1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. So 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and ahead, he got jacked. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: This is the big red rage presented by Emergency Air. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: Sacked again Kalis Campbell slammed the ground by Buddha Baker 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 3: like a torpedo. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 4: He came flying into the backfield. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: The rage is brought to you by Emergency Air. The 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: difference is we care. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 5: What to grab by Tramick Right, that was spectacular. 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: And by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot Com Slash podcast. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: All right, seas rising up, Jimper your rising vision, blurry rage, 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: take it Ober. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: Here's Paul Calvic. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm ready. And Ron Wolfley. 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: You know, borts about March madness in the NFL. That 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: equates to the new league year, free agency, kaponomics, mock drafts. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: This is where you trade the helmets for hard hats. Right, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: a construction zone if you will, no uniforms, just orange cones, 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: orange vest It is time to build, and hopefully what 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: you construct in these weeks here will be moving ready 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: by week one of the regular season. It is the 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: big Red Rage presented by Emergency here, Paul Kelvic here, 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: Ron Wolfully there. Well, if this is where you know what, 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: maybe it doesn't get a lot of attention, But when 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: you get into a season and you look back tis 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: the season right there, the new league year, you start 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: to realize, all right, this is where the building blocks 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: come from. 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Paully, And once again, this 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: is the reason why the NFL is a year round sport. 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: It really is the building in the off season, the construction, 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: the roster construction of the off season. It is critical 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: to actually winning games in the fall. 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: So the big Red Rage landscape our game plan, if 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: you will, guess what we're going to hear from a 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: bunch of new free agents new Arizona Cardinals Andrew Wingard, 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: Isaac Saamalo, Tyler Aljeer, Kendrick Bourne. Let me tell you 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: there's a couple of internal competitions going on right now. 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: Who's got the best hair between Roy Lopez, Saamalo and 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 4: wingerd who's bringing the most energy. Kendrick Bourne is right 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: up there. Wingard's going to give him a run for 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: his money. So all that's coming our way, We're gonna 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: get to some of the free agent signings and what 46 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: it means for the draft, what it means on either 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: side of the ball special teams as well. But Wolf, 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: we had a little bit of news, little bit of news, 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: mac Wilson Senior letting everyone know on social media today 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: he is going to be wearing wait for it, the 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: number one this season. 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Oh oh, that is interesting right there, Okay, number one 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: and Mac Wilson Senior. And you know what, Honestly, I 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: think that's gonna fit because man, it's a situation where 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: last year did the Arizona Cardinals miss Mac Wilson. You 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: better believe that they missed him in a big, big way. 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: In fact, if we're talking about the most underappreciated, underrated 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: free agents signing so far, it might be that same position. 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a minute. But there's a 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: bit of a trickle down. See Mac Wilson Senior used 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: to wear number two when Will Johnson was in Michigan 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: making all those plays. What number did he wear? Number two? 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: So Will Johnson is going to take Mac Wilson Senior's 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: old number. So Mac Wilson Senior number one with Kyler gone, 65 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: and then Will Johnson is going to be number two 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: this year. So yes, okay, that makes sense, Paul. Well By, 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: By the way, we can talk about a bunch of 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: other names, and there's a lot of names, and there's 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: a lot of movement. I don't know if there's one 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: signing or one guy that stands out to you Wolf 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: when it comes to maybe most important or you know, 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: makes the most sense. Where does your eye go? 73 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a matter of fact, Paul, for me, it's 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: two people. Actually, it's Isaac Samalo of course, and tylerrel Jeer. 75 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Those two guys specifically the Arizona Cardinals. To me, I 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: want to see them get more physical on the line 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And of course Isaac Saamalo coming from the 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. I got a bit of a scouting report 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: about a year ago on Isaac Samalo from my older 80 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: brother Craig, of course, and Max Starks is somebody who 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: knows him really, really well. So specifically, those two gentlemen 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: told me really really good things about Isaac Samalu and 83 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the type of player that he is. It's going to 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: be awesome to see him added to this offensive line. 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: And then tylerrel Jeer and This is something you and 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I have had conversation about, Polly, But this guy is 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: a North South physical runner. I absolutely love how he 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: runs the ball. I said it when he came into 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: the league he was a fifth round pick. It blew 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: my mind that he was there in the fifth round. 91 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: He ran the ball so well and has run the 92 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: ball well since being a pro. In between the tackles 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: and man, does that sound an awful lot. 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 4: Like James Connor, No doubt. I mean there's there's going 95 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: to be an internal competition who's going to break more 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: tackles this year? Tyler Ljier, James Connor. They've both been 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: top five in the league in miss tackles force, So 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: that'll be something to watch it. What does it say, 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: maybe if he had zoom out a little bit just 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: about the style of football the Cardinals want to play. 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: If you're going to beat teams this year and you're 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: in the most talented division, not only in the NFL 103 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: but in the NFL many years. I mean, the NFL 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: dot Com put out its power rankings because of course 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: they have to put out power rankings in March. They 106 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: can't help themselves at NFL dot Com, so they put 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: him out and number one Seattle defending Super Bowl champions, 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Number two the Rams who feel like they should have 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl, and then number five the forty 110 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 4: nine Ers after they added Mike Evans and Christian Kirk, 111 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: the former Cardinal, among others. So three of the other 112 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: teams in the division are top five in the most 113 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: recent power rankings. So to me, okay, how are you 114 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: going to beat these teams? You know what first thing 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: you do is you beat them up, and to your point, 116 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: you make sure you're physical enough to hold up. So 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: so yes, you get Isaac Samlin. We'll hear from him 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: a little bit later. But flip over to the other 119 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: side of the ball, you know, Dalvin Thomas in a 120 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: cap casualty. He ends up signing with the LA Chargers. Okay, 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: so now you bring in Roy Lopez, who got poached 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: by the Lions this time a year ago. He gets 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: a two year deal reported seven million guaranteed ability to 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: make up to eleven million. Great stuff for the Valley 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: native fan favorite Roy Lopez. But then you also bring 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: in Andrew Billings, who, at six one three forty plus 127 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: is another one of those nose tackle run stuffing dudes. 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: So you know, you have Walter Nolan, you have Darius Robinson, 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: but if you can solidify four, toify the point on 130 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: that defensive line in the epicenter, I think that was 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: definitely a focus this free agency. 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paulie, I absolutely love the physicality and the signing 133 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of physical football players, especially on the line of scrimmage. 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: We already talked about Sayamalu, But you know what, Elijah 135 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Wilkinson Paully, here's a guy that played right tackle of 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: course for the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, this is a 137 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: guy that's you know, was an offensive line that finished 138 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: in the top ten in terms of rushing yards per 139 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: game and Paully protecting their quarterback. There were number eight 140 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and rushing yards per game, 141 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: and there were number five in sacks per attempt allowed. Well, 142 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: started all seventeen games ball. It wasn't like this guy 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: was inserted for seven or eight games or a mishmash thereof. 144 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: He started all seventeen games. And the fact that he 145 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: was able to hold up to the point where they 146 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: had a successful offense and an offensive line that was 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: considered really really good. I think that also is somebody 148 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to throw in there and say I want 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: to get more physical on the line of scrimmage. And man, 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: some of these signings they get me jacked up. 151 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: And you know what else, because there have been so 152 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: many mock drafts and have the Cardinals going right tackle, 153 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: going offensive tackle, ye number three overall, Elijah Willkay And 154 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: I know you're on board with that, and I have 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: I have no problem with that. But if you don't 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: sign an Elijah Wilkinson, if you don't sign a viable, 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: starting caliber right tackle to replace Joonah Williams. And by 158 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: the way, the Cardinals signed the other Joonah Williams, who's 159 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: a defensive lineman. He's also going to be on the 160 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: other side of the ball. But done to do digress. 161 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: But Elijah Wilkinson there, So now it's not as much 162 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: of a tell. It's not as much of a need 163 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: at number three over or maybe a top round two. 164 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: So let's say you want to go edge rusher. Now 165 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: you do theoretically have the ability to go edge rusher 166 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 4: because to your point, Wilkinson did start seventeen games last 167 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: year at right tackle. 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: Yes, And who would you like to see them sign, Paul, 169 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Who would you like to see them draft at number three. 170 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: David Bailey, thank you. Yeah, if he's there. If he's 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: there the Edge Rusher, Okay, but I Francis Mauino, your 172 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: guy is there at number three. I get it as well. 173 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: You know, I have no idea. There's one area near 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: the one of us that I've ever been allowed entry into, 175 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: and that's the draft room. We've never seen the big 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: board to this day, so I have no idea how 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: they have them rated. I have no idea whatsoever. All 178 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: I know is you can join Cardinals Premiere Travel August 179 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: sixth or the eight celebrate Larry Fitzgerald's induction to the 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame. You can find the Cardinals 181 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: own Boeing Triple seven and a lot more. Go to 182 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: fits hof trip dot com for all the details. We 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: continue with a big red rage presented by emergency Air. 184 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Lots of deep. 185 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: Trafisky. 186 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 6: Lets you truck intercepted stepping in front, is wingered, and 187 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 6: a winner remains on his feet into Pittsburgh territory. 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: All right, So if you go back to Cardinals in 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: Jacksonville a year ago, which was a three point Jacksonville win, 190 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: here in the az welcome back in to the big 191 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: red rage presented by emergency air Paul calvc Ron Wolfley 192 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: in the newest Arizona Cardinal Andrew Wingert, who was the 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: deep safety on that fourth down heave by Jacoby Brissett 194 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: to Xavier Weaver and who comes in at the last minute, 195 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: closes a lot of ground in a short amount of 196 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: time and then gets his paw up there on the 197 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: fly to break up that fourth down desperation heat by 198 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 4: the Cardinals. Well that was Andrew who maybe just maybe 199 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: caught the eye of the general manager many Ausinport because 200 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: guess what, he comes on board a one year deal 201 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: reported three to four million after seven years with Jacksonville 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: and wolf If you've seen Wingert, he has the hair 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: flying out of the helmet, not unlike Dennis Gardak. There's 204 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: a similar vibe there between the Barbarian and Andrew Winger. 205 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, break it on man. Let's hope 206 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: he plays like the barbarian played. Winger to me once again, PAULI, 207 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: I look at him and he's more of a box guy. 208 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: I think a box safety that also is really going 209 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: to help the Arizona Cardinals out in terms of transition, 210 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: and there's special teams and you know how much I 211 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: love that, the affinity that I have for Andrew winger 212 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: because he knows how to play in transition and plays 213 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: a very, very physical game, just like the Barbarian. 214 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: Did you know he had eighty four tackles last year 215 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: as a safety. That's pretty dan good. We're so used 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 4: to Buddha Baker being so elite. He was one of 217 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: the leading tacklers Andrew Wingert on that Jacksonville defense, a 218 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: team that went from four wins to thirteen wins. We 219 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: talked to him about that. He's done that twice with 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 4: Jacksonville where they finished in last place and then the 221 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: next year gone to the playoffs. So if you're looking 222 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: to make that same jump, here's a guy who's been 223 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: there and done that. It's interesting because, among other things, 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: he told us just how close he thinks the Cardinals are. 225 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: That he thought they really had enough talent on that roster. 226 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: And you know on how many close games did the 227 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: Cardinals lose, especially the first two thirds of last season. 228 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: But here's a guy, really experienced, age twenty nine, self 229 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: made man, right, he was undrafted and fast. In fact, 230 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: we talked about that. Take a listen to and you 231 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: can notice the work ethic, you can notice the mentality intensity. 232 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: As we started talking to Andrew Wingert and among the 233 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: topics just about him going undrafted and his play style. 234 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: I've told people this a lot. 235 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 7: Going undrafted was probably the best thing that ever happened 236 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 7: to me, because I remember going into my senior year 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 7: at Wyoming, kiper Is saying this, McShay saying that, and 238 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, I'm the greatest thing ever. I'm going 239 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 7: to get drafted and blah blah blah, and then boom, 240 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 7: it's like, oh, so my senior year I was slacking off. 241 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 7: I was reality check. It was a great reality check 242 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 7: for me, and it lit a fire in me. It 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: got that dog back in me, and that's kind of 244 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 7: who I was. I was a two star recruit out 245 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 7: of high school. Wyoming was my only FBS offer, so 246 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 7: going undrafted really kind of rekindled those things within me. 247 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 7: And I was like, I'm going to make the fifty 248 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 7: three and I'm never going to look back. And then 249 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: I did, and I thankfully put into the game. You 250 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 7: know a lot of guys kind of just go around 251 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 7: unconscious and just play and don't really try to elevate 252 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 7: themselves mentally, and that's kind of been my biggest thing 253 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 7: closing in on a decade career is the mental side 254 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 7: has really pushed me and that's what I've really focused 255 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: on and it's helped me a ton, and I'm just thankful, 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 7: like I said, going undrafted to to get that fire 257 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 7: within me to do all those little things that I 258 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 7: did to get myself here. I wouldn't have been able 259 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 7: to if I hadn't have done those, So it's just 260 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 7: a and I kind of am even more motivated now 261 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 7: than I ever have been. 262 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: So for those who haven't seen you play, how would 263 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 5: you describe your style as a safety. 264 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say it's it's rugged. I love to 265 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 7: play kind of old school. Do your job, but once 266 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 7: you arrive, do it violently and do it psychotically kind 267 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 7: of if you will. So that's kind of going to 268 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 7: be my It'll probably be similar to Buddha just absolutely 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: fly around, go one thousand miles an hour and see 270 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 7: what happens, so but with a little bit of discipline 271 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 7: there to do your job. So hopefully they see that style. 272 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 7: And I've definitely tried to expand my game as as 273 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 7: my career has gone on. To you know, be more 274 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 7: finesse and cover well and you know, break on the 275 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 7: ball with range and the deep you know, deep path, 276 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 7: deep middle. So continuing to evolve and hopefully I can 277 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 7: be a do it all guy. 278 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: You know. 279 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 4: Buddha calls it running into the darkness. M hm. 280 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: Are you born with that or is that something maybe 281 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: your desperation of not getting drafted. I mean, that is 282 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: that ingraineding you with so pointer you just think that's intrinsic. 283 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: It's a good. 284 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 7: Question because I remember when I first started playing football, 285 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: I was so scared, like in little league and in 286 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 7: middle school, Like I was like, didn't want to get hit. 287 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 7: And then for whatever reason, you know, my dad one 288 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 7: day in little league football, he's like he's like, you know, 289 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 7: be the f and hammer, not the f and nail, 290 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 7: you know, And I was like, okay. And then there 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 7: was one I remember one day it hit me in 292 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: like middle school practice. I finally just didn't, you know, 293 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 7: didn't tense up, and I actually went and I was like, 294 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 7: holy cow, that didn't hurt. I'm fine now. And then boom. 295 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 7: From from then on, it's like, go in, go one 296 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 7: thousand miles an hour. Be the hammer, not the nail. 297 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 7: So whether it's intrinsic, whether it's learned, I don't know, 298 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 7: but thankfully I got it somehow, some way. 299 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: Well, Wolf, ten years, ten years in the Utfeld, that 300 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: was definitely your mentality. Be the hammer, not the nail. 301 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: Tell PAULI, I mean, this guy is my soul. 302 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Bro. That's the first that I have heard from Winger, 303 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: And oh my goodness, that is so spot on so 304 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: many different things. I wrote down here taking notes as 305 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: he was speaking. PAULI, first of all, just the undrafted 306 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to him, you know, 307 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of guys who would 308 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: actually say that, but in retrospect, he obviously was talking 309 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: about what it did, the burr that it put under 310 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: his saddle, metaphorically speaking and making the fifty three and 311 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: never looking back, and his style when he was talking 312 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: about his style being rugged and old school and psychotically 313 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: playing the game of football. Paul, you know this because 314 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: I've told you this many many times. But I you know, 315 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: so many guys thought I was insane, They really did. 316 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: They thought I was insane. In Paul, is you know 317 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I nurtured that thought? Yea, because I knew if you 318 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: thought I was insane, I had the advantage because I 319 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: was going to do some crazy stuff. And you know me, Paully, 320 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I believe that God is holding me right in his 321 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: right hand. And because He's holding me in his right hand, 322 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't ever have to worry about anything that's gonna 323 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: happen to me on the football field. So I could 324 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: run down the field like a madman. It just faery 325 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: my face and just some guy that was three times 326 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: my size, and it didn't matter. I loved it. And 327 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: yet I'm listening to Andrew Wingard talk about pretty much 328 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: the same mentality. It comes from a different place with him, 329 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: but man, the mentality in the end is there. 330 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: When he says, do it violently, do it psychotically. There's 331 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: a lot of Dennis Gardak in that. You know that 332 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: it really is. And he said when he showed up 333 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, because that's where Gardak went, that the two 334 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: of them saw each other for the first time across 335 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: the locker room and there's like, oh, yeah, you're my 336 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: kind of guy. You know, two guys with long hair 337 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: and start a bed. Yeah it's uh. And by the way, 338 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: you know, some people think he resembles Dennis Gardek or 339 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: some people think he has a Pat Tillman vibe, especially 340 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: when had long hair. I think both those plus add 341 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: a little Kirk Cobain, that's me. That's he's sort of 342 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: like a walking ink blot test, you know, in a 343 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: lot of ways. It's uh. And and I let him 344 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: know the long history of supreme safety play in the 345 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: history of the Arizona Cardinals Hall of Famer Larry Wilson, 346 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: five time Pro bowler, Adrian Wilson, Tim McDonald who was 347 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: so underrated and so good, right, yes, Tyron, Matthew, Buddha Baker. 348 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: I mean, so you know, there's a lot of history 349 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: great safety play, and and I just think he's going 350 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: to be a really good fit in this Nick Rowlis scheme. 351 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably, No, I think you're right about that. He's 352 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: got the mentality and the physicality. Do you be that 353 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: box guy? I think, And I think they're going to 354 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: get a little bit more out of him in regard 355 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: to his safety position, in backing him a little bit 356 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: off the ball. We'll have to wait and see how 357 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: he develops, and that regard in Nick rawler his defense. 358 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: Yet having said that once again too, this is a 359 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: guy that loves to play in transition on special teams, 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: and Paul, I think I think the Arizona Cardinals need 361 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: a guy that is like that. Once again, I think 362 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: they need a guy that is dedicated to the transition 363 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: game and playing it as physically as you possibly can. 364 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: And hopefully that is going to be something that will 365 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: be contagious inside that locker room. 366 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: And again, he's on a one year deal. So you know, 367 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: all these national pundits can talk about some teams maybe 368 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: not you know, playing their hardest or No, there are 369 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: so many guys in there on one and two year deals, 370 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 4: on prove it contracts. So a guy like Andrew Winning, Yeah, 371 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna bring it, There's no doubt about it. 372 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: So between the state CA, Yeah, go ahead. 373 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I just ask you this? Sorry to interrupt you, 374 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: but you know I was looking at my notes here 375 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: and it says he goes by Dewey. 376 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: Okay, what is that, Paul deal? 377 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: What do you know about that? 378 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 4: He says, it goes all the way back to when 379 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 4: he was four years of age or so, and it 380 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: was either a sibling or a neighbor kid, and younger 381 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: kids couldn't pronounce Andrew, and they called him do Dewey 382 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: and it's stuck. And so ever since he's been called Dewey. 383 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: And he's got an alter ego named Morris the Blade, 384 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: and even I did have an alter ego, Paul. 385 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is next level. This is he says, when 386 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: he gets into his flow state and he's on the field, 387 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: he tries to channel Morris the Blade and alter ego, 388 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: which I guess just you know, take no prisoners type 389 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: of style. I'm not exactly sure, but I'm very intrigued 390 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: to find out that in the fact that the Cardinal's 391 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: safety room they all go by nicknames Buddha, Rabbit, Dewey, 392 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: and Bug Keaton Crawford. Hey, little more about Cardinals ticket 393 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 4: options go to ezycardinals dot com slash tickets. We continue 394 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: with a big red rage presented by Emergency. Are former 395 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 4: Falcons running back? 396 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 8: Do you know? 397 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 6: Outjeer reach an agreement today with the Arizona Cardinals that 398 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 6: the Cardinals Mardinals. 399 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: Is a new the floor operation out there. That is 400 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: quite a tough backfield. When you've got Jaimes Connor coming 401 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: up the injury and Tyler Algier who runs hard, that's 402 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: a pretty good combination of the Arizona Cardinals out in 403 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: the desert with their new head coach Michaelafloor, al Tier 404 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: seeking the end zone. 405 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Handy bowling balls in for the touchdown enough to turner 406 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Aljier the power back. 407 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: He left those too, puts into the end zone. 408 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: That Alchier is trying to slice. 409 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 9: The tunes he's dishing got coachman. 410 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh here, I love the descriptive words, right, bowling, ball, muscles, powers, 411 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: dishes out punishment. Yep, that pretty much describes Tyler Algier. 412 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: I know when we saw him for the first time. 413 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty two is rookie year, second last game of 414 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 4: the season, Cardinals at Atlanta, And in a commercial break, 415 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: the two US and Dave Pash we're talking and we're like, 416 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: who is this guy? And they're like, Okay, played linebacker 417 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: at BYU before he became a second team All American 418 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 4: running back. Well, that makes sense based on the style 419 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: of play and how hard he runs the ball. It's 420 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Here Paul kelvc 421 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: Ron wolf Lee, and Tyler Algier. Wolf your thoughts is 422 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: a guy who spent ten years in a running back room. 423 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly. This is a guy you and I have 424 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: had conversations about in the past when he was playing 425 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: for the Falcons, of course, just how much we love 426 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: the way that he ran the ball. He is a 427 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: North South guy. November there was a North South guy. 428 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: He's five ten, two hundred and twenty five pounds. I 429 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: just like saying I just like saying five ten, two 430 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: twenty five because I know, right around November, right around Thanksgiving, 431 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: you're somewhere in that vicinity. He's gonna be five ten, 432 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: two thirty. Paul. I'm just telling you he's gonna put 433 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: on five pounds over the year. And it's so hard 434 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: to tackle a guy that dips in rips when he's 435 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: five to ten, two hundred and twenty five, two hundred 436 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty pounds. 437 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: Tyler L. 438 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Geer shacks me up, because if you tell me you've 439 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: got James Connor and you have Tyler Ljeer, those are 440 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: your two backs. What did What does that tell you? 441 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 10: Paul? 442 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Does that tell you anything? 443 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: Hashtag pound game that they're they're coming right at you. 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're coming right at you. And I love 445 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: that and you know it, Paul. 446 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: All Right, So Tyler L. 447 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Geer. 448 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: I mean, just a lot of respect for a guy 449 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: who was a walk on at BYU and then ended 450 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: up as a second team All American over sixteen hundred 451 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: rushing yards his last year at BYU. He's a fifth 452 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: round rookie rushes for one thousand yards in twenty twenty two, 453 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: his rookie year. The last four weeks. He was the 454 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: second leading rusher in the NFL over the final month 455 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: of his rookie season. And then what happens They take 456 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: Bjeon Robinson in the top ten. And so here's a 457 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 4: guy who's look, he's looking forward to a chance to 458 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: be you know, now he's gonna split carriers with James Connor, 459 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: but still, I mean to be showcased a little bit 460 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: more and to be playing in Mike Lafleur's scheme. Here's 461 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: Tyler Algier on that. 462 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 10: E scided about the opportunity. I think, obviously we've seen 463 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 10: how successful the Rams are, so being able to have 464 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 10: coach Laflour here and she being able to possibly possibly replicated, 465 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 10: I think that's the goal. I think they're bringing in 466 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 10: a lot of guys to build that. So I think 467 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 10: just building a team just to get some wins. So 468 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 10: I think that's the most important thing. 469 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: You can hear the entire sit down at Cardinals cover too. 470 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is all the receivers in the 471 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: tight ends they say, oh we can't wait, you know 472 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: coach Lafleur scheme the Rams and forty nine ers. Well, 473 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: it's not just the passing game. It's the run game, man, Wolf, 474 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: you know better than anyone. I mean, Shanahan runs the ball, 475 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: Sean McVeigh commits to the run, and so I fully 476 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: expect this to be a balanced offense. 477 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: Paully, There's no doubt about it. This is a thing 478 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: that really gets me jacked up when I think of 479 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: the Rams. By way of examp, I think of the 480 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: zone scheme because back when Sean McVay was first taking 481 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: over the Los Angeles Rams, of course they ran a 482 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: ton of zone and they have they through the vast 483 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: majority of his career as the head coach of the 484 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: LA Rams, He's run a ton of zone scheme. But 485 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: having said that, PAULI the last year specifically last two 486 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: years really, but the last year specifically, Man, they've also 487 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: blended in a lot of power schemes, gap schemes that 488 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: are being run with twelve personnel and thirteen personnel using 489 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: two and three tight ends. I just really am excited 490 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: by the possibility of this. It's one of the reasons 491 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: why I want to continue to build on the line 492 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, build the offense. And if you told me 493 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals were gonna draft, if you're here, we're 494 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead. They were gonna pick Maui Noah at 495 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: number three and go ahead and use their second round 496 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: pick on a menu. Well, pregnant, Paul, I'd be done. 497 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: I'd be ready to go. Those two young guys, mix 498 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: them in with the old guys, and let's see what 499 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: kind of nastiness we can get at the point of 500 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: attack when you have Tyler Ljeer and James Connor stoking 501 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: it in a North South fashion. 502 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: You know the saying that a run game is a 503 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: quarterback's best friend. Well, by the end of last season, 504 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissette was awful, lonely because the Cardinals were down 505 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: to their fifth and sixth string running backs, thirteen different 506 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 4: offensive linemen. Nobody had fewer rushing attempts than the Arizona Cardinals. 507 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: So you know, Jacoby Brissett's looking forward to it. Here's 508 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 4: my question from your experience, how much will a Tyler 509 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: Algier and James Connor push each other in that running 510 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: back room? Because you know how competitive James Connor is 511 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: and you know how you know how physical he is, 512 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: and then Algier plays with a similar style, and then 513 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: there's the old saying, you get enough dogs in there, 514 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 4: the cats start barking. Well, what about what about Trey Benson? 515 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 4: You know he's an approved. 516 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Year Yeah, no, Paul, there's no doubt about it. I 517 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: could see Trey Benson being more of a third down guy. 518 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: But in regard to James Connor and Tyler Lgier, can 519 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: I just say I don't know how much they're gonna 520 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: push each other because individually, Paul, these guys are dogs. 521 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: They are James Connor. Yeah, James Connor's not gonna go 522 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: out and go oh Tyler ed Joe. Now, I'm gonna 523 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: run even harder. And you know Lgier's not gonna look 524 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: at James Connor and say, oh, man, I better run. 525 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: No. 526 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna feed off each other, no doubt 527 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: about that. But I think the great thing about it 528 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: is their approach is never gonna change individually, they are 529 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: who they are. 530 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: What's amazing is they both played on the defensive side 531 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: of the ball in college. It's just remarkable. And then 532 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: Tyler that is he said, he's not superstitious, so we 533 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: can mention this. He's never lost a fumble in his 534 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: NFL career, so that that is remarkable to him. He said, 535 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: you know, ball security is job security. That's the way 536 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: he was always taught. So he takes that ultra seriously. 537 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: And then we sort of talked about, all right, guess what, 538 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: it's third and one, it's fourth and you gotta have it. 539 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: You're gonna give it to Algier, You're gonna give it 540 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 4: to James Connor. Who you're running behind. Well, I think 541 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: that guy right now would be Isaac Samalo, the pro 542 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: bowler in twenty twenty four, he's getting more than thirty 543 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: million over a three year contract. Reportedly. You know, he's 544 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: highly rated. A year ago as the left guard for 545 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: the Steelers, you gotta figure he's gonna be plugging play 546 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: for the Cardinals. Here he is Cardinals Cover two sit down. 547 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: We had a chance to visit with him, and Isaac 548 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: Samalo is starting with his game and his pursuit of perfection. 549 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 11: I think offensive line is very tough to you know, 550 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 11: pinpoint which you're good at, what your weekend, because as 551 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 11: soon as you say you're good at something, uh, there's 552 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 11: a good chance in the NFL, you know, you'll be 553 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 11: exposed to it's exposed to it. And offensive line is 554 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 11: very similar. I always thinking to like corner, right, you 555 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 11: could have sixty five great reps, but that one rep 556 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 11: that's not so great is what will be focused on 557 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 11: versus you play d line or receiver. You get one 558 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 11: really good play a game and you're, you know, all pro. 559 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 11: So I I really restrained from trying to name strengths 560 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 11: and weaknesses. You know, I'm obviously very self aware, but 561 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 11: to me, you know, I'm always trying to work on 562 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 11: what can I do to get better? What can I 563 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 11: do to help my teammates. 564 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 8: How do you then, at the end of a game 565 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 8: grade yourself. We see what the metrics are, you know, 566 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: but how do you at the end of a Sunday say, 567 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 8: all right, this was a good game, regardless of you know, 568 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 8: the winner of the loss. 569 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I just look at pfif. 570 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: Well right here it says well, I mean you have 571 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: the lowest pass pressure rate allowed. That was next gen 572 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: stats for any guard last year. 573 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 11: That's you know, that's good stuff. But I think most, 574 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 11: especially offensive lineman, know at the end of the game 575 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 11: if they played well, if they didn't play well. I 576 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 11: think first and foremost, I just want to give unbelievable 577 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 11: effort and everything I do in each play and try 578 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 11: to finish as much as I can. Obviously, you never 579 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 11: want to let your QB get hit, and you never 580 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 11: want the running back to your gut to make the 581 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 11: tackle in the run game. But you know, there's there's 582 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 11: so much that goes into feeling if you had a 583 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 11: good or bad game. But at the end of the day, 584 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 11: like you know, I try to be as a harsh 585 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 11: the harshest critic of myself and keep myself at a 586 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 11: really high standard regardless of the wins and losses, because 587 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 11: at the end of the day, you know, the only 588 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 11: way I can help the team win is by doing 589 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 11: my job at the highest level, so that that pursuit 590 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 11: of perfection is always there. Perfection is not attainable, but 591 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 11: the pursuit of it and the process of it, I 592 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 11: think is. 593 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 8: Ten years in the league, about to go into year 594 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 8: eleven as a former third round pick. Could you have 595 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 8: imagined being in the league this long and being this successful? Uh? 596 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 11: Not at all. But I will give a shout outs 597 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 11: Tolannie Rosen, who is a sports psychologist that really helped 598 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 11: change my whole mental attitude when while I was in Philly, 599 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 11: to really live in the moment and not you know, 600 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 11: especially at offensive line, you let you let things kind 601 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 11: of get to you. The past plays and it catches 602 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 11: up and it feels like Domino's falling, and it feels 603 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 11: like you're kind of drowning in the deep end of 604 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 11: the pool. Being able to kind of go from one 605 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 11: play to the next and not necessarily focus on the 606 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 11: past or the future or any circumstance, which is what's 607 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 11: my job right now. How can I play that to 608 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 11: the best of my ability. I really try to approach 609 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 11: that and during the season, during the offseason, you know, 610 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 11: not let the stresses of future or past stuff get 611 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 11: to me because there's always a time for that. 612 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 4: It's really interesting. He credits that sports psychologist for his mentals, 613 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: and ever since he left Philly, he's really played his 614 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: best ball. I mean, he had some great years for 615 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: the Steelers Pro Bowl or two years ago. He's sort 616 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: of kind of blossomed late in his early thirties. And 617 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: here's a guy who came out of high school and 618 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: is a true freshman at Oregon State, a good Oregon 619 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: State program at the time. He started as a true 620 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: freshman at center like he ran the whole show. So 621 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: you know, obviously high football IQ as well. I just 622 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: looking forward, we've had a big turnstyle because the injuries 623 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: at the two guard positions the last couple of years. Man, 624 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: if you can get a full season of an Isaac Samalo, 625 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: I think that'll go a long way. 626 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, I'm thinking of first and ten rundown situation. 627 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, 628 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: tip Ryman lined up to the left and then Trey 629 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: McBride lined up to the right. Of course, I'm thinking 630 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: of Tyler l Jeer or maybe it's James Connor with 631 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: his toes at seven yards, and I'm thinking of a 632 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: check with me, we're either going to run it to 633 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: the left behind Tip Ryman or Trey McBride to the right, 634 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: and just go ahead and run the zone scheme and 635 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: let these guys go where they're gonna go, and I 636 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: think of Sayamalo as well being a guy that is 637 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna come off the ball. Can you imagine lined up 638 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: at left guard alongside Paris Johnson Junior ling. Just the 639 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: fact that's a physical, physical left side of the line 640 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, I'm really really excited to see what that 641 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: could yield this season. 642 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, if it's third and gotta have it 643 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: or fourth down, you're running left right, Yeah, you're definitely running. 644 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. Are the Cardinals going to run 645 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: the tush push this year? I know, Wolf, it's not 646 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: your favorite, but guess what. Isaac Samalo told us that 647 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 4: they ran it in Philly when he was there, and 648 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: he's a fan of it because it's unstoppable and if 649 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: you run it right, if you run it right, and 650 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: so he said he's actually going to suggest and actively 651 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: suggest to coach Lafleur, we need to run the tushbush. 652 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Pauly. You know the way I feel about this. I 653 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: despise the tushbush. I really do know. I don't think 654 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: it's a football play. I do not yet. Having said that, 655 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: if you're not using it, if the NFL is going 656 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: to allow you to use it, not trying to win 657 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: if you're not using it seriously. Because if it's almost 658 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: automatic on a fourth and one or a fourth and two, 659 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: third and two, it's almost automatic if you run it twice. 660 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: That's the reason why I hate it, because it shouldn't 661 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: be automatic in that situation, but it is if you 662 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: run it the right way. And that to me is 663 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: the reason why I say, yeah, I hate the tush push, 664 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: But man, would I use it? You better believe I'd 665 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: use it. 666 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: All Right, We're gonna save the highest energy guy for last. 667 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 4: We'll come back. We'll hear from Kendrick Bourne. Also, I'm 668 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 4: gonna name a few names when it comes to maybe underrated, 669 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: underappreciated free agent signings. As we continue to take a 670 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 4: look at this revamp roster, what it means going into 671 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 4: the draft, what it means in terms of special teams, 672 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: A number of editions there as well. We roll on 673 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 4: It is the big red Rage presented by emergency Air 674 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: Dubernate backpedaling. Is gonna play it. 675 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: From inside the thirty Duberni play's a steed deep into 676 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 3: the return game. What to play by Duberni du Breney 677 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: the Probowl return man Ubernet across the thirty five, trying 678 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: to get to the outside. 679 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 4: He does. 680 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: Dubernay has midfield. 681 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 4: Let's see where Duberne gets the up fast of all. 682 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 4: Dubernet rehearsing field, trying to get to the edge. 683 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: He's got the X. 684 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 6: DuVernay, you buckle up anytime he's got his hands on him. 685 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: Here comes Devin Duberney. He's works three. 686 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 4: Devin Uberne Uberne from the thirty two. 687 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 6: He's gotta rock Formillison. He takes a. 688 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: M goody Jeb knows. 689 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 6: Ubernet takes it into the end zone. 690 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: He goes. 691 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: Dubern will prim it out. 692 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: He's gone look down the way, chase by the kicker. 693 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: The day he goes, who three yards? 694 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: Want some great up there? I always like the return 695 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: man's chances when you hear the words chased by the kicker, 696 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 4: especially when Devin Dubernay is a former Texas one hundred 697 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: meter state champ in high school ran at ten to 698 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: two seven one hundred meters, a two time Pro Bowl 699 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: return man for Baltimore twenty one twenty two. Comes over 700 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: from the Bears, and here's a fun factoid. Cousin of 701 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, Devin DuVernay. How about that? 702 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: Wow? 703 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 4: Yep, with that Texas connection. It is the big red 704 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: rage presented by Emergency or Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and 705 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: and look Greg Dorch on board with the Lions. Amari 706 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: de Mercado he exited as well. So Devin Duberne a 707 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: guy return. He's return a ton of kicks and a 708 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 4: ton of punts, and right now, Wolf you gotta figure 709 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 4: he's going to be the main weapon in that regard. 710 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI there's no doubt. And you know me, I 711 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: love myself a good kick returner. I mean, are you 712 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: kidding me? Right now? Vaisik comes to mind. Oh yeah, 713 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: when I think of DuVernay, DuVernay is a guy. He's 714 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: way taller than vib Vi was only five to nine. 715 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's got a couple inches on him right there. 716 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: But Vi was really compact as well. And Dubernay is 717 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: a little thick too. He's over two hundred pounds. Paul, 718 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: he had once again, I love this because I know 719 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: how a punt return kick return guy can impact momentum, 720 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: especially on the sideline. 721 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 4: Paul. It's not just on the field, it's also on 722 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: the sideline. 723 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Suddenly you get a big return, even a twenty yard return, 724 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: whether it's a punt or a kickoff, and you bust 725 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: that first line and you actually give your offense field position. Man, 726 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: you can feel the momentum. Special teams is one area 727 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: in the game of football where you truly can build 728 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: momentum and feel a momentum shift if you make a 729 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: play in teams. 730 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are other guys who I think are 731 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 4: going to be playmakers on special teams. A Jack Gibb 732 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: who comes over from New England, a backup linebacker out 733 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: more on him in a little bit. Simmy fay Hoko, right, 734 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: who made a lot of plays on teams last year 735 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 4: before his season ending injury. You mentioned Andrew Winger. That's 736 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 4: where he got his start. He still plays team so 737 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 4: that's all good. And then of course Devin Dumerne, a 738 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 4: receiver you got to figure, all right, he'll, you know, 739 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 4: push a Kendrick Bourne for that number three receiver spot. 740 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 4: Simmy fay Hooko also in the receiver room, and which 741 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 4: brings us to Kendrick Bourne and just his ten years 742 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: in the league, he's got a million dollar smile, his 743 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 4: energy is contagious, and he has a long history with 744 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: Mike Lafleur. He broke into the league with the forty 745 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 4: nine Ers as an undrafted receiver who played with Cooper 746 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 4: Cup at Easter Washington. Mike Lafleur was the receivers coach 747 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 4: at the time for the forty nine Ers. In fact, 748 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: we'll let Kendrick Bourne take it from there. 749 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 9: Mike would get me prepared. He would meet with me extra, like, hey, 750 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 9: I need you to be ready when you're going in 751 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 9: a game. So we'd meet about twenty minutes extra before 752 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 9: the game. As a young guy who was what I needed. 753 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 9: Sometimes I hated doing it. I mean, I just want 754 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 9: to go play. Mike just let me go play. But 755 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 9: he knew that he was preparing me. Giving me that 756 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 9: extra twenty minutes allowed me to maximize in the game. 757 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 9: And so what I loved about Mike is. 758 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: He that's what he did. 759 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 9: That pressure didn't feel so heavy when I was going 760 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 9: in on third down as a young guy, like I'm 761 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 9: getting the ball. I kind of going I knowing I'm 762 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 9: getting the ball, like and I need to make this play, 763 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 9: keep us on the field, and I just had confidence 764 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 9: And it was all because of Mike. 765 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 4: He gets a two year deal, comes over from the 766 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 4: forty nine ers. You know a lot of good stories 767 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 4: from Kendrick Bourne about being on the Niners sideline. It's funny. 768 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: He cited the trash talking that Trey McBride would throw 769 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 4: all the shade he would throw at the Niners sideline, 770 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 4: Like you know what a different dude tray is during 771 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 4: the game, he said. After the second game, the one 772 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 4: here this past year. That was the game where Michael 773 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 4: Wilson went off for fifteen grabs a buck eighty five 774 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: on eighteen targets, he said. He went up to Michael 775 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 4: Wilson after the game. He said, I don't know who 776 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: you are, but you're a baller. My name's Kendrick. Nice 777 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 4: to meet you. 778 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: That was great, Yeah, PAULI you know, once again, when 779 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: I think of the Rams as well, I think of 780 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: eleven personnel. 781 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 11: I do. 782 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: I think of Sean McVay and I think of eleven personnel, 783 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: one back, one tight end, three wide receivers. And the 784 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: signing of Kendrick Bourne to me was so big because 785 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, of course, Michael Wilson and Kendrick Bourne big. Literally, 786 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Bourne is a pro. Okay, That's what 787 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: I think of he's going to nowhere to go. He's 788 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: going to be able to run the right routes, and 789 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: if you've thrown the ball, he's going to catch the 790 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: ball the vast majority of the time. Michael Wilson exactly 791 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: the same way, Marvin Harrison Junior. These are big guys. 792 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: In all three of these guys, the one thing they 793 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: have in common, Paully, is the fact they all will 794 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: block when called upon to block. And I love that, Paul, 795 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: And it's one of the things that I think of 796 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: when I think of a team that might run the 797 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: ball an awful lot in rundown situations. Out of eleven personnel, 798 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Bourne is going to get a ton 799 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,479 Speaker 1: of reps out there on the field because of those 800 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: three wide the combination of those three guys, they can 801 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: run good routes. Squared away, you can throw them the ball, 802 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: they'll catch the ball. But more than that, they'll also 803 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: block in rundown situation. And I know that you don't 804 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: think of a receiver. Hey, it's so good that this 805 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: guy will go block. But at the same time, that's 806 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: how big plays actually happened, receivers blocking downfield. 807 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 4: And he's not going to get ten targets a game. 808 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: Obviously he's wide receiver three. If that's the role he 809 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 4: ends up earning, right, But he talked about, you know, 810 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 4: guess what wide receiver three in money moments on third downs? 811 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: You know what does the defense do? Well, they're all 812 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: over Trey McBride and let's say you're going against the Rams, 813 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 4: and he just added like Trent McDuffie, right, and now 814 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 4: he's on Marvin Arrison Junior. And then they added another 815 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: corner and okay, Michael Wilson, and maybe they have a 816 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 4: little extra help over the top of Michael Wilson. What 817 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: we see out of Jacoby Brissett, we saw the ability 818 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: of him for him to go through his reads and 819 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 4: his progressions and if there's one experienced guy who can 820 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 4: find the fourth option, it is Jacoby Brissett. So it 821 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: just seems like, you know, wide receiver three is sort 822 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 4: of forgotten about until he makes a key third down 823 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: catch that extends a game winning. 824 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: Drive exactly poly And again to me, that is Kindric Born. 825 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: The guy is a pro. 826 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: So here's the one underappreciated signing. Maybe underrated to me 827 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: would be the linebacker Jack Gibbons. He comes over from 828 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 4: New England. He started the Super Bowl six three, two 829 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 4: forty two, age twenty seven. Four years in the league, 830 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 4: he's had like a half dozen double digit tackle games. 831 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 4: When he's given an opportunity, he's been really productive. But 832 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 4: the reason I like this Wolf is because you have 833 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: an experience proven inside backer. So knock on wood if 834 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 4: something happens to Mac Wilson Senior. It's not like a 835 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: year ago where you know you have a rookie learning 836 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 4: on the job. You have a guy who can truly 837 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 4: coordinate the defense and can be really productive, especially in 838 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 4: run fits. And I know you may not agree with this, 839 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 4: but what about on Keith urd Downs returned Mac Wilson 840 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: Senior to the edge because he's such a good pass rusher, 841 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 4: and here comes Jack Gibbons to play the medal. 842 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that, Bally. It just saw 843 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: Mac Wilson Senior to be a good inside linebacker. Just 844 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: be a good mike backer. Will you please just play 845 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: mike backer for us. We'll worry about, you know, the 846 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: possibility of moving you around. We'll let Nick Rowlis worry 847 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: about that, but just let him be a good Mike 848 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: backer for me. The guy that catches my eye. You 849 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: already mentioned a Bali, but it's Roy Lopez. It is 850 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez. This guy, to me is a dog. He's 851 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: a baller. You know, He's one of my favorite guys. 852 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: I hated to see him go. I hated to see 853 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: him leave the Arizona Cardinals last year, of course go 854 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: and play with the Lions. Roy Lopez to me is 855 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: an absolute dog, and I'm glad he's back. 856 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 4: We had a chance to sit down with him as well, 857 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 4: and and Roy talked about just his love for the game, 858 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 4: the fact that when it comes to those high leverage 859 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 4: moments in a game, he lives for that that he said, 860 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: that's where you know I earn my paycheck is is 861 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 4: when they're trying to come off the ball and get 862 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 4: that one dirty yard. And I got to take on 863 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 4: the double team, and then I flashed back to my 864 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: days as a state champion high school wrestler, and it's 865 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 4: all about the hands and the hips and leverage. And 866 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 4: it was just great to visit with Roy Lopez again. 867 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 4: You know him, he just oozes football, doesn't he. 868 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And Polly, by the way, six too. He's really 869 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: about six one and a half In about three hundred 870 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: and thirty pounds. That's real nice inside. Yeah, that's real nice. 871 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: No doubt. And as we mentioned Andrew Billings, take a 872 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 4: look at him when you get a chance. Sixty one 873 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 4: three forty plus, So a couple of immovable objects there 874 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: in the interior d line. All right, special thanks as 875 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 4: always Jim Olmahundro, Tody Fincher, Max Brown for Ron Wolfley 876 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 4: on Paul Calvic. A free agency edition of the Big 877 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 4: Red Rage. As the Cardinals continue to build this roster 878 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 4: and track towards the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. That'll 879 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: do it for the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air. 880 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: Yaw, you've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented 881 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 2: by Emergency Air. The difference is we care Harrison. 882 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 4: Dies for the en zone. 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