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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl drama, girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and

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Speaker 3: our comic girl sharing for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama, Queens, girl girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you

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Speaker 2: could sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama,

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Speaker 2: Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens. You guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, the mysteries are being you know, figured out.

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Speaker 4: Untangled is the right word. That's what I said. I

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Speaker 4: fell asleep right after I watched the episode. It was

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Speaker 4: so emotionally intense. I had to take a nap, and

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Speaker 4: now I'm like up ready to chat.

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Speaker 2: I loved this episode. Though loved I've really loved it.

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Speaker 2: We got so much. They packed a lot into this episode,

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Speaker 2: and it was pretty seamless. I have to say, yes, right.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't rushed like sometimes when they give you one

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Speaker 5: sentence and you go arah. They just had to. It

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Speaker 5: felt like everyone had time, yeah to do things and

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Speaker 5: breathe and say things, and yet so much happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to actually do a rundown on the

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Speaker 2: list of what happened. Here we go. But we have

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Speaker 2: our synopsis.

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Speaker 5: Let's see if the synopsis is accurate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Skills signs Jamie up for the

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Speaker 2: soapbox Derby Race so fun. Haley has her first day

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Speaker 2: hires a nanny to get some much needed help at

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Speaker 2: home as Nathan's still struggling. Brooke tries to convince Peyton

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Speaker 2: wants to open a close over bro store in tree Hill.

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Speaker 2: And it was directed by Paul Johansson. This is sort

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Speaker 2: of some of the stuff that happened, but I actually

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Speaker 2: have I have a list of how much we packed

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Speaker 2: into this episode. It's quick. I'm just going to read it. Lindsey, Quinton,

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Speaker 2: Lucas and Skills are basketball coaches, Brooke and Jamie Mouth

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Speaker 2: in the real world. Intro Nanny Carey, Peyton and the label,

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Speaker 2: Peyton and Lucas, drama, Nathan coping, Haley teaching, and then

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Speaker 2: the three girls seen by the pool with all of

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Speaker 2: of storyline and all of those actual storylines.

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Speaker 4: And I love that everyone's doing miserably, like no one

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Speaker 4: is lurishing, but we all look good, Like everyone looks

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Speaker 4: really good and we are just failing upwards. Fan fantastic.

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Speaker 4: This was the first episode my husband has ever seen

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Speaker 4: anything of by the way, oh my gosh. Normally, you

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Speaker 4: guys we watched the episodes together, and because of scheduling,

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Speaker 4: we couldn't, so we all watched it separately today. And

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting on my couch watching the episode, and halfway through,

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey comes through and just sees all of us in

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Speaker 4: trick and is like, I would like to know more

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Speaker 4: about what's going on here, and just sits down and

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Speaker 4: watches the last half of the episode and like was

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Speaker 4: it was like, oh, it was sweet to have someone

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Speaker 4: who's never seen anything stand up at the end of

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Speaker 4: the episode and be like, I get it. That makes

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Speaker 4: sense right on.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Dad loves us.

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Speaker 4: Dad loves us, and he acknowledged that we look like babies.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you guys, who were you like twelve?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Really, okay, guys, Well, Dad loves Season five, Episode two,

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Speaker 5: Racing like a Pro originally aired January eighth, two thousand

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Speaker 5: and eight, And what an episode like, Paul did such

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Speaker 5: a good job directing this episode.

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Speaker 4: It all.

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Speaker 5: I know we're going to talk about it for the

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Speaker 5: next hour, but it really did all feel so real,

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Speaker 5: so rooted, and I love that with our time jump.

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Speaker 5: You said it, Hillary, everyone is having a hard time

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Speaker 5: and it's being named. When Lucas meets you at trick,

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Speaker 5: he tells you everything that's going wrong for everyone else. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he reminds you that you're not alone. It reminds the

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Speaker 5: audience that if you're having a hard time in these

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Speaker 5: major times of transition, you're not alone. And Paul as

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Speaker 5: our director, managed to give such a packed episode that

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Speaker 5: finally starts to give us answers on where everyone's been

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Speaker 5: in these invisible four years.

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Speaker 2: And with great performances. He is so good at drawing

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Speaker 5: And every single scene had room to breathe, you got

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Speaker 5: I just I think he hit such a home run.

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Speaker 2: With this one.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys notice the lighting was different too, Like

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Speaker 4: it's lit so much moodier, and like, especially the intimate

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Speaker 4: scenes between just two people, it had that Peter Kowalski

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did, No, I miss Pete.

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Speaker 5: I love that he brought it down. Pete's sort of

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Speaker 5: and then he'd put these sort of glowballs, these beautiful

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Speaker 2: Sparkly, Yeah, little magical, dreamy. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And these people coming home to each other is supposed

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Speaker 2: I remember the scene out by the pool when you

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Speaker 2: don't I feel like I didn't even see you when

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Speaker 2: we shot the first episode back.

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Speaker 4: No, we don't see each other.

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Speaker 2: We didn't. We weren't scenes together. That was the first time, remember,

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Speaker 2: But I even even on on set, I feel like

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Speaker 2: that was the first time I remember seeing you after

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Speaker 2: it's the first thing I remember filming anyway from season

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Speaker 2: four is that moment, Sophia, when you and I realized

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they were trying to get mine out because

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Speaker 5: I'd played this like, oh that's why you're so red,

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Speaker 5: And yeah, the oh my god, it's not working.

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Speaker 2: It's very renee Russo it's good. Good look on you.

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Speaker 2: Oh I loved it.

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Speaker 5: God, I love her. Good God. The Thomas Crown affair

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, I physically remember that day as well, like

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's so in there. And what I forgot that

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Speaker 5: my god, Brooke has not seen her godson since he

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Speaker 5: The little cues the writing gave us on how much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: It's such a small moment, but it communicates so much.

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Speaker 2: That's those kinds of things create those moments. And I

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Speaker 4: I remember thinking that was crazy when we shot it,

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Speaker 5: And especially when you are at this sort of you know,

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Speaker 5: our show. You move Away, you're gone for ten months,

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Speaker 2: Social media has made it worse because you know, we

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Speaker 5: We feel like we know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I love how this episode opens because brook

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Speaker 4: It's so hard to hate Mikayla, But what I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say is that watching the episode like being Peyton Sawyer

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Speaker 4: deep down inside. You guys, I still feel jealous that

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Speaker 4: she's so pretty and she's really cool, and like she

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's so great.

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Speaker 5: Because she is undeniable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she's a real deal for sure. But you

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Speaker 5: It was so fun.

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Speaker 4: I like that everyone is just kind of meeting her organically,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and I remember that day with Mikaylax that

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Speaker 5: she was up to, and she had all these questions

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Speaker 5: and it was so much fun. And I remember thinking like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: She's so solid, so well spoken, intelligent and asks really

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Speaker 2: good questions and insightful, totally totally born to be an artist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt very condescending, but not intentionally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was really fun.

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Speaker 4: Are they setting you and Quintin up for something inappropriate?

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Speaker 2: No, but god, we had good chemistry and we Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Well that those kids have no idea that you tamed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's done, especially after that deal with him in

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Speaker 5: And I like that you didn't have to make the

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think when we were the mad kids in

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out what Quentin's damage is

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00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: because he is so handsome and so TALENTEDO. It makes

440
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: it really easy to hate him because he's got so

441
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: much going for him and he's still being like, you know, confrontational.

442
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: But you're rooting for him because you know there's so

443
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: much room to change, there's so much room for growth,

444
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: and he's just posturing. He's just a high school kid

445
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: who's posturing.

446
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: Oh that laugh he does when he's leaving the gym. Yeah,

447
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 4: when he's like leaving your classroom and he's just laughing.

448
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 4: It's just it's like you can feel his hurt. Yeah,

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: Like you can feel that he's a kid totally masking.

450
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: That's one of the things too, that I think I

451
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: loved about the way this was put together and the

452
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: way Paul directed my performance in that that he was

453
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: it's not a power struggle. You're not trying to dominate

454
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: the room. You're just you're fed up in every area

455
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: of your life, and you're just coming in and being honest.

456
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: And there's no sense in not just being honest. So

457
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: just tell these kids exactly how you feel. And you

458
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: don't have to be mean to be honest. You can

459
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: just be honest. And so I remember doing that and

460
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: it changed everything for me because instead of me trying

461
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: to be tough and dominate, I just was able to,

462
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: like I felt a lot more compassion, and that I

463
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: think made me connect more with Quenton and hopefully like

464
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: started to draw them together a little bit more, Hele

465
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: and Quentin, because when you stop trying to dominate and

466
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: you're just real, just totally authentic, like you said, Sophia,

467
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: and in the moment and there, it's so much easier

468
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: to I guess read other people have compassion or just

469
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: see things from their perspective.

470
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: When he has no idea what you're dealing with at home.

471
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: And this is something that I really struggled with in

472
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: the episode because when we shot this, like when we

473
00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 4: were kids, four months of Nathan being dark seemed like,

474
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's crazy. And as a grown up

475
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: lady watching this, I'm like, he's only been down for

476
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: four months, Like why is Haley flipping the fuck out?

477
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: Like it made Haley seem crazy that she was so

478
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 4: angry with him four months out, when meanwhile, the audience

479
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: is getting to see him in private, try to stand up,

480
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: and so it's just like, oh god, this is going

481
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: so bad.

482
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: Like just missing each other.

483
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need a therapist so bad.

484
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, four months can feel like a really

485
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: long time when you're juggling everything and doing everything.

486
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 5: And four months with a four year.

487
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Old, that's what I mean. Yeah, it's just so Now.

488
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: When you think about four months being thirty percent of

489
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 5: a year, and this kid's probably had memory for two years.

490
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: They remember everything.

491
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 7: Two years, Like, it's amazing.

492
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: It's three years, let's call it. But it's amazing because

493
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 5: you get everyone's perspective. Yeah, that's when it works, is

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: when everybody is understandable and everybody is frustrating. Yeah, and

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 5: you just go, ah, I just want better for these

496
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: people because I love them, Nathan.

497
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: I love that you just brought him up because he

498
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: this this is a real mental health struggle for him,

499
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: and I love that they really did a deep dive

500
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: on it in this episode and in this season. That's

501
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: got to be so incredibly tough to have made a

502
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: huge success out of your life that young and be

503
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: have so much ahead of you and then get get

504
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: disabled in some way.

505
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's it felt like character assassination to me. Joy,

506
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: it felt like they were making you this like shrill bitch,

507
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: because we've already seen Nathan and try to kill himself

508
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: multiple times. We know that he has a history of

509
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: self loathing and suicidal behavior and never had to deal

510
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: with anything quite this traumatic. You know, he crashed the

511
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: car into the wall and was playing basketball like three

512
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: weeks later this he's in a wheelchair, and it's so

513
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: so serious, and so to have Haley, who has historically

514
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: been really supportive and like, you know what, I'm gonna

515
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 4: take a different approach. I'm going to try something different.

516
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: To just have her throwing, you know, throwing the beer

517
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: bottles and smashing plates and stuff. I was like, why

518
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: are they making her.

519
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: So Yeah, shrill is a good word.

520
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, just to feel aligned with the person that we've

521
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: always known.

522
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 5: I liked it, you did. I liked oh. I liked

523
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: every bit of it. And here's what I'm gonna say,

524
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 5: I I hear you on all of Nathan's mental health stuff,

525
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: and You're not wrong. We've spent four years worth of

526
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 5: this TV show talking about it, and I do think

527
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 5: there is a tendency to align your idea of someone

528
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: with the way they're described. And Nathan Scott is our

529
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: hero and our sweetheart. He is a bad boy done

530
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 5: good because of this woman he like, he is such

531
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: a champion, and yes, he's had these horrible things, and

532
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 5: we as adults in the last year have gone, oh

533
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 5: my god, this is a boy with like serious mental

534
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: health fatures. But they've never been willing to really address

535
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: it on camera until this and throughout all of it.

536
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: Haley's been with him throughout all of it. She's reminded him, yes,

537
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: if this were the real world, he would have gone

538
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: to therapy. And if this were the real world, four

539
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: months into a catastrophic accident, as adults, I think we

540
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: would be different. But it's TV drama and I love

541
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: that from the way she behaves, you can see that

542
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: whenever she's mad, she takes a deep breath and keeps going.

543
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: And whenever he fucks up with their son, she takes

544
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: a deep breath and just says, sweetie, daddy doesn't feel good.

545
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, and we jump in. All your friends

546
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: are coming, We're coming. It's gonna be amazing. It's been

547
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: a lot of jumping in to cover for him and

548
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: I like that when no one is just telling the truth,

549
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: eventually everybody loses it.

550
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

551
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: I like it for her because she's always been good,

552
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: and I like it because she's always cleaned up everybody's messes.

553
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: And when you yelled and then walked in the kitchen

554
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 5: and the argument was over and then you threw all

555
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: the bottles, I was like, God, I'm not waiting for

556
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: this from her. I loved it.

557
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: I was thinking as I was like, I was like,

558
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: who bought the bear? There was no uberat who bought

559
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: the goddamn bear?

560
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: Because yes, I didn't even think about that part.

561
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Maybe even Haley was doing it. That beer bottle thing

562
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: was totally improvised. Paul said, what do you I just

563
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: was so uncomfortable. I was like, he said, what do

564
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: you want to do? I was like, I mean, I

565
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: want to throw these beer bottles across the room, but

566
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: obviously I can't. He's like, why not because they're props.

567
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: He goes, WHOA, we'll get in one take, do it.

568
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: And we didn't tell James, so his reaction on the

569
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: couch was real. He had no idea what was going

570
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: on behind him.

571
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: That was amazing.

572
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: But you know what you said just made me think

573
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: the one thing that flipped the switch. I think Hillary,

574
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: because I totally I do hear what you're saying. Nathan

575
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: historically has even through all of his struggles. I correct

576
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he's ever

577
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: been someone who was a complainer or like was felt

578
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: really sorry for himself. He never really did the pity

579
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: party thing.

580
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?

581
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: I guess to me, it was like four months. Haley

582
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: was on tour for four months. You know, like a

583
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: four month periodod of time doesn't feel so fatalistic, I guess.

584
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: But when you're with living, living with somebody who just

585
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: is refusing to like they just keep feeling sorry for

586
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: themselves over and for so long, and there's like you

587
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: have a grace period. We're like, oh my gosh, you've

588
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: just been in a horrible accent. Of course, anybody would

589
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: feel sorry for themselves. Yes, yes, And then it's like, okay,

590
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: we are we kind of coming out of that. And

591
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: then the next phase is like okay, but like life

592
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: has to go on. I actually have to do you care?

593
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Can you at least empathize? Could you like be emotional

594
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: and like talk with me about it at least we can.

595
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: So it feels like maybe they just sped that progression

596
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: up because that's the flip that got switched.

597
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: I also think the four months, Yeah, not the best

598
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 5: writing we've ever had, Yeah, in an episode that is

599
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: filled with very good writing. But what I think is

600
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: important to remember, and I wish they would have repeated

601
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: it with you, Joy and not just with you and

602
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: your scene as Peyton taking Nathan to the hospital Hill.

603
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: I wish they would have repeated the thing from episode one,

604
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: which is, but your doctors said you can walk. Remember

605
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: that fight you guys have.

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, that's what we're missing because the whole reason

607
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 7: she's so upset it's not my husband's never gonna walk again,

608
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 7: and I understand that maybe forever he'll be sad.

609
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: It's they're telling you you can and you're refusing because

610
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: you can't. You think you can't play basketball. Yeah, So

611
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: because you can't play basketball, you don't want to play

612
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: with our son.

613
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 6: You don't want to crawl around on the floor with

614
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 6: your kid.

615
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: That gives it everything, And that's a miss. That's a

616
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: miss in the episode because if we had been reminded

617
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: that he was choosing this in some.

618
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: Way, y'all, I'm just thinking about postpartum depression. I'm like,

619
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: four months. Yeah, that's true.

620
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: No, they could have made it a year or two.

621
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: They could have made it like it had been in

622
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: a while for sure. Yeah, I think you're right. Happy meeting.

623
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: I loved seeing him secretly try, like because a number

624
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: of times he's like by himself trying to stand up,

625
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: and then that last time where you think he's finally

626
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: just gonna commit suicide and he jumps up out of

627
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: the water like free Willie. Yes, Jeff was like, what

628
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: kind of show is this?

629
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 5: It's the best baby. It reminded me of the season

630
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 5: four shot when you know the episode where we all

631
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: took our class pictures with the partners. Oh yeah, and

632
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: I did the not enough, not enough, not enough and

633
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: Nathan was in front of the wings holding the basketballs.

634
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: It gave me that same like it mirrored that in

635
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: some way totally, And it's like, Nathan Scott is back.

636
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: He's always going to be a hero. That's who he is.

637
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: Deep down. He's got that really cool. I'm gonna jump

638
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: in the car and go take Maria to tennis, but

639
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and jump back into the zoom from

640
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: my car, so at least I can pop in my

641
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: every once in a while. But I'll be back in

642
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: a minute.

643
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: By the way, I love I love this. She's doing tennis.

644
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 5: I have to say something speaking of scenes by that pool,

645
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: because we talked about this last week or maybe it

646
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 5: was the week before, but I went, oh, that you

647
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: and I got assigned the well well right as shared dialogue.

648
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 5: And then what was the next thing? I said, Oh, Nathan,

649
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: you look so harrow in chic.

650
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: He say it, Oh, there are only so many lines

651
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 4: that our boss had in his repertoire. And like, if

652
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: he knew you were mad at him or didn't want

653
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: to engage, he would make you say these things to

654
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: kind of like remind you of him. And yeah, I

655
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: felt his dirty, little, grubby, no fingernail hands all over

656
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: this one.

657
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: It was always a this. It was always a like,

658
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to put you in your place. I'm gonna

659
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: remind you. If it's on the page, you have to

660
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 5: say it. And it was like and I just was like, right, right, right,

661
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 5: Brooke and Peyton are having this beautiful moment where they've

662
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 5: come home to each other and now we're gonna go

663
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: out into our world and start seeing all of our

664
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: friends again. Yeah, and you're gonna make us do it

665
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: with the creepiest things that you say to us. Ill.

666
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: Gross gross, Ill.

667
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: Dude, where are Peyton and Brooks staying right now? I

668
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: can't figure it out.

669
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 8: I don't know.

670
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that you spent the night at

671
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: Mouth's house. That was my favorite, because that's what we

672
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: do in real life. I like it. I went out

673
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: with my girlfriends this past week and woke up and

674
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: was like, who put me to bed?

675
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 5: Oh?

676
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best.

677
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: It's so fun as an adult to be like, I'm

678
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: going to sleep here. And now. The cool thing is

679
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: is at our age, everyone's like hold on and they

680
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 5: open a drawer and there's just a bunch of new

681
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 5: toothbrushes and you're like, ma'am, really, we're really doing it right.

682
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: We're prepared for debauchery now.

683
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: I loved that wake up so much and like, oh,

684
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: oh my god, I have to go and I've got

685
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 5: to get Jamie and running around collecting the things, talking

686
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 5: to him and then having this moment of oh, you're here.

687
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: It was such a fun scene. That's one that's one

688
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: that I remember, Like in my bones.

689
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: You're so good with him, like it was your babysitting

690
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: skills were on full display here, because I mean, you

691
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: just take to it so naturally, and he's so drawn

692
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: to you. And you guys were doing in real life

693
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: what you're doing on the show. You know, like, we

694
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: didn't know this kid, and you're making a relationship with

695
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: him the same way Brooke is making a relationship with Jake.

696
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he became my little best friend. It was

697
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: so fun. We had so much fun at work together.

698
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 5: And I remember everything from you know, his little suit

699
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 5: and helping him zip it up and talking about how

700
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: I would have made it for him. And he loved

701
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: the story, and you know, swinging him in and out

702
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: of his Derby car and like we God, we just

703
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: had so much fun. It's such a sweet moment in time.

704
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: Jeff saw the Peyton Sawyer unemployed patch and one so bad.

705
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: He's like, where do they Where do they sell those?

706
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know they do. He's like, no,

707
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: I want that, I need that.

708
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 8: We should make one.

709
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 4: Here's what I remember from this episode. I didn't realize

710
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 4: it happened this early in the season, but this this

711
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 4: Derby car episode is the one where my childhood friend

712
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: Scott Krapatrick died in Iraq, And you can see it

713
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: on my face when Peyton and Brooke have to walk

714
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: from the river where you've thrown your phone and I

715
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: got to just hide in you and we're you know,

716
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: we walk back up, we see Lucas and Lindsay. We

717
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: have to walk past them and you're having band with

718
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: Jamie from like the Crowd, and you can see like

719
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: my face is all red, like I'm clearly super upset.

720
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 4: But that was such a surreal day because everyone was there.

721
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: We were down by the river. We had a ton

722
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: of work to do that day, and I'll just never

723
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: ever forget it. It was like I got the message

724
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: in my trailer. I went straight to JoJo's door in

725
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: the hair and makeup trailer and you were there, and

726
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: it was just like, I don't know, I got to

727
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: hide in you and you didn't leave me alone on set,

728
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: like we hit out at our chairs. Antwine's son was

729
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: there during the whole box car race, and it just

730
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: felt really safe after we'd already dealt with all this

731
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: chaos at work, Like I see it in the episode,

732
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: I see Peyton and Brooke, but I see you and

733
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: me behind it, being like we're dealing with some really,

734
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 4: really horrible dark shit and we're just gonna team up.

735
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't let anyone else get in the way. And

736
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: it's weird to watch it all these years later because

737
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: I can feel it. I remember what, I literally remember

738
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: every single step of that day. But yeah, to see

739
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: it just like kind of mixed into an episode, sprinkled

740
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: in thanks for taking care of me. We've told that

741
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: story at conventions and stuff before, but I will never

742
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: I will never forget that that was. That was like

743
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: my first really big grown up loss, and then to

744
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: have to go film it's like cool story, kids, Sorry,

745
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: your friend's dead. Anyway, we got to break for lunch

746
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: in thirty minutes, we got to get this shot. Let's roll,

747
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess I don't. I don't know how

748
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 4: other businesses are because we've only ever worked in this one.

749
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: But it can feel really, you can feel really cut

750
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: off from the real world and your real life because

751
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: you have to do this imaginary thing.

752
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

753
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: I also think there's a little bit of a disturb

754
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 5: that happens because, like all that's ever on TV are

755
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: these perfectly edited episodes, right, and all that's ever on

756
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 5: TV for our industry, that's like quote unquote behind the

757
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: scenes are award shows which are insane and not real.

758
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: And so everything that people who don't work in our

759
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 5: industry get to see is gorgeous, musical, lyrical and glamorous, furiated. Yeah,

760
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 5: And like we work in the circus in the mud Man,

761
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: it's so tricky and it's beautiful and it's strange and

762
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: it's profane and it's hard. It's really hard. And if

763
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: you ever express honesty about why it's hard, people go

764
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: because like they've only ever seen the golden.

765
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: Globes, right, And and I I don't know, I just

766
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: want to I really want to be a little clear

767
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: and like take pause.

768
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 5: To be honest about how hard it is to have

769
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: your world blow up and have someone look at you

770
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 5: and mean it when they say, I'm really sorry, but we.

771
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 6: Don't have time for this, right, right.

772
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: And then you are expected to split into and wait

773
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: for your real life so you can go do the

774
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 5: on camera life. And it's what we do, and it's hard.

775
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: It makes you a psycho. Like when you have to

776
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: compartmentalize your life like that, it makes you a total nutcase,

777
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: because then you can't stop doing that, like everything becomes

778
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: over here and then over there.

779
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: Well, you become a professional at disassociating.

780
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: Oh is that what I'm doing on my phone? Just

781
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 4: like scrolling doom scrolling disassociating.

782
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so when people say, well, for example from

783
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: last week, why didn't you talk about this sooner? Because

784
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: I'm a fucking professional at putting my feelings in a

785
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 5: box over there so I can come to work and

786
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: not bother other people.

787
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 6: That's it.

788
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: I'll deal with it in twenty years.

789
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, when the box explodes in my face, then I'll

790
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: have to deal with it. But what I will say,

791
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 5: morbid humor aside, is.

792
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 8: That was big.

793
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: And I felt really lucky about the ways that you

794
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 5: shared Scott with me and with us, and that you

795
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: have continued to do that, and that you've helped make

796
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 5: his memory advocacy that people get to participate in, and

797
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: that affected the trajectory of our show. Like You've done

798
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: a lot of really big things with how much you

799
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 5: loved that friend. And I feel really lucky key to

800
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: have been close to it and to you for all

801
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: of that. And I also want to remind you that

802
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: just like six months before you did it for me,

803
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: because in season four, when my grandpa died and we

804
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: were filming, you picked me up off the ground in

805
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: the quad because somebody said to me, I'm so sorry,

806
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: but we don't have time for this, and there aren't

807
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: many people who know how that feels. And I I feel,

808
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: really maybe this is like a weird thing to say.

809
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: I feel really lucky that you did that for me

810
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: once and I got to do it back. This is

811
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: all iss all.

812
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: It feels so met like, it feels really nice.

813
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's really weird, isn't it.

814
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 4: I You know, you and I were separated a lot

815
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: in the first few years, and then you know, our

816
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 4: characters are fighting, and then as we are scripted together,

817
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: we're having to deal with like grown up stuff and

818
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: really like confusing subject matter. And when we were coming

819
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: home in this season, you and I were also starting

820
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: to like go home in real life and have to

821
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: answer for who we'd become, you know, having to answer

822
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: to the people, you know, having to go to Scott's funeral,

823
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: you having to go home and see your friends or

824
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: see your family at your grandfather's service, you know, and

825
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 4: answer for what we had been living publicly. It isn't

826
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: necessarily what my friends or family thought was appropriate for me.

827
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't even allowed to watch teen dramas

828
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: growing up, and here I am neck deep in that shit.

829
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 5: That's so interesting that idea of it being appropriate. What

830
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 5: was hard for me was that people were like, isn't

831
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: it fabulous? And I was like, it's really f fucked.

832
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: Up and hard.

833
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: It's hard.

834
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: And then I learned, Oh, nobody wants to hear a

835
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: person who they look at as the on screen success

836
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: story say they're struggling. Oh I better keep this to myself.

837
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: Well, what I'll say is that I'm really glad Paul

838
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 4: was directing, because to hear that message Joy, Joy's back.

839
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: We've got joy back. She's in the car, right.

840
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: I can try not to talk too much's annoying through

841
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: the car microphone, but I'm here.

842
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: No, it's okay. It just there's a little bit of lag.

843
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: But you guys, we do have joy back. Joy. We

844
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: were talking about how back?

845
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: How wait?

846
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: What? Oh wait?

847
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: That's echo at a lagger and oh I'm gonna fix it.

848
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna fix it. Can you hear me out?

849
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can hear you bet but then we share ourselves.

850
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mute it, go ahead and talk.

851
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: That's okay.

852
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 5: We try sometimes with the car.

853
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: The car always gets us joy.

854
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 4: You just wave your hand when you want to talk.

855
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here, I'm here.

856
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 5: Okay.

857
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 4: Now we were talking about, you know, my good friend

858
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: Scott died in Iraq while we were filming this episode.

859
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: And while it sucks that when you work in film

860
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: there's no going home for the day, it's just like,

861
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: all right, suck it up. We still have eight hours.

862
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: You know, there's five hundred people here to make this

863
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: day happen. I was really glad that Paul was directing

864
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: because I had to shoot that scene with Lucas in

865
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 4: Trick like the day after Scott died. And so Scott

866
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: was the person that I did theater with growing up.

867
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: He was absolutely my partner and all of that. And

868
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: while he'd been in Iraq, we traded all of these

869
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: messages about starting a production company when he got out,

870
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: because he was planning to get out and we were

871
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 4: going to do an adaptation of Dostoyevski's The Idiot, which

872
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: is the play we did together in high school, and

873
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 4: update it and like so many big plans like Peyton

874
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: and Brooke with this record label. You know, we're going

875
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: to start a business. And I could not get through

876
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 4: that scene where Peyton says your art matters. It's what

877
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: got me here, because it was like I was talking

878
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: to my friend and it was killing me, and I'm

879
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: just like and they're like, you're not supposed to cry

880
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: in this scene, Hillary, and I'm like, right, right, right,

881
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: right right. But for all the times that you guys

882
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: wanted me to cry and I was really having trouble,

883
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 4: it's the opposite this time. And all I want to

884
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: do is sob and Paul was so good about being like,

885
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: I want you to say these lines like it is

886
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: the happiest thing that you can say to Lucas, and

887
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 4: he really coached me to say it with a smile.

888
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: And I think you can still feel Peyton wanting to

889
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: cry and putting on this brave face. But I was

890
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: absolutely talking to my friend in that scene, and I

891
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: don't know anyone who could have gotten me through it

892
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: other than Paul. He was so he was such a

893
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: chepherd in that moment. Of course.

894
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: So that was my favorite scene in the episode actually,

895
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: because you were so dropped into your body, your voice

896
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: sounded different, and I understand the context.

897
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: Now.

898
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 6: There was just.

899
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Something so so grounded and real about that, And I

900
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: hate that.

901
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate that.

902
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: It's like those things, this weird thing about our art

903
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: where pain sometimes equal you don't want it, and also

904
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: it can make such a huge difference in the lives

905
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: of the people who are experiencing that, And it's just

906
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: one of.

907
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 6: The weird things that we do as artists.

908
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: Live in whatever state we're in and then go to

909
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: work just somehow try and put it all together.

910
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 6: And whatever happened that day really was magical. And I felt.

911
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: Really moved by that scene. Yeah, I mean, I guess

912
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't have like a conclusion, but it was a

913
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: beautiful performance.

914
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: M Thanks. It made me feel bad like Chad was

915
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: the third wheel in the room, like, hey, we're sorting

916
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: through some real heavy stuff. Chad, I just need you

917
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: to stand there and look handsome if you could, that

918
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 4: would be great. But he he also is great because

919
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: I think he knew that I was moving through some

920
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 4: dark territory and knew just to just to stand there

921
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: and be steady and like good and that was that

922
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: was the right move, you know, because I think then

923
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 4: we had to do all the trick stuff that night too.

924
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: When we would go into trick, we like lived in Trick. Yeah,

925
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 4: it was fun to see all the girls out party

926
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: and Haley not being a mom for the night.

927
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved all of us being out

928
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 5: and and weirdly that they wrote that bit about the

929
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: girl who was wearing my clothes who wound up being

930
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 5: the girl you'd been talking about at the label and

931
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: we had this overlap we didn't know about, and then

932
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 5: we got to bring Haley into it, and we all

933
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 5: were like what it was. It was such a like

934
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: a genuine silly thing that happens with friends when you're

935
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 5: like did you read about that? You know, and everybody's

936
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: seen it because like for whatever reason, it's the top

937
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: of Twitter that day. Like it felt real and and light.

938
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: And funny, gossipy, just like dish. You know, who do

939
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 4: we think that actress was? We need to we need

940
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 4: to like figure out who the actress was.

941
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: Probably somebody who didn't deserve it.

942
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. That's it. We labeled all the

943
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 4: poor girls in the early aughts. Is like she's a

944
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: drunk because she like goes out at night. Yeah, it

945
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: was probably soone perfectly lovely.

946
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure she was fine.

947
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: She's fine, top ten head on Tierra.

948
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: Guys, what I'm sorry, Well, I was saying you were

949
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: saying she's so perfectly lovely, which also made me think

950
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: of Tory Tobato and I don't know if you guys

951
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: have talked about Nanny Carey yet, but.

952
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: No, we want you to talk about Nanny Carey.

953
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 5: Wait. Did you guys remember that she came in this early?

954
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: No?

955
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I couldn't believe it. Episode two.

956
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: It's like I don't know where to look. We've got

957
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: hot Mikayla and hot Tory. I don't know where to look,

958
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: just surrounding us with beauty.

959
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: They were great.

960
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: I love working with Toy.

961
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: She was genuinely so sweet, Like who you see in

962
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Trick that night, that's Toy. And for any of you,

963
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: if we haven't gone back and listened to our episode

964
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: with Tory from the live shows that we did, you

965
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: should go back and listen to those because she's so

966
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: great and has some funny stories. But she was just

967
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: lovely and couldn't have been more. Again, we always say it,

968
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: but it's hard to come into a show that's so

969
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 2: well established and then try and make a mark, especially

970
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: with a character that makes that big of a stamp

971
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: on the show. And she was so lovely and sweet

972
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: and kind and fun and just it was an absolute

973
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: dream scenario. It couldn't have asked for anybody better. It's

974
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: such a non competitive, like open person.

975
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 6: It's great.

976
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: She knows who she is. Did you know she was

977
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: gonna end up being a bad guy? Like, did you

978
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: know where it was going?

979
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

980
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

981
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: I don't think any of us did.

982
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 4: I mean, when you hire a nanny that is that beautiful,

983
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: you know it's gonna go sideways, right, It's gonna go bad.

984
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: What I thought was interesting though, is that again they

985
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 5: gave us a misdirect with it. Where Haley doesn't have

986
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: a problem with it, the girls are going hello mouth

987
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 5: because he's being judged on his looks by this rude

988
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: woman at his office, is like, don't do that. Also,

989
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 5: I'd love to see that girl in a bathing suit.

990
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: And we're like, eh, so you're there, they're playing with us,

991
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: will they or won't they? Will they or won't we?

992
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: Innocent or bad? And because Tory is so lovely and

993
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 5: her energy comes through her like it did in that

994
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 5: scene at the bar. You think like, well, maybe it

995
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: won't because that would be so stereotypical, right, like the

996
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 5: dad having the affair with the hot nanny. We've seen

997
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 5: it a million times. So in a weird way, they

998
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 5: make you debate what you already know so that you

999
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: don't see crazy nanny Carey coming.

1000
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. It's so weird knowing what's going to happen

1001
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: and seeing how just sweet and gentle she comes in.

1002
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: She's so likable. Man. It was really kind of hard

1003
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: to view Robbie Jones, who played Quentin as a high schooler,

1004
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: because he wasn't the same way we weren't. You know,

1005
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: he was our age and he's playing like in a

1006
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: lower bracket, you know, and we're like, but he's not

1007
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: a kid, he's our age, and so that kind of

1008
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: stuff does get kind of It's confusing because I'm like, oh, no,

1009
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: he's a potential love interest. The boys got Mikayla and

1010
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: Tori to show up and had new friends to play with,

1011
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: and we had someone playing a high schooler and we're like,

1012
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: that's not there. Come on, man, it's a really small

1013
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 4: fishing hole here in Wilmington, and I just want to

1014
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 4: kiss somebody that's new. No, I can't.

1015
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 5: It's like you said it in season one, Hillary, like

1016
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 5: it was either college students or retired golf guys. Like

1017
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 5: we didn't have anybody to kiss but each other, So like,

1018
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 5: what do you want?

1019
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 4: What do you want from us?

1020
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 5: And it is weird when the optics, you know, when

1021
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 5: we're all twenty five and we're now playing twenty five

1022
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 5: year olds, and then they bring in a twenty five

1023
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: year old to play a seventeen year old. You're like,

1024
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: what I would have I don't know. I would have

1025
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 5: loved to have seen if Nanny Carey didn't go crazy.

1026
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 5: I think I think her in mouth could have been

1027
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 5: very sweet, like this lovely woman and the news cast her.

1028
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 5: I don't know. But then like obviously I think that's

1029
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: really just because Mellicent's not in Tree Hill yet. But

1030
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: I don't know. She could have had a she could

1031
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 5: have had a lovely thing. Maybe she would have married

1032
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: a teacher. Maybe we would have just been these lovely people.

1033
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: Her and skills could have been real spicy.

1034
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like what.

1035
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: If she fell for junk? You know, yes, yeah, she

1036
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: could have been like I just I like how down

1037
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: to earth he is. I like, what a child at

1038
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: heart junk is playing with work on. My favorite line

1039
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 4: of the episode was little Jamie saying I'm taking a stand,

1040
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 4: to be echoed later by Brooke. Like that as someone

1041
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 4: who felt like she was taking a stand and some stuff,

1042
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: and you know the six months that surrounded this episode,

1043
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 4: I'm seeing a child be like not doing it ahead,

1044
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 4: Yeah it was great. Well, Jeff was on a chair

1045
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: behind me. I was on the couch and he's like

1046
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: seated behind me. And when or when Skills says, yeah,

1047
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 4: my man's taking a stand, he laughed out loud hard

1048
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, oh, we're invested. Okay, fantastic.

1049
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 4: He loves Skills. I love it. But that sense of

1050
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: not forcing your kid to do stuff they don't want

1051
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: to do, I'm that mom all day. I remember taking

1052
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 4: Gus to a rock wall. All the other kids were

1053
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 4: climbing the rocks and Gus got two of those little

1054
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: handholds up and was like, we're good, and you have

1055
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: to explain to them like, hey man, I'm so proud

1056
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: of you for not caving to peer pressure. Do it

1057
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 4: in your own time. You'll figure it out.

1058
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: That is such a.

1059
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 2: Hard thing to do as a parent, because you also know, look,

1060
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: my kid would never have learned to ride a bike

1061
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: if I didn't make her. She sat there and was

1062
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: like kicking the bike. She was so mad, she was

1063
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: so never seen her throw fit in my life except

1064
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: oh that bike. And it was like, I'm really not

1065
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: I really don't want to enter into a power struggle

1066
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: with her, but her future will be sincerely less exciting.

1067
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: If she doesn't know how to ride a bike. She

1068
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: can't go on vacation with friends. She can't just like

1069
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: run up the corner to see your friend, you know,

1070
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: want to, Like, you've got to know how to ride

1071
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 2: a bike.

1072
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I got gravel at my house. You

1073
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: can't really ride a bike here. I don't know if

1074
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 4: my son knows how to ride a bike. I didn't

1075
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: learn to ride a bike till I was eighteen years old.

1076
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 6: Did you really has been so much so hard to

1077
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 6: learn back then.

1078
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: But anyway, I mean, I think there's there's things like

1079
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: that for everything. I mean, it could it could be

1080
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: like a safety issue or something that you actually have

1081
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: to do, or you know, something that you're just like no,

1082
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: this is important, but we're getting right, Like, if you

1083
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: fall off the horse, the ideas you have to get

1084
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: back up. If you don't get back up, you will

1085
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: be paralyzed with fear for the rest of your life

1086
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: and you will never get back up on a horse.

1087
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: So as soon as you fall down, you have to

1088
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: get right back up on that horse. So I was

1089
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: watching that and thinking how great this is that Haley

1090
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: is giving Jamie that autonomy to make that decision for himself.

1091
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: But it did also make me think of all the time.

1092
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: So I was like, when it's hard to tell, like

1093
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: when is the moment when you're like, I'm so sorry,

1094
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: but you actually do have to do this.

1095
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: Because I had Gus before any of my friends had kids,

1096
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: I like I was on an island, like I didn't

1097
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: know who to ask about stuff like that. And I

1098
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: remember making the decision that I wasn't going to potty

1099
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: train him, and I was like, no, all these women

1100
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: are like being super competitive about like their kid potty

1101
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: training or like learning how to do stuff super fast.

1102
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna let him figure it out. And sure enough,

1103
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: he just woke up one day and was like, I'm

1104
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: potty trained now. And so that's totally been my method

1105
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: for everything. Like they just wake up one day and

1106
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: they're like, it's time. Today's the day, whether it's bike

1107
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 4: shit or or you know, go carts or whatever he

1108
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: wants to do. He's the personality like Jamie where it's like,

1109
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it today, and then you

1110
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: wait and a couple months later they're like, right now,

1111
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: this is the time. And then they feel so empowered

1112
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: because they're like, I knew this was the right time.

1113
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: You didn't know, mom, because you're a dumbass, but I knew.

1114
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: I knew. Wow, George, she just refuses to do it.

1115
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: She's just like, no, you'll do it for me. You'll

1116
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: do it for me. We'll push the cart for me.

1117
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 5: Isn't But isn't that also interesting to realize that you

1118
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 5: got to know a little bit about where people live? Yea,

1119
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: because there's no kid who's gonna bike around where's gus

1120
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: kinna go? It's not only taking a bike anywhere hundreds

1121
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: of acres of your farm, Like it's gonna take him

1122
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 5: an hour to bike to somebody's house and on gravel.

1123
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 5: Who's biking? But Joy, we grew up in neighborhoods where

1124
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 5: you would literally bike two blocks away to see your friends,

1125
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: and yeah, if you couldn't, you wouldn't be able to

1126
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: have a social life. And it's funny to get outside

1127
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 5: your own arena of experience and go what is that

1128
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 5: for you? And somebody who I think tells the story

1129
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 5: so well, Glenn and Doyle, who I still can't believe,

1130
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 5: I call a friend, what a weird things, one of

1131
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 5: my favorite authors, and she we just happened to be

1132
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 5: friends and I'll never get over it. And she's like,

1133
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 5: can you calm down about it? And I'm like, no,

1134
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: Today's not the day to use Hilary's point. Not today,

1135
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 5: maybe tomorrow. But she wrote, uh, there's a chapter in

1136
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 5: her book and untamed about taking her daughters and maybe

1137
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 5: some of their friends. I don't really remember what the

1138
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 5: group was to get their ears pierced. And one of

1139
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 5: the girls was really game, and one of them was like,

1140
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 5: nopem and somebody said just be brave and she said no, no,

1141
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 5: they're both being brave because one wants to do this

1142
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 5: and one does not, and they're both brave enough to

1143
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: listen to how they feel and know that they are

1144
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 5: making the right choices for themselves, and I was like, who,

1145
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: you should teach classes to everyone else because we could

1146
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: all use them. Like it was such an interesting way

1147
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 5: to put it in perspective and to really bring my

1148
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: tangential story back. What a funny, wild, cool thing that

1149
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 5: a four year old saying this is where my boundary

1150
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: is helped Brook Davis, an adult who runs a huge

1151
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 5: global company, say you know what, I'm setting a boundary today.

1152
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved it so good.

1153
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: Ha. The reveal of Brooke and Jamie pulling off the

1154
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 4: brown paper from the door and seeing that it's Karen's cafe,

1155
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: that was like goosebumpy. That was so sweet, full, sob

1156
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: for me. God, how could Karen just leave the cafe?

1157
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: It just makes me think, like what happened?

1158
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1159
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is she? We don't even know adults.

1160
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think she's in Australia or something. Weird.

1161
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't she.

1162
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: They didn't want to pay anybody.

1163
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got stingy. Yeah, our bosses wanted to buy

1164
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 5: very expensive sports cars, so actors were not getting paid,

1165
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 5: which feels crazy when you have Moira Kelly. But here

1166
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 5: we are. We'll just talk about her until she comes back.

1167
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: What else did we miss? There's so much stuff.

1168
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1169
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 4: I love a love triangle, so I'm super into. I'm

1170
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: super into the Lucas Peyton Lindsay thing. I'm really into

1171
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 4: what feels like it's gonna be the Nathan Haley Nanny

1172
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: Carey thing. Oh god, it feels so dangerous. But I

1173
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 4: want to know who Brooke is gonna kiss like it

1174
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 4: feels Brooke Davis, you know, the pied Piper of boys,

1175
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: is not making eyes in anybody right now, and it

1176
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: feels very weird.

1177
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 5: She needs that.

1178
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: Brooke has been constantly all about the boys, and this

1179
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: is so good for her, and I love that she

1180
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: can also just set up a storyline for us that

1181
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 2: isn't all about boy drama, because everybody loves a little

1182
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: boy drama. But we also need to see women just

1183
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: like figuring out how to start a company, I mean,

1184
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: or keep it people out and do it.

1185
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I just love that. I think that's so awesome.

1186
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: When she says on the phone, yes, there's a boy here,

1187
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: and we knew a little boy.

1188
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: It's my godson. You're just not letting me finish. Yeah,

1189
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: it's really nice, some little I'm sorry. Maria's here, she's

1190
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 5: getting in the car. I'm taking bye, honey.

1191
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 6: She's like, bane it was locked.

1192
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: Okay, mom, we have to go. Okay, guys, Okay, sorry,

1193
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: I won't all right, I'm gonna let you finish up.

1194
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, bye.

1195
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 4: See. That's how we do for the kids.

1196
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 5: That's what we do. I do love that Brooks world

1197
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 5: is expanding as she comes home, that she knows what's important.

1198
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: It's sort of what we were talking about earlier when

1199
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 5: we were talking about loss, that a big work life

1200
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 5: that consumes all of your time without a life life

1201
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 5: is not enough. Yeah, and we were all really struggling

1202
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 5: with that at.

1203
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 4: This Oh my god, well because at this age too,

1204
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 4: like where I come from, everybody gets married at twenty one,

1205
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 4: twenty two, and I was catching a huge ration of

1206
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: shit from everyone, like you didn't come to my college graduation,

1207
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: and you didn't come to my bachelorette party, and you

1208
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 4: didn't come to this, and you didn't come to.

1209
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 5: This, tell me about it.

1210
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: My time didn't belong to me and it didn't belong

1211
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: to you, And so I felt awful and was just

1212
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 4: constantly apologizing for being a bad person because I hadn't

1213
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 4: gotten this job.

1214
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're always on the receiving end of shit.

1215
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 5: And then someone will say, well, you know you went

1216
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 5: to that event and it's like, well, yeah, because they

1217
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 5: scheduled around it because they want us to do press

1218
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 5: that looks fancy from the outside, but that's they look

1219
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 5: at that as strategic. That's still then a commercial to go,

1220
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 5: yea commercial advertising guys, Come on, you know the the

1221
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 5: reality that you just you just don't get to go

1222
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: to things, you just don't and yes you love it,

1223
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 5: but it's hard and the struggle that it's both is

1224
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 5: something that I was really I just felt so connected

1225
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 5: to in this moment, and I think I loved the

1226
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 5: storyline so much because Brooke got to change it. I

1227
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: didn't get to go home, but she did. She got

1228
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: to form a relationship with her godson, and she got

1229
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 5: to be back with her best friend, and you and

1230
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 5: I had those moments that were so beautiful together and

1231
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 5: I was like, this is everything I want. Yeah, And

1232
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 5: I really really loved it.

1233
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 4: It felt good, It felt really real, and I know

1234
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 4: that we're eventually going to end up like in Brooks

1235
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 4: apartment somewhere all I can think is are they staying

1236
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 4: in a hotel in their own hometown right now? Because

1237
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: there is nothing that feels worse as someone that has

1238
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 4: to do that when I go home to Virginia, like

1239
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: staying in a hotel, really at the Riverview Suites or

1240
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: Brook and Peyton are at the Wilmingtonian.

1241
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 5: They're at the Wilmingtonian in the Marilyn Monroe room with

1242
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 5: the famed room. Does Peyton go home? I don't remember.

1243
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 5: Do you still have the house? The Sawyer House?

1244
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: No?

1245
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 4: No, no, they haven't shown where we are because I

1246
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: thought about that after last week's episode. I'm like, Peyton

1247
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: goes to pick Brook up at the airport, but then

1248
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: where does she take her?

1249
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 5: Where do we go? I'm very curious. I think this

1250
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: is probably why they make brook by a house so fast.

1251
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: Let's just settle down, girls, we're just gonna We're just

1252
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 4: gonna buy a house. What did we miss? Because I

1253
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 4: love getting messages from people that are like, I can't

1254
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 4: believe they talked for an hour. They didn't bring up this,

1255
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: So why don't I get yelled at anymore?

1256
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to get yelled at either. I watched

1257
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna confess something. I watched this episode on my

1258
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 5: lunch break at play rehearsal in London. Yeah, and I

1259
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 5: only made it forty two minutes or in or whatever

1260
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 5: I had. I think, hold on, I've still got it

1261
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: pulled up. I can tell you exactly where I had

1262
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 5: this stung.

1263
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: Oh, you have to see the end. The end is magic.

1264
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 5: No, because I remember, oh wait, oh, yeah, I have

1265
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 5: I have seven minutes and forty.

1266
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 6: Eight seconds left.

1267
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 5: God, so I knew once I realized what this episode was,

1268
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 5: I knew what was coming. I knew that I'm taking

1269
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: a stand was coming. I felt it in my bones.

1270
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 5: But guys, there's eight minutes. I have no idea. Holy

1271
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 5: tell me, what did I miss?

1272
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god? I mean the reveal of Karen's cafe

1273
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: is so good, like that was a winner. Nathan rolls

1274
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: that wheelchair into the pool.

1275
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 5: Right, oh, in the pool that I remember too. It

1276
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 5: was weird to't be watching and go, oh, I remember

1277
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 5: how this? Oh, I remember how this? And then I thought,

1278
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 5: I know the cafe happens. I know Nathan in the

1279
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 5: pool happens.

1280
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: But then he gets out of the pool and he's

1281
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 4: perfectly dry, and he goes to Jamie's room.

1282
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: No, he's not dry, girl, he's dry.

1283
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 4: He takes Jamie out to the racetrack and they race

1284
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: each other in the wheelchair in.

1285
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 5: The wrong car. Oh that's right. Oh god, So they

1286
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 5: do their own soapbox rally.

1287
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 4: Haley doesn't witness that, you know, And I guess I

1288
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: don't know. I just feel really sympathetic for Nathan because

1289
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: I've gone through dark patches that have certainly lasted longer

1290
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 4: than four months. And I'm like, see, he's connecting with

1291
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: his kid. They probably have these little like quiet moments

1292
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: that Haley doesn't witness, and he doesn't have to like

1293
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 4: be performative about it, like, hey, buddy, great, come talk

1294
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 4: to me. Oh that's so they were very cute.

1295
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 5: Sweet, I forgot about that.

1296
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1297
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 5: It's interesting because I, you know, in all, in all

1298
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: the journeys we've done, I identify with his experience and

1299
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 5: deep sadness and rage and all of that. And I

1300
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 5: know how long I waited to throw. I wish I'd

1301
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 5: done it sooner. Yeah, So I also really I also

1302
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 5: really want to cheer.

1303
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 4: Right now, we know the four months, what is the

1304
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 4: appropriate amount of time We're going to figure out what

1305
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 4: that is it's like, listen, I don't know, four months

1306
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 4: too soon, six months now you're dead to me.

1307
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 5: It also depends on it depends on what the issue

1308
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 5: is that's making you want to throw things.

1309
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: I think I mean Peyton leaving Nathan in the children's

1310
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 4: cancer ward of the hospital was so extreme and weird.

1311
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 5: That was unacceptable.

1312
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 4: Hi, I haven't seen you in four years. Just gonna

1313
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: drop you off with all these immune compromised children real quick.

1314
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 5: What bothers me about those sorts of liberties is that

1315
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 5: it's just implausible you would not be on the pediatric

1316
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: oncology floor taking someone to physical therapy. You know what

1317
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 5: I would have loved if you guys were having that

1318
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 5: conversation walking into the hospital and getting on an elevator.

1319
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 5: You turned him around and you and you smacked on

1320
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 5: college like you know, pediatrics or whatever in the elevator

1321
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 5: and shoved him out and said, look at how ungrateful

1322
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: you are. I'm out, And you left him there and

1323
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,879
Speaker 5: he had to wheel back and go to physical therapy,

1324
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 5: like do something more interesting. Then they're just happening to

1325
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 5: walk through here and there's not a single nurse saying

1326
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 5: you are not allowed on this floor. You could be

1327
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 5: bringing in a passage in I could kill a kid.

1328
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 4: We didn't think things through. Come on, that hospital set

1329
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 4: was ours. We were going to use it however we

1330
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 4: want well.

1331
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,480
Speaker 5: And it was only one floor. There was an elevator,

1332
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 5: but it went to nowhere.

1333
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: Hey, okay. Other favorite scene of the show though, is

1334
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: you me and Lucas on the river court like I

1335
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: love we went back to that space together.

1336
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

1337
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 4: It's like a magnet.

1338
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 5: And that was part of the place where when we

1339
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 5: were talking about our lives and you said, well you

1340
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 5: have this, I wrote it down. You said, uh, now

1341
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 5: I want to tell you what I wrote down and

1342
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 5: I can't see.

1343
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 6: It there it is.

1344
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 5: You said, you have a very busy, very great life

1345
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: in Brooko's Nope.

1346
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: Mm hmm that's what.

1347
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 5: It looks like. Nope, this is what I care about.

1348
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 5: We get into this thing about your dreams and investing

1349
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 5: in them and like we're going to do it together.

1350
01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1351
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 5: I just I loved how honest but like alive and

1352
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: joyous and oh messy it was. And then this boy

1353
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 5: shows up and it's like, hey, go talk to her

1354
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 5: about this. Oh it just felt so fun.

1355
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: Brook is such a good wing Man.

1356
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1357
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 4: No, but that sense of like I did the work thing.

1358
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 4: You and I do this in real life. You're doing

1359
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: it in Tulsa, you know, and you've done it in

1360
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: other small towns where you have kind of built chapters

1361
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: of your life. I'm doing it here in Rhinebeck. It's

1362
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 4: like we go out and we work.

1363
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 6: Work, work, work, work, work, work, work work.

1364
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 4: I feel like the last five years I've just been

1365
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 4: like working constantly, and then you hit this point where

1366
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna do a home chapter and

1367
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be home for a while. And now

1368
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm doing PTA and it takes precedent over literally everything else,

1369
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 4: Like I'm scheduling everything around PTA.

1370
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 5: PTA.

1371
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 4: It's the thing that restores us. Like we're cancers, we're homebodies,

1372
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 4: we're nest I like the Brook is able to embody that,

1373
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: and it doesn't look like failure. It looks like a

1374
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 4: different color success.

1375
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1376
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Well, and everybody's always got opinions about what you're doing. Hey,

1377
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 5: not everybody knows what you're doing.

1378
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: And b.

1379
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 5: We all we all need that. You know. I had

1380
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 5: all these people this year being like, well, what do

1381
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 5: you mean You're not going to go do a pilot.

1382
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 5: What's your next show? And I was like, no, I

1383
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 5: need a minute. I need a minute. I want to

1384
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 5: be I want to be home for the holidays. I

1385
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 5: want to I want to look around and just figure

1386
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 5: out what I want to do in this moment. And

1387
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: I was like, I want to go do a play.

1388
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 5: That's what I want to do. TV's there. I want

1389
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 5: to go do this other thing. And it feels exciting.

1390
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 5: And I think it can remind you of what you

1391
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: love and why when you give yourself a moment to breathe, reset,

1392
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 5: and then decide what excites you. And I love that

1393
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 5: these two friends are coming home to breathe and.

1394
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 8: Figuring out what excites them.

1395
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 4: Okay, we have a question from Haley not spelled like

1396
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 4: our Haley. This is a l E. I G. H Haley,

1397
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 4: if you had any scenes with Jamie, how would you

1398
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 4: go about rehearsing your lines with him? Would he have

1399
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 4: an acting coach on set to help him through every

1400
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: scene or did he rehearse ahead of time? I mean

1401
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 4: you worked with them more than I did.

1402
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we worked together a lot. You know,

1403
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 5: time with kids is limited, but yeah, he I think

1404
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: his mom really really worked with him a lot. You know,

1405
01:14:54,360 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 5: his mom and siblings uprooted moved to Wilmington so that

1406
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: he could do this job and his his I can't

1407
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 5: remember it. I feel like he had two siblings.

1408
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 4: Got it to me he had an older sister and

1409
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: a younger brother. Because I took the older sister with

1410
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 4: mike Lewonne's daughter to go see Mama Mia, I had

1411
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 4: a two nine year olds with me and jaming.

1412
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I was thinking for some reason that

1413
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 5: they were both older. But that's probably why I'm thinking

1414
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 5: of I'm thinking there was a running around set together. Yeah,

1415
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 5: but you know, his mom would really help him memorize things,

1416
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 5: and because he was not working every day like we were,

1417
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 5: he he had less to remember. And then we would work,

1418
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 5: so we would rehearse, and then we would kind.

1419
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 8: Of gamify it.

1420
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 5: You know. I could be like, well, when you say

1421
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 5: this to me, what do you think you're really saying?

1422
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: And he, you know, he could ask me what do

1423
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 5: you mean, and it's like, well, you know, somebody's have

1424
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 5: a really good day and you say to them, how

1425
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 5: are you and they say I'm good. Or if someone's

1426
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 5: having a bad day and you say to them how

1427
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 5: are you and they say, I'm good. Yeah, you know

1428
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 5: the difference, right, like what's really underneath it? And so

1429
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 5: we would play these games together that were really they

1430
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 5: were really fun and blocking with kids, you know, figuring

1431
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: out the action that happens through the scene, when you

1432
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 5: pick him up, when you high five, when you run

1433
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 5: around that really I think can ground them too. So

1434
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 5: he definitely had to do work at home and then

1435
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 5: we would just work together. And then I mean the

1436
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 5: lassitter said it last week. Sometimes she'd be hiding next

1437
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 5: to the kitchen cabinets going this is this is your line.

1438
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 5: We just made sure we always made sure he had

1439
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 5: the support he needed because he was only four.

1440
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 4: Gus just got offered a movie and I'm I'm like no,

1441
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 4: I like, we haven't even read the script. But I'm

1442
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: like also horrified because he wants to do it. And

1443
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, am I going to be

1444
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 4: a stage mom? Like is that what's gonna happen? Yep,

1445
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't. Like George is the age

1446
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 4: that Jackson was, and there's she's so feral, there's no

1447
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: way she would stand on a mark, Like she won't

1448
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: let people brush her hair. She's like, you know, I

1449
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 4: can't imagine my baby baby working. But Gus's got a

1450
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 4: mustache now, so he thinks he's a grown man and

1451
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 4: it's like, mother, I must man. Yeah, it's so stressful. Well,

1452
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: I'm glad Jackson had you to mother hen him on set.

1453
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 4: Just take him under your wing. What's our most likely

1454
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 4: to what.

1455
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 5: Do we got? Let's spin a wheel. Be curious too

1456
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 5: to ban it'spanon. I'd be so curious to hear Joy

1457
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 5: and James answer that question as well, obviously as the

1458
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 5: people who played his parents, like how yeah, how that was? Yeah?

1459
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 4: Could he read at that point? Or did someone have

1460
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 4: to read the line to him? Ooh? Who is most

1461
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 4: likely to.

1462
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 5: Become a detective?

1463
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: You don't du duh? Yeah, I mean it's kind of I.

1464
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 5: Mean, you literally do a documentary series about solving crimes.

1465
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 5: But also if something's going on, you're always the person

1466
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 5: to go, Guess what I found out, Guess what I

1467
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 5: dug up, Guess where blah blah blah went, Like you

1468
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 5: always know it's you A thousand go I'm nosy, Oh,

1469
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 5: don't deflect, You're you're good at it.

1470
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 4: No. I loved like on set learning things from the

1471
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 4: crew and being able to like trickle information down and

1472
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: be like, you know, you don't know about that. Oh

1473
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 4: my god. We're going through case files right now for

1474
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: the next season of our show, and it's just fuckery everywhere.

1475
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 4: And you know you want to when you're dealing with

1476
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: morbid subject matter, it messes with you, but you want

1477
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 4: to show up and do a good job for these

1478
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 4: people because no one else is. So I totally understand

1479
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 4: the private investigator mindset of like, all right, well, no

1480
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: one else is doing the job, I'll do it. You know,

1481
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 4: let's just roll up our sleeves. Who on our show

1482
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 4: would be a PI always kind of like Fergie. He's

1483
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 4: always around, but just.

1484
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 5: But he's mysterious. Nobody knows what he does. Maybe he's

1485
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 5: in the CIA, Yeah, come into that.

1486
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 4: Who else like doesn't have a job but is always around.

1487
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 4: I like those people you just never really know. What

1488
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 4: do you do? How do you afford your mortgage? How

1489
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 4: do you pay for gas?

1490
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1491
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 5: How'd you buy that apartment?

1492
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: Like his skills is his only job? The basketball coach?

1493
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 4: Does he not have like another hustle?

1494
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 5: It seems that way.

1495
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 4: I just remember when we were kids, those like one

1496
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,440
Speaker 4: eight hundred commercials where you could do mail order degrees

1497
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 4: and it was like at home nursing, private investigator. And

1498
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: I remember thinking like, why would I go to college?

1499
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 4: I could just stay home and be a private investigation.

1500
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1501
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 5: I could stay home and play the Inspector Gadget theme

1502
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 5: song to myself all day, dunderd Dirt, Dirt, Dirt, dar.

1503
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 4: Like, come on, I'm here for it. Sign me up, folks.

1504
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 4: We got an honorable mention.

1505
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 5: God, I feel like this whole episode is an honorable mention.

1506
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 5: Isn't that silly?

1507
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 4: I just love Nathan coming up out of the water

1508
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 4: because it was slow motion. It really was like free Willy,

1509
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 4: Like it was like a different movie, and it because

1510
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 4: there was so much heavy for me personally, and also

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Speaker 4: in the episode. I just loved that moment of like, da,

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Speaker 4: it was fun.

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Speaker 5: I love feeling like our heroes are back. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: you know, I know the journey's not over for him,

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Speaker 5: but what he's saying is he's gonna fight for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and that like that's that's it, that's everything.

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Speaker 4: And that we got to see him make that decision

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Speaker 4: by himself, not with Haley, not with his son, not

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Speaker 4: with anybody else like to see him do it by himself.

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Speaker 4: Now we get the added reward of him eventually revealing

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Speaker 4: it to people. So I'm excited about our future episodes.

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Speaker 4: What do we got next week? Baby?

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Speaker 5: Next week, Season five, episode three, My way home is

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Speaker 5: through you. Well, that's sweet.

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Speaker 4: I love you. We'll have so much fun in London.

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Speaker 5: Love it, Thank you, my angel, Love you all. See

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Speaker 5: you next week.

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Speaker 2: See you hey, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

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Speaker 5: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's Oth.

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Speaker 4: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 4: See you next time.

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Speaker 5: We all about that.

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Speaker 3: High school drama Girl, Drama Girl, all about them high

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Speaker 3: school queens. We'll take you for a ride and our

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Speaker 3: comic girl shared for the right teams

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens, tough Girl Fashion with your tough girl, you

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