1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should Know? 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: From House Stuff Works dot Com. Sometimes science goes too far, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: dog matters twisted but true. Wednesday's at ten on Science. Hey, 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant. Say, hey, Chuck, Chuck. That makes the stuff 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: you should know. It's such an old joke. Yeah, terrible, 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: It's still It's got a lot of little staying power 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: and little else. It has as much staying power as 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: cat urine. Chuck, you want to hear the history of 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the microwave? Woman? I love in forty seconds or less? 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: All right back in, a guy named Percy Spencer was 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: touring the labs of the Raytheon Corporation when he passed 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: by a magnetron. If he had unpopped popcorn in his pocket, 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: then I'm leaving right now. We'll get to that. That 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: doesn't count against my forty second I thought, like popcorn 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: popped in his pocket? No, he had a chocolate bar 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: in his pocket and it melted, And he's really, what 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: the hell is going on here? So he actually ran 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: and got a bag of popping corn and it started 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: popping too. And then he finished the whole thing off 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: spectacularly by getting a pot and a raw egg and 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: holding it near the magnetron, and it exploded into his 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: buddy's face. Anyway, he figured out he was producing microwaves. No, 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: he lived to be an old man, but he figured 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: out that this was producing microwaves, and he um put 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: it in an invention. So everybody has a microwave oven 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: today has a tiny magnetron in their house. He put 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: it in an invention. Yeah, that's a unique way of 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: saying that look good for him. Yeah. Anyway, the point 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: of this is that that's the Raytheon Corporation where it's 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: this discovery was made. And the Raideon Corporation was largely 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: a government funded outfit, so we would call that a 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: government experiment of sorts. It's not the craziest though, Chuck, 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Not not even close. No, you want to talk about 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: some crazy government experiments, maybe five of them today. It 37 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: sounds like a great idea. All right, let's do it, man. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: This is written by Robert Lamb with stuff from the 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: science Lab we should point out. Yeah, I hope we're 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: not stealing this article. Is here gonna do this at 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: some point I didn't even ask him. I'm sure that 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: he wanted to. It's too late now, which it was 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: the first one here, Josh about transplanting heads onto other bodies, 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Yeah, because think about it, Chuck, 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: think about the applications of this. I mean, like, technically, 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: if you don't look at it as a head transplant, 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: you can make the case that this is a full 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: body transplant. Appere's on if you're the chicken or the egg. 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I guess it definitely definitely makes sense a little. We'll 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: find out when the people right in um the but 51 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: this is something that we could definitely use if we 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: could attach the spinal cord. Uh yeah, I cannot. Is 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: that the thing that's holding it back? Well, that's the 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: thing that keeps the result from being a quadriplegic. Oh 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: what they said that applications. Maybe if someone just wants 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to live, they'd rather live as a quadriplegic than die. Yeah, okay, 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: especially if you're already a quadriplegic and you're used to it, 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: but you have oregan failure. Hey, that's pretty random. But 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: I let's think about it. We talked about brail. What 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: if you are blind and handless. I guess you used 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: it that e readers that read things to you out loud, Chuck. 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: This idea of full body transplantation does have its roots 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: in government experiments, specifically as far back as night when 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a US surgeon named Charles Guthrie decided that he wanted 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: to find out if he could put one dog's head 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: on another dog's body. And by god, Chuck Bryant has 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: a picture of it, the two headed dog. Yeah, he 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: actually did this, and it was not replacing one head 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: with another like you said. He he attached a dog's 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: head and underneath the chin of the other dogs, so 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: they were in fact chinna chin, and the other dog 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: was like going right. So you actually did this, and 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to say it worked 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: because the second head could only um lawl about. Yeah. 75 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: They said that there were some um, just normal um 76 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: reflex reactions and and sounds, but not dog type sounds. Yeah. 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: It couldn't fetch the paper or anything. Right. Yeah, so uh, 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: I guess you could make the case though, that that 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: was successful. At the very least, they got a pretty 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: cool picture out of it. Well, blood flowed from one 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: head to the other, through the brain and then back out. 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. It worked in a way. You're 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: gonna post that pick on the blog. So that was 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: the first one. That's nineteen o eight. That's pretty old timey, 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: right indeed. And then we cut to nineteen fifty one 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: when the Soviets are saying, oh, the Americans are doing it, well, 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: well you gotta do it too. There was a lot 88 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: of that going on back then. There really was, UM 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: And actually before that, there was an experiment in the forties, 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: right right, This thing is on YouTube. If you type 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: in experiments in the Revival of Dead organisms, you're going 92 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: to find a nineteen forties UM instructional film esque film 93 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: like that UM that shows people killing dogs and reviving 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: them and apparently, well it's not very graphic. It's more like, here, 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: have some cyanide dog, and then they bring the dog back. UM. 96 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Also supposedly, if you can just barely see it, that 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: it's a dog's head that's moving and like responding and everything, 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: but it's being kept alive externally through like an artificial 99 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: heart and lungs, pumping blood into the brain and back 100 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: out for circulation. I don't need to see that. They 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: don't show a good shot of it, so it's possible 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: it's a trick. But I was reading a post on 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: it that showed that this stuff was real. They actually 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: did kill this dog and revive. It was very scientific. 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: It wasn't a joke or a hoax. Um, so we 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: have been able to was that Vladimir was that someone else? 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: I think it was Vladimir because it was the Soviets. 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: He was a sick puppy. He was, yes, And speaking 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: of puppy, he did the same dog thing where he 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: would He transplanted twenty puppy heads with head, shoulders, lungs, 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: four limbs, and an esophagus that emptied outside of the dog, 112 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: transplanted them onto other dogs, and some of them live. 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: One lived as long as twenty nine days, and they 114 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: actually uh, there's some log notes here. Nine am Donor's 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: head eagerly drank water or milk and tugged as if 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: trying to separate itself from the recipient's body. And one 117 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: of them bit one of the staff members, which was 118 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: my favorite part. And one of them bit the other 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: dog on the ear, and the dog tried to shake 120 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: it off, so they were actual dog things happening. Yeah, 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: that's pretty puppy esque. Yeah, and awful, this six sickens. 122 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I didn't eve want to talk about this really sick, yeah, 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: really dead on the other dolphins. It's like the cutest 124 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: horrific experiment ever. The only way it could be cuter 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: is if they transplanted unicorn heads. There were pictures of 126 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: this by that I couldn't even go there, well, chuck. 127 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: This horrible type of experimentation culminated in nineteen seventy when 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: an American nerves surgeon named Robert J. White transplanted the 129 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: living head of one monkey onto the headless body of another, 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: and it worked, and he was almost bitten by the monkey. 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: That's how they considered as a success. Apparently everybody in 132 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: the lab cheered when the monkey tried to bite the guy. 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: And then after a week they put it down. So 134 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: good for these crazy, crazy people. And meanwhile, um, of 135 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: course the Soviets and the Americans were shooting chimps into space. 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna return again, and you know they're up there 137 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: still little chip bodies or bounds probably at this point 138 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: in some in space capsules. Well, you have to wonder, 139 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of process of physics called degradation 140 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: does a monkey undergo after death in space? I don't know, 141 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Answer me, I don't know. All right, let's move on, 142 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: chuck to acoustic kitty. Yeah there animal abuse, Well it 143 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: actually is. And um this was courtesy once again of 144 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: the Cold War, the US and Soviet superpowers battling each 145 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: other for position, and the c i A spent maybe 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: as much as twenty million, at least ten millions. Yeah, 147 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: so let's just settle in fifteen and five years and 148 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: five years to implant uh listening devices into a cat, 149 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: complete with battery and an antenna in the tail. Little kitty, 150 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Acoustic kitty is what they called it, and it was 151 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: a single cat. They were they were. They alternately surgically 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: outfitted it with UM eavesdropping devices and tried to train 153 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: it because think about it, the presence of a cat 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: is not the most you know, cats wander into places, 155 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: they kind of go wherever they want, so it makes 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: kind of it makes sense. The logic is there to 157 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: an extent. But apparently the cat was just a little 158 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: too willful for this. Um. They figured out that it 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: went off and just kind of left whenever it got hungry, 160 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: so they tried to um surgically manipulate um it's it's 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: sense of hunger so it wouldn't get hungry as often. 162 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: And then finally chuck it threw itself under a cab. 163 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Well you know why why it was It was the 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Kitty Acoustic Kitties first test mission. They they sent the 165 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: little kitty on its first eavesdropping mission to eaves drop 166 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: on these two Russian men in a park, really in 167 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: a public park, and so they dropped the cat off 168 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: and then that's when the cat ran from the cab 169 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: and got killed, which is not funny at all. It's 170 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: been to watch a cat get hit by a car, 171 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: but imagine a ten million dollar cat that you spent 172 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: five years training get hit by a car and its 173 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: first mission. That's the part that I think was funny. 174 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: It was the egg on the face of the US government, 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: and there was egga plenty, and they kept it under 176 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: wraps until two thousand one when that stuff was declassified 177 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: but still partially censored. I read part of it. It's 178 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, all the fun words are blanked over right, 179 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, like who was doing it? Actually, there was 180 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: one part left in their CIA officer Victor Marcetti. He 181 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: addressed the hunger thing. He said, they put in a 182 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: wire to thwart the hunger. I don't even know what 183 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: that means. Yeah, I don't. I read that as well, 184 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know how you would do that, I mean, 185 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: keeping grilling out. I have no idea. Probably so also 186 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: awful because it involves animals, Chuck, Josh, have you ever 187 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: heard of zero point energy? I have had you before today. No, 188 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't either. What is that, Josh? So from what 189 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I can gather, it's a it's a something that comes 190 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: out of quantum mechanics. It's not supposed to happen under 191 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: classical physics, but in quantum physics it does apparently innate 192 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: energy that a particle has, even after all other external 193 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: energies are removed right saying in a vacuum um. So 194 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: they figured out that this means that particles have innate energy. 195 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: But one of the um I guess more surprising aspects 196 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: of reducing a particle to zero point energy is that 197 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: they kind of come in and out of existence randomly, 198 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: which is not supposed to happen, but apparently this is. 199 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: It is especially susceptible to it when you completely remove gravity. Right, 200 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: And this pursuit, the pursuit of figuring out how to 201 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: use zero gravity machines to wink things in and out 202 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: of existence was supposedly a Nazi experiment, huh. Right, And 203 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: the Nazis were famous for many many odd, unproven, unsubstantiated 204 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: experiments that they may or may not have conducted. Yeah, 205 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: this one was real. The Nazi Bell, that's what they 206 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: called it. Yeah, that's what Dr Cook called it. Yeah. 207 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: And Dr Cook is Nick Cook, right, the Jane's Defense 208 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Weekly editor who kind of went off the deep end. 209 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: I wrote a book review on Salon of his book, 210 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: and it's you know, he's he's a very very respected journalist. Um, 211 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: but he really got into conspiratorial world with this one. Yeah. 212 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: He wrote the book The Hunt for Zero Point, where 213 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: he broke it all down basically and alleged that this 214 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: all happened. And he's not some crackpot, or he wasn't 215 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: at the time, right, No, So he was, he was, 216 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, a respected, respected dude. What he believes is 217 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: that an s S officer in charge of the V 218 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: two rocket program, which eventually got the U S to 219 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: the Moon, because don't forget we under operation or Project 220 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: paper Clip, we UM drafted tons of Nazi scientists, including 221 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: Werner von Brown who got us to the Moon. Yeah. Yeah, 222 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: and uh, apparently the guy who was running the V 223 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: two rocket program UM traded this information about zero gravity 224 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: or zero point energy to the US. And uh, Cook's 225 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: hole point is that some guy comes up with this 226 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: real method of using an anti gravity machine, uh for 227 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: military application, and he, I guess came up with a 228 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: file from UM someone in the Defense department saying there's 229 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: no real scientific or there's no military application here. So 230 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: Cook's premise was there. Totally was, and they wouldn't have 231 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: said that if they didn't already know how to do it, 232 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: of course, So he was saying that we knew how 233 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: to do that, and that the whole Foo fighter phenomenon, 234 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: UFOs sightings, all that is evidence of us having figured 235 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: out zero point gravity? How about that? And I did 236 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: a little extra digging around and I found out there's 237 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: this guy named Tim tim Bentura and he runs something 238 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: called American Anti Gravity and he claims this is five 239 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: years ago. And as usual, when you when you can't 240 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: find follow up info, it's usually not a good sign. 241 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: But he claims five years ago that a fellow named 242 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,359 Speaker 1: John Dearing of s A r A, the Scientific Applications 243 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: and Research Associates, who actually have a lot of government contracts, 244 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: are not crack pops either. They supposedly replicated key elements 245 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: of the Nazi bell technology anti gravity propulsion, and they 246 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: supposedly recreated this like five years ago, and they were 247 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: looking for funding and uh, we're too secretive to get 248 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: the funding that they needed, and it's it was kind 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: of up in the air. Last I checked from from 250 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: what I understand, and I don't know if it's necessarily 251 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: zero point gravity, but using quantum mechanics, people have figured 252 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: out how to get discs to levitate. So I mean, 253 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: it's not without it's not outside of the realm possibility. 254 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: He's got stuff on the YouTube, does he? Yeah? But 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: so does David Blaine. He's a big phony. What No, Josh, 256 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't levitate. It's a trick. What let's talk about sex, 257 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: baby in space? Yeah, sex in space. They have researched 258 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: this um behind closed doors, obviously, although NASA says that 259 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: they've never done such a thing, but clearly they have 260 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: because they want to colonize the Moon in space one day, 261 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and you know you gotta know everything. Remember we talked 262 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: about well the doom state, lunar doomsday ark safe humanity, 263 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: that they were going to have their sexy business up 264 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: there if they had to wait a century. Stephen Hawking said, 265 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: it's essential for human survival. It depends on being able 266 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: to appropriate in space. Okay, in space. I was gonna say, 267 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to be Stephen Hawking to realize that 268 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: you gotta reproduce or else the species dies out right, 269 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: no matter whether we're here in orbit or on the 270 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Moon or on Mars or wherever. Right. So, yes, of 271 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: course NASA would engage in this kind of stuff. Specifically, 272 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: there was a guy named Pierre Kohler. He was a 273 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: French astronomer. Uh. And he wrote a book in two 274 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: thousand called The Last Mission, and he said that four 275 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: years earlier NASA um checked out ten different zero gravity 276 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: um sexual positions on a mission. NASA says no, and 277 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: and Pierre Cohler was like and pretty, yeah, you're on Earth. 278 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you some pictures later. Uh. And obviously, like 279 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: everything else's, Soviets have done the same with her cosmonauts supposedly, uh, cosmonauts. 280 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: No the uh what the research into sex with the 281 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: type of sexual positions? Oh, I don't know. Human docking procedures. 282 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Well that's what Robert called it. I think he put 283 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: it in quotes. I thought that Many is just making 284 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a ride joke. We'll have to ask him. Yeah, but 285 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: I love that human docking procedure. Uh. Russia Russian cosmonaut 286 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Valentia Valentina Tereshkova got pregnant nineteen seventy four by another cosmonaut, 287 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: So there were some that said this was probably a 288 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: maybe not done in space, but done just to see, 289 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: like set up to see what would happen, like has 290 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: his sperm been affected, has her uterus been affected? Whatever? 291 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: But it all turned out fine. Their baby was completely normal, right, 292 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: So that's a good sign. And some wonder if possibly 293 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: that union was in a science experiment in and of 294 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: itself just to find out. Um. But yeah, we have 295 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: such a little grasp on what the effects of zero 296 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: gravity have on the human body exactly that I mean, 297 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: it's a worthwhile look, it could be a sperm killer, 298 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: who knows, it could do all sorts of crazy stuff 299 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: like remember the uh Sarcopenia episode where the neurons, the 300 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: type of neurons that die off and are replaced or 301 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: taken over by the other type of neurons happens the 302 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: opposite the astronauts who have been in zero gram and 303 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: it does here on Earth. Who would expect that? Sure, 304 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: so you got it tested out. Have you heard of 305 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: the two suit? No, it's a number two suit. This 306 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why it was invented by an actress 307 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and poet, but it was. Her name is Vana Bonta, 308 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: and she invented the suit that basically keeps two people attached. 309 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: You can put two suits together, if you know what 310 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, to make one suit, and there's zippers and 311 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: there's velcro, and there's openings and there's places to go 312 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: cool within this suit, and each one has this sigrette 313 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: tucked into like exactly the arm. And the idea is 314 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: to stabilize human proximity so you can stay attached without 315 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: much effort, so you can save your effort for coitus. 316 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Are they I don't know if you can buy them, 317 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know if the government said, hey and 318 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: give me some of those two suits, But I mean 319 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: it sounds like they gave us tang. Yeah exactly. So 320 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: let's get get the two suits out there, and let's 321 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: get to the last one, shall we, Buddy the Psychic 322 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Cold War? Yeah, did you see Men Who Stic Goats? 323 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I love that movie. I didn't see it. I loved it. 324 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: It got like a forty seven percent pretty much across 325 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: the board, like half and half. It was a good movie. 326 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Was it based on this or was it just fanciful 327 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: goings on of George Clooney? No, there was your I'm 328 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: writing a blog post on this today. There really was 329 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: a programs that this thing was kind of based on. 330 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: The characters were based on real life people. Um. Yeah, 331 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: I'll show it to you. So we're talking about his 332 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: psychic spies, right, Yeah, one, they're they're both the Soviets 333 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and the Americans were engaged in paranormal research. Um. This 334 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: the Soviets since the twenties, um, and then the US 335 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: and the forties or fifties was like, oh, we better 336 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: catch up with this, and never did. They're reading our minds, 337 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: so we need to read their minds exactly. Um. And 338 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: there's a ton of applications for this. For the military lecture, 339 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: for example, if you're manning a submarine and you can't surface, 340 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: why don't you just send whatever information you need using 341 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: your mind and the mind of somebody else, or why 342 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I get out of bed. Yeah, that's what I would 343 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: do if it's a great one to just beat my 344 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: messages everywhere. UM a man machine interface where we could 345 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: UM basically psychically link ourselves to a computer to interact 346 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: with it, uploaded download data. So does this stuff work though, Josh, 347 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it real? It's real that they 348 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: did the research. They definitely did do the research, and 349 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three, the Rain Corporation was asked to 350 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: create a brief study on who was doing better at it, 351 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: and the Rain Corporation said the Soviets big time. The 352 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: Soviets were much more UM investigatory with the biological, the 353 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: physiological aspects of this the basis of it, whereas with 354 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: Americans it was UM psychology. All psychological based UM theory 355 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: and practice were kept separate with America. In in UM 356 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: the Soviet study, they came up with theories and then 357 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: tested them like it was really scientific. So if anybody 358 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: was going to get anywhere with it, the Rancorporation concluded 359 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: that it was definitely going to be the Soviets. Well, 360 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: good for the riskies. Yeah, they they still are. Yeah, 361 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: and you know we had Operation or Project Stargate going 362 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: until n so that was it. Well that's remote viewing basically. 363 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: And at one point, Operation Stargate had twenty two active 364 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: military and or private remote viewers on staff. That's pretty cool. 365 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I wonder how much that pays remote viewing a bit. 366 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: It pays pretty good. Especially, I'll bet you can pretty 367 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: much demand whatever salary you want. It's like, oh yeah, 368 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: we'll go higher somebody else. Boy got downother home depot. 369 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Those guys hanging up front, see if they can remote 370 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: view for you. Well that's about it for crazy government experiments. 371 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I think there's probably a ton more on the site though. 372 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: You know obviously the c i A experimented with LSD. Buddy. Yeah, 373 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: well that's number one on our list. That's why I 374 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: got a whole podcast that one. Um. All you have 375 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: to do is type maybe government and experiments in the 376 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: handy search bar at how stuff works dot com, and 377 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: that leads us to listener mail. Josh got a couple 378 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: of quick ones today. Okay, this one is from Sasha 379 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: a k a. Sparky and Sasha Sparky says a recent 380 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: podcast mentioned pika and that's when you eat things that 381 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: aren't food, and it reminded me of my own five 382 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: year old cravings. As a young girl, I had an 383 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: insatiable craving from match heads. Huh. Yeah, sulfur huh. I 384 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: guess so I would bite down on the matches and 385 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: scrape off the heads and eat them. And I kept 386 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: a secret stash of Pilford matches under my pillow. I 387 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: just think remember the salty sulfurus flavor and chalky texture. 388 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyone of my family caught on, and 389 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I apparently outgrew it eventually. I'm not sure if this 390 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: is a unique pike of craving or not. I just 391 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: thought i'd share it from Sasha Sparky a k a. 392 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: The match eater. Maybe that's why she's sparky. Either that 393 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: or her love of sulfur just developed into a love 394 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: of arson. And this one is from Tony and you're 395 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: gonna like this one. Don't know if you actually read this? 396 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Uh one? Am Tony Rhotas. He's a business director for 397 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Gamma Vacuum, and he says guys, just thought you might 398 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: like to know that I am sending an email from 399 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: a hotel in Geneva, Switzerland, and have a couple of 400 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: meetings tomorrow. It's cern awesome trying to sell them our 401 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: vacuum pumps. Basically, the large had drink a lighter. Guys. 402 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: He's a traveling vacuum salesman and he just said he 403 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: wanted to know that one of he has a traveling 404 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: vacuum salman. He said, he just wanted to let us 405 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: know that one of the stuff you should know, Army 406 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: foot soldiers is on the premises conducting business. Good for him, 407 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Thank you tone me, and then he sent back a 408 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: follow up email after emailed him and said that he 409 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: wants Jerry to say hi, and she refuses, but he 410 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: requests it is it against religion? I would respect that, 411 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: but out of my own self interest and not to 412 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: look like a jackass. I'm not sure what that means. 413 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: And uh, that's pretty much it. Maybe a horse whinny 414 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: a sound effect. Just to know that she's there, is 415 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: what he says. Jerry's going with the against her religion thing. 416 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: It looks like okay, se remains mute. That coupled with 417 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: a good horse whinny will get your places. Nay? Is 418 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: that a good horse whinny? Yes, and it's actually amish 419 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: for no. Are there questions that should not be asked, 420 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: experiments that should not be performed, doors that should remain 421 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: forever closed. Sometimes science goes too far. Join me for 422 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: this new series that explodes real life stories of the 423 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: dark side of science. Dog Matters Twisted but True Wednesday's 424 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: attend on Science Wow. If you have ever seen the 425 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: movie The Thing with Two Heads and want to tell 426 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: us what you thought about it, you just go ahead 427 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: and send that in an email. Um. Also, if you're 428 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: going Toscern, we definitely want to hear about that as well. 429 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: You can email with that stuff podcast at how stuff 430 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: works dot com For more on this and thousands of 431 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: other topics. Is it how stuff works dot com. Want 432 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: more how stuff works, check out our blogs on the house. 433 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: Stuff works dot com home page. Brought to you by 434 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. It's ready, are you