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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: In Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, congratulations to

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Speaker 2: the Florida Gators. Buck Sexton and I both nailed it,

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Speaker 2: said the Florida Gators are going to win the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: They did in a really fun game last night. We'll

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Speaker 2: maybe have a little bit of fun with that. Buck's wife, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: is a Florida Gator alum, and I know many of

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Speaker 2: you out there listening across the country are Gator fans

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Speaker 2: as well, Houston Cougar fans.

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Speaker 1: Probably great season.

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Speaker 2: Probably not going to be as angry at me today

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Speaker 2: and the talkbacks as they were yesterday. Since Florida one

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Speaker 2: covered as I told you they were going to do,

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Speaker 2: we'll have some fun with that. We also will continue

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Speaker 2: to be CNBC and Fox Business. Since everybody is suddenly

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Speaker 2: obsessed with what the day to day movement of the

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Speaker 2: stock market is, let me go ahead and tell you

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Speaker 2: right off the top.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: The Dow is up roughly one thousand points today. For

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Speaker 2: those of you who have been obsessively following the stock

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Speaker 2: market during the Trump battle, S and P five hundred

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Speaker 2: up about two and a half points two and a

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Speaker 2: half percent, that is, and the NASDAC up about two

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Speaker 2: and a half percent. So I am your business a

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Speaker 2: business beat writer here giving you the absolute latest on

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Speaker 2: the stock market. In all seriousness, stock market is bouncing

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Speaker 2: back quite a lot, as we told you it was

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Speaker 2: likely to do. And I saw Buck something that I

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Speaker 2: thought kind of perfectly epitomized the way the market is

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Speaker 2: being used to attack Trump right now. CNN yesterday, when

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Speaker 2: the stock market was down, had the stock market ticker

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Speaker 2: on their screen constantly all day long. Hey it's down, this,

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Speaker 2: it's down that Today the stock market is surging, going

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Speaker 2: back up substantially. But again general lesson here. They are

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Speaker 2: going to use whatever they can to attack Trump. The

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Speaker 2: stock market is going to go up, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to go down. I told you if it's below where

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Speaker 2: clown costume and I'll tell you, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I was totally wrong. I think it's going to resolve itself.

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Speaker 2: I think by the summer, many of these trade disputes

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Speaker 2: will be decided. The battle with China is going to

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Speaker 2: be longer lasting because China has been for decades now

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Speaker 2: long time, I think, to potentially get a resolution there.

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Speaker 2: But we told you at some point water is going

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Speaker 2: to find its level. The markets have seemingly adjusted to

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Speaker 2: this trade war that is now underway. Big drops Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 2: big bounce back today, and we will see kind of

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Speaker 2: against Trump. Other news today, Buck's last radio show as tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be on tomorrow too, Yeah, yeah, okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought you were out. I thought you were out my

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Speaker 1: last full day. And for those of you are saying, like,

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Speaker 1: how do you know it could happen, Yes, it could happen,

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Speaker 1: like in five minutes. Let's let's hope. K not because

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Speaker 1: I'm the middle of the show, but I would go

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Speaker 1: with my wife at the hospital. But because the baby's

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Speaker 1: gotten a little big the doctors would like us to induce.

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Speaker 1: So that's why you were inducing tomorrow. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the show tomorrow. I'm gonna be on the show, Toro.

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Speaker 1: I'm finishing the show tomorrow, grabbing my go bag with

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you were at the hospital tomorrow. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Buck has one more show.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna do a live segment from the hospital

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Speaker 1: during the they'd like, yes, Clay. Here, I am seventh

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Speaker 1: floor of the Miami the sideline reporter of the baby delivery. Okay,

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Speaker 1: market does bounce back, how many days in a row

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Speaker 1: Remember when it was the first term, everything Trump did

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Speaker 1: And the one thing that actually caused the biggest calamity

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Speaker 2: And now that sort of set the whole world on fire.

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Speaker 2: But Trump had nothing at all to do with having

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Speaker 2: Fauci had something to do with it from years and

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Speaker 2: constantly shifting. The signal leaked Jeffrey Goldberg Atlantic story was

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Speaker 2: gonna burn everything down. Now that's completely gone, and the

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Speaker 2: new thing is, oh, Trump's tariff battle is going to

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Speaker 2: destroy the world. That's the new calamity.

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Speaker 1: Well, they've had to come to grips with something in

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Speaker 1: the anti Trump media, which is that their credibility in

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Speaker 1: that even for Trump voters, right, it's just evaporated. We're

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Speaker 1: in a totally different world now. Just the front page

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Speaker 1: much more clearly than ever before, that the media is

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Speaker 1: running anti Trump ops on a regular basis, choosing what

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Speaker 1: to cover, how they cover at everything, and so clay.

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Speaker 1: They no longer have the ability, They no longer have

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Speaker 1: the ability to induce there's that word again, to induce

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Speaker 1: panic across the country the same way. Now. Their audience

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Speaker 1: For the Libs, they can't get themselves quite as freaked

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Speaker 1: now we're seeing no, it's actually fine. It's all fine, Libs.

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Speaker 1: You know, this was the one thing when I was

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Speaker 1: I promise you Trump is not Hitler and it's all

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Speaker 1: I think the country's over if he wins. Well, now

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Speaker 1: So Clay, this is the administration continuing to keep promises.

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Speaker 1: And also I think to be very focused on what

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Speaker 1: that's the Trump doesn't give a you know what about

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Speaker 1: what they say. Is actually a powerful political tool right now,

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Speaker 1: or it's a powerful political reality, and I think he

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Speaker 1: should continue to do this. They also, we haven't mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into it more later. Supreme Court just came

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Speaker 1: down five to four on the Alien Enemies Act deportations,

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Speaker 1: continue to do that. And I know there's a change

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Speaker 1: of venue. We can get into some of those specifics,

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Speaker 1: but it is not in fact the case that this

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Speaker 1: they're really running out of stuff to tell us is

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Speaker 1: going to cause the depression because of Trump? Right, They're

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Speaker 1: running out of levers to pull here on this one.

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Speaker 1: Because if this was supposed to be Black Monday, as

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Speaker 1: they were saying, as Kramer said, to whatever degree anyone

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Speaker 1: answer should be almost not at all. But what are

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Speaker 1: they going to keep saying?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 1: Is this going to be the walls they're closing in

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Speaker 1: with the impeachments all over again? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that they still are completely ineffectual at their efforts to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's totally true, and I think it's important. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm pulling up since I'm the stock market reporter right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, your stocks are basically the exact same price

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Speaker 2: imagine most of you did not eleven months ago, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Clay, beyond that, though, you know that the

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Speaker 1: and the economy as well. Here they said, meaning the

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Speaker 1: people that are freaked out about Trump as a profession,

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Speaker 1: they said that he was going to crash the stock

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Speaker 1: will be a greater degree of market certainty and a

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Speaker 1: greater degree of the economy is okay, right. The perception

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Speaker 1: think also Clay goes to Trump and his team understand

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Speaker 1: these fundamental currents within the economy, not just the stock market,

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Speaker 1: these things are in consideration, and this team knows what

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Speaker 1: they are doing and is trying to achieve something. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can just tell the Democrats were hoping. They were

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Speaker 1: hoping for the stock market to go down forty percent yesterday, yes,

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Speaker 1: because that would in their minds, that would be okay,

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Speaker 2: And I definitely think again, for all of you out there,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show. Okay, I understand,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's also important context that not only

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Speaker 4: I'm so I'm so principled. What Trump is doing is

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Speaker 2: What about Crazily Remember when the Colorado is Supreme I know,

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Speaker 1: a year ago that you can prosecute a president criminally

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Speaker 1: I don't like the air strike he did throw them in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was effectively the argument that they were making. The

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Speaker 1: New York Times legal experts, you're just wrong over and

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Speaker 1: over and to your point, in some of these cases,

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Speaker 1: they're wrong nine. Oh yeah, has to be like, you

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Speaker 2: Well, even this with the San Francisco District judge, everybody's

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Speaker 2: We told you on this show. Yeah, this is the

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Speaker 2: very province of presidential authority. Even this was seven to two.

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Speaker 2: You know, even this order striking down what the San

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Speaker 2: the ability to do this. And again, this is why

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Speaker 2: They're designed to delay. It's it's like if you're if

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Speaker 2: It's just to slow everything down. It's all dilatory tactics,

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Speaker 2: that's all that's going on here. And you know in

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Speaker 2: this order about the this is the one that just

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That is it's essentially saying, hey, you can't the judge

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Speaker 1: Get out of here. This is when a judge tried

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Speaker 1: We're gonna figure out a nice deal. But China, Clay,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the gloves are off with China right now.

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Speaker 2: We've been giving you the absolute latest on everything that's

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. I think it's important for many of you

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Speaker 2: but ultimately this trade battle is really about the United

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Speaker 2: with the European Union, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Japan, whoever else

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Speaker 2: battle to be fought. It's going to resolve itself in

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Speaker 2: the weeks and months ahead. But right now Trump is

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Speaker 2: retaliating for China's retaliation to US, and I guess the

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Speaker 2: next question, Buck, is will China retaliate again or is

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Speaker 2: this move by Trump to put one hundred tariff on

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Speaker 2: all Chinese goods going to actually provoke China to say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's sit down, let's talk about a way to figure

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Speaker 2: this out. So we will see exactly how that pans out.

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Speaker 2: Bridge Colby committed, confirmed, not committed. We probably need to

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Speaker 2: commit some Democrats, but not Bridge Colby and so he

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Speaker 2: is confirmed. And we have been talking about the liberal

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Speaker 2: judges and what they.

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Speaker 1: Have been doing.

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court in back to back rulings has given Trump

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Speaker 2: the ability to continue to maintain his.

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Speaker 1: Overall executive authority. Florida Gators get the win over the

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Speaker 1: Houston Cougars. Both Buck and I had the right champions

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Speaker 1: We both had three fourths of the final four and

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Speaker 1: also one half of the championship game. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be joined by doctor Art Laffer. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to get you a wide variety of perspectives on

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Speaker 1: the trade dispute. Doctor Laffer had a really interesting Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal piece that was up in Yesterday's was up

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Speaker 1: yesterday online. I believe it's in today's newspaper about how

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Speaker 1: to resolve the trade disputes. One of the most brilliant

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Speaker 1: economists in the entire world, and so we will talk

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Speaker 1: of chaos going on, lots of craziness on a day

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Speaker 1: to day basis. I bet there are strong opinions on this.

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Speaker 2: There are reports this was the Time magazine cover that

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Speaker 2: we have brought back a company has. I read all

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Speaker 2: about this yesterday. I was fascinated by it yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: The dire Wolf, which is a bigger wolf than the

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Speaker 1: traditional wolf, has been thanks to using DNA code. A

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Speaker 1: company is saying they have brought the dire wolf back

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Speaker 1: from extinction after ten thousand years. Now.

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Speaker 2: Many of you are going to be familiar with the

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Speaker 2: idea of the dire wolf because you watched Game of

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Speaker 2: Thrones and the wolves in that Game of Thrones multi

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Speaker 2: year saga grew into gigantic killing machines from small puppies.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to dive into this book back in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: When you and I were young.

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Speaker 2: The book before they made the movie Jurassic Park by

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Speaker 2: Michael Crichton. The entire concept is that they're able to

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Speaker 2: take the of the dinosaurs from these if I remember

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Speaker 2: correctly Mosquito's frozen and amber, and that they are then

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Speaker 2: able to extract that DNA to create new dinosaurs. And obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Jurassic Park franchise in terms of movies has remained

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Speaker 2: incredibly durable and powerful for thirty some odd years because

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Speaker 2: lots of people remain fascinated by dinosaurs in general, lots

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Speaker 2: of little boys, although not lots of little girls too.

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Speaker 2: I remember, I think you said your nephew knows everything

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Speaker 2: about dinosaurs. When I was a little kid, I knew

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Speaker 2: everything about dinosaurs. There is a great deal of interest still,

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Speaker 2: obviously in the Jurassic universe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and there are other species that could already be

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Speaker 1: brought back. I think, aren't they working on mastodons or

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Speaker 1: the wooly mammoth? For sure? Maybe the mastodon, the wooly

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Speaker 1: mammoth I think is basically going to happen. In the

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Speaker 1: article that I read, they are going to bring back

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Speaker 1: the sabertooth tiger. They are going they're going to bring back.

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Speaker 2: So my question, I'm fascinated by what the reaction of

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Speaker 2: this audience, too good or bad? And let me give

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Speaker 2: you a question to think about this buck. I was

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Speaker 2: just out in Colorado over spring break, and I bet

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of people listening in Colorado right now.

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Speaker 2: And I know this has turned into a major issue

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Speaker 2: all over the West. They have reintroduced wolves in lots

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Speaker 2: of states and communities where the wolf had basically been eradicated.

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Speaker 2: And if you have a ranch, ranchers are furious about

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Speaker 2: this because suddenly what I was told I was in Colorado,

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Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, everybody in Boulder and Denver decided they

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Speaker 2: wanted to vote to bring back wolves, and all the

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Speaker 2: people who live in rural Colorado are like thanks, jerks like,

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Speaker 2: we have no interest in bringing back wolves, and suddenly

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Speaker 2: our livestock are getting killed and we're having to worry

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Speaker 2: about something that we had eradicated. My thought is, now,

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Speaker 2: these dire wolves, there are three of them that they

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Speaker 2: say they have brought back, two boys and a that

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Speaker 2: they named Romulus and Remus, and one girl pop Will

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Speaker 2: they like in Jurassic Park, eventually find their way out

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Speaker 2: and then they're suddenly circulating in the community. They say

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Speaker 2: that the dire wolf basically covered all of North America

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Speaker 2: back in the day ten thousand years ago. If you

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Speaker 2: were out, this thing was from Canada all the way

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Speaker 2: down into South America. They basically roamed free. They were

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Speaker 2: wiped out about ten thousand years ago. What is your

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Speaker 2: take on the idea, not only of the dire wolf,

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Speaker 2: saber too, tiger wooly mammoth being bringing back extinct animals

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Speaker 2: good or bad move?

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Speaker 1: What's your take?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: I love the book Jurassic Park, as all of you know,

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Speaker 1: and so I find this a fascinating entry into the

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Speaker 1: scientific annals that is going on right now. I think that, man,

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Speaker 1: the truth is this the same way that you know.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to I've been to Africa, but I

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Speaker 1: love knowing that there's all these incredible I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: have been to Africa. That's not true, but I've never

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Speaker 1: been on safari in Africa, but that I've been to

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Speaker 1: places where there are no safaris. They've been in some

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Speaker 1: rough parts of Africa, but I've never I've never done safari,

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Speaker 1: but I love knowing that there are lions and hippopotami

651
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I think that it's tough

652
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Speaker 1: for us to separate out the concept of it. This

653
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: is why when you brought up the ranchers. I think

654
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: that's very afro po, the concept of it versus the

655
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Speaker 1: reality of it. You know, a saber tooth tiger is

656
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: fine until saber too tiger eats your grandma and then

657
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you're pretty it. This actually came up if you you

658
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: remember when this I think it was Cecil the Lion

659
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: was the big story and Jimmy Kim they killed him, yes,

660
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: and it was like him was like crying on TV

661
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: about Cecil the Lion in Africa, who on a lawful

662
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: hunt was shot. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Cecil the light

663
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: is crying. And look, I love animals, so I get that.

664
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Speaker 1: And there's something that's, you know, like I love my

665
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: little dog Ginger so much, and yet I'm I'm gonna

666
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: lamb shops right for dinner. Like I understand some of

667
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: this stuff. We get a little. It's about sentimentality over

668
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: pure logic. Okay, But that all said, there was a

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Speaker 1: really interesting Wall Street Journal article that I remember from

670
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Speaker 1: that time, written by I think he was a student

671
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: at Harvard or Princeton, who was like, you know what

672
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: lions mean in my village? Yeah? I read the people

673
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: get eaten? Yeah, like this isn't a game to us,

674
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: like we actually have to control the population because they'll

675
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: eat your dad, they'll eat your sister, Like, you know,

676
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: this is a real thing that happens to real people,

677
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: which reminds me of that movie Ghost in the Darkness,

678
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: based on a true story. And I know you all

679
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: know this and you can go see the stuffed carcasses

680
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: of those lions and I'm in a zoo and I'm

681
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Speaker 1: in a museum in Chicago. Wasn't Val Kilmer in that movie?

682
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: That just yeah, yeah, it was a Valkilmer movie with

683
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Speaker 1: Michael Douglas. Kind of a weird casting of Michael Douglas,

684
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: but anyway, Val Kilmer was good in it. And that's

685
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: based on a true story. I mean, these lie became

686
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: habituated to eating people and they're like, wow, people are

687
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: slow and kind of weak, like let's just eat them instead.

688
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: So this is all a way to say, I think

689
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Speaker 1: for you know, should we bring back dodo birds?

690
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: Totally, like should we bring back species that? But you know,

692
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Speaker 1: this is where you also get into clay. I'm here

693
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: in South Florida and you have the Boa constrictors and

694
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Speaker 1: and also what do you call them? The big. They

695
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: look like little dragons on ias. Yeah, yeah, and they

696
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: are invasive. Well, boas are definitely an invasive species. I

697
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: think iguanas are two. I don't think they're native to hear.

698
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: They're basically pets that have escaped and now they're killing

699
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: all the native you know, ecosystem animals off, so you

700
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Speaker 1: have to go hunt them and deal with them. True thing. Also,

701
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: you know that little brown bird that you guys all

702
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: think of, the European house sparrow, probably the most common

703
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: bird in the entire United States everywhere, a little kind

704
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: of round squat bird. They're an invasive species from Europe

705
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: and they have killed off a lot of native bird

706
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Speaker 1: species because they will break into another bird's nest and

707
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: break their eggs. They're mean, they're mean little birds. The

708
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: honeybee is an invasive species. Well, but we like honeybees.

709
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: This is, I guess the point, right, We like that

710
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: honey People don't realize this. North America, until colonization, had

711
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: no honeybees anywhere, and then they slowly spread across the

712
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: entirety of the North American continent. But they were a

713
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Speaker 1: invasive species that otherwise didn't exist here. Some of you

714
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Speaker 1: will remember this too. There was a fear about fire

715
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: ants and how they're going to keep spreading up and

716
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: spreading up, and you know, they're dangerous to people if

717
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: you step on one of their anhills. And there was

718
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: a briefly discussed proposal that I remember reading about the

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Speaker 1: only real, real natural predators for the fire ants. They

720
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Speaker 1: were thinking, maybe we should introduce it's a South American

721
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Speaker 1: anteater which has like six inch long claws and weighs

722
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Speaker 1: like two hundred pounds. And then they're like, well, if

723
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Speaker 1: we introduce that, what's its natural predatory Jaguars? So you

724
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Speaker 1: create all these problems, the food.

725
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Speaker 2: Chain gets dangerous. Okay, So I am in favor of this.

726
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: Here is my thing as a pet, yes or no?

727
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: Once they reintroduced you, no, no, no, I'm in favor

728
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: of it only for keeping them in captivity. And I

729
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: understand some of you are going to say, yeah, that's

730
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: the whole point of Jurassic Park. But I like it

731
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: also for endangered species now because in theory, it would

732
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: mean there should be no animal that actually vanishes, right,

733
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: you should be able to get the existing DNA of

734
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Speaker 2: all animals that are alive on Earth today, and we

735
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: should be able to create a genetic Noah's Arc of

736
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Speaker 2: all living animals here today and be able to create them.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't want if I'm a think.

738
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Speaker 2: About this in terms of the farmers out there and

739
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Speaker 2: the ranchers, the idea that you would reintroduce grizzly bears

740
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Speaker 2: or wolves that are going to attack my livestock is

741
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Speaker 2: I think different than this.

742
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Speaker 1: I would nothing else produce these animals, something else that

743
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Speaker 1: that would be on the on the docket here go. Uh,

744
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Speaker 1: I believe it's I believe it's called a short faced bear.

745
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: Go look up the short faced bear and it's like

746
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: a grizzly bear times three. It's a massive land predator. Uh.

747
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: That they could also along with the saber it's from

748
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: the same era as a saber tooth tiger. They could

749
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: also bring that one back. And I think that you know,

750
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: you're starting to see we definitely don't want that, right.

751
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna be the same way that

752
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: polar polar bears hunt people. It's really the only North

753
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: American land animal. Yeah, I know, grizzlies can wolf has

754
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: never actually attacked healthy wolves have never attacked the human

755
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: being in the history of North America is at least

756
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: what you that's what they announced me. You're gonna say no,

757
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: but that's what they say. Okay, that's what the official

758
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: statistics are. The wolves won't attack people if they're healthy.

759
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: If they're a rabid, that's different. Polar bear see you,

760
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: and they're like food food, they do. There's no offens

761
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: or butts, and the same thing would be true of

762
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: a short faced bear. So you know some of the thing.

763
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Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this one, buck. My boys

764
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: are obsessed with the megalodon, which is just a giant shark.

765
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Speaker 1: In theory, the dire wolf can be kept in inside

766
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Speaker 1: of a fenced enclosure and everything else. My concern on

767
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: this would be that we would start.

768
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Speaker 2: To create big, massive animals that are in the water,

769
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: and those are a lot harder to control. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever been ton to, say, for instance, the Atlanta Aquarium

771
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: where they have the whale sharks. You know, they've never

772
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: been able to, for instance, keep I believe this is

773
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: still true, a great white shark in captivity. They just

774
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: they're impossible to keep inside of museums or aquariums, anything

775
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: like that. My concern is that some of these that

776
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: we will create will get out. And can you imagine

777
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: a world where suddenly you have, instead of a great

778
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: white shark, you've got the megalodon suddenly like rolling around

779
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: in the ocean deep. That starts to get a little

780
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: bit scarier to me. But I think it's the reality

781
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: of where we are going. I think you're going to

782
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: see all of these extinct animals genetically us able to

783
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: bring them back. Now, one more thing, as we go

784
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Speaker 2: to break some people are saying this is not the

785
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Speaker 2: real animal because of the way they're doing the DNA coding,

786
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Speaker 2: and that gets way more complicated and above my pay grade.

787
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: But I have read some of those critiques as well.

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Speaker 1: utmost care and lawful authority as a city, and heaven forbid,

795
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796
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody

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Speaker 2: hanging out with us. We got a lot of you

815
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Speaker 2: weighing in with a variety of questions and let's hit

816
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Speaker 2: some of these Selena Zito is scheduled to join us.

817
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Speaker 2: He's got a Washington Post op ed about the manufacturing

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Speaker 2: universe right now in the Midwest. She's done a great

819
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: job covering that era area for some time and the

820
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Speaker 2: era of the Trump Midwest surge. So we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that when she reaches out to us. And she is

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Speaker 2: now with us now, so we bring in Selena Zito.

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Speaker 2: She has got a op ed in the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: where she has been spending time with Midwestern workers. Selena,

825
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Speaker 2: I'm curious what you're hearing from people in the Midwest,

826
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Speaker 2: an area that used to be the manufacturing of America

827
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Speaker 2: that has certainly dried up in many different ways. Jade

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Speaker 2: Vance has been a huge part of his political career

829
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Speaker 2: as talking about the jobs that no longer exist in

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Speaker 2: the Midwest. What are you hearing from voters in the Midwest,

831
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Speaker 2: How do you think this tariff war plays for them?

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Speaker 2: And how would you assess the politics of what's going

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Speaker 2: on right now?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, thanks for having me on. You know,

835
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Speaker 5: I cover a different world, very different than you know,

836
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Speaker 5: sort of the very online world, and where I'm at

837
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Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. You know, the heart of the

838
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Speaker 5: Great Lakes Midwest, in Appalachia. These people here are very

839
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Speaker 5: happy with the tariffs. They have spent the past forty years,

840
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 5: whether it was themselves or their parents or their grandparents,

841
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: watching these communities, these churches, the tax spase in their

842
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 5: communities being decimated, and nobody even wrote a story. I mean,

843
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm obvious being a little exaggerating here, but there wasn't

844
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Speaker 5: this big overt worry about their lives right when when

845
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 5: all their jobs were lost, when everything was taken away

846
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Speaker 5: from them. And so they look at it two ways.

847
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Speaker 5: They look at it as being patriotic, bringing back American manufacturing,

848
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Speaker 5: sacrificing in their four oh one k for the betterment

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Speaker 5: of the country. But they also look at it as

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Speaker 5: leveling the pill of playing field. And it's not just manufacturing.

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Speaker 6: Talk to a ranter, they're happy, right, Talk to a manufacturer,

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Speaker 6: small businessman like Tyler Merritt down in Savannah, Georgia, the guy.

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Speaker 5: Who owns nine line.

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Speaker 6: He's thrilled.

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Speaker 5: You know, these guys are thrilled. And these are the

856
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 5: people that placed Donald Trump into office. It was the

857
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 5: working class that was at the heart of this election.

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Speaker 1: What'd you learn Selena specifically from and thanks for being

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00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: here with us. When you went to in West mifflind

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania a steel mill and you talk to the folks

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Speaker 1: at the mill, I mean, just what were your biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaways both from seeing that operation. I think very few

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Speaker 1: people who don't work in a steel mill have ever

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Speaker 1: really been inside one, and also their sense of what

865
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Speaker 1: would they say to people who claim, well, but we

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Speaker 1: can never make steel the way they do as cheaply

867
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Speaker 1: as they do in China, so why even try?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: So if people know and check my Twitter feed out,

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Speaker 5: zdo Selena. I've put the story up for free. It's

871
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Speaker 5: a Washington Post story. It is a very detailed, long read,

872
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Speaker 5: and it really puts you into the heart of why

873
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 5: people feel the way they do. This isn't just a

874
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Speaker 5: steel mill. This is the first steel mill. This is

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Speaker 5: the granddaddy of the mall. That was an eighty six

876
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: year old hot rolling mill that I spent the day

877
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Speaker 5: watching work and watching the men and women work around it.

878
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Speaker 5: And these workers who would traditionally be born Democrats. Right

879
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 5: in western Pa, you're usually born Catholic and Democrats. It

880
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 5: just like goes together. They are the perfect example of

881
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 5: how the coalitions in American politics have dramatically changed, and

882
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 5: now that the Republican Party or the Conservative Populist Party

883
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 5: is now the party that embraces the working man and women,

884
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Speaker 5: and so they're very happy and they're willing to take

885
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Speaker 5: a bite out of out of their four oh one

886
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: case if it means that this will be better for

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Speaker 5: the future generations. And that's the way these union guys talk.

888
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: Like a lot of those union workers that you'll in

889
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Speaker 5: the story, they're towards the end of their career, right

890
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: they're in their fifties. They said, this isn't about me.

891
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: This is about the guy that just started at the

892
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: plant two weeks ago. Guys before me did this and

893
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 5: took sacrifices, and my I'm to pay it forward and

894
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Speaker 5: make sure that they are able to retire when they

895
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Speaker 5: termed sixty Selena.

896
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Speaker 2: One of the real challenges, and we played a cut

897
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Speaker 2: from Trump talking about this, is investment and business management,

898
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Speaker 2: building a factory. Those sorts of things take years. In

899
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Speaker 2: other words, as you just laid out, it's taken a

900
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Speaker 2: couple of generations for all of these jobs to dry up.

901
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Speaker 2: This is not something where a light switch got flipped

902
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: and things changed. What is the trajectory of changing this

903
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: culture that we created where the jobs don't exist? How

904
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: long does it take? And to be fair, is anything?

905
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Speaker 2: Is this anything that one president can do or do

906
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: we have to string together a lot of presidents that

907
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Speaker 2: see this as an issue in order to reverse what's

908
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Speaker 2: happened too.

909
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you asked that. Last week I reported

910
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: out a story there was the law the tallest coal

911
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 5: stack smokestack in the country was blasted and fell. Its

912
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 5: very traumatic. It is very sad for a coal fired

913
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Speaker 5: power plant. Ten days later, because this site is shovel ready,

914
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: they announced they are starting. They've already started to turn

915
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 5: this plant into a natural gas plant to facilitate not

916
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: just the electricity in Pennsylvania, Maryland and parts of New York.

917
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 5: It's going to be the largest electric power plant in

918
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: the country. It is also going to power a data

919
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 5: center for an AI data center. There are going to

920
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: be ten thousand new jobs. That's and and it is

921
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 5: a ten billion dollar investment. And that's not even before

922
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 5: the AI data center is built. You know, Bergmann was there.

923
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 5: He was I was at a racking site, a racking

924
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: well and he said, Look, our job right now is

925
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 5: to build, build, build. It's more than drill drill, drill,

926
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Speaker 5: because this is like the arms race. AI is like

927
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Speaker 5: the arms race, and we have to win in this country.

928
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 5: And he pointed to the fact that there are places

929
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Speaker 5: like that coal fired power plant and Homer City all

930
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 5: over the industrial Midwest that are ready and capable to

931
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Speaker 5: be built. So I think that is where the new construction,

932
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: the new jobs. And these aren't just working class jobs.

933
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 5: These aren't just welders, these aren't just artisans that work

934
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Speaker 5: with their hands. There are geologists there, chemists, engineers, men

935
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Speaker 5: and women with degrees in AI and technology. So it

936
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Speaker 5: is a broad reconstruction of how the American economy and

937
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Speaker 5: how the American worker approaches the next generation.

938
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating, Selena. You know, you're giving us this other

939
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: perspective than what you'd get if you were to flip

940
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: on CNBC. It's the sky is falling. And yet if

941
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: you go into some of these places like you have,

942
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Speaker 1: where people have seen what happens with the offshoring of

943
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: American jobs and de industrialization of certain industries, that they're

944
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: they're excited about the future. I just wonder you know

945
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: what you think the hopes are and the plans are

946
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: in these areas. If Trump is able to continue on

947
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: this path, what does that start to look like? What

948
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: towns are affected? What industries do you think can boom?

949
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 5: Well, energy is at the top of the list, but

950
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: also artificial intelligence, Right, those are the two big booms.

951
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: If energy is going well, then that means farming is

952
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 5: going well because of you know, energy and farming go

953
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 5: really hand in hand together. And I think one of

954
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: the big things as part of these tariffs is to

955
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 5: give a boost to our American farmer and rancher. So

956
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: those are industries you see right then and there, and

957
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 5: then we can talk about our universities. Right our universities

958
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 5: will will will have a bit of a turnaround and

959
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 5: what they focus on. You know, maybe it's not your kids.

960
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 5: You send your kid off for French literature, you know,

961
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 5: maybe they go to school for things that are going

962
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: to recreate these communities. The footprint is already there in

963
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: places like Indiana, Pennsylvania, or West Miffland, Pennsylvania, or Claysville, Pennsylvania,

964
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 5: and all across and not just in Pennsylvania. It's in Ohio,

965
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 5: it's in Michigan. It's in Wisconsin. Use these places are

966
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 5: already there, and these universe cities already have sort of

967
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 5: the grain to begin these kinds of of new new

968
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: degrees that young people can go for. But also the trades.

969
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 5: Like you guys, I'm sure you've talked or listen to

970
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 5: Mike grow you know, the trades are also where we

971
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: are going to see a growth and jobs that create

972
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 5: real prosperity, where people can live in the same hometown

973
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 5: that their parents grew up in if they want to, right,

974
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 5: and that that generational investment in a community that's worth

975
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 5: more than money in a lot of ways.

976
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Speaker 2: Selena, how optimistic are you? You know, we hear a

977
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: lot of hey, everything is burning down, the world's on fire.

978
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: Based on what you have seen in the reporting that

979
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: you have done, how would you accept your overall optimism?

980
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 5: I think the optimism is great. It's you know, I

981
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: straddle two different, very different worlds. When I step on

982
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 5: social media, I see a very different attitude in the

983
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 5: world than what I see and feeling here out here

984
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 5: in the middle of the country, and it's it's always

985
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 5: remarkable to me. And it's sort of like when I

986
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 5: said to President Trump in twenty sixteen when I was

987
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 5: covering him, I said, you know, voters take you seriously,

988
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: but they don't take you literally. And my profession takes

989
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 5: everything you say literally and not so seriously. And and

990
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 5: it's still it's that same sort of dichotomy, right It's

991
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: it's it's very different in the middle of the country

992
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 5: and in particular among young people. You know, you see

993
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 5: all these protests out there, and they got a lot

994
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: of play on social media and the national news. However,

995
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 5: I would argue American politics is all about edition. If

996
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 5: you go to any of these rallies, try to find

997
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 5: someone that's changed their mind, you likely can't because they're

998
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 5: the same people that voted for who lost last November.

999
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: So they're not adding anything new. And I think that's

1000
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 5: the challenge right now for anything that is against what

1001
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 5: President Trump and the Republicans are trying to accomplish. I

1002
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: was four feet away from President Trump in Butler in

1003
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 5: July thirteenth of last year. In fact, I have a

1004
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: book coming out about it. But one thing I can

1005
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 5: tell you in the day after I talked to him,

1006
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 5: In the days after I talked to him, he had

1007
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 5: this fundamental understanding that there was a reason that he

1008
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: did not die that day because so many there's so

1009
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 5: many reasons why he shouldn't have survived what happened. But

1010
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 5: because of that, he will be forever changed and deeals

1011
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 5: this urgency to do something because he was given that

1012
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: moment to be sick.

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Speaker 1: Selena, selenas you doo. Yeah, great, great work as always,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your piece to Washington Post and everything you

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Speaker 1: do to cover this. And up at clayanbuck dot com. Guys,

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Speaker 1: a read. You absolutely should. Selena, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 5: Oh sounds great. Thanks so much, guys.

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