WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 9 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:09.680 It is Monday, August nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.960 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans. Hey 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.279 now a guy who doesn't have a four year plan 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.200 or a one year plan tonight, it's a two hour plan. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:29.240 J P Cha, that's indeed correct. Welcome in. It's Jaguars 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.600 Happy Hour on a Monday. For the first time since 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.120 January four. We're back, baby, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.720 Tony Boselli coming up. We've got a busy program ahead. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:44.400 The Jags training camp practices continue tomorrow and Urban Meyer's 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.680 first NFL camp, and we are in the midst of 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.680 preseason Week one. The Jaguars entertained the Cleveland Browns this 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.560 Saturday night at t I A A. Bank Field. Camp 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.400 battles continue. I'm sure Tony has some thoughts about the 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.560 offensive line spot and someone of positions. We have plenty 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.959 of social media questions. People have been clamoring to get 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.080 their questions in for Pete and Tony, and we'll go 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.880 around the National Football League. Tony Boselli is with me 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:16.200 here in studio. Pete Frisco is not He's down in 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.960 South Florida. But uh boy, it's great to see you 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.880 both again. Guys. What's up Tony? Oh doing good? To 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:32.520 the seat? One minute, Tony? One minute to get to 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.679 your seat? Did you get to your seat? Al right? 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:40.080 Drake to sell, I feel like we're at practice. Wait 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.320 a second. I mean I might need that. That might 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:48.640 help me a little direction, A little direction, one less 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.680 thing to think about, think about. I mean, Pete, you 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.400 mock it a little bit. I like it. It's organized detail. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.400 You might act you might actually need it for this show. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.240 By the way, how many times last year a p 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.800 was he like wandering away and paying no attention right 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.840 before this show today? Pete? I mean he literally sat 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.680 in the chair ten seconds before the show started on time, 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:16.360 baby time. I don't know, man, Well, I mean, Pete, 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.919 you're a practice. You don't like the the loudspeaker, the 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:25.200 uh P A counting down thirty seconds next, drill hydrate, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:32.440 hydrate hydrate ten nine. Hey, I mean I can only imagine. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.400 I'm sure as a veteran, you know, you know, we 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.920 would have fun with it. But the one thing I 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:43.000 do appreciate, and I've been super impressed, Um, they were 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.959 in a tight camp. It is organized and everyone knows 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.240 exactly where to go, when to be there, move movement before, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.440 in between drills, not a lot of waste time, Pete. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:57.280 It reminds me a little bit of Tom. I mean 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.560 Tom was Yeah, practices are crisp. I get give them that. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.960 They they moved, they get it moving, they do it 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.600 the right way. I just you know me, Tony, I'm 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.520 a little old school. I don't. I mean, you don't 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.919 need that microphone out there. You get a horn in 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.320 a whistle, I mean, come on it, just like it 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.280 took me a long time to get used to music 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.400 on the practice here, which I still don't like, by 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.400 the way. Um, I just, I just I'm old school. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.239 I want to I want to see the coach. Coach 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.280 blow the whistle, blow the horn. Yeah, there's no music 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.080 out there. There's some music. It's not as loud as 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.160 the music is not as loud. I mean, you know 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.839 they want to save some ear drums. That's fine, I'll 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.880 still beat. It reminds It reminds me of Tom when 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.920 I remember when I was a rookie, and I mean 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.000 my whole time here while there was no one counting down, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.680 there might as well be because it was Tom screaming 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.040 to get to the next drill and that buzzer went 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.080 off and you better be moving. Yeah. I just still 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.920 the Urbans the type to scream at the top of 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.640 his lungs like he's not gonna be doing that. Well, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.240 if it wasn't, it wasn't. If it wasn't tom My 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.240 Mike maser late Mike Maser Um who passed away a 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.440 few years ago, my offensive line coach. He was in 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.880 your ear making sure And I'll never forget that first 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.360 the first minigam buzzer went off and you're looking around 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.480 and you better be spritting to the next you know, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.039 the next spot. And it reminds me a little bit 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.719 of that very organized Um. And the other thing that 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.760 jumped out at me from practice is Urban's involvement, Like 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.320 if anyone was questioning his energy level, his passion, you know, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.919 that was a lot of talk like making the transition 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.480 to the pro game, you know, coming out of the booth. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.120 You know he had the health issues in the past 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.719 where you're gonna get you know, Urban at his best. Well, 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:47.320 so far he's answered that question because it is full energy, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:53.359 ton of you know, juice and him involved participating, you know, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.760 working with guys one on one um in the middle 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.839 of the drills, like like in the middle of the drills, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.200 in running around. I agree. I agree that was impressive 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.120 that he does. Anybody who questions his energy level in 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.640 terms of being involved in being active that that that 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.640 was misguided. I don't. I don't see that at all. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.640 But I will say this, the only three people in 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.320 the city of Jacksonville who aren't a coach on that 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.719 staff for us three. I mean, how do you coach four? 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.599 Two in the field is Fault it's new and Peter, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.640 it's the new NFL. Every player has a coach. You 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.919 have your personal coach, they say. Listen, they said it 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.800 was gonna be all about the players. My goodness, it 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.240 is every guy. Everybody's got their own personal athletic trainer too. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:41.080 I mean, there's more trainers and equipment guys and coaches 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.640 and strength coaches. And you can't get right here. You're 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.279 not getting right anywhere. That I've been doing this for 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.320 a long time and I travel around the league, and 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.920 I don't ever remember seeing that many people on a 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.719 practice field. I don't. Everybody has jaguars garb on the 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.880 entire field is full of it. No, there's a lot 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.799 of people. It'll be interesting to see it because stuff. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.159 You wonder how many of those will disappear once camp's over. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.080 But if you look at the list of coach, I mean, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.080 there's a bunch of coaches and you have multiple linebacker coaches, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:20.240 multiple secondary coaches. I think your nickel coach, I mean, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.119 you have I'm waiting for the you know, I'm waiting 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.320 for the day where there's a tackle coach, guard coach, 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:31.400 center coaching. It just I mean, you know, you get 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.039 away with that at Alabama. You do that at Alabama. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.520 Do that to college because he does it. You know, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.200 he starts the rules by making guys voluntary coaches or whatever. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.400 But in the NFL, you gotta pay those guys. Guys 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.160 are getting paid. That's a big expense. Kudos to set 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.560 Kahn for doing it. I mean, urban's you know, I'm 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.040 kidding around about the sort of about the microphone. You're 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.640 not long bit for me. Come on, you know me 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.440 better than that. Every time the cell he's not in 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.320 his chair in the chair ton he was only good 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.720 in the jaire. But he does he is moving this 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.440 team in the right direction in a lot of ways. Though, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.960 I mean, get if they get the practice facility, that's 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.160 something they needed for a long time. That there's a 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.840 lot of things moving in the right direction. So kudos 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.560 in for that. But you know me, I'm gonna stick 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.600 to the old school stuff. Well, you know, if if 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.840 and let's hope they are, if he's successful, you'll know 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.800 that more, more and more teams will go with everyone, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.679 but Belichick will go with more and more coaches. You've 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.760 already seen it. I mean, I know other places, Pete, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:40.400 maybe not to the extent here, but literally not like 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.960 they hire because I know the guy they hired. I'm 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.400 not going to mention the place, but they said they 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.920 hired the well not name names. Now, come on, it 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.520 was he was the Nickel coach. Like wait, like like 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:55.080 just Nickel, Yeah, coaches Nichols. I'm like, okay, I mean 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.880 I guess you know, well that is a starting position. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.520 Come on, it's it's a part of the say, once 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.360 upon a time, Pete, there was a secondary coach that 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.120 coach safeties and corners and nickel and everything else, and 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.160 an assistant secondary coach. And now they got a safety 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.080 coach and yeah, I mean it's it's and you have 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.960 inside linebacker coach outside, linebacker, coach, assistant inside. And let's 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.720 be real. If he wins and isn't going to be 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.080 because of the coaches he has, or the horse showing 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.680 or the new this, it's gonna because of his quarterback. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.240 But before we get to the we'll spend plenty of 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.440 time on Trevor. But my point is this is a 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.320 copycat league, and if it's successful, you'll see more and 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.719 more teams do it again, everyone but Belichick. Belichick is 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.920 the one guy who's still coaching. Like when I coach, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.559 you have one coach here, one coach there, your coordinator 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.480 if you even name a coordinator, coordinators, coach, coach in 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.160 a position possibly And this is this is different. This 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.880 is this is where the NFL is going. Let's get 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.920 your body a lot of abouties out there in the 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.240 middle of that stretching lot. That's right. Holy cow, it's chaotic. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.960 I get nervous watching the stretching line because there's people 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.040 run around, throwing football's, high fiving each other. I mean, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.719 there's a lot going on. It's like an assembly line. You, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.360 I mean there's a coordination to that. See it great 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.120 to see you have a good practice, up and back 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:18.920 and up and back. By the time you've done stretching, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.040 two guys have talked to you. Yeah, that's right. Let's 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.480 review the weekend Urban Meyers first NFL training camp. They 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.120 had a scrimmage Saturday in the final open practice on 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.920 the Drink Finders Homes practice complex and then moved into 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.440 the stadium Sunday, took the pads off and did a 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.840 mock game, working on scenarios and situations in front of 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:42.720 over fifteen thousand inside the stadium Sunday morning. Trevor Lawrence. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.880 We heard from the Jaguars quarterback after that practice. He 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.199 enjoyed being in the bank, but having the fans out 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.600 here is always awesome. Um, just really excited for this season, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.680 and you tell there's just a lot of energy around here. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.720 So we're we're pumped. We've had a great camp and 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.559 it was fun to have a little scrimmage day in 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.000 front of some of the fans. Good to hear from Trevor, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.840 and I'm not sure if we're gonna hear from him 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.760 before preseason week one. We'll get to the playing and 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.840 the all that coming up. But they were in the 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.760 stadium Tony on Sunday morning. Yeah, and you know, a 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.360 little bit of backlash, probably the maybe the maybe the 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:21.680 first like negative fan reaction to UM the Urban Meyer era, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.000 you know, because it was positioned and communicated forever that 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.200 Saturday or Sunday was going to be a scrimmage for 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.880 all the fans that come see And when you think 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.800 of scrimmage, you think of pads and hitting and getting 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.360 after it and kind of your first and because historically 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.400 that's what's happened, there's been once you know, whether it's 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.160 a Saturday night scrimmage or Sunday afternoon or whatever, it 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.840 doesn't matter. Like a big dress rehearsal and r there 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.600 in a big moment and fans come out and last minute, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.400 at Leastaway's described to me is last minute. You know, 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.520 Urban decided to take the pads off and make it 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.880 more of a you know, it wasn't full speed, but 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.880 like go through and get some game situations. It was 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.880 a good to Chris practice, nothing wrong with it, but 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:07.760 much different UM than the fans were expecting. And any time, listen, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.679 this is the entertainment business. Anytime you're in the business 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.719 like this and you set expectations and don't mean that 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.000 you're gonna hear about it. And boy, it was on 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.800 talk radio day. My I was my text was blowing 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.040 up from people and my point was, I get it. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.400 I get the fans being disappointed because you again, the 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.120 question is why couldn't you do what you did on 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.280 Saturday on Sunday because that was a scrimage. That's what 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.520 we want to see. And you know you there's in 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.959 the frustration is fine, But at the end of the day, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.760 Urban Meyer's job is to make sure his team is 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.640 ready for Saturday, this first preseason game, and even more importantly, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.720 is ready for the opener when they fly to Houston 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.880 and be ready for that game. And so from what 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.440 I understand and what I heard is like, listen, you 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.200 had a couple of people nicked up a little bit 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.880 on Saturday. Urban with his coaching staff and probably the 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.560 medical staff and the strange staff, all got together and said, hey, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.800 let's look at this and let's evaluate what what is 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.520 best for our team. Maybe hindsight, we could have done different, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.960 but we're here now, this is where we are, so 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.480 let's make the right decision for the team. And that 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.680 decision was made. And he knows his team better than anybody. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.679 You hire him as your head coach. You hire him 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.160 as the czar, the leader of this football organization. You 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.040 have to trust them, and he made he made the 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.080 decision what was best is to take the pads off, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.800 give them, give them guys a little bit of a 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.240 break after a really physical day of the day before 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.720 and uh, especially going into the first preseason week. So 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.720 I get it. I'm actually I actually get both sides. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.440 And at the end of the day, J P. Pete, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.839 does anyone care a week from now if they come 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.319 out and everyone sees Trevor Lawrence and they have a 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.240 couple of good series or they get out there and hit, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.600 and does anyone care if they go into Houston after 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.160 they go in to Houston and get, you know, an 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:02.199 opening season win, No one's gonna care. I cared. I cared. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.080 You don't want to care? Could I? I nestled in 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.440 to watch it yesterday on online and they cut it off. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:12.240 There was nothing zero I wanted to watch. I get 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.559 to see it, but it didn't. Erman's job is to 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.440 what get his team ready. I get it. Tony and 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.480 I have no problem. If he thought they were too 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.120 physical on Saturday and I felt that he needed to 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.680 pull back on Sunday. I have I respect that. I 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.440 respect that decision, But why didn't you flop the days? Now, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.400 this is a question that we don't know. If you're 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.440 gonna be physical, why didn't you be physical on Sunday? 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.840 Isn't too close to the game on Saturday this week? 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.040 You know what I mean? But but okay, And the 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.040 answer to that question is he should have flopped the 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.600 days and taken care of the fans. You know what 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.880 it says though, it shows who's in charge across the board, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.760 because if you're a marketing guy on that team you're 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.360 not happy with what happened yesterday, you can't be I 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.760 had people griping at me on Twitter. They were mumbling 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.840 and growing in him and people out of town they 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.719 say they were gonna are not in tab but they 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.679 were like insane, August you or whatever. They said they 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.960 were gonna come. And then decided no, I'll watch it 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:10.120 on online and then you watch you know, Brian Sexton 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.600 and and Bucky Brooks talk for an hour and then 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.000 it went away. I wanted to watch football listen. I was. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.880 It was we're on the We're on the air for 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.720 two hours, try talk and do a walk through peat 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.720 for two hours. I mean, it was just And here's 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.400 here's my one big problem with it. This is a 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:33.280 team trying to grant the fan base again, pull him in, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.320 grant them, pull him in. And I know winning ultimately 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.880 does that, but I hear the ticket sales are good, 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.520 really good, but they're not where they're they should be 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.560 based on everything that's happened in the off season, So 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.320 why not use it as an opportunity. Not only that, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:52.160 here's the other part of that. The scrimmage was great, correct, Okay, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.840 people who can't afford to go two games during the season. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.400 That's how you bring new fans in. You know. It's 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.360 just like, and I'm gonna give an example from just 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.680 traveling around the league. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are only 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.080 allowing season ticket holders to come to their training camp practices. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.760 That's bad, That's really bad. You know, five three years ago, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.680 they were begging people to come to their practices and 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.800 come to their games. Now, all of a sudden, you're 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.920 cutting off people who can't afford to go to games. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.280 There's a lot of people who can't afford NFL tickets. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.120 They just can't. And the kids want to go see 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.720 this stuff. So there's where my pushback is on it yesterday. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.720 I just think that you know, you you grow your product, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.680 you tell them it's this and then it's not that, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.080 or you put it online and you know what, do 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.280 you scare the showing plays? Yeah, I think that's the thing. Yeah, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.760 they don't want you know, it's a new staff with 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.400 new offensive and defensive coach. I'm just telling you the 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.120 mindset you have your mindset, I'm giving the mindset that 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.760 this is where that's ridiculous. I'm just telling you, Okay, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.680 I'm just gonna tell you why I think that's ridiculous 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.360 Because Joe Cohen is defensive care right. Yes, anyone who 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:03.160 watches Baltimore's film over the last several years has a 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.400 pretty good idea what Joe Colan is going to do. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.760 Why not exactly, but guess what, by week one, the 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.800 Texans will have a really good idea because of three 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.760 preseason games, and guess what, after a Week one, every 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.960 other team for the rest of the year will know 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.160 what they're doing. Darryl Bevil was he an offensive coordinator 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.240 last year and for a long time. My guess is 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.920 they're gonna have an idea what devil Darryl Bevil likes 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:35.840 to do. It might not be exact Shottenheimer two, but yeah, okay, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.640 all together, all together. And so you have an idea 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.200 of what they're gonna do. I don't buy. I have 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.000 never bought. Now you get into the playoffs and you 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:51.360 want to close your practices and everything else. I get that. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:54.080 I agree that. I've never I've never bought in at 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.240 this time of the year of closing things off because 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.760 you're afraid of what someone's gonna learn. Like what the 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.560 other thing to Tony If I'm if I'm David Culley 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.760 and the coach in the Texans, and I got a 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.880 cousin that lives in South Carolina, I'm gonna have him 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.560 drive on down the Jacksonville and sit the stands and 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.120 watch the practice and tell me what they're doing. Nobody's 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.640 gonna know who he is. Well, and if you really 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.879 wanted to do that, well, another part I do agree 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.399 with you, and I hate agreeing with you. If you 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.359 know is and take the Jaguars out of this because 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.320 they have opened the practices and yesterday was free for everybody, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.399 and maybe they didn't get what they expected, but anyone 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.119 could come. I do have a problem with organizations like 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.280 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I get that you want to 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.280 make certain that practices just for season ticket holders. We 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.879 did that here, and we did that. I'm good with 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.000 that because you're seeing telling you should get some privileges. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.480 But at some point there should be a number of 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.440 practices open for the general public so that the kids 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.040 who can't afford to go, who loved this team and 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.520 love football. Because I remember as a kid, one of 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.240 my favorite things was to do every year to drive 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.119 from Boulder, Colorado, down to Greeley, Colorado to watch the 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.159 Denver Broncos. And now then I knew anything that was 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.080 going on, but I wanted to see my team and 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.879 walk up next to him and be around him, and 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.120 guess what, I fell in love with the game of football. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.800 I think that is critical. That's how you build fans. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.440 It's good. It's good for the NFL. Forget about any 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.840 one organization. It is good for the NFL, especially in 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:23.040 a time when there's so much negative about concussions and 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.160 blah blah blah and this and that and everything else. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.960 You want to expose people to and get them excited. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:33.080 This is a great game and so especially Ville. Right now, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.240 it's more well, I I mean people, I think that's anywhere. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.120 I don't care where you are. 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Bel All the time tended 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:08.200 New Weekdays on ten ten x L, Welcome Back. It's 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.080 Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, the first 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.720 time on a Monday since January four. This show on 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.600 that day featured nuggets of the GM and head coach openings. 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.960 At the time, Sean con talked about the Urban Meyer 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.480 rumors and we were discussing Lawrence versus Fields and the 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.120 Sugar Bowl. Fast forward to August and here we are 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.760 on Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday. Urban Meyer is 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.600 the head coach. Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback. J P. Shadrick, 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.239 Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco, glad you're along with us, your 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.600 social questions in the second hour tonight and up plenty 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.760 ahead in the program. Here, Trevor Lawrence is now at 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.040 quarterback for the Jaguars. Now he hasn't been handed the job, Pete, 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.840 he's still gotta earn it, Okay, like that, Let training 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.399 camp go by. Don't anoint him yet, Pete. He's got 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:02.480 a fight off Gardner and that third and Luton. Why 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.760 the hell isn't he getting more reps with the ones? 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.960 I can't figure that one out. That makes no sense 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:12.160 to me zero none. I mean there's no let's cut 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.919 the charade. Gardner Minshew isn't beating out anybody. I mean, 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.320 why why would you even play play that game? It 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.760 makes no sense. Give him all the reps you can 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.159 with the ones, get him used to playing with those guys. 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.680 If I'm not mistaken, he ran with the second team 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.800 to start to scrimage. Yet back and forth though that 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.600 they've been doing a lot of a lot of camp. 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:37.359 They've been kind of it's an open competition. It's an 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:42.280 open competition. Every every position is a competition. That's like 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:47.120 saying a seven year old and art classes competing with Picasso. 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.600 You get what if the kids a genius? You never 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.600 know unless you give him a shot. JP to say 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.440 every camp is open competition. They're not rolling. First of all, 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.919 I haven't seen maybe I've missed haven't been every practice, 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.160 but I've watched. I haven't seen Walker Little sharing reps 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.399 at the ones with Cam Robinson. Correct, I haven't you 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:12.080 know seen um, I've seen it at right tackle with 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:15.600 the starters. I think, well maybe not. No, he's been 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.520 getting reps at right You're right, I haven't you know, 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.679 I haven't seen you know, I got you know, Shally 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:26.840 running with the ones like saying jps al Michaels, Well, 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:34.840 that's you see I'm saying. I mean, I'm not saying 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.399 I'm not seeing Shaquille Griffin share time at corner. I 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.239 mean he's the corner now, I'm starting corner right now. 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:45.919 To think about it, little has had some first team stuff. 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.159 I haven't seen it. Okay, you've been My point is 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.680 I mean, is there any scenario in this world if 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.360 both guys are healthy, Like, any scenario you can think 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:01.159 of that Trevor Lawrence is not walking out there with 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.639 the first offense when we play in Houston, Texas? Is 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.960 there like like I I would think about the other 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.280 day because I actually agree with Pete if it was 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.920 me and again, Urbans won national titles. I have not. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.720 So maybe there's a you go to the Sun Bowl 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.280 one year, Yeah that was not national title gun. And 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.159 maybe there's a method that he like that he is 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.920 believes in and has had success in this type of situation. 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.119 I just can't think of any scenario in the for 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.439 the life of me where Trevor Lawrence is not your 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.520 starting quarterback. And if that's the case, the dude needs reps, 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.160 as many reps as he can get with the guys 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.440 that are gonna be on the field with him. And 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:44.000 it's but Tony, this isn't Andy Dalton and Justin Fields. 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.800 You have a veteran who's capable, and you have a 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.040 kid who's trying to take the job. This is the 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.560 number one overall pick and a guy who proved last 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:58.920 year he can't play who beat debates H Pete, I'm 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.959 not I mean only I don't they agree with us? 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.040 I will say this my uh, I don't know. I'm 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:12.960 sure they agreed, but they mean there's just they don't well, 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.760 Pete saying is different though, JP, I'm sure true, Sir, 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.520 Sir um to Urban Urban took the job one of 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.520 the major reasons number one over the quick. The point is, 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.119 if that's the case, then why aren't you getting him 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.720 as many rips are the ones as possible question? That's 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.119 that's my only contention. I know it doesn't matter the 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.119 rest of it is just like dumb talk radio stuff 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:39.520 that who cares. The real question is is if that's 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.600 the case and he is your starter, then give him 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.560 as many reps as possible with the starters. That's my 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.879 only point. It makes me those you're going to be 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.560 your guys during the season, They're not gonna be Gardner 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.480 Minshew's guys. There is guys now. You can give Minshew 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.480 a few reps with the ones just in case something 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.639 happens the large and he's glory with them, But you 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.680 don't give him lit. You don't split them in and out. 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.240 That's just stupidity. I don't I don't get it. I 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.480 just don't understand. And maybe Urban knows something that I 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.440 don't know, which is more football than I do in 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.680 my life, will ever know in my lifetime. But this 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.720 is a bad decision. And you know there's over a 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:20.040 month to the regular season, though every rep counts. And 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.920 I promise you if you asked if any of those 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.359 coaches do you believe reps matter? Do you mean do 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.240 you think reps in August matter for September? And I 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:32.159 guarantee you the answer is yes. And so I just 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.720 don't understand it. I mean, but it does make me laugh, Pete, 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.920 because I remember when I got drafted by the Jacks, 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.240 and I don't even remember this. During O T A 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.800 S I ran with the threes because quote unquote, this 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:52.520 is no lie wanted to make sure. I urge, that's 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.560 what they're that's what they're saying. When you went to 0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.760 training camp, where were you? I was with the starters. 0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.680 You gotta own it, you gotta earn it. And here's 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.480 the thing Tony knows this. As an offensive lineman, you 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.840 gotta work together as you gotta get the reps. And 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.120 as a quarterback, you need to get the reps with 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.840 those guys in front of you. Not just the receivers. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.240 I don't I just the shrain's over end it, get 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.360 it over with well, and it goes to the point. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.960 And because here I mean again, not nothing to gains 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.640 Gardner minshew. He's he's worked extremely hard this offseason. He's 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.440 had a good camp and he is clearly the best 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.680 backup is not in my opinion watching um and so 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.200 congratulations kudos to him for, you know, putting the time in. 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:41.960 But anyone who watches the two of them on the field, 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.560 it's not I mean, Trevor Lawrence is just it's a 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.640 different dude. The guy has superior talent that no matter 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.880 how hard Gardners means you ever work. I mean, there's 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.560 certain things that Trevor Lawrence can just do with the 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.560 football that Gardner Ritsch you can't do. He'll pull him 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.160 out about three or four times five times of practice 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.800 Trevor will make a throw. You're like, Okay, that's different. 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:12.400 And he can teach it. And you watch the little things, 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:17.520 his footwork, his timing, his accuracy, I mean he is. 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.200 His athletic ability. The other thing that I've been impressed with. 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.920 How many times during training camp have you seen something 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:28.800 where um, there's a mechanical issue in the huddle at 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.840 the line of scrimmage, him looking confused, him not being 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.280 in charge. It doesn't happen now. The next the next 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.280 test is when the live rush comes against the Browns. 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.640 How does he do in the pocket? Everything looks so 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.600 far that I can't get hit. He is very comfortable. 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.600 He moves around. In college, he was very comfortable. I mean, 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.520 the guy is look special. Now he's gonna go do 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.680 it and there will be a learning curve, and yes 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.960 he'll have bad games, and yes he will throw it 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.680 to the wrong colored jersey because that's what young quarterbacks do. 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:03.320 But for everything I've seen Pete Early, he's special. Oh man, 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.920 he's specials for the next decade. Don't worry about the 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.200 quarterback position. Just do not worry about it. And by 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.400 the way, kudos to the Garden mitshow to fight through 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.000 and become the best backup quarterback on the team because 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:16.480 I didn't I didn't think. I didn't know if he'd 0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.360 be on the roster. We talked about that last year. 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.200 And here's the other thing. If he is the backup quarterback, 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.720 it wasted a lot of money on C. J. Beetham. Yeah, 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.120 get a lot of guaranteed money in that deal. Let's 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:28.840 come back plenty ahead. We'll have plenty more on the 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.240 quarterback position in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.480 You can check out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.280 a free subscription Tony on Apple, iTunes or Spotify. Which 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.600 one do you use? 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Well, 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.600 work in progress and he needs to get better, you know, 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.680 and expect more from him. Like I said last week 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.160 when I was share, I expect greatness from Josh and 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.440 we're gonna keep pushing calm on until we get it 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.439 out of it. But he's got to get better. He's 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.479 trying to do everything we're asking. We just gotta find 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.399 two in some of his technique. Keep it simple form, 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.879 get to a spot fast, because you do have God 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.120 give an ability. Get to a spot fast. And if 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.520 you tackle on talking to his past, your tacle takes 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.800 it and takes it away. Get to your counter. That's it. 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.120 Joe Collen, defensive coordinator. Love hearing that voice back in 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.640 the Jaguars coaching staff and welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour. 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.600 J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco, Glad you're along 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.759 with us today. He was discussing Caleb and Chase on 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.480 That was on Friday after practice, kind of you know, hey, 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.960 challenging him a good bit there with that sound bite, 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.239 and then Saturday, Tony Jason came out. I think had 0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.040 his best practice of camp so far. Sack was all 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.759 over the ball pass defense at the line of scrimmage. 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:39.880 I don't know if he heard the sound bite, but 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.680 it was good to see him really step up and 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.880 step out. Yeah. I mean, I think the system that 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:48.800 Joe's putting in will help feature Cabalon Chason's ability. Calebon 0:36:49.040 --> 0:37:07.480 Caleb on what I say, Valan, it's calev Caleb Caleb Exe. Um. Uh, 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.000 it's a better it's a better um system because it'll 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.720 put him in space more. I think he got swallowed 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.960 up last year and he didn't do a great job 0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.680 with the transition from college to having his hand in 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.360 the ground every play as a defensive end for the Jaguars. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.320 And I think in the three four he's in space, 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.000 he can move around a little bit, get matched up 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.319 with back sometimes, get matched up with a tight end 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.840 every once in a while, and rushed from a space 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.040 position against the tackle is gonna help him out quite 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.160 a bit because he is an athlete has God given ability. 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.480 As as Joe Colin had had mentioned, Um what I 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.719 I didn't see Saturday's practice. I wasn't here. Um what 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.799 I've seen in practice? What I've seen on tape. Um, 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:53.080 he is better, but still he gets overwhelmed a little bit. 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.960 Um he does. You know, he's a guy. He has 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.200 to use that speed and get get the get the 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.880 tackles hand awf him. If he gets engaged. He's just 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.560 not a big enough man to overcome it. So I 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.359 think what Joe said, his act right, it's a work 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.359 in progress, and uh, he's got to get better. They 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.359 need production at him this year. They need production at 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:18.520 Josh Allen as well. Um, you know watching him in camp. Nothing, 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.880 it's not like there's been a bunch of big flashes 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.880 I haven't seen at least um not early Saturday was 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.000 really the one for him. I'm talking about yea, yeah, 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.359 he looks in great shape. Oh, he looks in great shape. 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.880 Did how did I did't see Saturday but on Saturday? 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.120 And I mean nothing really nothing that you say, nothing 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.839 out of the ordinary. But he's really good. So that's great. 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:49.920 How many sacks for Well this year, because that's his 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:54.279 name from now on, How many sacks for cabal on 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:59.799 this year? Tony? Um No, I'd say six or seven. 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.680 So if they can get double digits out of Alan, 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:05.880 which they should. If you're picked where you're picked, you 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.399 should get that. That guy should get double digits five 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:15.680 for five or six for Cabalan. Um, it's Caleban, Calebon, 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.719 I know what it is, Calevan? You alright? Five or 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:24.879 six for Calevan? How many? Where else did they get? Gets? 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.560 You gotta get? They to have a good pass, right, 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.319 So are you gonna get interior? Roy Robertson Harris, Harris, 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.839 I think we'll give some production to you. How many 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.680 three or four? I think he has five or six? 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.440 I think Smoots another guy who's gonna I think you'll see, um, 0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:45.439 you know, six to eight. I think John six plus 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:50.080 to four or five one six, stay twenty eight miles 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.960 Jack will get a couple of Blitzer baby five or six, right, 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:58.000 And don't forget about god Ward. He's another guy who's 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.080 you know, he's a you know, middle you know, middle 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.800 single digit guy. What I'm trying to point out is 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.200 to get the thirty five, Chason has to be better 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.600 and what you think he's gonna get, and Alan has 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.319 to be better than what I think he's gonna get. 0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:15.520 What did you say you think all get ten? Yeah? Hey, 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.200 why did we're looking at smooth on the acount. Why 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.520 do you change his number? Wasn't ninety four before he 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.320 was and ninety one was open and when in Gockway 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.840 was no longer around, then he decided to finally change it. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:33.600 Was it? Okay? That was curious? Um? Yeah, so um 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.880 switching gears. Yeah. By the way, we're sticking on defense 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.399 here and C. J. Henderson has been in the news 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.040 this week. Trade rumors are out there, some reports have 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.239 been out even this afternoon. The Times picking you to 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.960 New Orleans said that the Saints are looking at the 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.719 corners and including C. J. Henderson. That has been a 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.000 hot topic today Tony, Well, yeah, I mean if you 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.520 look at from the beginning, you know, if C. J. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.480 Henderson be in the first round pick last year, he 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.239 you know, came out. There was some comments during camp 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.960 and you know, I mean pre camping sorry draft day. 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.640 If I go back to is like about his interest 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.279 to being a Jaguar. That quickly went away, quickly put 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.000 that to bed. No big deal came out of camp. 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.279 You know, maybe some Nixon you know, injuries during camp. 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.200 But then Opening day last year was like a superstar 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.319 great game, had an interception off Rivers. Yeah, I mean 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.480 just looked fabulous and and then was up and down 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.560 to like a lot of rookies. But then the injuries 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.080 started coming and then you just started hearing stuff just 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.759 like and it was just and the next thing you know, 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.040 he's in I are Um, he had a shoulder issue 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.880 that a lots of different stuff, and so you started 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:48.080 instantly worrying about the availability. Um. And then this offseason, 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.320 you know, you didn't hear a lot about it, but 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.719 you heard, you know, is there injuries? And then he 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.360 starts off camp, you know, on the COVID list, and 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.520 then he finally shows up and then he's one practice 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.520 in then he's gone again. And so there's just all 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.000 these different things swirling. And immediately you hear about these 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:09.120 trade rumors and so you know, not where you want 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.439 to be with the guy you picked in the top 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.719 ten to come to all of your corner issue and um, 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.719 but this is where we are and this is we'll 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.000 see where it goes. I mean, the rumors are out there. 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.840 You hear about him. Um, You'll tell you what I 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.800 was just in New Orleans. They're looking for a corner 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.759 and you know there's you know, there's people regardless of 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.800 what has happened here and all the different rumors and 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.160 nonsense and whatever whatever is sure or not, who knows. Um, 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.840 you just know that the rumors are about trade. You know, 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.359 he's been at one practice and it's been a little bit. 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:47.839 You know he's not been available, but you but there's 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.920 a he was a he was a top corner prospect 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.160 just a year ago. And you know that a bunch 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.000 of other teams had them high on their board. So, um, 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.560 now will they get the value that a top as 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.040 a top warner. No, but they'll get something. They'll be 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.320 a team out there interested because they will feel like 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.279 and they will remember the evaluation they did of him 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:11.600 as a Gator and say, hey, whatever happened at Jacksonville happened, 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.239 we can fix it. We can get the most out 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.480 of him. Let's go take a chance. And he's got 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:21.640 a relatively cheap contract. That's right. If you're like you're 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.920 the Saint, You've got a bunch of money in Marshawn Lattimore, 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.440 who might get suspended by the way, and your other 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:34.320 corners draft for what for he got arrested for he 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.440 had a gun charge, a legal firearm or whatever. So 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.000 there's a chance he gets suspended and then you have 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.480 the kids you drafted out of Stanford a debot and 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.319 you have Patrick Robinson and guys like that. I mean, 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.080 these guys are add twenty years old. They need a quarner, 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.360 and I was told they're going to get a corner. 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.840 Henderson would make a lot of sense to the Saints. 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.440 It's a cheap court. But again, when you start talking 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:03.320 about play yours, why isn't he on? The availability is 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.440 the only ability that truly matters, and he hasn't been available, 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:11.120 and that's the big concern. It's availability issue. Um, And 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:18.600 you can't control COVID. That's that's no, you can't cod 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.080 that's how. That's how the that's how the young man's 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.040 The question is does he love it well? I mean, 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.680 that's the question. I mean, and that's always a question question. 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.160 When he came out of college in Florida, the scouts 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.359 all when you talk to the scouts, the personnel people, 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.399 they asked that same question, does he love it? Will 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.480 he will? Will you get to the NFL game and 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.279 love it? It's something that you have to I mean, 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.080 it's one of the evaluations. It's part of the evaluation process. 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.040 Anytime you pick a guy you know, there's a lot 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.160 of talented guys. I mean, and set aside C. J. 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.600 Henderson for a second, there's a ton of talented guys 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.520 in college that are just great because they're great athletes, 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.640 but they don't truly love ball. And you better love 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.920 football if you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna have 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.680 long term success, and and and you want a guy, 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.280 you want a locker room full of guys who love ball. 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.520 They just love football. It's a hard game and if 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.440 you don't love it, it's really really hard. But what 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.600 do you think they get back for Like the Saints 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.480 make it, call him up and say, hey, we'd love 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.320 to have that was our starting corner. What do you 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.440 get back for him? I heard they have di scrambled 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:27.640 wide receiver right hearing stories about there. You don't want 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.920 him or either Yeah, yeah, you're not getting Michael Thomas. 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.279 I don't think you don't want to be here anyways. Yeah, 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.040 I mean, because there's a lot of noise around him. 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.520 Pat to your point, Oh my gosh, you don't want 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.000 him around there. That's not what this young team needs. 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.560 That's not what that young quarterback needs. They don't know, 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.400 you don't want you don't want that, and so, um, 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.759 so what do you get back third or fourth? Well, 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.960 I'll tell you what. I'd be apprehensive to trade him 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:58.359 for a three or four totally was gone with him 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.279 when it's not fixed bolt, which I don't think that's 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.160 the case. I wouldn't trade him for anything less than two. 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.680 Are you thinking? I mean, Pete, but you, I mean, 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.480 you know this as well as I do. If it 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.320 just depends how much smoke is out there, you know, 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.360 and we don't hear everything I mean, and half the 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:20.000 stuff you hear is well, then yeah, then I I 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.920 would agree with you, But you have to I think 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.200 if you're building something here, you have to make the decision. 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.120 And again I'll go back to you want a bunch 0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.120 of guys out locker room that love football, And I 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.600 don't know CJ. Henderson's I'm not gonna make an evaluation. 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.200 I don't know you heard the Pete's point. You heard 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.960 stuff coming out of college last year. It's a long 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.560 time ago. But Urban and the coaching staff they've been 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:45.120 around him now and Trent Balky. Part of the evaluation 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.279 is Okay, number one, what do you want to get 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.279 for him? And if it's A two and you can't 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.840 get it too well, then if you keep them is 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.760 is he gonna be available? Are we gonna get production 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.440 out of him? And does he want does he love it? 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.479 I don't know that. I can't of those questions. See, 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.120 and I don't think this is I don't think this 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.480 is a case where Jalen didn't want to be in Jacksonville. 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.839 I don't think that's the case at all. That that's 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.280 not the issue. It's not this staff or this regime 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.279 or anything like that. That's at least that's what I 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.640 So it's just a matter of get him on the field. 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.200 And if I'm urban Meyer and Gang, I'd like to 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:24.040 have him on my team. But if somebody, if they 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:28.560 clearly it's been leaked out there that he's available, and 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.799 teams know that, how do you amend that fence? Now? 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.439 If you do, you know, if that gets out, that's 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:41.319 out and just by just you know, um, it's pretty 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:46.319 obvious that if you're top ten pick after just one 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.759 year and a partial year because he was injured, is 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.879 all of a sudden available after one practicing for one 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:58.919 day with you? 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All 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:13.920 young coaches grew up watching UH coach Bowden to tell 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.680 ask you a coach for your got to swamp and 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:21.479 that changed college football, Yes it did. That's Rban Meyer 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:25.360 and Jaguars head coach former Florida head coach discussing the 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:29.400 passing of legendary Florida State head coach Bobby Bowden. Welcome 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.560 back at Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.120 Pete Briscoe. Another hour starting in just a few minutes. 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.160 At the top of the hour, we'll get back to 0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.520 the Trevor Lawrence talk and the biggest news of the week. C. J. 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.440 Henderson has been in the news. We'll get your social 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.640 questions coming up in the second hour. Pete, what are 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:50.120 your memories of Bobby Bowden? Did you ever deal with him? 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.799 Much in the old days. Yes I did not, I mean, 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:59.080 not a ton, but always gracious, always accommodating. And I'm 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:00.839 gonna tell a story. We were when I was at 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.960 the Times Union, we investigated their program. We did a 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:09.879 thorough investigation of cheating allegations, and I was a part 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:14.160 of that, and I we actually got the story, and 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.800 I had to do the confrontational interview with Bobby. The 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.920 story never ran by the way for whatever reason, but 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.360 it was. I did the confrontational interview with Bobby, and 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:25.719 I figured most coaches would scream and yell at you, 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:32.440 not him. He was. He was classy, very easy to 0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.719 deal with, and I always respected him because of that. 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:37.600 And and plus I know a lot of guys who 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:40.239 played for him and when they played for him, like 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.879 Leroy Butler. You know Leroy Butler and Edgar Bennett, guys 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.000 I've known for a long time. They just love the guy. 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.920 So I always had, you know, this idea that he 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.279 was a different kind of coach, maybe more so, a 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.239 little more folksy, a little more down home, and really 0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.279 had a great relationship with his players. How difficult was 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.600 that kind stational interview, The idea of having to go 0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:07.160 confront him. Well, for some it was it was actually 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.400 done on the phone, but but for some coaches, no 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.200 matter where it's done, it would have been bad. And 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.080 he wasn't that way. I mean, you know, we had 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:17.279 a story. It was allegations of the program cheating, and 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:21.200 it never ran. But it was a good story. It 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.400 was well researched and for whatever reason something happened it 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.560 didn't run. But um, it could have been ugly and 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.239 it wasn't. And I respected him for that. I mean, 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.480 and the times I went over there. I mean one 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.560 time we were driving through This isn't nothing to do 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:36.160 with him, but we were driving through the parking lot, 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:39.360 looking right down license plate numbers and the player parking 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.520 lot and they chased us away. And then that's the 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.560 kind of investigation it was. And and he, you know, 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.320 could have been angry about it. He was He was 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.239 always he was always easy going as a coach and 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.160 and even with the media. And I think that's why 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:57.080 the media liked him so much. But you, Tony, have 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:03.399 you ever interact with fame stuff college? And uh, maybe 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.560 not at all. I'm trying to think of covering games. 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:07.960 Did some college games Florida State when he was there, 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.880 did his last game at the Gator Bowl. Um. But 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.360 have a lot of friends who played for him and 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:19.600 new guys who played for him, and and everything you hear, UM, 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.080 great coach, better person. And if you just look at 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:27.040 the life he's lived, I think Urban said the best. 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.400 I mean, what a life, What an example um that 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.760 he set for so many individuals, And what an impact 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.839 he made at Florida State. And you know building a program. Yes, 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.440 on the field, but also I've never heard one person 0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.680 say anything negative about Bobby Abouten And that's that's tough. 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.439 I mean, you know, you find you talked enough people, 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.480 you can find somebody who doesn't like a person. But 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.239 you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't like 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:56.080 Bobby Bouten and built the program from from it was 0:55:56.160 --> 0:56:00.920 a disaster scratch. Basically. The best way he did it 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.239 was he went and played other people. Remember they used 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:04.840 to go play and get the side games. They go 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.640 grass that they cut after they beat upset teams on 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.600 the road. 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Welcome back as Jaguars 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:17.000 Happy Hour the second hour of the program. J P. 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.840 Shadrick Pete Frisco, CBS Sports Senior writer and pride of 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.840 the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us, 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:29.320 says the Jaguars continued training camp. Players off today, back 1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:33.400 on the practice field Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then they'll 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.440 host the Cleveland Browns in preseason Week one, Saturday night, 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:39.760 seven o'clock at t I A A. Bank Field. I 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.560 can't believe it's here already. This is our first Monday 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:47.040 Happy Hour program since January four, we're back and we'll 1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:50.960 be here pretty much every Monday until the day after 1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.360 the Super Bowl, Pete. If the Jaguars go that far, 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:57.760 how about it? And uh, if Tony goes to England 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.760 and can't do the show, that'll be our highest rated 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:03.560 show that Monday, like it always is the tradition. Unlike 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:07.040 an is there any word on the ticket sales are 1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:11.200 beginning in phases in the UK, and I think they're 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:15.360 gonna sell until otherwise, you know, if if I don't know, 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.080 if there's a drop dead date where they have to say, hey, 1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:19.920 it's not gonna happen, or it is gonna happen. But 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:23.000 ticket sales are beginning in phases in the UK for 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:25.640 those games. So that means that we will have our 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:29.360 Tony less show that Monday after the game, the highest 1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:31.520 rate every year since we've been doing this show, it's 1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:34.520 the highest rated show going through the roof. Yeah, we'll 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:41.360 see about that. The numbers don't lie. Oh, the people 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:42.760 say they love it, Pete. I mean I get a 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:44.320 lot of people who come to me and say that 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:49.080 show is magic radio. I mean, it's incredible to listen to. 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:51.640 Let's test it. You guysn't do the last hour by yourself. 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:56.960 He's always looking for a starting with a bang, Pete, 1:01:57.120 --> 1:02:01.480 you count me out, pete seconds next period j P. 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:05.919 Tony leaves Tony get ready, walk out, walk out, walk out. 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:08.800 You're gonna have to carry it more and make sure 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:11.320 your water get the water. I love it. I did, 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.640 miss um. I al was enjoyed that lending game. I 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.240 mean I know very few people probably did. I mean 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.240 I don't know who did or did not. It was 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.680 always fun. Did you enjoy it over there? Yeah? I 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:26.240 personally Jeff, I mean, I mean not Joe. How do 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:27.920 you feel about it? I mean, it's a lot of 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:29.880 work for you, technical guy, I was gonna say, I 1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:32.479 mean it is, you know, for guys like Tony Pete. 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:34.160 For guys like Tony, he gets to do all the 1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:42.640 big fancy parties and all these things. Yeah. Trip. For 1:02:42.720 --> 1:02:45.000 guys like me work trip. Hey, don't hate the player, 1:02:45.120 --> 1:02:47.920 hate the game? JP. You go every year, don't know 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.000 you don't go? I have been every year. Yes, I've 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:52.200 been very Fortunately what you have to come home early 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.000 and he gets to stay, which is right. When you 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:56.880 come back, you do the show. Tony has like other duties. 1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:58.520 I guess, so I come back and I'm on the 1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.000 air Monday here in this student. You know, after flying 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:05.200 back with the team, I have sponsorship responsibilities that might 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:07.920 not be the case, might not be the case. Too 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:10.040 early to tell. Yeah, I mean i've even heard you 1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:18.680 know what the plan is. But ye keep the tradition going. 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:22.160 Love it. The Jaguars are in the stadium Sunday. They're 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:24.360 off today. As we said, back on the practice field. 1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:26.720 The rest of the way, no more open practices to fans. 1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:28.840 Sunday was the last chance to see the Jacks for 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:32.560 free in this offseason program. C J. Henderson has been 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:35.320 in the news today. Well, the trade rumors have been 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:38.480 out there, at least in this afternoon. The New Orleans 1:03:38.560 --> 1:03:42.400 Times picking a newspaper reporting that the Saints are looking 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:46.160 for a corner, including looking at c J. Henderson. There 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:48.600 are those trade rumors. That's not the only one that's 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.760 been out there today, Tony, but that's been the big 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:54.280 topic of discussion. And Pete, you think we talked about 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:56.000 this in the first hour. You think they they should 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:57.440 try to get a second round or you think they 1:03:57.480 --> 1:04:02.320 can get a second rounder for CJ. Uh Yeah, maybe, 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:04.520 I mean he is was the ninth overall picked people 1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:07.280 had first or high first round raids on them, So yeah, 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:09.920 I think there's a possibility. No, I listen, from a 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.560 talent standpoint, there's no doubt about it. We saw firsthand 1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:16.640 that dude can play football when he's on the first round. No, 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:19.080 I know that, But my point is he can play. 1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:24.280 The question is you know availability, which we addressed, and 1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:27.920 if I was opposing team, my first question is, Okay, 1:04:28.000 --> 1:04:33.280 why are you trading him after one year? Right? I mean, 1:04:33.320 --> 1:04:37.520 wouldn't you That's a legitimate question. Yeah. By the way, 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:40.720 if it's even true, the Jaguars have not confirmed they're 1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:44.200 trading them. There's nothing out there. It's a report, you 1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:48.040 know on several outlets are saying that they're that they're 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:51.360 it's open for business as far as having conversations about 1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:54.880 trading for CJ. Henderson, But to be clear, the Jaguars 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:58.520 have not confirmed that that is the case. Again, I 1:04:58.600 --> 1:05:01.840 go back to the Saints. For the Saints a cheap 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:04.240 corner and that's what he is right now. Makes a 1:05:04.320 --> 1:05:07.240 lot of sense for a cornerback needy team. For example, 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:09.520 if they were in the market, the trade for Xavian 1:05:09.560 --> 1:05:12.280 Howard before he got his deal restructured, that would have 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:14.760 been to twenty million dollar corners. You can't do that, 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.120 but you can do it with c J. Henderson because 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:21.000 this deal is finals financially, uh good for the team. 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:23.280 So I think it's possible that the Saints could make 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:25.800 that deal if they wanted. So the Jaguars spent a 1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:29.600 lot of actual cash and then draft equity at the 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:33.480 cornerback position this offseason. Shatt Griffin came over in free agency, 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:37.360 big deal of course, from the Seahawks, and then in 1:05:37.440 --> 1:05:40.920 the draft Tyson Campbell second round draft pick. If for 1:05:41.080 --> 1:05:44.880 some reason c J. Henderson is no longer on this roster, 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:48.600 are the Jags okay at cornerback? Do they feel like 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:50.560 they have to go get somebody else at some point 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:53.640 that can actually go play and play right away? Um, 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:58.360 let's go through it. I mean Sidney Jones, you know again, 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:02.080 Nick dupple throughout his career, but when he was healthy 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:05.400 last year, he looked he played good corner outside corner, 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:08.880 was a good player. Trey Herndon more of a nickel 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:11.160 or a backup outside guy I think was We're I mean, 1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:15.919 but he started outside and was a productive guy. But yeah, 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:18.280 that's why I said he moved to Nickel. Um, I've 1:06:18.320 --> 1:06:20.600 been super impressed what I've seen from Tyson Campbell. He 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:23.280 seems to be around the ball, good cover, guy, has length, 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:27.840 he was good yesterday. Good size. Um. And so you 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.600 know you drafted him the top of the second round 1:06:29.640 --> 1:06:32.720 for a reason. It's almost like another first rounder. Um. 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:39.080 So I mean I think you could piece it together. Yeah, 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:41.560 you can piece it together, but it hurts because you're 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.440 counting on you got. You draft the guy in the 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:46.200 top ten because you think he's a starter. Well, how 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:50.360 do you play it? If Henderson's there? Henderson, Griffin and 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:55.800 Campbell's camp So if if he's not there, then it 1:06:55.880 --> 1:06:59.919 becomes what Griffin, Jones and Campbell's and Nickel or Griff 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:04.840 and Campbell outside and heard, Yeah, some combination of the such. 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:09.000 Where do you think Campbell is more comfortable playing? I 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:14.000 think he's an outside corner. Um. Yeah, that's I don't know, Pete. 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.160 I have not to be honestly, It's not like I've 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.440 watched every play to see where he's been lining up, 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:20.520 and I've not talked to I haven't heard from any 1:07:20.520 --> 1:07:22.920 of the coaches. I don't think he looks like an 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:26.560 outside corner. Well, that's because of his length, right, You're right, 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:28.880 and the little corner in the slot usually has to 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:31.280 turn and and I don't know, he's more of a 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:34.880 long glider. I don't. I don't. I think he could 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:36.400 play the nickel, but I think he's more of an 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:41.480 outside guy. Another position of interest, of course, in this 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:45.440 training camp so far has been the offensive tackles Cam Robinson. 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:48.920 He's in the franchise tag year thirteen point seven million 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.240 dollars guaranteed this season, Juwan Taylor on the right side, 1:07:52.280 --> 1:07:55.560 trying to bounce back from a penalty laden season let's 1:07:55.600 --> 1:07:58.480 say a year ago, and then the Jaguars in the 1:07:58.520 --> 1:08:00.840 second round. Later in the second round, after the Campbell 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:04.240 pick went got Walker Little from Stanford, and he has 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:07.840 not played since early in the nineteen season. He injured 1:08:07.920 --> 1:08:10.360 his knee in the opening game against Northwestern that year 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:14.640 and missed the entire season, came back, opted out last year, 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:16.800 did not play last season, so he has not played 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:20.080 football since Week one of twenty nineteen. He told me 1:08:20.160 --> 1:08:22.320 the other week that he has fired up to be 1:08:22.439 --> 1:08:25.400 back in an actual football game at some point very soon. 1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:27.920 There have been some moments, at least in one on 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:30.080 ones when the pads went on. That you can see 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:34.920 his size and his his ability to to play and 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:36.840 do things the right way. Tony, what have you seen 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:38.519 on tape from him? What have you seen out of 1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:41.960 little the times you've seen him in person? Um, He's 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:45.960 a big athletic man. I mean, he's just a big person. UM. 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:50.840 And he has natural ability, natural strength, UM to be 1:08:51.200 --> 1:08:54.960 a really good player both you know, run game, pass 1:08:55.040 --> 1:08:57.960 game obviously you know, you know some things he can 1:08:58.000 --> 1:09:02.439 clean up UM in the past game and and you 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:07.200 know footwork, you know, in coordination with you know uh 1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:10.479 in uh working with his hand placement and everything else. 1:09:11.000 --> 1:09:17.200 But just overall, UM, you see why he was you know, 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:20.479 before the injury and before the opt that was you know, 1:09:20.640 --> 1:09:22.680 thought about it as a first round traft pick. And 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:25.400 and my guess is if he would have played last year, 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:27.040 he would have been a first round traft pick. This year. 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:31.320 I mean, he's he is a very high ceiling and 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:35.320 I think he'll push. I think I think he'll push 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:38.479 both the tackles. Does he play this year? I think 1:09:38.520 --> 1:09:45.360 he does? Which side? When you do this all the time, 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:50.439 when I don't know, well, I mean I don't know 1:09:51.080 --> 1:09:54.480 Here's the thing I've said all year, said the offseason, 1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:58.320 saying at camp, I feel really good about the interior too. 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:05.719 I think the the UM two out the two tackles, 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:08.479 Joan Taylor and Cam Robinson have a ton of talent, 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:13.040 like they have upside. They're big, physical men. They are 1:10:13.120 --> 1:10:16.840 inconsistent and you have to be more consistent if you 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:19.200 want to be effective as an offense. You need consistency. 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:21.160 Have those guys where they can hold up when it matters. 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:25.120 And I just I worry about the footwork I worry about, 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:28.679 you know, especially in the past game. I worry about 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:32.920 UM holding up on a good outside rushers where we 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:38.920 saw them struggle last year at times and in early 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:41.280 and this is super early, so you don't want to 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:43.400 jump to conclusions after a little bit over a week 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:46.800 of camp. You still see some of the tendencies. Talk 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.600 about Cam Robinson where he kind of opens up the 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:53.040 gate gets you know, perpendicular to the line of scrimmage 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:56.200 really early shortened in that corner for an outside rusher, 1:10:57.000 --> 1:11:00.400 and that's something has plagued them for most of his career. 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:03.880 And I think John Taylor is again another guy I 1:11:03.920 --> 1:11:06.320 think he needs to play bigger. I don't think Jowan 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:12.040 Taylor plays his big um as he as I think 1:11:12.080 --> 1:11:15.719 he should. It's funny Tony when you mentioned that, because 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:19.240 I think the same thing when you leon seriously, was 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:22.679 not a big man, but he played big. He played big. 1:11:23.520 --> 1:11:27.040 This he just got doesn't play big. And judging from 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:28.519 what people are saying up there, and I only saw 1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:32.000 one practice, he's had a good can Jowan Taylor. But 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:35.720 I'm with you, JP, You're being kind. Penalties. That wasn't 1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:38.120 the only part of the problems of his game last year. 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:42.400 He wasn't very good. He regrets, he regrets Cam Robinson 1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:45.920 didn't get better. That's why they drafted Walking them and 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:50.320 so I think I think early in the season Walker 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:53.400 Little will be the left tackle. Tony does too, he 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:56.160 just doesn't want to say so. You think you know 1:11:56.280 --> 1:12:00.400 they they oh came Rarobs in million dollars no matter what, 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:03.760 which is why he's the starter right now. But you 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:06.360 think Walker a little wins the job before too long. 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:11.160 If let's put this way, if Cam Robinson plays like 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:13.920 he did last season, yes, I agree, a little Walker 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:17.720 Little will be in there by October. I agree with that. 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:21.080 Then what do you do with Cam Robinson. After the year, 1:12:21.080 --> 1:12:23.160 you get rid of them's your backup and just eat 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:26.920 the the backup. And first of all, I don't care 1:12:27.000 --> 1:12:28.880 what you're paying the guy. If the guy behind is better, 1:12:28.920 --> 1:12:30.639 you're not gonna play it right. You don't move into 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:33.240 a different spot. We're not going to overtake any don't 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:34.960 There's all that talk of trying to my guard. He 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:37.080 hasn't done any guard work that I know. Okay, is 1:12:37.080 --> 1:12:39.599 he gonna be better than a j Can or or Noral? 1:12:39.960 --> 1:12:42.040 Obviously they don't think so if he's not working or 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:47.559 cross training there. Right, j Can had good years last year, 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:49.800 and you got Shotley behind them and BArch and those 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:54.840 guys project you gotta then you got then you have 1:12:55.040 --> 1:12:58.920 expensive backup. I mean, you deal with it. But but 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:00.880 you didn't when you pay ate him. You didn't know 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:07.720 you were getting a tackle like that to be there. Um. So, 1:13:07.880 --> 1:13:11.040 if you're in that scenario when you drafted, if you 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:13.040 didn't know Walker Little was gonna be there when you 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:15.759 signed camera, when you put that tag on Cam Robinson, 1:13:16.200 --> 1:13:21.400 your backup was Will Richardson, correct, that's right. So you 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:24.519 protected yourself and now you protect yourself and you still 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:27.439 gotta tackle, So the best guy plays. If it's a 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:29.719 walker little, I don't care what Cam Robinson is making. 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:32.000 He's gonna be an expensive backup for a year. You 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:36.040 paid him right, you didn't give a long term deal. 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:39.960 But I would agree with me and listen, I'm rooting 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:42.360 for Cam because I like Cam a lot. But the 1:13:42.400 --> 1:13:45.240 bottom line, you have to be consistent. I mean, you 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:46.920 can have all the potential in the world, you can 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:48.600 have all the ability and be big, and you have 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:50.400 to be athletic. If you don't get it done, don't 1:13:50.439 --> 1:13:53.920 block people. Yeah, especially with let's standing in the backfield. 1:13:54.080 --> 1:13:55.840 I don't care who's in the backfield. Your jobs will 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:58.559 protect the quarterback. Now. It might be in the spotlight 1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:03.040 more now, but it does it doesn't change. Nothing changes, 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:07.920 doesn't matter if those two regrettless, I mean Taylor really 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:12.240 regret which But you know, George Warhofks got a challenge 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:13.679 this year. You didn't do it last year. He's gotta 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.120 get it into play better. So I'm looking forward to 1:14:16.200 --> 1:14:21.599 watching them during the preseason games and see if because 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:23.600 to me, it's all. I mean, the offensive line so 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:27.080 much is about technique, like if you, if you, if 1:14:27.120 --> 1:14:29.479 you have the right technique, you give yourself a chance 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:33.000 to be in the right position and give you yourself 1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:38.479 a much better chance of winning, or at least technical problem, Tony, 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:41.800 you want just point out Pam Robinson's technical problem, But 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:45.160 what do you want, Taylors. I mean, he's a very vertical, 1:14:45.680 --> 1:14:48.599 uh center, And if you're not, if you're vertical meaning 1:14:48.640 --> 1:14:51.599 going getting depth and really you know, kicking the lot 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:53.680 straight back on the line. And if you're gonna do that, 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:55.360 you better play big and you better be physical at 1:14:55.360 --> 1:15:00.519 the point of attack to create the separation because you know, 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.759 if you don't that that Russia, You're given that rusher 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:05.840 a lot of room instead of creating some width with 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:10.360 your kick. Now, both are viable techniques. I mean, guys 1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:13.040 do both. But if you're gonna be vertical like that, 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:19.000 you better be you better be stout because An and 1:15:19.080 --> 1:15:20.840 he just I mean at times I don't think he 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:22.760 plays as big and he's a powerful man. He's a 1:15:22.760 --> 1:15:25.800 big man I personally would try to get I try 1:15:25.840 --> 1:15:29.560 to create more with um. I'm not a coach and 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:32.960 I'm not saying that that's not a viable technique to teach. 1:15:33.000 --> 1:15:36.240 If that's what Jowan's being taught, but I just think, 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:38.800 you know, at times he just gets pushed back and 1:15:38.920 --> 1:15:41.439 gets too soft in the pocket. I don't know. The 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:44.200 offensive line mastermind told me that the Jaguars had two 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:46.880 really good tackles. When you argue with me on Twitter, 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:49.519 who's that? You know? You know that guy that has 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:53.360 that offensive line Mastermind group out there? They all go, 1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:58.000 they descend on Texas and they have a school for 1:15:58.080 --> 1:16:02.600 the offensive lineman. Who that? Yeah, well he got on me. 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:05.280 He got on me because I ranked certain guys and 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:07.800 when I did my top one hundred and he said, 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:09.680 I didn't know what I was doing. And then he 1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:11.519 came back and tried to say the Jaguars had two 1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:13.840 good tackles last year, and I went, you might want 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:16.120 to clean your eyes out a little bit. Who is 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:20.800 this guy? Uh is d many Weather is his name. 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:24.320 He used to work for La Charles Bentley kind of 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:27.240 spun off and stole his stick. And then he's got 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:30.439 this whole school down in Texas. Every oven, almost all 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:32.880 the offensive lineman a league go there, Tony. So you're 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:37.360 discounting his his credibility saying I'm not just but my 1:16:37.479 --> 1:16:39.880 opinion is not just because he teaches he thinks he's 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:42.080 a score strength coach when he's an offensive line girl. 1:16:42.360 --> 1:16:44.760 First off end of argument, he said, Joe Thomas is 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:48.559 better than Tony Masselli. The game is over. Okay. If 1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:51.000 you really believe Joe Thomas is better than Tony Misselli, 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:54.880 you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Let's 1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:59.519 come back in a moment. We're off and running in 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:02.680 this new season of Monday Jaguars Happy Hour. I love it. 1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:05.519 Something's never change JP. Oh, they do not, and that's 1:17:05.520 --> 1:17:07.720 a good thing. We like those. 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Hey. 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:04.840 On the script it says this is that this, Hey 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:06.559 what are you thinking on that? So you know he's 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:10.719 working at it all the time. Uh, and he's progressing nicely. 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:12.839 You know, that's what you do with a young quarterback. 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:15.880 You know there's gonna be interceptions. He's throwing those. That's 1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:19.000 gonna happen now, if he keeps repeating those mistakes, and 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:20.920 that's when you know that he's not listening. He's not 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.400 making the corrections, but he's not repeating those same mistakes. 1:22:23.479 --> 1:22:27.200 So that's when you get excited. Brian shut Brian Schottenheimer. 1:22:27.240 --> 1:22:30.960 There the passing game coordinator today is keeping it real topic. 1:22:31.240 --> 1:22:33.840 You're an advisor to head coach Urban Meyer. Guys, Okay, 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:36.280 how long should Trevor? How else do we get paid 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:41.040 to me? Then? I don't know, but we're right. You're 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.080 just another number in that side of the whole way 1:22:44.240 --> 1:22:49.160 much less add to the list. How long should Trevor 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:53.160 Lawrence play in preseason weeks one, two, and three? Tony, 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:56.880 go ahead, I'd play him one quarter in preseason game one, 1:22:57.520 --> 1:23:00.960 all with the ones. Preseason game two, I'm playing him 1:23:01.040 --> 1:23:04.160 two quarters plus one series coming out of the half. 1:23:05.400 --> 1:23:08.360 In preseason game number three, he is sitting on the 1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:16.160 bench next to me. Pete boy, I'll tell you what, um, Remember, Tony, 1:23:16.200 --> 1:23:18.759 there's two weeks before the last from the last preseason 1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:21.920 game until the start of the regular season. It's different 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:25.040 this year, and so do you want him not playing 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:34.040 at all for three weeks? So I might go a 1:23:34.160 --> 1:23:38.120 quarter in the first game, quarter and a half in 1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:40.840 the second game, and maybe one series in the last game, 1:23:41.040 --> 1:23:43.800 just to get his feel for it. Again, Pete, I 1:23:43.920 --> 1:23:45.320 get what you're saying, but I don't want to play 1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:47.840 any of my offensive line in that third preseason game, 1:23:48.120 --> 1:23:51.080 and I'm not putting them behind backups, not a one 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:55.000 series even. I mean, you're I'm not just talking about 1:23:55.040 --> 1:23:57.000 the I'm not talking about just him, I'm talking about 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:59.400 the team. That means you go three weeks without playing 1:23:59.760 --> 1:24:02.160 the way for the regular months last year, without playing 1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:09.360 before the first first game. Yeah, play games. You're still 1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:12.960 going to practice? Yeah, I don't know. I might. I 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.920 might consider playing him one series if you played the starters, 1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:18.120 but if not, then I wouldn't play him. I'm with Tony, 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:19.840 come let it come out of the half in the 1:24:19.920 --> 1:24:23.920 second game and then get him out of there. That's interesting, right, 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:27.200 I mean because and you know it's also the first 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:29.240 time Urbans had to do this, right, he's got That's 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:31.320 why he has the NFL staff around him to help 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:37.839 him wherever. He's been around forever. But it's a different 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:41.519 it's a different year though, there's it's a new thing. 1:24:41.640 --> 1:24:45.760 There's not four preseason games cuts are on Tuesday. Um, 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:48.840 so you know it's an entirely different thing this year, 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:50.640 So how do you handle it? And by the way, 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:52.880 they're back down to three different cuts this year also, 1:24:52.960 --> 1:24:56.720 they go down to five Tuesday after the first preseason game, 1:24:56.760 --> 1:24:59.639 and every Tuesday after that, it's like five week after 1:24:59.760 --> 1:25:02.960 that last but the last two last one, you'd have 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:04.800 a week and a half, so you could you're gonna 1:25:04.800 --> 1:25:06.280 cut your roster and you're gonna have a week and 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:08.080 a half you can get guys in and they can 1:25:08.200 --> 1:25:11.040 get acclimated quicker. Remember it used to happen you'd have 1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:13.240 to get him acclimated right away because you're playing the 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.600 game the next week. And the Jaguars Pete has the 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:17.680 number one waiver claim for the first three weeks of 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:20.680 the season, so they'll have first option. They don't want 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:23.360 to have ever again with Drever Lard's here either, nor 1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:28.280 will they. So yeah, changes, So, Tony, does that change 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:32.000 your mind at all about the last one? No, because 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:36.439 I don't want to play my starters one series. What's 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.800 the what's the benefit of one series? It's all downside. 1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:43.760 You're probably right, another prep week. You know you're gonna 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:47.080 play guess what. I prep them all week, they go 1:25:47.160 --> 1:25:49.880 out for pregame warm up, they get their sweat on, 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:52.640 and guess what get out playing guys. I want to 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:55.000 evaluate that are down the line and see what I got. 1:25:55.680 --> 1:25:58.200 But Tony, what about Okay? So why play so much 1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:00.960 in the second game? Because I up my young quarterback 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:04.840 to go through like the mechanics and the work and 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:08.000 everything else. So you're gonna play, You're gonna play the starters. Yeah, 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:10.680 I'm playing the starters. I'm playing. I'm playing. As much 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:12.920 as I hated it as a player, I think there's 1:26:12.920 --> 1:26:15.639 a benefit playing a half, going in a halftime, coming 1:26:15.680 --> 1:26:19.920 out and getting a series. I don't know. I don't 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:21.560 even know if you're not gonna do I don't know 1:26:21.600 --> 1:26:23.360 if I would even do that. I play in the 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.800 quarter and get them out of there, and then I 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:29.320 just think. I mean, he said, how hard is it 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.800 get adjusted the halftime? Well, I'm just saying, it's just 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:34.680 your body used to the mechanics. I'll say this, we 1:26:34.800 --> 1:26:38.680 go what go look at? How much? Not? Last year? 1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:41.400 The year before, after the Chiefs went to the a 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:43.519 f C Championship, I we went to the Super Bowl. No. 1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:46.360 A FC championship game and loss to the Patriots. Go, 1:26:46.520 --> 1:26:52.080 look how much that following preseason you saw they played. 1:26:52.800 --> 1:26:57.960 They're starters in preparation for the season. Because this is 1:26:58.040 --> 1:27:01.160 a super Bowl team that we're talking about a year ago. Yeah, 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:03.560 I mean two years two years ago. The one of 1:27:03.600 --> 1:27:06.360 the super about this team. This is a bunch of 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:08.800 young kids. I know that, but they I'm saying, they know. 1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:11.000 My point is they played a bunch of football. Patrick 1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:13.759 Mahomes was playing the first preseason game, played the second 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:16.559 preseason game. This is when they had four preseason games, 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:19.080 even played a little the third, Like did you try 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:22.360 to get reps? You gotta get practice? Okay, you gotta 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:24.000 get reps. And why not play a series in the 1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:29.479 let and the third preseason game? Yes, okay. The only 1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:31.800 reason I'm saying not to because I know there's no 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:35.400 chance they are so I'm trying to be right. What 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:40.160 would you do? Yeah, Coach Boselli, I go playing a 1:27:40.240 --> 1:27:45.160 quarter in the final preseason game. Wow, well you just 1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:48.920 change your mind then, But I'm giving just giving both 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:53.320 sides of the story. He's gonna send him five minutes ago, Freddie, Freddie, 1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:57.040 flip Bob, what are you doing? What's that. I mean, 1:27:57.080 --> 1:28:00.240 I could be talked out of the third preseason. You 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:04.360 just flip lock. My point is can be talked out 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:09.559 of it, Pete. I am steadfast on the quarter two 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:12.400 quarters in a series in the third and then I 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:14.919 need to evaluate. How about this, I want to evaluate 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:16.720 where my team is going to the third piece. Does 1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:18.439 it matter? I mean, it depends on how they play 1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:20.280 in the second game. If they don't play well, okay, 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:21.960 you need to go out and play a game played great, 1:28:22.000 --> 1:28:24.720 then you're not playing. Yes, it matters. Okay, let's see 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:26.920 how sharp they are. That's why you said about You 1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:29.360 said reps. You want reps, you get more reps if 1:28:29.360 --> 1:28:31.120 you're playing the third preseason well, if you stink you 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:33.680 need more reps, yes, well what if you play well, 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.240 you just said you want more. You want reps, period. 1:28:36.320 --> 1:28:39.519 That's what you said. You said as a coach, you 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:42.680 would play them, Pete. There is a fine line when 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:45.920 there becomes the reps verse. The risk have to be wait, 1:28:46.080 --> 1:28:50.479 and that's true. I agree, So I probably would play 1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:55.320 them your first your first plan plus my series in 1:28:55.400 --> 1:28:58.360 the last game. I play one series in the last game, 1:28:59.360 --> 1:29:01.960 not three. It depends on what they do in the 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:05.000 second preseason game. That determines what I do, much like 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:08.840 Urban this past weekend determined Sunday after when he saw 1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:12.639 happen Saturday, because he saw the how his team practice, 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:15.280 how physical they were, and they were nick so he 1:29:15.400 --> 1:29:19.040 made a informed decision not to put the pads on Sunday. 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:24.040 I went with Urban. I evaluate my team. I'm gonna 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:27.200 do it's best for my team. Pete. So three offensive 1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:29.160 linement around in the final preseason game. Of course you 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:32.559 don't play them everybody's healthy. But if everybody's health, you play. 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:35.280 That's not true. If they come out and they're smoking 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:37.519 it in the second preseason game and they're tight, we 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:40.800 have a good week of practice and saying boys hang 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:45.439 outline rapid question. If this was a normal preseason with 1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:47.680 like it used to be, with four preseason games, how 1:29:47.720 --> 1:29:52.040 would you play him? I'd go, um, one series, I 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:56.120 mean two series. The first preseason game a quarter in 1:29:56.320 --> 1:29:59.080 a half kind of like somewhere a quarter and a 1:29:59.160 --> 1:30:04.760 little bit. Second preseason game, full half series in the 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:07.640 third preseason game. Nothing in the fourth preseason game. So 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:13.760 so two weeks before the regular season started, you would 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:17.880 play him more than a half. Now you're two weeks 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:19.760 out and you're only gonna you're not gonna play him. 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:22.560 He fell right into that one, and I probably, and 1:30:23.000 --> 1:30:24.840 really what I probably? I might not play him at 1:30:24.840 --> 1:30:26.840 all in the first preseason game. I saw that one 1:30:26.920 --> 1:30:31.320 coming a mile and a half half. That game's in Jacksonville. No, 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:34.400 I'm talking the old system, the four preseason game. But 1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:36.439 this guy, this time, you have to play him. Yeah, 1:30:36.479 --> 1:30:41.160 you play I would think I'm playing him. Yeah, let's 1:30:41.160 --> 1:30:43.400 see if we could go to break JP and Tony 1:30:43.400 --> 1:30:48.479 will change Urban. 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Glad you're long 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:17.240 with us, the first Monday show of the one campaign. 1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:21.240 J P. Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Frisco, your social questions 1:35:21.280 --> 1:35:24.280 coming up in moments. Tony Vasselli, you have a comment. 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:30.200 To be clear, there was no flip flopping, Pete, I 1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:33.760 said from the beginning, two series or a quarter in 1:35:33.840 --> 1:35:37.080 the first preseason game, a half in one series in 1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:40.920 the second preseason game, nothing in the third preason's preseason game. 1:35:41.000 --> 1:35:45.160 I then did make an amendment of a possibility if 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:49.759 the team did not play well and I needed more reps, 1:35:50.720 --> 1:35:53.519 that I'd be open to some time in the third 1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:57.759 preseason game. But you always have to weigh reps versus risk, 1:35:58.280 --> 1:36:01.920 and if you have a good camp, good first preseason game, 1:36:02.040 --> 1:36:04.839 good second preseason game, have a good week of practice. 1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:08.360 You do not need that third preseason game. I'm standing 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:11.080 by that. That's my position, and that's what I said. 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:14.400 It got muddled up because Pete likes the twist words 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:17.879 and take things out of context. He's a typical reporter 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:21.160 that misquotes you and then prints it in the paper 1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:26.160 and says, this is a story. Typical. Tony allowed two 1:36:26.200 --> 1:36:28.360 sacks today. But yeah, go ahead, you want to You 1:36:28.439 --> 1:36:30.840 wanna take a side on that? Hey, can you fix 1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:32.320 your your butt so they don't look like you're like 1:36:32.600 --> 1:36:36.920 looks like you're an alien? Hey, JP, you want to 1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:40.000 take it, take pick a side? Who is right? So 1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:42.680 we're keeping score on keeping it real? I think starting now, 1:36:42.800 --> 1:36:45.000 so I think Pete one, No, he did not, he 1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:48.640 copied me, said I do, Tony did no use. Then 1:36:48.680 --> 1:36:50.840 when I came back and I asked you, how would 1:36:50.840 --> 1:36:54.560 you handle it if it was a regular pond it 1:36:54.640 --> 1:36:56.920 both ways. I'm getting all kinds of tweets and saying 1:36:56.960 --> 1:37:05.479 Tony was clearly um clearer and conside wasn't use. Tell 1:37:05.479 --> 1:37:10.479 your family to make you look good? Concise is concise? 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:13.280 Is not in Tony's dictionary. That doesn't work, That's not 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:16.680 how it works for when I won the argument in 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:18.639 large part because when I came back and asked him 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:19.960 how he would play it if it was a four 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:22.599 week preseason like the old days, he said he would 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:25.479 have played him in the third week. And that was 1:37:25.800 --> 1:37:29.040 the case was closed. There bang the gabble, it's over, 1:37:29.320 --> 1:37:34.200 case dismissed. Pete wins. Get the case of Robert Mundabi. 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:41.000 And that's for a case on the winner. Losers get, 1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:44.120 winners get a game. I love it, and it pays 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:47.640 to win, man. I mean, so all year you'll get 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:49.200 you get a bottle. By the end of the year, 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:53.400 you'll have a case. Let's get to social media questions. 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:56.519 We put out the bat signal earlier today and here's 1:37:56.560 --> 1:37:59.360 the best we've come up with today at Stue Winners, 1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:03.040 guys were happy year back. I'm instating how much of 1:38:03.120 --> 1:38:05.760 a difference of sports performance model Meyer has run into 1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:07.760 the team has made. As I would have thought, by now, 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:10.559 most of not all clubs will be doing similar things 1:38:10.720 --> 1:38:13.920 in this area. Pete. They've added so many facilities here 1:38:13.960 --> 1:38:18.040 in the options and cryo tank, hot cold tubs, all 1:38:18.080 --> 1:38:21.960 these things that they didn't have before, and Urban has 1:38:22.040 --> 1:38:24.640 made an emphasis It's not the only place in the 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:27.960 league that does this, though, is it. No. I was 1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:30.320 in Miamti practice facility the other day. You should see 1:38:30.320 --> 1:38:32.840 the thing. It's incredible. They just built it. It's right 1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:35.479 outside the stadium. It's phenomenal and and that's the next 1:38:35.520 --> 1:38:38.120 step for Jacksonville. He kudos to Urban for bringing all 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:40.280 that stuff in there. You have to have it. They 1:38:40.360 --> 1:38:43.000 just don't have the room for it. They need a facility, 1:38:43.040 --> 1:38:44.960 and I think it's gonna get done. It needs to 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:49.400 get done. I will be real melancholy when they do 1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:52.960 build the practice facility, in large part because that means 1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:55.720 the days of the reporters sitting on the bench outside 1:38:56.040 --> 1:38:57.880 waiting for guys to come out to get the real 1:38:58.080 --> 1:39:04.560 story will be over. So the interesting thing about the 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:07.760 comment about the sports performance, I agree with Pete. I 1:39:07.840 --> 1:39:10.400 love it. As a player, do everything you can, I 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:13.040 mean as it's I mean for the players as a staff, 1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:15.080 do everything you can to make sure they're ready to 1:39:15.160 --> 1:39:17.559 perform at the highest level, and it gives them more 1:39:17.760 --> 1:39:20.360 value for themselves as well. I think it's great. I 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:24.400 love it. I would love in I mean paid the 1:39:24.439 --> 1:39:27.160 close enough attention. It would be interesting to do at 1:39:27.200 --> 1:39:30.880 the end of this camp does and it's such a 1:39:30.920 --> 1:39:32.840 small sample size. You perhaps to do it over years 1:39:33.240 --> 1:39:36.200 by having these extra facilities and these extra treatments and 1:39:36.520 --> 1:39:41.719 you know, cryoh and massage and hot, cold, warm, whatever tubs, 1:39:41.760 --> 1:39:44.200 I mean all the different stuff, which again all four 1:39:44.320 --> 1:39:46.320 I love it. As a player, I would have been 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:50.320 all about it. Is I wonder what the difference is. 1:39:51.479 --> 1:39:55.320 Is there a direct correlation to less injuries, especially soft 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:57.680 tissue injuries? I think that. I mean, you can't the 1:39:57.760 --> 1:39:59.560 guy blowing his knee out getting rolled up in a 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.519 pile in that. I mean, there's no bearing but soft 1:40:03.560 --> 1:40:07.040 tissue injuries. I wonder if there's a direct correlation that 1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:10.960 you can measure to be interesting, to be interesting, to 1:40:10.960 --> 1:40:12.680 measure that over a long period of time, I mean 1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:14.360 one year you're not gonna do it, but like over 1:40:14.560 --> 1:40:16.840 a five year period, did you lessen the number of 1:40:16.920 --> 1:40:19.800 soft tissue in injuries? Yet have come a long way 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:23.360 from sprinkling creaton on the French Fries and the Gaffetheria Like. 1:40:25.160 --> 1:40:28.320 It's amazing though, how a few people miss stuff back then, Pete, 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:30.320 only because everyone's afraid the death to go to the 1:40:30.360 --> 1:40:34.519 training room. You remember, do you remember remember when used 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:39.760 to being ocean, used to joke, remember everywhere. But you 1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:44.320 know what I mean, it's just it's a different mentality. 1:40:44.560 --> 1:40:48.360 I mean, it's incredible the facilities nowadays, and it's a 1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:50.479 player I would have loved it. If you don't pay 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:53.400 for it anymore. Your you know what Brian Flores told 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:55.559 me the day he goes. It keeps the guys around longer, 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:59.040 when it builds camaraderie, you don't. You don't get out 1:40:59.080 --> 1:41:02.160 of there quickly in the off season, even if because 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:04.560 there's so much right there. If you've got all that 1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:06.320 stuff right there, you don't need to go get a 1:41:06.360 --> 1:41:08.360 massage somewhere else. You don't need to go get crying 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:10.960 therapy somewhere else. The food is good. I mean it 1:41:11.080 --> 1:41:13.040 just it just makes sense for teams to do that. 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:15.960 I love it and I'm just jealous. Who wasn't around 1:41:15.960 --> 1:41:18.479 when I was a player. Let's move belong to our 1:41:18.560 --> 1:41:21.479 next question from at Jay Hopkins b G S. Has 1:41:21.560 --> 1:41:24.320 Cam Robinson or a walker Little reached out to Tony 1:41:25.600 --> 1:41:30.120 um One that's a private conversation. I'd like to you 1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:34.680 sound like a player that I have had um conversations 1:41:34.720 --> 1:41:38.839 with Cam over the years, and I traded text messages 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:41.640 with Walker after you got drafted, and I'll leave it 1:41:41.680 --> 1:41:46.120 at that. And we're not ready to call anybody baby 1:41:46.160 --> 1:41:49.080 BASSELLI yeah, just like over the years, every guy that's 1:41:49.120 --> 1:41:53.400 ever been called that, it's almost like a curse. Baby. 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:56.320 I'll say the same thing. And I know, Pete, you 1:41:56.400 --> 1:42:00.519 never you always like say oh stop number one, don't care, 1:42:00.840 --> 1:42:03.680 it's done, Like let them be their own players, like 1:42:03.760 --> 1:42:06.040 walk like Camera Robinson, let me go be the left tackle. 1:42:06.080 --> 1:42:08.720 And I hope, I hope he exceeds what I did, 1:42:08.840 --> 1:42:10.280 and I hope he's a better player than I was 1:42:10.400 --> 1:42:13.000 because that means it's good for our franchise. And if 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:15.640 it's not Camera Robinson, I hope it's Walker Little and 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:18.000 I hope John Taylor playing right tackles better than I 1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:20.400 was and better than Leon Cerci was. I mean, that's 1:42:20.439 --> 1:42:24.360 what you want for the franchise. I mean, any i'd 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:28.200 be leaning to know on. But Pete, you know what 1:42:28.240 --> 1:42:30.759 I mean. As an ex player, if you left the franchise, 1:42:30.800 --> 1:42:33.040 it's not like about like, oh, you don't want anyone 1:42:33.280 --> 1:42:35.720 like no, yes, I want him to be better. I 1:42:35.800 --> 1:42:37.439 want to have great careers. I want to make a 1:42:37.560 --> 1:42:38.840 ton of money, and I want us to win a 1:42:38.880 --> 1:42:42.559 super boy. Mike Pearson was baby BASSELLI never worked out. 1:42:43.000 --> 1:42:45.840 Luke Joe go baby BASSELLI never worked out. Maybe they 1:42:45.920 --> 1:42:48.360 stopped calling them that, Yeah I would. I never liked 1:42:48.840 --> 1:42:51.200 I never liked the Moniker anyways. Yeah, that and what 1:42:51.360 --> 1:42:55.200 they've had four or five padded practices in camp already. 1:42:55.560 --> 1:42:58.760 It's so early played a preseason game. Yeah, Logs and 1:42:58.800 --> 1:43:01.400 I were talking about that beat, like, the total amount 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:06.080 of padded practices they'll have in quote unquote camp, we 1:43:06.160 --> 1:43:10.559 would have had in the first week of camp. Think 1:43:10.560 --> 1:43:13.840 about that. It's incredible. I was telling one of the 1:43:14.080 --> 1:43:16.160 I was telling Shack Barrett he was all sweaty after 1:43:16.240 --> 1:43:18.320 practice and I go, he goes, it's hot out here, 1:43:18.360 --> 1:43:22.320 and I go, no idea, dude. Ray Perkins used to 1:43:22.360 --> 1:43:28.760 have three practices a day, three no padded. We never 1:43:28.800 --> 1:43:30.880 had three days. I remember we'd have to practice and 1:43:31.040 --> 1:43:33.479 the walkthrough and the two practice were in the heat 1:43:33.560 --> 1:43:36.639 of the day and they were both padded, and you're 1:43:36.640 --> 1:43:39.200 going full speed and just beating the hell out of me. Now. 1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:41.679 And by the way, this isn't the old guy said, 1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:44.519 Oh we were tougher. You should have been like my 1:43:44.680 --> 1:43:46.760 idea is like I like what they do now, Like 1:43:47.040 --> 1:43:49.400 it would have been better you guys would go to 1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:52.120 one than two again, right, it was never two two 1:43:52.200 --> 1:43:53.920 and two. No, it was so the first year it 1:43:54.000 --> 1:43:55.720 was too too too, too, too, too too two two. 1:43:56.800 --> 1:43:59.000 In the second year it was two too too, too, 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:01.560 too too two. The third year, when we thought we 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:07.479 got the break, it was two one to one. Right, 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:10.160 that's right Steven's point. It was too too, too, too, too, 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:13.080 for sure. And I thought the second year he evolved 1:44:13.080 --> 1:44:14.960 a little bit. Well maybe the second year was too 1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:17.560 to one to to one, and then it went to 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:21.599 one to one. But they were they were all in pad. 1:44:22.240 --> 1:44:25.639 Everything was in pads. You know what's gone middle drill 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:30.120 is gone nine seven then and where they pound it 1:44:30.240 --> 1:44:35.280 really hard the other day, ye first day in a 1:44:35.360 --> 1:44:37.000 lot of teams are how about like when you used 1:44:37.040 --> 1:44:39.720 to start practice with goal on, Remember that goal one 1:44:39.760 --> 1:44:42.559 was always they always had like after week one or something, 1:44:43.080 --> 1:44:46.280 goal line was live. It was a live drill. And 1:44:46.360 --> 1:44:49.240 that's even up to last last year, the last couple 1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:52.320 of years. But you always have to is anybody tackling 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:58.160 they don't tackle there? Right, No, I some places do though, yeah, 1:44:58.520 --> 1:45:01.519 not many. Though, let's get a couple more questions, and 1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:03.640 and let's go to the question number four, Brent and 1:45:04.000 --> 1:45:07.200 at duval Noll. If we keep six wide receivers, who 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:09.040 do we keep? Seems like it would be difficult to 1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:12.719 cut Treadwell at this point. Well, let's do a quick count. 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:15.160 And I got the list right here. Good for you. Um, 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:19.679 let's go, we got well, you know, Leviss's on the team, 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:24.439 Marvin Jones on the team. J J. Chark on the team. Yes, 1:45:24.520 --> 1:45:27.800 even though he had surgery, but yes, we did one. 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:36.840 Rebert Meyer said, okay, three, Um, didn't you start getting set? 1:45:39.400 --> 1:45:42.040 I already had a gun bunch right Colin Johnson, Colin Johnson, 1:45:42.080 --> 1:45:45.639 I'd say he's on the team. I think I think 1:45:45.720 --> 1:45:47.760 Jalen Camp is on the team because he's a big, 1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:50.160 physical guy who can play special teams. That think that's fine, 1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:53.840 but that's he's got to play special team. Agnew on 1:45:53.960 --> 1:45:56.479 the team. He's a kick returning special team doesn't really 1:45:56.560 --> 1:45:59.840 count as a receiver. Though. That's six? Need one more 1:46:00.000 --> 1:46:08.240 Sea tread Well? Seven? Who am I cutting? There's like receivers, 1:46:08.880 --> 1:46:11.919 but with which guy of any note is being caught Dorsett, 1:46:11.960 --> 1:46:16.479 Philip Dorset and Tavon Austin. They're both first round picks. Yeah, 1:46:16.520 --> 1:46:20.559 but they're older and maybe Now here's the thing. If 1:46:20.600 --> 1:46:24.280 you keep tread well and you keep camp jail and camp, 1:46:25.240 --> 1:46:27.760 do you get rid of calling Johnson because he doesn't run? 1:46:27.880 --> 1:46:31.200 And Urban Meyer like speed team and those other guys 1:46:31.240 --> 1:46:34.280 are big and fast. Colin Johnson is just big and 1:46:34.360 --> 1:46:39.000 not a speed speed guy. There are six receivers probably 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:42.639 on somebody else's roster right now. That could be another thing. Yeah, 1:46:42.800 --> 1:46:46.240 first waiver claim all that well, JP had him trading 1:46:46.280 --> 1:46:52.519 for Michael Thomas, which Pete immediately shut down, saying bad idea. 1:46:53.479 --> 1:46:56.640 First off, you do like speed, he doesn't run, No, 1:46:56.920 --> 1:46:59.840 he does not, big big guy. Let's get our final 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:02.840 question in at Dan eight three eight one. Who got 1:47:02.880 --> 1:47:06.640 in better shape during the break? Crisco or Bisselly. My 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:09.400 money's on the celly because I'm terrible. Yeah, I'm not 1:47:09.560 --> 1:47:13.599 much better the first. However, I would actually, I would 1:47:13.600 --> 1:47:18.840 actually see you. It's a tie for last. Yeah, it's not. 1:47:18.920 --> 1:47:20.880 I'm a Pete. I'm not in a good position because 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:23.920 it's it's fat ball season and I'm already fat. Yeah, 1:47:23.960 --> 1:47:26.479 but you know, what though. I had a lazy summer 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:28.679 and I've worked out and stuff. But I ate bad, 1:47:29.240 --> 1:47:31.599 you know, but I'm trying to be better leading into 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:33.840 the season. Give me a month. I got a hole 1:47:33.880 --> 1:47:35.120 in us to be coming up at the end of 1:47:35.160 --> 1:47:38.120 the month. Too much information, t M, I t M. 1:47:38.200 --> 1:47:44.040 I do not need to hear about your medical issues 1:47:44.320 --> 1:47:49.080 or procedures. A few of the five extra pounds underneath. 1:47:49.479 --> 1:47:53.519 That's great, Pete. This is a family show. Yeah great, 1:47:55.640 --> 1:48:00.400 let's come back. Thanks for the questions, every one. We'll 1:48:00.439 --> 1:48:03.960 get to him again next week. Let's come back. We'll 1:48:04.000 --> 1:48:07.000 go around the NFL wrap it up in our first 1:48:07.120 --> 1:48:11.120 Monday Happy Hour of the season. Yes, what a show 1:48:11.200 --> 1:48:18.960 it's been. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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I want to yes? 1:51:47.479 --> 1:51:49.960 What what of one of many things you hate what 1:51:50.040 --> 1:51:52.439 has want, Well this time here because Pete loves doing it. 1:51:52.640 --> 1:51:55.759 He loves cutting down the roster, he loves cutting people. 1:51:56.240 --> 1:51:57.680 You got about eight minutes if you want to do it. 1:51:58.240 --> 1:52:00.320 I hate it, like even going through the wider sceivers 1:52:00.320 --> 1:52:03.720 because like like Philip or Set might be the guy 1:52:03.840 --> 1:52:05.920 that may. I mean, we're sitting here like making guesses. 1:52:06.000 --> 1:52:08.639 It's not like we're watching enough tape to really determine 1:52:08.680 --> 1:52:11.040 who's having the better camp, whether it's Philip door said 1:52:11.160 --> 1:52:16.000 or you know, Colin Johnson or what they're looking for 1:52:16.800 --> 1:52:18.840 because a lot of times I think they're I think 1:52:18.880 --> 1:52:22.360 they're there six receivers not on the roster, you know, 1:52:22.439 --> 1:52:24.240 but but you don't know. And I mean I throughout 1:52:24.280 --> 1:52:26.439 Jalen camp out there, I'm just assuming that they you know, 1:52:26.520 --> 1:52:29.880 he's a good specialties player, he looks it, but I 1:52:29.880 --> 1:52:33.679 haven't watched one special team period. It also shows there's 1:52:33.680 --> 1:52:37.519 a significant drop from three down. Well, I think I 1:52:37.840 --> 1:52:40.840 think the message to the fans is and this is, 1:52:41.040 --> 1:52:45.120 you know, because you know who knows maybe uh Josh Hammond, 1:52:45.120 --> 1:52:48.240 who had a bunch of catches, maybe he you know, 1:52:49.040 --> 1:52:51.120 shows up and does something. I mean, who knows. I 1:52:51.200 --> 1:52:53.160 think the message more than anything. The three guys that 1:52:53.280 --> 1:52:55.519 we know I would I say, I don't know, I 1:52:55.560 --> 1:53:00.479 would be really confident are on the roster or d HRC, 1:53:01.000 --> 1:53:06.000 Marvin Jones and Levis Chanloo. And that's that's it. There's 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:07.800 a drop down after and then I think after that 1:53:07.920 --> 1:53:14.200 it's wide open. Yeah. Travis Travis et N plays wide 1:53:14.200 --> 1:53:17.360 receiver too. He lines up out there something. He's still 1:53:17.479 --> 1:53:20.320 running back, I know, but he plays out but it's 1:53:20.320 --> 1:53:22.680 like he's making some catches the last couple of days. 1:53:22.720 --> 1:53:25.400 By the way, it's like running back. It's easy. The 1:53:25.479 --> 1:53:27.519 top three I can tell you. I mean, unless something 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:30.680 drastic happens or someone gets hurt, it's Travis e t N. 1:53:30.920 --> 1:53:35.800 It's Carlos Hyde, it's James Robinson. Pretty easy, tight end, 1:53:35.920 --> 1:53:40.479 pretty easy. I don't know if Titans is easy. Number one, 1:53:40.520 --> 1:53:42.639 how many you're keeping four? Because one of them will 1:53:42.640 --> 1:53:49.800 be the fullback. So if you're keeping four, you're keeping Ohaughnessy, 1:53:51.120 --> 1:53:54.800 and then who else you keep the rookie Luke Farrell, Yes, 1:53:55.080 --> 1:54:01.479 and then you'd probably keep Elston and then you you 1:54:01.600 --> 1:54:05.479 got then it becomes Tyler Davis or Tebow. In the practice, squad, 1:54:08.000 --> 1:54:11.080 which I think it'll be Tyler Davis. I think Tebow 1:54:11.160 --> 1:54:12.800 is the six tight end on the at A six. 1:54:16.960 --> 1:54:22.120 Yeah you disagree, Um do I disagree from what I've seen? No, Okay, 1:54:22.640 --> 1:54:26.479 so you know, but I mean, but it's still earlier. 1:54:26.560 --> 1:54:28.920 I mean, there's so much stuff that can happen between now, 1:54:29.360 --> 1:54:33.200 especially talking about right now. But I think the Jaguars 1:54:33.280 --> 1:54:35.120 tight end some of the other ones. You know, it's 1:54:35.160 --> 1:54:38.720 like obvious the Jaguars tight end situation outside of O'Shaughnessy 1:54:38.880 --> 1:54:42.640 and uh Manners is wide open. It will be decided 1:54:42.720 --> 1:54:45.480 during the preseason. Kind of seemed like the same kind 1:54:45.520 --> 1:54:50.960 of guy to me, to be the like you like 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:53.400 you talk about Tebow, he's being the six guy. Okay, 1:54:53.640 --> 1:54:55.880 maybe Now, what if he goes out in games and 1:54:56.000 --> 1:54:59.120 just like dominates the one thing that you know, he 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:02.520 flashes it times good stuff. Then there's other things, like 1:55:02.640 --> 1:55:05.280 you watch his blocking ability. He needs to work on 1:55:05.360 --> 1:55:08.680 his physicality, especially if he's gonna be that fullback. Hasn't 1:55:08.720 --> 1:55:10.920 been great and what I've seen haven't seen it all. 1:55:10.960 --> 1:55:14.360 So maybe he's flash of the times being really physical. 1:55:14.440 --> 1:55:16.800 He's not a very physical player at the point of attack. 1:55:17.320 --> 1:55:19.120 The day I saw him. He they pulled him on 1:55:19.200 --> 1:55:21.280 a play and he ducked his head and the defensive 1:55:21.360 --> 1:55:23.400 end went right around them. And so if you want 1:55:23.440 --> 1:55:26.640 to be that move tight end fullback lead up on 1:55:26.720 --> 1:55:30.120 there in linebackers, you've gotta be a physical dude. And 1:55:30.680 --> 1:55:34.040 Jeff Logman said it best. Being physical and tough as 1:55:34.080 --> 1:55:38.880 a quarterback is different than being physical and tough as 1:55:38.960 --> 1:55:42.000 a position player like a tight end or full back. Okay, 1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:43.840 so what number is he as a tight end position? 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:49.320 Right now? In your mind? Haven't we just gone through this? Well? 1:55:49.400 --> 1:55:58.200 He I mean, can you really distinguish between Tebow, Elveson 1:55:58.400 --> 1:56:04.720 and Davis? Is it that is that big a deal? Yeah, David, 1:56:05.160 --> 1:56:07.560 I think it's between Davis and Tebow and the practice squad, 1:56:07.680 --> 1:56:09.640 That's what I mean. It's right now, and then they 1:56:09.720 --> 1:56:11.840 got three weeks to go, so I think it's early. 1:56:11.960 --> 1:56:14.240 Like that's still close, Pete, is my point is number one? 1:56:14.280 --> 1:56:17.160 You know, I hate this more than anything. That's why 1:56:17.240 --> 1:56:21.560 we do it. Number two, it is early, and like 1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:25.920 those are really competitive positions. Let's touch on some notes 1:56:25.960 --> 1:56:29.280 from around the National Football League. Pete, your guy in 1:56:29.520 --> 1:56:35.960 Buffalo got paid. Quarterback Josh Allen's bringing on the Bacon. Hey, look, 1:56:36.000 --> 1:56:37.920 they finally have their quarterback that they've been looking for 1:56:38.080 --> 1:56:41.200 from Jim Colty since Jim Kelly. All kinds of guy. 1:56:42.320 --> 1:56:47.520 Pat Patrick Mahomes signed one year too early. No, I mean, 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:51.680 tear that up again, bird in the hand. I guess 1:56:51.680 --> 1:56:54.160 here's my point. Did Patrick Mahomes signed too long of 1:56:54.240 --> 1:56:57.960 a deal? Probably? Yes, Like why wouldn't he just settled, 1:56:58.200 --> 1:57:01.000 I'll sign a four year deal? Right? He did sign 1:57:01.040 --> 1:57:02.720 too long a deal. I don't think there's any doubt 1:57:02.720 --> 1:57:04.560 about that. But how do you turn that money down 1:57:04.600 --> 1:57:08.960 when they put in front? It depends how much of 1:57:09.040 --> 1:57:12.560 that back in guaranteed though, Yeah, he got a lot 1:57:12.600 --> 1:57:15.680 of guaranteed money. Alan got more. You know, also got 1:57:15.720 --> 1:57:17.600 a lot of money. It was Shawn Watson and John 1:57:17.680 --> 1:57:21.280 mcclaim of the Houston Chronicle Today said, quote on Twitter, 1:57:21.480 --> 1:57:24.400 Watson will never play another down for the Texans end quote. 1:57:24.400 --> 1:57:26.880 So where's he playing? Who's going to trade for him 1:57:26.960 --> 1:57:29.320 right now? No? But it's it's too big a risk. 1:57:29.440 --> 1:57:33.160 I mean you can't. I mean there's crimical there's there's 1:57:33.200 --> 1:57:37.000 a criminal investigation. If I understand the lads reports going on, 1:57:37.600 --> 1:57:40.920 there's twenty two women who have civil charges against him. 1:57:41.160 --> 1:57:43.480 I'm not saying he's guilty. I'm just saying that's a 1:57:43.560 --> 1:57:46.040 lot of drama going on. And if I'm a GM, 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:50.000 I'm not trading first round draft picks plus getting up 1:57:50.000 --> 1:57:53.200 in salary for a guy that might not play for 1:57:53.520 --> 1:57:56.400 a while. And it's hard to It's hard in this 1:57:56.640 --> 1:57:58.840 climate and everything. It's hard to sell that to your 1:57:58.880 --> 1:58:03.240 fan base. You can't Giants running back c Klon Barkley 1:58:03.280 --> 1:58:06.280 will return from the pup list today. That was the plan. 1:58:06.440 --> 1:58:10.040 They certainly missed him a year ago. How much better? 1:58:10.440 --> 1:58:14.080 How much and how much better does does he make them? Pete? 1:58:14.920 --> 1:58:17.840 Well he makes them better, but he's a running back, 1:58:17.880 --> 1:58:20.760 you know how I feel about that? Um again, though 1:58:21.120 --> 1:58:23.240 he might not play week one, just an f y 1:58:23.320 --> 1:58:28.640 I because yes, not all the way back and Pete, 1:58:28.680 --> 1:58:31.720 but when didn't he get that hurt early in the season. Yeah, 1:58:32.600 --> 1:58:37.720 that's that's the opposite of Adrian Peterson's correct our final 1:58:37.800 --> 1:58:40.480 thought Hall of Fame induction speeches. In the enshrinement ceremony 1:58:40.520 --> 1:58:43.280 the last couple of days, Peyton Mannings was challenging everyone 1:58:43.360 --> 1:58:46.520 to make the game better. Tony, at what point in 1:58:46.600 --> 1:58:49.640 your speech will you include Pete Prisco. First of all, 1:58:49.800 --> 1:58:51.320 I have not been elected to the Hall of Fame. 1:58:51.400 --> 1:58:53.720 I don't know that like next year some breaking news, 1:58:53.800 --> 1:58:55.680 so I'm not going to talk about that. Thank you JP. 1:58:55.920 --> 1:58:58.680 Next year, next year, I will tell you this. J Pe. 1:58:59.360 --> 1:59:02.800 Over the course in the last decade, maybe not a decade, 1:59:02.840 --> 1:59:06.000 but eight nine years, seven eight nine years, I've pestered 1:59:06.000 --> 1:59:08.440 a lot of writers and they run from me now 1:59:08.520 --> 1:59:11.000 because they know I'm gonna talk about Tony and they 1:59:11.120 --> 1:59:13.320 literally I see him there go here he comes. And 1:59:13.440 --> 1:59:15.800 so this year, for the first time ever, guys have 1:59:15.920 --> 1:59:18.760 been coming up to me bringing it up and saying, 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:22.320 your guys getting in this year. We'll see like it. 1:59:22.600 --> 1:59:25.040 I like it. That's a good first show, guys. Pete 1:59:25.040 --> 1:59:28.120 will talk to you next week. Pete, you will later 1:59:28.240 --> 1:59:33.360 next Monday. So you're here now, I'm in Minnesota. Oh 1:59:33.560 --> 1:59:36.160 that's a little different from here. That's Pete Prisco, CBS 1:59:36.200 --> 1:59:39.640 Sports senior writer. That's Tony Baselli, prior of the Jaguars 1:59:39.720 --> 1:59:41.720 Left Tackle. I'm JP Shatterck will catch you next time. 1:59:41.800 --> 1:59:44.320 Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network