 1: lot of people came out to like oppose it. Not
Speaker 1: one person came to like support the bill at all.
Speaker 1: And what I mean even like the people in that
Speaker 1: committee were like, yeah, this isn't there's no way, this
Speaker 1: is like, this is not going to pass. But it's
Speaker 1: still going to the Senate floor for a vote. Um
Speaker 1: like in North Dakota. So again we'll see. But this
Speaker 1: is all. This is all part of these people wanting
Speaker 1: to keep up the regularly scheduled programming of saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: we can legislate our way to the top again by
Speaker 1: the humanizing and mothering our fellow here North Dakota. This
Speaker 1: is my plea. If I understand correctly, you or the
Speaker 1: least touristed state in the nation. And if that's not true,
Speaker 1: I apologize. Also, look at what just happened in your statehouse.
Speaker 1: We all have a lot to talk about. But I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure North Dakota that not enough people come to
Speaker 1: see you. I'm pretty sure it's South Dakota. Dakota has
Speaker 1: bad mountain with the people on it, and that's what
Speaker 1: everybody goes to see. You. North Dakota are sitting there
Speaker 1: full of beautiful spaces that could be full of gaze
Speaker 1: and their duel income, no kid lifestyle. Imagine the resort properties,
Speaker 1: Imagine the tourist dollars that you could tray in with
Speaker 1: those snowbirds. I'm just saying you're missing where the money is.
Speaker 1: Those grand shows people just throw money, did you know
Speaker 1: that at a drag show where the transit dance, people
Speaker 1: literally just throw American dollar bills at one another and
Speaker 1: just bring that money in there. You go, Caitlin as
Speaker 1: always truly a pleasure having you on the show. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff?
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Speaker 1: had to let the sink in. But I let that
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Speaker 1: You know when their little feet just flop over because
Speaker 1: their relaxed, so that one little joint that is neither
Speaker 1: elbow nor wrist flops. I like to when cats sit
Speaker 1: under their feet and they look like kids. They look like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called back cat, so we call it batmobile. Wow,
Speaker 1: I have a black cat too. I'm gonna call it batmobile.
Speaker 1: Looks like a little batmobile, right, I'll curled up with
Speaker 1: her little something whoa, and her yellow eyes says exactly.
Speaker 1: We have the same cat miles. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What the tweet you've been enjoying. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram and Miles of Gray. Like Caitlyn said,
Speaker 1: you can also find me on four twenty Day Fiance
Speaker 1: with Sophie Alexander, and also Jack and I have a
Speaker 1: basketball podcast called Miles and Jack gott Mads. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: let's see. And the tweet I like it's from at Richard,
Speaker 1: underscoring normal between it. I think the most my most
Speaker 1: misogynistic belief, and I apologize in advance, is that I've
Speaker 1: noticed that and again I'm sorry to say this. Sometimes
Speaker 1: women don't finish their cans of sparkling water as frequently
Speaker 1: as men do. And that was his take. And I
Speaker 1: have as somebody who I don't know, the thing is,
Speaker 1: I don't even finish my cans of sparkling water. I
Speaker 1: think it's uh. I think this is this affects everybody
Speaker 1: the same way. Although Her Majesty loves to leave around
Speaker 1: like loose half cans with two water. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm the notorious for the one sip ditch, so I
Speaker 1: have no stake in this argument. How do you feel?
Speaker 1: How do you sip? Because like I get it too.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I opened a can. I'm like, oh, should I
Speaker 1: need this? But I only really needed to sip. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like the first big sip that hurts, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna leave it on the kitchen counter.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to this can. Of course I am.
Speaker 1: And then were some of the fishes. This cannon not
Speaker 1: open another one, which is funny. This is also how
Speaker 1: I came across the thing about Jack when I used
Speaker 1: to say, leave a half opened passion fruit Lacroix in
Speaker 1: your car, and its smell like a new car. That's
Speaker 1: again straight off of me. Not finishing fucking cans of
Speaker 1: fucking sparkling water. I feel like this is everybody does,
Speaker 1: everybody's problem. It's not it's not my problem. My problem
Speaker 1: is the opposite. I drink everything that's in front of me.
Speaker 1: That's why I can't drink out. I drink so much,
Speaker 1: so fast. I am a thirsty, thirsty man all the time.
Speaker 1: And if you put anything in front of me, unless
Speaker 1: it's room temp water, which I can I can kind
Speaker 1: of take your leave. But basically anything cold I will
Speaker 1: I will drink it. So I drink water. We're We're good.
Speaker 1: You can have everything. I see. You're too hot. I
Speaker 1: think it also has to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm so sweaty that like my body is just naturally
Speaker 1: like ever since I was young, was always just like
Speaker 1: I gotta get, gotta get more fluids, Go go, go,
Speaker 1: go go, so I can win chucking contests of lots
Speaker 1: of varieties. And it's not something I'm proud of. It's
Speaker 1: just a fact. Matt Lee tweeted, love kicking clicking on
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna lean to that ship. Uh, it's funny
Speaker 1: because like on our website, the font is like cup
Speaker 1: of noodles to so you know it's that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what the nuances of your your artistic oubra, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's me So Extra. The there was a sushi place
Speaker 1: by where I used to live in Santa Monica called
Speaker 1: me So Fishy. Oh yeah, I remember that place. I
Speaker 1: just bothered me a lot that that was what they
Speaker 1: went with because it, first of all, it's a play
Speaker 1: on Miso horny, I think, right, of course, and then
Speaker 1: fishy is not what you want? You know that means
Speaker 1: that means it's straight up ship. I mean fishy is
Speaker 1: like bait, is like a bait chop, that's what Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that? I think that's making fun of what Like,
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Speaker 1: me with a pride of being Japanese and taught me
Speaker 1: to really embrace that side of my culture. He was
Speaker 1: part of that is actually being able to speak Japanese.
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of the fact that I'm able to
Speaker 1: occupy a dual space. And it's in my d NA
Speaker 1: heard that part. You're fortunately not being one thing and
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