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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is stej Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club Lone, the Rosa fhillin in for

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Speaker 2: just this morning. And we got a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the building. We have Kevi on stage. Yes, y'all, how

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Speaker 2: you feeling good?

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Speaker 1: Morning?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to hear that for a long time.

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Speaker 1: How are you, my brother? I'm good man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me. You know, there's some

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Speaker 3: people who might know. I got a two part question.

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Speaker 3: Number one, who is Kevi on stage? And who is

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Speaker 3: Kevin Fredericks.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Kevi on stage is probably the performative version of

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Speaker 3: Kevin Fredericks. Kevi on stage is a comedian entertainer. Uh

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Speaker 3: pretty much do anything to make you laugh. I feel

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Speaker 3: like Kevin Fredericks is a father, husband, business person as well.

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Speaker 1: You know that's it. I think it's two sides.

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Speaker 3: When I'm when I'm at home, I'm Kevin Fredericks, right,

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Speaker 3: gotta make my family laugh.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not like Yo, let me see this boo

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Speaker 1: booty boo, BITI boo.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But when I leave that house,

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Speaker 3: I'm kept on stage, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 2: How'd you get into comedy, especially coming from the church. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think clean quote unquote clean comic.

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Speaker 3: Yes. And when I say clean, I just don't cuss,

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Speaker 3: like yeah, because clean has different connotations, like you can

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Speaker 3: be clean where there's no vulgar material at all, you

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Speaker 3: don't touch certain subjects. I really just don't cuss. I

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Speaker 3: talk about everything else in my life, everything else that

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Speaker 3: I think is funny. I just don't cuss. I say

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Speaker 3: nigga too though, Like I just as a church kid,

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Speaker 3: I could not cuss. My mom would rather me bring

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Speaker 3: home a child than to cuss. Really, yes, cussing was

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Speaker 3: so bad, and you know a lot of church are

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Speaker 3: way worse. Well, what's a little baby amongst friends and family?

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Speaker 3: You have a baby, but cussing in the house. She

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Speaker 3: was like, absolutely not. And I didn't trust myself to

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Speaker 3: cuss at school and not cuss at home like most

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Speaker 3: of the church kids did. So I pretty much did

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Speaker 3: you know, I premrial sex. I just never cussed. But

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Speaker 3: don't practice bad habits, no, No, I just never I

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Speaker 3: lot of times you got to work a little bit

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Speaker 3: so you just throw it out there and it's funny.

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Speaker 3: But to answer your question, my comedy started in church,

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Speaker 3: like making people laugh in church. After church, my Grandma'd

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Speaker 3: be like, do that thing Sister Daniel's did when she

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Speaker 3: that person preached, And I would get to stay in

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Speaker 3: stuff like that. So once I realized, oh, this gets

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Speaker 3: And you know black churches where a lot of performers

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Speaker 3: real big comedian. Now he had a comedy club in Tacoma,

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Speaker 3: think that's the church gives me the performance. The club

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Speaker 3: helped me sharpen my tool. Why do you keep saying, like,

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Speaker 3: what made you keep saying the N word? Because I'm

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Speaker 3: trying not to say the N word no more? So

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Speaker 3: You know, that wasn't a cuss word to me, Like

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Speaker 2: That my mom say, sell them is saying it for

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Speaker 2: fifteen years. He's been trying to stop saying.

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Speaker 1: Hard not You know what I'm saying, it's hard not

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Speaker 3: I think as a black kid, all my friends were

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Speaker 3: So there was like the one curse word I could say.

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Speaker 3: So I said it so much.

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Speaker 1: It's always a person telling you not to say lie.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest lie. I don't want you to say.

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Speaker 1: They don't follow me out, and.

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Speaker 2: We don't get we don't say live, we don't say fat,

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Speaker 4: My mom cussed me out, like really what? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: You should have led it with that part.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I wanted to ask you about

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Speaker 2: you know, we had Big Mac Hash something producers and

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Speaker 2: he was talking about what you did during COVID. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some other things in there, but that

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Speaker 3: stream the comedy. Because we didn't have nothing to do,

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Speaker 5: Saying, We like really getting parties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like them Verse was part of the early Verses.

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Speaker 3: Back parking lot of our partner's studio, Like it was

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I flew all these comics in and I

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Speaker 3: we livestream their sets. We have like six comedians, probably

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Speaker 1: Biggest YouTube video is there to keep your.

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Speaker 3: Distance special And it was like it was like my

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Speaker 3: proudest moment to create opportunities to see black comedians put

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Speaker 3: show the comedy clubs. Like I was ask them like, yo,

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Speaker 3: it was fantastic. Dave Chappelle actually executed it first, like

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Speaker 2: So I said, you have no less than ten thousand

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Speaker 3: was it was fantastic. And now that's on Amazon. You

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Speaker 5: First of all, your partnerships go crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you had for really Amazon then, So I

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Speaker 4: was gonna ask you after that. I know you did

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Speaker 4: something with Patreon with the women in comedy because you

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Speaker 4: forgot the women a lot in the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: No, I did it. I didn't forget the women.

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Speaker 3: I made sure there was at least one black woman

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think I paid attention to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because y'all don't see black women. No, that's not

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Speaker 4: I know you from all that digital So I've seen

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Speaker 4: you work with so many women and like different people

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Speaker 4: I didn't think about that, but when I was researching

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Speaker 4: for this, I saw something in essence where you would

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Speaker 4: talk about one of your homegirls. Was like, yo, like

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Speaker 4: where the women that like? Can we like hello? And

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Speaker 4: then you did the partnership with Patreon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Patreon reached out to me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what do you want to do and

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Speaker 3: to continue my efforts to support black women because he.

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Speaker 1: Was already already like black women don't see each other.

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Speaker 1: I understand this all the time. Honestly.

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Speaker 3: The truth is the ratio of comics it's probably eight

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Speaker 3: was flying them out. At first, I was only doing

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Speaker 3: seeing how they thought about stuff, seeing how they did

436
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,280
Speaker 3: brand deals. So when I went to All Death, I

437
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 3: had all that knowledge from awesomeness, So I knew what

438
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,399
Speaker 3: I was talking about in the interview, and I actually

439
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,320
Speaker 3: knew how to do the job.

440
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 1: I just had never done the job.

441
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,119
Speaker 2: Who was your inspiration as comedians coming up?

442
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 1: Uh? Stand up wise?

443
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,440
Speaker 3: Uh? Probably my biggest was Arnest Jay's probably my favorite comedian.

444
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 3: He's just so physical. He didn't care whatever. He was

445
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,520
Speaker 3: gonna make you laugh. Sindbad was gonna make you laugh.

446
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,359
Speaker 3: He didn't cuss, But Simbad doesn't cuss, but you don't

447
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,399
Speaker 3: notice he doesn't cuss, which was what my goal was.

448
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,159
Speaker 3: I don't want you to like be like, oh, this

449
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 3: is non cussing guy's funny. I wanted people to leave

450
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 3: and be like.

451
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I even heard him cuss.

452
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,480
Speaker 3: And that's how Simbad was. Ernie Mack probably made me

453
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 3: laugh harder than I ever did his death comedy Jam special,

454
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 3: and me and my wife saw him in Kings of Comedy,

455
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 3: and that set is probably the most flawless stand upset

456
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 3: to me, Eddie Murphy as a goal of how big

457
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 3: a comedian could be. And then more recently Kevin Hart,

458
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 3: like Kevin Hart is funny, and Sony disciplines so to

459
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 3: be funny on stand up podcast, TV movies like that's

460
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 3: how I see myself with the regular conversation just interviewing. Yeah,

461
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 3: Like to me, his offhand comedy is some of his

462
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: best work.

463
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 1: Cod is Balls.

464
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: He's funny, but you get him in the interview sion

465
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 3: scenario and you realize just how funny he is.

466
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

467
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 3: So I think all those people, probably even Jonathan Slocum

468
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 3: was probably the first one, though he's a black church comedian.

469
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 3: He had a tape called laugh Yourself to Life that

470
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 3: my parents listen to all the time to and from church,

471
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 3: And that's the person who probably made me think that

472
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: you could even do stand up related to church things

473
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 3: and it could be funny. When did you start noticing

474
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: the comedy in the church, Like do you remember that

475
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 3: first thing that you saw in the church that you

476
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 3: found funny. Oh manly, there's so many things. Sister Lewis

477
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 3: was Sister Lewis in our church. She might have been

478
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 3: not laughing.

479
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: You ain't say God, bless God rest her. So I

480
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring it down.

481
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: But I'm like, she got to be about one hundred

482
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 2: and five Lewis.

483
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: God, Sister Lewis went on to be with him.

484
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 5: But it is so tabbern at.

485
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: But she worked like two jobs, but she loved church

486
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 3: and she could never stay awake, so to wake herself up,

487
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 3: she would yell out.

488
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 1: So she fell asleep.

489
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: God is amazing like that, and everybody would look me,

490
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: it's your sister Lewis. But she'd do what when you're

491
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: preaching in the most inopportune moments, she would wake up

492
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: and scream out. And I was like, nobody is saying

493
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: anything about this. So when we get home and be

494
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: like yeah, and then we'd be eating, then I'll be like, ye're.

495
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: Never Sister Lewis, God.

496
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: Is amazing and my grandma and then would bust out laughing.

497
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: And she did that from like my whole childhood, like

498
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 3: ten years straight. Nobody ever stopped her. Nobody ever said, hey,

499
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: it's okay not to come. You can, you know, rest.

500
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 3: So that's probably the first thing I noticed that was funny.

501
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: And that's the first thing I I copied.

502
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: Did you do that joking for the house? Oh? Yeah?

503
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: And she thought it was hilarious. And she could never

504
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: pronounce my name. My name is Kevin. She'd be like.

505
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: Coln and I would always be like cow. And they,

506
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 3: my family thought that was hilarious. My great grandma was hilarious.

507
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: She had a little, you know, five o'clock shadow. Yeah,

508
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 3: she was. She was big, prickly. She had George Clooney,

509
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: same beard like that. Yeah, she was bearded up.

510
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: You said you had that, dude, No, I had aunts

511
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: like that.

512
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: I had like a I don't want to call him. Well,

513
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 4: they're not here no more. Had I had great great

514
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 4: when I was younger. I remember my great great aunts

515
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 4: down in Virginia. They were all very prickly. O, this

516
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: is not supposed.

517
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 5: I always was a little confused.

518
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: Yes, so I make for my grandma like grandma, you

519
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: you got this, you got a beard. And my my my,

520
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: that was my great grandma, my grandma, my mom. My

521
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: whole family thought that was funny. We had a family

522
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: of nine in a three bedroom house. So laughter is

523
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 3: what kept us like saying, I guess. And we had

524
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: a dog too. It was like, we don't have enough

525
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: money to feed us while we got the dog. But

526
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: that was that was not unusual, you know what I'm saying.

527
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 3: So we were poor, but we didn't know we were

528
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: poor because we were full of love and laughter. And

529
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I saw the world. So that

530
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: was that was my approach.

531
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: Now, your wife has been with you, y you'all been

532
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: together twenty years. Over twenty years, twenty years.

533
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: May When I'm watching you tell your story, she's she's exciting,

534
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: Like when you said the forty dollars things, she.

535
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: Was like, y'all are one of my favorite husband and

536
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 4: wife content duo. I mean, and I know you got

537
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: your own things that you do, but like y'all together

538
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: and it's separately. It's just like like I bounced back

539
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: and forth time.

540
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Thank you. She always believed, always believed God. You both

541
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: always believed. I don't know if she.

542
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 3: Was always believing in my version of how to get

543
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: to things, because like when I went, for example, when

544
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 3: I wanted to move to La, I was like I

545
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 3: had written this whole plan that I submitted to her.

546
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: I submitted to her.

547
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Listen, we submit to each other.

548
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: So I was like, I want to move to La.

549
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: Here's my plan. And part of the plan was, let's

550
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: give our house up for foreclosure. Like, who cares, I'm

551
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 3: gonna get to La. I'm gonna get I'm gonna make

552
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: it back in cash, you know, let the house go.

553
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: Because it's during the housing crisis. I was like, everybody's

554
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: house is foreclosing. I'm gonna get it back. And she

555
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: was like, or we could rent it out. And I

556
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: was like, oh, snap, that's that's genius because it was

557
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: upside down at the time by like forty thousand dollars

558
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: and that.

559
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: Forty thousand numbers stuff a lot of money.

560
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 3: Yes, we couldn't even sell it, but we rented it

561
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: out and lo and behold, it's up over its value now.

562
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: So I think she she's helped me to steer those

563
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: things into a foreseeable thing. But she's never been like no.

564
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: Now.

565
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: The first time when I got fired from my job,

566
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: that was the first time I showed this. This is

567
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: when I got fired from Key Bank back in Washington, Jesus, how.

568
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: Many time you got about it? Once? I quit? I

569
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: quit boring here.

570
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: I got fired from Key Bank, and I deserved it,

571
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't a good employee. I was making color

572
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: copies of comedy show flyers I left there, you know,

573
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: in the glass. I was doing all type of stuff.

574
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: Have my feet on the desk. Told my era of

575
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: retail lead manager. She was like, what are your goals

576
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: here at the company? And I told this woman who

577
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: oversaw all the banks in the PG sound, I don't.

578
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't plan on working here. I'm just working here

579
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: till I make it. And she was like huh. And

580
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: I came home and told my wife that.

581
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: She was like, why would you tell that lady that?

582
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's that's the truth.

583
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: Fired ninety days from that day on the dot. Literally,

584
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: I got put on a performance in planning that next monday.

585
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: Was fired ninety days from that that monday.

586
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: Kevin moving in another direction, dreams.

587
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: That's what they told me. They were like, you don't.

588
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: The lady was like, you don't. You don't need to

589
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: be here. Somebody who needs to be at this job

590
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: needs to be here. You're not You're not focused on that,

591
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: so I forgot where I.

592
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Was going with that.

593
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 5: How your wife is your saving Oh yeah, yeah.

594
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: My wife is my saving girl.

595
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 5: Thank you.

596
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: Uh So that was when I told my wife I

597
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: don't actually want to do a job.

598
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I want to do stand up.

599
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: So she was like, well, this is the first I'm

600
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: ever hearing of this, Like how we supposed to feed

601
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: these kids because in Tacoma that wasn't a feasible option.

602
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: How many kids that time?

603
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: We had two boys, two under four. I think my

604
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: son was three and one when I got fired, or

605
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: four and two somewhere around there. And she did not believe.

606
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: She just didn't see how that was feasible. So what

607
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: she said was, let's work on a plan to get there.

608
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 3: Part of that work includes you getting a job and

609
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: show me how you can do stand up and how

610
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: that can be feasible. But until then, let's do it.

611
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: So that's what we did. We made a plan. I

612
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: went and got a job. That's how I got the

613
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: job at Boying, worked on my craft, worked my job

614
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: at Boying, then didn't stand up at night. Nates became Thursdays,

615
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: and then I would do a show on Thursday, and

616
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: then somebody else on Friday, and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

617
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: and then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And now I'm like, oh,

618
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm making not much money but a couple hundred bucks

619
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: here and there, which at that time was still a

620
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: lot of money. Still today's a lot of money. Now

621
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: comedy's paying for a bill here and there. First it

622
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: was just gum, then gas, then the cell phone bill,

623
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: then the electric bill. So then when the Internet came

624
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: in and Austin This TV offered us, offered me a

625
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: contract to write, direct, produce, shoot and edit my kids videos.

626
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: Now comedy became income and she was like, Okay, now

627
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: I can see it. So that's when we moved to LA.

628
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Works her awesomeness, got another job with Tracy Edmonds eventually

629
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 3: led to the job to Tracy.

630
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah out to Tracy. Tracy Trady don't get the credit

631
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: she deserve. She doesn't another black person. She gave us.

632
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: Actually, the fifty thousand dollars we used to move to

633
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: LA was split between the three of me and Jay,

634
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: but that's the money that we used to move to LA.

635
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: She gave us fifty thousand dollars to make ten videos

636
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: for all Right TV, which was her YouTube, her version

637
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: of like all deat Digital, which was like a faith

638
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: based thing. But then she also taught us the game, right.

639
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: She taught us everything she knew. She invited us to

640
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: the house. I ain't gonna tell your story. I ain't

641
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: gonna tell your story as a husband. There was a

642
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: great funny story there, but that's your story to tell.

643
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: She put us on the game. She kept up for

644
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: as long as she could. The company run out of money.

645
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: You want to tell the story, pull up a seat.

646
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 5: Are so good together?

647
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then all Bright TV fell apart, and

648
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: then she was like, hey guys, it did the best

649
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: I could. And she moved on, which was actually a

650
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: lessoning of itself. It's like people can help you, but

651
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: when that money ends, it's every man for themselves. Like

652
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: she it's no hard feelings, she said, brother, they no

653
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Speaker 3: more money.

654
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Speaker 1: Like I made the investment. She made the investment. She

655
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Speaker 1: moved on to her other projects.

656
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: At that point, I learned, oh, it's not even no

657
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: heart feelings, like brother, I did what I could did

658
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: we did business. I helped you as much as I could,

659
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna reach in my personal pocket to

660
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: help you like we do business together, we shake hands,

661
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: we go our separate ways, So that was very valuable.

662
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: And also shout out to her. I don't think we

663
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: would have been able to move to LA without Tracy

664
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: Edmond because we didn't have the hard cash to move families.

665
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 3: It was three families, me my family, my brother's family move,

666
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: and Ant's family all moved. We split that fifty thousand

667
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: shot and edited the videos ourselves. Kept that money, paid

668
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: off this credit card that we had that was ten

669
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: thousand dollars that was built on stupid mistakes.

670
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: I could take twenty nine percent interest. Oh I'd love

671
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: to have Tracy on Breakfast Club, but no, no, hit

672
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Speaker 1: her up.

673
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Speaker 3: She's amazing like she and I agree, she doesn't the

674
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: credit she deserves for what kind of brilliant producer she is.

675
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: And just like a solid person, like she was a

676
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: solid individual. She did more than she had to for us,

677
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: and I'm eternally grateful. Still sends us Christmas cards to

678
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: this day, Like that's how solid a person she is.

679
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to her. You know, damn I

680
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: want to.

681
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh, you know you were talking about working at Bowing,

682
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: And the reason I think that's so powerful is because

683
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: one thing I always tell people is that there's one

684
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight hours in a week. That's more

685
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: than enough time to chase your dreams and deal with

686
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: your reality. Yes, absolutely, I so boeing. I by the

687
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: grace of God, that job was very easy and didn't

688
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 3: take a lot of time. So I studied YouTube at

689
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: that time. That's when I really learned how what makes

690
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: a good video. I spent my time studying there, and

691
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: then when I left Boring in my first tour, I

692
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: worked at all death Monday through Thursday. I worked remote

693
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: on Friday, did stand up Friday in one city, another

694
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: city Saturday, another city Sunday, then flew back to la

695
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: on Monday morning and went to work Monday through Thursday

696
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: again for a whole year. Like I worked my job,

697
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: And I tell people like, you don't have to rush

698
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: to quit your job to do this, Like it should

699
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: be so obvious that you can't keep up with both.

700
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people stun their growth because

701
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: they want content to be their job so bad, and

702
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: content is up and down, like how much money U

703
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: is up and down? Brandos is up and down. That

704
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: nine to five is your first real investment into yourself

705
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: and into your company. It allows you to have health insurance,

706
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: pay your bills, and allow your money from your business, content, comedy,

707
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: whatever to be excess money as opposed to build money,

708
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: because then people get frustrated it's not the money.

709
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Then you lose creativity because you're.

710
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: Worried about survival and as you and you gotta survive first.

711
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: So if your stability is rocky, creativity can't flow if

712
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: you can't think about I'm hungry, where am I gonna eat?

713
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: Where am I gonna sleep? So once that's taken care of,

714
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: then you can flow creatively. In my opinion, and I

715
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: was not afraid to work hard, so at Boing, I

716
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: would go to the breakroom and find a nondescript wall

717
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: and make my video, or walk all the way to

718
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: my car on my lunch break, make a video, shoot it, edit,

719
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: edit it, post it, and then go back to my job.

720
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: Never talked about none of my videos. I wasn't gonna

721
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: make the same mistake. I made a key bank, and

722
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: I took that money and built my comedy career on

723
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: the internet and stand up.

724
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: And worked that regular job. All at the same time.

725
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: I see that your YouTube channel is Kevi on stage studios.

726
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two. I have Kevi on stage, which

727
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: was the first one. Then I have Kevin on stage

728
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: studios as well.

729
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: At what point did you understand why you needed Kevi

730
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: on stage studios? Do you get what I'm saying.

731
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was actually there was I don't know

732
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: if y'all remember this, but Logan Paul went to this

733
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: suicide forest in Japan. Yeah, and they called what people

734
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: called the ad apocalypse. Everybody's revenue dropped. All these advertisers

735
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: pulled their money out of YouTube. So that's the first

736
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: thing that I realized. I was like, oh, this can

737
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: go away. And the second thing that happened there was

738
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: some sort of like child trafficking pedophile situation on YouTube,

739
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: and they had they were like doing these playlists in

740
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: finding kids, like basically kids doing innocuous things, going swimming,

741
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: and they would put like numbers in the comments. So

742
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: basically everybody who had children on their channel, all their

743
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: comments got blocked, right, and that kills the engagement, kills

744
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: the views. So in order to get comments back, I

745
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: started Kevin Stage Studios just to keep the engagement back

746
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: right and also to get rid of that. Logan Paul situation.

747
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I saw a new channel. It'll

748
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: be getting different ads, and then I realized, I'll just

749
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: do long form content kevil on Stage studios and things

750
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: that are not just me and Kevi on stage will

751
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: just be my personal point of view. So Kevil on

752
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: Stage Studios actually is much more of a healthy channel,

753
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: even with less subscribers, because that's where I put my podcasts.

754
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Shout out to that chick Angel and Joshi,

755
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: they're my co host. And here's the thing. When we

756
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: were doing bigger shows, I would put them on Kevil

757
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: on Stage studios and things like that. So that was

758
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: really the difference. So people know, if you just want me,

759
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: it's Kevin stage. You want me, or other people or

760
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: things that don't have me, then that would be Kevin's

761
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: Stage Studios. Which is my goal eventually to be able

762
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: to produce content for other people, not just for myself

763
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: or not featuring myself. So that's what Kemon Statee Studios came.

764
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Speaker 1: Don't looks like him and Drewsy could be like brothers.

765
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: Get a lot absolutely that, No, didn't die.

766
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: All the time, Juiceky was bald, and you know we're

767
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: both heavier set individuals. So I do get that a lot,

768
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: and also get that I look like a lot of people.

769
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: People like, look at this person like you, keV. If

770
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: you light skinning beard, nobody famous, you know what I'm saying,

771
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Just a lot of there's a lot of light skinned,

772
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: bald men with beards, and pretty much anybody who looks

773
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: like that, they'd be like, you look like keV.

774
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: You and Juicy definitely got.

775
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: A yeah something Yeah. Shout out to Juice ky Man.

776
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: He's an amazing, amazing talent, just cultural anthropologists through comedy.

777
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely all the time.

778
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: He has a way of capturing culture through his yeah

779
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: sketches one thousand percent, and it's not just black culture.

780
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: He I first saw Hi when he was doing Kyle

781
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: Rogert for frat videos and I.

782
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: Went to a PWI.

783
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to Washington University of Washington, and I

784
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: was like, them white boys be just like that, and

785
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: you almost forget he's acting like he is the black

786
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: dude in that white fraternity, Like we knew those guys.

787
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: But you know, the the Yan videos, the London video Tide, Yeah,

788
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: roll Tide, Like he look he could be a really

789
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: good comedic actor. I think he has the ability and creatively,

790
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: it's just genius to me. Like what he's done with

791
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: the Internet is amazing, very impressive. The life from the

792
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: back pew, Yeah, why'd you call it the back pew.

793
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: The back pew, the backpew tour.

794
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: I called it that because, like I wanted to differentiate

795
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: my style of humor versus like just church humor, because

796
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of reverence and you know, there's a

797
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: lot of sacrilege in church. I was a kid who

798
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: was in church every not just Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

799
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: We literally were in Bible study, evangelistical service, prayer, choir, rehearsal,

800
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: then church and we always had a sittle, a black pew,

801
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: and the back pew was like we in church, but

802
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: we also plan, you know what I'm saying. So the

803
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: way we saw stuff, that's like the vision I had

804
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: of church was from the back pew. You had to go.

805
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: You don't have to sit in the front. You didn't

806
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: always have to participate in every service, but you had

807
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: to go. And so my mom actually maybe participate, but

808
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: I had to play drums or singing the choir, gir

809
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. But the back pew is

810
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: so people know, like, I'm gonna be in church, but

811
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be every joke's not gonna be about church.

812
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: I have a whole set segment where I just talk

813
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: about regular stuff. I knew want of people to know

814
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: it's for church kids, but black people. Even if you

815
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: didn't grow up in church, you have a concept of

816
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: black church. But even never been to church, you can

817
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: still come to this show because if you've only been once,

818
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: you might probably sat on the back pew. So I

819
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: wanted people to have an idea of what show they

820
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: were coming to, so they would know, like, it's not

821
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: gonna be every joke about God, but it's also not

822
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: gonna be so ridiculous that you're like, I shouldn't even

823
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: be in the church. So I kind of walked that line.

824
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: So that's why I call it Life from the back People.

825
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: Are you trying to get people into the church with

826
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: your comedy? I believe that is probably one of my

827
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: subconscious goals. I don't think that's the intent, but I

828
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: feel like it is my way where I feel like

829
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different types of ministries. There's music,

830
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: there's preaching, there's pastoring, and I think comedy is one

831
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: because a lot of black people are hurt by the church.

832
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: They have negative feelings about the church, and like, man,

833
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: this take, it's only fifty bucks and it's keV. Maybe

834
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: maybe I'll give it one more shot and then they

835
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: if they just come in and don't have a negative experience,

836
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: maybe they'll be interested in coming back. So I think

837
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: that's probably one of my sub goals, is to just

838
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: do my part, you know what I'm saying. Because black

839
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: church number, church in general numbers are dwindling, especially post COVID,

840
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: and I don't want the Black church to not exist anymore.

841
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: So I think absolutely that's probably part of my goal.

842
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: I think it's because of the Internet too, though, Like

843
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 3: I do bedside Baptists every Sunday, I'm in a Potter House

844
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: on Sunday morning.

845
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't think you negative.

846
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: I think the pandemic made people realize, oh, I can

847
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: actually watch church from here and a lot of and

848
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: listen Potter's House Transformation Church. They have top tier production,

849
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: like you feel like you're watching TV. It's not just

850
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: like one guy the back with an iPhone like they have.

851
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: They have the whole team hundreds of thousand dollars in

852
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: sound equipment, video equipment, top of the line production staff

853
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: and services, their internets, Instagram social media is up to

854
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: par like any NFL team as well. So I do agree,

855
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: Like I don't think you have to physically go in

856
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: the church anymore. I think there's so many different ways

857
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: to engage with people the Bible app, YouTube, like Pastor

858
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: Yepj's one my favorite preachers, and I engage with him

859
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: on Instagram in two to three minute bits. Sarah Jake Roberts,

860
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: who I know you're a fan of. She's great online

861
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: on digital. I think she's actually so important to the

862
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: Black Church because especially how her journey started and where

863
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: it is now, Like a lot of people need to

864
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: see the Sarah Jakes Roberts at the poolpit, person who

865
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: wasn't perfect and who was outcast like I was growing

866
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: up remembering how people were talking about her, so to

867
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: see where she is now and the fact that she doesn't,

868
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, shy away from her past, and how good

869
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: she is at speaking and communicating you know, God's word.

870
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: I think she's super important, but also be simone's an

871
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: important voice right like her turning to God, my niece

872
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: is a hood little sweet baby, and she got a

873
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: face tattooed, and she she loves be Someone's comedy. So

874
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: when Be Simone says I'm giving my life to Christ,

875
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: my niece sees herself in more Be Simone than Sarah

876
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: Jake's or TD Jakes. So I think everybody's journey is important,

877
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: not just the pastors. It's everybody has a role to play.

878
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: So I just want to play my role and do

879
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: my part. Now I love it because, you know, I

880
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: feel like we got to bring I know this sounds crazy,

881
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: but you got to bring God. You gotta meet people

882
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: where they are basic. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,

883
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, you can't just think people are going to

884
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: come into the church or go on YouTube. And there's

885
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: certain people like yourself, like Sarah Jakes who know how

886
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: to connect with culture. You know, Like I got Sarah

887
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: Jake's headlining the Black Effects Podcast Festival that I do

888
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: every years on April twenty six, and it's for that

889
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: reason because I know she knows how to connect with coaching. Absolutely,

890
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: I think you need people who speak that language. I believe.

891
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what really messed me up. As

892
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: a young Christian, I thought we were all playing by

893
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: the same rules. Like they said we're not drinking, were

894
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 3: really not drinking, and nobody's drinking, right, So I'm thinking

895
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: that's the truth. And then I'm not even talking about

896
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: the church. I'm talking about my actual family. I remember

897
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: I was eighteen, came back, I went to visit my

898
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: grandma's and there was some zemas in the refrigerator. I

899
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: was like, yo, it's demas. We don't drink, and my

900
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: aunt was like, you don't drink.

901
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: I was like, what, No, our whole life it was this.

902
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: She was like, well, we don't talk about it, but

903
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: keV come on, we drink. And then when I started

904
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: working in the church, I realized pastors are like, well,

905
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: this is how I live my life, but I don't

906
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: want to mess up to the flock, so I do this.

907
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: And I think most people's problem a lot of problems

908
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: with Christianities. People have one life they live as a

909
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: Christian and one life they actually live.

910
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: So I refused to live two separate lives.

911
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: So I got in trouble with the Christian community because

912
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: I went to the reunion concert which was at the Forum,

913
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: and I was drinking and I made a realio brother

914
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: of Kirk, Franklin, Delana and the Addams. They were at

915
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 3: the Forum and I was drinking. I made a video.

916
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm drinking it at

917
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: the gospel concert. This is incongruent. And I was I

918
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: thought it was funny and they were so, man.

919
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: How dare you drink? How dare you?

920
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: I was like this, this is at the Forum. Like

921
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: I saw Bruno martinet two weeks ago. The line was

922
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: long at the bar. She said, oh my god, it

923
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: was water thirty seconds ago, but now it's wine. Jesus, Yeah,

924
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: I didn't think of that. But I'm like, I'm not

925
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: gonna act like I don't drink. You don't like I'm

926
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: not gonna present one way and then be a different person.

927
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna act like I don't say nigga. Because

928
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: the people be like that behind the scenes, behind the

929
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: pool pit, but they think people can't take it, so they,

930
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: you know, they present one way. So now you have

931
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: two different versions of people that are there. And I

932
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: was I was a kid, you know, when I was

933
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: young and saved. My whole Christianity was trying to be

934
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: more saved than everybody else. That's how I found my Christianity.

935
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: That's what I was taught even forget like sinners more

936
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: save than other save people. So I've let all that go.

937
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: This is how I live my life. I'm a Christian

938
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: who's also come to be not a Christian comedian. And

939
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: the difference there is, like, I don't every joke's not

940
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: gonna be about God, church and all that type of stuff,

941
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: because what I've learned is even if you do that,

942
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: it's still not gonna be enough because some people don't

943
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: think you should make jokes about God at all. So

944
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: you'll never be saved enough, You'll never be good enough.

945
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: So forget it. I'm just gonna live my life, do

946
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: my thing. If you like it, you like it. If

947
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: you don't, you don't. You know man, the reason I

948
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: love that, and I just thought about this for whatever reason,

949
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: I often wonder, like how much can faith stifle somebody's

950
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: creativity Because.

951
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: God gave you these gifts?

952
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then if you look at the structure of religion,

953
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: the structured religion, it'll make you think like you're not

954
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: supposed to express those gifts. But what if I express

955
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 3: those gifts for God one thousand percent. That's why PJ.

956
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: Morton was so instrumental in me as a comedian, because

957
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: he had that exact problem. He wrote a book called

958
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: why Can't I Sing About Love? Because he's played the keyboard.

959
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: His dad's a big Bishop, Paul Morton Senior, so he's

960
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: supposed to be a preacher. But he was like, I

961
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: don't want to be, nor do I think that's my gift.

962
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: I want to sing R and B. I want to

963
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: sing about love. So he wrote a book He's saying

964
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 3: about R and B. He got a lot of flack

965
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: from the church, but he's still and did his thing.

966
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: End up being in room five and still did his thing.

967
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: And he also wrote gospel. And when I was getting fired,

968
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: he wrote the song called let Go and Let God

969
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: that Dwayne would sing, and I listened to it every

970
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: single day because I'm like, I'm about to lose. I

971
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: make jokes about it now, but in the real time,

972
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I don't know how to pay

973
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: my mortgage. Like our life was built off two incomes.

974
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: So I realized that everybody's gift isn't necessarily used in

975
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: the church the church building, but that doesn't mean it's

976
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: not used for God right. Jasmine Sullivan was almost signed

977
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: to a gospel label. I think that would have been

978
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: a waste of her talents. I think she belongs in

979
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 3: R and B and the story she tells Hotels album

980
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite albums.

981
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: Love that album needs to be heard the way it is.

982
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I think it would have been not I don't want

983
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: to say a way so I'd be too harsh. But

984
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: I think she's doing what she should be doing better

985
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: for a gift. It's a better fit for her gifts.

986
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: And I think God expresses himself in creativity in all disciplines, scientists, chef's.

987
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Painters like.

988
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't all have to be in the church, artists like,

989
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: there's so many different ways. I don't think you need

990
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: to force it into the building of the church. You

991
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: can still give back your gift to God by expressing

992
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: it however it however it comes out. So I think

993
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: that's what I do. And I think it's dope that

994
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: I can go from the church to a comedy club

995
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: to a theater. My goal is still to perform Madison

996
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: Square Garden Like, I don't want to perform at churches only,

997
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: but I want to perform at church because that's how

998
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: I grew up and it's a good time. And I

999
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: can also charge less for tickets because it's not as

1000
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: expensive as working with you know, the big three promoters,

1001
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: Like I could just charge you direct there's no parking issues,

1002
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: so there's also benefits to the consumer. But I think, yeah,

1003
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: the whole goal is to create and express yourself creatively,

1004
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: but that doesn't always have to end up being in.

1005
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 4: A church because you're going actually into churches? Are you

1006
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: do you? Like are you asking whye be? Like, hey,

1007
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: is this Joe going to offend? Like are you more careful?

1008
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: Because I've never really seen you get in too much

1009
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 4: shoggle for your jos and you have like one little

1010
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: incident with the the cosplayed girl. Yeah yeah, yeah that

1011
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: and you apologize for that. Sure, Like what is your like,

1012
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: what's that process? Because the church people about church get.

1013
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, believe forgiveness that will cancel.

1014
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 5: Forget the right church forgiveness.

1015
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: But I think because I grew up in church, I

1016
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: tell this joke but it's actually not a joke. But

1017
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: the first thirty years of my life, I only miss

1018
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: Sunday service three times. One was like y two K

1019
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: one because we're moving, And probably the other one was

1020
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: because I was born that week. But other than that,

1021
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: I was in church. So being in church all that much,

1022
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: I understand the rules of politics where the line is,

1023
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: how to navigate it. Like what you can say on

1024
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 3: Sunday morning isn't what you can say on Wednesday, isn't

1025
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: what you can say on a comedy show, isn't what

1026
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: you can say. If it's a marriage, you know, enrichment.

1027
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: If it's just married couples, you can get away with

1028
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: almost anything. If it's in the church, because we marry,

1029
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: you know, marriage better is underfiled. So living in that

1030
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: world and being a part of that world has taught

1031
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: me what the line is more than anything else. I

1032
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: think if you didn't grow up there, you won't know

1033
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: what the line is and what you can and can't say,

1034
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: because it, like in comedy, that line is ever changing.

1035
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: So I think that my upbringing is what allows me

1036
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: to navigate it so well.

1037
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: And congratulations church you got picked up.

1038
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Churchy got picked up for season two BT plus

1039
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: shout out to spring Hill, Jamal Henderson Leslie. They were

1040
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: very instrumental in getting that picked up. On season one

1041
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: and season two So we just finished production on that

1042
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: in January. We're editing it now and it'll be out,

1043
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: I believe in June or July. And similar to you know,

1044
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: keep your distance, my goal there is to not only

1045
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: tell my churchy story right, because to me, there wasn't

1046
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: an authentic story about Church from a person who grew

1047
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: up in church. You can always tell because they always

1048
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: have in Hollywood, they always have pipe organs and pipe organs.

1049
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: Do not know Black Church has a pipe organ. It's

1050
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: a hamm and B three organ. If there's an organ,

1051
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: they don't even really make them anymore like they used to.

1052
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: So if you hear that pipe organ and they have

1053
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: the choir robes on them, like y'all not paying attention

1054
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: to Church no more. People don't even wear choir robes

1055
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: like that. But same thing I did with stand Up

1056
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: is what I did with Churchie, giving actors opportunities that

1057
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: they hadn't got Mark jp Hood, brilliant actor, hadn't had

1058
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: a chance to lead in this season. We got Quinn Walters,

1059
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: who's been acting but she always gets cast as like

1060
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: the sultry it's a ductress, but she's hilarious, So in

1061
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: this role she's playing funny to hear more. Comedian friend

1062
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: of mine who went on tour me for two years,

1063
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: three years.

1064
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant actor.

1065
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 3: He's been like four episodes of Abbot Elementary takes acting

1066
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: very seriously, so he's a good actor. Better actor than

1067
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: I am by a lot. He's in there. Love JJP

1068
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Jasmine Love another actor who start off as an influencer

1069
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: in Hollywood hasn't given her her role where she could

1070
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: be an actor in a series regular, So because of churches.

1071
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: She's got that Lexi who's a brilliant gospel artist. Melissa

1072
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: her first car. We used to play Lexi's music. But

1073
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: she's actually a brilliant actress as well. She's in there.

1074
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: Tabitha Brown pulled up for four or five episodes this season.

1075
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Speaker 3: Tony Baker, comedian friend of mine. All these people can act.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's my brother. That is my dog. Anthony

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Speaker 3: Alfonsi a brilliant actor. So all these people are getting

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Speaker 3: an opportunity through me. And that's just in front of

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Speaker 3: the camera. Behind the camera. Jared who is our director.

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Speaker 3: This is his first time directing some TV series. He's

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Speaker 3: got this incubator with Jordan Peel that he's a part

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Speaker 3: of Rich Washington, who works for me now used to

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Speaker 3: work for CIA. He was on an agent's desk working

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Speaker 3: in TV department reading movie scripts all day for years.

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Speaker 3: He was like, called me one day he was on

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Speaker 3: my team when I was with CIA. He was like,

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Speaker 3: I want to I think I want to quit my

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Speaker 3: job and come work for you and help you build

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Speaker 3: Kevin on Stage Studios and he was instrumental in season two.

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Speaker 3: He helped write season two. Sydney Castile comedian friend of

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Speaker 3: mine wrote season one with me, but black women behind

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Speaker 3: the camera, black women in sound, black women, costume designers,

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Speaker 3: makeup artist hair all. I hired his many black people

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Speaker 3: as I possibly could, because to me as big of

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Speaker 3: a problem in Hollywood, racism is a huge problem. Nepotism

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Speaker 3: is much more dangerous because nepotism, they're not even thinking

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna exclude you. It's who am I gonna hire.

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Speaker 3: It's who I know and who's in my network. Who

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Speaker 3: If I need a podcast person, I hit Charlomagne, He's

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Speaker 3: more than likely gonna hit a black podcaster. If I

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Speaker 3: hit you for a DJ, you're more like because that's

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Speaker 3: just who you know. You're not thinking let me exclude

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Speaker 3: white people. You're thinking of who do I know? And

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Speaker 3: that's how Hollywood works. Then people go to AFI and

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Speaker 3: you get in there and they hire the people they

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Speaker 3: went to school with. So at all deaf, I realize

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Speaker 3: I can hire black people because that's my network, and

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Speaker 3: that's my goal is to hire as many black people

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Speaker 3: as humanly possible. It's give as many opportunities as possible

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Speaker 3: and then let people go and be im. That's probably

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Speaker 3: the best thing I learned from Russell Simmons was don't

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Speaker 3: try to hold onto people's talent. Don't like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: gave you this opportunity, so I'm gonna hold you here

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Speaker 3: like he let Will Smith go from man him and

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Speaker 3: he blossomed. So I learned like, however long we can

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Speaker 3: work together, let's work together. But if you get if

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Speaker 3: you blow up, blow up, I'm not going to take

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Speaker 3: credit for your work because I didn't create you. Trevor

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Speaker 3: Wallace is a huge white comedian.

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Speaker 1: Huge.

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Speaker 3: He was my intern at all death uh. He ran

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Speaker 3: social media. He blew past me and I'm like, brother,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, do your thing. Josh was my intern as well.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get me a turkey sandwich want to ask

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Speaker 3: him on the first day.

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Speaker 4: So many people came from that all dev digital space,

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Speaker 4: though it was when I first went to LA that

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Speaker 4: was like, you have.

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Speaker 5: To work with all digital if you're going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Reasons Yeah, smoking reasons. He did doctor reasons there. He

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Speaker 3: actually shout out to him. He was in My Boy's

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Speaker 3: first skit Where's My Milk on Austin's TV, which was

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Speaker 3: huge for us. But yeah, that was like our version

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Speaker 3: of in Living Color. Obviously very different, but digital media wise,

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Speaker 3: that was like where the black culture was for that

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Speaker 3: period of time. People still run up to me talk

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Speaker 3: about Roast Me. I've been on Roast Me in five

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Speaker 3: six years. But people watch YouTube like I watch old

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Speaker 3: episodes of the Office or Different World. People watch old

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Speaker 3: episodes of Roast Me in Great Taste like they just

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Speaker 3: came out, so that you know, continues to help those

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Speaker 3: people even today. Well, Congratulations always said what you build

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Speaker 3: only benefits you.

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Speaker 1: It's not big enough. Yeah, you building some big things.

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Speaker 1: Break you. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Kevi on stage, ladies and gentlemen, and how can they

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Speaker 2: follow you?

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Speaker 3: Kevi on stage everywhere, whatever platform you're on, search Kevi

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Speaker 3: on stage, I should pull up all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you. It's Kevin on stage. Appreciate your Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club