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Speaker 1: And Samantha welcome to stuff Will Never told your production

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Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Samantha Wines a Lot

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Speaker 2: or Samantha's Gin Wine Session. That's what I call it

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Speaker 2: slash happy hour. So if you are partaking of anything,

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Speaker 2: please do so responsibly. As at this point, we're not

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Speaker 2: necessarily sponsored by any of the things we talked about. Man,

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Speaker 2: I would love to be sponsored to get a free

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Speaker 2: iud I guess I technically I do because of healthcare anyway,

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Speaker 2: just the preview of what we're talking about. But yes,

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Speaker 2: so currently not sponsored by any of the things that

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Speaker 2: we talk about. As we said, maybe things will change

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Speaker 2: later and they're like, yeah, you did a great job

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Speaker 2: in representing how awful we are. Anyway, any are you

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Speaker 2: sipping on something but sipping on beer that was covered

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Speaker 2: and baklov what because the package of baklava opened on

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Speaker 2: it at Dragon con b.

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Speaker 1: It's bringing back.

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Speaker 2: All the stickiness. I love it. I'm currently drinking a

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Speaker 2: soda because, you know, just keeping it chill over here

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Speaker 2: as I am going through all the things. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we have planned an episode, the episode for our listener

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Speaker 2: participation of our watch party with Sex and the City

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Speaker 2: season three. So if you're interested, if you're still thinking

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Speaker 2: about it, you're like, yeah, you know what, I don't mind.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to have ever seen it before. You

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Speaker 2: might not even know what we're talking about. But if

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Speaker 2: you're interested in just being on the show, watching hopefully

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Speaker 2: a lighthearted episode, I think so as well as just

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Speaker 2: sitting with us talking about the issues of the nineties

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Speaker 2: that still around in twenty twenty four. So send us

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Speaker 2: your name, let us know, you can email us, you

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Speaker 2: can dm us. We'll give you more information at the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. So stick around. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: will be doing that again. All you need is a

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Speaker 2: good internet connection, really right, and contact to our producer,

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Speaker 2: which we will provide when all the things are done,

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Speaker 2: all said and done, correct us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and if you have headphones, that would be idea,

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Speaker 1: but you can do without.

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Speaker 2: We can make it work. People make it work. But

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Speaker 2: all that to say is, yes, we will be doing that.

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Speaker 2: We'll be coming back to that. It's been kind of

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Speaker 2: a struggle time for me the last few weeks, maybe years,

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Speaker 2: who knows, as I put it, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: things have been happening to the point that any had

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Speaker 2: with family emergencies and it's one of those things where

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Speaker 2: this year has been a show with family illnesses and

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Speaker 2: it's never ending at this point. There are things with

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Speaker 2: my family that we are waiting on to do like

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Speaker 2: the actual I guess treatments is the best way to

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Speaker 2: say it. So a lot of things, a lot of

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Speaker 2: things are happening on my end. Birthday is coming up,

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Speaker 2: and I still am doing that same thing where I'm

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Speaker 2: like trying to want to celebrate, but I know it's

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Speaker 2: to do, which I don't understand. Is this a thing?

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Speaker 2: Is this a phenomenon? TikTok hasn't shown me anything yet,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming back to that season as it is September.

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Speaker 2: If y'all we're wondering as we're recording this and with that,

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Speaker 2: trying to do all of the responsible adult things that

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Speaker 2: happen in your forties, which, as my partner loves, we

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Speaker 2: put it a shmear and a squish.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, where did you hear this? And

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Speaker 2: I was like, are you where did you hear this?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so the schmear and the squish happened, meaning

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Speaker 2: I did get a pestmer as well as a squishing

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Speaker 2: I had a very sweet technician nurse technician who was

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Speaker 2: much for all of that. So I did have my

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Speaker 2: we all know healthcare sucks in the US, and it

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Speaker 2: just is a reminder of how bad things are. At

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Speaker 2: the same time, the card that I have decided to

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Speaker 2: funny because one of my infamous moments without ever being

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Speaker 2: old co host, good friend of mine, Caroline, good friend

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Speaker 2: of ours Caroline was talking about her experience and getting

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Speaker 2: because at the day least I would have validated the

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Speaker 2: like just being a whiner, which I'm a whiner, don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong. Wing's nice, I love it, but the

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Speaker 2: fact that that point of like, oh, this is actually

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Speaker 2: those large clots are not actually as normal. It's not abnormal,

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Speaker 2: so having that and then but then the removal. The

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Speaker 2: first two times they put anesthetics on me, like at

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Speaker 2: be proven before all those things. This time around, I

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Speaker 2: even though it had been like five six years, completely

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Speaker 2: that was more painful than anything else. What the hell?

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Speaker 2: Coming in? They did nothing any They put nothing on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. They thought like, oh, she if

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Speaker 2: was the most impressed. She was like, what I was

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Speaker 2: seeing color? I almost vomited all these things. Oh, was

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Speaker 2: passed out. I should have had someone drive me. All

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Speaker 2: those things to me being like, no, I went on

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Speaker 2: a run. I don't know what you mean. And she

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Speaker 2: felt because it's been so many years that I've had

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Speaker 2: like that. Don't get me wrong, I've had little cramps

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Speaker 2: at the end of the second ID because it was expiring,

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Speaker 2: so I guess the hormones was listening, but I had

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Speaker 2: not felt that. And the way it felt like she

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Speaker 2: I don't know why she decided not to put the

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Speaker 2: that She didn't feel like it was as bad as

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Speaker 2: the opposite. I have now adjusted to it and everything's

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Speaker 2: I feel, I was like, I thought we had gotten

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Speaker 2: IUDs are painful and that we do admit it and

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Speaker 2: we should be doing something better for women, Like that's

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Speaker 2: articles that I've been reading and tiktoks. I was like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: so doctors have gotten the hint? They have not? It

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Speaker 2: seems they have not, And I'm confused as to why,

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Speaker 2: why how are we backing away from the fact that

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Speaker 1: It is it really, really is. I feel like so

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Speaker 1: people with uteruses go through, are just we're just expected

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Speaker 1: to be like, dust yourself off, go to work, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's really because this is incredibly painful, am I

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Speaker 1: being It's like gaslighting?

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Speaker 2: You are you punking?

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Speaker 1: You should be fine? You should be fine? What are

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Speaker 2: It might be one of those toddler moments when if

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Speaker 1: Well thanks for this report, because I told you I've

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Speaker 2: It's not bad, yeah, but it's good to hear. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And apparently the the gynecologist's recommendations are always our early

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