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Speaker 1: Jesse Griffiths. But that's not what we're gonna talk about. First.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna talk about first?

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Speaker 1: Steve Hi, Jesse Hi, thanks coming on the show. Jesse

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Speaker 1: has a brand new book out. It's a follow up

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Speaker 1: to the Hogbook. Was the Hogbook called the hog Book?

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Speaker 3: That's correct, the Hogbook? I got a right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's called the Turkey Book, The Turkey Book, Master of

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Speaker 3: clever book names No, Well, it.

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Speaker 1: Just comes right out and says it. Yeah, the Hogbook.

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Speaker 1: If you don't, if you're not already aware, the Hogbook's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: If you're a hogbook, if you're a wild hog namesayer,

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Speaker 1: get the Hogbook. The Hogbook tells you everything you need

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Speaker 1: to know. Talking to you Southerners tells you everything you

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Speaker 1: need to know about judging, processing, preparing, dealing with hogs,

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Speaker 1: wild hogs.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: And I've before, I've remarked that I called Jesse the

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Speaker 1: hog apologist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would love that, by the way, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But a turkey requires no apology. They're just good to eat.

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Speaker 1: But the Turkey Book is thick.

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Speaker 3: It is. It clocked in at almost as many pages

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Speaker 3: as the Hogbook. I thought it was going to be

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Speaker 3: a daintier book and it didn't turn out that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's elegant, it's thorough, it's beautifully put together. The

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Speaker 1: Turkey Book. We're gonna dig in with Jesse and talk

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Speaker 1: about the Turkey Book, but we're gonna cover some stuff first.

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Speaker 1: You people joining us on YouTube. I'm holding a large

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you call it.

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Speaker 3: I think you're menacing.

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Speaker 4: You're not holding it's supposed to be a bowie knife.

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Speaker 2: I think it lays right in between a knife and

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Speaker 2: a sword.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bowie knife. Apparently Cal put this in Seth's office.

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Speaker 1: I came in and I'm like, the Hell's that? Seth said,

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody says who comes in here. Since cal

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Speaker 1: put it in there, and Seth pointed out that it's

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Speaker 1: going to go in the auction house of oddities.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Perfect for cutting up teal.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, if you lie a lot, you get

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Speaker 1: in trouble with the Gambling Commission, the FTC or who

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Speaker 1: does who regulates gambling, Like Barstool got in trouble because

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Speaker 1: they had that. Like they had a sports bet called

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Speaker 1: the Can't Lose, but you could lose real bad, but

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Speaker 1: it was a joke. It was called the Can't Lose.

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Speaker 1: They got all that trouble. Well, in the spirit of that,

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Speaker 1: this is real gold yep. This is like is there

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Speaker 1: grades of gold. This is the best gold.

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Speaker 2: It's a genuine.

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Speaker 1: Sas tech gold bluegill. This is from this is from

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Speaker 1: King Tut's private stash. This gold.

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Speaker 3: Handmade it.

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Speaker 1: He he taught, handmade this.

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Speaker 2: And he even engraved the Ducks Unlimited ye logo in

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Speaker 1: That actually wasn't that was his personal duck hunting sign

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Speaker 1: adopted adopted by du.

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Speaker 2: And as will he wrote, Ducks un Limited can have

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Speaker 1: And Daniel Boone killed this stag. Daniel Boone killed this stag,

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Speaker 1: and Jim Bowie as he went down fighting at the Alamo. Well,

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Speaker 1: Crockett queer in the corner.

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Speaker 3: We got to do this again.

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Speaker 1: While Crockett quivered in the corner. Jim Bowie killed several

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Speaker 1: Mexican generals with this blade.

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Speaker 2: Seen some ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got all the paperwork proven all this. I

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Speaker 4: Available to you the price of your choosing.

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Speaker 1: And this will be in the auction house of bodities,

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Speaker 1: King Tut's gold, Daniel Boone's stag horned thing, and Jim

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Speaker 1: Bowie's actual Mexican general slaying steel. I'm thinking about pairing

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Speaker 1: it with uh my black powder six shooter. That would

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Speaker 1: sweeten the pot, which was gifted to me by the

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Speaker 1: California Rifle and Pistol Association.

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Speaker 5: What are those people that uh reenact stuff called LARPs? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: LARPs with your still on net that they're blade they

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Speaker 6: That reminds me of Clay's illustration. Maybe he could, you know,

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Speaker 1: That in the auction that what else is coming up

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Speaker 1: in there? We haven't we haven't picked our dates yet,

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Speaker 1: but we got like other good stuff.

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Speaker 4: You well, I know, like wyoming b h as uh

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Speaker 4: bringing together some folks to provide like a real Wyoming

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Speaker 4: adventure experience for the auction. For the auction house oddities,

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Speaker 4: we typically provide some experiences which schedule wise, we got

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Speaker 4: to come together on and figure that out sooner rather

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put some of these furs behind.

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Speaker 3: Me in it.

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Speaker 2: We have an f HF chess rig that's fur lined.

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Speaker 2: For the outer is a muskrat, which I think we

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Speaker 2: it's in this one.

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Speaker 1: So ye, lots of good stuff coming up. Oh we

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Speaker 1: told you has like in your crin in your like

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Speaker 1: little deal? Has have we already released the Jeff Foxworthy?

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Speaker 1: Is Jeff Foxworthy interview already gone up? When these people

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Speaker 1: are listening to this? Now? You know what Jeff Foxworth

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Speaker 1: he told me before we start recording. That's of interest. Well,

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Speaker 1: number of things that I don't want to share, but

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Speaker 1: one thing he told me is I was making He

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Speaker 1: made me a coffee and I said, do you got

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Speaker 1: any milk or anything? And he doesn't And he said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Because I liked the hunt a lot.

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Speaker 1: I forced myself to learn to like black coffee really,

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Speaker 1: because he says, you always wind up somewhere and there's

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Speaker 1: like some coffee, but of course there's no cream or milk,

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Speaker 1: and that's how he always drank it milk sugar trained himself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, God almighty, think of the time we would get

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Speaker 4: back in our lives from meat eater shoots if we

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Speaker 1: Conversace pressure that would come off whoever shopped. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: to be like no, no, no, get what you think is

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Speaker 2: Clay Clay definitely does a glass of half and half

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Speaker 2: and splash of coffee.

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Speaker 1: So he he flat out trained him, which I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about doing, as I say here drinking my cream and coffee.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about quitting. I mean, I quit alcohol, I

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Speaker 2: I tried doing it for a while because uh, Evan

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Speaker 2: Hayfer kind of shamed us that one time on that shoe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: better with cream.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's a vulnerability, dude. When I think about

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Speaker 1: the end of the world, the world ending, all humans dying,

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Speaker 1: you can be able to find coffee. Yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: I met a fella at the Western Hunt Expo Cafe Mule,

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Speaker 4: boys he foothills off the back of some rescue mules.

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Speaker 4: I know this guy, Yeah, just for other folks hiking

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Speaker 4: by the same name. He's another retired Uh he's former

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you met him. Yeah, he's a nice guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really nice guy. But he's like, yeah, do you

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Speaker 4: want to a cup of coffee? I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it'd be great, and he's like half and a half.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, try try to shame you.

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Speaker 4: No, I asked too. I was like, like, because he

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Speaker 4: obviously had it sitting out for everybody, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you're a fan of God's Country Podcast and

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Speaker 1: you're listening, if you're listening right now, you can go,

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Speaker 1: uh listen to luke Holm's episode of God's Country Podcast

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Speaker 1: with Dan to read isbel that's live right now. Go

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Speaker 1: check that out tomorrow, dude, you if you want to know,

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Speaker 1: like an ongoing fight I have with credits this God,

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Speaker 1: good lord, Okay times never mind.

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Speaker 2: Me mean tomorrow at the time of this record, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: This, if you well know, if they're listening to this

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Speaker 1: right now, like if they're there's a lot of moving

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Speaker 2: April twenty third.

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Speaker 1: This is a soft announcement, right.

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Speaker 1: We're doing ten shows coming up this spring. And you

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Speaker 1: know what I just did. I just lined up turkey

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Speaker 1: hunt for one of them mornings, really, and I said,

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Speaker 1: now there's gonna be other people wanting to get in

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Speaker 1: on this turkey hunt. I'll start actually talking to Dave Smith.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, there's other people are gonna want getting in

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Speaker 1: on this turkey hunt. He says, I'm already shutting the door.

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy to help him. I'm happy to get

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Speaker 1: spread people out. Everybody on that bus is going on

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Speaker 1: behind turkeys the day off. So listen, Dave, you better start.

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Speaker 1: You start working the phone and get more spots lined.

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Speaker 1: April twenty third.

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Speaker 6: Where in Mesa, Arizona. Okay, that's the first spot.

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Speaker 1: Then San Diego, Okay, then Anaheim, than Anaheim, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of like it's like Disneyland.

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Speaker 4: It's like five blocks away from Disneyland.

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Speaker 3: Steve fest me, I already looked.

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Speaker 1: Then Sacramento like Disney lamb.

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Speaker 6: Oh hell yeah, man, oh, he's probably when you're hunting,

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Speaker 6: like he's gonna probably go to That was.

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Speaker 1: One of the take of my kids. There is one

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Speaker 1: of the worst things I ever did.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's awful.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I had a leg of lamb. If I told the story, no,

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Speaker 1: Then what happens phil Spokane, Washington on the lineup? Turkey

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Speaker 4: You ever see it? I think it's in the Wilma

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Speaker 4: But a big draw was fishing in the Clark Fork

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Speaker 6: Oh quick note on Bob Dylan. The inside the Museum's

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Speaker 1: So it's the heat pipes. Then it's a great tune. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Cal's gonna be there for a bunch of them. He's

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Speaker 6: Right, most people did not seem to like it. But again,

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Speaker 4: Survey what's survey shows or or you're saying the survey shows.

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Speaker 1: We did a survey so so Spencer tested out recently

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Speaker 1: instead of trivia, he tested out a survey show where

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Speaker 4: More importantly the person sitting next to him, Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that's funny.

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Speaker 1: We're figuring out out it'll it'll be a right.

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Speaker 4: Did you do the version where you gotta bet you

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand how he scored it, and that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was arbitrary number, like.

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Speaker 2: Answer, you would get less point?

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Speaker 1: Like you know, he needs to think through it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, one.

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Speaker 3: So that system.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the weirdest thing about it is it

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: My dad sent me the deafine member. We had a

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Speaker 5: You can't by a definition? Yeah, he wanted you to

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Speaker 1: Uh, thank you, mister Henderson, thanks for clearing that up.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, I can believe this, This is

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Speaker 1: something like that show. The dude comes up to me

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Speaker 1: You're gonna think I'm lying. This is the truth?

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Speaker 6: Does has Jesse heard the background of the bean saying?

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Speaker 1: this a fresh set of eyes will always find more beans?

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Speaker 1: It alludes to pick and pole beans, right, you know

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Speaker 4: It'd be hilarious if he was the poacher.

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Speaker 1: said during jury questioning when he's talking to his jury pool.

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Speaker 1: He did not want to with the other attorney involved.

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Speaker 1: He asked the jury pool, are you familiar with the

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Speaker 1: saying a fresh set of eyes finds more beans? Six

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Speaker 1: Fresh set of eyes? Are you saying a fresh set

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Speaker 2: That's that's sneaky?

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Speaker 4: it makes you really wonder what type of case this is?

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Speaker 4: How egregious.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, was he trying to get him

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Speaker 1: been using it a lot in the medical field. Remember

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Speaker 1: I said that would have implications for finance. Turns out

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Speaker 1: has implications for medicine. A radiologist rites, in the first

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Speaker 1: time I tried your proverb was on our breast imager.

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Speaker 1: When I was in high school. I got a buddy

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Speaker 1: that saw a sign for a breast imager and thought

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Speaker 1: it was a breast imaginer. I'm not joking.

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Speaker 4: I'm laughing not because of that, but because you think

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Speaker 4: that you're saying you're made up saying has implications in

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Speaker 4: the field of medicine.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, No, implications could be applied in the field of medicine. Yeah, applications,

449
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Speaker 1: applications and applications and radiology. Radiologist says. The first time

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Speaker 1: I tried your proverb was on our breast imager. We

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Speaker 1: were discussing an upcoming difficult breast ultrasound guided biopsy. You

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Speaker 1: following that we are having trouble with matching the MRI

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Speaker 1: findings with what the ultrasound was showing us. She told me,

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Speaker 1: this is his colleague that she would repeat the ultrasound

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Speaker 1: prior to biopsy, that perhaps she could find what I

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Speaker 1: and the technologist couldn't find on the earlier study. I stated, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good idea. You know what they say, a

458
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Speaker 1: fresh set of eyes always finds more pole beans. And

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Speaker 1: she replied without pause, right.

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Speaker 6: At one of our poll beeing shirts.

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Speaker 1: Now this is this next bit we're gonna talk about,

462
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Speaker 1: dedicated to caw because we're gonna return to Cal's favorite subject,

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Speaker 1: canceling canceling Stellar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is greatly abbreviated.

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Speaker 1: As we've reported widely, they're trying to cancel our our

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Speaker 1: Stellar who named who was one of those old timey

467
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Speaker 1: naturalists who had a tendency to name everything after himself.

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Speaker 1: So he's like, hey, there's a sea lion, sea line.

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Speaker 1: I don't call that Stellar's sea lion. Oh look at

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Speaker 1: that cool looking jay. I'm gonna call that Stellar's j

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Speaker 1: And now the Ornithological Society's trying to take anyone, any older,

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Speaker 1: any old white dude who put his who has a

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Speaker 1: name attached. They're trying to scrub them out of the

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Speaker 1: naming convention. And the guy wrote in to invite us

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Speaker 1: to consider what an interesting fella Stellar was. In light

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Speaker 1: of his impending elimination from the historic record, Stellar named

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Speaker 1: a sea cow after himself, which is now extinct. In

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Speaker 1: his The Beasts of the Sea by George Wilhelm Steller,

479
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Speaker 1: he talks about a fun little joke they would play

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Speaker 1: if they're cutting up doing explorations on a Stellar sea cow.

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Speaker 1: He says, if only a very slight aperture should be

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Speaker 1: made with the point of a knife, the liquid excrement

483
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Speaker 1: a ridiculous thing to behold, would squirt out violently, like

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Speaker 1: blood from a ruptured vein, and not infrequently the face

485
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Speaker 1: of the spectator would be drenched by this springing fountain.

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Speaker 1: Whenever someone opened a canal upon his neighbor opposite for

487
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Speaker 1: a joke and describing the phallus and describing the penis

488
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Speaker 1: of an animal, says, the penis of the male is

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Speaker 1: thirty two inches long, and with it sheath is bound

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Speaker 1: firmly in front of the abdomen and reaches clear to

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Speaker 1: the navel. In a word, it is very of course,

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Speaker 1: it is very coarse and obscene to look upon, very

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Speaker 1: much like that of a horse, and ends with the

494
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Speaker 1: same sort of a gland only larger, just trying to

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Speaker 1: bring him to life.

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Speaker 6: He seems like a very interesting individual, German born nationalist,

497
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Speaker 6: first European to Alaska.

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Speaker 1: Who took great interest in Native peoples in native life ways,

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Speaker 1: and went out of his way to record those with

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Speaker 1: respect and admiration. Brody, you ready to do your squirrel report? Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: don't lose hope, Jesse, We're gonna get.

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Speaker 3: I've been here before.

503
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Speaker 5: This isn't actually new news, but it's it's new to us.

504
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that we didn't hear about this earlier. So

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Speaker 5: there's a black phase of gray squirrels, eastern gray squirrels,

506
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Speaker 5: which most people have seen, right, like you guys have

507
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Speaker 5: all seen them. And I think the conventional thinking for

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Speaker 5: a long time was that those were just melanistic squirrels,

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Speaker 5: you know, just a color phase.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, like like did I have often told people,

511
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Speaker 1: have always told people that a gray squirrel will throw

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Speaker 1: a black squirrel offspring, right. And I've noticed that just

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Speaker 1: growing up in our yard. I've noticed that you'd like,

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Speaker 1: there'd be years one you had mostly grays, mostly Eastern grays,

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Speaker 1: and then it would be predominantly black phase grays. And

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Speaker 1: I've always watched that. M hm, you know, come and go.

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Speaker 1: It's very anecdotal, but yeah, like there was like this

518
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Speaker 1: shift in and out, in and out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you'd see I mean, we would have some

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Speaker 5: areas where there's none and then some areas where there's

521
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Speaker 5: like it was common to see them black.

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Speaker 1: You might shoot a limit of five and it would

523
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Speaker 1: be like you wouldn't really think that much of it

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Speaker 1: if you shot five black phase gray squirrels.

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Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.

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Speaker 2: You guys had more black face squirrels up north there, yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: than we had.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the thing. We also have more fox

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Speaker 5: squirrels than you had.

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Speaker 1: Down in the mountain, and we had always had a mix.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And it turns out that the fox squirrel comes

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Speaker 5: into play for why there are black face eastern gray squirrels.

533
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Speaker 5: This is a study that came out like four years ago,

534
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Speaker 5: and and I'll just start reading here. Despite differences in coloring,

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Speaker 5: eastern gray squirrels and so called bla squirrels are actually

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Speaker 5: members of the same species, which kind of goes with

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Speaker 5: what we were saying. But they owe their distinctive appearance

538
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Speaker 5: to interbreeding between gray and fox squirrels. The fox squirrels

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Speaker 5: carry a faulty pigment gene known to give some members

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Speaker 5: of the predominantly reddish brown species, which fox squirrels gives

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Speaker 5: them a darker fur. And this gene variant passed from

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Speaker 5: fox squirrels to gray squirrels I via mating. So that's

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Speaker 5: kind of surprising. I don't think you know, I've never

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Speaker 5: heard that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this came up because we're working on a sportsman's atlas, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which would be like one hundred places around the country

547
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Speaker 1: that every hundred anglers should know about. Ye, And it's

548
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Speaker 1: all just kind of maps and like specific weird spots

549
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Speaker 1: and maps and like every mammoth mass, every known mammoth

550
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Speaker 1: masst on kill site, World record bass.

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Speaker 5: The weird story of Oneida traps.

552
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this weird, kind of crazy sex colonies used to

553
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Speaker 1: make traps. And then we're doing a thing about distribution

554
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Speaker 1: of pre squirrel distribution.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like this what this art, this article is not

556
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Speaker 5: saying that these these are like hybrid squirrels though. It's

557
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Speaker 5: just a gene that gets passed into the gray squirrel

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Speaker 5: population which then pops up.

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Speaker 1: Now and then.

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Speaker 5: Something I don't agree with in this article is I

561
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Speaker 5: don't agree with any of this according to mental floss is.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what mental flosses must be some probably

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Speaker 5: like a publication, yeah, name like.

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Speaker 1: Floss is your brain out.

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Speaker 5: Black squirrels are black Eastern black gray squirrels are relatively

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Speaker 5: relatively rare, constituting just one in ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: Oh bullshit, that's not something different. I don't believe any

568
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Speaker 1: of this anymore. I wish you would need not done. No,

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Speaker 1: because they have about that entire report.

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Speaker 5: No, the part of it is this like DNA study

571
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Speaker 5: that they did and they identified this gene.

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Speaker 2: That's like, like it's real like that.

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Speaker 1: You better do a little more work on that. Brodie.

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Speaker 5: I'm just repeating the science, Steve, just repeating the science.

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Speaker 2: I remember I when I was in high school, we

576
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Speaker 2: went up to Salamanca, New York. That was New York's

577
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Speaker 2: right there on the border I think Turkey Young and

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Speaker 2: every squirrel we saw it there was black.

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Speaker 1: Right right in ten thousand.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's that's the that's the problem with science,

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Speaker 4: the inconvenience of science. If they're actually if they're not

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Speaker 4: looking for the visible trade, they're trying to find the

583
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Speaker 4: genetic trade. It's not gonna necessarily jive with what you have.

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Speaker 4: I was just I had learned a bunch about stone

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Speaker 4: sheep and fan and sheep. What a bunch of bullshit

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Speaker 4: that is?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: They're like, well, how dark is the sheep?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: It's like trying to find a black hair on a

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Speaker 4: white sheep and then calling it a fan in sheep.

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Speaker 4: I got you, I mean, boy, glad we got that

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Speaker 4: taken care of science team.

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Speaker 3: No, I got you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cal's gonna talk about something that I only found out

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Speaker 1: about yesterday. But first I want to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: people out there actually listened, like, actually listened in the audience.

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Speaker 1: Raise your hand. No, in this room, raise your hand

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Speaker 1: if you actually listened to Tucker Carlson's Vladimir Putin interview. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't, you're not allowed to comment on anything.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the whole thing to the bitter end.

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Speaker 2: Me too.

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Speaker 1: The way it's been reported on in the news is

607
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Speaker 1: so insanely inaccurate. Yes, but one thing Putin left off

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Speaker 1: is this in Ukraine, there's this article that half a

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Speaker 1: finger to sent us these archaeologists working in Ukraine. There

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Speaker 1: was this nomadic group called the Scythians. Nomad they were

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Speaker 1: like nomadic hunter gathers, and there's reference like their enemies

612
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Speaker 1: would reference it, like watch out for the Scythians. They

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Speaker 1: will make stuff out of your skin. And these archaeologists

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Speaker 1: were doing. They had they recovered in these different sites

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Speaker 1: Scythian leather and it's a lot of like stuff you'd

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Speaker 1: expect game animals and whatnot. They found a number of

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Speaker 1: quivers made from human hide.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would take their enemy make a quiver out

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Speaker 1: of human hide. I'd take that leg skin, make a

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00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: big long pouch, make a circle cut right right at

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Speaker 1: the groin tubes, circle cut right below the knee, take

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Speaker 1: that bugger off. Just one run seam down the side,

625
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Speaker 1: one seaming along the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Look cool auction.

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Speaker 1: The Scythians were not people you'd want to mess with. Man,

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Speaker 1: how long ago was these guys running around? They were

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Speaker 1: finding this stuff in their burials south of Ukraine the Sidons.

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Speaker 5: Nine hundred BC to two hundred BC.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a while back, Kay cal Uh, explain explain

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Speaker 1: the explain this deal with with with grazing, with.

633
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Speaker 4: With oh wyoming right now, Yeah, with.

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Speaker 1: With hunters needing to be on the hook for the

635
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Speaker 1: fact that elkie grass or like. Explain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so most Western states have some sort of a

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Speaker 4: system to reimburse landowners for agricultural losses related to wildlife

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Speaker 4: like crop damage, crop damage, yep, exactly. So there's there's

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Speaker 4: two new things that came out of HB sixty in Wyoming,

640
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Speaker 4: which is currently still in the House right now, so

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: it's gone through committee, it's it's in the House. Next

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: step would be the Senate. Those two new things are

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00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 4: adding pastururage, the loss of grass either on private land

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Speaker 4: or state land, state grazing leases into the list of

645
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Speaker 4: crop damage into the list of agricultural damage that can

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Speaker 4: be reimbursed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, at what point tell me when I can go

648
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Speaker 1: like that is so stupid.

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Speaker 4: And then the other part of this that is new

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Speaker 4: would be raising the maximum allowable reimbursement from one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of fair market value to one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: percent of fair market value. And the reason being that

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Speaker 4: when you if you totally destroy a pasture, it's not

654
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Speaker 4: going to magically come all the way back next year.

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Speaker 4: So it's got more repercussions than just the year that

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00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: it's been assessed. The this is really coming out of

657
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: the southeast Colorado where Wyoming, right, Oh, sorry, yes, Wyoming,

658
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: but it's where all the Colorado people hunt. So Southeast

659
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: Wyoming lots of private land, but it's a public wildlife, right,

660
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: it's it's elk and limited access to these elk. And

661
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: this is yeah, a big move saying that we want

662
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: the Wyoming Game and Fish to immediately start knocking down

663
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: these herds. So which Wyoming Game and Fish has been

664
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: on top of this situation? They're two years into you know,

665
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: like an emergency five year management plan.

666
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: When you say knocked down the herd, do you mean

667
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: like shop laders coming in? What do you mean like

668
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 5: that damage hunts where they.

669
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't allow Nobody likes to talk about sharpshooters. Right,

670
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 4: it's got a negative public perception. But they've had they've killed, Yeah,

671
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: they've they've had two coals I think that have not

672
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: killed like one hundred and forty eight cows that you

673
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: know are are paid people who are going out there

674
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: to eliminate elk, so non non hunters.

675
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: And across the road, some guy's paying three thousand dollars

676
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: for a cole elcot Yeah.

677
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so the in most western state it's like

678
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: the way to you can only apply for cash from

679
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: damaged agriculture if you're allowing some sort of access. In Wyoming,

680
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 4: it's defined as reasonable hunting access. But what is reasonable? Right?

681
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: And I think when your quotes that I really enjoy

682
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 4: is like, what is an objective herd size? Like, it's

683
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: not my objective as an elk hunter, but these herds

684
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: are over objective by the elk management play on in Wyoming. Sure,

685
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: which kind of you know is a ball that gets

686
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: baddened back and forth between all these interest groups, primarily

687
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: like the Wyoming Stock Growers Association would be one of

688
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: the main main players here.

689
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a hunter, I would generally be very

690
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: suspicious when someone tells you that something's over objective, as

691
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: though you're supposed to accept that as your reality or

692
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: you're supposed to accept that as your objective.

693
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is also a place where, like wolves

694
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: aren't knocking them down, hunters have very little access.

695
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Correct, So I'll tell you one way to get rid

696
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: of one way to scatter smelt with hunting after.

697
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: Them, right, That's what I'm saying.

698
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: They learned that very Yeah, they learned that very quickly, dude.

699
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm like, I'm like, on everything, I'm

700
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: a slippery slope guy, and I just don't like this

701
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: is going like, Okay, I get it on crops, I've

702
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: never even questioned it on crop damage, and I've never

703
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: questioned it on depredation of livestock yep. Okay. In fact,

704
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: when I'm buying my licenses in my home state, I

705
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: always click the box to add like to round up

706
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: and add money to depredation, to the to the depredation pool.

707
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: But as a slippery slope guy, to all of a

708
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: sudden be that that wildlife eating grain grass that's not

709
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: been planted like you know in real and when you're

710
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: buying and selling houses there's like pre existing condition stuff.

711
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, I'm sorry, that's just a pre existing condition.

712
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: The Good Lord's creatures are out there eating grass.

713
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

714
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Like to have it be that, to have it be

715
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: that you can now that you would be that you're

716
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: going to have a state grazing lease and then come

717
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: back to the state and be like, oh, by the way,

718
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: your deer keep eating the grass, so pay me some

719
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: money and come on.

720
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 4: There's a parallel story going on in Wyoming right now too,

721
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: so that ties into what you just said perfectly right.

722
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: There's a there's an isolated mountain range that Wild Cheap Foundation,

723
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: a bunch of other folks want to reintroduce bighorn sheep

724
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: to this isolated mountain range. And there's ranchers out there

725
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: that are saying, hey, we don't want you to do

726
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: this because we know that the reintroduction of wild sheep

727
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: will affect our grazing leases if we were to want

728
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: to put out domestic sheep out there. This is like

729
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 4: a known thing, right, So like National Wildlife Federation, Wild

730
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: Cheap will go in and either at fair market value

731
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: exchange domestic sheep for cattle and write out in agreement

732
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: that when they do that exchange, you can never run

733
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: sheep out here again in order to prevent disease transmission

734
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: from domestic sheep to wild sheep. And I bring this

735
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: up as a good example because here's a situation isolated

736
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: mountain range. For the lives of these livestock producers, there's

737
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: never been domestic or wild sheep there. The introduction of

738
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: those Wild Cheap will change how they have to operate

739
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: their operations right. And this other example though, is there's

740
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: been elk there for a really long time. Generations of people,

741
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: those elk have grown, those operations have been around those

742
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 4: those elk essentially forever. It's not the same as somebody

743
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: trying to now force something upon everyone and they have

744
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: to change their whole economic exactly system around that introduction.

745
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: A constant.

746
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: It's been a constant.

747
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: And then what's funny too is if you go and

748
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: look like the other pausing part about it is if

749
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: you want to scroll through real estate listenings, real estate

750
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: listenings are mighty quick to celebrate the elk.

751
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, in the health outpha, there'll be a picture

752
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: of the herd in the And.

753
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: So this hunter's paradise.

754
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 4: To make this agricultural claim that, oh, we hate these elk,

755
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: we purchase this property specifically to raise cattle, you'd have

756
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: to say, like, well, why did you choose to do

757
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: it in an area where elk herds are eleven thousand

758
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: animals over objective? That'd be pretty tough. Did your operation

759
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: plan when you went to the bank include a shipload

760
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: of high fence to keep these animals out right? It's

761
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 4: like Noah is the answer. But the nuts and bolts

762
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: of this thing and why everybody should be concerned even

763
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: if you're not an elk hunter or a rancher in

764
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: this area that's trying to graze cattle or grow any

765
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: sort of cash crop. The way Wyoming is built is

766
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: this fund doesn't get tapped out, meaning that the depredation

767
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: fund once the money's out of it. And right now,

768
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: as I understand, if there's only one funding mechanism for

769
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: that depredation fund, which of course comes out of resident

770
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: and non resident license fees, like, so there's money that

771
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: is earmarked from those purchases that goes into the depredation fund.

772
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: Once that's tapped out, it can eat into the next

773
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: operational budget and the next.

774
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: Operational budget within fishing game.

775
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 4: Within fishing game. So this brand new ask to fund

776
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: this other huge part of agriculture, grazing and the increased

777
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: fees are going to affect people who like to fish

778
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 4: in the state, people who like to go to state

779
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: recreation areas, people who like to you know, enjoy like

780
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 4: the public access on private ground programs that are all

781
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: administered by Wyoming Fishing Game. So is it right for

782
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: this like fight against elk in this specific area to

783
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: inhibit the ability for the state to manage all other

784
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: aspects of fishing games.

785
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: There's a interesting I think maybe it's an irony. It

786
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: feels like an irony, and it be like, hey, hunters

787
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: and anglers, you know those elk that no one will

788
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: let you go get at, Well, I need you to

789
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: pay for what they're doing. Is that'll want you going

790
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: in there and chasing them off and hunting them.

791
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

792
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the reasonable access thing, right, it's like, well

793
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: how much. I haven't seen a scale of how they

794
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: pay this out. It's like, oh, if you're open to

795
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: the public in like a type one block management system

796
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: that we have here in Montana, then you're eligible for

797
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: this amount of damage cash.

798
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Got it.

799
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that. I haven't seen the scale of

800
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: how they're going to determine all these mixed grass ecosystems

801
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 4: for this fifteen percent. So if there's fifteen percent damage,

802
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: you get one hundred and fifty percent of fair market

803
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: value of the of the past year. Like how they're

804
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: gonna determine that, you know, across the board, there's just

805
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of question marks, but it's

806
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: it's uh, I was talking to Hal Herring today and

807
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: it was pretty funny. He goes, you know what seems

808
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: to me and Wyoming ever since the end of the

809
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: Johnson County War, they've been trying to figure out how

810
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: to get state money back to private landowners.

811
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: An editored, a long time editored Outdoor Life once said

812
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: to me privately, I asked him if his farm is

813
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: enrolled in black Man. This is a hot tip for

814
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: people that got elk problems. I asked him if his

815
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: ranch was in Low enrolled in black management, and he said, no,

816
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: black management up here is a biological desert. Little hot tip.

817
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: You got the elk problem?

818
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Well, oh yeah, well yeah, you'd be running some some

819
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: elk around and yeah, unfortunately I don't think. Well, just yeah,

820
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: block Management's pretty pretty awesome program.

821
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not hacking it. I'm telling you quoting someone.

822
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: Right, you want to move some animals off your property.

823
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: Is there something like this that's happening in other states

824
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: like Montana? Would Texans ever have this?

825
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: Jesse Texans got way ahead of it. They made elk,

826
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 4: which is a native species, a non native species.

827
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: Is becoming honorary natives. They made elk an honorary non native.

828
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: They stripped them of their native status.

829
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: There's a real surgeon elk counting out West, but it's

830
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: all it's all private. Yeah.

831
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted like Texans, God.

832
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: Bless them, I mean West Texas.

833
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: Texans wanted to be like they want to be, like,

834
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: hey man, I want to be able to raise out

835
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: and do whatever I want to them, but I can't

836
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: because it's like native wildlife and everything. So can you

837
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: just make them that? They're like, can we just say

838
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 1: they're not native wildlife so we can do whatever we want?

839
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: And they're like sure, Yeah.

840
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: To put a bow on the HB sixty thing in Wyoming,

841
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: I think the best thing right because I am simple,

842
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 4: very sympathetic to some of these agricultural wines and I

843
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 4: want like the family ranch to stick around.

844
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely is just.

845
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: Like table this thing. It is not well thought out,

846
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: it's not well structured. The state mechanism for funding this

847
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 4: is way behind the ability for this thing to function

848
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: in everyone's best interest.

849
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: Here's why. Okay, you're right, I'm pro farm, I'm pro ranch.

850
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm a cow's nott con those kind of guy. From

851
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: a conservation perspective.

852
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: I'd vote for you right now. If that was your stump,

853
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: go ahead.

854
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm a cow's not condo's guy. But I said I'm

855
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: a slippery slope guy too. If if publicly owned if

856
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: like if publicly owned wildlife, if if people that own

857
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: land need to be compensated for publicly owned wildlife eating

858
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: natural resources and organisms that have been there for thousands

859
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: of years. It's like, do you say, hey, uh something,

860
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: squirrels are something ate a lot of my acorns. I

861
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: need some money or get these squirrels out of here.

862
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: It's just like it's like where do how does this go?

863
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

864
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: Well, okay, you remember a lot of time ago, or

865
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: like you.

866
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Hear like a trout fisherman and you own a big

867
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: stretch of river. You know what, who's mink? Are these

868
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: the states? I need some money?

869
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Well?

870
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: Slip side of it too, is like there's plenty of

871
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: cows eating the grass that elk eat on public land,

872
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 5: and the elks should bill them. Well, I mean they're

873
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 5: paying for a lease, but is it a fair compensation

874
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: for the elk food that the cows are eating?

875
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: You know?

876
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: That's that's I'm saying. It's just it's so weird.

877
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 4: Do you remember your example of like if you wanted

878
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: to start a perscudo operation in Montana and he decided

879
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 4: like the Rocky Mountain slope would be the best place

880
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: to hang a bunch of preshudo out in the open air.

881
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

882
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: With the state then come in and compensate you for

883
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: grizzly bears.

884
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: We haven't even dipped into hog damage, like, I mean

885
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: two billion dollars a year in Texas and hog damage agriculturally.

886
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think we have the budget

887
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: to compensate for that.

888
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: No, no, but I think that they would be able

889
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: to hopefully they'd be able to say that's not our

890
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: animals fishing game. Yeah, and elk they'd be like, no,

891
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: they've got taken away from you, all right, turkeys?

892
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: Turkeys?

893
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

894
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: Man?

895
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: How long? Uh? How long you've been working on the book?

896
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about it for quite some time because

897
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: I know how long books take.

898
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well that's interesting because we we wrapped

899
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: this less than a year ago. So uh it it

900
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: actually start to finish? Was pretty quick, was it? Yeah?

901
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 6: No.

902
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: I set out I wanted to do another book post

903
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: hog Book, and you know, I thought, first off of

904
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: just replicate that with something that I was really interested in,

905
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 3: that being turkeys.

906
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, tell me why you didn't do the deer book.

907
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: A lot of information out there about Uh well, first

908
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: it's a shitty deer hunter.

909
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Uh, but deer cleaner.

910
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I well, thank you. You've you've criticized me lightly

911
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: on my dear cleaning. I'll leave the Remember I leave that.

912
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: You the hide on the Achilles tendon.

913
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like the way it looks.

914
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: I know. It's an aesthetic argument we had one day.

915
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: No, you don't cut the tendon, do you No, that

916
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: makes me want to kill people.

917
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: No. No, the reason I leave the anyway, I leave

918
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: the hot on there, so I don't cut the tendon

919
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: like it.

920
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: That's like people when you're cleaning squirrels of people when

921
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: they leave that little ring of hair around the wrists

922
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: and stuff. I hate that. Or on rabbits, you know

923
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: that little growth that has the long hairs that little mole.

924
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: Squirrels have it too, when you're cleaning squirrels in the sink.

925
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: After you clean rabbits or squirrels and someone leaves that

926
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: little hairy mole, I hate that anyhow. Turkeys, so you're

927
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: not a good dear cleaner.

928
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: I am a clean I'm a very I mean, I'm

929
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: very yeah, you know, I'm fast. I think I'm very thorough.

930
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: I love turkey hunting and it's something I grew to love,

931
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: but it's something that I'm not I would I would

932
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: say I'm very, very far from it expert. I spent

933
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: start to finished about eleven years on The Hogbook, and

934
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: then we completed this and yeah, I mean there's some

935
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: photos in there that were that were taken. Yeah, but

936
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: did you know, Okay, I knew at the time we

937
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: were taking those that my next project would be able.

938
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: So for so for eleven years, you're like, somethday, I'm

939
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna do a book on hogs.

940
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: In that okay, Yeah, And then kind of rapidly decided

941
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: that that I wanted to focus on turkeys and was like,

942
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just going to kind of use the

943
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: The Hogbook as a template, and then really quickly realized

944
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons, most of it is that

945
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: there's a lot of really good literature out there, I mean,

946
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: just good writing about turkey obviously. I mean I can't

947
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: really name a lot of uh books about fair hogs.

948
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean no, there's no like, there's no like Tom

949
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: Kelly or Jack O'Connor of hogs hemingwaight at home them right.

950
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: And so then that became apparent to me that it's like,

951
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: it's don't don't try to do that. And so the

952
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: course I decided to take instead is more of a

953
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: journal and just document start to finish in one season,

954
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: what you know, just go on four hunts, try to

955
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: get the most geographically different spots lined up. Which was

956
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: great for me too because I'm not much of a

957
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: traveling hunter. I spend almost all my time in Texas,

958
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: and then in between I was just going to experiment

959
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: and see what's stuck as far as cooking, and just

960
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: cooked all these different ways. And so it's not a

961
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 3: definitive book on hunting turkeys. It's not a definitive cookbook

962
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: on turkeys. It's just new ideas, new concepts and things

963
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: that I came up with. I mean, there's some old classics.

964
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: You know, there's fried turkey in there. You know, it's

965
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: like the flagship recipe, but it's really just a slice

966
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: of one season.

967
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: When you say fried turkey, what do you mean?

968
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: Slices of breast? Brian and uh, not like a deep

969
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: fried turkey.

970
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: So you're joking around yesterday and I said, man, like,

971
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: it's like four hundred page book. That's a lot of

972
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: pages to tell somebody how to fry a turkey. Jesus Like,

973
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: it's the very first recipe.

974
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: On purpose, I put that as the very first recipe.

975
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to acknowledge that because I think a lot

976
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: of people, you know, that's that's their go too, and

977
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: that's what they enjoy the most. And I always want

978
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: to honor that and make people feel comfortable about the

979
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 3: way they cook.

980
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: You don't want to fry shame people.

981
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: No, No, we've talked about that for years. You know,

982
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: fried fish, you know, objectively the best and so yeah,

983
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: so I kick it off with fried turkey, you know.

984
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's my recipe for fried turkey, which I

985
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: think is is good.

986
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: What makes your fried turkey recipe different than everybody else's

987
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: fried turkey recipe? To everybody else? But what differentiates how

988
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: do you like, let me just put it this way,

989
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: that's aggressive. How do you think fried turkey?

990
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: I like to I like to brin it. Okay, I

991
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: think that's pretty common. Uh So there's a brine, Uh,

992
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: there's there's a couple of secrets in the uh, in

993
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: the dredge and the flour that you're gonna dust it

994
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: in afterwards.

995
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: You know, what the hell out of him?

996
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: You know, you should have asked him.

997
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: You should have said, wet, dryer, dry Brian. That's his

998
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: pet peete, is it.

999
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: I just think it's a youth business. Yeah, I mean

1000
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: a dry Brian is a is a rub. We've established that.

1001
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: Loaded.

1002
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is a wet Brian meaning Brian otherwise

1003
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: known as Brian Brian. Yeah, and then it's dredged in flour,

1004
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 3: and I'm I don't want to give it away. You know,

1005
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: there's a couple of things in there that Okay.

1006
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: Well don't you damn but you can still I'll give

1007
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: it away. Well, no, you don't need to like get

1008
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: into like the little measurements and stuff.

1009
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: Cell receipts. Yeah, that's a that is a that's a

1010
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: secret taught to me about the colonel, not not Tom Kelly, colonel. Yeah. Yeah,

1011
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: that's a that's a key coming in there.

1012
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: You know, when we were on Live Tour, we had

1013
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: this bus driver named John. I'm trying to hope we

1014
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: get lined up for our next live tour. John the

1015
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: bus driver, and like, I didn't really think about it,

1016
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: but he looks like Colonel Sanders. Oh, and he's saying.

1017
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: One time he comes down his bus and someone's just like,

1018
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, like there's all kinds of on a tour

1019
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: for musicians. There's always people coming and going all the time.

1020
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: One times he comes down to the bus and there's

1021
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: someone laying there he doesn't recognize, sleeping, and they wake

1022
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: up and they go, oh, I love the chicken. And

1023
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: he said, those kids, if what the hell kind of

1024
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: They leave and he's like they've bothered him for days.

1025
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: The event, she told his wife, like the hell does

1026
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: that even mean? She goes, you look like Colonel Sanders.

1027
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna help you out on not feeling

1028
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 4: like you're giving away the book giving people reasons not

1029
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: to buy flipping through this thing. It's a very similar

1030
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: to like the Outdoor Cookbook that we're coming out with.

1031
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: Like the worst worst part about like the marketing of

1032
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: this is like it's gonna live in just a cookbook

1033
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: category mm hmmm. Whereas like you could give this book

1034
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: to anybody and there's a lot of really good reading

1035
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 4: in there. There's a lot of good photography. There's a

1036
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: lot of reasons to enjoy this.

1037
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: Thing, almost like a coffee table book.

1038
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, before you would ever get to cooking anything.

1039
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eve, you new all damn recipes just to look at.

1040
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1041
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: But okay, because let me tell you something, no one's

1042
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna not buy your books. You told you how you

1043
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: like to fry turkeys. I know you like to brind it.

1044
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: I do, so you cut it up or Brian, the

1045
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: whole big chunks.

1046
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: I cut it up into strips. I think you know

1047
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: that that there's a certain thickness you know about, you know,

1048
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: like fingers kids ordering restaurants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a

1049
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: that's a good size. I like to clean the silver

1050
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: out of the breast. I'm gonna think you get a

1051
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: little bit less chewing. It's pretty easy to clean out.

1052
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: And then yeah, Brian, that maybe going a little acidic,

1053
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: something like a buttermilk yogurt whatever you got. It also

1054
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: helps the dredge stick. And then you dredge it in flour,

1055
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of celery seeds and some other things, pepper.

1056
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: You like the fryer at three fifty.

1057
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: Hot, and then you know, I'm always I like to

1058
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: fry and beef fat a lot, sure, man, beef fat

1059
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: or lard, but definitely the preference would be beef fat.

1060
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: If you could only fry at one temperature for the

1061
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: rest of your life fifty see, man, I was brought

1062
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: up with three seventy five.

1063
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 6: Man, what does that difference?

1064
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, my old man make you

1065
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: go to the garage where he kept his fryer and

1066
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: you he'd make you turn it on, but you had

1067
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: to stay there till the light blinked out and then

1068
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: go down and notify it.

1069
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: So if he told you the goal turn the fry on,

1071
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: You're like, there's eighteen minutes of my life, you know,

1072
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: you get to turn it on and then click it's on.

1073
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: He got me. I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna recant.

1074
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna go back to that because I think

1075
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: about potatoes and things like that, And you're right, it's

1076
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: it's probably it's a it's three seventy five.

1077
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: What do you like to do a catfish?

1078
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: At? Uh?

1079
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: You do?

1080
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, well, I like catfish to be very

1081
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: thinly sliced fine corn meal.

1082
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: We've stopped to cook to cook the mud out of it.

1083
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: Well, we bleed our catfish and bleed them and throw

1084
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: them into an ice bath, and uh, and that that

1085
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: makes worlds and worlds of difference. So immediately we mostly

1086
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: trotline in these days, pull them off, cut the gills,

1087
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: wring their tail, throw them a in a in a

1088
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: cooler full of ice and water. They're dead in a

1089
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: couple of minutes and the bloodline disappears. And then we

1090
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: fill them and then slice them on the bias against

1091
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: the grain and fry that. And that is phenomenal.

1092
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: My Alaska mentor he used to when he's bleeding hell,

1093
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: but he'd always cut their tail. And we used to

1094
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: tease them like he's got like vapor lock or something

1095
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: like there's like a vacuum in there that you like relieve.

1096
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: See when you cut in the tail. I never understood

1097
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: nothing comes out of there.

1098
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: Oh I've seen I've seen like blood come out of

1099
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: a catfish tail.

1100
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: Oh right, what do you think is like like it's

1101
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: like it's like putting your finger over the end of

1102
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: a straw. Unless you cut the tail that it can

1103
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: finally like fall out, you know. Uh, when you're frying

1104
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: like that turkey or whatever, let's say, turkey, catfish, anything.

1105
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,479
Speaker 1: Are you do? You have you gotten where you watch

1106
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: the bubbles?

1107
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: Like?

1108
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: The bubbles mean a lot to me?

1109
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely as much noise you mean.

1110
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: No like picture you put it in and you think

1111
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: for a minute, how your fryer is going to overflow?

1112
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1113
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Now if you left it in there an hour and

1114
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: come back, there ain't no bubbles coming out there. That's

1115
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: moisture coming out.

1116
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it slowly.

1117
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: So how do you like what in your book? For instance,

1118
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: when you're saying how do you tell folks? Do you

1119
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: tell them let it fry for blank minutes? Or do

1120
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: you tell them let them fry till the bubbles seem

1121
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: to have slowed down?

1122
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: I don't give a bubble reference in the book. It's

1123
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: more of a time reference. And if you cut it

1124
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: to a certain size and then you give a frying temperature,

1125
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: it's it's easier to you know, assign a time to that.

1126
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: But also it's gonna start to float, you know, you

1127
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Fully floating is probably gonna be

1128
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: fairly dry, yep, but you know, start to like float

1129
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: and kind of swim around, and yeah, small bubbles, it's

1130
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: just like when you're when you're rendering fats. Yeah, you look.

1131
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: I always tell people it should look like a like

1132
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: a light beer. You know, it should be like a

1133
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: pale straw color with tiny bubbles. And that's when you

1134
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: know you got all the moisture cooked out. You don't

1135
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: have those big uh you know, the moisture coming out

1136
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: in those big, like kind of bulbous bubbles. Instead, you've

1137
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: got those little pin point bubbles, and you got that

1138
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: pale straw color. And that's when you know you've got

1139
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: it totally rendered.

1140
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. You put that celery seed on there, uh, sprinkled on,

1141
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: and you don't mix it. You don't mix it into

1142
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: your cormeal.

1143
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: Dude, good for turkeys, that's and it goes into flour,

1144
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: not cormeal. Yeah, no, all purpose.

1145
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: You don't put it on the meat. You put it

1146
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: in the flower.

1147
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: In the flower. Yeah. So black pepper celery goes on there, fried,

1148
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, and then you maybe your gravy, your mashed potatoes,

1149
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: your greens, you know, hot sauce.

1150
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: Uh what what there? How do you tell people in

1151
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: there how to cook a whole turkey?

1152
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, it's can of worms right there. So I

1153
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: tell people not to And that's my opinion.

1154
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: You don't throw them with single bone. You don't throw

1155
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: them one because there's certain let me tell you something.

1156
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: You can't stop people from want and to try it,

1157
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 1: So why not help them out?

1158
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: Right? That's right away.

1159
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: You talk about how to power the turkey out?

1160
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean there's a there's a whole section

1161
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: in there. How to piece a breast out into three

1162
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: three distinct parts, you know, an upper low bottom lobe

1163
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: and then the tenderloin, and all of those I think

1164
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: have really distinct uses too. You can and each one

1165
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 3: feed you know, two to four people, and so they

1166
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: and they have very specific uses.

1167
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 7: You can also cook a breast whole. My opinion, you

1168
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 7: need to. It's too late to edit that boat. Yeah,

1169
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 7: you're into treacherous territory using netword lobe.

1170
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: Why is that?

1171
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Well, because we went into this deep one time. If

1172
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: you get into the poultry business, a breast, there's.

1173
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: Two, two lobes, right right.

1174
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: A lobe. If you tell a poultry man a chicken breast,

1175
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: that poultry man is he's got two lobes, and he

1176
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: tells someone a human breast, they don't think there's two.

1177
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: They think of one, if you tell them a chicken

1178
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: breast that's comprised of two lobes. So with you introducing

1179
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: upper lobe and lower lobe, you're gonna get yourself in

1180
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: trouble with poultry men.

1181
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: A risk I can take, I think, Yeah, yeah, I agree.

1182
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna face him down.

1183
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, yeah me beau Pilgrim coming after my ass. Fine, whatever,

1184
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: Back to the whole turkey. I mean it really, it

1185
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: really comes down to what I wanted to put in

1186
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: here as far as recipes, and I I address that

1187
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: and and I and I've seen your recipe for a

1188
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: whole turkey. And I have a dear friend who swears

1189
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: by cooking a whole turkey. And he's so funny because

1190
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: he always makes this motion. He's like, no, you got

1191
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: to put the stuffing in hot. And then it's like

1192
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: he's and he makes this insertion movement. People just listening. Yes,

1193
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 3: it's just like into the cavity, which I hope is

1194
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: the right term of the bird. He's like, no, you

1195
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: got to put the stuffing in hot. And I'm and

1196
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, my my job, I think, is to tell

1197
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: people how to achieve the best results in the easiest way.

1198
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: And I think that that you're you're you're playing with

1199
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: fire a bit and trying to cook turkey's hole.

1200
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: But you can't stop people from wanting to cook a hole.

1201
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't tell them not to. I give them alternatives

1202
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: I have. There's there's a chapter in here on breast,

1203
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: there's a chapter on next wings, o fal and skin,

1204
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: there's a chapter on leg quarters, and there's a chapter

1205
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: called celebrations. So the celebrations addresses that issue. So what

1206
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: it is is, I'm not trying to stop people from

1207
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: cooking the whole bird, because what they want to do

1208
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: is they want to celebrate that whole bird. They want

1209
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: to I mean, cooking a whole turkey, you're serving a

1210
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: bunch of people.

1211
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: But it's it's like one of the worst ways to

1212
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 5: introduce someone who's never eaten wild turkey to wild turkey

1213
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 5: like this.

1214
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: Let's say you have a tea. Let's you have a

1215
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: teenager and you're like, Chastity's the best, Chassi is the best.

1216
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, but let's what if, though I don't even

1217
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about it, Chastity is the best, Chastity

1218
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: is safest. Yeah, but what no Chassey.

1219
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm not telling.

1220
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: The wants.

1221
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 3: That is wonderful. This is not the only cookbook for

1222
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: turkeys right here.

1223
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: It is not well I think I think people get

1224
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: used to cooking domestic turkeys hole, yeah, and they want

1225
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: to go and do it to a wild turkey.

1226
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: It's a completely different beasts.

1227
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: Completely different. I present them options for cooking a whole bird,

1228
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: parted out or in more impressive ways, you know, like

1229
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 3: a turkey, this turkey Wellington where you like you have

1230
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: the tender loin, the liver and the shredded leg meat

1231
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: in cased in five pastry and then or or you

1232
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: make a Sunday where you're you uh, you take the

1233
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: legs and you slow cook them, and then you you

1234
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: take the breast and you make brajole out of those.

1235
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 3: You roll them with some parme left. It's a it's

1236
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: a rolled, it's a it's easierly a pounded out piece

1237
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: of meat that's rolled. What was the bole?

1238
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think it's okay, yeah, I.

1239
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: Am not not to be not brezila b R A

1240
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: C I O l em with you. Uh. And then

1241
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 3: it's usually stuff with parsley, parmesan, garlic, things like that

1242
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: and so, and then you can take some slices off

1243
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 3: the breast and do that. So at this point, you

1244
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: can take a wing, you can take a leg, you

1245
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: can take a little bit of the breast, and you

1246
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: can cook it, and you can present it in this,

1247
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: you know, impressive way, and you can be like, hey,

1248
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: look I cooked the whole bird. But it's reducing their risk.

1249
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 3: Uh Thanksgiving screw well, yeah, screwing over cooking the breast,

1250
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 3: under cooking the legs.

1251
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: I want to clarify a point here. I don't do it.

1252
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: I used to be very I used to want to

1253
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,480
Speaker 1: do it all the time, but not only that. At Thanksgiving,

1254
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't make turkey. Yeah you know. I mean maybe

1255
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: i'd have a turkey dish, but I just make whatever

1256
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: I think it's the best thing in my freezer. Yeah,

1257
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: which I think is actually more in keeping with oh

1258
01:08:59,280 --> 01:08:59,879
Speaker 1: that tradition.

1259
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1260
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: They were like you know the top of this hundred

1261
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: times historians don't even think they were eating turkey.

1262
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about that.

1263
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: So like I get it. I don't I know anymore

1264
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: now not to do it, but I respect the process.

1265
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, not dogging on you.

1266
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: But I'm not no, no, no, I'm not gonna hold

1267
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: turkey shame anybody. But like I said, there's there's other

1268
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: ways to go about it. And it's the same thing

1269
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: with plucking and skinning. You know. It's like I know

1270
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people want to skin their bird. They've

1271
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: always skinned a bird. They don't want to take the

1272
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: time to pluck a bird. And so I present both

1273
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: methods and then go over what are the benefits in

1274
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: the in the in the drawbacks from doing either.

1275
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: Walk walk me through what you say in there.

1276
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if you're gonna if you're gonna take the

1277
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: breasts and pound them out into cutlets pyards, which is

1278
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: like a basically a very thinly sliced uh slice of

1279
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: breast that you grill very quickly. It's wonderful like and

1280
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: there's and there's some I think some very good methods

1281
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 3: for grilling turkey thin sliced turkey breasts in there, real

1282
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: trick to it. And and or breaded and fried turkey

1283
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: breast not not like fried turkey strips, but like a

1284
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 3: thin cutlet less schnitzel. Yep, if you're gonna do that,

1285
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna maybe just slow cooking shred your legs.

1286
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: Then I think that there is a case to be

1287
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: made for skin in your bird. You know, expedients heat

1288
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: things like that.

1289
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're making schnittle, that skin is not gonna.

1290
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. And if that's the way

1291
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: you've always done it. Yeah, And so I in the

1292
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: in the first chapter when we go over you know,

1293
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: you got a dead bird on the ground. Are you

1294
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 3: skinning it? Are you plucking it? And then we actually

1295
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: came up with a Venn diagram of everybody that I

1296
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: hunted with, and we tried to we tried to integrate

1297
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,839
Speaker 3: whether they had beards, because there was almost a connection

1298
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: there if they if they always skinned their turkeys and

1299
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 3: always pluck their turkeys, and if they had a beard.

1300
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 3: If that makes any sense, cow walking out of the

1301
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 3: woods with a plucked turkey, you have to get them,

1302
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: get them done right away.

1303
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, if for people who are intimidated plucking a bird

1304
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: of any kind, turkey is the easiest bird to pluck

1305
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: by far and away. I can pluck a turkey twice

1306
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: as fast as a mallard if.

1307
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: You got a few of them to pluck. To do

1308
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: you get do you get into this in your book?

1309
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: If you got a few of them to pluck, get

1310
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: that jug of hot water.

1311
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 3: Going, oh scalding.

1312
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so nice. Man, they look so good.

1313
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 6: Does that affect the skin?

1314
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: Does it just ever so slightly puckers the skin up,

1315
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: like tightens the skin up. But it has no It's

1316
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: like I would never do it. For one, because by

1317
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: the time you know everything, just by the time you

1318
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: heat all the damn water up, you could have plucked turkey.

1319
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: But if you have like a couple of guys and

1320
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: you get it, you get a few birds and you

1321
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: get that jug of water going. One, clean up is

1322
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: nice because a wet feather they don't blow anywhere. All

1323
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: those feathers are going in the trash. And two it's

1324
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 1: just they just come out beautiful, beautiful.

1325
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you this is around the topic of skin.

1326
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 4: You and I were talking like around fourth of July.

1327
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 4: I was making turkey wings, which is a thing I

1328
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 4: experiment with every other year.

1329
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: Probably where you're at right now on.

1330
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 4: It still back to the drawing board. I'm like making

1331
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 4: like because they're a giant, giant wing. They're super fun

1332
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 4: at outdoor barbecues and stuff to see people chewing on

1333
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 4: them and kids think they're super awesome and everything.

1334
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: But the well, yeah I had some, Yeah, I remember, Yeah.

1335
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: It's the the skin. So that's my question is like,

1336
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 4: did you did you nail turkey skin, wild turkey skin on.

1337
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: The wings or just by itself?

1338
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 4: Just by itself, like being able to eat wild turkey

1339
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 4: skin in an enjoyable way.

1340
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: I got one recipe in there for just taking it

1341
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 3: cutting into strips, and there's a there's a Spanish disc

1342
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: called Papa Spravas and it's basically French fries and served

1343
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: with a chili sauce and some mayonnaise and then it's

1344
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: sprinkled in there with fried turkey skin and then coarse

1345
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 3: salt giving that skin up. Uh, the slicing it real

1346
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: thin into little strips and.

1347
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: Little pieces don't have salmon skin, yes, yes, yes.

1348
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: No, I mean it got a little chewy for sure,

1349
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, but I kind of enjoyed it, especially in

1350
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 3: contrast with a you know, a tender potato.

1351
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: What size strip?

1352
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh, let's say like a thick match stick.

1353
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: You know. The chef Jack Peppin.

1354
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 3: Well, here's a here's a funny story. So when you

1355
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: go to Connecticut for the last hunt in this book, okay,

1356
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: and uh, I killed a turkey on the first day.

1357
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1358
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: And the next day, our hosts Dan Miser is a

1359
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: chef up there. Miser he's he's a wonderful human being

1360
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: and they call him the mayor because everybody, I mean,

1361
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: he just you know, he walks in anywhere and they're like, hey,

1362
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 3: he's like he owns a couple of like five restaurants

1363
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 3: up there. Really cool guy. And we're kind of winding

1364
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: down for our season. We're we're done, you know, I've

1365
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: kind of I've gotten a turkey in every one of

1366
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: the spots Georgia, Texas, Oregon, and now Connecticut, and it's

1367
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: time for kind of a wind down celebratory dinner. And

1368
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, some neighbors are coming over and you're cooking.

1369
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm cooking dinner. I'm I'm on deck for cooking dinner

1370
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: that night. And he's like, jacqu'es coming over, and by

1371
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: Jacques he means Jack peppin shock Papan is coming over

1372
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: for dinner, which is horrifying. I cannot begin to tell

1373
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 3: you the amount.

1374
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: Of stress be intimidated by.

1375
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: Uh. I mean, I don't know who, I mean, I

1376
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 3: don't know. There's you could probably think of someone else,

1377
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: but this is the man. This man was Charles de

1378
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: Gaulle's personal chef. This man turned down being JFK's chef.

1379
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: This man's father was in the French Resistance. He co

1380
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: hosted a show with Julia Child for twenty something year.

1381
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: I mean he is, I mean one of the most

1382
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 3: impressive humans.

1383
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: I stole his turkey gallantee.

1384
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cooked inner for him. Uh and it was

1385
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it came out well. He was kind,

1386
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: his his poodle Guston in his lap the whole time.

1387
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 3: Tell me, no, no, no, no, it was it was. I

1388
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 3: just it's not and he.

1389
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: This gallum getting on. It was his gallant first class.

1390
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: She's got two first class seats and one of the

1391
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: first class seats, he's got a dog box buckled into

1392
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: the seat.

1393
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 3: Oh just a case, she's this. This worked, This absolutely worked.

1394
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: He was the kindest, sweetest First.

1395
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 4: What was he doing you said he was?

1396
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: He would feed the little bit.

1397
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: He fed the dog your food. What what there?

1398
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 5: What you expect from a world class French Not like

1399
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 5: he's not gonna be waving a machete around like you.

1400
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: There was a was also some I'm gonna pick it

1401
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: back up again. He fed your food to a dog

1402
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: in his lap? Jack, what happened?

1403
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: This is? This is going in a way different directions

1404
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: than his shd It's it's There was also a little

1405
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: bit of like grilled boar that I brought up and

1406
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: he like a little scrap of that. He's like he

1407
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: gave it to.

1408
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: He's sitting there even with a dog in his lap.

1409
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: It's Jock the ban man.

1410
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: He was like the Dolls personal chef.

1411
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: Do you expect him to have better table manners?

1412
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: This? It worked. I don't care. I was cooking. Nobody

1413
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,440
Speaker 3: cared Jock. I mean it was, it was. It was beautiful,

1414
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: It was wonderful. It was on brand and it was

1415
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: and I did the the wellington for it.

1416
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: Did he have anything to say about your meal?

1417
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh? He was?

1418
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: The dog seems like it. Jesse open shirt did as

1419
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: he laughed. Boy, dog liked it.

1420
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 3: He was. He was very complimentary and kind. And I

1421
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 3: sat there and board wine for them all night and

1422
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: sat right next and we talked about chicken, because you know,

1423
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: he's from Breast in France and they're famous for their chickens,

1424
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: and we we talked about every part of the chicken

1425
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: and killing chickens the best way to kill a chicken.

1426
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: And it was the best way to kill a chicken.

1427
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there was some Oh gosh it was there

1428
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 3: was I.

1429
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: Was deep into the little brain.

1430
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 3: Yep, that was it him. Yeah, well this was a knife.

1431
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: Uh think roof of the mouth if I remember right, Yeah,

1432
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: that would have worked. It was. It was amazing. So yes,

1433
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: so uh an interesting uh way to to loop that

1434
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: back is that you know Jacpa pen actually was that

1435
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 3: the final meal? Uh that present in the book.

1436
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: Why did they bring up Jack?

1437
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 4: I just think it's hilarious how it was just kind

1438
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: of like dropped in your lap, right, like you weren't

1439
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 4: cooking for him or the dog. He just showed up.

1440
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there was. I mean there was a little

1441
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 3: bit of notice, enough enough to just, uh, you know,

1442
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: instigate a lot of anxiety.

1443
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: And why did I bring up Jack Peppin?

1444
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 5: I don't know we're talking about we're talking about turkey skin.

1445
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 5: I want to know if you there's other stuff the one.

1446
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: He's the one that turned me on to cooking salmon skin.

1447
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: But and this this is something I was going to

1448
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: bring up with you earlier. One salmon skin is good

1449
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: when it's fresh coming out of a freezer. Like salmon,

1450
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:21,919
Speaker 1: skin does not like a freezer.

1451
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,919
Speaker 3: It probably rancid fish.

1452
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hates the freezer. But nice fresh salmon. If

1453
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: you ever get if you ever for you listeners out there,

1454
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: if you're fresh salmon, take the skin and cut it

1455
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: into little French fish strips and just do them in

1456
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: olive oil. Damn it's good. Well did you ever gag salmon?

1457
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: It's spend in your freezer six months? It's not good.

1458
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: And I was the was gonna bring up. If you're

1459
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: cooking skanky fish, remember talking with the bubble factor. The

1460
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: skankier the fish is longer, you leave it in a friar.

1461
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: If you look like frying primo good fresh fish, you

1462
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: can leave it in longer. But when you fry it long,

1463
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: your fry in the skank out of it. You know

1464
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about?

1465
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: Do you agree? Yes? I'm sorry, I just got hung

1466
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 3: up on that last sentute.

1467
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 4: Did you ever try to alibit skim?

1468
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1469
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: I did try. Hels is good. Yeah, fresh halbert skim,

1470
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: helbt skin, sea lice, all stuff to it.

1471
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1472
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, you take your late knife like the backside

1473
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: of your flay knife and just scrape that slime off

1474
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 4: of her. And then you try that and put coarse

1475
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: salt on it and then put that on like a

1476
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 4: Caesar salad.

1477
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 5: Holy ship, don't do that with hell that that's been

1478
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 5: the freezing.

1479
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't. Why don't I quit freezing. I

1480
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: don't freeze. I don't get fish anymore, man, because it

1481
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: just it's scammon, it's skin them if I'm gonna freeze, Well,

1482
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: no that's not true. No, you're right. But I eat

1483
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: them when I come home, when I come home from Alaska. Yeah,

1484
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: I eat them and give them away. And I don't like,

1485
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't. You don't want it in there, like in

1486
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: a multitude, salmon's gone, Yeah, salmon in the month two

1487
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: I've given it away or I've eaten it.

1488
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 3: Yep.

1489
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: I just found a couple of flays that I just

1490
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: through freezer mismanagement. I smoked them. Yeah, I smoked him

1491
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: skin on, smoked him skin on. But cal you're thinking

1492
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: about scraping. You look at a halbit. It looks so

1493
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: beautiful and shining and everything, and you run the back

1494
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: of your over and it comes off like.

1495
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 5: The nastiest like oil, like black slime.

1496
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to get off stuff. Then you're like, damn

1497
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 1: the fact that I've been like freezing that junk without

1498
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: Now we just scraped the dickens out of them and

1499
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: they still look pretty. Yeah.

1500
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 4: So any what about like skin on like a turkey

1501
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 4: thigh and being able to bite through that skin.

1502
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna require a decent amount of cooking. You know,

1503
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: cold feet is a really good math where you're gonna

1504
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: dry Brian.

1505
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: It first lay this one out for me.

1506
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Uh A coffee is an excellent way to do that.

1507
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 3: So you're gonna you're gonna season it real well with salt,

1508
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 3: and I have a little seasoning mix and there's gonna

1509
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 3: be salt and some sort of some kind of citrus

1510
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: essed little garlic, a pinch of sugar. You season it

1511
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 3: kind of cured a little bit, and then you cook

1512
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 3: it very slowly in fat. That could be a whole

1513
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: drummy a whole I would say, a whole leg quarter,

1514
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: so thigh drumming connected. And then you can you cook

1515
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: that until it's tender. And a very common method for

1516
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: doing all kinds of things. You know, you cold feed rabbit,

1517
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: you can cold feed beef ribs. You can cold feed

1518
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 3: famously duck legs, and then you would take that out

1519
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 3: and and apply heat to it, just like we did

1520
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: yesterday with the with the pig leg You know, you

1521
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: can throw it on the grill, you can put it

1522
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 3: in a hot oven. You can even deep fry it,

1523
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 3: you know, I mean if you want to just kind

1524
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 3: of go over the top. But basically you can render

1525
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: that skin out, but it's gonna require a lot of

1526
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 3: low and slow, gentle cooking on there, and you still

1527
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: might have a little bit of chew. When I was

1528
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: doing the testing, I had some good results. So the

1529
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 3: whole approach I took for the what I call the

1530
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: holiday turkey is I cold and feed the legs in

1531
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 3: that way. And it was a jake. It was a

1532
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: young bird skin on, and then I cooked those slowly

1533
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: and then brought those back in the oven. Got the

1534
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 3: skin browned on. That came out beautifully, and then roasted

1535
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: the breast separately, got it and that came best of

1536
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: the best. It came out great. And simultaneously making a

1537
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 3: sauce a gravy with the liquid in the pot with

1538
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 3: the breast skin side up, so the skin's getting brown

1539
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: and then the liquid underneath it is just getting all

1540
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 3: the flavor from the breast, and then you just puree

1541
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,919
Speaker 3: that instead of thickening it. So it's got the vegetables

1542
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 3: and it came out great, and it was It's just

1543
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 3: like another way to approach the whole turkey. I mean,

1544
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: it is a hyper Thanksgiving style meal right there. You've got,

1545
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, all these flavors of celery and sage, things

1546
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: like that that you that you associate with love them.

1547
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 3: They just loved rosemary in every garden. And and then

1548
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: you get the legs cooked nicely too. But the legs

1549
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 3: took way longer, you know. But but yeah, I had

1550
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,839
Speaker 3: some luck with it. But honestly, I am mostly skinning birds.

1551
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: The for what I'm gonna do a lot of cutlets,

1552
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: a lot of the pyards, the grilled cutlets, and a

1553
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: lot of fried and then I like to generate broth

1554
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 3: and shredded meat off of legs a lot. So I

1555
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: will crockpot that shred the meat, take that broth, use

1556
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: that for whatever purposes I need that for, and have

1557
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: that shredded meat set aside. I don't really need the

1558
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 3: skin at that point. Also, mostly hunting in Texas it's hot,

1559
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: really easy to just get in there and zip that

1560
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 3: bird and just get it and get it done. And

1561
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 3: I'll go in and I'll and I'll skin the wings out.

1562
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 3: And that is a pain in the ass. It's tough.

1563
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: And I and I came to the realization it's like

1564
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 3: plucking and skin it. There's no easy route around those

1565
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the wings. The wings. Yeah, yeah, around the wings.

1566
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 3: It's like it's hard either.

1567
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 5: Skinning the wings is like skinning a squirrel. It's like tough.

1568
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah yeah. And then plucking them is you know,

1569
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 3: requires some some force as well. But you go in

1570
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: and do that.

1571
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: I even know when you give them a dun't. Yeah,

1572
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, nice wing, man, it looks pretty given dun't,

1573
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: you can pluck it out to the bitter end.

1574
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1575
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 5: Are you thinking about what you're gonna do with the

1576
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: bird differently? If you shoot a jake versus a sure

1577
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 5: big old.

1578
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: Share limb hangar, yeah, you you would. You could orient

1579
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: more towards like a whole leg, quarters, whole roasted breasts. Honestly,

1580
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: the best success. I mean, I kind of I want

1581
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: to finish out at your question now, but yeah, just

1582
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: it's more tender, you know, And so I think like

1583
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: the same thing with the haw. The younger the animal,

1584
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 3: the smaller the animal, the bigger the cut, you know,

1585
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: and so you can do more roasts and things like

1586
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 3: that big old bird. And I killed a twenty five

1587
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: pound tom and a rio in Texas and no Wow

1588
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 3: waited on digital scale monster for Texas. Yeah, I don't.

1589
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: Know what he was hanging out nearby? Was corn?

1590
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 5: That weight was it was corn.

1591
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't near corn feed, I mean like real clothes.

1592
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 3: He was a he was a big old boy. Yeah.

1593
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: I shot a bandit turkey one time. The biologist told

1594
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: me it was either five and a half or six

1595
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 3: and a half years kid.

1596
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy.

1597
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was bust out the old crockpopp Well, I

1598
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: mean it was not to go off on a tangent whatever.

1599
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: It took me forever to call this bird in. I

1600
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 3: killed him. Actually my misfired had to load another shell

1601
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 3: killed the bird and it was just like ecstatic walked

1602
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 3: over there and saw a big old metal leg band

1603
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: on him and it was just like what a friend

1604
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: of mine's game ward And I called him up and

1605
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 3: I'm like, guess what he's like that's cool.

1606
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: I got to talk how far away was attagged?

1607
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 3: Three quarters of a mile.

1608
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: Five and a half years.

1609
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: He didn't make that far yeah, no, no, he was

1610
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 3: in a county that doesn't have huge Turkey population, Southeast Austin.

1611
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: Gun missfired. I'm you sure it wasn't User air.

1612
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it's hundred pc user air. Yeah I didn't.

1613
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that turkey might have just said I've been

1614
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 5: around so long after.

1615
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: A lot of my yeah, I've had I've had a

1616
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: lot of misfires. I've had a lot of mispires about

1617
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: being like that. I didn't do something.

1618
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, that was all my fault. Yeah,

1619
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't let the bolt just drive it home,

1620
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 3: and didn't.

1621
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: You try to be quiet?

1622
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1623
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Do you want me? Turkeys have not been killed by

1624
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: people trying to be quiet because you're like you ease

1625
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,520
Speaker 1: that slide forward, you know, or you're like you're you're

1626
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: you're you're hunt with the pump.

1627
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 3: You kind of go, no, I'll never make that mistake.

1628
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't load the pin. I've had that happen

1629
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: so many times. You just don't take yet, you just

1630
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 1: don't when you're hunt with a semi just washing. Yeah,

1631
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: or you'll try to do it quiet and then you

1632
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: like fidget with it, trying to get it to do

1633
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: that final.

1634
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 3: Little that final little Now that that that scarred me.

1635
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 3: And then I got to talk to two different biologists

1636
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: and they they they said that when he was tagged,

1637
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: he was either two and a half or three and

1638
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 3: a half and it was three years prior.

1639
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Well they tagged him as an adult. Yeah, that's cool.

1640
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: What were they what were they working on?

1641
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't know it was in it, Yes, probably just

1642
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 3: population out there because it's one of Texas only has

1643
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 3: a few one Gobbler counties. It's like a April season only,

1644
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 3: and that was in one of those counties, and so

1645
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 3: I would assume just you know, just population status.

1646
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: I wanted something interest about tagging. You used to go

1647
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: out butcher to soft shell out of the soft shell

1648
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: turtle out of the Yellowstone and had a tag on

1649
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: it pinched into its shell. I could never find showed

1650
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: it around, asked around, never found who the hell. It

1651
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: was like a picture like a I can't describe it,

1652
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: like a staple.

1653
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 4: Did you call the grade schools?

1654
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: No? But it's real official looking. It didn't look like

1655
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: someone just said, I hang this whatever on the turtle.

1656
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: You know, it was like pinched into its shell and

1657
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: it just had like a couple numbers. And I don't know,

1658
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: did you call that thing?

1659
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 5: Came from Fish and Wildlife Service? Yeah, it was federal.

1660
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: No, I showed people from the state. Try. So you

1661
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: ever seen a tag like that? That's weird? Yeah, I

1662
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: could never find it.

1663
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 4: You know what's been kind of fun is because I'm

1664
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 4: basing this off of observation and past, i'd say a

1665
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 4: partial criticism of yours regarding our guest Jesse here where

1666
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 4: because we he and I haven't hunted.

1667
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: I criticized him in the past.

1668
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 4: Yes, he and I haven't hunted together. But you're you're,

1669
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 4: like I said, like more observation, soft criticism is Jesse

1670
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 4: has no fun hunting, right, Like on the hogs, It's

1671
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 4: like Jesse's here to get the hog and then like

1672
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 4: get to work.

1673
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: Right, I'll take that skinning hogs is fun.

1674
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 4: But like all of his turkey stories, is very plain

1675
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 4: to see that he has a lot of fun hunting turkeys.

1676
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 1: Well, you enjoy the pursuit.

1677
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 3: I do, I do, And I think that's I mean

1678
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, by the end of the book,

1679
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: I've tried to make that apparent. You know, it's like

1680
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: it's done. It's taught me a lot about patients and why,

1681
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: and you know the motivation. Also, I got to go

1682
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 3: to some beautiful places, you know, and I got to travel.

1683
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm I am typically stuck in Texas, not

1684
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: not for any reason beyond my own fault. I just

1685
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: don't travel to hunt a lot. And this this got me,

1686
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, into very different locations. Eastern Oregon there was

1687
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 3: three feet of snow on the ground, uh, you know,

1688
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 3: the swamps of Georgia, and then Connecticut, which was incredible

1689
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 3: because you're hunting twelve acre property here, nine acre property there,

1690
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 3: and then you're.

1691
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 4: Rolling twelve billion ticks.

1692
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 3: Oh. We were twenty miles from Lime, which was disturbing.

1693
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: All the actual line ye the city and or on

1694
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: on just this vast amount of public land. We had

1695
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: this weird poacher running up there. I had a guy

1696
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: come and shoot a turkey that I was like thirty

1697
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: seconds away from. Just some weird, weird stuff.

1698
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean, but go into that.

1699
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: What happened, Like you were calling a burden and another

1700
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: guy shot it.

1701
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was really weird. So we were

1702
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 3: You have to have permission on a daily permission to

1703
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 3: hunt anywhere in Connecticut from the landowner on a different

1704
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 3: piece of paper. It's very very regulated. So if you're

1705
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 3: going to hunt three differ properties, you got to have

1706
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: three different permission slips per day. Even if it's like

1707
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 3: you're you're the guy.

1708
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Like like if a farmer says, yeah, go ahead.

1709
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to fill out this little permission slip.

1710
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: Really, but even his nephew does.

1711
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 3: As far as I know, that's what we were doing. Yeah,

1712
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 3: we were. We were every morning paperwork time, and so

1713
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 3: we were.

1714
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 1: He was enrolled in the public access program.

1715
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is regular be on private on

1716
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 3: private land. Yeah, yeah, we were.

1717
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Our host people are going to write in about this, Oh.

1718
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure I called, yeah the comment section. I look

1719
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 3: forward to it.

1720
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: Uh, well, there's you can post your property says this

1721
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: is by written permission only. Yeah, and if you get

1722
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,440
Speaker 2: call on there with that written permission, you're trespassing.

1723
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 3: Even our hosts asked we were filling out permission slips

1724
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 3: daily to hunt with him. We we were that day.

1725
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 3: We were rolling around and we were kind of alternating

1726
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 3: between public land, and we rolled to this big area

1727
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: of public land, and right off the trail there's a

1728
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 3: bunch of feathers or like stuck into the ground. Turkey

1729
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: feathers stuck into the ground like a arraid. It was.

1730
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,520
Speaker 3: It was like kind of witchy, like real weird.

1731
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Little kitty, little kiddy, what do you mean little kids

1732
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 1: do stuff like that? And it seems like witches did it.

1733
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 3: Somebody killed a turkey and and was like, hey, I

1734
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 3: killed a turkey that was on public We get to

1735
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: the boundary of that and we have permission to hunt

1736
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 3: the orchard beyond that boundary, and immediately we start hearing gobblers.

1737
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 3: There's three monsters just in this field. Oh, just doing that.

1738
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 3: Not budgeting, not budget at all. We split up, and

1739
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 3: he was going to go around to the other side

1740
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 3: of this field in case, yeah yeah, or if they

1741
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 3: moved off that way and I stayed on one side.

1742
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 3: I had a big open area between me and that field.

1743
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: You're trying to bushwhack them.

1744
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: I tried to bushwhack there's a one pine tree. I

1745
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 3: belly crawled about two hundred yards, you know, the whole time,

1746
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 3: like lime and belly crawled, and I got up on them,

1747
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 3: and those birds just they had some hens on them

1748
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 3: and they just theyre not moving, and they went quiet,

1749
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: and I would I would yelp every twenty minutes, and

1750
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: they just totally went quiet and they moved off into

1751
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 3: the brush. And then after about an hour or so,

1752
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 3: they fire back up, and the three of them in

1753
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: unison are every time they do it, that's it. Thank you.

1754
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm what a point and you're gonna make that sound.

1755
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do it. I'm gonna do it

1756
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: where it's three of them doing it.

1757
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I would yelp and and they would and

1758
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 3: they would hammer back, and they're in this hollow and

1759
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: this noise it's just reverberating to this little valet. But

1760
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: we're on private at this point, and we're bordered on

1761
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 3: one side by a land trust. No hunting allowed there.

1762
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: M hm.

1763
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: They get far enough up into the woods that I

1764
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 3: am able to extra kate where they can't see me,

1765
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 3: and I and I do a wide loop and I

1766
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 3: try to come up on the side of them, and

1767
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 3: so I do, and then I get about one hundred

1768
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 3: and fifty yards and I start talking to them and

1769
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:16,759
Speaker 3: they're every time they're they're really every time not moving.

1770
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 3: But they're in this little hollow and there's this rock wall.

1771
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 3: If you've ever been to Connecticut.

1772
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Walls, every the poet Laurie Robert Frost has the whole

1773
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 1: poem boat. It's like an old stone savage.

1774
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: So I eventually I just I get on the opposite

1775
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 3: side of this rock wall and start creeping up on them.

1776
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: And I'm calling and they're calling back the whole time,

1777
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,799
Speaker 3: but not budging.

1778
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: You're thinking you're just gonna snake your barrel over the

1779
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: top of that rock.

1780
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I'm I've been and I'm like,

1781
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: this is gonna happen. And two of these guys are big.

1782
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the third one is not a jake. I

1783
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 3: mean there, but they're they're great looking birds. I we okay, granted,

1784
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 3: I also I was speaking, you know, just like I'm

1785
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: by myself. I got a photographer with me, you know,

1786
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 3: Jody's with me. We're creeping up along this rock wall.

1787
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: We're probably not forty fifty yards from the point where

1788
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 3: we're going to poke over and seal this deal. And

1789
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 3: a shotgun fires up the hill and hits a tree

1790
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: about thirty yards in front of us. The pattern hits up.

1791
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 3: This somebody shot up and I Am like, what just happened.

1792
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 3: So the other guy that's hunting with us, that had

1793
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: circled around, but I've been texting with him and he

1794
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 3: was he had since left to chase another gobbler that

1795
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: he had heard, so he wasn't in the area. But

1796
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's him. He just did that. I'm

1797
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: a little pissed that he didn't communicate where he was,

1798
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 3: and also that he shot at us. So I start

1799
01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 3: calling his name and I hear nothing, and I'm like, hey, hey, hey,

1800
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: and I hear and I'm like, oh, well, let's turkey flapping.

1801
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't it was a person running away away, no shit, what?

1802
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 3: And so I never saw the person.

1803
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: It's this, did he kill the turkey?

1804
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Honestly? I left. I just got out of there. I

1805
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 3: couldn't see. I like poked over and I looked down

1806
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: into that hall. There was no dead bird that I

1807
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 3: could see. I couldn't hear my friend, the guy that

1808
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: was with us, I didn't know where he was. And

1809
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 3: I was like, and somebody just shot at us, basically,

1810
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm leaving. I'm out of here,

1811
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: and we left and we went back and we met

1812
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 3: the guy at the boundary of the of public and

1813
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 3: private that we were we had the access to, and

1814
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 3: he he was like, absolutely, that is a land trust.

1815
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 3: There's no hunting. Somebody was over there heard these birds hammering,

1816
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 3: I mean for an hour.

1817
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 4: And it was just more than they could stand.

1818
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 5: It was more than they could Did you ever hear

1819
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 5: that that guy call it all?

1820
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 3: No, but if you ever heard me call you know

1821
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 3: it's not a hint.

1822
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 5: The guy I'm saying, the guy that shot, he never.

1823
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: He was just he was slipping into good to be true.

1824
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 4: But you're saying, had he heard you, he would have

1825
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 4: known there was another person.

1826
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 3: He was either brazen or an idiot or both. This

1827
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 3: story idiot. I want to just clarify, every part of

1828
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 3: this story is one hundred percent like this, and.

1829
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: I was hearing any part there's no story is another

1830
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: kind of story where I'm like, Dad's not true.

1831
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 3: And then a friend of this guy by the guy

1832
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 3: that was hunting with the local calls him in a

1833
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 3: little while later and said that a couple that was

1834
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: walking at the land trust saw a guy with a shotgun.

1835
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 3: They called the cops. I came and arrested some dude

1836
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 3: and he was in there and he had a bag,

1837
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: but we don't know if he had his camera. I

1838
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 3: never got any follow up.

1839
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Why don't you get some following an appendix?

1840
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 3: It was very mysterious, very strange. It ended really weird,

1841
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 3: and you know, as that was like mid day, and

1842
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 3: I was just like, I don't even know where to

1843
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 3: go from here, you know. And it's also I'm coming

1844
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: from Texas, you now, and it's just like there's private land.

1845
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't even there's very little public land turkey hunting

1846
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: in Texas. I mean, it's minuscule. And then for these

1847
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 3: these boundaries and all this stuff to exist, and I'm

1848
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very out of my element and just like

1849
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: also just confounded by all all these things that have

1850
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 3: happened that there's like public land, no hunting, private land, yes,

1851
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: hunting with permission, public yes, yes, with with weird display

1852
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 3: of turkey. And then and then you know this mysterious

1853
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 3: person that just dropped in and tried you write about

1854
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 3: in your book. It's all in there. Oh cool? Yeah nice?

1855
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 1: Did you include that he got with resting?

1856
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well supposedly, I mean, that's that's you know that's

1857
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: the third hand that that that's what happened.

1858
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: To hire a researcher to find out what happened to

1859
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: that guy.

1860
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 3: I would love to know. Yeah, but I mean it

1861
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 3: was it was very interesting. And we also had somebody

1862
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 3: fair and square scooped us in Oregon, you know, like

1863
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 3: we were you know, we moved off of a place

1864
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 3: that we thought that a bird would be where you know,

1865
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 3: we had seen one the day before, and we called

1866
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: and never heard anything, and then we moved off and

1867
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 3: that bird was on his way the whole time. Some

1868
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 3: kid and his girlfriend, I mean like teens, Like I

1869
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 3: mean's kid's probably sixteen. He rolled in right after us

1870
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 3: started like calling to this.

1871
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 4: Bird, slammed the car door.

1872
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a really bad crow call. I was like,

1873
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 3: what is that? You know, if I'm if I am

1874
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: judging and calling, it's bad.

1875
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you're trying to shot gobble, doesn't matter

1876
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: what it's on.

1877
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh and then we're and so then we

1878
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 3: start like calling and he's answering both of us, and

1879
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 3: then it's just boom, And I was like, he got it.

1880
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: He throws that bird on his back when we were

1881
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 3: just walked out and we had to walk out the

1882
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 3: same road, him and his girlfriend. He's got this bird

1883
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: on his back, doesn't even turn around, just throws his

1884
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 3: hand up and waves, just like yes, sir, yes, sir.

1885
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure she shot it. And I was

1886
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 3: just like you little sob bitch, like you're having a

1887
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 3: good day, man, very well done, you.

1888
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: Know, said I got some ideas. I can cook that bird.

1889
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, don't hold cook it. Yeah, it's

1890
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 8: stung in the moment, but it it feels a lot

1891
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 8: better now.

1892
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 3: I'm willing to let him have that. But you know,

1893
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 3: just like the spectrum of experiences between you know, private

1894
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 3: and we started off in private in Texas and then

1895
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 3: massive public stretches in Oregon, and then you know, a

1896
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,440
Speaker 3: weird mix of both in Connecticut and having these interactions

1897
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 3: that were you know, fair too scary. Yeah out there too,

1898
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 3: but I mean it was it's interesting. But I yeah,

1899
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean to circle back in a long fashion. I

1900
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: love it, you know, I just love it. It's it's spraying,

1901
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 3: it's beautiful, it's it's fun and I but I love

1902
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 3: eating them the most. I mean, that's really what drives

1903
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 3: it for me. To your point, the cow I just love,

1904
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 3: you know, my birthdays in May. I share a birthday

1905
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 3: with colonel Colonel Tom Kelly. Yeah, and uh that's my

1906
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 3: uh fried turkey every every birthday, Fried turkey and do

1907
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 3: berry cobbler. That's my thing.

1908
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: Dang, what do you gotta get for a big, old,

1909
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: shiny book like this?

1910
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 3: It's that's fifty fifty just like the Hog Book, one

1911
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen recipes, three hundred and seventy odd pages,

1912
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 3: telling exciting stories.

1913
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: It's like thirty three cents of recipe.

1914
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 3: That's a good math, alright.

1915
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 6: You can get at the Meat Eater website.

1916
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 4: So there's another interesting observation with their guest here is

1917
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 4: when you're asking about hogs, he's like real sheepish about

1918
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 4: the hogs that he prefers to shoot. He's like he's

1919
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 4: trying to select for pregnant sows. Yeah, And it's like

1920
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 4: if that's just packaged meat and labeled as something in

1921
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 4: the grocery store, that's just what people want. There's no

1922
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 4: other thought put into it, right, like yeah, easter lamb.

1923
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah. Yeah.

1924
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: It's called The Turkey Book. A Chef's Journey of Hunting

1925
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: and Cooking, America's bird, Jesse Griffiths. Photography by Jody Horton

1926
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: and Sam Everett, And.

1927
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 3: We had two photographers on this one. It's pretty fun.

1928
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: And on the back, I see you got it's cool

1929
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: because you got a little thing that's gonna puzzle most people.

1930
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: There's a gobbler working a decoy.

1931
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, didn't shoot a single over decoy. Oh

1932
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 3: last spring.

1933
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: And it's got a cloth cover. It's beautiful.

1934
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1935
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: It's like a gift. It'd be a great gift book

1936
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 1: because it's so beautiful.

1937
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very well done, thank you, very tasteful.

1938
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: It's very elegant.

1939
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 2: Jesse and I we're talking Sam Averrette, who you know, Steve,

1940
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: my good buddy, has some phenomenal stuff in there.

1941
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I mean there's there's a couple of photos

1942
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 3: in there where he got i mean hunters and birds,

1943
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 3: which is so so difficult. I have a lot of

1944
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 3: respect for, especially in the people in the video realm

1945
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: that are able to capture that. And then he was

1946
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 3: he was able to position himself just as being such

1947
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 3: a great hunter. I mean she grew up. You know,

1948
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: he's big mule deer hunter and a really wonderful guy.

1949
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 3: And also just really killed it on the food photography

1950
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,799
Speaker 3: that he did. He was with us in Georgia and

1951
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 3: and Oregon, and then Jodie, who was the photographer for

1952
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 3: my first two books, did Texas and also went to Connecticut,

1953
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 3: and then all the the interim food photography. Uh, we

1954
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 3: did in his studio, all the all the other recipes,

1955
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:04,799
Speaker 3: but a lot.

1956
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: Of tattoos in yours.

1957
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 3: It's heavy on photography. It's beautiful.

1958
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: What's that call when people make noises and people listen

1959
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah, listen to listen to this. It's really funny.

1960
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: Listen to this cover. Dude, you're getting that film.

1961
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 6: Oh, that's really good.

1962
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: Nice cloth.

1963
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 2: Turn up a little bit and.

1964
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 3: Listen.

1965
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: Listen to that.

1966
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 4: Almost a Wes Anderson field to.

1967
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 1: The cloth cover. Beautiful, No it is, you've thrown through

1968
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: it and it's it's gorgeous. Man. It's a great celebration

1969
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: of a great celebration of a great bird. All kinds

1970
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 1: of beautiful recipes, very very clear descriptions, how to do stuff,

1971
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: winning recipes, how to use all of your bird. Yeah, man,

1972
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: it's beautiful.

1973
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Thank youss.

1974
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 1: The hogbook such a work of art. It's cool to

1975
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: do this one.

1976
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

1977
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: Where I challenge you to do a book this big

1978
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: on Woodcocks. Oh yeah, the Woodcock Book.

1979
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 3: We've got a great uh we've got a bundle going

1980
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: with n WTF right now too. You can get a

1981
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 3: year membership and the book for at a twenty dollars savings.

1982
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: Oh goodness.

1983
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 3: So even if you have a membership, it'll renew it

1984
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 3: automatically for a year. And so they've been really supportive,

1985
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 3: which has been great, and you know, being able to

1986
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 3: try a little bit of membership to them and help

1987
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 3: them out, I mean help them out. They do so much.

1988
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 3: I mean, we've really appreciated there.

1989
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 1: Was for them. You wouldn't be writing no books about turkey.

1990
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 3: That's right, that's absolutely you'd be right.

1991
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 1: And he'd be like writing a book about a Dodo

1992
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for them. Uh yeah. And you can

1993
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: go buy the book at the meat eater dot com. Correct, yep.

1994
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: Beautiful book. Such a nice gift if you know someone

1995
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: likes the hunt turkeys. I don't know, Father's Day whatever.

1996
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: It's just a gorgeous, gorgeous work of arts. So check

1997
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: out the Turkey Book. A chef's journy of Hunting and

1998
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: Cooking America's Bird by Jesse Griffiths, who is just such

1999
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 1: a nice guy, wonderful chef, generous dude, loves wildlife, great

2000
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 1: guy of support. The turkey buck get it now, I'm

2001
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 1: Gobble the school common Gommam the steward.

2002
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 3: Common gomlem on the sto Gobble on the steward.

2003
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm a gangster bird. I was thakful the streets, I say,

2004
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: true spurs, I ain't I see the police, no cat

2005
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: now you sure of course I'm out on the lamb.

2006
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: But this turkey is just too real to wind up.

2007
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: I got ham Gobble, gobble Macker, Steward. What you're gonna

2008
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: do now? I'm the king of these streets. Then I'm

2009
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: running this town.

2010
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 3: Call me Turkey, leave because I'm just.

2011
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: Too strong trying to throw me any of it.

2012
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go off, Turks, not up unless rane Turkey

2013
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: Lee's throwing hands.

2014
01:46:50,960 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a fight, The