Speaker 1: Also media.
Speaker 2: What hasn't slept in days? My host of this podcast,
Speaker 2: It's Behind the Bastards, a podcast hosted by a man
Speaker 2: who is just an absolute wreck of a human being.
Speaker 2: And as as we always do whenever I'm a wreck
Speaker 2: of a human being, We're doing a book episode. Everybody,
Speaker 2: you know, we actually don't do these all that offen
Speaker 2: anymore because for a long time, I couldn't find any
Speaker 2: good books for us to do. It's harder than you
Speaker 2: would expect, but the audience loves a books episode. It
Speaker 2: lets us get by with a little bit less research
Speaker 2: one week and we don't have to do a rerun,
Speaker 2: so it keeps the new content flowing. And I know
Speaker 2: all you you maniacs love that. But I finally found
Speaker 2: a fresh you know, like in the movie Fury Road,
Speaker 2: how a Morton Joe lives in that citadel where there's
Speaker 2: all that water, you know, inside the big Rock. I
Speaker 2: found the book equivalent of that, and to pour it,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna splash it all over our guests today, Garrison, Davis, Garrison,
Speaker 2: how are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm tired, but hanging in there.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, this is the day after both the union
Speaker 2: negotiated its contract and Donald Trump got convicted of thirty
Speaker 2: four felonys. It was a crazy day tonight for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. It was a crazy day in there.
Speaker 4: I also got to take some of our co workers
Speaker 4: to waffle House for the first time, so it was
Speaker 4: really just a whole bunch of w's as they say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually now for the first time, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump can truly have the waffle house experience, which is
Speaker 2: eating at a waffle house as a convicted All right, Garrison,
Speaker 2: you're ready to warm this? Open the fuck up?
Speaker 3: I always am.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what.
Speaker 1: This is behind the master?
Speaker 3: This is the show that we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a book episode, and I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: you what book it's about. But but there's a lot
Speaker 2: of setup that we need for this guys. So you know, Garrison,
Speaker 2: being a victim of state repression is a terrible thing,
Speaker 2: you know, having the force really you don't say, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: very frightening, having the force of a nation's like legal
Speaker 2: system and law enforcement arms brought down on your head
Speaker 2: just for say, speaking your mind or you know, lifting
Speaker 2: your voice in protest.
Speaker 3: Or thirty four counts of financial fraught.
Speaker 2: It's it sucks actually being oppressed. But pretending to be
Speaker 2: a victim of censorship is great because you get all
Speaker 2: of the victim the benefits of being a victim. You
Speaker 2: get that sympathy, you get to feel like a hero.
Speaker 2: You have to make like grand speeches about how you
Speaker 2: won't be silenced, but you don't actually have to face
Speaker 2: any consequences for any of your shitty behavior. Right and
Speaker 2: in the in the long list of fake victims in
Speaker 2: this country, I think probably the fakest and one of
Speaker 2: my favorite is a guy named David Thomas Roberts. Now,
Speaker 2: David wrote a book back in twenty twelve called Patriots
Speaker 2: of Treason. And the plot of this book, this is
Speaker 2: not the book we're covering this week, Okay, okay, but
Speaker 2: you need to hear about it to get to that book.
Speaker 2: The plot of this book is that an unhinged Barack
Speaker 2: Obama stand in president. Many such cases, Yeah, it's one
Speaker 2: of those. It's like one of those right wing this
Speaker 2: is what Obama's right about to do books because he
Speaker 2: publishes it right before he gets reelected.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I think I think we've seen
Speaker 1: this film before. Got It, Got It.
Speaker 2: It's almost the Ben Shapiro story. His his not Barack
Speaker 2: Obama stand in is Tyrell Johnson and is also a
Speaker 2: black president. Don't like that, No, it's it's it's really
Speaker 2: not great. Now. The plot of the book is that
Speaker 2: an Iranian American student like, because Tyrell Johnson is unpopular,
Speaker 2: he attacks Iran. That's actually that's actually suggested. It's like,
Speaker 2: this is what the evil Democrat will do, is he's
Speaker 2: not popular, and so he bombs Iran. And this Iranian
Speaker 2: American student, who is both angry that his sister died
Speaker 2: in the attack and also loves the founding fathers of
Speaker 2: the United States and the Tea Party, carries out an
Speaker 2: assassination attempt against Evil Obama, and because they find some
Speaker 2: like Tea Party literature in his house, they use it
Speaker 2: as an excuse to arrest conservatives in mass It's very funny.
Speaker 3: Very very scary.
Speaker 2: I love conservative alternate histories that are exactly the opposite
Speaker 2: of what happened in real life. My favorite detail about
Speaker 2: the book, which I got from a Texas Monthly review
Speaker 2: of it, is that the fake president in the book,
Speaker 2: Tyrell Johnson, was originally just named Barack Obama, and they
Speaker 2: did a find in replace and you can tell this
Speaker 2: because each chapter starts with an epigraph, and one of
Speaker 2: them is a real quote from Rick Perry about Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: But in the Perry quote in the book, Obama's name
Speaker 2: is replaced with President Johnson.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny of Obama.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's good stuff. It's good stuff. It's a perfect snapshot
Speaker 2: of the kind of mania among conservatives that existed around
Speaker 2: Obama in this period, This fear that like one of
Speaker 2: like a pretty milk toast liberal president was going to
Speaker 2: become a dictator and massacre everybody to the right of
Speaker 2: I don't know, fucking John McCain. Yeah, very very funny. Now,
Speaker 2: the reality is that in two thousand and nine, a
Speaker 2: homeland security analyst named Darryl Johnson wrote a report titled
Speaker 2: right Wing Extremism about the danger of groups like the
Speaker 2: Oathkeepers and other militias, and once the paper went out
Speaker 2: got out, it went viral among people like Alex Jones
Speaker 2: and also more mainstream right wing commentators who complained they
Speaker 2: were being persecuted. Johnson was forced out of his job
Speaker 2: and the report was retracted by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano
Speaker 2: again the exact opposite of the right wing fiction. Actually
Speaker 2: absolutely yeah, like a perfect opposite. So if the plot
Speaker 2: of this book I've described sounds like the result of
Speaker 2: chat GPT gobbling up like one hundred hours of Fox
Speaker 2: News and spitting out a novel, that is what Roberts
Speaker 2: has laid out as his creative process. He described how
Speaker 2: he gets his ideas this way in an interview with
Speaker 2: Blaze Media. I watch Fox News, get mad, can't sleep.
Speaker 2: Then I turned the TV off and wrote my first book,
Speaker 2: which is Therapy. So we're said it.
Speaker 4: We're like in so many layers of like fiction. It's
Speaker 4: like fiction based on fiction, based on.
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, no, the guys in the fucking Plato's cave
Speaker 2: are writing stories about the shadows, the shadows.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: The publisher that he uses for this is like a
Speaker 2: vanity press, like one of those places where you pay
Speaker 2: at least some of what it costs to get your
Speaker 2: book published. And the fact that he had no trouble
Speaker 2: getting published through this press or starting his own vanity press,
Speaker 2: and the fact that he gets interviewed by like Texas
Speaker 2: Monthly as well as the Blaze does not seem to
Speaker 2: have done anything to convince this guy that he is not,
Speaker 2: in fact oppressed. And he said to Texas Monthly, for
Speaker 2: a long time, the left was the champion of free speech.
Speaker 2: Look at the McCarthy era and the protesters in the
Speaker 2: sixties and the Vietnam era. But today I think it's
Speaker 2: mostly the conservative voices that are silenced now totally. The
Speaker 2: specific act of persecution he claims to have endured is
Speaker 2: that his vanity publisher AKA Publishing, didn't display his book
Speaker 2: prominently at a twenty twelve event. And again, this is
Speaker 2: a vanity, this is not a real publisher twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: He's early.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's really he's really uh honest on the
Speaker 4: custom of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's going to because of this horrible, the
Speaker 2: horrible cruelty of not being as prominently featured as he
Speaker 2: thinks he should have been at one of their events,
Speaker 2: he founds his own publishing company, Defiance Press. And I
Speaker 2: think these guys are going to be the host of
Speaker 2: a lot of our future book episodes.
Speaker 4: Garrison out there, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay clean, uh huh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want. I'm sure, I'm sure, if I look into
Speaker 4: into Defiance Press, I'll get too excited, So I'll keep
Speaker 4: myself in the dark so that it'll be more more
Speaker 4: interesting when I get surprised.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you might. We'll see how surprised you. There's
Speaker 2: at least one surprising title in here. But it is
Speaker 2: a vanity press. You have to pay some of the costs.
Speaker 2: They call it hybrid publishing, which is again just not
Speaker 2: a real publisher, you know, like it's it's it's a
Speaker 2: vanity press.
Speaker 4: If it's a one step above like Amazon, like yeah,
Speaker 4: Kindle Publishing or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, they just mad mend the title.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Now they're top titles, like the book texts
Speaker 2: it make the case for like that makes the case
Speaker 2: for Texas secession, and it's sold about ten thousand copies,
Speaker 2: which is like not bad for a real book, but
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's kind of the best any of
Speaker 2: their things do. Most of their products are non fiction,
Speaker 2: but there are books well. Texas Monthly describes it as
Speaker 2: like books that stretch that definition, with titles like Corona Fascism,
Speaker 2: Trump in the Resurrection of America, uh and hunt It,
Speaker 2: Kill It and Drag It Home, which is apparently a
Speaker 2: self help book, So that that all sounds like a
Speaker 2: lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Are they talking about like dating or like going like
Speaker 4: hunting for food?
Speaker 2: I think they're talking about how hunting for food is
Speaker 2: like a metaphor for how you should handle everything in life.
Speaker 3: Totally, that seems it seems healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, in relationships, just like in hunting,
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to smother your body in deer urine
Speaker 2: so that you smell like deer pits.
Speaker 3: I have I have been hearing this, Actually I have
Speaker 3: been here. Yeah, I am, I am.
Speaker 4: I'm currently soaking a pack of In's in a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of the dear plus right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. You'll like this. They have a
Speaker 2: young adult book called Looks Like a Cheetah to me,
Speaker 2: that's apparently an anti trans fairy tale. So of course
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that one's great.
Speaker 4: As soon as you said that, like, okay, I can
Speaker 4: see what they're is there, like how how can we
Speaker 4: do attack helicopter but legally distinct?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that article in Texas Monthly on Defiance Press
Speaker 2: included so many different book summaries that I felt were
Speaker 2: perfect possible subjects for Behind the Bastard's Book. Episodes, and
Speaker 2: I want to read you a quote about one of
Speaker 2: them that we're not covering this week, but we may
Speaker 2: in the future, probably later in the year. From Texas Monthly,
Speaker 2: Chadwick Bicknell's twenty twenty two novella and American Carol reimagines
Speaker 2: Ebeneezer Scrooge as Alex Slid Dumas, a militant gay lefty
Speaker 2: who has sworn off attending a Fourth of July party
Speaker 2: with his relatives because many of them support a Trumpian president.
Speaker 2: After visits from George Washington, the ghost of America's passed,
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe, the ghost of bizarrely America's present and death,
Speaker 2: which apparently is what the new future the near future
Speaker 2: holds for watch us if we don't watch out, l
Speaker 2: Dumas realizes the right is more tolerant than the left,
Speaker 2: recognizes the Trumpish commander in chief has actually made America
Speaker 2: great again and is spiritually reborn as a docile, gay Republican.
Speaker 3: That sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have to get into that one.
Speaker 4: That sounds that could be my top ten list of
Speaker 4: this year. To be honest, that that is a steppenwolf
Speaker 4: has been pretty good.
Speaker 2: Step Stepenwolf's a fine novel. But but uh, hesse could
Speaker 2: never Alex ld Dumas's.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's stunning.
Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of hideous books these people
Speaker 2: will put out, But the one we're going to actually
Speaker 2: do in this episode or maybe episodes, we'll see how
Speaker 2: it goes is a little title named Blue Dawn, and
Speaker 2: the author, Blaine Lee Pardout, is best known for, according
Speaker 2: to his wiki, his Battle Tech and mech Warrior novels. Now,
Speaker 2: there's maybe some easy, cheap jokes I can make about it,
Speaker 2: but from from my reading of his books, he's actually
Speaker 2: kind of competent technically as a right, he's not Okay Shapiro,
Speaker 2: he knows like I wouldn't call him a good I
Speaker 2: don't think his book is good, but like he his
Speaker 2: sentences are structured well, and his like chapters. He understands
Speaker 2: like the flow that a book is supposed to have,
Speaker 2: as opposed to like a Ben Shapiro, who like does
Speaker 2: does not understand how you are actually supposed to like
Speaker 2: structure things happening in a chapter. You know, because he's
Speaker 2: he's a he's a workmanlike writer, right, he's like a
Speaker 2: guy who's got to put out genre fiction for a living.
Speaker 2: He also seems to have had some kind of real
Speaker 2: career as a military historian, so I was interested, you know.
Speaker 2: In Blue Dawn, part of me was like, if this
Speaker 2: is just going to be kind of like slightly right wing,
Speaker 2: mediocre fiction, this might not work for us because there
Speaker 2: won't be a much to make fun of. And I
Speaker 2: was very wrong, because Garrison, this is a right winger
Speaker 2: writing a novel about like what if all of our
Speaker 2: anarchist dreams came true? Like he is. He is like
Speaker 2: envisioning an alter it modern day, if like the Antifa
Speaker 2: from Fox News was real. And it's fascinating to see
Speaker 2: what he thinks was just about to happen in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: because there's a there's a lot of courage that you
Speaker 2: have to have to write near future speculative science fiction rightly,
Speaker 2: like if it's really close. And he publishes this in
Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty one, and it opens with a
Speaker 2: fictionalized version of a coup in twenty twenty, but it's
Speaker 2: a completely different coup than the one that we got.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Yeah, writing something that gets that is
Speaker 4: like talking about like twenty twenty six is oddly like
Speaker 4: harder than going to like twenty fifty two.
Speaker 2: Yes, you have a lot more like runway, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't give himself any runway. So this comes out months
Speaker 2: after an actual coup attempted by his people, and he's
Speaker 2: writing like. The whole book opens with like the Antifa
Speaker 2: coup that takes the White House and the Capitol building.
Speaker 3: God, that'd be so cool, fascinating.
Speaker 2: I'm going to read first. I'm going to read you
Speaker 2: a summary of the book that I got on the
Speaker 2: Defiance Press website, and then we'll get into the actual
Speaker 2: text itself.
Speaker 3: Sounds good.
Speaker 2: Almost five years ago, America as everyone knew it came
Speaker 2: to an abrupt end in a spectacular coudetta. It was
Speaker 2: called the Liberation by those progressives and radicals that screamed
Speaker 2: for its outcome, the fall by its victims whose freedoms
Speaker 2: were trampled. The White House and Capital were overrun by anarchists,
Speaker 2: and the leaders of the once proud nation were either
Speaker 2: imprisoned or sent to social quarantine camps. The president was
Speaker 2: arrested and eventually died in prison. Or so everyone was
Speaker 2: led to believe, America was rebooted. In a new progressive,
Speaker 2: socialist image. New America, the United States of old, was gone,
Speaker 2: its history erased and rewritten, its icons destroyed. By the
Speaker 2: time people tried to organize resistance, it was too late.
Speaker 1: How is New America spelled one word or two words?
Speaker 2: It's one word, just New America, and everyone calls it
Speaker 2: that everyone called without being like that's the stupidest. It's
Speaker 2: been five years, Like you're not kidding everyone, Like everyone
Speaker 2: buys into this entirely new Orwellian language, which like works
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four because it's been generations since the
Speaker 2: government got in place. They're talking like that and it's
Speaker 2: literally been five years.
Speaker 4: I don't think New America is going to catch on.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be real, I don't.
Speaker 5: I think that Gavin Newsom should use that as his
Speaker 5: campaign slogan and ruin it for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank.
Speaker 3: You, give my da.
Speaker 6: So he's like, oh yeah, he's like cool, he's like
Speaker 6: putting more hair jehl in his hair. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: news New America, that's.
Speaker 2: The one they do. But Gavin newsoen allied with the
Speaker 2: fucking anarchists is exactly like the level of politics that
Speaker 2: this book is capable of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am, I am, I am ready to hear.
Speaker 4: Like, okay, what is his version of like the utopian
Speaker 4: dystopia is absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well, Garrison will take that little journey together into New America.
Speaker 2: But first, first take a journey into the products and
Speaker 2: services that support this podcast.
Speaker 1: And it's not Gavin Newsom's hair sheel.
Speaker 2: We don't know that, we don't know what brand he uses.
Speaker 2: Ah wow, Sophie, I'm back and I am just feeling.
Speaker 2: I put I put a solid pound and a half
Speaker 2: of that Gavin Newsom hair jel, which, by the way, folks,
Speaker 2: my hair now it's just horse seamen, you know. But
Speaker 2: it works incredibly Sorry, Sophie, already committed to making that
Speaker 2: bit started talking.
Speaker 1: It's okay, I laid it up for you.
Speaker 3: You got it, You got it.
Speaker 4: You gotta move past that l a hairjail, Sophie, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you gotta.
Speaker 2: They get it all from that cowboy ranch in the
Speaker 2: middle of the city. So it starts with a character
Speaker 2: Jack Desmond, a secret service assistant shave. Yeah, it's pretty again.
Speaker 2: He's like a workmanlike genre rider, perfectly fine protag in
Speaker 2: his name. He's a secret serviceman. He's at the White
Speaker 2: House as it's under siege. And this entire White House
Speaker 2: siege garrison is based on some clips this guy watched
Speaker 2: of Portland from Andy No's social media feed. It's very clear,
Speaker 2: but it starts with him talking about like how the
Speaker 2: nation has been collapsing since the twenty twenty election, and
Speaker 2: this is clearly Trump is the president and the election
Speaker 2: has just happened. Anarchists Cell sewed further division. Their desire
Speaker 2: was that the entire political system be violently taken down.
Speaker 2: Many politicians looked the other way and even funded their efforts,
Speaker 2: hoping it will damage their political opponents in the upcoming elections.
Speaker 2: Little did they realize at the time that they were
Speaker 2: empowering people that were willing to take them down as
Speaker 2: well as their opposition classic democratic politicians funding the anarchists.
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see how much this is going to
Speaker 4: differ from Alex Garland's understanding of American politics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am kind of curious about that as well,
Speaker 2: although I think this one in My understanding in that
Speaker 2: is that like the bad guy president who bombs America
Speaker 2: is the Trumpian stand in, and in this Trump is
Speaker 2: like almost like a helpless child before yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the climax is still like the West Coast
Speaker 4: forces are invading the White House, so like there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in this it's it's I think there's soldiers in
Speaker 2: that at least in this it's just it's literally just
Speaker 2: an anarchist that has fireworks, and of course we'll get
Speaker 2: to it. So here's here's another paragraph from that that
Speaker 2: intro the presidential election became a quagmire of fraud, both
Speaker 2: perceived and real. The lawsuits drew bitterness and only added
Speaker 2: to the insecurity of daily life. The drawn out legal
Speaker 2: process led the protests, which morphed into rioting across the country.
Speaker 2: Brute force was applied to restore law and order, but
Speaker 2: it only generated more resistance and hate. Law and order
Speaker 2: began to dissolve, indecision as to who had really won
Speaker 2: the election. Toll at the American people, months at being
Speaker 2: suppressed by restrictions tied to the virus, made their anger
Speaker 2: transition into undirected violence. And I find it interesting because
Speaker 2: that's like the opposite of where people were by that point,
Speaker 2: Like all that happened. You had an election that was
Speaker 2: deeply controversial, I mean not for good reason, but it was.
Speaker 2: But like there wasn't widespread rioting, and people were mostly
Speaker 2: just exhausted by everything that had happened in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: by the time November rolled around, and we're glad for
Speaker 2: it to be over, very exhausted, very tired also, and
Speaker 2: then Biden dies as soon as like in early winter,
Speaker 2: the self proclaimed president elect, who where lad to believe
Speaker 2: is Biden has a cerebral aneurysm and dies, and then
Speaker 2: the vice not a bad prediction, not a bad prediction.
Speaker 2: And then Kamala Harris gets assassinated by a right wing extremist.
Speaker 2: And so that's how we get a a constitutional crisis,
Speaker 2: and China and Russia leap into the breach to take
Speaker 2: advantage of all this chaos, and they send money to
Speaker 2: the anarchists, which is what makes the revolution possible. I
Speaker 2: don't know how they get it. Are they like are
Speaker 2: they venmoing it to different food not bombs groups? And
Speaker 2: like bail funds? How are they sending all of these
Speaker 2: weapons over what does this actually look like?
Speaker 4: That's really funny, that's really funny. Choice Russia is funneling
Speaker 4: some money to people quote unquote on the left, but
Speaker 4: it's certainly not anarchists.
Speaker 2: No, and it's certainly not like they're they're they're like
Speaker 2: they get mortars. They're attacking the White House with actual
Speaker 2: with actual mortars at some point. But parts of this
Speaker 2: do read like Portland fan fiction. And I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go back to the book now. Secret Service Assistant
Speaker 2: Chief Jack Desmond sit in the hot seat of the
Speaker 2: Services Emergency Response Center, two stories under the White House
Speaker 2: and glared at the screens. The protesters had been getting
Speaker 2: bolder in the last few weeks, a few clamoring over
Speaker 2: the fence in Lafayette Park and then attempting to scale
Speaker 2: the perimeter fence around the White House. Each night. The
Speaker 2: numbers grew each night new tactics were employed. The majority
Speaker 2: of the perpetrators had been apprehended, but there was method
Speaker 2: behind their madness. The increased use of fireworks was part
Speaker 2: of a strategy. Desmond saw a pattern which was a
Speaker 2: part of his job to go beyond the raw data.
Speaker 2: They're testing our response, watching how we react. It spoke
Speaker 2: to him of a level of sophistication. The FBI and
Speaker 2: the DOG were not assigning to the leaders of the protests.
Speaker 2: When the two groups hit the perimeter fence at different times.
Speaker 2: He finally convinced his superiors they were planning something bigger,
Speaker 2: something far worse. They're coordinated, organized, and upping their game.
Speaker 4: It's funny because it is definitely like just Portland panfic,
Speaker 4: but also yeah, wildly underestimating the FBI and the DHS's yeah,
Speaker 4: presumption of like a complexity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they.
Speaker 4: Have some very interesting theories on how these types of
Speaker 4: protests operate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, the reality is that they were like
Speaker 2: obsessed with attempting to find a leadership CADRA behind the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty George Wood protest that.
Speaker 7: Like never exists, yeah, which is like yeah, and uh,
Speaker 7: you know, on the same token, like when there was
Speaker 7: actually a siege at the Capitol Building, they weren't ready
Speaker 7: at all because they had not in any way prepared
Speaker 7: for the one that actually came their way.
Speaker 2: This guy's kind of Fox News brain worms. You can
Speaker 2: you can tell he just kind of mainlined a raw
Speaker 2: diet of andy No during the twenty twenty election. Here's
Speaker 2: here's his description of the White House surveillance system. There
Speaker 2: were cameras everywhere around the White House on microdrones, some
Speaker 2: planted on the fence. Some camouflage is nothing more than
Speaker 2: bolt satellite surveillance. Not to mention the agents that mingled
Speaker 2: with the protesters decked out in all caps Antifa black.
Speaker 2: Every single time he uses the word Antifa, it's in
Speaker 2: all caps, as if Antifa special black. They licensed Bantom
Speaker 2: black from that.
Speaker 4: One guy that would be so cool is really shadow people,
Speaker 4: and it's he talks about how like some of them
Speaker 4: have takeout took out cameras with paintball.
Speaker 2: Guns, which is a real thing that people do. Others
Speaker 2: have strobes to overload the night vision gear, and others
Speaker 2: used signs, large banners, and makeshift shields to conceal their
Speaker 2: nefarious activities.
Speaker 3: Yeah this is just Portland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what are you concealing with a shield? Guys,
Speaker 2: they're concealing that they're trying not to get shot with
Speaker 2: rubber bullets. One of the things I find fascinating and
Speaker 2: kind of enlightening about this is that every time he
Speaker 2: talks about the crowd, he talks about it as if
Speaker 2: it's like a hive intelligence, Like not like it's a
Speaker 2: group of actual people, but like it's it's some sort
Speaker 2: of like alien species, where like the entire organization of
Speaker 2: people has a collective mind. So yeah, here's.
Speaker 3: Isn't like wrong.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it isn't wrong about how fear works. It's it's
Speaker 2: he he is crediting them with like again, you and
Speaker 2: I have been to these kinds of things and seen
Speaker 2: how hard it is to get a group of thousands
Speaker 2: of people to take down one line of fence. Right.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, in very brief moments, you'll see a group of
Speaker 4: like fifty people move as like a fluid cluster and
Speaker 4: do something really cool and then it breaks out and
Speaker 4: to get into like entropy.
Speaker 1: But if they do, they're wearing charcoal black, not into you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably probably didn't have the right color of
Speaker 2: black in Portland.
Speaker 3: Yeerson, honestly that that may be it.
Speaker 5: Just like a charcoal or like a faded or you know, definitely.
Speaker 3: Not would be nice. Actually I agree, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: It's a great color. It's a great color.
Speaker 2: So here's another great line. The rules of engagement for
Speaker 2: a massed assault were known, and he knew people would
Speaker 2: hesitate thoughts of mowing down American protesters on the front
Speaker 2: lawn of the White House was the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that got you hauled up to Capitol Hill He had
Speaker 2: reviewed the rules carefully with the teams at the start
Speaker 2: of his shift. As he watched the screens, he saw
Speaker 2: that the crowd was monitoring his people on the rooftops
Speaker 2: and their assorted purchase. The problem was that the crowd
Speaker 2: was willing to risk it, fueled by hate and organized
Speaker 2: by All Caps, Antifa and other radical groups. They had
Speaker 2: gotten more sophisticated.
Speaker 1: The Antifa All Caps for me baby, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Then we get our actual Portland reference Garrison. The arrest
Speaker 2: of several cells in Portland and New York had resulted
Speaker 2: in bombings and two assassination attempts on department heads, leaving
Speaker 2: one director in the hospital. This was beyond protests. This
Speaker 2: was now war, though the press played the entire thing
Speaker 2: down as minor incidents of violence and otherwise peaceful protests. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: I again, it's this like, they did arrest a lot
Speaker 2: of people that they claimed were like leaders in Portland
Speaker 2: and elsewhere. And you know what didn't happen is any
Speaker 2: directors of federal agencies got murdered.
Speaker 3: No, unless I missed that in the news cycle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they would have hit on that
Speaker 2: pretty hard. Yeah, I did want to at anytime one
Speaker 2: of these guys gives me something to drill in on,
Speaker 2: particularly in the press playing down incidents of violence at
Speaker 2: peaceful protests and stuff. I want to dig into that
Speaker 2: as much as I can, And there's a couple of
Speaker 2: good articles on that by some scholars who have actually
Speaker 2: analyzed the way in which the media tends to cover
Speaker 2: social justice protests and what things they tend to highlight
Speaker 2: in their coverage. One of the first papers I found
Speaker 2: was by Danielle Brown and Summer Harlowe in the Journal
Speaker 2: of Press and Politics titled Protests, Media Coverage and a
Speaker 2: Hierarchy of Social struggle. This is what they write. Scholars
Speaker 2: across disciplines of scrutinized press coverage of collective action, exploring
Speaker 2: the institutional, organizational, and individual influences that shift the quality
Speaker 2: and quantity of coverage. Many different structural, organizational, and institutional
Speaker 2: features of media production and social disruption affect media coverage
Speaker 2: of social movements. However, most scholars have shown that the
Speaker 2: institutional logics of the mainstream media do not favor social movements,
Speaker 2: and only the most appealing or newsworthy features of a
Speaker 2: movement are likely to result in news coverage, and when
Speaker 2: we talk about, like what are the most newsworthy features
Speaker 2: of a movement that's like incidents of violence or anything
Speaker 2: that can be characterized police on fire, Yeah exactly, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the like if that happens, that's the only thing
Speaker 2: that's winding up in a lot of coverage on a protest.
Speaker 4: If a dumpster's on fire on day one, it might
Speaker 4: get something. If dumpter's on fire on day twenty five,
Speaker 4: no one cares.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's become the norm. And Harlowe also wrote
Speaker 2: an article for The Washington Post in twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: where she summarized the data she's collected during years of
Speaker 2: research into how the media covers protests. Quote my own
Speaker 2: research analyzed about fifteen hundred protest related news stories published
Speaker 2: throughout twenty fourteen in mainstream, alternative, partisan, and online news publications.
Speaker 2: Articles about conservative protests, like protests supposed to immigration or
Speaker 2: LGBT rights, or protest supporting Trump and gun rights, are
Speaker 2: less likely to be negatively framed as riots than other
Speaker 2: types of protests. In contrast, Black Lives Matter protests are
Speaker 2: more likely to be framed as riots. New use coverage
Speaker 2: focus is more on violence, property damage, and confrontations with police.
Speaker 2: For example, at twenty seventeen San Antonio Express News article
Speaker 2: about an anti white supremacy protest, which was included in
Speaker 2: another study I did, started with a reference to brawls
Speaker 2: that broke out and the arrest of protesters who swarmed
Speaker 2: the sidewalk hurling insults and chanting. The aim of the
Speaker 2: protest was placed in quotation marks white supremacy, which arguably
Speaker 2: delegitimizes protesters' grievances, and yeah, yeah, pretty normal stuff. She
Speaker 2: surveyed one hundred journalists from Missouri, Virginia, Arizona, and Texas
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and combined those surveys
Speaker 2: with an analysis of nine hundred and thirty two protest
Speaker 2: related stories from newspapers in those states, and found that
Speaker 2: most journalists said that they were neither supportive nor unsupportive
Speaker 2: of protesters generally, and were less supportive of racial justice
Speaker 2: movements than they were of women's rights or immigrants rights,
Speaker 2: which I found interesting.
Speaker 3: That is interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, again, it's the appic of what
Speaker 2: this guy reports, because reality is the opposite of what
Speaker 2: actually happened. But let's return to the fantasy. Of China
Speaker 2: funded Antifa.
Speaker 3: It's a lot more fun.
Speaker 2: So this next line here gives us both collapsible ladders
Speaker 2: as a sinister weapon and gives us our first anti
Speaker 2: mask line. Sir the captain seated in front of him
Speaker 2: spoke up, pointing to the far left monitor. Look, I
Speaker 2: think those are collapsible ladders. Jack saw them too in
Speaker 2: the crowd. They were hard to make out, even with
Speaker 2: night vision that use them before to toss up makeshift barricades.
Speaker 2: But tonight, tonight felt different. Leaning in, he toggled the
Speaker 2: microphone on and tore off the black mask he'd been
Speaker 2: forced to wear since the pandemic began. He couldn't afford
Speaker 2: to have his voice muffled. Not now, this is Rabbit
Speaker 2: to all stations. Southeast corner ladder spotted prepare for breaching attempts.
Speaker 3: I like that. The ladder is hard to spot too.
Speaker 3: It's very good.
Speaker 2: What kind of ladders are they carrying that you can't
Speaker 2: very easily?
Speaker 4: An extendible ladder is like it's like three times.
Speaker 2: Hind of a man. Yeah, yeah, I love this. How
Speaker 2: sinister the ladders are. Yeah, it's it's all beautiful.
Speaker 3: That maskline, he is really proud of that one.
Speaker 2: It's so good. So the protesters, working with military precision,
Speaker 2: penetrate like he gets a call that while they're sieging
Speaker 2: the White House, rioters have already penetrated the Capitol and
Speaker 2: taken the Speaker of the House hostage. So he has
Speaker 2: to order he has to order a condition red because
Speaker 2: protesters are headed for them. Next, the crowd surges forward
Speaker 2: and the cops start shooting. He could not hear the
Speaker 2: gunfire in the erc but he heard it over the speakers.
Speaker 2: Rubber bullets at first sprayed a swath of the rioters,
Speaker 2: but they did not recoil like they had before. Though
Speaker 2: a dozen or more dropped from the kinetic impacts, most
Speaker 2: got right back up and continued the climb. Body armor
Speaker 2: Fucking Amazon and eBay. They would run out of rubber
Speaker 2: bullets soon. Then things would get ugly and bloody. You
Speaker 2: can get body armor on eBay. I wouldn't recommend it,
Speaker 2: but they don't sell it on Amazon anyway. Whatever.
Speaker 3: Maybe they mean like motorcross gear.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like airsoft. I mean airsoft armor is
Speaker 2: fine for rubber bullets. Yeah, I don't think they mean
Speaker 2: like ballistic armor. I think I think I just like padding. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that does make if these guys are all dressed as
Speaker 2: air softers, though, it does make them seem a little
Speaker 2: bit less threatening. Now it's unclear to me because he
Speaker 2: makes a big deal about how they're using fireworks. At
Speaker 2: the start, he starts, there's a line here where like
Speaker 2: they start heals mortars because they start exploding.
Speaker 4: This this is an andy No thing. Andy No calls
Speaker 4: all fireworks mortars like this, Like when they say mortars,
Speaker 4: they don't mean like actual military motors. What they mean
Speaker 4: Fourth of July fireworks.
Speaker 2: In this it's in this garrison. It's both because he
Speaker 2: starts by talking about fireworks and meaning mortars, and then
Speaker 2: he says mortars. And it becomes clear over the course
Speaker 2: of the fight that they are actually shooting real mortars
Speaker 2: at the White House. Presumably the Chinese gave it to them,
Speaker 2: but these are these are Now we are both getting
Speaker 2: like fear mongered of like they're using fireworks to test
Speaker 2: the defenses and now they have real mortars. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that's that's where this goes. We now cut to a
Speaker 2: new character, Charlie spelled just with an I Kazinski, who
Speaker 2: is a lady Secret Service person who works on the
Speaker 2: President's detail, and she busts in the Oval Office. This
Speaker 2: is we presume President Trump. And she's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we got a real problem here. The Antifas are about
Speaker 2: to take the White House. Part of why this is
Speaker 2: very funny to me is that the first thing President
Speaker 2: Trump says is like, I can't leave. What about my family,
Speaker 2: my wife and son? And real President Trump absolutely would
Speaker 2: not be concerned with that in the situation.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it would leave them to die.
Speaker 2: Several shots at the proof glass of the Oval office,
Speaker 2: snap cracking on the armored glass. The President rose as
Speaker 2: another explosion went off outside, throwing tiny bits of grass
Speaker 2: and dirt on the window. He moved to her side
Speaker 2: as two additional agents rushed in flanking him. My family,
Speaker 2: my wife and son. So she promises to get his kids,
Speaker 2: and yeah, there's a Charlie takes him down an elevator.
Speaker 2: We're informed that the elevators in the White House can
Speaker 2: be electrified after use, so they'll kill anyone trying to
Speaker 2: access them. And there's also a gas system to pump
Speaker 2: knockout drugs into the shaft if it were breached. I
Speaker 2: looked into this. I couldn't find any evidence one way
Speaker 2: or the other. Maybe maybe that's true, I hope. So
Speaker 2: so he calls our boy Jack calls the Secretary of
Speaker 2: Defense and tells him to scramble the troops, and the
Speaker 2: troops are under attack too. The military base, Joint Base
Speaker 2: Bowling was just hit by two car bombs and is
Speaker 2: being shelled, and so is Andrew's Air Force Base. So
Speaker 2: the antifas have carried out on the same night overwhelming
Speaker 2: attacks against two military bases, the Capitol and the White House.
Speaker 2: And again, in the most impressive actions you and I saw,
Speaker 2: they were able to tear down a fence after like
Speaker 2: five hours.
Speaker 4: After like two weeks. Yeah, practice, this is. This is
Speaker 4: an unprecedented level of coordination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is I'm really wondering what the signal
Speaker 2: loops are like for these anti Those.
Speaker 3: Signal chats gotta be going crazy.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, we're bombing Joint Air Force Base Santruce. We're
Speaker 2: in the Pentagon, we are on the teams gone, We've
Speaker 2: got the speaker. Oh yeah, it's really funny. So there's
Speaker 2: a moment here where the Secret Service head or sorry,
Speaker 2: where the President tells the Secretary of Defense to send
Speaker 2: the army in to crack down on the protests, and
Speaker 2: the Secretary of Defense won't do He's not willing to
Speaker 2: send American troops in to like fight Americans on American soil.
Speaker 2: And this is again like a thing that happened right
Speaker 2: now in real life. What happened is President Trump asked
Speaker 2: General Millie, his secretary of Defense, can you just shoot
Speaker 2: them in the legs?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And Milly was like, no, I can't have the army
Speaker 2: just go shoot protesters in the lakes. Anyway, I find
Speaker 2: that very funny. But you know, Garrison, what's not funny
Speaker 2: and what won't shoot you in the.
Speaker 3: Legs are lovely advertisers.
Speaker 2: They might shoot you in the legs. If it's the
Speaker 2: Washington State Highway Patrol again, they'll definitely shoot you in
Speaker 2: the legs. Well yeah, yeah, all right, so we'll come back.
Speaker 2: But first, here's some ads, all right, Garrison. So that's
Speaker 2: our cold open, right. The White House is sieged and taken.
Speaker 2: The president is it's kind of unclear what happens to him,
Speaker 2: Like we know from the summary that he's supposed to
Speaker 2: have died in this, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Because he was like taking captured and died in prison.
Speaker 2: We don't see him die in this right we some
Speaker 2: you know, as a spoiler, he's not actually dead, garrissons.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is alive and living in secret five years
Speaker 2: so he's going to lead some like resistance for us hopefully.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, Garrison, you've you've predicted exactly where this book is going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 2: So chapter one, it opens with a character named Andy Forrest,
Speaker 2: and Andy is in a cancer ward at a hospital
Speaker 2: watching his dad die. It's it's National Hospital one fourteen
Speaker 2: because all of the hospitals were in a sinister manner nationalized.
Speaker 3: They're communist hospitals now.
Speaker 2: They're communist hospitals now. Yeah, and his father is classified
Speaker 2: as non essential, non contributing, so there's debate about whether
Speaker 2: or not his recovery is even worth it, and he's
Speaker 2: he's angry that he had to fight to get the
Speaker 2: treatment he got and it's still not working and just
Speaker 2: like that's just yeah, just like in Canada. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like his experience sounds a lot like the hospital experience
Speaker 2: I just had with my dad that exists in our
Speaker 2: current system. But yeah, he's unhappy about it. And part
Speaker 2: of why he's unhappy is that his sister's here, and
Speaker 2: his sister is a sinister member of the new Antifa
Speaker 2: law enforcement agency, the social enforcement Agency. Oh, Harrison, the
Speaker 2: Garrison they shared do and they are literally they're literally
Speaker 2: Antifa mobs that follow people around and harass them if
Speaker 2: they're bad.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to read me. So this is this
Speaker 2: is the description of his sister. Oh for first, Actually,
Speaker 2: there's a line I need to read here about the hospitals.
Speaker 2: Andy wished he could afford private healthcare, but at the
Speaker 2: same time was glad he couldn't. If I made that
Speaker 2: kind of money, it just would have put a target
Speaker 2: on my back. In Numerica, making money was a curse?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Because that's not Actually that doesn't actually make sense. Can
Speaker 2: you buy better healthcare with your money?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 2: Is it a curse? Or is it a curse?
Speaker 3: I forgot about nu America for exec.
Speaker 2: That he will not let you forget, Garrison. You're about
Speaker 2: to get so many different fucking acronyms and shit shoved
Speaker 2: in your face.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm so I'm so thrilled for acronyms. I love
Speaker 4: me some fake three letter agencies.
Speaker 2: Are you all ready for this? Banana anyway, Okay, here's
Speaker 2: here's a description of his sister. The woman wore her
Speaker 2: black shirt with red piping on her collar showing her
Speaker 2: rank and social enforcement. Where the National Security Force NSF
Speaker 2: was a potent arm of the fedgov, social Enforcement was
Speaker 2: a less controlled and thus more dangerous born out of
Speaker 2: the all caps Antifa and BLM mobs during the liberation.
Speaker 2: The act is informal police dispensing social justice as they
Speaker 2: saw fit.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's that's really something special.
Speaker 2: It's't that beautiful.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's amazing. That's really that's really nice. I
Speaker 4: like the caller piping.
Speaker 3: Classy, classy nice.
Speaker 2: It's good to know that we we still have style.
Speaker 2: When the Antifa mobs are made part of the government.
Speaker 3: N SF has like a good a good ring to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's not ye. Dispensing social justice is.
Speaker 3: Just deeply, deeply funny.
Speaker 2: It's it's extremely funny. Her name is Karen, and the
Speaker 2: first thing he notices about her is that she's put
Speaker 2: on weight since the last time he saw her. Because,
Speaker 2: of course, cool insult my eye. Yeah, so they have
Speaker 2: a fight, he says. It's because she and her social
Speaker 2: justice goons got their dad fired from his job quote
Speaker 2: because of the sees. He lost his house, our mom,
Speaker 2: almost everything he had, and his reputation because of the.
Speaker 3: Investigation canceled culture police.
Speaker 2: That's literally what they are. They took his mom from him.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, it's so funny. So she's like, no, he
Speaker 2: was a bad our dad did a bad thing. He
Speaker 2: supported a domestic terrorist group, and he didn't change his
Speaker 2: class curriculum to the standard. The man was a professor
Speaker 2: at Sir Journer Truth you and refused to adhere to
Speaker 2: the rules. So Andy gets angry first because Sojourner Truth
Speaker 2: University is supposed to be Mary Washington University, but all
Speaker 2: of the schools with Washington and the name got purged
Speaker 2: during the Great Reformation.
Speaker 3: Nice and again it's like, actually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sojourner Truth deserves the university more than
Speaker 2: Mary Washington.
Speaker 3: I agree, yeah, but whatever, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That anybody cares that much. Here's him describing what happened
Speaker 2: to his dad. His father had been a respected historian,
Speaker 2: but the NSF had ruined him. Surely Sojourner Truth would
Speaker 2: have been opposed to that. They had sent social enforcement
Speaker 2: teams to follow him everywhere harassing him to the point
Speaker 2: where he couldn't get to his classroom. They broke windows
Speaker 2: at the house, set fire to his car, and relentlessly
Speaker 2: followed him, screaming and shoving to the point where businesses
Speaker 2: wouldn't allow him in. Everything he typed was monitored, screened,
Speaker 2: and often edited. Big Tech monitored every keystroke he made,
Speaker 2: or so he claimed.
Speaker 4: This, this is this is the retribute of justice blueprint.
Speaker 3: This is what we need to get big tech Antifa
Speaker 3: mobs hand in hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big tech working yet like perfectly with the random
Speaker 2: mops of people breaking windows.
Speaker 4: Sitting in keystroke lubs, gangs.
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg just can't wait to partner with an antifa mob.
Speaker 3: He would love this. He would love this definitely.
Speaker 2: This has been his dream since the beginning. Andy's sister
Speaker 2: was part of the Social Enforcers or SE, a part
Speaker 2: of what the FEDGOV called the Great Reformation. Again, he's
Speaker 2: already introduced all these concepts before, and now we're getting
Speaker 2: the info dump on them, which is just is a
Speaker 2: little sloppy. That's what we editor what I called this.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's what we call solid writing. That's called
Speaker 3: the world building.
Speaker 2: Robert the Overview Throw of the government was called the
Speaker 2: liberation by almost everyone out loud. In whispers, however, it
Speaker 2: was called the fall. Karen had consumed the kool aid
Speaker 2: of the riots. Yes, so yeah. He'd gotten fired by
Speaker 2: the school, who didn't even care that he'd done nothing wrong,
Speaker 2: And then came the NSF interrogators. Separate from the se
Speaker 2: They were just as bad, if not worse, because they
Speaker 2: had a fragment of legitimacy the social enforcers lacked. The
Speaker 2: NSF claimed he knew radicals and that he had incriminating
Speaker 2: materials in his possession, materials that were never produced, only alleged.
Speaker 2: They allowed him to be hauled before two people's tribunals
Speaker 2: the kangaroo courts of the SEES, with no evidence, and
Speaker 2: he lost two years of his life, exiled to a
Speaker 2: social quarantine camp, denied his freedoms. He had come back
Speaker 2: from social quarantine a hollow shell of a human being.
Speaker 2: In the end, Karen had done nothing for her father
Speaker 2: other than attempt to persuade him to provide the names
Speaker 2: of his associates. She'd been in social enforcement and could
Speaker 2: have vouched for him, perhaps called off their dogs. Instead,
Speaker 2: she let their father die emotionally now the cancer was
Speaker 2: doing the rest, and Andy reveals that they were the
Speaker 2: terrorist group he was a charge of being a member of.
Speaker 2: Was the Republican Party?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 2: And Karen's like, no, he actually had ties to another
Speaker 2: group called the Sons of Liberty and natural terrorist group
Speaker 2: and he's like, well when it was it become I
Speaker 2: legal to support a cause? Well, Andy, you've just been inconsistent.
Speaker 2: There was your dad just a member of the Republican
Speaker 2: Party or was he a member of this terrorist group?
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's fine anyway. Karen and Andy continue
Speaker 2: to argue. He calls them a bunch of thugs who
Speaker 2: go out to administer you know, uh self described justice
Speaker 2: to innocent people, and Karen says, we don't go after
Speaker 2: innocent people. Innocent people have nothing to fear. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's it's it's it's it's mostly the rest
Speaker 2: of them. There. Argument is there's some good world building
Speaker 2: when we get to the end of this chapter.
Speaker 4: Here this is just like a boomer writing his own
Speaker 4: scary enemy and then getting scared of himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Where Karen saw him as flawed.
Speaker 2: Andy saw him as a man who honored his friends.
Speaker 2: The mention of their mother hid hard. When their father
Speaker 2: had lost his job and was tormented NonStop by the
Speaker 2: social enforcers, she had left him. His mother lived under
Speaker 2: a cloud of fear that she would be attacked while
Speaker 2: stepping out to get groceries. That was part and parcel
Speaker 2: with the tactics of the social enforcement teams. Harassment was
Speaker 2: a weapon in their hands. She moved in with a friend,
Speaker 2: but was unable to get work. Her name was on
Speaker 2: a list because of their father. She took her life
Speaker 2: six months later, never even speaking to Andy's father. He
Speaker 2: had not been released for her funeral. Karen laid the
Speaker 2: blame at their father's feet. So that's their totally realistic
Speaker 2: situation here. Yeah, I found it powerful.
Speaker 3: Very very scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very scary. So that's our opening. And then we
Speaker 2: get to the district. So we're introduced to a new
Speaker 2: CA character, Kaylee Leetram, who I think from reading this
Speaker 2: was former CIA and is now a part of the
Speaker 2: FEDGOV actual law enforcement agency, so not the anarchist mobs,
Speaker 2: but like basically the FBI and the CIA and all
Speaker 2: the other law enforcement groups got amalgamated into a different
Speaker 2: organization that didn't have the name police in it, because
Speaker 2: that's that's scary.
Speaker 3: Now, it's really just the word that we have a
Speaker 3: problem with. Nothing, Yeah, that they do systemically, I'll be
Speaker 3: to be fair, there's definitely like a third of of
Speaker 3: I don't know, the people on the left that I've met,
Speaker 3: that just want to make the police their own police. No,
Speaker 3: that is that is true.
Speaker 2: But you know.
Speaker 4: Another third who just wants the scenario as written here,
Speaker 4: and the other third who yeah, to think of something
Speaker 4: a little bit better than both of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in the reality is that all three of
Speaker 2: those groups together are about two hundred people, like not
Speaker 2: not quite enough to overthrow the White House capital and
Speaker 2: two hundred though, yeah, every one of them on Twitter.
Speaker 2: So there's some great descriptions here. When the boss of
Speaker 2: the National Support Force, which is this law enforcement agency
Speaker 2: comes in, and you really you get a lot about
Speaker 2: the author from how he describes her, because I think
Speaker 2: this is supposed to be AOC. The secretary of the
Speaker 2: National Support Force came into the room, a perky woman,
Speaker 2: probably the same age as Kaylee, in her mid to
Speaker 2: late thirties. The secretary had a quasi hispanic look.
Speaker 3: To she es no, no.
Speaker 2: Hispanic.
Speaker 3: See, how do you write that? And editor would have
Speaker 3: caught that? Editor when I caught that?
Speaker 2: What is what is quasi hispanic? Anyway, he's very Again.
Speaker 2: It's like whenever Ben Shapiro talks about AOC, you can
Speaker 2: just like you can feel the thirsty. Yeah. The secretary
Speaker 2: had spanic look to her, dark skin, pristine, long straight hair,
Speaker 2: and almost perfect makeup. She wore a single gold pip
Speaker 2: on the coldar of her jacket that signaled her rank.
Speaker 2: Other than that, she wore a small black flag pin
Speaker 2: adorned with the white outlined fist and arrow lightning bolts
Speaker 2: stabbing downward. The old flag had long been banned, deemed
Speaker 2: far too racist and prejudice to ever be shown in public.
Speaker 4: Nice nice base BASEA wow.
Speaker 3: I like that. Also, they have like Star Trek uniforms
Speaker 3: with like pimps on them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, that's good moves. It seems like the new government's
Speaker 2: making some solid choices.
Speaker 5: I like that they like add in details that they're like,
Speaker 5: by the way, she's hot, hair, luscious.
Speaker 2: Makeup, almost perfect, almost perfect. She fucked up one bit
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: They're like one eyelash out of place xoxo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird. Yeah, So you know, she gets into some
Speaker 2: sort of bullshit argument with the secretary lady, who is like,
Speaker 2: have you been briefed as to why you were brought here?
Speaker 2: And Kaylee, we can tell is like the bad girl
Speaker 2: who doesn't who you know, doesn't play by the rules
Speaker 2: but gets results. So the secretary asks, have you been
Speaker 2: briefed as to why you were brought here? And Kaylee responds, no,
Speaker 2: I presume it's because somebody fucked something up and you
Speaker 2: need me to unfuck it. Watch your language, Kaylee. Her
Speaker 2: direct supervisor, Burke Dorn said from his seat next to her.
Speaker 2: Doran was the oldest man in the room and had
Speaker 2: been FBI back in the day when they formed the
Speaker 2: National Support Force. The FBI, DHS, state and local law
Speaker 2: enforcement had all been combined. The word police had been
Speaker 2: dropped because it had been deemed defensive and potentially racist.
Speaker 2: And I do love that all of these old FBI
Speaker 2: guys and shit are still cops. They just had to
Speaker 2: call themselves something different.
Speaker 4: No, it shows it is a weird like fundamental misunderstanding
Speaker 4: of like everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very funny that, like, yeah, it is
Speaker 2: basically the same guys. It's just AOC is in charge
Speaker 2: of the CIA. Now finally the leftist evolution has accomplished
Speaker 2: its goal. So they're they're all concerned because the Sons
Speaker 2: of Liberty are back. There's some they had thought that
Speaker 2: they killed all these guys. Kay Lee was like, I
Speaker 2: buried the bodies myself. We took them out. Uh, but
Speaker 2: they're buried the bodies. No, no, no, kay Lee, whose
Speaker 2: who's our our I think our self insert girl character author.
Speaker 2: So we thought, but there have been some recent acts bombing,
Speaker 2: cyber swipes and an assassination or two. We had our
Speaker 2: friends in Silicon Valley crunch it and they say, there's
Speaker 2: a pattern. You think the Sons of Liberty are or
Speaker 2: the s o L are back. The use of the
Speaker 2: acronym was important. The use of a full name gave
Speaker 2: terrorist groups identity, using an acronym to humanize them. They
Speaker 2: weren't people. They were just a thing and needed to
Speaker 2: be dealt with. It was the language of the fedguff
Speaker 2: which made it the language of numerica.
Speaker 3: Well, why wow, there's a lot.
Speaker 4: There's a lot to unpack. I don't know if we
Speaker 4: have mind going on there to unpack that the level
Speaker 4: of dehumanization of three are accurate acronym terrorist groups.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, what about the FBI, Like.
Speaker 3: The FBI is an acrony.
Speaker 2: Say yeah, so if becomes clear that's what's happened, is
Speaker 2: they would you know, when these attacks started, they started
Speaker 2: like following up on any leads who were kind of
Speaker 2: close to some of the Sons of Liberty people that
Speaker 2: they took out. And they saw on like a security
Speaker 2: camera footage next to a car that used to belong
Speaker 2: to someone who's in the Sons of Liberty. They got
Speaker 2: a clear picture of Donald Trump. There's a they think
Speaker 2: there's a there's a fifty three percent chance and their
Speaker 2: facial recognition that it's really him. And Kayley's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, that's not very high and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: take a look, and she's like, I'm confused. He was
Speaker 2: arrested and put in prison. I saw the pre trial motions.
Speaker 2: He died of a heart attack in his cell. Everyone
Speaker 2: saw the body. It was all over the net. Dorn
Speaker 2: diverted his eyes to the conference room table, and the
Speaker 2: Secretary drew a long breath before continuing, what you saw
Speaker 2: was what the country needed closure. Our friends in how
Speaker 2: would help us craft something that would help everyone heal
Speaker 2: he survived, we were unsure. We haven't seen any trace
Speaker 2: of him or his detail since the liberation. We believe
Speaker 2: there was an almost zero chance of him being alive.
Speaker 2: The city was on fire and citizens were roving the streets.
Speaker 2: The Trader President wasn't a quiet man. If he had
Speaker 2: been alive, he would have popped up. We did some
Speaker 2: good cgi with our Hollywood associates and gave the people
Speaker 2: what they wanted. Justice. And then there's an Epstein reference. Jesus, Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, yeah, yeah. We couldn't have him Epstein himself.
Speaker 2: He was dead, which was all we wanted. But now
Speaker 2: it's clear he's not dead, and you can see. I
Speaker 2: think Kaylee is going to turn out to be a
Speaker 2: good character because she's disturbed that they lied about the
Speaker 2: President being dead. I love the idea of Donald Trump
Speaker 2: living in hiding in the undercraft.
Speaker 4: He would hate hanging out with these guys, oh my god,
Speaker 4: because they are not the same class level. Like he
Speaker 4: does not fuck with these people actually, and he is
Speaker 4: not gonna want to hang out with the sons of libert.
Speaker 2: He's able to spend five or six years, completely silent
Speaker 2: in the underground. When the real Trump gets cut off
Speaker 2: of Twitter and creates a new app so that he
Speaker 2: can tweet on the toilets, like the discrepancy between the
Speaker 2: real man and this like cold blooded operator president is
Speaker 2: extremely funny to me. Sure anyway, Kayley's concerned because she's
Speaker 2: used to being able to see through the propaganda and
Speaker 2: she hadn't caught that they lied about this, But now
Speaker 2: she's like, you want me to assassinate the president of
Speaker 2: the United States. He is not the president, not anymore,
Speaker 2: the secretary had raged in her voice. It was understandable.
Speaker 2: She and the President had been sworn enemies years before
Speaker 2: the liberation. On top of that, they've already declared him dead.
Speaker 2: The United States is what we've made it, not what
Speaker 2: he was in charge of. That country is no more.
Speaker 2: He's a war criminal. The man is a monster and abomination.
Speaker 2: What I want is for you to do your job.
Speaker 2: The world thinks him dead, so we need to maintain that.
Speaker 2: Can you do it? And uh yeah? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I need all the money you can give me, and
Speaker 2: I need a team. And she's told that she's gonna
Speaker 2: be She's going to have to fight against the the
Speaker 2: se groups out there, right, So the the remnants of
Speaker 2: the real cops have a conflict with the social enforcement
Speaker 2: cops because they don't actually follow any rules. They're just
Speaker 2: mobs of people who break windows and light your car
Speaker 2: on fire, which is the best word, the best world
Speaker 2: building in this book so far. But apparently AOC is
Speaker 2: in the process of trying to destroy the Social Enforcement Organization.
Speaker 4: It's great because it's, yeah, what if the world was
Speaker 4: full of like there's maybe like twenty anarchists who are
Speaker 4: actually like this, but what if everybody was those twenty people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what if there were enough of them to
Speaker 2: overthrow the government exactly?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then just like keep going afterwards too, they
Speaker 4: just can't stop break a windows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we get a little inside AOC. Is my here.
Speaker 2: Six years ago, I was an outspoken junior congresswoman, a
Speaker 2: radical in my own party. Now I control the most
Speaker 2: powerful agency in the Fed Gov. So yeah, she's she has.
Speaker 2: She pushed through the Restores Civil Liberties Act, which rolled
Speaker 2: all of the different police agencies together. So that's that's fun.
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's like a line about how they had
Speaker 2: to fire a few thousand cops to make this new
Speaker 2: cop agency. That's all the cop agencies, and that's a
Speaker 2: small price to pay for to restore public confidence. Now
Speaker 2: the nu American people can feel a sense of confidence
Speaker 2: in their law enforcement. Even in her own head. It's
Speaker 2: nu America.
Speaker 4: So there's like the real cops and like the cancel
Speaker 4: culture cops, both working independently at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Garrison, that's my understanding.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 2: Now that ends chapter two or chapter one. And now
Speaker 2: at chapter two we start in Alvarado, Texas.
Speaker 3: It was all one chapter.
Speaker 2: That was one chapter, Garrison, a lot of round right,
Speaker 2: he made moves. You know, we're we're almost done with
Speaker 2: this episode. But I want to introduce you to Raoul Lopez,
Speaker 2: who is He's eighteen years old and he's he's trying
Speaker 2: to decide should he join the youth cores.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Most of his fellow high school graduate student line for
Speaker 2: reparation points and stimulus relief rather than the land jobs.
Speaker 2: The TV news said Numerica was prospering, but he never
Speaker 2: saw it. Many businesses had been damaged by the riots
Speaker 2: and closed up forever, and others had simply left their
Speaker 2: buildings gutted for copper wire and plumbing.
Speaker 3: So what's changed. We still have TV news, we still
Speaker 3: have businesses like mm.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's different is that the entire economy seems to be
Speaker 2: based around reparations.
Speaker 4: Reparations and stimulus. Yeah, so we have like universal basic
Speaker 4: income and reparations and nationalized healthcare.
Speaker 2: It's kind of unclear.
Speaker 3: We did it, Joe. And they cancel culture cups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cancel culture mob cups. So he Raoul goes
Speaker 2: into the recruiters eye for the youth core and she's
Speaker 2: like hot. That's the first thing he notices is she's hot.
Speaker 2: She's got a small triangle insignia on her right collar,
Speaker 2: which he says is probably a rank. I think it
Speaker 2: might actually be like the queer triangle, like for concentration
Speaker 2: camp inmates. Because she's about to talk to him about
Speaker 2: the different minority groups he's a part of and how
Speaker 2: many points he'll get from them on his reparations. It's bad.
Speaker 2: It's bad. Garrison so weird. Also, this is a personal
Speaker 2: pet peeve, but he describes the electronic device she's using
Speaker 2: as a digipad, and like, just call it an iPad.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: You wrote this in twenty twenty one. It's set in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. They didn't invent a new set of tablets.
Speaker 2: It just give her an iPad.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's so fine, just say tablet like this
Speaker 3: till it right? Did you?
Speaker 2: Pad?
Speaker 3: Is so pad?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on, man, like we have tablets.
Speaker 2: So Roll was the first person in his family to
Speaker 2: graduate high school, and she his mom, wanted him to
Speaker 2: go to college. Rule had tried to explain to his
Speaker 2: mother that his grades had been low, that jumping straight
Speaker 2: into college was not really an option. The problem was
Speaker 2: that when college had been made free, everyone wanted to go.
Speaker 2: The colleges couldn't handle the massive influx students got in
Speaker 2: based on race, sexual preference, poverty level. Even with Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
Speaker 3: How many dicks have you sucked? He's on the application.
Speaker 2: Paper, Jesus, Oh my god, it's so funny. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Not enough dix for the graduate program.
Speaker 2: Not enough dick. So your grades back, literally, that's what
Speaker 2: he's like, is like, because of all the different things
Speaker 2: that count, your grades actually matter, and my grades aren't
Speaker 2: high enough to get in. And that's like why the
Speaker 2: system's broken. That's so funny, Like it sounds like the
Speaker 2: systems still merit based. Then, yeah, it's very funny. So
Speaker 2: this lady is like, no, you could. You could go
Speaker 2: to college. If you do two years in the Youth Corps.
Speaker 2: You get into any school that you want, right, and
Speaker 2: there's even classes in the evenings to help you prepare
Speaker 2: for school, and those grades can boost your high school
Speaker 2: grades retroactively so you can get into better colleges. It
Speaker 2: actually sounds like the Youth Corp is a great deal.
Speaker 2: Garrisons deal. You get paid, you get freedom and board,
Speaker 2: on the job training, free admission to any college you want.
Speaker 3: That's not a bad deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds great. So he asks does it pay, and
Speaker 2: she tells him we pay off the freedom scale. It
Speaker 2: isn't a lot, but we're providing you room, board and training.
Speaker 2: You'd be ranked by reparation points. You are Hispanic, so
Speaker 2: that would give you some points, but being male will
Speaker 2: hold you back for points based on sex. By any chance,
Speaker 2: are you gay? Transgender are part of an oppressed religion?
Speaker 1: See, I'm fine with them giving CIS men less points.
Speaker 2: To be honest, that's exactly what she says. You'll still
Speaker 2: make more than a privileged white man.
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. You're still on the team, buddy.
Speaker 2: And role asks even if we did the same work.
Speaker 2: Of course, the recruiter said with a smile. The scale
Speaker 2: rates people by their oppressed status. The more oppressed you are,
Speaker 2: the more you're compensated. It's based on the reparations scale
Speaker 2: used for monthly checks. It's all designed to make things fair.
Speaker 4: There's just this is so fox News break like, this
Speaker 4: is so sus Such a high number of people who
Speaker 4: genuinely believe like this is what like the Democrats want
Speaker 4: to do and like like have already done for colleges,
Speaker 4: people who this is already what is happening like this,
Speaker 4: this is DEI.
Speaker 3: This is like.
Speaker 2: It's it's really funny, and it's like he's he's like,
Speaker 2: I don't what prevents somebody from just lying about being
Speaker 2: gay to get more money, But he also doesn't do that,
Speaker 2: which is kind of like suddenly working against the author's point. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I think this is a good place to end for
Speaker 2: now we've seen our vision of the of the terrifying
Speaker 2: antifa utopia. Garrison. I think it's interesting to see this
Speaker 2: actually laid out by somebody who's like a baseline level
Speaker 2: of competent at writing, so you can really actually see
Speaker 2: what they think is going to happen or what they
Speaker 2: think the Democrats want. Fascinating stuff.
Speaker 4: I do wonder what my oppression level would be, like
Speaker 4: how much do I make? I would I would love
Speaker 4: to try to try to quantify this, honestly, but maybe
Speaker 4: that's for another another time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's for another time. Well, Garrison, you know
Speaker 2: what's not for another time?
Speaker 3: The end of this episode.
Speaker 2: That's fine right now? Oh yeah, what do you gotta plug? Garrison?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's probably something can happen here episode on some terrible
Speaker 4: thing that's happened that I put out recently, So go
Speaker 4: check out.
Speaker 3: It could happen here.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we talk about good things too, so you never know.
Speaker 4: It's always it's always a gamble. And then you can
Speaker 4: find me on X the place to go to see
Speaker 4: what's happening at Hungry bo Tie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where Garrison will be whipping up his social
Speaker 2: enforcement mob. I'll try, I'll try.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really uncomfortable hearing you call it X.
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you?
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking about? And everybody
Speaker 1: we did it. It's fucking over. Bye. Behind the Bastards
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