1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where Cynthia Freeland is getting tired 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: of me talking about the greatest streak in sports eleven 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: weeks long. I'm Greg ro keep going. I'm here in 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio with my great friend Cynthia Friedland, 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: the smartest person at NFL Network and has to hear 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: me talk about our little pick show where we picked 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: three games. Little show it is, it is, and we 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: This jacket, that is you're looking very stylish. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Thank you, AKA, this is kind of like, Yes, we 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: celebrated Christmas last weekend Rosenthal Christmas, and this was one 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: of the gifts from my beautiful wife. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Well obviously she's got great taste. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: So she really does. She really does, except for in husbands. 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: But she actually told me to take off the ratty 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: looking two lane sweatshirt that I was gonna wear today 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: to represent you. I was going to just didn't look 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: quite right. So I decided to get fancy and yes, 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: eleven straight winning weeks on the Picks, and I went 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: three and ohero last week, up to twenty nine and 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: sixteen on the season. I'm never gonna top this season again, 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: but I gotta say Cynthia. Yeah, this week was tough. 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I only had like one game that I just loved, 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: and after that I was just like, Okay, like last week, 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I was feeling it. You you helped contribute, by the 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: way to that re and oh record, because you talked 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: me out of doing Cardinals plus nine and a half 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: and they got smoked by the Texans and so they 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: kept kept me undefeated. Why don't you want me to 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: go first? 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: You go first? 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, the one I really like? 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: There's only one or how many deals that I love? Oh, 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: the one you love? 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Okay, really only one, and it's the Chargers plus two 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: and a half. And I've been just going with my 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: gut of like picking winners in these games where it's 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: plus three minus three. Not getting too cute. This feels 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: like one where they're almost daring us, definitely to take 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers. But you know what I said that about 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: last week one of them too, and it worked out fine, 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: the Chargers being five and a half point hunderdogs. Remember 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: we thought that was bait. I mean they won that 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: games straight up? It did sometimes yep in football. Now 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: this is what I don't know, if the analytical models 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: can test I think sometimes in football there are certain 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: teams that deep within their bones as a team, and 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's like forty five players active on 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: game days. They at the end of games or in 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: key spots, they're like they almost want to lose. They 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: will find ways to lose. Are they had that in 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: their bones. I felt that watching Chargers Chiefs last week, 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: that the Chiefs they were just going to find a 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: way to lose that game, even if it didn't make sense. 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: But on the flip side, I think the Chargers are 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: one of those teams that there's just something greater than 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the some of their parts right now where they believe 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: that they are going to find a way to win 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: one of these games. And I think they're mentally and 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: maybe even physically tougher than they opposition, certainly this week, 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: and all they got to do is win the game. 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: They don't even need to. They could lose by one 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and I would still cover this that they're plus two 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: and a half. I feel great about this because I 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will find a way to lose this game, 66 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers will figure out a way 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: to win it. 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't usually go much based on like gut. But 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: when I looked at the fact that the Cowboys were favored, 70 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: I just thought, I'm like, am I reading this wrong? 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: Like I thought, maybe I had lost my mind. I mean, 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: it's possible I probably have lost my mind, But actually 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: both things can be true. I've lost my mind and 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: that can be weird. But I mean, I just was 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: surprised that they were even favored. 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: About what does your model have? 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: My model has a straight up win for the Chargers. 79 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, good. So so I do have some real 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: reasons too, and I really believe in it. If you 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: are a fan of the Feed, you'll have checked out. 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: On Thursday. This came out the New Power Players episode 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: with a general manager vice or assistant general manager, Chad 84 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Alexander of the Chargers, who said, we want to bully. 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: The other teams want to build a bully and I 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: think you can kind of see that that the culture 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: that they've built, they really are more physical. And then 88 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you think about the Cowboys side of things, probably no 89 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and this game he's in the concussion protocol. 90 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Their offensive line has been really banged up upfront. The 91 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Chargers are running the ball pretty well, and they're getting 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: after the pass rushers. So I actually think they're better 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: upfront than people realize, and their biggest weakness on the 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: offensive line, justin Herbert mitigates that, and I don't think 95 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: it'll be as bad against the Cowboys again and against 96 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: most teams. 97 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: Especially without without Big Q if he doesn't play. 98 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: In My hottest take here is the offensive line. Maybe 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: they're figuring out just a little bit I watched last week. 100 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: I know it's against the Chiefs, but they're not a 101 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: great pass rush. But Jamari Sallier is their left tackle 102 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: right now, and I think if they're playing the defense 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: that like doesn't challenge them in the way that Spagnolo 104 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: did with all these blitzes and everything. I think they 105 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: can survive and let Herbo be Herbo, and you might. 106 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: You might get to sit back and enjoy like a 107 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: twelve point win for this game. Don't even worry about 108 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: the spread like it's a two score. Yeah. 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: No, I'm completely with you. I just for my first pick. Yes, 110 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: I never see so I have a more conservative model. 111 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: A lot of things you see NTV media models are 112 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: often very like reactionary, like it'd be like one hundred 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: percent ninety nine percent, like they'll be like these massive swings, 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: like you should never if you're a good model, or 115 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: you should never have something that goes from like a 116 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent chance to the other team. 117 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: That should happen once in like a million games. Not 118 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: it shouldn't anyways, So I digress. My point is I 119 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: rarely see anything over eighty percent. Rarely, like it almost never. 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Happens eighty percent, Like eighty percent the. 121 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Confidence cover, No eighty percent that a team will win, okay, 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: Like I just rarely see it. Yeah, Usually it's like 123 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: seventies is like something crazy, okay. Eighty percent in my 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: model implies sixteen points woo okay, which is why fourteen 125 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: points for Houston ooh, I love it is? Uh? Is 126 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: is what? And I'm not no shade to the Raiders 127 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: although they only manage seventy five yards of offense against 128 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: the Eagles last week. I'm I'm looking at this opportunity here. 129 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: The Texans need it in order to ascend to the 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: top of the ASC South, which I AFC South, which 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: I anticipate that they end up doing. I'm looking at 132 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: this and not to kick a hornetstack kick a Raider 133 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: while they're down, But. 134 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Why not you said, like, no offense to the Raiders, 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: all offense to the Raiders, unless you've been listening to 136 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: this show in which you've been cashing in picks week 137 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: after week. Last week, one of my picks was Philly 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: minus eleven and a half. It almost felt too easy 139 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. They won that game by thirty one. Yep. 140 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Yeah. 141 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 142 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: And you, by the way you hit your Texans pick 143 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: last week, that was the one I was saying that 144 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you talked me out of. And I think it was 145 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: an interesting moment for them because they've had such a 146 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: tough schedule it they've now come together. We know their 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: defense is good, the offense is definitely playing better. And 148 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: it was the first time we've seen them as a 149 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: heavy favorite, yep. And they kind of looked like a 150 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl team. And so this is another you know. 151 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: I think that the configuration of the super Bowl team 152 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: for the AFC, it's going to be all defense. I mean, 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: it's to me, it's either the Broncos or the Texans. 154 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: I know everyone's like excited about the Bills, but but 155 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: for Josh Allen, I don't know what I'm. 156 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Looking plus, it's gonna be hard for them to win 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the division. They're going to need two Patriots losses. 158 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: They're not going to win the division. 159 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: They're they're very likely not to win the division. Geno 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Smith was at practice just as a piece of information. 161 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Game to care. 162 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: I mean, no offense. Like again, I feel very mean 163 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: because I like the I love their branding's awesome. I 164 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: love the history of the Raiders. 165 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: I love go to the branding. I love their I mean, 166 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I do think Gino is an upgrade over Kenny Pickett 167 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: of course, but yeah, they were one of rite down 168 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: here if you're looking at myself. I love it because 169 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: once I only had one. Then I was like, okay, 170 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: just write down some that I just kind of like. 171 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: And I wrote down five of them. One of them 172 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: was Houston, So you got that for us. 173 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: But I ultimately have to memorialize that they have an 174 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: eighty one percent chance to it. 175 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: That's amazing eighty one the average fan. And I'm putting 176 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: myself in that. I would think it's even higher, like you, 177 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: but I I get what I mean. 178 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: Conservative modeler would say, yes, that's why I'm telling you. Like, 179 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: for example, you know the majority of my win totals 180 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: end up being somewhere between fifty five and sixty. Okay, 181 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: so to get eighty eighty one? 182 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Where is I'm putting you on the spot here, Yeah, 183 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: all the numbers. Yeah, where is your Lions percentage of 184 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: winning this week against the Steelers? It is they are 185 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: favored by seven points. 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: The Lions are Oh dang it, I hate this five 187 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: fifth most confident. 188 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Okay, but like, what's the percentage? Do you? 189 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent? 190 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Okay? See, but that's not that crazy, Like if you 191 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: were if you were six point seven, but you know, 192 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: hoping that something good or bad was going to happen 193 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: to you, and you hear you have a fifty seven 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: percent chance good forty three percent, but you wouldn't feel 195 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: that good about it. 196 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: No, there are a lot of close ones this week 197 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: because a lot of like some of these ones that 198 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: are worth nothing have surprisingly close Like they're volatile. There's 199 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: a lot of volatility in outcomes that don't matter like 200 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee exactly. 201 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: And so that was, like, what the heck. One of 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the reasons why I struggled to pick this week was 203 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: the games. And there's five of them with two teams 204 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: that are not in contention against each other. I struggled 205 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: with those types of games, and so that's why I 206 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: went here. And I'm on the same side as you, 207 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: and I know you're not going to go against your 208 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Lions for this. Uh So I'm going Pittsburgh plus seven. Okay, 209 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Now it's one of those games. 210 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: I have them only winning by six. 211 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: So okay, there you go. 212 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so then we'd be on the side. 213 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Okay, I was thinking you said five, 214 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: you've been fifth most confident, not five, I'm. 215 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, six points the fifth in terms of confidence. 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but you have the you have the Steelers covering, 217 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, that six scenario is a huge reason why 218 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: I really like the Steelers in this game, because I 219 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: think they can underperform. I think they can be a 220 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: little disappointing in this game defensively and lose the game 221 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty four and we cover, and by we, 222 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the Steelers bandwagon this week. Why seven point 223 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: is a lot. 224 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: For You're on the Steelers bandwagon to win or to cover. 225 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: I picked the Lions to win on our show game debut, 226 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: so I got to go by by that. Putting my 227 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: money where my mouth is, but I wouldn't be surprised. 228 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: And that's one of my maxims in making this is 229 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't be surprised that the team is going 230 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: to win straight up and you're getting a big number, 231 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: usually for me it's six or more, and I'm like, 232 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: I can see them winning that game. I think this 233 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: would be a good win for the Lions. I think 234 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the numbers and this is where I'll ask you, the 235 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: numbers love the Lions right now. I feel like some 236 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: of the underlying numbers DVA for instance, has them as 237 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the number three team in the entire NFL, and that's 238 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: crazy to me. And I know you're making a skeptical view. 239 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: I know your numbers don't have that, but I think 240 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: because they're so good offensively, they are the number one 241 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: scoring team in the league that the some of the models, 242 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and maybe yours is in there, they have them as 243 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: a six point favorite against an eight and six Steelers team. 244 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: What are they seeing in the Lions that maybe look 245 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: at them as a better team than maybe I do 246 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: right now? 247 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Leverage because they're taking more risks, and the Steelers, to me, 248 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: the Steelers defense not being the Steelers defense that we're 249 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: used to means that when you have when you take 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: risks like going for an and fourth down like the 251 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: Lions do, then if they work even two fifths of 252 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: the time right forty percent of the time, then you're 253 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: going to score a touchdown instead of I think that 254 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: when I look at a seven point win for the 255 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Lions in this scenario, I think what it's saying is 256 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 2: that the Lions' risk riskiness on offense overvalued compared Like 257 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: I would have thought it'd be four points, right, that 258 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: sounds four or five points. I wouldn't have thought a 259 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: full touchdown. 260 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: And it goes back to something we talk about on 261 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: NFL Daily lot, do you do you value the entire 262 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: season's worth of data or do you value the last 263 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: three or four weeks? And I think when I'm looking 264 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: at the Lions and thinking about the players that they're missing. 265 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Sam Laporta is not coming back, Brian Branch is not 266 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: coming back, Herbie Joseph he hasn't come back yet, and 267 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: when he does, will he be Okay, we don't know 268 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: about that. 269 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: Lions fans right now are like, but what but do 270 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: we get Christian Mahogany the guard? 271 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe? Maybe? But the offensive line is not coming back 272 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to being a dominant offensive line now one of the 273 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm a little dangerous. It feels like I'm 274 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: walking into a trap. Seven points. And then I'm believing 275 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: a little bit in what I've seen from Aaron Rodgers 276 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Right, I think he's at 277 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: his best two games of the season in a row. 278 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you're showing you guys are showing me 279 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: some development on offense. TJ. Watt not expected to play 280 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: because of the lung situation. And then Nick Herbig, who 281 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: is a dynamite replacement for TJ. Watt, is out of practice, 282 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: left the game late against Miami. It seems like he 283 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: might miss this game with a hamstring injury. And so 284 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: suddenly you're losing two of the best pass rushers in 285 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the AFC, like in the league, like Herbig's in the 286 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: top ten fifteen for pass rusher win rate, all that stuff. 287 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: So you're losing two big pass rushers. You give Jared 288 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: gott some time, it might be like I would take 289 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: the over in this game big time. I like tons 290 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: of points for both teams. I would like the Lions 291 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: over team total for sure. Yeah, I have it right, 292 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: but I actually can I have big time over. I 293 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: do not like where the Lions defense is at right now. 294 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: So that's the big reasons. I kind of think the 295 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: Steelers can keep up a little bit in a shootout 296 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: and just a one score game. 297 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I just okay, okay, So I told 298 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: you I don't like the games with nothing to play for. However, 299 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: I do think one there's one that I like enough 300 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: of what to play for to pick for them, and 301 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: that's Tyler Shuck the New Orleans the New Orleans Saints. 302 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: I like that quietly, Tyler. So it's four and a 303 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: half points at home. The Saints are favored over the Jets, 304 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: and I think what I've seen from Tyler Shuck in 305 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: this situation, and also the fact that the Jets are 306 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: on historic pace of not having any interceptions this season. 307 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Even if they have one, that's still not going to 308 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: be nowhere. You're being good at intercepting the ball. But 309 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this and I'm like, he's trying to 310 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: prove that he's the quarterback to build around there. This Saints, 311 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: they're good at it. They're sneaky good at stopping inside runs, 312 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: and that's kind of the bag of tricks that Bryce 313 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Hall and the Jets like to try to run. I 314 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: don't trust a darned thing about this Jets. I know 315 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: they fired their defensive Quarner. I get it. I think 316 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: it's mean to fire a defensive cordator after trading away 317 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: Quentin Williams and Sauce Gardner with three games left. Whatever. 318 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Not my decision, but that's a weird decision in my opinion. 319 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: And I don't think that gives you the bump of 320 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: being like, yeah, now we're gonna go out there and 321 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: beat the pants off of Tyler Shuck and the New 322 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. No, they're gonna run the football. They're gonna 323 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: have some nice passes. Shuck has done a good job 324 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: of running the football himself. It's been they've won two. 325 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: They just beat the Panthers. They can do it, and 326 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: they're at home. 327 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: And they just beat the Bucks. Shuck is playing really well. 328 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: I love that one. I don't know why it isn't. 329 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: I understand it was nothing for it. I mean because 330 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: these games where there's nothing. Yeah, but I think Shuck 331 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: has something. Shuck sitting or being like I'm your quarterback. 332 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: He looks really good. They have a couple injuries, Devon 333 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: vele and Devin Neil, but those aren't like superstar players. 334 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: They're just playing a lot of snap for them. He 335 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: is playing as well, certainly as any rookie quarterback right 336 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: now in the NFL. And you know what's interesting about 337 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: this one, because I agree we do an over under 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: pod at the beginning of the year. Yeah, it was 339 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: me and Nick Wright this year and under Saints five 340 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: and a half was one of my picks, and they 341 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: were at two and ten a couple of weeks ago, 342 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: and you're feeling so they would have had to win 343 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: four out of five to finish the year to pull 344 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: that off. If they win this game, that's three straight 345 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: and then they only need one more to in. The 346 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: two games remaining are at Tennessee at Atlanta, two games 347 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: where they're going to have an opportunity to win the game. 348 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: They might have. 349 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: Favorite what the heck they're doing? 350 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Huh? I might lose that. They might lose this, Okay, 351 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: but I hope I do, because that'll mean you were 352 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: you were right, and they got to they gotta cover 353 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: four and a half. I think they can last one. 354 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: Thought about a few different big favorites. You took the Texans, 355 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: so I'm going to take my other big favorite, and 356 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: that's Buffalo minus ten and a half. I just don't 357 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: think the Cleveland defense is in the same place right 358 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: now as it was. 359 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Who's playing a month ago other than Miles Garrett. It's 360 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: like we get these emails about whose potential and like 361 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: the Browns one like it's like this long. They're like, oh, well, 362 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: maybe you should just tell me who's playing, because most 363 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: teams it's like this long. 364 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Brown's like it's like a Dostoevsky novel. It is if 365 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: you look at the Browns just and very dark, just 366 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: like yes, it's like and a lot of those players 367 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: are offensive linemen. Uh for the Browns well, and. 368 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: Then like Denzel Ward and Carsion Schwaschinger like, yes, there's 369 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: some other ones too. 370 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Ward says he'll play, but he keeps missing practice, so 371 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: we'll see. 372 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: And he say he was gonna play last week too. 373 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 374 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: When you don't have any offensive lineman. I actually think 375 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the Bills overall up front have been better down the stretch. 376 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: They are helping you don't have any offensive lineman, yeah, 377 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: I mean better if there's no offensive lineman. 378 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: That was the thing about Shitter's performance last week. He 379 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: did not play great, but you're literally playing with one 380 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: starting offensive. 381 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, they blitzed and he was like a. 382 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Last two games for the Browns at home. Yeah, I 383 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: just went to check this. Lost by eighteen to the 384 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in bad weather too, which what it 385 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: should have kept the score down, and lost to the Titans, 386 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: which is you know, that's a bad loss. So I 387 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: think sometimes with these meaningless teams right now, you're at home, 388 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that's an advantage. It's just bad vibes there. 389 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: That place is miserable and on top of everything else. 390 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: This is more of an anti Browns than it is 391 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: a pro Bills. But I'm very pro Bills right now. 392 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen could still win the MVP. Whatever 393 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: those odds are right now, I would take them in 394 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: terms of I don't know the value, he's definite. He's 395 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: pretty a distant Yeah, he's a pretty distant third. I 396 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: think he's got a real chance here, although you'll have to, 397 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, put those in. We'll see. They have the 398 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: worst special teams the Browns in the entire NFL. According 399 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: to DVOA, by a decent amount. So, I mean, your 400 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: offense is struggling. One thing that was good was your defense, 401 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: but now you're getting run on every week. And the 402 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Bills are great at running the ball, so I could 403 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: see them. This would be like an Eagles Raiders situation 404 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: where they're winning this game by twenty five thirty points. 405 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: All right? 406 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Can we pick a Saturday game? Is that fair game? 407 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 408 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: Okay? Cause I like the Packers to. 409 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: Cover one mm. 410 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: They're road favorites by one point in Chicago. I know 411 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: there's no micro Parsons. I'm aware heard that. You know, 412 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 2: I actually heard about that somewhere. 413 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: I picked the Packers too, so I'm with you. I didn't. 414 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I didn't feel good that it was just a stay 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: away for me. But that is my pick for that game. 416 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: I just I know that there's a lot of like 417 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: hype around the Bears, I understand, but there's no real 418 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: mood Dunesday yeah there? Who else are we missing? 419 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Luther Burden? 420 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: So even if you're even if DJ Moores been playing great, 421 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: which he has, you still now have a much different 422 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: defensive capability of shutting down the pass catching game. It's 423 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: not even like you were seeing kileblames lighted up through 424 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: the air anyways. I mean, he had a nice game 425 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: last week, but like, okay, like I need to see 426 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: it more consistently before I'm willing to to go with that. 427 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: But the Packers are really hard to run on, and 428 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: I understand that Micah Parsons is not there, so they're 429 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: gonna whatever. But they're built to not allow explosive runs 430 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: or passes. So if they even have good a few yards, 431 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: it's okay because they're better in the red area and 432 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: then they're and they're good at not allowing explosives. So 433 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: I just think that the Packers show the Bears why 434 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: they're still the classes A division. 435 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: Big laflaur game. You know, nobody believed in us after 436 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons. 437 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: Wait, can we do that we did to do that 438 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: handshake that was so awkward with Ben that like that 439 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: was so good. Just the drive by Ben Ben Johnson's hilarious. 440 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he you know he's going to keep it safe. 441 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: Think a shirt will come off after that's I. 442 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Mean, you don't say that you enjoyed beating Matt Lafleur 443 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: twice a year, so you stay in the division unless 444 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: he really did enjoy beating Matt Laflair twice a year. 445 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Bring back just like the smallest bit of trash talking. 446 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: It's fine. These are confident men who trash talk a 447 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: lot in real life. Let's do it in front of 448 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: a microphone again. 449 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: I'm with you on the trash talk, but just be 450 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: good at it, Like. 451 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Don't he's pretty good. That's good. 452 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 2: He's weird. 453 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Is weird? 454 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: I kind of get it. 455 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: They like him. 456 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not a great coach, but like 457 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: I just feel like maybe he's like pulling it back. 458 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: But like I kind of get the ick when he's 459 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: talking about it, Like I wish you would just say 460 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: what he was gonna say. 461 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: Right, It's kind of like everyone got really fired up 462 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: with the taking the shirt off thing, and and I 463 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: get that he got free hot dogs for the entire city. 464 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: There was a whole story behind that. They said, if 465 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: he had taken off his shirt, then everyone gets free 466 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: hot dogs at this hot dog stand. So he did 467 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: everyone at a solid in Chicago. I don't ask while 468 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: they're still there in Chicago. You gotta get as many 469 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: hot dogs as he can. That was actually the reason, 470 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: the biggest reason why I support your pick is when 471 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: the Bears put out that statement to their season ticket 472 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: holders that they're considering every possibility, including moving to Gary, Indiana, 473 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days before you play the Packers. Bad juju. 474 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: It's an embarrassment. That's what bad organizations do, is put 475 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: out a statement about possibly moving to Gary, Indiana days 476 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: before playing the Packers and the biggest game in a decade. 477 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson is from Gary, Indiana. And when you drive 478 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: through it, so I'm from Michigan. I lived in Chicago, 479 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: went to a business school there and all that stuff. You 480 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: drive home, you go through Gary, Indiana, you don't stop 481 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: in Gary. You don't stop in Gary, Indiana. 482 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: The fine folks of Gary taking uh. 483 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm sure that there are nice areas of Gary, 484 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: but where they would put a stadium is not where 485 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: you would have the nice areas. They're not tearing up 486 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: any nice areas. 487 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: It just gives too much trash talking Indie Botter for 488 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: Packers fans Illinois. Now Bears fans got to be on 489 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: social all weekend and they're gonna hear everyone calling them 490 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the Gary Bears. You know, the Gary Barrys. Who knows 491 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's anything that would ever actually happen. 492 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Kind of like when the Patriots almost moved to Hartford. 493 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: But it's one more reason to take the Packers, all right. 494 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Cynthia's picks to recap. She's got the Texans minus two 495 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns fourteen, the Saints minus four and a half, and 496 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: the Packers. What did that line settle at the pack 497 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the Packers being a one point favorite. I took the Chargers. 498 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: They are two and a half point underdogs in Dallas. 499 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: Way too much respect there for the Cowboys. Feel a 500 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: little less good, but okay about the Steelers plus seven 501 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: and then I have the Bills minus ten and a 502 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: half in Cleveland. Let's keep the winning streak going. We're 503 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: trying to make it twelve straight weeks. We have even 504 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: more wins in the feed coming your way on Saturday. 505 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Really excited for everyone to hear this episode. It's gonna 506 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: be me and Allie Connolly the Saturday Sicko Show. We're 507 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: going to go through every coaching situation in the league 508 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: and decide who's who's keeping their job who's not. Could 509 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Harbor or Tomlin go and then propose some good candidates. 510 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: John Harbough Jim. Jim is safe. He's not going back 511 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: to Michigan. 512 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: Actually, after beating Dallas. 513 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: No uh so before. We will be back on Saturday. 514 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: With that and thanks to Cynthia, We'll see you next week.