Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl drama, girl,
Speaker 2: all about them.
Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and
Speaker 3: our comic girl sharing for the right teams.
Speaker 2: Drama, Queens, girl girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you
Speaker 2: could sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama,
Speaker 2: Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens. You guys.
Speaker 4: Oh man, the mysteries are being you know, figured out.
Speaker 4: Untangled is the right word. That's what I said. I
Speaker 4: fell asleep right after I watched the episode. It was
Speaker 4: so emotionally intense. I had to take a nap, and
Speaker 4: now I'm like up ready to chat.
Speaker 2: I loved this episode. Though loved I've really loved it.
Speaker 2: We got so much. They packed a lot into this episode,
Speaker 2: and it was pretty seamless. I have to say, yes, right.
Speaker 5: It wasn't rushed like sometimes when they give you one
Speaker 5: sentence and you go arah. They just had to. It
Speaker 5: felt like everyone had time, yeah to do things and
Speaker 5: breathe and say things, and yet so much happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to actually do a rundown on the
Speaker 2: list of what happened. Here we go. But we have
Speaker 2: our synopsis.
Speaker 5: Let's see if the synopsis is accurate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Skills signs Jamie up for the
Speaker 2: soapbox Derby Race so fun. Haley has her first day
Speaker 2: as a teacher. It's harder than she thought. She also
Speaker 2: hires a nanny to get some much needed help at
Speaker 2: home as Nathan's still struggling. Brooke tries to convince Peyton
Speaker 2: to start her own record label while also deciding she
Speaker 2: wants to open a close over bro store in tree Hill.
Speaker 2: And it was directed by Paul Johansson. This is sort
Speaker 2: of some of the stuff that happened, but I actually
Speaker 2: have I have a list of how much we packed
Speaker 2: into this episode. It's quick. I'm just going to read it. Lindsey, Quinton,
Speaker 2: Lucas and Skills are basketball coaches, Brooke and Jamie Mouth
Speaker 2: in the real world. Intro Nanny Carey, Peyton and the label,
Speaker 2: Peyton and Lucas, drama, Nathan coping, Haley teaching, and then
Speaker 2: the three girls seen by the pool with all of
Speaker 2: us like reuniting for the first time. That's a lot
Speaker 2: of storyline and all of those actual storylines.
Speaker 4: And I love that everyone's doing miserably, like no one
Speaker 4: is lurishing, but we all look good, Like everyone looks
Speaker 4: really good and we are just failing upwards. Fan fantastic.
Speaker 4: This was the first episode my husband has ever seen
Speaker 4: anything of by the way, oh my gosh. Normally, you
Speaker 4: guys we watched the episodes together, and because of scheduling,
Speaker 4: we couldn't, so we all watched it separately today. And
Speaker 4: I'm sitting on my couch watching the episode, and halfway through,
Speaker 4: Jeffrey comes through and just sees all of us in
Speaker 4: trick and is like, I would like to know more
Speaker 4: about what's going on here, and just sits down and
Speaker 4: watches the last half of the episode and like was
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, it was sweet to have someone
Speaker 4: who's never seen anything stand up at the end of
Speaker 4: the episode and be like, I get it. That makes
Speaker 4: sense right on.
Speaker 5: Oh, Dad loves us.
Speaker 4: Dad loves us, and he acknowledged that we look like babies.
Speaker 4: It's like, you guys, who were you like twelve?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Really, okay, guys, Well, Dad loves Season five, Episode two,
Speaker 5: Racing like a Pro originally aired January eighth, two thousand
Speaker 5: and eight, And what an episode like, Paul did such
Speaker 5: a good job directing this episode.
Speaker 4: It all.
Speaker 5: I know we're going to talk about it for the
Speaker 5: next hour, but it really did all feel so real,
Speaker 5: so rooted, and I love that with our time jump.
Speaker 5: You said it, Hillary, everyone is having a hard time
Speaker 5: and it's being named. When Lucas meets you at trick,
Speaker 5: he tells you everything that's going wrong for everyone else. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he reminds you that you're not alone. It reminds the
Speaker 5: audience that if you're having a hard time in these
Speaker 5: major times of transition, you're not alone. And Paul as
Speaker 5: our director, managed to give such a packed episode that
Speaker 5: finally starts to give us answers on where everyone's been
Speaker 5: in these invisible four years.
Speaker 2: And with great performances. He is so good at drawing
Speaker 2: out good performances from everybody.
Speaker 5: And every single scene had room to breathe, you got
Speaker 5: to react to things before it cut to the next thing.
Speaker 5: I just I think he hit such a home run.
Speaker 2: With this one.
Speaker 4: Do you guys notice the lighting was different too, Like
Speaker 4: it's lit so much moodier, and like, especially the intimate
Speaker 4: scenes between just two people, it had that Peter Kowalski
Speaker 4: layer to it, where there's a little bit of nore
Speaker 4: to it where the shadows are as important as like
Speaker 4: what's lit up. And it just stood out because Peter
Speaker 4: originally was a camera operator on our show, and as
Speaker 4: we moved through a different DP, he moved up and
Speaker 4: had to match what the other guy did. But I
Speaker 4: feel like this, because we had a blank slate, Peter
Speaker 4: just got fancy pe.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, No, I miss Pete.
Speaker 5: I love that he brought it down. Pete's sort of
Speaker 5: signature thing, which was also so nice for us, was
Speaker 5: he would light a room, as you said, with a mood,
Speaker 5: and then he'd put these sort of glowballs, these beautiful
Speaker 5: soft lantern lights around and everything just felt a little.
Speaker 2: Sparkly, Yeah, little magical, dreamy. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And these people coming home to each other is supposed
Speaker 5: to feel a little sparkly, and the light communicates that
Speaker 5: in a really really cool way.
Speaker 2: I remember the scene out by the pool when you
Speaker 2: guys came out. I think that was our first I
Speaker 2: don't I feel like I didn't even see you when
Speaker 2: we shot the first episode back.
Speaker 4: No, we don't see each other.
Speaker 2: We didn't. We weren't scenes together. That was the first time, remember,
Speaker 2: But I even even on on set, I feel like
Speaker 2: that was the first time I remember seeing you after
Speaker 2: we came back. And I don't know if we shot
Speaker 2: these kind of intertwined these two episodes or something, but
Speaker 2: it's the first thing I remember filming anyway from season
Speaker 2: four is that moment, Sophia, when you and I realized
Speaker 2: they had been they were using the same red coloring
Speaker 2: in our hair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they were trying to get mine out because
Speaker 5: I'd done a movie that summer and I'd been a redhead.
Speaker 5: I'd played this like, oh that's why you're so red,
Speaker 5: so red, and they couldn't. We just couldn't color corrected enough.
Speaker 5: And yeah, the oh my god, it's not working.
Speaker 2: It's very renee Russo it's good. Good look on you.
Speaker 2: Oh I loved it.
Speaker 5: God, I love her. Good God. The Thomas Crown affair
Speaker 5: will never get hold to me. But what struck me
Speaker 5: in the scene I do remember to your point, like
Speaker 5: getting in that day and being like, ah, are all bad?
Speaker 5: Oh my god? What struck me in the scene that
Speaker 5: i'd forgotten because I you know, I have that same
Speaker 5: sort of sense memory when we all got to be
Speaker 5: together for the first time.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, I physically remember that day as well, like
Speaker 4: it's like like it was yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's so in there. And what I forgot that
Speaker 5: made me audibly gasp when I watched this was, oh
Speaker 5: my god, Brooke has not seen her godson since he
Speaker 5: was a baby. Yeah, and it was so like, wait,
Speaker 5: what you know he doesn't know her? Oh my god.
Speaker 5: The little cues the writing gave us on how much
Speaker 5: we all had to catch up on that Brooke and
Speaker 5: Peyton have been apart for so long, but you see
Speaker 5: their phone calls and that, and that Brooke doesn't know
Speaker 5: Jamie outside of pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: It's such a small moment, but it communicates so much.
Speaker 2: That's Paul too, by the way, because if you it's
Speaker 2: easy to in the script to just have shot like
Speaker 2: here comes Jamie, run around the corner. Everybody goes, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, Jamie, pick him up, give him a hug,
Speaker 2: twirl them around. But the fact that he had him
Speaker 2: kind of step out slowly and you took a second
Speaker 2: looking at him on the stairs then got everyone's reaction.
Speaker 2: That's those kinds of things create those moments. And I
Speaker 2: love that Brooke and Jamie really developed such a special
Speaker 2: relationship over the course of this season, in spite of
Speaker 2: the fact that she wasn't around for the beginning. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's her whole journey, right, is like she built up
Speaker 2: this whole empire and then it's not enough and she
Speaker 2: needs to get back to what is really meaningful.
Speaker 4: I remember thinking that was crazy when we shot it,
Speaker 4: like what do you mean you've never seen this kid,
Speaker 4: or you haven't seen this kid in years? And now
Speaker 4: that we're grown ups with jobs and we're just like
Speaker 4: all over the place, you know, it's so normal just
Speaker 4: to be like, whoa, you have a mustache? Now. You know,
Speaker 4: kids grow up really really fast, especially in those first years.
Speaker 5: And especially when you are at this sort of you know,
Speaker 5: personal relative empire of success. It's what we experienced doing
Speaker 5: our show. You move Away, you're gone for ten months,
Speaker 5: and then if you do a movie, you're gone for
Speaker 5: the whole year, and you want to chase your dreams
Speaker 5: and you want to do things, but years go by,
Speaker 5: and I mean I experienced it with family, like literal years,
Speaker 5: and then I realized I just knew a kid from photos. Yeah,
Speaker 5: while we did a show, we did this for nine years.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Social media has made it worse because you know, we
Speaker 2: think we're in touch, we think we're like all up
Speaker 2: to date.
Speaker 5: We feel like we know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I love how this episode opens because brook
Speaker 4: sneaking in Lucas's room is such an iconic thing from
Speaker 4: the high school years, and it feels nice to revisit
Speaker 4: an old habit that ends up being you know, a
Speaker 4: little spicy, a little.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 4: It's so hard to hate Mikayla, But what I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say is that watching the episode like being Peyton Sawyer
Speaker 4: deep down inside. You guys, I still feel jealous that
Speaker 4: all my friends like her so much and that I
Speaker 4: like her so much like I felt Peyton's feelings of like, God,
Speaker 4: she's so pretty and she's really cool, and like she
Speaker 4: really seems to have it together and everybody likes her
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's so great.
Speaker 5: Because she is undeniable.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she's a real deal for sure. But you
Speaker 4: guys were cute.
Speaker 5: It was so fun.
Speaker 4: I like that everyone is just kind of meeting her organically,
Speaker 4: because that's what happens in a small town, as much
Speaker 4: as Peyton wants to avoid it. Ah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and I remember that day with Mikaylax that
Speaker 5: was the first day I met her, and I remember
Speaker 5: sitting in the cash chairs in the living room of
Speaker 5: Karen's house and getting to chat and learning about what
Speaker 5: she was up to, and she had all these questions
Speaker 5: for me about, you know, Wilmington and the whole thing,
Speaker 5: and it was so much fun. And I remember thinking like, Wow,
Speaker 5: it can be so nerve wracking to get new people,
Speaker 5: you know, inserted into your work family and you seem
Speaker 5: really fun.
Speaker 2: She's so solid, so well spoken, intelligent and asks really
Speaker 2: good questions and insightful, totally totally born to be an artist.
Speaker 2: She actually she is an incredible fine artist as well.
Speaker 2: For anyone who doesn't know much about Mikayla McManus, she'd
Speaker 2: go find out. She's really really talented girl.
Speaker 4: Let's make sure we have her on in the next
Speaker 4: couple episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mikayla and we went to
Speaker 4: college together.
Speaker 5: Wait we know each other?
Speaker 4: No, yes, we went to college together. Super in passing,
Speaker 4: like because I was also working at MTV, so it
Speaker 4: was a little checked out of everything. But we're Fordham
Speaker 4: Lincoln Center girls.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
Speaker 4: It's like it's weird when it feels like the whole
Speaker 4: world is a small town. You know, we do a
Speaker 4: TV show about a small town, but honestly, to come
Speaker 4: from New York and then be down in Wilmington and
Speaker 4: have it be like you remember this chick from the
Speaker 4: dorm and it's like, oh, she's really pretty a canissler.
Speaker 4: She was great wow, and she matches Lucas's kind of
Speaker 4: like serious energy in a way that Peyton never did.
Speaker 4: Peyton's goofy man, She's like awkward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt that pang when I was when Peyton
Speaker 2: was watching Lucas and Lindsay at the Grace Car thing
Speaker 2: when they arrived and he was holding her hand and
Speaker 2: they were just walking through the crowd, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've totally been in Peyton's shoes where you look at
Speaker 2: the couple and you're like, You're like, I don't want
Speaker 2: her to be right for him, but I think she
Speaker 2: is es sucks.
Speaker 4: I love shooting that flashback stuff because I got to
Speaker 4: wear those dumb little bangs. I love those No listen.
Speaker 4: I got a call like from my mother when the
Speaker 4: episode aired and she was like, don't chew ever cut bangs.
Speaker 4: Don't you do it? It looked terrible and so I'm
Speaker 4: still traumatized. By the Peyton book signing bangs, which is
Speaker 4: I've never had the confidence to go do it.
Speaker 2: I hope he saved them. At least you could clip
Speaker 2: him in now.
Speaker 4: And then Sophia, don't you have fake bangs?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, as a person who made that
Speaker 5: mistake and cut real banks not once but twice, I
Speaker 5: then learned to not make the same mistake a third time.
Speaker 5: And it might have been Jojo was like, I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna get you a clip in said please stop this.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay. She was like, when you really
Speaker 5: want them, you just wear them for a night, and
Speaker 5: she's not wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5: You know what I will say to the contrast, like,
Speaker 5: something I love so much is that the episode opens,
Speaker 5: that's sweetness and that being so enamored for Lindsay with
Speaker 5: someone she knows but not personally, and for Brooke with
Speaker 5: someone she doesn't know at all but who seems great
Speaker 5: and they're sort of like, wow, Wow, you're fun, No,
Speaker 5: you're fun. It's this fun energy. And to go from
Speaker 5: this sort of excitement to the nerves which are exciting
Speaker 5: of Haley's first day of like, oh what was it
Speaker 5: going to be like? And and it almost feels like
Speaker 5: the fun stuff on the front end was a misdirect, Yes,
Speaker 5: and we expected the fun to keep going, especially for
Speaker 5: Haley James Scott, especially right.
Speaker 4: I was just like they teed us up for success
Speaker 4: and then it like hurt really bad.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was such a betrayal.
Speaker 2: That was awful.
Speaker 5: I was upset. Yeah, how was that for you to watch?
Speaker 2: Sad? It was funny? I forgot, I really, I mean
Speaker 2: that is like one oh one. You cannot let the
Speaker 2: class take over and bully like bully you and get
Speaker 2: you pushed down to the point where you're you cry,
Speaker 2: you leave. I mean, I think just as a teacher, you.
Speaker 4: Know you.
Speaker 2: Lose so much power in the classroom if you ever
Speaker 2: let that happen to you. So the fact that it
Speaker 2: happened on day one, sojers are so scary.
Speaker 5: They are.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that I would have acted very
Speaker 2: much different. I mean, I don't know what I would
Speaker 2: have done at twenty What was Haley like twenty three
Speaker 2: teaching a high school class? Come on, maybe younger?
Speaker 4: That's so weird. Yeah, I had a really young teacher
Speaker 4: who had to be really mean, like the first year,
Speaker 4: and then lighten up as we you know, got older,
Speaker 4: just to like prove point, because you know they're our age,
Speaker 4: you know, And I I was I think we brought
Speaker 4: this up a few episodes ago. I was recently with
Speaker 4: my best friend and we were listening to my son
Speaker 4: and his friends talk about one teacher in particular, and
Speaker 4: my friend turned to me and he's, like, kids bully
Speaker 4: adults just as much as they bully each other. And
Speaker 4: I can't imagine like going home at the end of
Speaker 4: the day after being a teacher and being like, those
Speaker 4: little shits really got to me, Like is my outfit flame?
Speaker 4: Is my hair? Is my reading voice laying? You know,
Speaker 4: like whatever it is that the kids zero in on,
Speaker 4: they can make you feel just as awful as your peers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I liked that Haley had this duel.
Speaker 2: I had this dual approach that she went in on
Speaker 2: the first day trying to be very amiable and giving
Speaker 2: them all the benefit of the doubt and like I'm
Speaker 2: going to be really sweet and like the sort of
Speaker 2: jumping around the blackboard and like it was all And
Speaker 2: I don't even know that this was intentionally a choice
Speaker 2: that I made so much as just I guess what
Speaker 2: was feeling in the moment, like, oh, let's make this
Speaker 2: fun for everyone, Like almost the instinct would be like
Speaker 2: you'd behave that way with maybe an elementary school class.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 5: I felt that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt very condescending, but not intentionally.
Speaker 4: You have a little child, and so in your brain
Speaker 4: you're like, I talk to children like.
Speaker 2: Children exactly exactly. So then to get the root awakening,
Speaker 2: and I love the way she comes back later and
Speaker 2: just okay, tough mom. Now it's tough love time.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought that was really fun.
Speaker 4: Are they setting you and Quintin up for something inappropriate?
Speaker 4: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: No, but god, we had good chemistry and we Yeah,
Speaker 2: Sobby is so great.
Speaker 6: He's great.
Speaker 5: But but I love that because we again it's it's
Speaker 5: just it's tracking so well. We've seen Haley as a
Speaker 5: mom now to a four year old, and you do
Speaker 5: the smile and you even enjoy I mean you use
Speaker 5: like your big, pretty cursive like you were having a
Speaker 5: whole moment. Yeah, and and the the shock of like, oh,
Speaker 5: these feudal little fuckers are trying to create a hierarchy.
Speaker 5: I gotta completely change my game. Yeah, Like, as an audience, member.
Speaker 5: We see you go from Jamie's mom to like that
Speaker 5: don't fuck with me teacher, and it's so fun.
Speaker 4: Well that those kids have no idea that you tamed
Speaker 4: Nathan Scott who was the bad of the bad, Like
Speaker 4: Nathan Scott was awful, stealing school buses like your nightmare,
Speaker 4: and you tamed him at you know, sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's done, especially after that deal with him in
Speaker 2: the kitchen. It was like she went back to school
Speaker 2: the next day like I'm done. I'm done trying to
Speaker 2: make everybody happy and trying to please everybody and trying
Speaker 2: to hold everything together and pretend like everything's fine.
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 2: Here's what we're gonna do. It's this way or you're out.
Speaker 2: I just don't have time, I don't have the energy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but everybody needs a turn like that in life. I've
Speaker 2: hit those moments. I know you guys have, and I
Speaker 2: hit them. You know, it's not just once. It happens
Speaker 2: in life as you Oh yeah, go on and on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if that felt necessary and rewarding for her,
Speaker 2: oh yeah.
Speaker 5: And it feels nice when you do it and you
Speaker 5: go I'm different. Now you're learning in this moment, you're
Speaker 5: picking up what I'm putting down, but I've put it
Speaker 5: down already and I dare you, and everyone.
Speaker 1: Is like, oh, they feel the dynamic shift, and that
Speaker 1: is it's so fun.
Speaker 5: And I like that you didn't have to make the
Speaker 5: connection that Quentin is a version of Nathan. I like
Speaker 5: that they that they placed the a version of the
Speaker 5: man that Haley tamed, they place a new one in
Speaker 5: front of her. It causes a struggle and as she's
Speaker 5: figuring out how to deal with it in this way,
Speaker 5: in this version, it's actually Lucas and Skills that are like,
Speaker 5: who does he remind you of? And they don't even
Speaker 5: have to say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lucas, Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4: Well there's yeah, you'll do it once. Y'all gotta do its.
Speaker 2: Skills and Lucas as coaches stepping in for Whitey genius
Speaker 2: move and so fun, so fun to see, and they're
Speaker 2: good at it too.
Speaker 4: I want to know what happened at Tree Hill High
Speaker 4: School in the four years that we've been gone, that
Speaker 4: the kids have gone dark, they've gone feral. It's like
Speaker 4: we still have the same principle, you know, like nothing
Speaker 4: necessarily traumatic happened on a national scale but now you've
Speaker 4: got a rebellious basketball team and you've got these nasty
Speaker 4: kids in the classroom causing trouble.
Speaker 2: What happened is it felt much more modern. It felt
Speaker 2: much less like the One Tree Hill fairy tale that
Speaker 2: we had created that were still connected to the late nineties,
Speaker 2: even though we've started filming in the early odds that
Speaker 2: this crowd felt much more forward, forward moving in the
Speaker 2: progression of like social society, I guess, and just the
Speaker 2: way that they were all interacting with each other in
Speaker 2: the banter and it just was like, whoa, this is
Speaker 2: a live This is so different than fairy taling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it felt messier and more authentic. Yeah, do you
Speaker 5: guys feel like it was partially one of those things
Speaker 5: that like all the criticisms we got of everything being
Speaker 5: too fantastical, to fairy tale, too squeaky clean, blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: that they were like, all right, watch this, Like now
Speaker 5: that we've had a time jump, we can we can
Speaker 5: kind of address the message boards and the articles.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, I think when we were the mad kids in
Speaker 4: the class, like there was an episode where like Nathan
Speaker 4: and Lucas got in a fight in the classroom, or
Speaker 4: like there was a time where Lucas got in trouble
Speaker 4: because he and Peyton were passing notes and kissing and
Speaker 4: stuff like you were sleeping with a teacher, Brooke. I mean,
Speaker 4: we got right in trouble. We got in trouble. But
Speaker 4: when you're the adult and the kids look at you
Speaker 4: like you loser, it just feels different. Like they're not
Speaker 4: doing anything that we didn't do. It's just different main
Speaker 4: character energy. These kids are assuming the main character energy
Speaker 4: and treating us like we don't matter.
Speaker 5: But what's also so interesting about that? And like you
Speaker 5: just ding a light bulb in my head? This is
Speaker 5: human right. When you know someone, you can see the
Speaker 5: motivations for their actions. You can forgive their transgressions. You
Speaker 5: can say you have a really screwed up home life
Speaker 5: and that's why you look for validation. And older men,
Speaker 5: young lady, you have a fill in the blank. Fill
Speaker 5: in the blank. When you don't know anything about someone's
Speaker 5: life or background and they behave in a way that
Speaker 5: feels disrespectful or unruly, you go, who are these little
Speaker 5: shit heads think they are? You don't forgive or humanize
Speaker 5: their messiness. You just think, wow, that was really bold.
Speaker 5: And out of line, and that is kind of fascinating.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out what Quentin's damage is
Speaker 4: because he is so handsome and so TALENTEDO. It makes
Speaker 4: it really easy to hate him because he's got so
Speaker 4: much going for him and he's still being like, you know, confrontational.
Speaker 2: But you're rooting for him because you know there's so
Speaker 2: much room to change, there's so much room for growth,
Speaker 2: and he's just posturing. He's just a high school kid
Speaker 2: who's posturing.
Speaker 4: Oh that laugh he does when he's leaving the gym. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when he's like leaving your classroom and he's just laughing.
Speaker 4: It's just it's like you can feel his hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like you can feel that he's a kid totally masking.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things too, that I think I
Speaker 2: loved about the way this was put together and the
Speaker 2: way Paul directed my performance in that that he was
Speaker 2: it's not a power struggle. You're not trying to dominate
Speaker 2: the room. You're just you're fed up in every area
Speaker 2: of your life, and you're just coming in and being honest.
Speaker 2: And there's no sense in not just being honest. So
Speaker 2: just tell these kids exactly how you feel. And you
Speaker 2: don't have to be mean to be honest. You can
Speaker 2: just be honest. And so I remember doing that and
Speaker 2: it changed everything for me because instead of me trying
Speaker 2: to be tough and dominate, I just was able to,
Speaker 2: like I felt a lot more compassion, and that I
Speaker 2: think made me connect more with Quenton and hopefully like
Speaker 2: started to draw them together a little bit more, Hele
Speaker 2: and Quentin, because when you stop trying to dominate and
Speaker 2: you're just real, just totally authentic, like you said, Sophia,
Speaker 2: and in the moment and there, it's so much easier
Speaker 2: to I guess read other people have compassion or just
Speaker 2: see things from their perspective.
Speaker 4: When he has no idea what you're dealing with at home.
Speaker 4: And this is something that I really struggled with in
Speaker 4: the episode because when we shot this, like when we
Speaker 4: were kids, four months of Nathan being dark seemed like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's crazy. And as a grown up
Speaker 4: lady watching this, I'm like, he's only been down for
Speaker 4: four months, Like why is Haley flipping the fuck out?
Speaker 4: Like it made Haley seem crazy that she was so
Speaker 4: angry with him four months out, when meanwhile, the audience
Speaker 4: is getting to see him in private, try to stand up,
Speaker 4: and so it's just like, oh god, this is going
Speaker 4: so bad.
Speaker 2: Like just missing each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need a therapist so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, four months can feel like a really
Speaker 2: long time when you're juggling everything and doing everything.
Speaker 5: And four months with a four year.
Speaker 2: Old, that's what I mean. Yeah, it's just so Now.
Speaker 5: When you think about four months being thirty percent of
Speaker 5: a year, and this kid's probably had memory for two years.
Speaker 4: They remember everything.
Speaker 7: Two years, Like, it's amazing.
Speaker 5: It's three years, let's call it. But it's amazing because
Speaker 5: you get everyone's perspective. Yeah, that's when it works, is
Speaker 5: when everybody is understandable and everybody is frustrating. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: you just go, ah, I just want better for these
Speaker 5: people because I love them, Nathan.
Speaker 2: I love that you just brought him up because he
Speaker 2: this this is a real mental health struggle for him,
Speaker 2: and I love that they really did a deep dive
Speaker 2: on it in this episode and in this season. That's
Speaker 2: got to be so incredibly tough to have made a
Speaker 2: huge success out of your life that young and be
Speaker 2: have so much ahead of you and then get get
Speaker 2: disabled in some way.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's it felt like character assassination to me. Joy,
Speaker 4: it felt like they were making you this like shrill bitch,
Speaker 4: because we've already seen Nathan and try to kill himself
Speaker 4: multiple times. We know that he has a history of
Speaker 4: self loathing and suicidal behavior and never had to deal
Speaker 4: with anything quite this traumatic. You know, he crashed the
Speaker 4: car into the wall and was playing basketball like three
Speaker 4: weeks later this he's in a wheelchair, and it's so
Speaker 4: so serious, and so to have Haley, who has historically
Speaker 4: been really supportive and like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take a different approach. I'm going to try something different.
Speaker 4: To just have her throwing, you know, throwing the beer
Speaker 4: bottles and smashing plates and stuff. I was like, why
Speaker 4: are they making her.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, shrill is a good word.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to feel aligned with the person that we've
Speaker 4: always known.
Speaker 5: I liked it, you did. I liked oh. I liked
Speaker 5: every bit of it. And here's what I'm gonna say,
Speaker 5: I I hear you on all of Nathan's mental health stuff,
Speaker 5: and You're not wrong. We've spent four years worth of
Speaker 5: this TV show talking about it, and I do think
Speaker 5: there is a tendency to align your idea of someone
Speaker 5: with the way they're described. And Nathan Scott is our
Speaker 5: hero and our sweetheart. He is a bad boy done
Speaker 5: good because of this woman he like, he is such
Speaker 5: a champion, and yes, he's had these horrible things, and
Speaker 5: we as adults in the last year have gone, oh
Speaker 5: my god, this is a boy with like serious mental
Speaker 5: health fatures. But they've never been willing to really address
Speaker 5: it on camera until this and throughout all of it.
Speaker 5: Haley's been with him throughout all of it. She's reminded him, yes,
Speaker 5: if this were the real world, he would have gone
Speaker 5: to therapy. And if this were the real world, four
Speaker 5: months into a catastrophic accident, as adults, I think we
Speaker 5: would be different. But it's TV drama and I love
Speaker 5: that from the way she behaves, you can see that
Speaker 5: whenever she's mad, she takes a deep breath and keeps going.
Speaker 5: And whenever he fucks up with their son, she takes
Speaker 5: a deep breath and just says, sweetie, daddy doesn't feel good.
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, and we jump in. All your friends
Speaker 5: are coming, We're coming. It's gonna be amazing. It's been
Speaker 5: a lot of jumping in to cover for him and
Speaker 5: I like that when no one is just telling the truth,
Speaker 5: eventually everybody loses it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like it for her because she's always been good,
Speaker 5: and I like it because she's always cleaned up everybody's messes.
Speaker 5: And when you yelled and then walked in the kitchen
Speaker 5: and the argument was over and then you threw all
Speaker 5: the bottles, I was like, God, I'm not waiting for
Speaker 5: this from her. I loved it.
Speaker 4: I was thinking as I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: who bought the bear? There was no uberat who bought
Speaker 4: the goddamn bear?
Speaker 5: Because yes, I didn't even think about that part.
Speaker 2: Maybe even Haley was doing it. That beer bottle thing
Speaker 2: was totally improvised. Paul said, what do you I just
Speaker 2: was so uncomfortable. I was like, he said, what do
Speaker 2: you want to do? I was like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: want to throw these beer bottles across the room, but
Speaker 2: obviously I can't. He's like, why not because they're props.
Speaker 2: He goes, WHOA, we'll get in one take, do it.
Speaker 2: And we didn't tell James, so his reaction on the
Speaker 2: couch was real. He had no idea what was going
Speaker 2: on behind him.
Speaker 5: That was amazing.
Speaker 2: But you know what you said just made me think
Speaker 2: the one thing that flipped the switch. I think Hillary,
Speaker 2: because I totally I do hear what you're saying. Nathan
Speaker 2: historically has even through all of his struggles. I correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he's ever
Speaker 2: been someone who was a complainer or like was felt
Speaker 2: really sorry for himself. He never really did the pity
Speaker 2: party thing.
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: I guess to me, it was like four months. Haley
Speaker 4: was on tour for four months. You know, like a
Speaker 4: four month periodod of time doesn't feel so fatalistic, I guess.
Speaker 2: But when you're with living, living with somebody who just
Speaker 2: is refusing to like they just keep feeling sorry for
Speaker 2: themselves over and for so long, and there's like you
Speaker 2: have a grace period. We're like, oh my gosh, you've
Speaker 2: just been in a horrible accent. Of course, anybody would
Speaker 2: feel sorry for themselves. Yes, yes, And then it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: we are we kind of coming out of that. And
Speaker 2: then the next phase is like okay, but like life
Speaker 2: has to go on. I actually have to do you care?
Speaker 2: Can you at least empathize? Could you like be emotional
Speaker 2: and like talk with me about it at least we can.
Speaker 2: So it feels like maybe they just sped that progression
Speaker 2: up because that's the flip that got switched.
Speaker 5: I also think the four months, Yeah, not the best
Speaker 5: writing we've ever had, Yeah, in an episode that is
Speaker 5: filled with very good writing. But what I think is
Speaker 5: important to remember, and I wish they would have repeated
Speaker 5: it with you, Joy and not just with you and
Speaker 5: your scene as Peyton taking Nathan to the hospital Hill.
Speaker 5: I wish they would have repeated the thing from episode one,
Speaker 5: which is, but your doctors said you can walk. Remember
Speaker 5: that fight you guys have.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, that's what we're missing because the whole reason
Speaker 7: she's so upset it's not my husband's never gonna walk again,
Speaker 7: and I understand that maybe forever he'll be sad.
Speaker 5: It's they're telling you you can and you're refusing because
Speaker 5: you can't. You think you can't play basketball. Yeah, So
Speaker 5: because you can't play basketball, you don't want to play
Speaker 5: with our son.
Speaker 6: You don't want to crawl around on the floor with
Speaker 6: your kid.
Speaker 5: That gives it everything, And that's a miss. That's a
Speaker 5: miss in the episode because if we had been reminded
Speaker 5: that he was choosing this in some.
Speaker 4: Way, y'all, I'm just thinking about postpartum depression. I'm like,
Speaker 4: four months. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: No, they could have made it a year or two.
Speaker 2: They could have made it like it had been in
Speaker 2: a while for sure. Yeah, I think you're right. Happy meeting.
Speaker 4: I loved seeing him secretly try, like because a number
Speaker 4: of times he's like by himself trying to stand up,
Speaker 4: and then that last time where you think he's finally
Speaker 4: just gonna commit suicide and he jumps up out of
Speaker 4: the water like free Willie. Yes, Jeff was like, what
Speaker 4: kind of show is this?
Speaker 5: It's the best baby. It reminded me of the season
Speaker 5: four shot when you know the episode where we all
Speaker 5: took our class pictures with the partners. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 5: I did the not enough, not enough, not enough and
Speaker 5: Nathan was in front of the wings holding the basketballs.
Speaker 5: It gave me that same like it mirrored that in
Speaker 5: some way totally, And it's like, Nathan Scott is back.
Speaker 2: He's always going to be a hero. That's who he is.
Speaker 2: Deep down. He's got that really cool. I'm gonna jump
Speaker 2: in the car and go take Maria to tennis, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and jump back into the zoom from
Speaker 2: my car, so at least I can pop in my
Speaker 2: every once in a while. But I'll be back in
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 4: By the way, I love I love this. She's doing tennis.
Speaker 5: I have to say something speaking of scenes by that pool,
Speaker 5: because we talked about this last week or maybe it
Speaker 5: was the week before, but I went, oh, that you
Speaker 5: and I got assigned the well well right as shared dialogue.
Speaker 5: And then what was the next thing? I said, Oh, Nathan,
Speaker 5: you look so harrow in chic.
Speaker 4: He say it, Oh, there are only so many lines
Speaker 4: that our boss had in his repertoire. And like, if
Speaker 4: he knew you were mad at him or didn't want
Speaker 4: to engage, he would make you say these things to
Speaker 4: kind of like remind you of him. And yeah, I
Speaker 4: felt his dirty, little, grubby, no fingernail hands all over
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 5: It was always a this. It was always a like,
Speaker 5: I'm going to put you in your place. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: remind you. If it's on the page, you have to
Speaker 5: say it. And it was like and I just was like, right, right, right,
Speaker 5: Brooke and Peyton are having this beautiful moment where they've
Speaker 5: come home to each other and now we're gonna go
Speaker 5: out into our world and start seeing all of our
Speaker 5: friends again. Yeah, and you're gonna make us do it
Speaker 5: with the creepiest things that you say to us. Ill.
Speaker 5: Gross gross, Ill.
Speaker 4: Dude, where are Peyton and Brooks staying right now? I
Speaker 4: can't figure it out.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that you spent the night at
Speaker 4: Mouth's house. That was my favorite, because that's what we
Speaker 4: do in real life. I like it. I went out
Speaker 4: with my girlfriends this past week and woke up and
Speaker 4: was like, who put me to bed?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best.
Speaker 5: It's so fun as an adult to be like, I'm
Speaker 5: going to sleep here. And now. The cool thing is
Speaker 5: is at our age, everyone's like hold on and they
Speaker 5: open a drawer and there's just a bunch of new
Speaker 5: toothbrushes and you're like, ma'am, really, we're really doing it right.
Speaker 4: We're prepared for debauchery now.
Speaker 5: I loved that wake up so much and like, oh,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I have to go and I've got
Speaker 5: to get Jamie and running around collecting the things, talking
Speaker 5: to him and then having this moment of oh, you're here.
Speaker 5: It was such a fun scene. That's one that's one
Speaker 5: that I remember, Like in my bones.
Speaker 4: You're so good with him, like it was your babysitting
Speaker 4: skills were on full display here, because I mean, you
Speaker 4: just take to it so naturally, and he's so drawn
Speaker 4: to you. And you guys were doing in real life
Speaker 4: what you're doing on the show. You know, like, we
Speaker 4: didn't know this kid, and you're making a relationship with
Speaker 4: him the same way Brooke is making a relationship with Jake.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he became my little best friend. It was
Speaker 5: so fun. We had so much fun at work together.
Speaker 5: And I remember everything from you know, his little suit
Speaker 5: and helping him zip it up and talking about how
Speaker 5: I would have made it for him. And he loved
Speaker 5: the story, and you know, swinging him in and out
Speaker 5: of his Derby car and like we God, we just
Speaker 5: had so much fun. It's such a sweet moment in time.
Speaker 4: Jeff saw the Peyton Sawyer unemployed patch and one so bad.
Speaker 4: He's like, where do they Where do they sell those?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know they do. He's like, no,
Speaker 4: I want that, I need that.
Speaker 8: We should make one.
Speaker 4: Here's what I remember from this episode. I didn't realize
Speaker 4: it happened this early in the season, but this this
Speaker 4: Derby car episode is the one where my childhood friend
Speaker 4: Scott Krapatrick died in Iraq, And you can see it
Speaker 4: on my face when Peyton and Brooke have to walk
Speaker 4: from the river where you've thrown your phone and I
Speaker 4: got to just hide in you and we're you know,
Speaker 4: we walk back up, we see Lucas and Lindsay. We
Speaker 4: have to walk past them and you're having band with
Speaker 4: Jamie from like the Crowd, and you can see like
Speaker 4: my face is all red, like I'm clearly super upset.
Speaker 4: But that was such a surreal day because everyone was there.
Speaker 4: We were down by the river. We had a ton
Speaker 4: of work to do that day, and I'll just never
Speaker 4: ever forget it. It was like I got the message
Speaker 4: in my trailer. I went straight to JoJo's door in
Speaker 4: the hair and makeup trailer and you were there, and
Speaker 4: it was just like, I don't know, I got to
Speaker 4: hide in you and you didn't leave me alone on set,
Speaker 4: like we hit out at our chairs. Antwine's son was
Speaker 4: there during the whole box car race, and it just
Speaker 4: felt really safe after we'd already dealt with all this
Speaker 4: chaos at work, Like I see it in the episode,
Speaker 4: I see Peyton and Brooke, but I see you and
Speaker 4: me behind it, being like we're dealing with some really,
Speaker 4: really horrible dark shit and we're just gonna team up.
Speaker 4: I don't let anyone else get in the way. And
Speaker 4: it's weird to watch it all these years later because
Speaker 4: I can feel it. I remember what, I literally remember
Speaker 4: every single step of that day. But yeah, to see
Speaker 4: it just like kind of mixed into an episode, sprinkled
Speaker 4: in thanks for taking care of me. We've told that
Speaker 4: story at conventions and stuff before, but I will never
Speaker 4: I will never forget that that was. That was like
Speaker 4: my first really big grown up loss, and then to
Speaker 4: have to go film it's like cool story, kids, Sorry,
Speaker 4: your friend's dead. Anyway, we got to break for lunch
Speaker 4: in thirty minutes, we got to get this shot. Let's roll,
Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess I don't. I don't know how
Speaker 4: other businesses are because we've only ever worked in this one.
Speaker 4: But it can feel really, you can feel really cut
Speaker 4: off from the real world and your real life because
Speaker 4: you have to do this imaginary thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also think there's a little bit of a disturb
Speaker 5: that happens because, like all that's ever on TV are
Speaker 5: these perfectly edited episodes, right, and all that's ever on
Speaker 5: TV for our industry, that's like quote unquote behind the
Speaker 5: scenes are award shows which are insane and not real.
Speaker 5: And so everything that people who don't work in our
Speaker 5: industry get to see is gorgeous, musical, lyrical and glamorous, furiated. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And like we work in the circus in the mud Man,
Speaker 5: it's so tricky and it's beautiful and it's strange and
Speaker 5: it's profane and it's hard. It's really hard. And if
Speaker 5: you ever express honesty about why it's hard, people go
Speaker 5: because like they've only ever seen the golden.
Speaker 1: Globes, right, And and I I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: want to I really want to be a little clear
Speaker 1: and like take pause.
Speaker 5: To be honest about how hard it is to have
Speaker 5: your world blow up and have someone look at you
Speaker 5: and mean it when they say, I'm really sorry, but we.
Speaker 6: Don't have time for this, right, right.
Speaker 5: And then you are expected to split into and wait
Speaker 5: for your real life so you can go do the
Speaker 5: on camera life. And it's what we do, and it's hard.
Speaker 4: It makes you a psycho. Like when you have to
Speaker 4: compartmentalize your life like that, it makes you a total nutcase,
Speaker 4: because then you can't stop doing that, like everything becomes
Speaker 4: over here and then over there.
Speaker 5: Well, you become a professional at disassociating.
Speaker 4: Oh is that what I'm doing on my phone? Just
Speaker 4: like scrolling doom scrolling disassociating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so when people say, well, for example from
Speaker 5: last week, why didn't you talk about this sooner? Because
Speaker 5: I'm a fucking professional at putting my feelings in a
Speaker 5: box over there so I can come to work and
Speaker 5: not bother other people.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 4: I'll deal with it in twenty years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when the box explodes in my face, then I'll
Speaker 5: have to deal with it. But what I will say,
Speaker 5: morbid humor aside, is.
Speaker 8: That was big.
Speaker 5: And I felt really lucky about the ways that you
Speaker 5: shared Scott with me and with us, and that you
Speaker 5: have continued to do that, and that you've helped make
Speaker 5: his memory advocacy that people get to participate in, and
Speaker 5: that affected the trajectory of our show. Like You've done
Speaker 5: a lot of really big things with how much you
Speaker 5: loved that friend. And I feel really lucky key to
Speaker 5: have been close to it and to you for all
Speaker 5: of that. And I also want to remind you that
Speaker 5: just like six months before you did it for me,
Speaker 5: because in season four, when my grandpa died and we
Speaker 5: were filming, you picked me up off the ground in
Speaker 5: the quad because somebody said to me, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 5: but we don't have time for this, and there aren't
Speaker 5: many people who know how that feels. And I I feel,
Speaker 5: really maybe this is like a weird thing to say.
Speaker 5: I feel really lucky that you did that for me
Speaker 5: once and I got to do it back. This is
Speaker 5: all iss all.
Speaker 4: It feels so met like, it feels really nice.
Speaker 5: You know, it's really weird, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I You know, you and I were separated a lot
Speaker 4: in the first few years, and then you know, our
Speaker 4: characters are fighting, and then as we are scripted together,
Speaker 4: we're having to deal with like grown up stuff and
Speaker 4: really like confusing subject matter. And when we were coming
Speaker 4: home in this season, you and I were also starting
Speaker 4: to like go home in real life and have to
Speaker 4: answer for who we'd become, you know, having to answer
Speaker 4: to the people, you know, having to go to Scott's funeral,
Speaker 4: you having to go home and see your friends or
Speaker 4: see your family at your grandfather's service, you know, and
Speaker 4: answer for what we had been living publicly. It isn't
Speaker 4: necessarily what my friends or family thought was appropriate for me.
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't even allowed to watch teen dramas
Speaker 4: growing up, and here I am neck deep in that shit.
Speaker 5: That's so interesting that idea of it being appropriate. What
Speaker 5: was hard for me was that people were like, isn't
Speaker 5: it fabulous? And I was like, it's really f fucked.
Speaker 2: Up and hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 5: And then I learned, Oh, nobody wants to hear a
Speaker 5: person who they look at as the on screen success
Speaker 5: story say they're struggling. Oh I better keep this to myself.
Speaker 4: Well, what I'll say is that I'm really glad Paul
Speaker 4: was directing, because to hear that message Joy, Joy's back.
Speaker 4: We've got joy back. She's in the car, right.
Speaker 2: I can try not to talk too much's annoying through
Speaker 2: the car microphone, but I'm here.
Speaker 4: No, it's okay. It just there's a little bit of lag.
Speaker 4: But you guys, we do have joy back. Joy. We
Speaker 4: were talking about how back?
Speaker 6: How wait?
Speaker 4: What? Oh wait?
Speaker 1: That's echo at a lagger and oh I'm gonna fix it.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna fix it. Can you hear me out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can hear you bet but then we share ourselves.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mute it, go ahead and talk.
Speaker 4: That's okay.
Speaker 5: We try sometimes with the car.
Speaker 2: The car always gets us joy.
Speaker 4: You just wave your hand when you want to talk.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: Now we were talking about, you know, my good friend
Speaker 4: Scott died in Iraq while we were filming this episode.
Speaker 4: And while it sucks that when you work in film
Speaker 4: there's no going home for the day, it's just like,
Speaker 4: all right, suck it up. We still have eight hours.
Speaker 4: You know, there's five hundred people here to make this
Speaker 4: day happen. I was really glad that Paul was directing
Speaker 4: because I had to shoot that scene with Lucas in
Speaker 4: Trick like the day after Scott died. And so Scott
Speaker 4: was the person that I did theater with growing up.
Speaker 4: He was absolutely my partner and all of that. And
Speaker 4: while he'd been in Iraq, we traded all of these
Speaker 4: messages about starting a production company when he got out,
Speaker 4: because he was planning to get out and we were
Speaker 4: going to do an adaptation of Dostoyevski's The Idiot, which
Speaker 4: is the play we did together in high school, and
Speaker 4: update it and like so many big plans like Peyton
Speaker 4: and Brooke with this record label. You know, we're going
Speaker 4: to start a business. And I could not get through
Speaker 4: that scene where Peyton says your art matters. It's what
Speaker 4: got me here, because it was like I was talking
Speaker 4: to my friend and it was killing me, and I'm
Speaker 4: just like and they're like, you're not supposed to cry
Speaker 4: in this scene, Hillary, and I'm like, right, right, right,
Speaker 4: right right. But for all the times that you guys
Speaker 4: wanted me to cry and I was really having trouble,
Speaker 4: it's the opposite this time. And all I want to
Speaker 4: do is sob and Paul was so good about being like,
Speaker 4: I want you to say these lines like it is
Speaker 4: the happiest thing that you can say to Lucas, and
Speaker 4: he really coached me to say it with a smile.
Speaker 4: And I think you can still feel Peyton wanting to
Speaker 4: cry and putting on this brave face. But I was
Speaker 4: absolutely talking to my friend in that scene, and I
Speaker 4: don't know anyone who could have gotten me through it
Speaker 4: other than Paul. He was so he was such a
Speaker 4: chepherd in that moment. Of course.
Speaker 2: So that was my favorite scene in the episode actually,
Speaker 2: because you were so dropped into your body, your voice
Speaker 2: sounded different, and I understand the context.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: There was just.
Speaker 2: Something so so grounded and real about that, And I
Speaker 2: hate that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 2: It's like those things, this weird thing about our art
Speaker 2: where pain sometimes equal you don't want it, and also
Speaker 2: it can make such a huge difference in the lives
Speaker 2: of the people who are experiencing that, And it's just
Speaker 2: one of.
Speaker 6: The weird things that we do as artists.
Speaker 2: Live in whatever state we're in and then go to
Speaker 2: work just somehow try and put it all together.
Speaker 6: And whatever happened that day really was magical. And I felt.
Speaker 2: Really moved by that scene. Yeah, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: I don't have like a conclusion, but it was a
Speaker 2: beautiful performance.
Speaker 4: M Thanks. It made me feel bad like Chad was
Speaker 4: the third wheel in the room, like, hey, we're sorting
Speaker 4: through some real heavy stuff. Chad, I just need you
Speaker 4: to stand there and look handsome if you could, that
Speaker 4: would be great. But he he also is great because
Speaker 4: I think he knew that I was moving through some
Speaker 4: dark territory and knew just to just to stand there
Speaker 4: and be steady and like good and that was that
Speaker 4: was the right move, you know, because I think then
Speaker 4: we had to do all the trick stuff that night too.
Speaker 4: When we would go into trick, we like lived in Trick. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was fun to see all the girls out party
Speaker 4: and Haley not being a mom for the night.
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved all of us being out
Speaker 5: and and weirdly that they wrote that bit about the
Speaker 5: girl who was wearing my clothes who wound up being
Speaker 5: the girl you'd been talking about at the label and
Speaker 5: we had this overlap we didn't know about, and then
Speaker 5: we got to bring Haley into it, and we all
Speaker 5: were like what it was. It was such a like
Speaker 5: a genuine silly thing that happens with friends when you're
Speaker 5: like did you read about that? You know, and everybody's
Speaker 5: seen it because like for whatever reason, it's the top
Speaker 5: of Twitter that day. Like it felt real and and light.
Speaker 4: And funny, gossipy, just like dish. You know, who do
Speaker 4: we think that actress was? We need to we need
Speaker 4: to like figure out who the actress was.
Speaker 5: Probably somebody who didn't deserve it.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. That's it. We labeled all the
Speaker 4: poor girls in the early aughts. Is like she's a
Speaker 4: drunk because she like goes out at night. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was probably soone perfectly lovely.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure she was fine.
Speaker 4: She's fine, top ten head on Tierra.
Speaker 2: Guys, what I'm sorry, Well, I was saying you were
Speaker 2: saying she's so perfectly lovely, which also made me think
Speaker 2: of Tory Tobato and I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: have talked about Nanny Carey yet, but.
Speaker 4: No, we want you to talk about Nanny Carey.
Speaker 5: Wait. Did you guys remember that she came in this early?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Oh, I couldn't believe it. Episode two.
Speaker 4: It's like I don't know where to look. We've got
Speaker 4: hot Mikayla and hot Tory. I don't know where to look,
Speaker 4: just surrounding us with beauty.
Speaker 5: They were great.
Speaker 6: I love working with Toy.
Speaker 2: She was genuinely so sweet, Like who you see in
Speaker 2: Trick that night, that's Toy. And for any of you,
Speaker 2: if we haven't gone back and listened to our episode
Speaker 2: with Tory from the live shows that we did, you
Speaker 2: should go back and listen to those because she's so
Speaker 2: great and has some funny stories. But she was just
Speaker 2: lovely and couldn't have been more. Again, we always say it,
Speaker 2: but it's hard to come into a show that's so
Speaker 2: well established and then try and make a mark, especially
Speaker 2: with a character that makes that big of a stamp
Speaker 2: on the show. And she was so lovely and sweet
Speaker 2: and kind and fun and just it was an absolute
Speaker 2: dream scenario. It couldn't have asked for anybody better. It's
Speaker 2: such a non competitive, like open person.
Speaker 6: It's great.
Speaker 4: She knows who she is. Did you know she was
Speaker 4: gonna end up being a bad guy? Like, did you
Speaker 4: know where it was going?
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 5: I don't think any of us did.
Speaker 4: I mean, when you hire a nanny that is that beautiful,
Speaker 4: you know it's gonna go sideways, right, It's gonna go bad.
Speaker 5: What I thought was interesting though, is that again they
Speaker 5: gave us a misdirect with it. Where Haley doesn't have
Speaker 5: a problem with it, the girls are going hello mouth
Speaker 5: because he's being judged on his looks by this rude
Speaker 5: woman at his office, is like, don't do that. Also,
Speaker 5: I'd love to see that girl in a bathing suit.
Speaker 5: And we're like, eh, so you're there, they're playing with us,
Speaker 5: will they or won't they? Will they or won't we?
Speaker 5: Innocent or bad? And because Tory is so lovely and
Speaker 5: her energy comes through her like it did in that
Speaker 5: scene at the bar. You think like, well, maybe it
Speaker 5: won't because that would be so stereotypical, right, like the
Speaker 5: dad having the affair with the hot nanny. We've seen
Speaker 5: it a million times. So in a weird way, they
Speaker 5: make you debate what you already know so that you
Speaker 5: don't see crazy nanny Carey coming.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. It's so weird knowing what's going to happen
Speaker 4: and seeing how just sweet and gentle she comes in.
Speaker 4: She's so likable. Man. It was really kind of hard
Speaker 4: to view Robbie Jones, who played Quentin as a high schooler,
Speaker 4: because he wasn't the same way we weren't. You know,
Speaker 4: he was our age and he's playing like in a
Speaker 4: lower bracket, you know, and we're like, but he's not
Speaker 4: a kid, he's our age, and so that kind of
Speaker 4: stuff does get kind of It's confusing because I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: he's a potential love interest. The boys got Mikayla and
Speaker 4: Tori to show up and had new friends to play with,
Speaker 4: and we had someone playing a high schooler and we're like,
Speaker 4: that's not there. Come on, man, it's a really small
Speaker 4: fishing hole here in Wilmington, and I just want to
Speaker 4: kiss somebody that's new. No, I can't.
Speaker 5: It's like you said it in season one, Hillary, like
Speaker 5: it was either college students or retired golf guys. Like
Speaker 5: we didn't have anybody to kiss but each other, So like,
Speaker 5: what do you want?
Speaker 4: What do you want from us?
Speaker 5: And it is weird when the optics, you know, when
Speaker 5: we're all twenty five and we're now playing twenty five
Speaker 5: year olds, and then they bring in a twenty five
Speaker 5: year old to play a seventeen year old. You're like,
Speaker 5: what I would have I don't know. I would have
Speaker 5: loved to have seen if Nanny Carey didn't go crazy.
Speaker 5: I think I think her in mouth could have been
Speaker 5: very sweet, like this lovely woman and the news cast her.
Speaker 5: I don't know. But then like obviously I think that's
Speaker 5: really just because Mellicent's not in Tree Hill yet. But
Speaker 5: I don't know. She could have had a she could
Speaker 5: have had a lovely thing. Maybe she would have married
Speaker 5: a teacher. Maybe we would have just been these lovely people.
Speaker 4: Her and skills could have been real spicy.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like what.
Speaker 4: If she fell for junk? You know, yes, yeah, she
Speaker 4: could have been like I just I like how down
Speaker 4: to earth he is. I like, what a child at
Speaker 4: heart junk is playing with work on. My favorite line
Speaker 4: of the episode was little Jamie saying I'm taking a stand,
Speaker 4: to be echoed later by Brooke. Like that as someone
Speaker 4: who felt like she was taking a stand and some stuff,
Speaker 4: and you know the six months that surrounded this episode,
Speaker 4: I'm seeing a child be like not doing it ahead,
Speaker 4: Yeah it was great. Well, Jeff was on a chair
Speaker 4: behind me. I was on the couch and he's like
Speaker 4: seated behind me. And when or when Skills says, yeah,
Speaker 4: my man's taking a stand, he laughed out loud hard
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, oh, we're invested. Okay, fantastic.
Speaker 4: He loves Skills. I love it. But that sense of
Speaker 4: not forcing your kid to do stuff they don't want
Speaker 4: to do, I'm that mom all day. I remember taking
Speaker 4: Gus to a rock wall. All the other kids were
Speaker 4: climbing the rocks and Gus got two of those little
Speaker 4: handholds up and was like, we're good, and you have
Speaker 4: to explain to them like, hey man, I'm so proud
Speaker 4: of you for not caving to peer pressure. Do it
Speaker 4: in your own time. You'll figure it out.
Speaker 5: That is such a.
Speaker 2: Hard thing to do as a parent, because you also know, look,
Speaker 2: my kid would never have learned to ride a bike
Speaker 2: if I didn't make her. She sat there and was
Speaker 2: like kicking the bike. She was so mad, she was
Speaker 2: so never seen her throw fit in my life except
Speaker 2: oh that bike. And it was like, I'm really not
Speaker 2: I really don't want to enter into a power struggle
Speaker 2: with her, but her future will be sincerely less exciting.
Speaker 2: If she doesn't know how to ride a bike. She
Speaker 2: can't go on vacation with friends. She can't just like
Speaker 2: run up the corner to see your friend, you know,
Speaker 2: want to, Like, you've got to know how to ride
Speaker 2: a bike.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I got gravel at my house. You
Speaker 4: can't really ride a bike here. I don't know if
Speaker 4: my son knows how to ride a bike. I didn't
Speaker 4: learn to ride a bike till I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 6: Did you really has been so much so hard to
Speaker 6: learn back then.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I mean, I think there's there's things like
Speaker 2: that for everything. I mean, it could it could be
Speaker 2: like a safety issue or something that you actually have
Speaker 2: to do, or you know, something that you're just like no,
Speaker 2: this is important, but we're getting right, Like, if you
Speaker 2: fall off the horse, the ideas you have to get
Speaker 2: back up. If you don't get back up, you will
Speaker 2: be paralyzed with fear for the rest of your life
Speaker 2: and you will never get back up on a horse.
Speaker 2: So as soon as you fall down, you have to
Speaker 2: get right back up on that horse. So I was
Speaker 2: watching that and thinking how great this is that Haley
Speaker 2: is giving Jamie that autonomy to make that decision for himself.
Speaker 2: But it did also make me think of all the time.
Speaker 2: So I was like, when it's hard to tell, like
Speaker 2: when is the moment when you're like, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 2: but you actually do have to do this.
Speaker 4: Because I had Gus before any of my friends had kids,
Speaker 4: I like I was on an island, like I didn't
Speaker 4: know who to ask about stuff like that. And I
Speaker 4: remember making the decision that I wasn't going to potty
Speaker 4: train him, and I was like, no, all these women
Speaker 4: are like being super competitive about like their kid potty
Speaker 4: training or like learning how to do stuff super fast.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna let him figure it out. And sure enough,
Speaker 4: he just woke up one day and was like, I'm
Speaker 4: potty trained now. And so that's totally been my method
Speaker 4: for everything. Like they just wake up one day and
Speaker 4: they're like, it's time. Today's the day, whether it's bike
Speaker 4: shit or or you know, go carts or whatever he
Speaker 4: wants to do. He's the personality like Jamie where it's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it today, and then you
Speaker 4: wait and a couple months later they're like, right now,
Speaker 4: this is the time. And then they feel so empowered
Speaker 4: because they're like, I knew this was the right time.
Speaker 4: You didn't know, mom, because you're a dumbass, but I knew.
Speaker 4: I knew. Wow, George, she just refuses to do it.
Speaker 4: She's just like, no, you'll do it for me. You'll
Speaker 4: do it for me. We'll push the cart for me.
Speaker 5: Isn't But isn't that also interesting to realize that you
Speaker 5: got to know a little bit about where people live? Yea,
Speaker 5: because there's no kid who's gonna bike around where's gus
Speaker 5: kinna go? It's not only taking a bike anywhere hundreds
Speaker 5: of acres of your farm, Like it's gonna take him
Speaker 5: an hour to bike to somebody's house and on gravel.
Speaker 5: Who's biking? But Joy, we grew up in neighborhoods where
Speaker 5: you would literally bike two blocks away to see your friends,
Speaker 5: and yeah, if you couldn't, you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 5: have a social life. And it's funny to get outside
Speaker 5: your own arena of experience and go what is that
Speaker 5: for you? And somebody who I think tells the story
Speaker 5: so well, Glenn and Doyle, who I still can't believe,
Speaker 5: I call a friend, what a weird things, one of
Speaker 5: my favorite authors, and she we just happened to be
Speaker 5: friends and I'll never get over it. And she's like,
Speaker 5: can you calm down about it? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: Today's not the day to use Hilary's point. Not today,
Speaker 5: maybe tomorrow. But she wrote, uh, there's a chapter in
Speaker 5: her book and untamed about taking her daughters and maybe
Speaker 5: some of their friends. I don't really remember what the
Speaker 5: group was to get their ears pierced. And one of
Speaker 5: the girls was really game, and one of them was like,
Speaker 5: nopem and somebody said just be brave and she said no, no,
Speaker 5: they're both being brave because one wants to do this
Speaker 5: and one does not, and they're both brave enough to
Speaker 5: listen to how they feel and know that they are
Speaker 5: making the right choices for themselves, and I was like, who,
Speaker 5: you should teach classes to everyone else because we could
Speaker 5: all use them. Like it was such an interesting way
Speaker 5: to put it in perspective and to really bring my
Speaker 5: tangential story back. What a funny, wild, cool thing that
Speaker 5: a four year old saying this is where my boundary
Speaker 5: is helped Brook Davis, an adult who runs a huge
Speaker 5: global company, say you know what, I'm setting a boundary today.
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved it so good.
Speaker 4: Ha. The reveal of Brooke and Jamie pulling off the
Speaker 4: brown paper from the door and seeing that it's Karen's cafe,
Speaker 4: that was like goosebumpy. That was so sweet, full, sob
Speaker 4: for me. God, how could Karen just leave the cafe?
Speaker 4: It just makes me think, like what happened?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is she? We don't even know adults.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think she's in Australia or something. Weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't she.
Speaker 4: They didn't want to pay anybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got stingy. Yeah, our bosses wanted to buy
Speaker 5: very expensive sports cars, so actors were not getting paid,
Speaker 5: which feels crazy when you have Moira Kelly. But here
Speaker 5: we are. We'll just talk about her until she comes back.
Speaker 4: What else did we miss? There's so much stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I love a love triangle, so I'm super into. I'm
Speaker 4: super into the Lucas Peyton Lindsay thing. I'm really into
Speaker 4: what feels like it's gonna be the Nathan Haley Nanny
Speaker 4: Carey thing. Oh god, it feels so dangerous. But I
Speaker 4: want to know who Brooke is gonna kiss like it
Speaker 4: feels Brooke Davis, you know, the pied Piper of boys,
Speaker 4: is not making eyes in anybody right now, and it
Speaker 4: feels very weird.
Speaker 5: She needs that.
Speaker 2: Brooke has been constantly all about the boys, and this
Speaker 2: is so good for her, and I love that she
Speaker 2: can also just set up a storyline for us that
Speaker 2: isn't all about boy drama, because everybody loves a little
Speaker 2: boy drama. But we also need to see women just
Speaker 2: like figuring out how to start a company, I mean,
Speaker 2: or keep it people out and do it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I just love that. I think that's so awesome.
Speaker 4: When she says on the phone, yes, there's a boy here,
Speaker 4: and we knew a little boy.
Speaker 5: It's my godson. You're just not letting me finish. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's really nice, some little I'm sorry. Maria's here, she's
Speaker 5: getting in the car. I'm taking bye, honey.
Speaker 6: She's like, bane it was locked.
Speaker 2: Okay, mom, we have to go. Okay, guys, Okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: I won't all right, I'm gonna let you finish up.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, bye.
Speaker 4: See. That's how we do for the kids.
Speaker 5: That's what we do. I do love that Brooks world
Speaker 5: is expanding as she comes home, that she knows what's important.
Speaker 5: It's sort of what we were talking about earlier when
Speaker 5: we were talking about loss, that a big work life
Speaker 5: that consumes all of your time without a life life
Speaker 5: is not enough. Yeah, and we were all really struggling
Speaker 5: with that at.
Speaker 4: This Oh my god, well because at this age too,
Speaker 4: like where I come from, everybody gets married at twenty one,
Speaker 4: twenty two, and I was catching a huge ration of
Speaker 4: shit from everyone, like you didn't come to my college graduation,
Speaker 4: and you didn't come to my bachelorette party, and you
Speaker 4: didn't come to this, and you didn't come to.
Speaker 5: This, tell me about it.
Speaker 4: My time didn't belong to me and it didn't belong
Speaker 4: to you, And so I felt awful and was just
Speaker 4: constantly apologizing for being a bad person because I hadn't
Speaker 4: gotten this job.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're always on the receiving end of shit.
Speaker 5: And then someone will say, well, you know you went
Speaker 5: to that event and it's like, well, yeah, because they
Speaker 5: scheduled around it because they want us to do press
Speaker 5: that looks fancy from the outside, but that's they look
Speaker 5: at that as strategic. That's still then a commercial to go,
Speaker 5: yea commercial advertising guys, Come on, you know the the
Speaker 5: reality that you just you just don't get to go
Speaker 5: to things, you just don't and yes you love it,
Speaker 5: but it's hard and the struggle that it's both is
Speaker 5: something that I was really I just felt so connected
Speaker 5: to in this moment, and I think I loved the
Speaker 5: storyline so much because Brooke got to change it. I
Speaker 5: didn't get to go home, but she did. She got
Speaker 5: to form a relationship with her godson, and she got
Speaker 5: to be back with her best friend, and you and
Speaker 5: I had those moments that were so beautiful together and
Speaker 5: I was like, this is everything I want. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: I really really loved it.
Speaker 4: It felt good, It felt really real, and I know
Speaker 4: that we're eventually going to end up like in Brooks
Speaker 4: apartment somewhere all I can think is are they staying
Speaker 4: in a hotel in their own hometown right now? Because
Speaker 4: there is nothing that feels worse as someone that has
Speaker 4: to do that when I go home to Virginia, like
Speaker 4: staying in a hotel, really at the Riverview Suites or
Speaker 4: Brook and Peyton are at the Wilmingtonian.
Speaker 5: They're at the Wilmingtonian in the Marilyn Monroe room with
Speaker 5: the famed room. Does Peyton go home? I don't remember.
Speaker 5: Do you still have the house? The Sawyer House?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, they haven't shown where we are because I
Speaker 4: thought about that after last week's episode. I'm like, Peyton
Speaker 4: goes to pick Brook up at the airport, but then
Speaker 4: where does she take her?
Speaker 5: Where do we go? I'm very curious. I think this
Speaker 5: is probably why they make brook by a house so fast.
Speaker 4: Let's just settle down, girls, we're just gonna We're just
Speaker 4: gonna buy a house. What did we miss? Because I
Speaker 4: love getting messages from people that are like, I can't
Speaker 4: believe they talked for an hour. They didn't bring up this,
Speaker 4: So why don't I get yelled at anymore?
Speaker 5: I don't want to get yelled at either. I watched
Speaker 5: I'm gonna confess something. I watched this episode on my
Speaker 5: lunch break at play rehearsal in London. Yeah, and I
Speaker 5: only made it forty two minutes or in or whatever
Speaker 5: I had. I think, hold on, I've still got it
Speaker 5: pulled up. I can tell you exactly where I had
Speaker 5: this stung.
Speaker 4: Oh, you have to see the end. The end is magic.
Speaker 5: No, because I remember, oh wait, oh, yeah, I have
Speaker 5: I have seven minutes and forty.
Speaker 6: Eight seconds left.
Speaker 5: God, so I knew once I realized what this episode was,
Speaker 5: I knew what was coming. I knew that I'm taking
Speaker 5: a stand was coming. I felt it in my bones.
Speaker 5: But guys, there's eight minutes. I have no idea. Holy
Speaker 5: tell me, what did I miss?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? I mean the reveal of Karen's cafe
Speaker 4: is so good, like that was a winner. Nathan rolls
Speaker 4: that wheelchair into the pool.
Speaker 5: Right, oh, in the pool that I remember too. It
Speaker 5: was weird to't be watching and go, oh, I remember
Speaker 5: how this? Oh, I remember how this? And then I thought,
Speaker 5: I know the cafe happens. I know Nathan in the
Speaker 5: pool happens.
Speaker 4: But then he gets out of the pool and he's
Speaker 4: perfectly dry, and he goes to Jamie's room.
Speaker 2: No, he's not dry, girl, he's dry.
Speaker 4: He takes Jamie out to the racetrack and they race
Speaker 4: each other in the wheelchair in.
Speaker 5: The wrong car. Oh that's right. Oh god, So they
Speaker 5: do their own soapbox rally.
Speaker 4: Haley doesn't witness that, you know, And I guess I
Speaker 4: don't know. I just feel really sympathetic for Nathan because
Speaker 4: I've gone through dark patches that have certainly lasted longer
Speaker 4: than four months. And I'm like, see, he's connecting with
Speaker 4: his kid. They probably have these little like quiet moments
Speaker 4: that Haley doesn't witness, and he doesn't have to like
Speaker 4: be performative about it, like, hey, buddy, great, come talk
Speaker 4: to me. Oh that's so they were very cute.
Speaker 5: Sweet, I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's interesting because I, you know, in all, in all
Speaker 5: the journeys we've done, I identify with his experience and
Speaker 5: deep sadness and rage and all of that. And I
Speaker 5: know how long I waited to throw. I wish I'd
Speaker 5: done it sooner. Yeah, So I also really I also
Speaker 5: really want to cheer.
Speaker 4: Right now, we know the four months, what is the
Speaker 4: appropriate amount of time We're going to figure out what
Speaker 4: that is it's like, listen, I don't know, four months
Speaker 4: too soon, six months now you're dead to me.
Speaker 5: It also depends on it depends on what the issue
Speaker 5: is that's making you want to throw things.
Speaker 4: I think I mean Peyton leaving Nathan in the children's
Speaker 4: cancer ward of the hospital was so extreme and weird.
Speaker 5: That was unacceptable.
Speaker 4: Hi, I haven't seen you in four years. Just gonna
Speaker 4: drop you off with all these immune compromised children real quick.
Speaker 5: What bothers me about those sorts of liberties is that
Speaker 5: it's just implausible you would not be on the pediatric
Speaker 5: oncology floor taking someone to physical therapy. You know what
Speaker 5: I would have loved if you guys were having that
Speaker 5: conversation walking into the hospital and getting on an elevator.
Speaker 5: You turned him around and you and you smacked on
Speaker 5: college like you know, pediatrics or whatever in the elevator
Speaker 5: and shoved him out and said, look at how ungrateful
Speaker 5: you are. I'm out, And you left him there and
Speaker 5: he had to wheel back and go to physical therapy,
Speaker 5: like do something more interesting. Then they're just happening to
Speaker 5: walk through here and there's not a single nurse saying
Speaker 5: you are not allowed on this floor. You could be
Speaker 5: bringing in a passage in I could kill a kid.
Speaker 4: We didn't think things through. Come on, that hospital set
Speaker 4: was ours. We were going to use it however we
Speaker 4: want well.
Speaker 5: And it was only one floor. There was an elevator,
Speaker 5: but it went to nowhere.
Speaker 4: Hey, okay. Other favorite scene of the show though, is
Speaker 4: you me and Lucas on the river court like I
Speaker 4: love we went back to that space together.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: It's like a magnet.
Speaker 5: And that was part of the place where when we
Speaker 5: were talking about our lives and you said, well you
Speaker 5: have this, I wrote it down. You said, uh, now
Speaker 5: I want to tell you what I wrote down and
Speaker 5: I can't see.
Speaker 6: It there it is.
Speaker 5: You said, you have a very busy, very great life
Speaker 5: in Brooko's Nope.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm that's what.
Speaker 5: It looks like. Nope, this is what I care about.
Speaker 5: We get into this thing about your dreams and investing
Speaker 5: in them and like we're going to do it together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just I loved how honest but like alive and
Speaker 5: joyous and oh messy it was. And then this boy
Speaker 5: shows up and it's like, hey, go talk to her
Speaker 5: about this. Oh it just felt so fun.
Speaker 4: Brook is such a good wing Man.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, but that sense of like I did the work thing.
Speaker 4: You and I do this in real life. You're doing
Speaker 4: it in Tulsa, you know, and you've done it in
Speaker 4: other small towns where you have kind of built chapters
Speaker 4: of your life. I'm doing it here in Rhinebeck. It's
Speaker 4: like we go out and we work.
Speaker 6: Work, work, work, work, work, work, work work.
Speaker 4: I feel like the last five years I've just been
Speaker 4: like working constantly, and then you hit this point where
Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna do a home chapter and
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be home for a while. And now
Speaker 4: I'm doing PTA and it takes precedent over literally everything else,
Speaker 4: Like I'm scheduling everything around PTA.
Speaker 5: PTA.
Speaker 4: It's the thing that restores us. Like we're cancers, we're homebodies,
Speaker 4: we're nest I like the Brook is able to embody that,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't look like failure. It looks like a
Speaker 4: different color success.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Well, and everybody's always got opinions about what you're doing. Hey,
Speaker 5: not everybody knows what you're doing.
Speaker 4: And b.
Speaker 5: We all we all need that. You know. I had
Speaker 5: all these people this year being like, well, what do
Speaker 5: you mean You're not going to go do a pilot.
Speaker 5: What's your next show? And I was like, no, I
Speaker 5: need a minute. I need a minute. I want to
Speaker 5: be I want to be home for the holidays. I
Speaker 5: want to I want to look around and just figure
Speaker 5: out what I want to do in this moment. And
Speaker 5: I was like, I want to go do a play.
Speaker 5: That's what I want to do. TV's there. I want
Speaker 5: to go do this other thing. And it feels exciting.
Speaker 5: And I think it can remind you of what you
Speaker 5: love and why when you give yourself a moment to breathe, reset,
Speaker 5: and then decide what excites you. And I love that
Speaker 5: these two friends are coming home to breathe and.
Speaker 8: Figuring out what excites them.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have a question from Haley not spelled like
Speaker 4: our Haley. This is a l E. I G. H Haley,
Speaker 4: if you had any scenes with Jamie, how would you
Speaker 4: go about rehearsing your lines with him? Would he have
Speaker 4: an acting coach on set to help him through every
Speaker 4: scene or did he rehearse ahead of time? I mean
Speaker 4: you worked with them more than I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we worked together a lot. You know,
Speaker 5: time with kids is limited, but yeah, he I think
Speaker 5: his mom really really worked with him a lot. You know,
Speaker 5: his mom and siblings uprooted moved to Wilmington so that
Speaker 5: he could do this job and his his I can't
Speaker 5: remember it. I feel like he had two siblings.
Speaker 4: Got it to me he had an older sister and
Speaker 4: a younger brother. Because I took the older sister with
Speaker 4: mike Lewonne's daughter to go see Mama Mia, I had
Speaker 4: a two nine year olds with me and jaming.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I was thinking for some reason that
Speaker 5: they were both older. But that's probably why I'm thinking
Speaker 5: of I'm thinking there was a running around set together. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but you know, his mom would really help him memorize things,
Speaker 5: and because he was not working every day like we were,
Speaker 5: he he had less to remember. And then we would work,
Speaker 5: so we would rehearse, and then we would kind.
Speaker 8: Of gamify it.
Speaker 5: You know. I could be like, well, when you say
Speaker 5: this to me, what do you think you're really saying?
Speaker 5: And he, you know, he could ask me what do
Speaker 5: you mean, and it's like, well, you know, somebody's have
Speaker 5: a really good day and you say to them, how
Speaker 5: are you and they say I'm good. Or if someone's
Speaker 5: having a bad day and you say to them how
Speaker 5: are you and they say, I'm good. Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: the difference, right, like what's really underneath it? And so
Speaker 5: we would play these games together that were really they
Speaker 5: were really fun and blocking with kids, you know, figuring
Speaker 5: out the action that happens through the scene, when you
Speaker 5: pick him up, when you high five, when you run
Speaker 5: around that really I think can ground them too. So
Speaker 5: he definitely had to do work at home and then
Speaker 5: we would just work together. And then I mean the
Speaker 5: lassitter said it last week. Sometimes she'd be hiding next
Speaker 5: to the kitchen cabinets going this is this is your line.
Speaker 5: We just made sure we always made sure he had
Speaker 5: the support he needed because he was only four.
Speaker 4: Gus just got offered a movie and I'm I'm like no,
Speaker 4: I like, we haven't even read the script. But I'm
Speaker 4: like also horrified because he wants to do it. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, am I going to be
Speaker 4: a stage mom? Like is that what's gonna happen? Yep,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't. Like George is the age
Speaker 4: that Jackson was, and there's she's so feral, there's no
Speaker 4: way she would stand on a mark, Like she won't
Speaker 4: let people brush her hair. She's like, you know, I
Speaker 4: can't imagine my baby baby working. But Gus's got a
Speaker 4: mustache now, so he thinks he's a grown man and
Speaker 4: it's like, mother, I must man. Yeah, it's so stressful. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm glad Jackson had you to mother hen him on set.
Speaker 4: Just take him under your wing. What's our most likely
Speaker 4: to what.
Speaker 5: Do we got? Let's spin a wheel. Be curious too
Speaker 5: to ban it'spanon. I'd be so curious to hear Joy
Speaker 5: and James answer that question as well, obviously as the
Speaker 5: people who played his parents, like how yeah, how that was? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Could he read at that point? Or did someone have
Speaker 4: to read the line to him? Ooh? Who is most
Speaker 4: likely to.
Speaker 5: Become a detective?
Speaker 4: You don't du duh? Yeah, I mean it's kind of I.
Speaker 5: Mean, you literally do a documentary series about solving crimes.
Speaker 5: But also if something's going on, you're always the person
Speaker 5: to go, Guess what I found out, Guess what I
Speaker 5: dug up, Guess where blah blah blah went, Like you
Speaker 5: always know it's you A thousand go I'm nosy, Oh,
Speaker 5: don't deflect, You're you're good at it.
Speaker 4: No. I loved like on set learning things from the
Speaker 4: crew and being able to like trickle information down and
Speaker 4: be like, you know, you don't know about that. Oh
Speaker 4: my god. We're going through case files right now for
Speaker 4: the next season of our show, and it's just fuckery everywhere.
Speaker 4: And you know you want to when you're dealing with
Speaker 4: morbid subject matter, it messes with you, but you want
Speaker 4: to show up and do a good job for these
Speaker 4: people because no one else is. So I totally understand
Speaker 4: the private investigator mindset of like, all right, well, no
Speaker 4: one else is doing the job, I'll do it. You know,
Speaker 4: let's just roll up our sleeves. Who on our show
Speaker 4: would be a PI always kind of like Fergie. He's
Speaker 4: always around, but just.
Speaker 5: But he's mysterious. Nobody knows what he does. Maybe he's
Speaker 5: in the CIA, Yeah, come into that.
Speaker 4: Who else like doesn't have a job but is always around.
Speaker 4: I like those people you just never really know. What
Speaker 4: do you do? How do you afford your mortgage? How
Speaker 4: do you pay for gas?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: How'd you buy that apartment?
Speaker 4: Like his skills is his only job? The basketball coach?
Speaker 4: Does he not have like another hustle?
Speaker 5: It seems that way.
Speaker 4: I just remember when we were kids, those like one
Speaker 4: eight hundred commercials where you could do mail order degrees
Speaker 4: and it was like at home nursing, private investigator. And
Speaker 4: I remember thinking like, why would I go to college?
Speaker 4: I could just stay home and be a private investigation.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I could stay home and play the Inspector Gadget theme
Speaker 5: song to myself all day, dunderd Dirt, Dirt, Dirt, dar.
Speaker 4: Like, come on, I'm here for it. Sign me up, folks.
Speaker 4: We got an honorable mention.
Speaker 5: God, I feel like this whole episode is an honorable mention.
Speaker 5: Isn't that silly?
Speaker 4: I just love Nathan coming up out of the water
Speaker 4: because it was slow motion. It really was like free Willy,
Speaker 4: Like it was like a different movie, and it because
Speaker 4: there was so much heavy for me personally, and also
Speaker 4: in the episode. I just loved that moment of like, da,
Speaker 4: it was fun.
Speaker 5: I love feeling like our heroes are back. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: you know, I know the journey's not over for him,
Speaker 5: but what he's saying is he's gonna fight for it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that like that's that's it, that's everything.
Speaker 4: And that we got to see him make that decision
Speaker 4: by himself, not with Haley, not with his son, not
Speaker 4: with anybody else like to see him do it by himself.
Speaker 4: Now we get the added reward of him eventually revealing
Speaker 4: it to people. So I'm excited about our future episodes.
Speaker 4: What do we got next week? Baby?
Speaker 5: Next week, Season five, episode three, My way home is
Speaker 5: through you. Well, that's sweet.
Speaker 4: I love you. We'll have so much fun in London.
Speaker 5: Love it, Thank you, my angel, Love you all. See
Speaker 5: you next week.
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